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Title: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: remotemass on December 04, 2012, 11:49:08 PM
Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango - Bitcoin, a virtual currency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DVOYyx_6U

Unbelievably this video isn't a prank. Or is it?!
I hope someone does some good follow ups on this or I will see my self forced to do it, one of these days.
Because... it isn't excuse the complexity of the subject standing as an expert on the subject.
If he really did write a bitcoin client and can do more than Flash animations and bell ringing, well... than he would be doing much better explaining the intrinsicaties of Satoshi paper, like explaining what, why and how are digital signatures used by bitcoin; how is hashing used in bitcoin, about the block creation and mining reward, proof-of-work, and so.
At least 90% of the people hate hackers, so he better explained properly what he meant saying that "we" were hackers. I know hacking can be an ethical activity but many people don't and I think it is very mean not making a distinction between right and wrong activities, 
I don't think it did a good job explaining it. And cryptography isn't limited by the number of prime numbers that is known, and the methods/alogithms used by bitcoin are in practice quite impossible to break or hack. It all needs really better explanation.
We need to keep instructing ourselves in order to make ourselves clear and be able to
dissipate all sorts of confusions that are prone to arise.
Also the potential of bitcoin was left too vague and I think he should had given better hints about what he meant regarding that, like mentioning the possibility of smart propriety, distributed contracts, provably fair gambling, and so. He just left it very vague at that point.


Title: Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: greyhawk on December 05, 2012, 12:47:40 AM
Why are we talking about Amir still? Shouldn't he be sitting in a jail cell by now?


Title: Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on December 05, 2012, 12:50:18 AM
Why are we talking about Amir still? Shouldn't he be sitting in a jail cell by now?
Not been reading up much, what did he do?


Title: Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: repentance on December 05, 2012, 12:56:21 AM
Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango - Bitcoin, a virtual currency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DVOYyx_6U

Unbelievably this video isn't a prank. Or is it?!
I hope someone does some good follow ups on this or I will see my self forced to do it, one of these days.
Because... it isn't excuse the complexity of the subject standing as an expert on the subject.
If he really did write a bitcoin client and can do more than Flash animations and bell ringing, well... than he would be doing much better explaining the intrinsicaties of Satoshi paper, like explaining what, why and how are digital signatures used by bitcoin; how is hashing used in bitcoin, about the block creation and mining reward, proof-of-work, and so.
At least 90% of the people hate hackers, so he better explained properly what he meant saying that "we" were hackers. I know hacking can be an ethical activity but many people don't and I think it is very mean not making a distinction between right and wrong activities,  
I don't think it did a good job explaining it. And cryptography isn't limited by the number of prime numbers that is known, and the methods/alogithms used by bitcoin are in practice quite impossible to break or hack. It all needs really better explanation.
We need to keep instructing ourselves in order to make ourselves clear and be able to
dissipate all sorts of confusions that are prone to arise.
Also the potential of bitcoin was left too vague and I think he should had given better hints about what he meant regarding that, like mentioning the possibility of smart propriety, distributed contracts, provably fair gambling, and so. He just left it very vague at that point.

Leaving aside the question of whether or not Amir is regarded by the community as an "expert", plenty of technically competent people are not good speakers and suck shit at explaining concepts to others.  If you believe better explanations are needed, get to work on creating them - all though there are already many good explanations out there if you bother looking for them.

It's also somewhat ironic that you're criticising someone else's ability to communicate effectively when it takes considerable effort on the part of the reader to comprehend your own post.


Title: Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: yokosan on December 12, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
And this gentlemen is why bitcoin is, and forever will be, a joke.


Title: Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: Jutarul on December 12, 2012, 08:19:27 PM
Last question (21'): "What sets bitcoins apart from cash (or anything else) which explains it's value"
His answer: "You have lots of people who think it has value"

I am not surprised that serious people perceive it as a Ponzi scheme, provided such an answer by a so-called expert.



Title: Re: Amir Taaki, Founder of Intersango, talk: "Bitcoin, a virtual currency"
Post by: hazek on December 12, 2012, 09:35:04 PM
This is a repost, therefor I'm locking it.