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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Announcements (Altcoins) => Topic started by: qora.team on February 09, 2016, 05:41:44 PM



Title: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 09, 2016, 05:41:44 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ICaKCj5.png

http://i.imgur.com/U4coAig.png


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Qora is a new 2nd generation cryptocurrency designed from the ground up to solve Bitcoin’s biggest problems while also adding new promising features.
Qora is being built from scratch and will not rely on any other crypto-currency.
Qora uses a new proof-of-stake algorithm making it future-proof.
Qora is being developed in Java.
Qora relied on an IPO for initial distribution of the supply. The total amount of Qora in existence is 10'000'000'000 (10 Billion).
One Qora has 8 digits after the decimal point.





http://i.imgur.com/QeFVpSr.gif

Make sure you download the latest version currently 0.26.0.

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.26.0



ALTERNATIVE DOWNLOADS

QORA universal wallet download hosted by crowetic https://cloud.crowetic.com/s/KyzVZpmAXlBwlTM

QORA blockchain sync'd as of August 25th, 2016 - https://cloud.crowetic.com/s/IDzrYBiqXnhNCvg


The universal wallet is recommended right now for all users, as there is an issue with the windows wallet that is being fixed. Thanks!





http://i.imgur.com/GxhxeM0.gif


Ed25519 DSA to verify and sign messages.
5 minute block time depending on the network activity.
Retargeting every 10 blocks.
Deterministic and Password protected wallets that can be recovered/generated from seeds.
New Proof-of-Stake algorithm.
A REST API to directly communicate with the client.
Naming Service: allows the user to register a key-value pair which can be used for various purposes (URLS, addresses, …).
This Naming Service will also include an exchange where users can buy and sell keys.

Voting System: Allows voting inside the client to make community decisions such as which feature will be implemented next.
Arbitrary Transactions: a simple feature which allows users to send any payload they want over the network.
This can be used by third-parties to build additional features on top of Qora (chat, ...).

Assets: assets with asset/asset trading pairs.
Encrypted Messenger: messages are encrypted standard AES256.
Dezentralized Web: decentralized Web.
Social Network: decentralized Social Network.
Automated Transactions: http://ciyam.org/at/




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Qora is full open source. This means people are able to compile a working client without any restrictions or hidden bugs.

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora





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 skerberus
 vbcs
 extended team





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Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora)
ccedk.com (https://www.ccedk.com/qora-btc)
Bter (https://bter.com/trade/qora_btc) - Wallet not working at the moment. You should refrain from using.




http://i.imgur.com/vG9cfd7.gif


Block Explorer (http://qora.tech:9090/index/blockexplorer.html)
Mirror Block Explorer (http://burstkore.ddns.net:9090/index/blockexplorer.html)





http://i.imgur.com/hURiHLs.gif


Website (http://qora.org)

QORA slack alternative chat invite link (https://alttech.chat/signup_user_complete/?id=mpt4m8wdg38c5qjecus7z7c9cy)

Faucet (http://qora.co.in/faucet.php) - currently down will be building a new faucet. Contact crowetic for any needs.

Trusted nodes (http://qora.co.in/?nodes) - currently down, will be rebuilding.

qora.co.in - services for Qora (http://qora.co.in/) - currently down, will be rebuilding.

smartcontr.actor - services for Automated Transactions (http://smartcontr.actor/)

Decentralized Qora Blog (http://qora.tech:9090/index/blog.html)

Dezentralized Web Node (http://qora.tech:9090)

API help (http://api.qora.org/)

Facebook (https://facebook.com/qoracoin)

Twitter (https://twitter.com/qoracoin)

Russian Language Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616074.0)

Chinese Language Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626713.0)




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There are a couple common issues (which are being resolved, but we would like to provide some workarounds for you for now...) that cause certain annoyances when using QORA...

1. DB fails to re-load correctly when killed - to fix this, simply delete your data folder, download the one above that was sync'd as of August 25th. Replace the data folder with the one above after extracting. MAKE SURE TO ALWAYS CLOSE QORA WITH FILE-QUIT TO AVOID THIS ISSUE.

2. Trying to setup a hosted QORA wallet doesn't allow you to save settings... - to fix this issue, file-quit on your qora wallet and let the saving db window disappear (this sometimes takes a couple minutes...) once this is completed, remove the 'settings.json' file in the QORA wallet folder, then restart your QORA wallet and let it create a new settings.json file.




