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Title: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 11, 2015, 07:02:35 AM
I see people bickering what is better Monero or Dash

Reality Check.. it doesn't matter.

Your opinions here are worthless guys.
The only people that matter are not here.

What would happen if they come here ?
They would see a loooong trail of abandoned coins..

Dark Coin --> Dash
ByteCoin --> Monero


..and on and on and on and on

You guys seem to think Context is irrelevant and your spouting off on a niche nerd forum matters.
This never ending battle for attention here is pointless.
Unless the general public is coming to read about all these Bash vs. Trollero battles.

Nobody gives a fuck guys ROFL

If you can't step back and see your doing this shit in vain i feel sorry for you..
or your just doing this shit because your a greedy maggot just looking to suck money out of the Altcoin scene.

This sub-forum is just a giant exercise in futility.. and your bickering is all in vain kids.
*IF* any people from the general public come here and read all this.. the very first thing they will see is..
THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS OF SHIT COINS
AND.. a scene made up of nothing at all but greedy little brats that trend hop from 1 shit coin to the next.. to make $$$

"Evan" if you all stopped Shitcoin'ing it want matter the track record and history has been set in stone.

Crypto is dead.. because everyone left long ago.
The guys that left were capable of seeing the bigger picture and cashed out and ran for it.
Those of you still here heavily involved in trading are desperate and suffer from Tunnel Vision. (STUPIDITY)

Sorry but a Nascar paint job for Doge coin that cost $45,000 is not going to cut it anymore.
Neither is giving $10,000 to an Olympic Jamaican Bobsled Team that finished last (and forgot to mention Doge)
Nope.. AUR air dropping coins to Eskimo's in Iceland is not gonna cut it.

They already came and they left long ago.. this shit coin scene is about as dead as it's going to get guys.
But it is amusing watching the same dozen guys hop around shitcoin to shitcoin arguing with each other.
Which NON-Used currency Ponzi / Pyramid scheme TOKEN ..will be used ONE DAY ?
It makes me laugh watching the same fucking idiots argue RIGHT NOW
about which coin MIGHT get used one day as a REAL CURRENCY vs (a handful of shills baited on exchanges by pump groups)

LIEK Om G Fcuking GOdz MOnero was gonna be used By teh world sONE day !!!!111ONE
AN dwhen Idt happenz i will bez riuchers and have much lambos !!!111


...but wait !

I have DAhser coin and it better iwhen Peopel roundz da GLOBE use TEh coisn for TRANAXACTIOSNSS !!!!!

Reality check Kidiots™
..NOBODY is going to use your fucking shit coin as a CURRENCY
EVER !

So that means eventually this will continue to shrink and die and exchanges will close..

And your dumpy gay little shit-coins will die more and more.. while you all keep bickering things are great
and ONE DAY.. people will come and buy my shit coin bag i am clutching !

The toilet was flushed long ago baggies..


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: generalizethis on December 11, 2015, 07:07:05 AM
I see people bickering what is better Monero or Dash etc.

Reality Check.. it doesn't matter.

Your opinions here are worthless guys.
The only people that matter are not here.

What would happen if they come here ?
They would see a loooong trail of abandoned coins..

Dark Coin --> Dash
ByteCoin --> Monero

..and on and on and on and on

You guys seem to think Context is irreverent and your spouting off on a niche nerd forum matters.
This never ending battle for attention here is pointless.
Unless the general public is coming to read about all these Bash vs. Trollero battles.

Nobody gives a fuck guys ROFL

If you can't step back and see your doing this shit in vain i feel sorry for you..
or your just doing this shit because your a greedy maggot just looking to suck money out of the Altcoin scene.

This sub-forum is just a giant exercise in futility.. and your bickering is all in vain kids.
*IF* any people from the general public come here and rad all this.. the very first thing they will see is..
THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS OF SHIT COINS
AND.. a scene made up of nothing at all but greedy little brats that trend hop from 1 shit coin to the next.. to make $$$

Even of you all stopped Shitcoin'ing it want matter the track record and history has been set in stone.

Crypto is dead.. because everyone left long ago.
The guys that left were capable of seeing the bigger picture and cashed out and ran for it.
Those of you still here heavily involved in trading are desperate an suffer from Tunnel Vision.

Sorry but a Nascar paint Job fro Doge coin that cost $45,000 is not going to cut it anymore.
Neither is giving $10,000 to an Olympic Jamaican Bobsled Team that finished last (and forgot to mention Doge)
Nope.. AUR air dropping coins to Eskimo's in Iceland is not gonna cut it.

They already came and they left long ago.. this shit coin scene is about as dead as it's going to get guys.
But it is amusing watching the same dozen guys hop around shitcoin to shitcoin arguing with each other.
Which NON-Used currency Ponzi / Pyramid scheme TOKEN
It makes me laugh watching the same fucking idiots argue RIGHT NOW
about which coin MIGHT get used one day as a REAL CURRENCY vs (a handful of shill baited on exchanges by pump groups)

LIEK Om G Fcuking GOdz MOnero was gonna be used By teh world sONE day !!!!111ONE
AN dwhen Idt happenz i will bez riuchers and have much lambos !!!111

...but wait !

