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Anyone have any opinions on what gambling site is best to invest in? What I'm looking for is gambling sites that have the highest payback or interest and have been around a while with a good reputation. I'm located in the US so don't know if that matters if I'm just looking to invest a small amount of bitcoin in a gambling site.

Hi, me and my friends bet with Direct bet!
I found good betting without an account (but only an email/address for payback when input your bet).

Every 5 btc wagered in betting you receive 0.02 btc as payback!
Not bad there are also a lot of live match (with betfair quotes -15%) ;)

Best regards

Not looking to bet on gambling sites just looking for gambling sites I can invest in.

friend your idea is good that you want to earn btc by investment but investment of btc in gambling site is almost full of risk .
investment of btc at gambling sites is to means to loss your btc any time ( since we can earn btc) . because the gambling site will also pay that amount % of btc that is profit/lost .
since gambling site can make you  also
that they got loss . in this way you can loss all of your btc . so i will suggest you please don't try to take risk to invest the btc at gambling site

There is no such thing as best gambling site to invest in.They all have their conditions.Depends on what you like the most .
Here a couple of sites you can invest in : https://just-dice.com/
https://www.bitdice.me/
Moreover ,this article gives a nice insights of investing in dice sites : http://www.bitroll.co/dice-investment-comparison/

Op, if you really want to profit from investing in gambling business the best way is to start your own project.
I know it may sound harsh and distant, but creation of your own bitcoin gambling business is not that hard.
All you have to have is initial money - which I assume you have because you want to put in in someone's else project.

i invest at dicebitco.in and dice.ninja :)

oh wow you are still investing to dice.ninja that turned to scam a while ago? :D i think you are just boosting your posts for the signature campaign, i think that the best site to invest is just-dice

Maybe you can try crypto-games.net  they offer 85% profit with investors.
Min investment 0.01
Profit is calculated once every hour
Minimum investment period is 24 hours

for more details you can contact the owner  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329629

bitdice is one of the best dices that offer investment option to its players also you can try just-dice as its owner is a pretty reliable person in my opinion so theres not too much risk that it will turn to a scam

many site offer this option, i mean what you search to earn btc with make a investment.. pick carefully because we all know like dice.ninja is scam after they get a lot of money from investor and i will not suggest you to invest in one site better you invest in many site. i think it would be safe

Some people just don't get jokes do they?
Says someone who is enrolled in the second spammiest campaign, to a person who has not joined any signature campaign at all

@OP I'd say CG(crypto-games.net), considering they have 1% max bet(means you have a low chance of getting huge losses), although you have a higher risk, you also have a higher profit.

When you invest in a new gambling site you're likely to get the best return, assuming that site takes off and does really well. The risk factor with choosing a new/ish gambling site is of course the owner has not earned his stripes in the Bitcoin world and is more than likely not trustworthy. Skeptical I know but I have lost little to nothing being that way.

On the other hand you have sites that have been around for a very long time or have proved they're trustworthy like Just-dice, Bitdice, BetKing, Moneypot even though they are new owners at MP.

Weigh up your options do you want to risk a lot looking for big return investments or do you want to risk a lower amount by going with one of the trusted. No-one can can/should tell you, do due diligence and make up your mind from there.

I would start your search at this site and get an idea of what is out there and take your search further  from there. https://dicesites.com/

Invest in
http://bitcoin.winspiral.net
in 100 days you have profit.

i think he want some legit dice websites that have an investment feature what would allow him to earn money slowly but surely, you offer him a hyip which will definitely make him lose money to it

U can invest in pokerstars partypoker caesars and maybe 888 but i would stay away from all of them. Until they get regulated federal poker in america there isnt to many new markets these sites can go to to make more profit. 

first of all i highly do not recommend you to invest your money in any kind of hyips as it will just steal your money without any return, i can offer you to invest in just-dice, that would be the wisest choice to put your bitcoins into to make some profit

are you sure they accept bitcoins as an investment option? if i had to invest i would most probably go with just-dice because of a good owner, though if i were in your shoes i wouldnt invest at all as the game might bankrupt and steal your funds

Putting your money in a HYIP should not be called as an investment in the first place. Everyone know it is a guaranteed scam and the only question is when it will collapse. The words "Hey I invest in a scam" doesn't work together, do they?

To be fair he said they would steal all your money. In the Investor-based Games section where the ponzis/hyips are listed, it's described as "where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game". "Investor" can be synonymous with "Sucker"

Best gambling site to invest in would be the dice site with the highest House edge and highest amount of Bitcoin being wagered.