NEW hosted QORA wallet and decentralized block explorer



A new QORA hosted wallet instance has been setup at http://qora.tech:9090 - this can be used to access the QORA network, and find hosted sites there, as well as blogs, etc.

A web wallet is in development, but currently only allows localhost connections. This will be redeveloped and a new UI with all QORA has to offer will be built in a web-based platform.

A decentralized QORA block explorer (that every wallet has) can be accessed here http://qora.tech:9090/index/blockexplorer.html


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Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vanyabios on February 09, 2016, 06:06:45 PM
new thread?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Notieboie on February 09, 2016, 06:08:12 PM
why new thread? i think there was already one


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 09, 2016, 06:08:29 PM
Wallet v0.24.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.24.0

Quote

The v0.24.0 release includes the following updates:

  • Replaced external Ed25519 C libraries to pure Java code
  • Optimized Wallet Synchronization
  • Faster implementation of Base58
  • Added support for all languages based on UTF-8 for Qora web
  • Multilanguage support in blog for #hashtags and @mentions
  • Revision of Asset Exchange
  • Block Explorer optimization (boost is not needed)
  • Block Explorer transactions filter
  • API for messaging service
  • API for assets (limited)
  • Revision Control System Upgrade
  • Delete owned unconfirmed transactions that has not been propagated into the network
  • Improvement for logging system
  • Updated third-party libraries
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 09, 2016, 06:15:03 PM
why new thread? i think there was already one
Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 09, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
Version 0.25.0 is coming with great changes!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vincentvincent on February 09, 2016, 06:47:50 PM
interesting! 8)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on February 09, 2016, 07:20:17 PM
Version 0.25.0 is coming with great changes!


Awesome. Looks like Qora will be rising in both development and price. I hope it will go to the moon someday. Prices are really cheap for Qora if you tell me. Being a great alt coin with powerful features, I sometimes wonder why is it undervalued? Maybe people hasn't realized its true potential yet.  ::)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: OSMIUMCOIN on February 09, 2016, 07:27:44 PM



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on February 09, 2016, 07:38:39 PM
Qora - phoenix-like?!
I am ready! :)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on February 09, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
Glad to see that qora is always progressing  8)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Simple858 on February 09, 2016, 08:20:57 PM
why is this line in Qora Poloniex balance:
Deposits and withdrawals temporarily disabled




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 09, 2016, 08:28:25 PM
why is this line in Qora Poloniex balance:
Deposits and withdrawals temporarily disabled




We are in contact with them. They are currently having problems to connect to the network. Big parts of the connection process have been rewritten, next version will most likely fix the poloniex problems.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Simple858 on February 09, 2016, 09:13:04 PM
ok thx.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: twistelaar on February 09, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
what happened with Vrontis account? And can a team member make the ANN as it was?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 09, 2016, 10:59:40 PM
what happened with Vrontis account? And can a team member make the ANN as it was?
This is a new account, until it is very limited.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: majeis on February 09, 2016, 11:11:28 PM
why new thread? i think there was already one
Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.


How did you lose control of the account?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jaipagare on February 09, 2016, 11:55:43 PM
why new thread? i think there was already one
Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.


How did you lose control of the account?

Can some one post link to the old thread please..


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 10, 2016, 12:34:30 AM
Can some one post link to the old thread please..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1015379.0


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: LemonAndFriesOne on February 10, 2016, 01:19:41 AM
Decided to jump, let's go up or crash hard woooo!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptoSporidium on February 10, 2016, 02:50:47 AM
why new thread? i think there was already one
Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.


How did you lose control of the account?

Please answer, where is vrontis ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 10, 2016, 03:08:32 AM
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How did you lose control of the account?

Please answer, where is vrontis ?
It happens here: https://qoracommunity.slack.com (http://slack.qora.org/). I asked him a question about losing his account, soon I will write here his answer.

--
agran


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 10, 2016, 03:15:33 AM
Account access of qora.team have:
agran
skerberus
vbcs
vrontis


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vanyabios on February 10, 2016, 06:37:41 AM
ok! we are waiting for new version of wallet


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptoSporidium on February 10, 2016, 06:45:38 AM
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How did you lose control of the account?

