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Economy => Web Wallets => Topic started by: sellaccount99 on January 18, 2016, 12:39:56 PM



Title: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: sellaccount99 on January 18, 2016, 12:39:56 PM
I have 2 transaction which are not getting confirmed.

https://blockchain.info/tx/15f21b3a29d1cc91c8d2121b5a72c928f284023de53d49130e360ab2c1c8551c

https://blockchain.info/tx/48df837926aaa897a10d40ee2ca8d2d88044fef1107632f739113112e8134f69

is this blockchain problem or something else??

this transaction too-

https://blockchain.info/tx/39a22fc47e879d16a307b3cb3cc1a742fa35daabb7d25ea079ce396a5e6b041f


Plz help!!


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: Naoko on January 18, 2016, 12:54:57 PM
The inputs of the those transactions isnt confirmed yet, you have to wait until inputs got confirmed first then your trans could get confirmed too


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: sellaccount99 on January 18, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
The inputs of the those transactions isnt confirmed yet, you have to wait until inputs got confirmed first then your trans could get confirmed too
I didn't understand, can you explain more in detail? How long can this take to confirm the input?
What causes these type of problems??


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: Loimu on January 18, 2016, 01:13:22 PM
Your fee has been so small that these transactions have taken more time to process than usually. There is no 'problem' of any kind - pay less, get slower translations. Nobody can tell you the exact time when it gets confirmed but that should be soon.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: shorena on January 18, 2016, 01:16:02 PM
The inputs of the those transactions isnt confirmed yet, you have to wait until inputs got confirmed first then your trans could get confirmed too
I didn't understand, can you explain more in detail? How long can this take to confirm the input?
What causes these type of problems??

The ponzi you expect payment from has bad software to handle the payments. They use unconfirmed coins to create a TX on top of it. The TX on top can only confirm when the earlier is confirmed. This can be in the same block.

Lets take "bx2.club --> rajat08" as an example. In blockchain.info's advanced view[1] you can see a little red "U" for unconfirmed. If you click on the link labeled as "output" next to it you will see another TX, which is unconfirmed. The chain of unconfirmed transactions that depend on eachother in this case is rather long. I would suggest you stop using the shitty service that created the TX, but seeing that it is a ponzi I have little hope for you.

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/15f21b3a29d1cc91c8d2121b5a72c928f284023de53d49130e360ab2c1c8551c?show_adv=true



Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: shorena on January 18, 2016, 01:17:05 PM
Your fee has been so small that these transactions have taken more time to process than usually. There is no 'problem' of any kind - pay less, get slower translations. Nobody can tell you the exact time when it gets confirmed but that should be soon.

Did you even look at the TX?

10000 Satoshi for 226 - 373 byte transactions is perfectly fine fee wise.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: sellaccount99 on January 18, 2016, 01:21:10 PM
The inputs of the those transactions isnt confirmed yet, you have to wait until inputs got confirmed first then your trans could get confirmed too
I didn't understand, can you explain more in detail? How long can this take to confirm the input?
What causes these type of problems??

The ponzi you expect payment from has bad software to handle the payments. They use unconfirmed coins to create a TX on top of it. The TX on top can only confirm when the earlier is confirmed. This can be in the same block.

Lets take "bx2.club --> rajat08" as an example. In blockchain.info's advanced view[1] you can see a little red "U" for unconfirmed. If you click on the link labeled as "output" next to it you will see another TX, which is unconfirmed. The chain of unconfirmed transactions that depend on eachother in this case is rather long. I would suggest you stop using the shitty service that created the TX, but seeing that it is a ponzi I have little hope for you.

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/15f21b3a29d1cc91c8d2121b5a72c928f284023de53d49130e360ab2c1c8551c?show_adv=true


Whats the best way to get out of this??


