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tricky, just read this Thread and you know what to do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256779.0

We wait until the 25BTC are on escrow then.

Good luck sir.

As mentioned many here have been burned by folks with no rep on the forums so it'll be tough to gain any real traction. 

I hope it works out for you and anyone that might join.

lol not a good time to start a pool as a 'Newbie' and no trust.

if that is all that is relevant to people then they need mental help mate, any body can make conversation and multiple posts in order to gain "status" lol i'm not looking for status nor is my account recent, and as stated ive had my alt pools up for a good year now and not a single complaint, pretty sure my name would be mud round here if i was a scammer, i just dont normally do forums (avoid them like the plague being honest) but ive made my btc pool public and this was the first place i thought of to invite some users, smaller pools do tend to pay a better reward just a lot less frequent. maybe id be wise sticking to just facebook in future, thanks for the insight though mate :)

smaller pools do tend to pay a better reward just a lot less frequent

maybe id be wise sticking to just facebook in future

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yeah im basing this on personal experience from mining xmr at various pools, the statement is pretty accurate where xmr is concerned, fairly stable net hash yet some pools i can earn about 1 xmr a day, others im lucky to get 0.25 per day kinda thing, less miners and all that. i do appreciate bitcoin network shouldnt be compared, but i need something to base these thoughts on lol
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That's incorrect.

Using a small sample to predict a population, when you can actually calculate it instead, shows a rather disconcerting lack of understanding of random statistics of a poisson distribution.

However, if that altcoin you mentioned doesn't behave the same way, that simply means their proof of work is flawed and it's a scam.

I guess you've just turned away any miners who do understand a little statistics.

sorry mate it seems you have no idea of what xmr is or your attempting to employ the bbb theory, this is why i avoid forums lol you do know that 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot dont you lol
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if that is all that is relevant to people then they need mental help mate, any body can make conversation and multiple posts in order to gain "status" lol i'm not looking for status nor is my account recent, and as stated ive had my alt pools up for a good year now and not a single complaint, pretty sure my name would be mud round here if i was a scammer, i just dont normally do forums (avoid them like the plague being honest) but ive made my btc pool public and this was the first place i thought of to invite some users, smaller pools do tend to pay a better reward just a lot less frequent. maybe id be wise sticking to just facebook in future, thanks for the insight though mate :)

In a couple posts you've questioned how to do something as inane as quoting text and changing font colors... Seriously?  Why would anyone in their right mind trust you to be able to properly manage a pool if you can't even figure out the basics of how to utilize forum software?   

http://www.braintreehighnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Keyshawn.jpg

Yes, your alt coin pool.  Assuming you mean this one: http://wemine.uk:89?  I'm curious why you decided to use coiniumserv for your alt coin pools, but went with NOMP/MPOS for your BTC one?

Perhaps I should rephrase what I stated in my previous reply.  Here goes:

It shows a lack of professionalism that you won't even bother to understand the basics of the medium through which you are communicating.  Rather than ask, "Hey, how did you change the font color?" or "Could you show me how to quote snippets?" you glossed over it and gave some lackadaisical answer about the poster showing off.  That made me ask myself, "Is this guy really serious about running a pool or able to provide any support for his pool if he can't even figure out forum software?"

Anyway, good luck.  As has been mentioned a few times, you've picked a pretty tough time to show up and announce a new pool.

Huh... that's interesting.  I've only ever played with coiniumserv locally to see what it was like compared to some other offerings.  Never gave it much more than a cursory look because of its reliance on mono to emulate the .NET framework on non-windows platforms.  Certainly a bug as glaring as what you're describing should have been noticed :)

As for you last statement... nobody is trying to con you out of 25BTC.  They want assurances that they won't be conned out of the coin.  That very thing just happened, and was referenced earlier in the thread (look up nexious).  So, -ck very graciously (and then phillipma1957 as well) offered to escrow the 25BTC, so that when a new pool found a block the miners would at least be guaranteed to get their coins in case the pool operator ran off with them like the last guy did.