It depends. If you want to make quick money in a short time, invest in a lesser known gambling site that doesn't have a big bankroll.

However, if you want to be safe but earn at a slower pace, invest in a very well known site like PrimeDice, moneypot.com or Just-Dice. However, these site's bankrolls are rather large, so you'd have to invest a big amount of money to make a decent profit.

Dude, get the facts straight before offering suggestions to the others. Primedice does not take investment, and the bankroll of Moneypot is now only 150 btc which is much smaller than most of the other sites taking investment.

But to invest in small bankroll that is a high risk, in case some big whale or usual people have a big winning there you will have negative for sure. Btw I dont think PrimeDice have opened investment. I am sure they have the biggest bankroll but that is their own money not from investment. And Just-Dice dont accept bitcoin, they just do clams since clams price is a little bit low now you should consider on investing on that site too

look at my sig genius. just dice dont have a sig program

if you have a lot of bitcoin and want the focus to invest choose trading, and if you have little money gambling is the right choice. direct bet the best option to invest.

Thanks for all the relevant feedback. I don't think I have enough bitcoin to invest at any of the places suggested and not sure if I have the current skills to make my own gambling site :(. No worries though I appreciate everyone's feedback it was very helpful! I'll keep looking though and maybe I'll be able to find someone to help grow my small amount of bitcoin.

FYI not looking for HYIP's was just looking for some places I could keep my satoshi and help it grow a little bit.

Just-dice.com

Crypto games does allow for small investments, starting from 0.01 BTC or the equivalent in altcoins.
It's worth giving it a shot imo if you're looking to start out small.

Does anyone know what the minimum investment amount of Moneypot is btw?

Its pretty hard to say what site is the best to invest in as most of the old sites are good. If i was to invest right now i would go with www.bitdice.me most likely as their expected return is lower. This means that theres a theoretical advantage investing as the average should correct itself. Other than that its hard to say.

you should invest in bitcoin mining site

You mean those cloud mining sites? Many of them are just scams and work like ponzi (using new investors' money to pay old investors). I believe it is safer and better to invest in some old and established gambling sites instead.

i was never invest in gambling site but if you really want to did it i think you can consider try moneypot or bitvest.io
there are have investment option in their main site

Why do you confine your investment to gambling sites! There are a lot of places to invest in, like exchange poloniex, bitfinex or haobtc etc!

Since when that directbet open investment? I never know that.


When you have little money you should never gamble it right away because you will not have a chance to recover your loss or even hold it long enough to get some profit.

Betking.io formerly Pocketrocketscasino.eu is best choice for investment i personally tested their services it is legit and one of the oldest gambling site which offering investment option into bankroll. 

Much risky to make investment in cloud mining sites almost 99% of them are scam and op will be out of the money so quickly.

Nice, I never knew the information if it weren't for this thread. I could have invest a bitcoin lately before I lose them all from betting elsewhere. 85% profit seem enticing, ain't this too huge which they could lose or go bankrupt in the end? I don't see a thread about it though. It would be nice to read the catch and the profile link you post do have negative trusts. that s0mething :)

I was also invested in PRC back in the days and have positive opinion. But what put me off was constant changes to the site, disabling investments then enabling them again, re-branding, adding new games - removing them - adding them back again etc. There's nothing wrong in trying new things and experimenting, but it was just too much for me.

Currently I hold small investment in SafeDice, they've been around for over a year. Also positive experience so far.

@OP, here's some old investment overview thread that you may find helpful (although it's probably out-of-date):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0

I prefer you to invest your money in betking.io formerly Pocketrocketscasino.eu the site is more trusted and good. Or you can invest in Just-Dice.

That's pretty bad advice. How easy do you think it is to start successful BTC gambling business?

There's plenty of examples of failed sites that never got any traction despite spending quite a lot on promos and advertising.

Bitcoin gambling market is pretty saturated and, due to the scams, people don't trust new sites. So unless you have really unique idea or business plan, starting another dice/poker/casino site is the worst you could do.


Just-Dice is solid and trusted, but they operate in CLAMs, so the biggest risk would probably be the massive swings in CLAM's price.

You should invest on brokers sites that you can use BTC as currency to buy shares

I am gonna go with PrimeDice here, have always struck me as above board and transparent

Except primedice doesn't have investment option. Bankroll is fully funded by Stunna.