Please answer, where is vrontis ?
It happens here: https://qoracommunity.slack.com (http://slack.qora.org/). I asked him a question about losing his account, soon I will write here his answer.

--
agran

Ok, thank you!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on February 10, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
Decided to jump, let's go up or crash hard woooo!

lol, Qora jumped allright  :) It's up 100% . Seems the jump is worth it, since I'm sure this is only the beginning of new things.

sidenote: I just love how the wallet can lock itself after 2 min if you need to unlock it to forge. Not only is it convenient (set it and forget it so to speak), but it's a nice safety feature too.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Richard1972x on February 10, 2016, 08:16:43 AM
Interesting, that even this new thread have a positive price impact.
What I also think is a big problem are the locked funds at Bter. I think its still not possible to get out funds from Bter, or have this changed?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: randombit on February 10, 2016, 10:56:53 AM
2 Quesitons

1. When will Poloniex solved the problem, since a week or longer its not possible to deposit or withdrawl qora

2. Ive installed the new 0.24.0 qora lightwallet, and for me its difficult to see the sync status;  

There stands-  Sync Satus: Synchronizing   / ok what does it mean now? is it still synchronizing? and when yes how long does it take? there is no % Status to see. And why does it need to sync when its a web walle? iam sorry but thats a little bit confusing  ??? . Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 10, 2016, 11:01:40 AM
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Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.
How did you lose control of the account?

Vrontis:
Quote
@agran: I lost access to Vrontis account due to this --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206977.0

I have ask the forum admins to unlock my account but for more than a month now I have not received any responses


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on February 10, 2016, 03:10:31 PM
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Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.
How did you lose control of the account?

Vrontis:
Quote
@agran: I lost access to Vrontis account due to this --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206977.0

I have ask the forum admins to unlock my account but for more than a month now I have not received any responses


Oh.. didn't know users could lost accounts for this reason.

Wish qora team can address the Poloniex wallet issue soon.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vanyabios on February 11, 2016, 07:00:57 AM
hey. What about your twtr acc?
https://twitter.com/cryptoVrontis



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: johnnysof on February 11, 2016, 09:13:14 AM
Quote
Lost control of the account Vrontis.
qora.team is new shared developer account.
How did you lose control of the account?

Vrontis:
Quote
@agran: I lost access to Vrontis account due to this --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206977.0

I have ask the forum admins to unlock my account but for more than a month now I have not received any responses


Oh.. didn't know users could lost accounts for this reason.

Wish qora team can address the Poloniex wallet issue soon.
Also Bier needs to be fixed. Withdrawals not possible (error: wallet locked!?!?!, and not only by me)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: randombit on February 11, 2016, 12:50:40 PM
And thats why you dont have any community!. Still no answer!  Thanks and have fun with your toy.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 11, 2016, 02:52:53 PM
2 Quesitons

1. When will Poloniex solved the problem, since a week or longer its not possible to deposit or withdrawl qora

2. Ive installed the new 0.24.0 qora lightwallet, and for me its difficult to see the sync status;  

There stands-  Sync Satus: Synchronizing   / ok what does it mean now? is it still synchronizing? and when yes how long does it take? there is no % Status to see. And why does it need to sync when its a web walle? iam sorry but thats a little bit confusing  ??? . Thanks!

In the 0.25.0 version will be solved many problems.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: twistelaar on February 11, 2016, 07:59:44 PM
can somebody invite me to the slack?! where is VRONTIS?!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Richard1972x on February 11, 2016, 08:11:49 PM
2 Quesitons

1. When will Poloniex solved the problem, since a week or longer its not possible to deposit or withdrawl qora

2. Ive installed the new 0.24.0 qora lightwallet, and for me its difficult to see the sync status;  

There stands-  Sync Satus: Synchronizing   / ok what does it mean now? is it still synchronizing? and when yes how long does it take? there is no % Status to see. And why does it need to sync when its a web walle? iam sorry but thats a little bit confusing  ??? . Thanks!

In the 0.25.0 version will be solved many problems.