yeah its a known issue that has been reported to the github project several times, i believe there is also a bounty for fixing it, but like i say the whole share recording and calculations need rewriting to fix it, and i had nothing to do with the development of the project so i would effectively be starting at the ground up, which to me is a long drawn out process that will take too much time for my self :/ and yeah i know exactly what you mean where mono is concerned ispent hours fighting with ubuntu + mono

no offense but im taking it as an attempt to con me mate, i dont know the guy from adam, and im being asked to trust a stranger with what will be other peoples coins, now im aware of nexious i did have a quick nosey, granted there are some seriously unscrupulous individuals walking amongst us, but im not 1 of them yes i know talk is cheap but the fact that my alt pools have not generated a single bad word against me in a good year must say im not a thief or at the least, give indications i actually know what im doing lol

like i said, i was effectively solo mining with my 2TH for about 4 months now, i started when net hash was almost half of todays nethash, after 4 months now with double the net hash i still have not found a block, and my chances have as good as halved, so reseting all the shares and opening it to the public seemed my best option, i see you have your own mpos btc pool which has found a block, well done mate how much hash was on your pool at the time it found the block, if you dont mind my prying :) if net hash wasn't so huge or somebody has access to a lot of hash im more than happy for my pool to be hammered to catch its first block, then you will all see it will pay out, im not in the business of upsetting people and giving them chance to send the old bill after me mate, end of the day the domain is registered to me there is accountability, and lets face it 25 btc currently = £7716.84, thats not even enough to buy a shit car mate, why would i rip a number of users off to not even gain 5 months of living expense then have the worst reputation ever and never prosper, some people may be that cheap but im certainly not, i wouldn't destroy my reputation for anything less than what i would need to survive till the day i die, minimum £10,000,000 but this is the same for anybody who has morals and intelligence dont you think?

I am not buying your excuse mate ;)
You do not know Con but we know him and we do not know you. I personally tried to warn people in Nexious pool but nobody listened. So this time I do hope they will listen. Starting a pool from nowhere these days is a sure loss  for the pool OP. I am wandering where your energy is comming from... ???
Best
People be warned and be careful what you do!

A couple of things.... A newbie has no reputation here and can just start a new ID when things go bad.
There has been people here ripped off for a lot less than 25BTC. You mine with 2TH which is nothing but you sound disappointed you did not find a back in 4 months time. So you started this pool 4 months ago to solo mine at 2 TH? If not where were you solo mining at? Lastly even the forum name you chose for yourself was a bad choice to gain any kind of trust with me. Sorry I would not waste my time to even dig into this pool any further.

100+ for the croud though. But I will not waste my time to argue with you or convince "crowd" or your potential buddies how trustworthy or scammy you are. I have tried many many times without succes. So if you are good enough to convince them and scam them go ahead and do it. If they are stupid and dum enough to go for it even warned many times it is their fault and blame
I am done with this topic also
Good luck with your venture
On my ex solo pool a miner with 2th found two bloks for last year. So do not loose your hope miracles still happen especially arround Christmas  ;D

i see you have your own mpos btc pool which has found a block, well done mate how much hash was on your pool at the time it found the block, if you dont mind my prying :)

if net hash wasn't so huge or somebody has access to a lot of hash im more than happy for my pool to be hammered to catch its first block, then you will all see it will pay out, im not in the business of upsetting people and giving them chance to send the old bill after me mate, end of the day the domain is registered to me there is accountability, and lets face it 25 btc currently = £7716.84, thats not even enough to buy a shit car mate, why would i rip a number of users off to not even gain 5 months of living expense then have the worst reputation ever and never prosper, some people may be that cheap but im certainly not, i wouldn't destroy my reputation for anything less than what i would need to survive till the day i die, minimum £10,000,000 but this is the same for anybody who has morals and intelligence dont you think?

and 4 thats your choice mate, thank you for the input but i hope there are not many more people who are quick to judge a book by its cover around here, or im deffo in the wrong place :(

I had about 1.5PH on my pool when I found the block... not prying at all Smiley.  It was on my own dime, too.  I'd spent about 9BTC on my own in rentals before the block hit.  All in all not a bad ROI for me, and the miners on my pool made a pretty decent little payout as well.