Thanks for pointing that out, Pawel7777. It's clearly been a while since I played on PD!

Which site do you like from an investment perspective?

I can only refer you to my signature because not only has it gambling but you can do options trading there too to increase the odds with some form of calculated risk.Good server speeds and decent customer service.Also feel free to join the sig campaign too and earn a little for your posts.

As I wrote before, I've only invested in PRC (now Betking) and SafeDice, both are pretty good from my experience.

MoneyPot.com looks like an interesting concept (one 'global bankroll' for multiple casinos) and have good reputation, but they've changed ownership quite recently which always ads to the risk.

Guys, what you think about invest in SafeDice?

I would recommend to you to try bitcoin, in addition to the appearance and popularity excellent, betcoin also have a fair and client provably good seed, also many giveaway there ;D

I think it is a safe investment. Disclaimer that was just a crappy joke and the reason I am quoting you is to tell you to look into SafeDice and their history and if you feel safe with them, then invest. Never let anyone here on this forum tell you it is a good investment and have that decide it for you. That is a sure fire way to go broke really fast. Use google for its history, search the forum for any accusations and visit the site at the very least.


Please just because a site gives "many give aways" it does not make them a trusted place to invest haha. I never actually knew you could invest there. Do they have a public investment address?

Not bad choice. SafeDice house edge is not fixed: it varies depending on how much player bet, and what the win could be, it increases the safety of all investments by increasing the house edge in instances where players want to win more than 0.25% of the house bankroll. Investors may also use an adjustable risk level to reduce counterparty risk with the site. SafeDice fee is 10% of profit.

Site is nice and simple, but there are some minor glitches from time to time. They've been around for over a year now. Friendly and helpful dev, always responds to any issues but sometimes it takes a day or two.

They keep a low-profile and don't do any spectacular promos, but the activity is on a decent level with new 'high bets' made everyday.

You won't see as much action as on Betking, and bankroll on SD is much lower, but that means you will get higher % of profit for the same amount invested.

Most important is the house edge of only 0.5% (variable), that works in favour of players rather than investors, but there's a chance low HE will attract more big players (as happened few times in the past).

You can choose kelly option for your investment ranging from x0.5 to x10. I'd recommend x1 or x2.

Current site profit is ~0.49% of amount wagered, so slightly below house edge.

Personaly I see SD as a trusted site, but do your own research before putting any big money in it.

Well, safedice is pretty good. They have a tiny bankroll, so you'll make alot from your investments. I don't really like SafeDice though, I've had some bad experiences.

I invest in moneypot, because with them I have some good luck. I've practically multiplied my 0.1 investment by 1.5 now :D

dicebitco.in had already shut down i think a year ago and dice.ninja do have scam accusations yet its still running. so your post is bullshit and definitely posted for the sake of raising your posts count. people should avoid dice.ninja, not recommended. and to op, JD is a good one, they only accept clams though

Both of the sites were biggest dice scams. It's not hard to figure that he was clearly making a joke.

If you haven't yet, you should check out https://bitvest.io/ (https://bitvest.io/)

I think it is not good to invest in gambling.
Because gambling is much more likely that you will lose money.
If you are going to invest in companies the chance that you earn more money.

So which one is it? If gambling means losing money, then investing in gambling site should be profitable. Right?

This logic that makes people interested to invest in gambling sites, yeaa its pretty makes sense.
But you know investing in gambling sites had a bigger risk than any other investment. A risk when noone know the site that we are invested could turn scam anytime except a site who well known and put their real operational address.

The tittle is not clear:
you want gambling or investing?

Title is very clear: Best Gambling Site to Invest In, meaning profiting on gamblers losses.

Tiny bankroll sure have a high risk but if you are in luck I am sure you will get a lot from it. But still it depends on how much you invested in that site. Btw how long that you manage to get 1.5 multiplier?

Bankroll size does not affect the risk if the max profit is adjusted accordingly. So house edge + max profit settings are the 2 things that regulate the level of risk.

I think it is anyway not a good idea if you are going to invest in gambling.

I do not include you a lot of money to get.

I just think you have more money it loses.

why have moeny to lose? Investment in gambling, to long term is every time profitable, the only bad surprised is the scam of gambling owner.
i invest all week a little bit of my bitcoin earn in 3-4 different gambling site and for now i have only earned

I think it is not wise to invest in gambling sites.
This is quite risky because you can be fooled.
But I think it is better to start saving.