Will this version also solve the problem with the exchanges? So that we can withdraw founds from Bter? For me this is the key factor why we have still prices below 10 Sat. Much more important than any further features.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 11, 2016, 08:16:02 PM
can somebody invite me to the slack?! where is VRONTIS?!
http://slack.qora.org/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 11, 2016, 08:17:10 PM
2 Quesitons

1. When will Poloniex solved the problem, since a week or longer its not possible to deposit or withdrawl qora

2. Ive installed the new 0.24.0 qora lightwallet, and for me its difficult to see the sync status;  

There stands-  Sync Satus: Synchronizing   / ok what does it mean now? is it still synchronizing? and when yes how long does it take? there is no % Status to see. And why does it need to sync when its a web walle? iam sorry but thats a little bit confusing  ??? . Thanks!

In the 0.25.0 version will be solved many problems.

Will this version also solve the problem with the exchanges? So that we can withdraw founds from Bter? For me this is the key factor why we have still prices below 10 Sat. Much more important than any further features.

The poloniex problems most likely. Bter is not really answering my mails, so I have no clue what exactly their problem is.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 12, 2016, 04:22:15 PM
Just tried to fire up v 0.24 after a few months away and getting the following error:
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
The wallet just kinda seems stuck and does not connect.
Any idea why I am unable to connect to peers?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on February 12, 2016, 05:47:11 PM
Just tried to fire up v 0.24 after a few months away and getting the following error:
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
The wallet just kinda seems stuck and does not connect.
Any idea why I am unable to connect to peers?
What version? Can zip the whole folder with settings.json and data, upload to the cloud and send link to me to agran@agran.net? It will be very helpful.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tex99 on February 12, 2016, 11:23:19 PM
Just tried to fire up v 0.24 after a few months away and getting the following error:
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
The wallet just kinda seems stuck and does not connect.
Any idea why I am unable to connect to peers?
What version? Can zip the whole folder with settings.json and data, upload to the cloud and send link to me to agran@agran.net? It will be very helpful.



I found I couldn't sync until I added the good nodes from the qora website to the settings.json file in the qora folder. These are the good nodes I added that my wallet syncs with. Breasal should be able to sync if he uses these nodes.

Code:
"104.172.66.205",
"198.199.103.12",
"188.166.16.64",
"188.166.53.239",

I don't think the good nodes are included in the settings.json file that comes included with v0.24.0, you have to manually add them yourself. There must have been a changeover in the wallets that permanently forge since v0.24.0 was released. Some of the nodes included in that file intermittently forge, but there were times when I couldn't connect to any of them.

My whole settings.json file is pasted below.

Code:
{
"knownpeers":[ "104.172.66.205", "198.199.103.12",
"188.166.16.64", "188.166.53.239", "192.243.117.77",
"193.242.149.63",
"130.180.201.117",
"188.166.53.239",
"188.166.16.64",
"106.186.122.39",
"91.89.150.241",
"104.172.66.205",
"130.180.201.117",
"61.186.94.151",
"78.42.234.55"
],
"rpcallowed":[
"127.0.0.1"
],
"weballowed":[
"127.0.0.1"
],
"blockexplorerboost":false,
"guienabled":true,
"rpcenabled":true,
"webenabled":true,
"systray":true,
"maxconnections":100,
"minconnections":10,
"generatorkeycaching":true,
"checkpoint":true,
"soundreceivepayment":true,
"soundnewtransaction":true,
"soundreceivemessage":true
}


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tex99 on February 12, 2016, 11:34:15 PM
2 Quesitons

1. When will Poloniex solved the problem, since a week or longer its not possible to deposit or withdrawl qora

2. Ive installed the new 0.24.0 qora lightwallet, and for me its difficult to see the sync status;  

There stands-  Sync Satus: Synchronizing   / ok what does it mean now? is it still synchronizing? and when yes how long does it take? there is no % Status to see. And why does it need to sync when its a web walle? iam sorry but thats a little bit confusing  ??? . Thanks!



I asked for a progress bar or the number of blocks left to download to be added to the wallet in the last pages of the old qora thread. Agran has been working on it and posted a screenshot to show what he's done. It shows both the number of blocks left to go and a percentage left to go. The devs will probably include it in the next released wallet.