As has been pointed out, people have been ripped off for far less than 25BTC.  Also, and I'm glad you had a nosey (great expression by the way) regarding nexious.  It shows that people certainly are wiling to risk it to run the con.  He'd started attracting some miners - many of whom spent months on his pool.  It wasn't until I found the block on his pool that the scam was exposed and the guy ran.

Unfortunately, because the cryptocurrency ecosystem is so new and so many people have been burned (from scamming hardware vendors, to scamming pool operators), that's exactly what happens: books are indeed judged by their covers.

Not me, some one who mined there.
Here is your info last two blocks were found whith in a couple of days before pool was closed. What you need is luck and good blessing though
http://tbdice.org/blocks.htm
Blocks 2 and 3 the guy mined from beginnig with 2TH

:o wow i must admit im shocked, youve basically just told me what i didnt want to hear lol, yeah i was looking at hiring, but 1btc for 3 hours at 1PH is a pretty big gamble, massive respect for the persistence and 9 btc gamble, i dont think i could personally go that far myself but i understand some people have thousands of btc from years ago, you could be 1 of those peeps as anything is possible :)

no offense but im taking it as an attempt to con me mate, i dont know the guy from adam, and im being asked to trust a stranger with what will be other peoples coins,

can you not see that i dont know you? you could have created this site and 50% of the user accounts, and set the scene for multiple accounts to have "status", your claims are just as empty to me as mine are to you mate, trust is a 2 way street and im not stupid lol

You do realize the guy with whom you're having your discussion is the guy who wrote the mining software that the vast majority of the ~650PH on the network uses, right?

Just checking... :P

I have waited before I replied to the thread.

Since the thread is not moderated I won't be deleted.

I have sold 100k plus on ebay since 2003. More then 1500 positive feedback

I have sold 10k plus here on this site and over 400 trust.

More then 20 people on this site have my mailing address.

I live 3 miles from another member on the site .

My feedback on ebay

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I never posted on this thread with the escrow offer that pays the pool.   ie 25 coins in and 25.25 coins back  others mention my offer.

I tell you what   I won't say don't mine with this pool

I will say the pool op has refused  a 1% bounty on the first block by not taking the escrow offer.
I will say the pool op has not made a counter offer such as I don't have 25 btc to escrow but I have 12.5 btc to escrow.
The pool op has said I won't trust anyone to escrow.  My offer was I would pay  the escrow fees to ck or ognasty or escrow myself.

So to all if you want to mine with Tricky-Wicky-Dicky

  (I got that right don't I? Or is that what a call a very personal part of myself? damn getting old is tough I just can't remember shit)


  it is your coin not mine.

I will say at least 4 or 5 guys have come to this forum since the Nexious ripoff or is it the same guy 5 times.

If I was nexious I would come back to this site full of myself and try again to lift some coin just for the amusement of it.

Seriously !?! Phil is an idiot now ? Phil have earn MY trust and MANY others over the years on this forum. Sooo...

Why you don't just go fuck yourself with your pool ?

That's all i have to say.

A friend to this community and very far from been enough retard to call Phil an idiot.

Yes you're right, The use or the word "seems" excuse you for not been able to understand any of the past warning we gave you in the last 3 pages of this thread.

It seems to me that you take our community for retards.

It seems you don't want to understand.

It seems Phil's message wasn't clear enough for you so better let's say he seems he wants to be acting like an idiot. (But hey, you're not saying he's one. It ONLY seems)

It seems I have lost enough time with you trying to figure out if you really want to make your pool trustworthy or not.