I too do not suggest investing into gambling. Investing in gambling is not a good idea..
In gambling sites, earning chance is only 1% out of 100%, making profits from your investment just depends on your Luck..

I am not sure what you are saying there. If you think the gamblers have only 1% chance for making a profit, you should think that the house have 99% of making a profit, shouldn't you?

All gambling sites don't guarantee any profit and it's true that the return is completely dependent on your luck. OP doesn't want to bet but I haven't seen any gambling websites offering any returns without the users betting their money. They promise to give an amount if the user loses else the ones who promise a return are called ponzis.

You need to be aware of the two types of risks involved and make sure you are okay with them. First, the house is expected to win in the long term, but they can still lose significantly in the short to medium term. You can see this happening from time to time on almost every site.  Another type of risk is that the owner could scam your investment partially (by faking a lucky winner) or totally (by pulling an exit scam). Having said that, I have personally invested in Safedice, Moneypot and Justdice atm and they are working okay.

nope, first. I never invest in pocket rocket casino, and I got profit that time
just like gambling, it depends on your luck

Partially I agree on this because if any one invest money in non trusted sites than site admin can fool investors but if you invest in some good reputed sites over the time you may make some profits but investing in casino sites always high risk investments.

I do agree on that, after some time customer support will become a top priority for any gambling site because surely we all will need a some answers from the site while playing or withdrawing money or deposit but if we don't get a fast response than site may not be good to consider for gambling.

I think it is anyway not smart to invest in gambling.
You will lose more money than you win. I also think it's better to start saving..

Well then those investors who made like 100BTC from investing in dice sites are not smart huh? All they have to do is to invest, leave it for a long time and comeback then check if they did make some money.

BTW he is that his investment of .1BTC turned to 1.5BTC and not a multiplier.

bitdice is pretty nice to invest in, their payouts are pretty good.
I think there are a lot that do it and its also easy, but not many people do it at all.

I gamble and also invest with crypto-games. Their minimum amount for investment is 0.01 btc and you can only withdraw after 24 hours.

Not sure what you mean mere but investing in gambling site is completely different from actually gambling.If you invest as in  a gambling sites your profits are determined by the house earnings.At least in the case of Provably fair websites.It is still safer than actual gambling.

How can it doesnt affect the risk? If there is more bankroll sure they will set on higher max profit so if people win it I am sure it will pretty bad for investor. But for investor sure they hope player will lose it so they can earn more. That is why I say it is risky for investor

your luck ? The profit to investment in gambling is to lose of all gamblers. Casino and dice have a house edge and in long term, win evrry time, i don't knon casino closed for bankrupt.

yeah true. the possibility of profit and losing are the same, you could have lost, if the site was experiencing losses, better look for other investments

does this mean if the house loses, like some lucky user wins a big amount, you have to pay the price too?

You must indeed have much luck at gambling. Because I think otherwise it's really a waste of money.
But I think you just have to take those risks.

It is anyway not wise to invest in gambling. You really will lose a lot of money and that's a shame. I think it's better if you just a little bit going to invest.
That is safer, and if you lose you still have money left over.

You adjust max profit to the bankroll proportionally. Few simple examples assuming max bet at 10% of bankroll:

1 - You're invested 10BTC in the site with bankroll of 1000BTC (including your 10BTC).
Player shows up and wins 100BTC (max profit). You lost 10% of your investment (1BTC).

2- You're invested 10BTC in site with 100BTC bankroll.
Player wins max profit bet of 10BTC. You lost exactly the same amount: 1BTC.

3- Invested 10BTC in bankroll of 20BTC. Max bet is 2BTC (10%), player shows up and wins it. You still lose exactly the same.

See it now?

If all the operators apply the same max profit/bankroll ratio, the risk is the same. Bankroll is irrelevant.

What I saw here you are saying this based on one investor. How about if there is a lot of investor? In point 1 each of them is losing 10% of their money? Or that 10% it is divided in all players? And I am sure huge bankroll give a little payout compare to little bankroll, this is made to attract more investor

I think I'm wasting my time here. Go on then, let's see your math. Not to mention first you're saying that small bankroll means higher risk, then you claim the opposite.

choose one that you like most and one that have great reputation, also take a look at games they offer and win %

You mean you want to be part of the house. Try 64blocks.com they had an option if you dont want to play then be part of thehouse, invest on their dice site one of the owner is moderator Dabs.