Please add a progress bar to these messages with an estimate of time left, or number of blocks to go. It will help increase adoption of qora by new users.
I have made progress:
https://pp.vk.me/c630719/v630719321/12985/dRysT6SeqIY.jpg


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 13, 2016, 01:55:58 AM
Just tried to fire up v 0.24 after a few months away and getting the following error:
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
The wallet just kinda seems stuck and does not connect.
Any idea why I am unable to connect to peers?
We modified this part. The next version should be much better.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 13, 2016, 05:50:38 AM
Just tried to fire up v 0.24 after a few months away and getting the following error:
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
The wallet just kinda seems stuck and does not connect.
Any idea why I am unable to connect to peers?
What version? Can zip the whole folder with settings.json and data, upload to the cloud and send link to me to agran@agran.net? It will be very helpful.

Email sent with link to data folder and settings.json file. Thanks for checking it out.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vincentvincent on February 13, 2016, 11:16:36 AM
The link from coinmarketcap for Qora to "Discussion" stil points to old discussion.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kahir on February 13, 2016, 11:30:16 AM
The link from coinmarketcap for Qora to "Discussion" stil points to old discussion.

so does your signature :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vincentvincent on February 13, 2016, 12:43:49 PM
The link from coinmarketcap for Qora to "Discussion" stil points to old discussion.

so does your signature :D

Woeha! ;) Hilarious, thanks for pointing that out....


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 13, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
Just tried to fire up v 0.24 after a few months away and getting the following error:
INFO: Peers retrieved after settings : 0
The wallet just kinda seems stuck and does not connect.
Any idea why I am unable to connect to peers?
What version? Can zip the whole folder with settings.json and data, upload to the cloud and send link to me to agran@agran.net? It will be very helpful.

Email sent with link to data folder and settings.json file. Thanks for checking it out.

Error update: so I took my laptop out and changed wifi networks: I was able to connect to peers and sync the qora blockchain. I recently moved apartments and it appears that the syncing error (peer = 0) is related to the router or wifi network? Do I need to set anything on my router to allow access and/or communication with the qora network? What do you think is the simplest solution? Thanks.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on February 13, 2016, 03:53:56 PM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on February 13, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
When is qora releasing new wallet?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: magaura on February 13, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
seems very soon.. pumping..


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 13, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
When is qora releasing new wallet?
Soon.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 14, 2016, 02:06:46 AM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.
The new version fixes a lot of errors. Made a lot of improvements. Probably all the problems will be solved.
I think that the withdrawal will work in a week.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: helloge on February 14, 2016, 04:56:06 AM
seems very soon.. pumping..
so nice for the pumping and processing of qora.
still wait for the huge potential.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 14, 2016, 04:57:34 AM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.
The new version fixes a lot of errors. Made a lot of improvements. Probably all the problems will be solved.
I think that the withdrawal will work in a week.

Got v 0.24 working fine now. So many great features and a well-built platform. Looking forward to v.25. Thanks for the continued effort qora.team!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on February 14, 2016, 05:42:52 AM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.
The new version fixes a lot of errors. Made a lot of improvements. Probably all the problems will be solved.
I think that the withdrawal will work in a week.

Got v 0.24 working fine now. So many great features and a well-built platform. Looking forward to v.25. Thanks for the continued effort qora.team!


qora WILL rise soon after years of struggle.

kudos to the team


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Richard1972x on February 14, 2016, 08:45:04 AM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.
The new version fixes a lot of errors. Made a lot of improvements. Probably all the problems will be solved.
I think that the withdrawal will work in a week.

Wow, that would be excellent. Looking forward for prices above 10 Satoshi.
Well done development team


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yanglei504 on February 14, 2016, 11:13:34 AM
where to download qora block ??? thx


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 14, 2016, 12:01:30 PM
where to download qora block ??? thx

http://qora.co.in/?datafolder


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Richard1972x on February 14, 2016, 12:30:52 PM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.
The new version fixes a lot of errors. Made a lot of improvements. Probably all the problems will be solved.
I think that the withdrawal will work in a week.

Wow, that would be excellent. Looking forward for prices above 10 Satoshi.
Well done development team

Wow, that was a decend rise today. But with the new wallet we can also go up to 20-30 Satoshi. I'm sure about this.
Go Qora, go!  :)

Richi


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jahl on February 14, 2016, 08:46:52 PM
keep up the good work, this project def. has potential  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on February 14, 2016, 11:54:44 PM
do we have working wallet for polo and bter?

I don't know how to withdraw from exchanges.
The new version fixes a lot of errors. Made a lot of improvements. Probably all the problems will be solved.
I think that the withdrawal will work in a week.