I have DAhser coin and it better iwhen Peopel roundz da GLOBE use TEh coisn for TRANAXACTIOSNSS !!!!!

Reality check Kidiots™ ..NOBODY is going to use your fucking shit coin as a CURRENCY EVER !
So that means eventually this will continue to shrink and die and exchanges will close..
And your dump gay coins will die more and more.. while you all keep bickering things are great
and ONE DAY.. people will come and buy my shit coin gab i am clutching !

The toilet was flushed long ago baggies..

If crypto is dead, why are you here? You don't see anyone outside the Lincoln memorial holding a "Abe is dead" sign.

Also, dark is dash and monero is a fork of bytecoin, so your illustrative point is off. I know you aren't good with details, but you can at least try.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 11, 2015, 07:26:50 AM
The history details of Monero etc or why i am here is irrelevant to the topic.

EDIT:
By the way didn't i already ask you to stop pointlessly quoting me champ ?

And i already know what you're gonna say many moves in advance..
"Why am i here ?"
..if the scene is dead ?
Well i will repeat ..the scene is as dead as it's going to get.

EDIT2:
And i ACTUALLY care about noobs coming here getting sucked in by your bullhshit antics Shill's
NONE of you will accept a shred of responsibility if some noob loses his money investing in this crap.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: anon_giraffe on December 11, 2015, 09:34:13 AM
when opinions get too big for their boots, people pretend they're facts.

but full of lols.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 11, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
when opinions get too big for their boots, people pretend they're facts.

but full of lols.

I don't know which one of you ran and made the NOOB account but ..i''ll eat, it's breakfast time.

Am i suppose to give 2 fucks what some noob thinks when i have been doing this for years ?

You speak in riddles.. bad riddles.

Let's break down the mensa genius logic here..
I have a strong opinion there for i am wrong on all accounts.. case closed ?

Guess what ? This is a FORUM ..it's what they are for.. POSTING YOUR OPINIONS.

Further more you could have addressed any single point i made but instead
you chose to try and have a jab at me to put me down personally.
I wouldn't be surprised generalizethis quickly ran and made a new account after i handed his ass to him again.

There is no replies here because you are all pussies & know i am right !
Deal with it.. I am ALWAYS right.. i AM Spoetnik !
My next tattoo will be across my chest saying, "I Told You So !"

oh well nub's just go back to Shill'ing Shitcoins for peanuts.. nom nom nom cheap coins  ::)

PS:
That was a tasty snack but i usually eat more noobs before breakfast !
Keep 'em coming fresh noobs NOM NOM NOM NOM ;)


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: TPTB_need_war on December 11, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
The only people that matter are not here.

What would happen if they come here ?

They (the billions of users of currency) won't be coming to this forum en masse. That is an objective assertion. Subjectively I assert I will be bringing my coin to them. Observe a demonstration of marketing skills. Thus I disagree with your prognosis of only shitcoins coming from this forum. (refuting your subjective assertion on that is probably my motivation for posting in this thread)

I agree that the bickering here is pointless. All we can gain here in this forum is information, not users. Your thread may be contributing to the bickering.

Bickering is not informational. Pursuit of information is based in a desire to agree on the truth. If a truth can't be agreed upon (after sufficient study and discussion), then the topic is not objective so it is not informational. Jumping too fast to politics or subjective interests is the bane of truth. None of us are perfect in the pursuit of truth. Thus we try to find some balance with a high signal/noise ratio. Do Spoetnik's threads have a high S/N? That discussion might be subjective and lead to more bickering.

My point is I shouldn't have posted in this thread.  :P


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: generalizethis on December 11, 2015, 04:07:19 PM
when opinions get too big for their boots, people pretend they're facts.

but full of lols.

I don't know which one of you ran and made the NOOB account but ..i''ll eat, it's breakfast time.

Am i suppose to give 2 fucks what some noob thinks when i have been doing this for years ?

You speak in riddles.. bad riddles.

Let's break down the mensa genius logic here..
I have a strong opinion there for i am wrong on all accounts.. case closed ?

Guess what ? This is a FORUM ..it's what they are for.. POSTING YOUR OPINIONS.

Further more you could have addressed any single point i made but instead
you chose to try and have a jab at me to put me down personally.
I wouldn't be surprised generalizethis quickly ran and made a new account after i handed his ass to him again.

There is no replies here because you are all pussies & know i am right !
Deal with it.. I am ALWAYS right.. i AM Spoetnik !
My next tattoo will be across my chest saying, "I Told You So !"

oh well nub's just go back to Shill'ing Shitcoins for peanuts.. nom nom nom cheap coins  ::)

PS:
That was a tasty snack but i usually eat more noobs before breakfast !
Keep 'em coming fresh noobs NOM NOM NOM NOM ;)

I certainly did not make an account to avoid you (I have a job and can only babysit you in a free moment). Most people aren't replying because there is no point--you'll just declare yourself victor or change the subject or offer no evidence to support your position or cry about how everyone is unfairly labeling you. You're a drama queen with no forum standing who pretends to be looking out for noobs, but then brags about bullying them. Keep on winning in your head, maybe someday it will be reality.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 11, 2015, 06:18:06 PM
Show me one single guy that thinks Monero or Dash or any of these Altcoins
will be used by the public on a large scale.. EVER.