But HEY, i use the verb seems so it's ONLY observation.

the proof is in the pudding :p
gotta love it when peeps get pissy, shows im getting the effect they were looking for :P but yeah you've wasted enough of my time too pal, but your still here bashing out replies gotta admire the community spirit and all but im an anti socialist cant stand socialism, we are all equal what ever you think about me, you think about yourself, maybe not consciously but you do ;)

Hi all thought it was about time i started being an active member in the community, here are some of my own personal contributions please feel free to make use of my pools, the payouts are as fair as possible and work on weighted averages :)

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lol  i might not be brilliant with words, but there again im not trying to cast a perfect spell, im honest and my hearts in the right place, take my word for it or dont thats up to you mate, im not a thief cant stand them, people are wise to be mistrusting in todays society, its a sad sorry state of afairs, we have the capacity to all be truely equal and free, all have anything and everything we wanted with minimal contribution
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http://wemine.uk:89 Altcoin Pool, please note the worker hash rates report incorrectly, however everything else works as it should

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as you say inane, i cant stand forums mate, im not wasting my time learning how to use somebody elses creation when i have facebook to deal with that particular desire :)
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and as for me choosing not to learn how a forum works (its no secret im no forum fan), thats my choice pal im not wasting my time learning a platform to interact with strangers, truth be told i dont care how to quote snippets i have copy and paste and "" lols my time is better spent maintaining my pools and faucets,
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smaller pools do tend to pay a better reward just a lot less frequent
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haha i never implied the overall average payout was better long term, if thats how it comes across i can only appologise it wasnt intended to
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"risk millions of dollars worth of hardware " this is some serious exaggeration right? most miners have ROI by now if not close to it, who knows maybe somebody here really does have millions of dollars worth of hardware, but cant get their own pool to solo mine, c'mon man i live in the real world im not expecting peta hashes of contribution for individual miners, im not saying i would turn it away i would actually be shocked if i got even 1 PH on my pool i wouldn't even care that my 2Th would be paying almost nothing, like i say this is my hobby i do it to pass the time :)

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im never getting 51% of the network, i think id be lucky to get 1% of the net hash on my pool in all honesty, it would be nice and welcome, but i have no expectations.
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Yes you're right, The use or the word "seems" excuse you for not been able to understand any of the past warning we gave you in the last 3 pages of this thread.

It seems to me that you take our community for retards.

It seems you don't want to understand.

It seems Phil's message wasn't clear enough for you so better let's say he seems he wants to be acting like an idiot. (But hey, you're not saying he's one. It ONLY seems)

It seems I have lost enough time with you trying to figure out if you really want to make your pool trustworthy or not.

But HEY, i use the verb seems so it's ONLY observation.

WTF  :o ??? >:(

I too hate forums and dont do much contributing but I do a lot of reading! Whilst I appreciate a lot of altcoiners get fed up with the scam I have lost a few quid myself but personally I am sick of reading so much crap from people either claiming something to be a scam jut because they dont like what someone has written or just hurly insults at people in a innocent thread like this.

I was the one that put the 4t on the pool after stumbling on the pool by accident. Emailed from pool then had some email conversation with tricky and he was very quick to reply and was very honest in answering my questions.  Some of you more senior members are getting a bit big for your boots, we have become a society o guilty until proven innocent rather than the other way and thats not right

WTF  :o ??? >:(

I too hate forums and dont do much contributing but I do a lot of reading! Whilst I appreciate a lot of altcoiners get fed up with the scam I have lost a few quid myself but personally I am sick of reading so much crap from people either claiming something to be a scam jut because they dont like what someone has written or just hurly insults at people in a innocent thread like this.

I was the one that put the 4t on the pool after stumbling on the pool by accident. Emailed from pool then had some email conversation with tricky and he was very quick to reply and was very honest in answering my questions.  Some of you more senior members are getting a bit big for your boots, we have become a society o guilty until proven innocent rather than the other way and thats not right

So that's what they eat, often wondered.

Glad we put this thread to some good use.

 ;D

I don't know if its legit,  but it looks like tricky solved a block.