Wow, that would be excellent. Looking forward for prices above 10 Satoshi.
Well done development team

Wow, that was a decend rise today. But with the new wallet we can also go up to 20-30 Satoshi. I'm sure about this.
Go Qora, go!  :)

Richi

Definitely agree with you. Price is looking very good right now for Qora, although it has gone a little lower but still a higher price than before. Just had a very few Qora and profited from it, but I am hoping for price to get a little lower to buy some more. I can't imagine that when the new wallet gets released, things would change drastically. I am keeping my eye on this one. This is going to be exciting.  :D

Would be pretty cool if there would be a cloud staking service for Qora.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: magaura on February 15, 2016, 12:07:31 AM
totally agree.. just go down bitch..we will buy more.. :DD :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 15, 2016, 01:50:02 AM
Almost everything is ready for release.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lockepi on February 15, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
just caught my eye this project is awesome. your wallet is crazy. keep it up. the chart says it all its up from here.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: solstice on February 15, 2016, 09:19:53 AM
Exciting times ahead for Qora. Cheers everyone!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 15, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
can see 100sats for this coin plus. funny thing is if it were to get pumped, the pumper would be only dealing with the coins on the exchange not the ones in wallet


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 15, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
nice article https://opensource.com/life/15/11/open-cryptocurrency-brings-blockchain-people


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on February 15, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
nice article https://opensource.com/life/15/11/open-cryptocurrency-brings-blockchain-people

how ACCT works? if not now, and any plan or roadmap?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 15, 2016, 11:16:04 AM
nice article https://opensource.com/life/15/11/open-cryptocurrency-brings-blockchain-people

how ACCT works? if not now, and any plan or roadmap?

ACCT currently only works between Qora and burst, but it is planned to allow this also between Qora/BTC and Qora/LTC.
Qora uses automated transaction to allow this which is built by the ciyam team, specification can be found here https://ciyam.org/at/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 15, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
From version 0.24.0 already made 237 patches.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 15, 2016, 11:52:25 AM
In our roadmap - to release light wallet based on web. To be able to make transactions knowing your seed anywhere. Without installing the app, and without downloading the chain.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on February 15, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
nice article https://opensource.com/life/15/11/open-cryptocurrency-brings-blockchain-people

how ACCT works? if not now, and any plan or roadmap?

ACCT currently only works between Qora and burst, but it is planned to allow this also between Qora/BTC and Qora/LTC.
Qora uses automated transaction to allow this which is built by the ciyam team, specification can be found here https://ciyam.org/at/

thanks.

so i can understand like this. qora will sooner release a user friendly decentralized cross chain APP, with QORA/BTC/LTC pair.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 15, 2016, 02:44:35 PM
In our roadmap - to release light wallet based on web. To be able to make transactions knowing your seed anywhere. Without installing the app, and without downloading the chain.

From version 0.24.0 already made 237 patches.

Much needed update. Qora is in for a great future. Once people catch on and realize the potential in addition to ACCT, I see at least 100 sat and more and more use. Today at 10-11 sats, Qora is 84th on Coin-Market-Cap at $474,000. At 100 sats, that's only $4.7 M and just in the top 20. Not an unrealistic target.

Edit: just knowing how qora trading goes, however, dumpers dump and it's been really hard to maintain a solid trading volume and higher value. Once more people use/buy qora, distribution will prevent this but it will take some time.

Thanks qora.team for pushing out the new version.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on February 15, 2016, 03:06:58 PM
In our roadmap - to release light wallet based on web. To be able to make transactions knowing your seed anywhere. Without installing the app, and without downloading the chain.

From version 0.24.0 already made 237 patches.

Much needed update. Qora is in for a great future. Once people catch on and realize the potential in addition to ACCT, I see at least 100 sat and more and more use. Today at 10-11 sats, Qora is 84th on Coin-Market-Cap at $474,000. At 100 sats, that's only $4.7 M and just in the top 20. Not an unrealistic target.

Edit: just knowing how qora trading goes, however, dumpers dump and it's been really hard to maintain a solid trading volume and higher value. Once more people use/buy qora, distribution will prevent this but it will take some time.

Thanks qora.team for pushing out the new version.

devs are not responsible for pushing trading, but for delivering. 