I wouldn't hold your breath guys..

They are not coming here and you are not taking your shit coin to them either.
Because "they" gove 0 shits.

I have said and many others that if a Bitcoin killer came along we would all know it.
Desperately trying to claim Monero etc is the true BTC killer is a joke.
an unfunny joke because a lot of people lose money in the process..
thanks to delusional fanboyism by desperate bag holders.

I think the smart ones are the guys who came simply to make money from all this.
They know this crap ain't going anywhere
I feel sorry for the wide eyed gullible kids who can't face facts.. this shit is dead and going nowhere.

You all never learned that circle jerking each other with the shit coin dance here amounts to..
nothing but a shrinking user base, shrinking market caps abandoned coins and user base loss.
And if you can't see that your are all either blind & delusional and / or dishonest.
Yes i say "ALL" of you because the smart investors never came or left long ago..
The only ones left are dumb or greedy. (or both)

You know you guys got a lot of audacity sitting here beating off your little peckers to Monero etc.
proclaiming it shit hot.. on a site that had thousands of coins and hundreds of scams.
AKA: a crystal clear pattern of pump & dump activity as hoards of greedy idiots jump from shit coin to shit coin
while calling them a currency (even though none are used as one)
With a track record like that in the scene you guys got a LOT of balls claiming ..oh we're different *this* time  ::)

ALL OF YOU FAIL AT CONTEXT = this topic !

Open your eyes and wake the fuck up guys.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: whizz94 on December 11, 2015, 06:24:52 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath guys..

I recognise this guy's account from one of the few other threads which I'd looked at.
Either he's very busy talking down the prospects of bitcoin, or he's an instance of ./autotrolomatic running on the master control computer at the central bank of nastiness.  Why would anyone bother with doing that?


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: TPTB_need_war on December 11, 2015, 06:30:54 PM
Show me one single guy that thinks ... any of these Altcoins
will be used by the public on a large scale.. EVER.

Me. And I have bet $100,000+ of my time, effort, and money (and even my brain health) on this gambit.

Would you like to bet against me?


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 11, 2015, 11:57:19 PM
Feel free to address the topic or any statement i made related to it.. "Context"
You guys love to bob and weave about it.
I always feel like i am trying to force a puppy to look at the shit on the floor
as it keeps turning it's head away..

All i ever hear is.. but, but, but.. Monero etc is great
uhh guys that is irrelevant and definitely overstated, dramatized and often deceitful / fraudulent.

There is no other way to put it than you guys are dumb.. sorry i wish there was a nicer way to say it.

Combine the Context and your sad ass hopes and dreams for what ever fucking shit coin you all bag holding now.

You all bend over backwards pretending the Context of the entire situation has no relevance.
Monero is immune to the other coins and their dark histories here.
Even though there is clear links to them..

Anyone with half a brain can see what i see.
It's not like i am cooking up some crazy conspiracy here guys.

The Altcoin scene is a nasty ugly scammy mess right ?
Well so is your shit coin your flogging guys.
There is little difference they come from the same code bases, same dev's cloners..
the same exchanges.. the same fanboys.. the same forum where they are all posted at !

You can't come here and make some shit coin then cry mine is different.
and then have the gall to expect us all to assume your different when 100% of the previous coins were a pump / dump failure.

I also don't care if you guys want to pull the long con with your ponzi token.
Just because you invest money in something and push it down peoples throats for years on end does not make it good.
All of you pushing Monero etc pushed other coins even though a few of you lie about it.
Many of you DO admit it though.
New users coming here won't know these guys have simply hopped from coin to coin.
To make a profit at the expense of previous noob's.
They deserve to know about the hanger on'ers.. the last dregs of desperate bag holders in a dying Altcoin scene.

New guys out there.. listen to me.
By all means do your own homework.. don't take my word for it.
If you looked at my history around here you can see i care about the new people who show up here.
I don't prey on them like most guys here do.
And new guys you will see a never ending cycle of pumped up / hyped coins then ..dumped.
And the ones that suffer and lose money are the ones that are suckered into holding long term.
Because the other guys dump on the noobs and run off before the noobs know what hit them !
It's unusual you will ever see dev proclaim he is dropping the coin. and the fans too !
They will be quick to tell you to buy and quiet while they are dumping on you.
The patterns are all in the stats and graphs on exchanges.

Who are going to trust a guy trying to tell the truth with no financial motivation.
Or the guy who just commented before me telling us all he his stuck with $100,000.00 in Altcoins.
What do think he's going to say ? It has no future ? The coin is doomed ?
He can never break even unless he gets enough people here to buy his bag he is clutching !

Beware the Context of all this !


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: iFUD4BTC on December 12, 2015, 12:06:26 AM
dont bother with anything coming out of this fucking moronic troll.

look at his trust history.
look at his post history.

he is nothing but worthless, butthurt troll who has no life and spends his days trolling these altcoin forums.

loser.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 12, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
@iFUD4BTC

1 month earlier you popped up Trolling me randomly.. with THREATS !

