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Title: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: pereira4 on January 12, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Shogen on January 12, 2016, 04:41:13 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

The two Betcoin sites are unrelated as far as I can tell. Neither of them have ever said anything about the other site, so I have no reason to believe they are related.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: DebitMe on January 12, 2016, 04:41:58 PM
From what I understand, they have different owners and are in no way related.  Just happen to have similar names.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: examplens on January 12, 2016, 04:44:50 PM
and it seemed to me that the same owner, appeared at the same time, with similar name


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Indianacoin on January 12, 2016, 04:49:40 PM
No. Betcoin.AG and Betcoin.TM are totally different sites. I recommend Betcoin.ag as better than Betcoin.tm because they have got a large variety of games to gamble with as well as their community is more diverse and friendly for newcomers.

On the other hand Betcoin.tm has many scam accusations opening up lately and they have shady promotion offers where you either cannot withdraw or lose all your money on gambling. Their site is more laggy too!


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: ajrah on January 12, 2016, 04:56:57 PM
Betcoin.TM is run by Massive Luck Investments Limited while Betcoin.AG is run by DMVCasino's. Not sure who come in first in this forum but Betcoin.AG's account was created Dec 2013. I don't think Betcoin.TM have an account in this forum unlike Betcoin.AG.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Buziss on January 12, 2016, 05:04:03 PM
Betcoin.TM is run by Massive Luck Investments Limited while Betcoin.AG is run by DMVCasino's. Not sure who come in first in this forum but Betcoin.AG's account was created Dec 2013. I don't think Betcoin.TM have an account in this forum unlike Betcoin.AG.

In fact, betcoin.tm does have an account here on bitcointalk. The account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573 was registered way back in Aug 2013.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: cr7 on January 12, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Have two betting sites with the same name but different extension is not a good idea and will make pishing attempts easier and cause lots of confusion.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: examplens on January 12, 2016, 05:50:03 PM


On the other hand Betcoin.tm has many scam accusations opening up lately and they have shady promotion offers where you either cannot withdraw or lose all your money on gambling. Their site is more laggy too!

I do not know what are your experiences, but I paid for all promotion and campaign by betcoin.tm. perhaps there were some delays, but everything is paid.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: piebeyb on January 12, 2016, 08:01:32 PM
I thought it might be just the similarity of the domain name, but for one owner I think somewhat differently :)

Looking from the side of regulation in betcoin.tm site has fairly strict rules seem, betcoin.ag may not like it or it could be betcoin.ag has more stringent regulations than betcoin.tm


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: sherbyspark on January 12, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
Its confusing due to the names. Probably betcointm came first due to the account name on here, but I don't remember seeing them anytime before . Maybe they restarted their website.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: bitcoinpete on January 12, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
I play on betcoin, what other good gambling/poker platforms can you guys recommend?


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: 98789 on January 12, 2016, 08:45:04 PM
Besides the similarity in their names, what else could relate those two sites?, honestly I do not even consider that their templates look any similar (maybe I am bit blind). Betcoin.tm is lately giving away too much and they have a lot of people complaining about bigger withdrawals not been adequately processed, in the other hand, Betcoin.ag does not give away that much but they do have a VIP program (at least the last time I checked Betcoin.tm did not have one, they only had a VIP club with no specifications of how to get into it), some free rolls (depending on your level) and it seems they have a big problem with multi accounts.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: ftwbtc1 on January 12, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
Just looking at the websites, in no way are they related and with both having poker it would not make financial sense for them to compete against each other if they were related.  I do see Betcoin.ag's first account opened in April 2013 and I am not aware of the official Betcoin.tm account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=105794



Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: bitcoinpete on January 12, 2016, 08:53:16 PM
Just looking at the websites, in no way are they related and with both having poker it would not make financial sense for them to compete against each other if they were related.  I do see Betcoin.ag's first account opened in April 2013 and I am not aware of the official Betcoin.tm account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=105794


Betcoin.tm is probably not legit or worth playing on


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on January 12, 2016, 10:57:22 PM
and it seemed to me that the same owner, appeared at the same time, with similar name

You can not just say like that without any evidence and your claim because they appeared at the same time is not a strong evidence to prove them related.
It's just coincidentally in my opinion, their name very similar because you know " betcoin " are a good name for bet + bitcoin mean good market name for people remembered to bet using coin (betcoin).
So far I can't see any argument mentioning they are under same owner and related each other. So they are different.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Peeps Place on January 12, 2016, 11:55:14 PM
I play on betcoin, what other good gambling/poker platforms can you guys recommend?