I do believe, qora will survive and rise with qualified development.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 15, 2016, 05:47:06 PM
The release is on the way.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 15, 2016, 06:53:30 PM
The release is on the way.


was this team created by satoshi nakamoto


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: m4nki on February 15, 2016, 10:04:41 PM
Following with interest. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 15, 2016, 11:33:38 PM
Wallet v0.25.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.0

Quote

The v0.25.0 release includes the following updates:

  • A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 25. In this regard:
    - To increase the security of Qora.
    - Improved network portion. Wallet selects the best nodes. Permission to use the same IP.
    - Allowed messages with zero amount. Now you can send the assets with message.
    - Optional multiple payments in ArbitraryTransaction.
  • Improved section Peers. After Hard Fork, there will be a visible version of each of the connected node.
  • Added TestNet mode. command line key "-testnet".
  • If there is no connection, it will load the list of trusted peers from the Internet.
  • Added commenting in the blogs. There is a delete function.
  • Added visual editor for websites.
  • The dialogue prompt for password to unlock the wallet when performing actions in the Web.
  • Improved Asset Exchange section.
  • Added voting within assets.
  • Auto update Asset Favorites for non-zero balances.
  • Added to the menu item to unlock the wallet.
  • Added hotkeys for all menu items.
  • Added Closing dialog.
  • Display the synchronization status in tooltip in systray. Also added wallet synchronization status.
  • Added new API commands.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.


A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 25​ so, make sure that you will update your wallet to the latest version ( ​0.25.0​ )before the fork takes place.

P.S.: The Windows installer will be tomorrow.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 15, 2016, 11:58:01 PM
il admit guys i was looking at this coin for a quick profit but hey joining slack and talking to vrontis im sold on this, no doubt this will gain same interest as maidsafe.

this should help explain

atomic cross chain transaction this will change everything

http://i64.tinypic.com/21kxw95.png


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 16, 2016, 12:06:06 AM
doge coin with 102billion coins is at 72sats with acct im sure we can 10 times with only 10billion


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 16, 2016, 12:32:46 AM
http://qora.co.in/?datafolder Here you can download data folder. So it will be faster.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on February 16, 2016, 12:38:24 AM
doge coin with 102billion coins is at 72sats with acct im sure we can 10 times with only 10billion

easy, bro.

it will take time.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 16, 2016, 03:35:47 AM
Wallet v0.25.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.0

Quote

The v0.25.0 release includes the following updates:

  • A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 22. In this regard:
    - To increase the security of Qora.
    - Improved network portion. Wallet selects the best nodes. Permission to use the same IP.
    - Allowed messages with zero amount. Now you can send the assets with message.
    - Optional multiple payments in ArbitraryTransaction.
  • Improved section Peers. After Hard Fork, there will be a visible version of each of the connected node.
  • Added TestNet mode. command line key "-testnet".
  • If there is no connection, it will load the list of trusted peers from the Internet.
  • Added commenting in the blogs. There is a delete function.
  • Added visual editor for websites.
  • The dialogue prompt for password to unlock the wallet when performing actions in the Web.
  • Improved Asset Exchange section.
  • Added voting within assets.
  • Auto update Asset Favorites for non-zero balances.
  • Added to the menu item to unlock the wallet.
  • Added hotkeys for all menu items.
  • Added Closing dialog.
  • Display the synchronization status in tooltip in systray. Also added wallet synchronization status.
  • Added new API commands.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.


A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 22​ so, make sure that you will update your wallet to the latest version ( ​0.25.0​ )before the fork takes place.

P.S.: The Windows installer will be tomorrow.

Really like the improved peer section and good to see a -testnet for development. Overall really good improvements. Will there be a genesis for testnet qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: magaura on February 16, 2016, 04:05:27 AM
To be honest I thought the same..oh another old shitcoin..''I will buy for a quick profit" ...but now I see..this coin is more...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 16, 2016, 06:42:46 AM
I will create the windows version today in the evening, so stay tuned ;).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 16, 2016, 07:03:35 AM
Correction: Hardfork date - 25 February, 7pm UTC.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: IdoKrauss1 on February 16, 2016, 12:58:11 PM
is there an eta for deposit/withdrawal issues in polo,bter and ccedk ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Poly#Crypto on February 16, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
is there an eta for deposit/withdrawal issues in polo,bter and ccedk ?