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take a minute and look at this history of the retard who started this thread...he's nothing but a worthless altcoin troll with no life.  that is fact.  how could anyone have such a sad fucking life they spend their entire existence on this forum looking for friends?

spoetnik, you are by far the most pathetic piece of fucking trash on this forum.  some day i hope you come to your senses and end the misery.

and how does my Cryptsy info keep ending up here with people trolling me and threatening with violence and extortion ?

answer ?

BTW you fucking piece of shit, if you continue to use the word "faggot" I will ensure that information in your DOX will be put to good use.

this is 2015 you ignorant, mother fucking piece of trailer trash.

So ..people.
He already is butthurt about something i must have said before, which is why he threatened me above.
He also failed to address any point i made here.
He is also a hypocrite i see looking at his Trust Rating.

AND.. i can see by his name and comment history this guy created an account to TROLL.
By all means look at this guys post history.. it's far worse than mine LOL
He been running around i just found out bad mouthing me on random topics such as this..


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HAHAHA you guys got scammed worse than ARCH

pathetic attempt at whatever it was you tried to create, nazi.

lol bobsurplus aint tired of making new accounts to fud thats good to know.

if you think i'm bob youre as fucking ignorant as spoetnik

Hell he even strated a topic to Troll me calling me a troll ROFL
Other / Meta / Re: What made Spoetnik such a troll?


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so glad i started this thread.  look at this pathetic moron trying to justify its pathetic life (yes trolling here is its life).
[/quote]


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 10:19:31 AM
there used to be a time when i let myself be influenced by someone's "trust" score,
i have wised up since then. Trust score can not be trusted in this forum, that much is clear.

I also think people should stop using very big black letters as its giving me a headache.......

https://i.imgur.com/JZn0ofM.jpg


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 12, 2015, 10:48:48 AM
I fixed the quote mistake i made on my last comment.
The last part was showing how that disposable Troll account
created a topic dedicated to me.. to Troll on me calling me a Troll.
Yes that is the definition of hypocrisy LOL

And yeah the Trust rating is used as a weapon.
It's an attack tool used by people here to get back at you for not liking their shit coin.

See how many legit replies i got here ?
I am right none of you want a piece hahahha
Noone is going to debate it.. they know i am right but can't admit it.
They just hope & pray i wander off..

So they can fuck over the next batch of noobs for their cash !

The only thing people care about here is.. FIAT
Rather amusing considering it's all about Bitcoin or Altcoins now isn't it hahahha

Take Monero for example.. They have bent over backwards to *try* and attract us crypto nerds to get on-board.
We are targeted !
Why ?
Because we will go to an exchange and buy their coins in exchange for Bitcoin.
It's not like they are lifting a finger trying to get the average Joe Six Pack out there to get involved.
Actions speak louder than words.
Market value vs bitcoin value is all that matters and pandering to Traders here is all that matters.
Getting real world adoption of their "currency" is a token half ass effort to make it look good.
I don't want the new guys who show up here after Google searching Bitcoin etc to be bullshitted by these con artists.

If people want to join the Altcoin scene and try and make some money at it then fine.. i have no problem with that.
But these are essentially Pyramid scheme / Ponzi Scheme Digital Tokens that will never actually be used by
the real world as a currency ever .. anywhere !
Why would i say such a thing ?
Simply by watching the process of how this all works over the years..
No previous coin could be dumped on others.. UNLESS
There was guys to dump on..
So WHO is it that gets dumped on ?
The gullible and naive who believe in XYZ coin and plan on saving their ponzi tokens long term.
They get caught holding the bag time after time..
Mean while the same crew of sleazy douches had already moved on to the next con job..
Where they start all over again proclaiming.. THIS time we mean it .. honest !
THIS TIME .. THIS coin is the ONE !
Then they go on about how it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.. then later quietly dump the shit out of it..
all over again.. round & round we go.

http://time.com/money/139817/lured-into-cloak-and-dagger-investment-pitches/
I just seen that Google searching "Cloak Retirement Savings Plan"
Wrong thing but makes a good point..
What i was looking for is the group of Shills who babbled on about a Cloak coin "Retirement Savings Plan"
They also went on about "Merch" on their long dead IRC.
HOW is Cloak doing boys ?

Hmmm who else has "Merch" ? cough cough Monero ROFL

You new guys think the bad guy has a tattoo on his face saying I'm an evil scammer ?
Nope.. we have pretty boy's spamming the living shit out of Polo chat about HYP 24/7 for ages !
Bragging about making 5 grand usd then .. then what ?
Exactly !
NOTHING !
Gone.. silence.
Where did he go ?
he made off with 5k and where did it come from ? Take a wild fucking guess ?
And what did that 5k go towards ?
Hmm i don't suppose it went towards a "Monero Marketing Company" by chance ? ROFL
What did i just say about the vicious predatory cycle of pump / dump ?

Same guys.. same coins.. same scammers.. same old sleazy bullshit.

all for the mighty US DOLLAR ! $ $ $


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 12, 2015, 03:12:37 PM
Show me one single guy that thinks Monero or Dash or any of these Altcoins
will be used by the public on a large scale.. EVER.

I wouldn't hold your breath guys..