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxCdBHib.jpg&t=560&c=NvHilMQhUG2Pag


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: patt0 on January 13, 2016, 12:40:38 AM
No. Betcoin.AG and Betcoin.TM are totally different sites. I recommend Betcoin.ag as better than Betcoin.tm because they have got a large variety of games to gamble with as well as their community is more diverse and friendly for newcomers.

On the other hand Betcoin.tm has many scam accusations opening up lately and they have shady promotion offers where you either cannot withdraw or lose all your money on gambling. Their site is more laggy too!

Are you sure about that. I never saw any real scam accusations to either of them. I saw people complaining about late withdrawals in betcoin.ag. I myself had to wait more the 24h to cash out from poker, but for me that is really not a problem and I think when it comes to poker at least, is necessary to validate the withdrawal after verifying there was no problems with collusion etc. On the other hand I never saw any complains about betcoin.tm so far, and like I said no real complains about betcoin.ag as well.

As for the main question in this thread, I also think they are not related at all.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: nickaizoku on January 13, 2016, 12:45:18 AM
No. Betcoin.AG and Betcoin.TM are totally different sites. I recommend Betcoin.ag as better than Betcoin.tm because they have got a large variety of games to gamble with as well as their community is more diverse and friendly for newcomers.

On the other hand Betcoin.tm has many scam accusations opening up lately and they have shady promotion offers where you either cannot withdraw or lose all your money on gambling. Their site is more laggy too!
i never see many scam accusations against betcointm lately?
i personally withdraw alot of time there, since i dont have any issue with multiple account or cheatin,
they withdraw are manual and up to 24hours i guess,
yea saw alot complaining about late payment, but not scam people funds.. :)


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: sukamasoto on January 13, 2016, 01:14:27 AM
i think both of the site are different, from the layout and the game and all design, all of them are different

so i dont think they are related


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Straux on January 13, 2016, 03:02:40 AM
Bitcoin.TM has been established earlier, and has a different layout and color scheme compared to betcoin.ag. I have to say, both signatures for both campaigns have a logo on the left, and all the features listed on the right. Similar, eh? I haven't officially gambled with .ag, but I know that betcoin.TM do pay, unless you have more than one account on their site.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: dodgecharger on January 13, 2016, 04:28:06 AM
I could see both of them being legit and trustworthy. I don't think they are related. Otherwise they don't m
need to run two signature cam. But they have the same name but have different TLD. It wil cause confusion for users. I have the same experience. When ppl mention betcoin, I am always confused with the real one it refers to. It realy affects their branding.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: 23dzmaz on January 13, 2016, 04:47:26 AM
I think no, both sites are different owner. I know the name is same and only the different is on .ag and .tm. but i'm sure it's different. and i think betcoin.ag focus on poker one and betcoin.tm focus on casino.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Sir_lagsalot on January 13, 2016, 05:06:26 AM
I think no, both sites are different owner. I know the name is same and only the different is on .ag and .tm. but i'm sure it's different. and i think betcoin.ag focus on poker one and betcoin.tm focus on casino.
They could have different owners, but maybe the two owners are the same person, or are friends and work together?

Even if they were related, what would be wrong about that? The only problem is if one scams.

If they are related, they'll be like freebitco.in and freedogeco.in


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: paka on January 13, 2016, 05:14:44 AM
I think no, both sites are different owner. I know the name is same and only the different is on .ag and .tm. but i'm sure it's different. and i think betcoin.ag focus on poker one and betcoin.tm focus on casino.
They could have different owners, but maybe the two owners are the same person, or are friends and work together?

Even if they were related, what would be wrong about that? The only problem is if one scams.

If they are related, they'll be like freebitco.in and freedogeco.in

Dude, Betcoin.Ag has more good features and design than .tm if they are highly unlikely related to each other


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: pereira4 on January 14, 2016, 07:35:28 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies. So from what i've gathered they are two totally different business, since they are registered under different names. Well this doesn't ultimately prove that they aren't the same people tho, but it seems this is it the case.

