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Title: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Simran on January 11, 2013, 03:23:51 AM
I just watched this video while I was at the doctor, and I found it ridiculous as to what he was ranting about. He's asking his fellow "patriots" to join him to start a "revolution" against the government because Obama is trying to get Assault weapons banned, and have stricter gun laws. At the end of the video, he threatens to kill innocent people if "it goes inch farther". I went ahead and did a small vlog, don't worry, the actual video plays first.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE[/youtube]

What do you guys think? He hasn't been arrested. And who knows what he's planning to do!

Name: James Yeager
Company: Tactical Response
Position: CEO

I didn't look him up much, like as to where he lives, but if you want to post this around, go ahead! Something needs to be done!

Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

--Simran

His second video:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2kkax7WOKI[/youtube]
/Discuss


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: MysteryMiner on January 11, 2013, 03:27:29 AM
Quote
Something needs to be done!
Probably joining him in the revolution?


https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/5/5b/Weegeshot.jpg


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: myrkul on January 11, 2013, 03:42:41 AM
“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”

 - Thomas Jefferson, who would today be branded a terrorist and probably killed with a drone.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 04:06:54 AM
Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

lmao

can't do it  :D :D :D
This wouldn't be as hilarious if the guy who made the yt video wouldn't look like a stereotypical neckbeard basement dweller and the guy with the rant the stereotypical gun-nut badass.   ;D


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Simran on January 11, 2013, 04:27:55 AM
Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

lmao

can't do it  :D :D :D
This wouldn't be as hilarious if the guy who made the yt video wouldn't look like a stereotypical neckbeard basement dweller and the guy with the rant the stereotypical gun-nut badass.   ;D

LOL look at the comments! xD I'm arguing with every single one of them! They're all crazy. Probably sock puppets of that guy who made the original video! xD


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: DiCE1904 on January 11, 2013, 04:30:22 AM
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Something needs to be done!
Probably joining him in the revolution?


https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/5/5b/Weegeshot.jpg

agreed


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: deeplink on January 11, 2013, 04:51:41 AM
They're all crazy. Probably sock puppets of that guy who made the original video! xD

Either that or they see things more clearly than you do.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 04:53:24 AM
Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

lmao

can't do it  :D :D :D
This wouldn't be as hilarious if the guy who made the yt video wouldn't look like a stereotypical neckbeard basement dweller and the guy with the rant the stereotypical gun-nut badass.   ;D

LOL look at the comments! xD I'm arguing with every single one of them! They're all crazy. Probably sock puppets of that guy who made the original video! xD

I haven't realized that is actually you.
That is awkward.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: bbit on January 11, 2013, 05:01:38 AM
wow, just wow haha  ;D


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: myrkul on January 11, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

lmao

can't do it  :D :D :D
This wouldn't be as hilarious if the guy who made the yt video wouldn't look like a stereotypical neckbeard basement dweller and the guy with the rant the stereotypical gun-nut badass.   ;D

LOL look at the comments! xD I'm arguing with every single one of them! They're all crazy. Probably sock puppets of that guy who made the original video! xD

(as an aside, you know he just called you a "neckbeard basement dweller," right?)

To respond to your responses in the video:

"Against who, you going to be shooting people who look like Obama, or what?"

No, not against people who look like Obama. Against those who follow his unconstitutional orders.

"Backpack full of food? You going to go out into the woods? As if a legislator is just going to be passing by?"

Do us all (yourself included) a favor, and read the history of the revolutionary war. Hell, any war. "An army travels on it's stomach." Food is important if you're going to be away from home, say, on a road trip, for a little while. And if Obama passes this law via Executive order, who in their right mind would blame a legislator?

"It goes one inch further, he's going to start killing people, innocent people."

No, numbnuts. Guilty people. The people who follow Obama's orders blindly.

In short, you need to get a few years under your belt, and learn about reality a little bit. People like that guy founded this country, fought and died for you to have the right to spout that idiotic nonsense. He's not stating that he's going to go on a rampage, he's going to start another revolution.

Another quote from Jefferson:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 05:05:48 AM
Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

lmao

can't do it  :D :D :D
This wouldn't be as hilarious if the guy who made the yt video wouldn't look like a stereotypical neckbeard basement dweller and the guy with the rant the stereotypical gun-nut badass.   ;D

LOL look at the comments! xD I'm arguing with every single one of them! They're all crazy. Probably sock puppets of that guy who made the original video! xD

(as an aside, you know he just called you a "neckbeard basement dweller," right?)


If he's really 16 it's all right I guess :)


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: myrkul on January 11, 2013, 06:45:56 AM
Now, to clarify my position, just to be sure nobody gets confused:

As an Agorist, I can't condone violent revolution. Not only has it never produced lasting liberty (~230 odd years is a pretty good run, but you gotta admit, it was downhill from the beginning), but it just makes very poor tactical and strategic sense right now. Defending from a position of weakness is a sure recipe for defeat. And you will not be remembered as heroes, but as terrorists.