They are not coming here and you are not taking your shit coin to them either.
Because "they" gove 0 shits.

I agree with this, but there is only 1 newcomer i have seen besides bitcoin being pretty succesfull in reaching the public at the moment which is GetGems, numbers dont lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1264888.0 At a time where every other alts public reach is pretty much unseen, this is impressive.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 12, 2015, 09:01:52 PM
Show me one single guy that thinks Monero or Dash or any of these Altcoins
will be used by the public on a large scale.. EVER.

I wouldn't hold your breath guys..

They are not coming here and you are not taking your shit coin to them either.
Because "they" gove 0 shits.

I agree with this, but there is only 1 newcomer i have seen besides bitcoin being pretty succesfull in reaching the public at the moment which is GetGems, numbers dont lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1264888.0 At a time where every other alts public reach is pretty much unseen, this is impressive.

That may be a step up but i would not call that adoption.
It's still the underground tech nerd guys.
Is my Grandparents ever going to be involved in any way with GetGems / Gems ?
Or any 1 single person in my whole family or any friend i ever had in my life ?
Fuck no.

I and others have said a lot if a genuine contender for Bitcoin comes along we'd know it right away.

Take Prime Coin / XPM for example..
It had a revolutionary angle to it's design and took off like wild fire and no one disputed it's reasons for popularity.
And that would be Scientific application.. calculating Prime numbers.

It's about reality guys ..not Trolling or crying FUD.

If noobs came and said what coins would i say had some value ? XPM would come to mind..
and maybe some others like Gridcoin / GRC
But they (as i said earlier) got big / popular then got dumped to death by the hoards of greedy deceitful investors.
Which decimates the coins potential.. stepping in reverse !
The guys in the scene join in then suck money out of it then leave it for dead when they get bored.
Prime Coin -HAD- an exclusive market on Cryptsy long ago like BTC.
NOW ? gone / dead.
Go to Poloniex and what do we see ? a Monero market ROFL

Sorry guys but doing this stuff and doing all this with some level of honesty is what matters.
No investor who bought 100 grand in shit coins is going to tell you the prospects are 50/50 of ever amounting to anything.
Nope.. he's gonna feed you Bullshit galore to get you to buy his shit coin..
Because guys really do dump coins.. this is not a fantasy made up by "Trolls" LOL
All you have to do is look at the numbers + Exchange market prices to see it.
It's all right there in front of your nose.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 13, 2015, 01:38:12 AM
Show me one single guy that thinks Monero or Dash or any of these Altcoins
will be used by the public on a large scale.. EVER.

I wouldn't hold your breath guys..

They are not coming here and you are not taking your shit coin to them either.
Because "they" gove 0 shits.

I agree with this, but there is only 1 newcomer i have seen besides bitcoin being pretty succesfull in reaching the public at the moment which is GetGems, numbers dont lie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1264888.0 At a time where every other alts public reach is pretty much unseen, this is impressive.

That may be a step up but i would not call that adoption.
It's still the underground tech nerd guys.
Is my Grandparents ever going to be involved in any way with GetGems / Gems ?
Or any 1 single person in my whole family or any friend i ever had in my life ?

This is not true at all, many new users use it already. Even users that dont know much about bitcoin even, do you think thousands of new users in couple days are all tech nerds? Just look at the commenbts on the play store, u can see majority is the average user. Lets be honest gg has the fastest adoption rate right now and its just 15 months old. Grandparents will be the latest adopters to Crypto technology, i dont think they activly use bitcoin either.




Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 13, 2015, 05:41:19 AM
I think that adoption is largely faked.
Average guys on the play store who run across that app would have no clue what it its or bother with it.
I think any feedback on it would be highly manipulated by crypto nerds.
as a deceitful trap of course.

by the way what stores can you buy something directly with on that app ?
and no i don't want to hear anything about those services like Snapcard for altcoins LOL


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 13, 2015, 02:00:13 PM
I think that adoption is largely faked.
Average guys on the play store who run across that app would have no clue what it its or bother with it.
I think any feedback on it would be highly manipulated by crypto nerds.
as a deceitful trap of course.

by the way what stores can you buy something directly with on that app ?
and no i don't want to hear anything about those services like Snapcard for altcoins LOL

Sometimes its better to man up and admit a legit progress instead of blindly assuming things for your own benefit. On oct 24 i remember it was #2 in the US App Store when searching for Telegram and growth has been organic. People are actually familiar with it cus its an instant messenger combined with crypto technology, now for crypto nerds instant messaging might not be interesting but we are talking billions of im users. It has a reward value model interesting enough to encourage activity and inviting friends. Tokens have already a usecase where u can buy giftcards in app, but the real usecase will be the attention economy where users get to paid directly for ads instead of the gatekeepers like fb or google. Tokens are for gamification and growing the network and will be mainly used inside the app by 100+k users in the near future. Just look at it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app&hl=en even a teen understand it, the incentive and on boarding process is easier than any other coin because the app has much less friction and is not aimed towards crypto nerds. But i forgot this is bct.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: TPTB_need_war on December 13, 2015, 02:03:46 PM
I think that adoption is largely faked.
Average guys on the play store who run across that app would have no clue what it its or bother with it.
I think any feedback on it would be highly manipulated by crypto nerds.
as a deceitful trap of course.