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: shorena on January 18, 2016, 01:29:51 PM
The inputs of the those transactions isnt confirmed yet, you have to wait until inputs got confirmed first then your trans could get confirmed too
I didn't understand, can you explain more in detail? How long can this take to confirm the input?
What causes these type of problems??

The ponzi you expect payment from has bad software to handle the payments. They use unconfirmed coins to create a TX on top of it. The TX on top can only confirm when the earlier is confirmed. This can be in the same block.

Lets take "bx2.club --> rajat08" as an example. In blockchain.info's advanced view[1] you can see a little red "U" for unconfirmed. If you click on the link labeled as "output" next to it you will see another TX, which is unconfirmed. The chain of unconfirmed transactions that depend on eachother in this case is rather long. I would suggest you stop using the shitty service that created the TX, but seeing that it is a ponzi I have little hope for you.

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/15f21b3a29d1cc91c8d2121b5a72c928f284023de53d49130e360ab2c1c8551c?show_adv=true


Whats the best way to get out of this??

Dont use services that have shitty software to handle payments. Its not your responsibility to fix their software. The only thing you could do now is to follow the chain to the first unconfirmed transactions (it forks off into at least two chains after a while). Once you have a nice list of transactions, get the raw formated version and broadcast them via a website that allows you to do so. From the last instance I have see, I think you can easily expect >>400 transactions to be involved. Might take a few hours by hand.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: sellaccount99 on January 18, 2016, 01:36:08 PM
@shorena-okay.got your point. By making new address in my wallet will it not create any issue??


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: shorena on January 18, 2016, 01:41:22 PM
@shorena-okay.got your point. By making new address in my wallet will it not create any issue??

No, but you should not create a new transaction that needs the funds from the above transaction(s). Creating new addresses are not an issue.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: sellaccount99 on January 18, 2016, 01:50:22 PM
@shorena-okay.got your point. By making new address in my wallet will it not create any issue??

No, but you should not create a new transaction that needs the funds from the above transaction(s). Creating new addresses are not an issue.
So you mean making new address in my wallet of blockchain will not resolve the issue.is that you meant??

I want to do some transactions. I need some address to send or receive bitcoins.
I will not use the address 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF to do any transaction.

Give me best solution.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: shorena on January 18, 2016, 02:13:29 PM
@shorena-okay.got your point. By making new address in my wallet will it not create any issue??

No, but you should not create a new transaction that needs the funds from the above transaction(s). Creating new addresses are not an issue.
So you mean making new address in my wallet of blockchain will not resolve the issue.is that you meant??

I want to do some transactions. I need some address to send or receive bitcoins.
I will not use the address 1CqYkCjZThQotjXn1h7yVVCCxDt7nGdLvF to do any transaction.

Give me best solution.

As I said above, stop using shitty services. There is no issue on your end, so you cant fix it. The person that made the transaction needs to change their software.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on January 19, 2016, 05:57:40 AM
I give up with blockchain service, it's need more developing and an expert developer to manage. Too much problem with their services, especially their wallet service. I suggested to stop using their wallet.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: sellaccount99 on January 19, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
I give up with blockchain service, it's need more developing and an expert developer to manage. Too much problem with their services, especially their wallet service. I suggested to stop using their wallet.
what other wallet you will suggest to newbies instead of blockchain??


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: achow101 on January 19, 2016, 12:40:47 PM
I give up with blockchain service, it's need more developing and an expert developer to manage. Too much problem with their services, especially their wallet service. I suggested to stop using their wallet.
what other wallet you will suggest to newbies instead of blockchain??
Use a desktop wallet like Electrum.


Title: Re: blockchain problem or not??
Post by: shorena on January 19, 2016, 12:41:49 PM
I give up with blockchain service, it's need more developing and an expert developer to manage. Too much problem with their services, especially their wallet service. I suggested to stop using their wallet.
what other wallet you will suggest to newbies instead of blockchain??
Use a desktop wallet like Electrum.

...or MultibitHD which was made with beginners in mind.