All the past history of winning will not help in predicting future profits but we can just use it only for reference. Investing in gambling sites is very high risk and profitable but shouldn't invest only in one site instead diversify your investments on few sites to reduce the worst case risks.

I think you're neutral in a gambling site. Because maybe you have confidence that all sites are the same and do not have excess, because you think that all gambling in all sites that you have exactly the same game. But thought you were very wrong, even though all games are given on each site is the same, but each site has a different service and sometimes there is also a site that does not wear a fair system

most of the popular gambling sites are proven that are fair. because out of all these users if they do some shenanigans in the background i am sure it will be found by someone.

and the rest if they are new and not popular then there are curious people who will check their system and report if they are scamming. you can sometimes find topics on here about them.

in my opinion the best gambling website to invest your bitcoins into is just-dice, as the owner of it is pretty reputable

If I was going to invest in a dice-site again, it would be just-dice because of the sense of safety of funds that the owner provides. When it comes to your funds being safe, I would feel safest their of any other site due to past acts of trustworthiness returning btc when needed. (not to say past dictates the future) but gives a very good idea of character.

Saying that you would be investing in an alt coin first and foremost and from their into a dice site. I would not invest in an alt to then invest in a gambling site though. Reason, it would be to easy to manipulate the price either way of a coin with such a small market cap.

If you like a gamble then it is a good choice  :D

I dont really know which is the best but i can give gambling site that you can invest.and the owner is one of the trusted here in our forum.
If you know betking.io they offering to invest your money to their site.

Wasn't the topic Best Gambling Site to Invest In?

Everyone is talking about bankrolling dice, and not actual investment.

I have never played dice or even interested in doing so, but are you not just being the Banker and hoping the players lose.  I relate this to being the Banker in Pia Gow hoping the players get a bad hand, otherwise I have to payout.

So is there a good gambling site to actually invest in? 
Or is it just you gambling by being the bank, and crossing your fingers? 

Hmzz, I think if you do your investment on gambling sites, you will get very little profit, because gambling sites only get a little profit in games and gambling sites also cannot guarantee that they will not be a scam. If you are investing, invest only with exchanger Bitcoin. because it is the most fast and safe to get the profit

How can you confirm that invest in exchanger for bitcoin is safe? How you try it? In my own understanding, the chance for profit is very high in casino as i am an investor in several gambling site. And if you are thinking of getting a high % profit, then i have to say you are just being unrealistic as most of those are ponzi scheme. In fact, casino investment is one of the highest and legitimate ROI investment.

i thing gamble site investment and hyip investment, gamble site is best with compare HYIP
because gamble site have in money income , but hyip nothing income only member ger member
new member pay old member

FoendyZ

Not so sure what the best gambling site is to invest in because they all seem the same to me.
I do not even think that it is a good idea to invest in gambling sites I would rather invest in Bitcoin.

There are gambling sites which i see a good investment is worth it because they have a nice platform of profit gaining and rewards for those new players. One example is 1xbit sportsbook and casino for those players who likes high odds and also waggering options is what i recommend the best site to invest with. It doesn't matter when you take risk in this site, important is your chance is possibly to be yours.

I too will suggest this, the main reason is again the same as the owner is trustworthy.
Also If you analyze the website, It has some very cool features and security..

Good luck.

I think if say reliable or not almost all gambling sites is reliable. I have never heard the gambling site to be a scam and carried off all the money users, so do not be afraid when choosing a gambling site to invest, what matters is the risk of loss when a player can win, so look for gambling site that has a percentage of big profits you can invest there I think there are many sites which provide an overview of the statistical advantage in a gambling site, for example dicesites.com

if you are looking for a good gambling site i would suggest that you invest in directbet  https://www.directbet.eu/ which is an awesome site it offers a varity of ways to gamble from football to casino games the good thing about it is that you don't have to make an account you just go in select your choice send the btc and wait for the results

I think crypto-games.net, you can get up to 0.05 - 1 % in day. ofc there some risks...but...

This is what matters: data. Always do your own research before doing anything like investing into a bitcoin casino (this works very well with many things actually). I would start from https://dicesites.com/
There are no opinions in this subject, only data

not sure where, but currently Im investing at crypto-games

You can also lose the same amount in less then a day. Be very careful and invest only what you can afford to lose.

Yes, if anyone wins big amount then you can also lose a lot of money in a single day in casino investments. That's the reason one shouldn't keep all your funds in any single casino bankroll instead put in few good casinos then your losses may not high if any big win happens on one or two sites.