by the way what stores can you buy something directly with on that app ?
and no i don't want to hear anything about those services like Snapcard for altcoins LOL

Sometimes its better to man up and admit a legit progress instead of blindly assuming things for your own benefit. On oct 24 i remember it was #2 in the US App Store when searching for Telegram and growth has been organic. People are actually familiar with it cus its an instant messenger combined with crypto technology, it has a reward value model inetresting enough encouraging activity and inviting friends. Tokens have already a usecase where u can buy giftcards in app, but the real usecase will be the attention economy where users get to paid directly for ads instead of the gatekeepers like fb or google. Tokens are for gamification and growing the network and will be mainly used inside the app by 100+k users in the near future.  Just look at it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app&hl=en even a teen understand it, the incentive and on boarding process is easier than any other coin because the app has much less friction and is not aimed towards crypto nerds. But i forgot this is bct.

Yes appears GetGems is attempting to do what I had proposed to do, but they are going about it in a different way than my marketing plan. They are trying to scale up from instant message to wide spread token usage. So far they are kicking my butt, because they have a product released and are gaining adoption and all I have is words.

Yet still I think I will beat them easily primarily because I think their scaling strategy is slower and flawed. We will soon see...


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 13, 2015, 05:53:11 PM
gimme a break.. man up ?

this is BCT ?

ya no shit..

You guys are fucking delusional.

I expect nothing different than the same old idiocy..
i also asked what store directly takes getgems or gems or what ever the fuck it's called.
you dodged me and went on parade proclaiming you ranked high for a keyword on the play store.

you have no one to blame but yourself for jumping on my topic and spouting off about
how gems is different than all the other guys.. because you have an Android APP
that is ranked on the Google play store when searching for a weird ass obscure keyword.
What was it telegram ?
Ya i'm sure the masses are all over that ROFL

Keep trying guys.

Why do i waste my time ?
Not for the idiots who are blind.. but the new guys who be suckered in by the shenanigans.

You forgot to mention the contest didn't you buddy ?
Think i forgot ? ;)

Your fake adoption is a joke.
And yup.. you still fail to see the Context.

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But i forgot this is bct.

Oh you said that so i guess you didn't forget WHERE YOU ARE LOL

New guys look at the track record of what goes on around the altcoin scene.
Why would some so called "coin" #7,001 be any different ?
Anon features ? and Android Wallet ? What ?

Don't be low hanging fruit and fall for these con men.
They are here pushing their "coin" for one reason.. $$$


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: TPTB_need_war on December 13, 2015, 07:09:39 PM
Spoetnik, I haven't been following GetGems closely. Could you please educate me on the claim that the adoption is fake? I need solid arguments and if possible irrefutable evidence of such claims. I don't have free time to go digging searching for forums posts which have detailed such allegations. Can you summarize and point me to relevant posts?


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 13, 2015, 07:45:23 PM
Spoetnik show evidence its fake or stfu.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 13, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Spoetnik show evidence its fake or stfu.

I don't have to..

This is my topic and it's about Context.. not GetGems Android App and it's grandiose claims.
Further more i already dealt with you on the GetGems topic you are scared to bump ROFL

Feel free to discuss the topic.. or -YOU- shut the fuck up hahahha


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 13, 2015, 08:17:40 PM
Spoetnik show evidence its fake or stfu.
I don't have to..

hahaha ur full of shit, gg has currently the fastest adoption rate of all alts..deal with it.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: hughbt on December 13, 2015, 09:09:05 PM
You have some valid points. If someone thinks that those scamcoins will become the #1, widely used and accepted currency - they are delusional. It's all about p&d. But it doesn't mean that altcoin scene is a worthless shithole. A lot of valuable improvements and new technologies were developed here. Maybe few of those coins will find their niche.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 01:17:46 AM
You have some valid points. If someone thinks that those scamcoins will become the #1, widely used and accepted currency - they are delusional. It's all about p&d. But it doesn't mean that altcoin scene is a worthless shithole. A lot of valuable improvements and new technologies were developed here. Maybe few of those coins will find their niche.

it is a worthless shithole and you all know it.

niche ?
like what ?
Marijuana Coins ?
Anon gimmick coins ?
Country Coins ?

who is claiming they will find a "niche" ?

sorry but niche crypto-currency ?  ::)

It's real simple.. If it's not used as a currency then it's not a currency /the end.

How many victims you lure into a Ponzi scheme does not make it a successful currency LOL


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: hughbt on December 14, 2015, 09:40:44 AM

It's real simple.. If it's not used as a currency then it's not a currency /the end.


Yuuup, but firstly You should learn how to read understandingly. Who is claiming it has to be used as a means of payment(I believe that's what you meant)?

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How many victims you lure into a Ponzi scheme does not make it a successful currency LOL

What do you think about central bank fiat ponzi schemes and what the term "successful currency" means? I recommend you to learn about the distinction between currency and money. Maybe then you'll send me a reply which actually makes sense.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 02:10:57 PM

It's real simple.. If it's not used as a currency then it's not a currency /the end.