"Avoid the enemy for the time being when he is stronger." - Sun Tzu


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: laughingbear on January 11, 2013, 07:11:02 AM
"Against who, you going to be shooting people who look like Obama, or what?"

clever use of the race card.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Lethn on January 11, 2013, 08:46:30 AM
While I'm against racist morons and will gladly stop them should they ever try to kill innocent people I want to know what it was this guy actually said, because the thing is there are people out there particularly in the mainstream media who seriously overreact to things gun owners do, for instance I think it was at the tea party protests there was this guy who was simply standing there calmly with an assault rifle with a sign going on about a Jefferson quote involving blood ( forgotten which one it was exactly lol may have been the tree of liberty one :P ) and all the guy was doing was standing there while the media went ballistic claiming he was a psycho.

If it is a serious one, I must ask any right wing nut cases, please don't drag innocent bystanders into your fights you lazy cowards and go pick a fight with a real enemy.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Transisto on January 11, 2013, 10:41:31 AM
I think such terrorist plot could have been good but he failed by having posted it with his face public. He's obviously not serious, move along...

Ps : Don't start a post with "while I was at the doctor" or please explain why it matters in the slightest ?


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Simran on January 11, 2013, 01:18:24 PM
"Against who, you going to be shooting people who look like Obama, or what?"

clever use of the race card.

It was nothing of race, I simply said, people that look like Obama. He says "If it goes one inch further, I'm gonna start killing people!".. people is plural word, so he doesn't plan to kill just one person, but several. In this case, I'm sure he'd want to kill Obama for passing this law, but when he says people, who else? Nothing else to kill once you've killed Obama himself, but people that look like him, and I didn't mean all black people, I meant people that literally look like Obama. Unless you want to be the racist thinking one and assume that all black people look like Obama, then go ahead.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: justusranvier on January 11, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
Agent provocateur


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Simran on January 11, 2013, 01:22:27 PM
Agent provocateur

Wow, I didn't even know such a position existed. That's kinda scary. It's kinda like entrapment.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Simran on January 11, 2013, 01:30:53 PM
Can't see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_cC73crhE

lmao

can't do it  :D :D :D
This wouldn't be as hilarious if the guy who made the yt video wouldn't look like a stereotypical neckbeard basement dweller and the guy with the rant the stereotypical gun-nut badass.   ;D

LOL look at the comments! xD I'm arguing with every single one of them! They're all crazy. Probably sock puppets of that guy who made the original video! xD

(as an aside, you know he just called you a "neckbeard basement dweller," right?)

To respond to your responses in the video:

"Against who, you going to be shooting people who look like Obama, or what?"

No, not against people who look like Obama. Against those who follow his unconstitutional orders.

"Backpack full of food? You going to go out into the woods? As if a legislator is just going to be passing by?"

Do us all (yourself included) a favor, and read the history of the revolutionary war. Hell, any war. "An army travels on it's stomach." Food is important if you're going to be away from home, say, on a road trip, for a little while. And if Obama passes this law via Executive order, who in their right mind would blame a legislator?

"It goes one inch further, he's going to start killing people, innocent people."

No, numbnuts. Guilty people. The people who follow Obama's orders blindly.

In short, you need to get a few years under your belt, and learn about reality a little bit. People like that guy founded this country, fought and died for you to have the right to spout that idiotic nonsense. He's not stating that he's going to go on a rampage, he's going to start another revolution.

Another quote from Jefferson:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Majority of the rules now aren't probably even needed. I'm sure they fought for me, and created a wonderful country, that doesn't mean all the rules that were applied over 200 hundred years ago are still needed now. We're in 2013 for crying out loud, not 1776. Stop living in the past! You guys are getting mad over one fucking right you have, even then, I don't think founding fathers even knew about assault weapons. Handguns and semis will still remain legal. This is why we elect people, to make change. If people didn't want change, then why the fuck do we have a government? We could follow the by the constitution. It's just a fucking paper, that's all! You expect the government to oversee a fucking paper? In my opinion, we have too much freedom, and when you guys can't do what you want, you do stupid shit! Okay, you don't like dictators and don't believe in one, okay so when you have your next child don't be his/her parents. If you don't decide to keep the child, you're going to be a dictator, and probably goes against what you believe in. This clearly comes to show how ignorant people are! Founding fathers is just an overused excuse. They fought for me? They fought and took over a land that wasn't even theirs to begin with.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Anon136 on January 11, 2013, 01:38:31 PM
Now, to clarify my position, just to be sure nobody gets confused:

As an Agorist, I can't condone violent revolution. Not only has it never produced lasting liberty (~230 odd years is a pretty good run, but you gotta admit, it was downhill from the beginning), but it just makes very poor tactical and strategic sense right now. Defending from a position of weakness is a sure recipe for defeat. And you will not be remembered as heroes, but as terrorists.

