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Title: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on December 31, 2015, 08:10:21 PM
I find this quite strange, is everyone in a signature campaign considered a scammer or a spammer?

I have negative feedback from a person that claims that I am a spammer, his reference is only ONE link though. That was also when I was new to this forum and had only been a member with it for a few weeks!

Your opinions on my trust and this matter would be very usefule.

Thank you in advance.

Jack G


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: shorena on December 31, 2015, 08:16:04 PM
Looks like someone that was unable to sell a domain for a month got butthurt.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: Arcteryx on December 31, 2015, 08:18:29 PM
But you had 2 negative trust before that time so that might have contributed to this accusation of being a spammer.

The majority do not realize that the signature managers ask a lot from the campaigner and they have to conform whether it be learning to write English or even if the person does not have a GED to pass their campaign standards.
I am just hoping for the new year that the people who are calling the legtimate people spammers on the forums see them as employees of a campaign that have to obey what the managers tell them they have to do and not threaten their job performance. Cause at the end of the day, it is a job. And how would you like it if you were criticized by others for doing a job. The managers are the ones who decide if the employee gets fired or not. Let them decide.

Good will towards men!

Happy New years and lets hope it is a better one than the one that has just concluded.  :)


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: redsn0w on December 31, 2015, 08:19:57 PM
Not everyone, but a lot of them are spammer(s) (mostly jr.member - member etc.. but also sr. member).


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on December 31, 2015, 08:27:18 PM
But you had 2 negative trust before that time so that might have contributed to this accusation of being a spammer.

The majority do not realize that the signature managers ask a lot from the campaigner and they have to conform whether it be learning to write English or even if the person does not have a GED to pass their campaign standards.
I am just hoping for the new year that the people who are calling the legtimate people spammers on the forums see them as employees of a campaign that have to obey what the managers tell them they have to do and not threaten their job performance. Cause at the end of the day, it is a job. And how would you like it if you were criticized by others for doing a job. The managers are the ones who decide if the employee gets fired or not. Let them decide.

Good will towards men!

Happy New years and lets hope it is a better one than the one that has just concluded.  :)

I can confirm that:
One of those negative trust scores was from the user that gave me negative trust.
The other of those negative trust scores was from a user that was trying to spam high-up members, typically choosing staff and moderators (don't know why I was chosen?).

So, both of the trust scores (i feel) were not legitimate!


In addition, I feel that the capitalisation of web addresses is quite rediculous!


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: Arcteryx on December 31, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
Not everyone, but a lot of them are spammer(s) (mostly jr.member - member etc.. but also sr. member).
So wouldn't it make sense than to ban the jr. and newbie too semi-member(not near the Full member status) from signature campaigns all together since their account don't mean any thing to them, essentially a throw away account  ???


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on December 31, 2015, 08:46:18 PM
Not everyone, but a lot of them are spammer(s) (mostly jr.member - member etc.. but also sr. member).
So wouldn't it make sense than to ban the jr. and newbie too semi-member(not near the Full member status) from signature campaigns all together since their account don't mean any thing to them, essentially a throw away account  ???

Like you said. Campaign managers should really check this first. They should regularly monitor the post strength. If they feel that a user is spamming, they should inform them and give them a warning or remove their account entirely.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 01, 2016, 04:48:11 AM
I joined bitcointalk in March of this year and only just joined the Yobit campaign in December.   As soon as I did, BAM!  People start attacking my posts as being sig spam, which they most definitely are not.  English is my native tongue and I'm a college grad, and I'm not posting just to get paid.  I enjoy being here for the most part.  Ah well let the critics hate, I'm eating cake.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on January 01, 2016, 02:34:15 PM
I joined bitcointalk in March of this year and only just joined the Yobit campaign in December.   As soon as I did, BAM!  People start attacking my posts as being sig spam, which they most definitely are not.  English is my native tongue and I'm a college grad, and I'm not posting just to get paid.  I enjoy being here for the most part.  Ah well let the critics hate, I'm eating cake.

Considering that people don't really change their posting habits before and after being in a signature campaign. I don't really think people shoulde be discriminating agains those of us that want to earn whilst posting.

Some may be spamming, but they are usually found and banned by the mods and admins before they can post any more.

Signature campaigns also pay a very low amount!

Mine is only at 0.00075 BTC per post


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: s1ng on January 01, 2016, 02:41:04 PM
People usually spam when they join pay per post sig campaign ( post more, get paid more ).
Different case if you're joined fixed campaign  :)

But as long as their post are on topic and helpfull , I see that's not a big problem here


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: icaruz on January 01, 2016, 02:59:34 PM
Not everyone, but a lot of them are spammer(s) (mostly jr.member - member etc.. but also sr. member).
youre absolutely right ,so you consider yourself as a good quality poster?
everyone who registers on a campaign is a spammer we all know that
no matter what rank they are as long they join on a campaign they start to spam.
am i right?


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: Vod on January 01, 2016, 03:01:52 PM
no matter what rank they are as long they join on a campaign they start to spam.
am i right?

Depends on if you need the money or not.

To some people the extra coin is just a bonus, and they continue to post as normal.

(Disclaimer:  I get paid 0.01btc per post to promote Winston Churchill)   ;)  


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2016, 03:07:57 PM
Not everyone, but a lot of them are spammer(s) (mostly jr.member - member etc.. but also sr. member).
youre absolutely right ,so you consider yourself as a good quality poster?
everyone who registers on a campaign is a spammer we all know that
no matter what rank they are as long they join on a campaign they start to spam.
am i right?