Im just wondering what would happen if one of the two registered the name "Betcoin", I guess this could bring problems to the one doesn't register it first.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Boosterious on January 15, 2016, 05:37:17 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.
as people sid,that two site is not related,and mybe they just have similar name,or maybe one of them just cheat the name,we dont know about that. but i think betcoin.tm is more succesfull and more popular,so dont confuse to decide your favortite site.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: camelson on January 15, 2016, 05:41:48 PM
I think they are Two different , Because I check their Online chat Service once at a Time, I have some queries, and want to chat, I go to both the Site and saw that betcoin.tm service is fast and betcoin.ag online chat service is somewhat slow. If they are same, they must have as i think chat service response.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: takingthis4 on January 15, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
as far as i know they are not connected in any ways, they are really different and i like to play and wager my money on both of them


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: pjsonowal on January 15, 2016, 05:48:54 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

Yeah they both are different. Betcoin.ag has server in Netherland and Betcoin.tm is a website set up by chinesse guys


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: busybee7 on January 15, 2016, 06:55:35 PM
i think that the websites owners are different, i really like betcoin.tm though i have never tried gambling my money on betcoin.ag, i think i will have to try it out later


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: pereira4 on January 15, 2016, 07:16:07 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

Yeah they both are different. Betcoin.ag has server in Netherland and Betcoin.tm is a website set up by chinesse guys

Well, then I know im promoting the right one. No disrespect to the Chinese guys, but you know, after so many scams coming from China related to Bitcoin, I don't now what to believe anymore, so I would rather believe a country that's part of the Eurozone/USA or western world in general, than a Chinese one.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: phreaky on January 15, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

Yeah they both are different. Betcoin.ag has server in Netherland and Betcoin.tm is a website set up by chinesse guys

Well, then I know im promoting the right one. No disrespect to the Chinese guys, but you know, after so many scams coming from China related to Bitcoin, I don't now what to believe anymore, so I would rather believe a country that's part of the Eurozone/USA or western world in general, than a Chinese one.

Maybe you can't trust that much in the Asian country or other ones, but you need also to be careful that Eurozone/USA also can be a hard scam too. Is not really what country you can trust is just better to know what are the review and what is the experience from the people have.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: JeWay on January 15, 2016, 10:38:58 PM
No, they're not even related at all. Maybe the has the same name on the domain, but i think it was just a coincidence


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Slark on January 15, 2016, 10:54:06 PM
Just looking at the websites, in no way are they related and with both having poker it would not make financial sense for them to compete against each other if they were related.  I do see Betcoin.ag's first account opened in April 2013 and I am not aware of the official Betcoin.tm account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=105794


Betcoin.tm is probably not legit or worth playing on
Just because some casino has no official bitcointalk account is so important and because that you consider them untrustworthy?
That is not solid ground to build your arguments on. Betcoin.tm seems very professional and legit imo.

Anyway: here is official Bitcoin.tm account AFAIK - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573)


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: bitgolden on January 16, 2016, 05:14:23 PM
I really do not think so because if so, why would they not rather take a new domain than just using the sae domain with other extension. I love both sites though and I big fan of casino.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: iv4n on January 16, 2016, 05:19:21 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

I play on both site's and in my opinion they are different in many things. Also I don't think they are related in any other way. But maybe I'm wrong, as I can see no one knows for sure.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: pereira4 on January 16, 2016, 05:28:20 PM
I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

Yeah they both are different. Betcoin.ag has server in Netherland and Betcoin.tm is a website set up by chinesse guys

Well, then I know im promoting the right one. No disrespect to the Chinese guys, but you know, after so many scams coming from China related to Bitcoin, I don't now what to believe anymore, so I would rather believe a country that's part of the Eurozone/USA or western world in general, than a Chinese one.

Maybe you can't trust that much in the Asian country or other ones, but you need also to be careful that Eurozone/USA also can be a hard scam too. Is not really what country you can trust is just better to know what are the review and what is the experience from the people have.

True, but usually it's better to trust countries that have a more smooth policy about Bitcoin. Let's remind that in China Bitcoin is not fully legal, it's in some sort of grey area, whereas in Eurozone they clecared it even VAT free so that is always a big plus when it comes to trust.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: treeguard on January 16, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
i highly doubt that the websites are related in any ways and i honestly think that the owners of those sites are different people, so most probably they are not associated


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: Peeps Place on January 16, 2016, 08:12:16 PM
i highly doubt that the websites are related in any ways and i honestly think that the owners of those sites are different people, so most probably they are not associated
true. They are separate entities with no type of relationship.


Title: Re: Are Betcoin.ag and Betcoin.tm gambling sites related?
Post by: hua_hui on May 01, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
well they are diff as far as i know as they have different server and way of functioning. And betcoin is actually quite a popular and good name for a gambling site. So i am not surprise to see 2 of them fighting for the same name.