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I have been checking out the website of the signature campaign I just joined recently, and I was confused when I saw other guys promoting Betcoin, but the avatar and fonts looked different, then I realized it's two different websites, one ends in ag and other in tm, both have a similar layout but colors are different... I can't find any info of them being related or not, im just curious to know about this so let me know.

The two Betcoin sites are unrelated as far as I can tell. Neither of them have ever said anything about the other site, so I have no reason to believe they are related.

From what I understand, they have different owners and are in no way related.  Just happen to have similar names.

and it seemed to me that the same owner, appeared at the same time, with similar name

No. Betcoin.AG and Betcoin.TM are totally different sites. I recommend Betcoin.ag as better than Betcoin.tm because they have got a large variety of games to gamble with as well as their community is more diverse and friendly for newcomers.

On the other hand Betcoin.tm has many scam accusations opening up lately and they have shady promotion offers where you either cannot withdraw or lose all your money on gambling. Their site is more laggy too!

Betcoin.TM is run by Massive Luck Investments Limited while Betcoin.AG is run by DMVCasino's. Not sure who come in first in this forum but Betcoin.AG's account was created Dec 2013. I don't think Betcoin.TM have an account in this forum unlike Betcoin.AG.

In fact, betcoin.tm does have an account here on bitcointalk. The account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573 was registered way back in Aug 2013.

Have two betting sites with the same name but different extension is not a good idea and will make pishing attempts easier and cause lots of confusion.

I do not know what are your experiences, but I paid for all promotion and campaign by betcoin.tm. perhaps there were some delays, but everything is paid.

I thought it might be just the similarity of the domain name, but for one owner I think somewhat differently :)

Looking from the side of regulation in betcoin.tm site has fairly strict rules seem, betcoin.ag may not like it or it could be betcoin.ag has more stringent regulations than betcoin.tm

Its confusing due to the names. Probably betcointm came first due to the account name on here, but I don't remember seeing them anytime before . Maybe they restarted their website.

I play on betcoin, what other good gambling/poker platforms can you guys recommend?

Just looking at the websites, in no way are they related and with both having poker it would not make financial sense for them to compete against each other if they were related.  I do see Betcoin.ag's first account opened in April 2013 and I am not aware of the official Betcoin.tm account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=105794

Betcoin.tm is probably not legit or worth playing on

You can not just say like that without any evidence and your claim because they appeared at the same time is not a strong evidence to prove them related.
It's just coincidentally in my opinion, their name very similar because you know " betcoin " are a good name for bet + bitcoin mean good market name for people remembered to bet using coin (betcoin).
So far I can't see any argument mentioning they are under same owner and related each other. So they are different.

Are you sure about that. I never saw any real scam accusations to either of them. I saw people complaining about late withdrawals in betcoin.ag. I myself had to wait more the 24h to cash out from poker, but for me that is really not a problem and I think when it comes to poker at least, is necessary to validate the withdrawal after verifying there was no problems with collusion etc. On the other hand I never saw any complains about betcoin.tm so far, and like I said no real complains about betcoin.ag as well.

As for the main question in this thread, I also think they are not related at all.

i never see many scam accusations against betcointm lately?
i personally withdraw alot of time there, since i dont have any issue with multiple account or cheatin,
they withdraw are manual and up to 24hours i guess,
yea saw alot complaining about late payment, but not scam people funds.. :)

i think both of the site are different, from the layout and the game and all design, all of them are different

so i dont think they are related

Bitcoin.TM has been established earlier, and has a different layout and color scheme compared to betcoin.ag. I have to say, both signatures for both campaigns have a logo on the left, and all the features listed on the right. Similar, eh? I haven't officially gambled with .ag, but I know that betcoin.TM do pay, unless you have more than one account on their site.

I could see both of them being legit and trustworthy. I don't think they are related. Otherwise they don't m
need to run two signature cam. But they have the same name but have different TLD. It wil cause confusion for users. I have the same experience. When ppl mention betcoin, I am always confused with the real one it refers to. It realy affects their branding.

I think no, both sites are different owner. I know the name is same and only the different is on .ag and .tm. but i'm sure it's different. and i think betcoin.ag focus on poker one and betcoin.tm focus on casino.

They could have different owners, but maybe the two owners are the same person, or are friends and work together?

Even if they were related, what would be wrong about that? The only problem is if one scams.

If they are related, they'll be like freebitco.in and freedogeco.in

Dude, Betcoin.Ag has more good features and design than .tm if they are highly unlikely related to each other

Thanks everyone for your replies. So from what i've gathered they are two totally different business, since they are registered under different names. Well this doesn't ultimately prove that they aren't the same people tho, but it seems this is it the case.

Im just wondering what would happen if one of the two registered the name "Betcoin", I guess this could bring problems to the one doesn't register it first.

as people sid,that two site is not related,and mybe they just have similar name,or maybe one of them just cheat the name,we dont know about that. but i think betcoin.tm is more succesfull and more popular,so dont confuse to decide your favortite site.

I think they are Two different , Because I check their Online chat Service once at a Time, I have some queries, and want to chat, I go to both the Site and saw that betcoin.tm service is fast and betcoin.ag online chat service is somewhat slow. If they are same, they must have as i think chat service response.

as far as i know they are not connected in any ways, they are really different and i like to play and wager my money on both of them

Yeah they both are different. Betcoin.ag has server in Netherland and Betcoin.tm is a website set up by chinesse guys

i think that the websites owners are different, i really like betcoin.tm though i have never tried gambling my money on betcoin.ag, i think i will have to try it out later

Well, then I know im promoting the right one. No disrespect to the Chinese guys, but you know, after so many scams coming from China related to Bitcoin, I don't now what to believe anymore, so I would rather believe a country that's part of the Eurozone/USA or western world in general, than a Chinese one.

Maybe you can't trust that much in the Asian country or other ones, but you need also to be careful that Eurozone/USA also can be a hard scam too. Is not really what country you can trust is just better to know what are the review and what is the experience from the people have.

No, they're not even related at all. Maybe the has the same name on the domain, but i think it was just a coincidence

Just because some casino has no official bitcointalk account is so important and because that you consider them untrustworthy?
That is not solid ground to build your arguments on. Betcoin.tm seems very professional and legit imo.

Anyway: here is official Bitcoin.tm account AFAIK - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573)

I really do not think so because if so, why would they not rather take a new domain than just using the sae domain with other extension. I love both sites though and I big fan of casino.

I play on both site's and in my opinion they are different in many things. Also I don't think they are related in any other way. But maybe I'm wrong, as I can see no one knows for sure.

True, but usually it's better to trust countries that have a more smooth policy about Bitcoin. Let's remind that in China Bitcoin is not fully legal, it's in some sort of grey area, whereas in Eurozone they clecared it even VAT free so that is always a big plus when it comes to trust.

i highly doubt that the websites are related in any ways and i honestly think that the owners of those sites are different people, so most probably they are not associated

true. They are separate entities with no type of relationship.

well they are diff as far as i know as they have different server and way of functioning. And betcoin is actually quite a popular and good name for a gambling site. So i am not surprise to see 2 of them fighting for the same name.