Congrats on your first block solve... and absolutely absurd good luck, too.  Only 364,375,814 shares.  That's 0.38%.

thanks mate, we only had 2.15Th on the pool at the time aswell :) christmas miracles do happen :)

So assuming this was your hash rate only you do have 25 coins to deposit for escrow just in case ;)
As I said miracles do happen but only some times......

I do not want your coins pall send them to Con as sugested and eventualy more miners exept yourself may join ;D
Funny a?
You can lol(ing) as much as you want
ROFL

LOL... skills as a pool operator have nothing to do with it :P.  Christmas miracle?  Far more likely explanation ;D.  Personally, I love it when some tiny hash finds a block.  Folks rent petahash all the time with no luck, then some guy with an S5 hits.

I'm still waiting for one my of old U2 sticks to hit a block... my own gear has only ever hit 1 block.  An S1 I had hit early in 2014 on p2pool.  Nothing since then.  Rented hash, I've hit a couple (1 on Nexious - and uncovered his con and 1 on my pool).

i will never stop laughing at how gulible people seem to expect me to be mate, trust me dont trust me thats your problem, just dont ask me to give my funds away, under the pretence i may get them back,
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You are asking people to give you an 'expected' 25BTC in mining power under the pretence you may give it back ...

Some unknown, or some well respected knowns ... tough choice that one for anyone that's a moron ...

The simple fact of this situation "tricky" is you spent zero time browsing this forum and gaining entrance to this community with respectable means.
In doing this you have assured your own situation which is only one notch above someone who has been proven to be a scammer.

I will let you in on something you should already know. Phil, CK, Kano, have all put in their time and are the ones who would be innocent until proven guilty. This is something each of us either has went or are still going through. In this community you earn your stripes and trust through time and positive involvement.

It will not change, and is the same over the world now. Even in the good ol' country law where you live if it states innocent until proven guilty that has not been the way legal systems have functioned for a long time. To believe differently is to be too young, too stupid, or too naive to have any experience in that world.

Bitcoin has been all about the scammers for a long time which is why here you will always find far more skeptics than people who will throw their hash your way.

The 25 coins would be going to a trusted member who has been trusted with far more, over, and over, and over again by hundreds if not a larger number of people. It is done to protect people in the community, and again, if you had done any service to this community you wish to recruit from, you would have read a bit and already know such, or at least been more observant and know how things work.

For someone opening a pool your actions scream scam because the very things you should be doing to recruit miners are nowhere in your actions.

The things you've done have guaranteed failure for your "pool" and anyone who mines there.

I enjoy seeing "smaller" pools solve blocks. I've searched out small pools myself because I enjoy various things about them, but one of the big ones is watching them grow. Unfortunately, your pool will never hit anything legitimate for any reasonable length of time because you are lazy and want to try and gain reputation by acting like an asshole. Maybe that wasn't your intent, but it is whats been done.

Good Luck getting a mining community to mine with you when you insult most of them.  

In summary:
You asked me what my problem is.
I do not have one in this context.
The problems I do have are off-topic, and you can rest easy knowing they are long term issues being dealt with in the appropriate manner.

It is obvious you do not know how the world works, or what is needed to be successful.

again i do not seek fame or fortune, this is my hobby you ignorant cretin, sorry but ive repeated myself entirely too many times you are an ignorant retard who thinks i a give  shit what you or anybody else thinks, open your eyes ive said it enough times, what is it you cant handle truth, due to constantly being fed bullshit or something else dumb, it is you who has no clue of the "real world" sheepy

I was making a couple of very plain statements regarding observations of this thread and your inability to gain the very thing you came to accomplish.  If you dislike forums so much and didn't care if any miners came to your pool you wouldn't have made the thread and much less still reply.

again i cam on to invite miners plain and simple, had no expectations as stated but yeah your that retarded and actually want to live the wrong way, god luck getting the mass's to adopt with your retarded attitude, you have spent too many hours reading and learning to recite bullshit in my opinion!