No, I'm not consider myself a good poster. I just post here because I want to say something  (at the end it is always a forum) not because I'm paid (this is the difference). I was enrolled in a lot of signature campaign, in the post months, but recently I've changed idea and started to think that it is not necessary to be paid for my posts (and I'm in the 50 forum members by number of posts in the forum ... ).


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: defaultking on January 01, 2016, 03:10:38 PM
To me it's a fine line that signature campaign managers and "employees" if you will must balance. Campaign managers don't want to get a bad reputation of kicking people out of there campaign for no reason, but at the same time it's there priv ledge to be able to advertise on the site. At the same time though campaigns want as much advertising on the forums they can get so they wont encourage spamming but the more posts on the site the better for them.

If everyone works together to keep good content on the site up with lots of people actively participating its a win win for all.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: ralle14 on January 01, 2016, 03:42:51 PM
I joined bitcointalk in March of this year and only just joined the Yobit campaign in December.   As soon as I did, BAM!  People start attacking my posts as being sig spam, which they most definitely are not.  English is my native tongue and I'm a college grad, and I'm not posting just to get paid.  I enjoy being here for the most part.  Ah well let the critics hate, I'm eating cake.
Others are hating on yobit campaigners because many are forced to reach the max payout by posting 20 times thats 140 posts in a week which is crazy i myself couldnt do that i only post like 1-10times in a day and read much about everything before saying anything unlike others just read the topic then go post their own opinion


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: TheXev on January 01, 2016, 03:57:27 PM
not all users who wearing signature are spammer,many users are using forum as they do regular without making posts for signatures but some of them are posting for signature income,I think pay per post signature campaign should be banned, its the biggest reason for spam on forum, more they spam more they get paid.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on January 01, 2016, 04:52:45 PM
not all users who wearing signature are spammer,many users are using forum as they do regular without making posts for signatures but some of them are posting for signature income,I think pay per post signature campaign should be banned, its the biggest reason for spam on forum, more they spam more they get paid.

I am on a paid to post signature campaign.

The reason:
It is the least restrictive of campaigns. (I do not have to post in certain sections).

Unlike the paid per week campaigns which most ask you to post 80% of posts in the gabling section or a certain section, which I would be unable to do as I like to browse all of the topics and boards in their entirety.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: Zosinburg on January 03, 2016, 11:33:24 AM
I joined bitcointalk in March of this year and only just joined the Yobit campaign in December.   As soon as I did, BAM!  People start attacking my posts as being sig spam, which they most definitely are not.  English is my native tongue and I'm a college grad, and I'm not posting just to get paid.  I enjoy being here for the most part.  Ah well let the critics hate, I'm eating cake.

That is right. There are many short posts in this forum, which was UK. But if you join the campaign, they will accuse you spamming.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on January 06, 2016, 06:44:31 PM
Yey another one!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317407.0

(great).

Where I was accused of spamming for trying to help a user.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: Ðire on January 06, 2016, 08:28:46 PM
-snip-

Why do you care? It's obvious that they're either idiots or trolls. Just ignore and move on.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on January 06, 2016, 10:16:01 PM
-snip-

Why do you care? It's obvious that they're either idiots or trolls. Just ignore and move on.

I care because they are "bumping" my trust!

One of the second person's excuses is that: I already had negative trust from spamming.

I don't really want negative trust, it decreases my account's value for when I post and means I may be unable to join signature campaigns.

Ironically, he now doesn't have any evidence, the post was deleted by a mod (for some unknown reason)!


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: shorena on January 06, 2016, 11:09:38 PM
-snip-
Ironically, he now doesn't have any evidence, the post was deleted by a mod (for some unknown reason)!

Its offtopic to the auction.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: jackg on January 08, 2016, 06:12:05 PM
-snip-
Ironically, he now doesn't have any evidence, the post was deleted by a mod (for some unknown reason)!

Its offtopic to the auction.

How was it off topic? I was suggesting he would get more bidders, if he reduced the minimum bid from 0.015btc to 0.01 btc.

He then also stated that I risked 3 BTC of his?


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: shorena on January 08, 2016, 06:43:07 PM
-snip-
Ironically, he now doesn't have any evidence, the post was deleted by a mod (for some unknown reason)!

Its offtopic to the auction.

How was it off topic? I was suggesting he would get more bidders, if he reduced the minimum bid from 0.015btc to 0.01 btc.

That would be a topic for trading discussion. Its like posting "you should move this topic to X" which is always offtopic to the topic at hand, where topics go is a discussion for meta.

He then also stated that I risked 3 BTC of his?

People tend to fill in some arbitrary number into that field. AFAIK a value is required, if someone is angry, hitting 1,2,3 or 4 are easy to reach keys on most keyboards. Some even fill in 21 million.


Title: Re: Everyone In a Signature Campaign Is a Spammer?
Post by: mexxer-2 on January 08, 2016, 06:46:42 PM

He then also stated that I risked 3 BTC of his?
He's just being butt-hurt, like nearly most of the untrusted feedbacks I've got
Quote
robmob -2: -1 / +0   2016-01-08       1.00000000      Use accuses people of doing things with out knowing full story. Sketchy member deal with caution.

kydranel -4: -2 / +0   2015-12-28   1.00000000      deal with caution

leuk999 0: -0 / +0   2015-12-02   0.80000000   Reference   100% Scamer .. He is Scameer....

I seem to have scammed 2.8 BTC in that case.

Edit: Oh and prolly mentioned a lot by now, but move on.