Yuuup, but firstly You should learn how to read understandingly. Who is claiming it has to be used as a means of payment(I believe that's what you meant)?

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How many victims you lure into a Ponzi scheme does not make it a successful currency LOL

What do you think about central bank fiat ponzi schemes and what the term "successful currency" means? I recommend you to learn about the distinction between currency and money. Maybe then you'll send me a reply which actually makes sense.


That is a crock of shit !

Currency / money is interchangable to the real world.
If you asked anyone on Earth what the difference is they would stare at you for a while then shrug their shoulders.
So nice try, trying to lure me into a little game of bickering about semantics.
AKA: Tunnel vision.
AKA: Avoid the topic "context"
You want to play a game of words with me ?
What do think i meant by context ?
I'll save you the trouble of guessing ;)
..the bigger picture here in the global altcoin scene / communities.


a shitty little android app for some unused shitcoin does nothing to alter the context of Altcoins.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: hughbt on December 14, 2015, 03:07:08 PM
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If you asked anyone on Earth what the difference is they woudl stare at you for a while then shrug their shoulders.

That's the answer for your question about context of altcoins(ok, maybe not altcoins but cryptos in general). I have mine context, you have yours. And there is no need to be nasty. I'm using it to earn some money. Someone else is using it as a source for new technology, some use it to scam people and others are falling for it. I can create an app or start my own coin and that's great. I have a freedom of choice and I don't care what people are thinking about it. To sum up, there is a lot of groups of people here and outside, but - as you admitted - most of them(including you :( ) doesn't even know they already are a part of worldwide ponzi-scheme(sic!). That's the tunnel vision. Do you even know what's the inflation rate in your country, or who has the power to issue money?
However, I understand your point of view, but as I said before there is no need to be nasty because no one will take it seriously.

That's basically all I wanted to say, take care.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 03:22:13 PM
I don't care who takes me seriously *around here.
You people have dog shit for opinions.

You just finished trying to shoe horn in a debate on what constitutes a currency.
I seen your game a mile away.

You seen what i said and the only retort you could up with
was a half ass stab at redefining what currency means.

FAIL.

It's cute you think everyone here is too stupid to see it too.

Why do you think Crypto died off ?
People come and see dumb shit roll out of bag holders mouths.. then leave.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: hughbt on December 14, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
I'm not redefining or trying to avoid anything. Just take a book(not wiki, that's for lazy ass people) and learn by yourself. You want me to give you a lecture? Are you 15? Give me some legit arguments and prove that you know what you're talking about and I'm not. What constitues a currency? Why the altcoins are not currencies? You have to know what the currency is to answer those questions. I'm saying one thing and you are the other, not related to what I said. I asked you few simple questions about the economy and you were unable to answer.  :-\ Sorry, it seems like you can spot a little dog shit in your backyard but you can't spot that your whole face is covered in it too.  :-\

Besides - if you don't care if someone takes you seriously, why are you posting here? Another example of your flawed logic.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 04:15:35 PM
There is no flaw in any of my logic.
Feel free to point it out specifically though.
You are playing games with me .. and not winning.

People if you want to do the Altcoin thing fine.
if you want to try and make money.. fine.

I have only ever asked you all to please consider the bigger picture.
Will our actions be good for Crypto ?
Does my supporting a shit-coin when no one is looking do harm overall ?

And my long running theme is recognizing and accepting HOW THINGS ARE.
And if after that people want to get involved etc then go for it.
At least then i feel better people have the info to make an informed decision.

That has been my stance for my entire time since i started doing this stuff.

It's not about Altcoins can't amount to anything ever.. it's just that it's highly unlikely. (with the coins we got now)
Many guys come here still to see if the Bitcoin killer has been posted..
So far.. NO.
But there is sure a lot of deceitful, game playing, Trolling, brat, bag-holders trying to make it seem like Monero etc is.

This whole "one day" routine is a crock of shit too.
You want to make money in altcoins now then go ahead..
but don't expect us all to be fooled by anon features or android wallets or other misc gimmick / antics etc..

What "IS" will not be debated.. it's there in front of your nose.
So all you guys here have left is .."one day"
So i have said WHY then ?
And i have gotten no good answer WHY a huge crowd is going to come running to Altcoins. *Again.

So newer users should be given a fair and honest take on the context on things.
Free of bag holder propaganda who just want your money.

The truth is what sets Crypto free guys.
THAT is what will improve the situation.
It continues to drown for a reason.

Like a 12 step crypto-rehab program.. the first step here is admitting there is a problem (that needs to be fixed)
THEN and ONLY then will we *maybe see a huge crowd coming .. way later.
It's all rooted in one simple thing.. Honesty + Reality.

So no buddy redefining what currency means will not change the context on this stuff sorry LOL


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: hughbt on December 14, 2015, 04:17:44 PM
...and go learn about the average lifetime of national currencies, Bretton Woods etc. There was no currency in the history, which would hold it's value with the passing time(that's why it's called currency). So the cryptos are no exception at the moment. We are in the ponzi scheme anyway, so there is no need to whine and complain about the alts. Alts are working like a laboratory for cryptocurrencies, so they are doing their job.

This basically should end the discussion here.

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And i have gotten no good answer WHY a huge crowd is going to come running to Altcoins.