In my opinion you seek what you have already destroyed. You cannot get something like that back under the name TrickyRiky.
There are certain forum manipulations available to everyone, but most of us do not care to participate in such childish acts. They do not even enter my mind as an option until I see something in that class. I am now discussing trust ratings, which I'm sure you know nothing about. Believe me, it isn't that I care two licks for them except to say that some new forum members care a great deal for them. I enjoy helping new members, and sometimes, as in your case, it is an equivalent to tough love as you are unable to grasp how these things work until it is bluntly laid out for you. Obviously you still resist, but as others before you, there will be a mysterious new account who makes one of their first few posts on the forum defending you. There will not be a single individual who is a trusted member to say peep on your behalf.

your opinion stems from your desire to scam me out of what ever you can get, are you another 1 of these sados living in mummys basement? if i get any reputation or trust on this forum it will be genuine, again as stated a name in law is nothing more than that by which something is commonly known, im commonly known as Tricky pleased to meet you, why would i use anything other than my real name fooking ejert attempting to lead me into a socialy acceptable stance, fuck socialism., he who goes with the crowd will go no further than the crown, or do you need that spelling out further?

Again, so you understand, this is how the world works. You cannot walk in a bar being a loudmouth asshole without getting your ass handed to you. I don't know why you would expect any different unless you haven't previously been through or seen someone else go through something similar. It is obvious you do not have the ability to grasp the facts of the situation so at your age I must assume you simply do not have the life experience.

LOL stop making assumptions, or casting aspersions you are so far off the track its untrue, got me wondering how close your description is to your own state of affairs now, gotta be relating your retarded mentality to somebody close to you, i did say i understand psychology you will not CONvince me of anything.

You might (and this is a big maybe) you may sweet talk a couple of people with little to no hash to mine at your pool. I do not believe anyone with even a below average IQ would mine with you consistently unless you paid them well above the going PPS price, or, somehow scammed them.

you need to come back to the real world where EVERYBODY is EQUAL pal, either that or you need serious psychological help!

With regards to bitcoin having mass adoption, again you show your ignorance. Bitcoin is gaining mass adoption in front of many of us. Albeit, it grows much faster in front of those of us who care about such, and take part in the daily process to foster said growth.

clearly not living in the real world, 90% of the populous say bitcoin hahaha you want me to put my money somewhere the govt have control of it, yeah ok pull the other 1...... as long as internet access and electricity are not free the intelligent mass's will not risk losing their money by an internet shutdown, thank fook, we put entirely too much faith in technology, bitcoin will never take over fiat but it is capable of working parralel to fiat, well it is if dick heads like you drop the guilty until proven innocent retarded stance, sorry if you dont like it, just a realist telling it like it is!

Since you do not care and this was all about an "invitation" good luck with that. Any miner worth his salt will want a pool operator who does care.

matter of opinion that 1, everyone has 1 and more often than not they stink :)

I will not waste more of my time or publicize your excuse for a pool any further. I will give you the last word since I know more LOLs is really what you love to type. I am confident my job here is done in that no matter what takes place as this thread progresses you have learned a valuable lesson or you are not smart enough to learn it. Either way there is nothing more I can do.

why would i lower myself to a retards level to be beaten by experience? but thanks for the last words, your "job" as you put it, who pays your sallary, or does that come from the silly sheepy victims you do manae to con

Good Luck to you. I hope you do not take anyone's coin, but other than that you were a blip who will soon pass, or come back under a new name.

dont need luck and i dont need to steal you might which would be a perfectly accurate explanation as to why your trying to tar me with your own dirty brush, as you dont know any better, i almost pitty you 

Remember, common sense over irrational actions will always rule supreme.

i have plenty of common sense thank you, im assuming here your a murican haha

the minimum to withdraw BTC?

hi auto payout is currently set for min of 0.001 and manual payout a minimum of 1btc, i can change this if needs be as and when needed :)

I have not fired Automatic Payout 0.001