"Avoid the enemy for the time being when he is stronger." - Sun Tzu

Yes you are absolutely right using violence right now would be tactically unsound. But is should be noted that eventually the time for violence will come. Once 80% of the population is libertarian but 20% is still running around with guns trying to tell everyone what to do the time will eventually come to say to that 20% "get the fuck off my property before I get physical".


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: deeplink on January 11, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
Damn Simran, if you are the future I should probably kill myself.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: Simran on January 11, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
Damn Simran, if you are the future I should probably kill myself.

LOL alright. Go for it! :P


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: myrkul on January 11, 2013, 05:35:33 PM
Let me break it down for you, son.

Majority of the rules now aren't probably even needed. I'm sure they fought for me, and created a wonderful country, that doesn't mean all the rules that were applied over 200 hundred years ago are still needed now. We're in 2013 for crying out loud, not 1776. Stop living in the past!
I see this a lot liberal retards who don't like to think for themselves. Congratulations, you can use a calendar. However, rights do not go out of style. Your right to free speech is what allows you to spout this BS. What protects that right? It's not the piece of paper that it's written on. It's the ability to defend yourself from people who would stop you from speaking out. What provides that? Your right to keep and bear arms.

You guys are getting mad over one fucking right you have, even then, I don't think founding fathers even knew about assault weapons. Handguns and semis will still remain legal.
Of course the founding fathers didn't know about assault rifles. They didn't know about YouTube, either. You think the 1st amendment allows you to own an 18th century printing press and quill pens?

This is why we elect people, to make change. If people didn't want change, then why the fuck do we have a government? We could follow the by the constitution. It's just a fucking paper, that's all!
Indeed it is. But set down upon that paper are some really good ideas about how to limit government, and it's true and only purpose: to protect the rights of those it governs. Now, as an anarchist, I recognize that government can not exist without violating those rights, and so better guards should be selected, but that's beside the point at the moment.

You expect the government to oversee a fucking paper? In my opinion, we have too much freedom, and when you guys can't do what you want, you do stupid shit!
If you don't like the freedoms here in the US, you're welcome to go the fuck back to India or Pakistan (Singh could be from either country). Ask your parents (or grandparents) why they came here.

Okay, you don't like dictators and don't believe in one, okay so when you have your next child don't be his/her parents. If you don't decide to keep the child, you're going to be a dictator, and probably goes against what you believe in.
You haven't been following the childrearing discussions here lately, have you?

This clearly comes to show how ignorant people are! Founding fathers is just an overused excuse. They fought for me? They fought and took over a land that wasn't even theirs to begin with.
Maybe they weren't very nice to the natives, I'll agree. They owned slaves, too, some of them. Does that automatically invalidate their ideas? Nope, sure doesn't.

I'm serious. Somewhere up your family tree are some immigrants. Talk to them about why they came here. Bonus points if they're Sikh. When you're done, visit this page: http://a-human-right.com/


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: darkmule on January 11, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”

 - Thomas Jefferson, who would today be branded a terrorist and probably killed with a drone.

Notoriously fake quote.  Invented in 2007 by Matt Carson and never seen before then.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: myrkul on January 11, 2013, 06:17:45 PM
“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”

 - Thomas Jefferson, who would today be branded a terrorist and probably killed with a drone.

Notoriously fake quote.  Invented in 2007 by Matt Carson and never seen before then.

Well, shit.

Allow me to replace it, then with this one, verified with Monticello.org this time:
"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."

and this one, from the same letter:
"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem."
(I prefer dangerous freedom to peaceful slavery)


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 11, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
What needs to be mentioned here is that the whole assault weapon ban debate is mainly a symbolic issue. Most full automatic weapons are banned everywhere in the world already, so the (at least partial) availability of those mainly a pedant for "individual rights" in the US, or as you will an advantage over other nations.

The irony is that technical progress in arms has shifted the balance way out of proportion anyway. Nobody living within internationally recognized legislations is allowed to own real war machinery anyway.


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: myrkul on January 11, 2013, 07:49:42 PM
What needs to be mentioned here is that the whole assault weapon ban debate is mainly a symbolic issue.

So was that thing about the tea. ;)


Title: Re: Guy THREATENS to KILL PEOPLE if stricter gun laws are passed! VIDEO!
Post by: TheButterZone on January 11, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
Considering criminals are also threatening to kill and maim people if stricter gun laws AREN'T passed (against law-abiding victims, for criminals' safety), and major figures in the civil rights/gun rights movement have died under incredibly suspicious circumstances (while tyrants don't have to worry in the least that they will ever be assassinated, because good people don't kill bad people with premeditation, ONLY the other way around), it seems we may be moving from cold civil war towards hot civil war (at least according to a trend-watcher I know who is typically far less pessimistic than me).