And I agreed, that there is a lot of pumping, hyping, scamming etc. And it does a harm. There will be no huge crowd, but there are few alts with interesting techs which could find their use in the real life(not as money). As you can see scams etc. it's not only the problem of alts. People are scamming, govts are scamming. If you look at alts as a big research lab,  they are doing their job well.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 04:33:11 PM
...and go learn about the average lifetime of national currencies, Bretton Woods etc. There was no currency in the history, which would hold it's value with the passing time. So the cryptos are no exception at the moment. We are in the ponzi scheme anyway, so there is no need to whine and complain about the alts. Alts are working like a laboratory for cryptocurrencies, so they are doing their job.

This basically should end the discussion here.

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And i have gotten no good answer WHY a huge crowd is going to come running to Altcoins.

And I agreed, that there is a lot of pumping, hyping, scamming etc. And it does a harm. There will be no huge crowd, but there are few alts with interesting techs which could find their use in the real life(not as money). As you can see scams etc. it's not only the problem of alts. People are scamming, govts are scamming. If you look at alts as a big research lab,  they are doing their job well.

Notice how every previous "coins" were pumped and dumped & left for dead ?
These guys simply ignore the history / context and push on with another "coin"
And over time they have juggled buzz-words..
When IPO became the go to word i bashed it.. they all switched to ICO ..i bashed it.
They switched to Angel investing.. i bashed it.. they Switched to crowd funding.. i bashed it.
They seen me mocking them for using the word "coin" when i called them ponzi-tokens.
look around today's new gimmicky catch phrase is "block-chains"

They bob & weave and push scams.. they my keep changing their promises of the future.
But, one thing that does not change is the inevitable outcome.
Ponzi token #7,002 and a hyped up pumped & dumped left for dead shit coin / token.
Nothing ever changes !

So go ahead boys & girls feel free to tell everyone around the world why "THIS TIME" it's different.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: generalizethis on December 14, 2015, 04:46:34 PM

They bob & weave and push scams.. they my keep changing their promises of the future.
But, one thing that does not change is the inevitable outcome.
Ponzi token #7,002 and a hyped up pumped & dumped left for dead shit coin / token.
Nothing ever changes !

So go ahead boys & girls feel free to tell everyone around the world why "THIS TIME" it's different.

Does your inevitable dying prevent you from accomplishing anything? Just as every fiat currency dies, so will every cryptocurrency. The question is "does the coin do what it says it can do?" Just pointing at them all and saying "scam" is the equivalent of me pointing to every person i see and saying "pointless."

We judge things on what they set out to do, not on the eventuality of their demise. So if a coin sets out to fill a niche and does it, I would have a hard time calling it a scam. While a coin that simply claims to fill a niche without actually filling it is what most would call a scam.

Any problems with that definition of a scam versus a legitimate project?


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: hughbt on December 14, 2015, 04:47:34 PM
Those IPO's and ICO's are ridiculous. :D Do you hold any altcoins, you think there are any worth buying/following? I'm just curious.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: onemorexmr on December 14, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
I don't care who takes me seriously *around here.


well i am interested if someone does... so i created a poll https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289193.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289193.new#new)

i tried to ask the question non biased. if you want it rephrased just tell me...


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
I don't care who takes me seriously *around here.


well i am interested if someone does... so i created a poll https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289193.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289193.new#new)

i tried to ask the question non biased. if you want it rephrased just tell me...

You could have just bumped one of the many polls on me that already exist (or topics)

Guys if i see "it" others out there will too..
They will come here and see what i see.
So Spoetnik is not the problem.. YOU guys are !

I run my mouth to get you guys thinking.. not of a better ponzi
but of dealing with the outside worlds view on this stuff.
The world really couldn't care less if you all want to circle jerk each other with ponzi delusion fantasies.
They simply ignore us and keep their Fiat in their wallets.


Title: Re: [FACTS] Context - An Outsiders View
Post by: anon_giraffe on December 15, 2015, 11:44:13 AM
when opinions get too big for their boots, people pretend they're facts.

but full of lols.

I don't know which one of you ran and made the NOOB account but ..i''ll eat, it's breakfast time.

Am i suppose to give 2 fucks what some noob thinks when i have been doing this for years ?

You speak in riddles.. bad riddles.

Let's break down the mensa genius logic here..
I have a strong opinion there for i am wrong on all accounts.. case closed ?

Guess what ? This is a FORUM ..it's what they are for.. POSTING YOUR OPINIONS.

Further more you could have addressed any single point i made but instead
you chose to try and have a jab at me to put me down personally.
I wouldn't be surprised generalizethis quickly ran and made a new account after i handed his ass to him again.

There is no replies here because you are all pussies & know i am right !
Deal with it.. I am ALWAYS right.. i AM Spoetnik !
My next tattoo will be across my chest saying, "I Told You So !"

oh well nub's just go back to Shill'ing Shitcoins for peanuts.. nom nom nom cheap coins  ::)

PS:
That was a tasty snack but i usually eat more noobs before breakfast !
Keep 'em coming fresh noobs NOM NOM NOM NOM ;)

And that's exactly why this thread has the word FACTS used so significantly.