On Poloniex: Deposits and withdrawals temporarily disabled


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: starik69 on February 16, 2016, 02:39:00 PM
What are API changes? ???
I used
Code:
curl "http://127.0.0.1:9085/wallet/unlock" -X POST -d mypassword
to unlock but now it returns
Code:
{"error":0,"message":"unknown error"}
:'(


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 16, 2016, 04:06:00 PM
What are API changes? ???
I used
Code:
curl "http://127.0.0.1:9085/wallet/unlock" -X POST -d mypassword
to unlock but now it returns
Code:
{"error":0,"message":"unknown error"}
:'(
Today an update is released. This fixes several bugs, including this one.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Richard1972x on February 16, 2016, 04:22:28 PM
is there an eta for deposit/withdrawal issues in polo,bter and ccedk ?

On Poloniex: Deposits and withdrawals temporarily disabled

Yeah, this should be solved. We would need Polo and Bter fixed, otherwise we wont increase further in Price.
This is the key for me. I think the funds there are blocked since months.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tranzactionezlive on February 16, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
Guys how do i use the wallet.dat files ? My wallet crashed then it wouldn't start, i downloaded java version, this one starts but even though i copied the wallet files it will not load transactions nor balance.


Edit : even in v  0.25 : My accounts simply do not show up.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Pofick on February 16, 2016, 04:53:58 PM
Hello guys!

Is it true that you have your own blog inside the blockchain? Can you give me a link to it? Isn't it heavy burden for blockchain to host blogs?

Сurrently I'm learning ZeroNet, it is p2p network with ability of serverless hosting of sites, blogs included:

http://bit.no.com:43110/1HeLLo4uzjaLetFx6NH3PMwFP3qbRbTf3D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 16, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
Guys how do i use the wallet.dat files ? My wallet crashed then it wouldn't start, i downloaded java version, this one starts but even though i copied the wallet files it will not load transactions nor balance.


Edit : even in v  0.25 : My accounts simply do not show up.

You need to add the data folder into your qora dir (if you downloaded the blockchain from qora.co.in) if you use the universal wallet. Is your wallet connecting and synchronizing? Your balance will be refreshed once you are completly synchronized.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 16, 2016, 06:26:49 PM
Hello guys!

Is it true that you have your own blog inside the blockchain? Can you give me a link to it? Isn't it heavy burden for blockchain to host blogs?

Сurrently I'm learning ZeroNet, it is p2p network with ability of serverless hosting of sites, blogs included:

http://bit.no.com:43110/1HeLLo4uzjaLetFx6NH3PMwFP3qbRbTf3D


Mainblog can be seen via agrans gateway : http://mirror.qora.co.in:9090/index/blog.html
custom blog is this e.g. : http://mirror.qora.co.in:9090/index/blog.html?blogname=qora.team
or blogdirectory if you want to see all current blogs:
http://mirror.qora.co.in:9090/index/blogdirectory.html

For posting/comment or creating own blog you need the wallet of course!

currently it is no heavy burden to host websites and blogs, but it may lead to problems if we have real adoption, but we already have ideas regarding that.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Pofick on February 16, 2016, 06:55:47 PM
For posting/comment or creating own blog you need the wallet of course!

How much coins do I need (in USD) to post something in it?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 16, 2016, 06:58:08 PM
For posting/comment or creating own blog you need the wallet of course!

How much coins do I need (in USD) to post something in it?

Depends on the size---> in best case currently 1 Qora which is currently approx $ 0.000044


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: PrimusInterPares on February 16, 2016, 07:05:40 PM
I wondered what the price bump from 3 to 11 Sats over the last days was caused about. Now I know it.
Despite the struggles I still hold Qora and trust the developers behind the coin.

Wallet v0.24.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.24.0

Quote

The v0.24.0 release includes the following updates:

  • Replaced external Ed25519 C libraries to pure Java code
  • Optimized Wallet Synchronization
  • Faster implementation of Base58
  • Added support for all languages based on UTF-8 for Qora web
  • Multilanguage support in blog for #hashtags and @mentions
  • Revision of Asset Exchange
  • Block Explorer optimization (boost is not needed)
  • Block Explorer transactions filter
  • API for messaging service
  • API for assets (limited)
  • Revision Control System Upgrade
  • Delete owned unconfirmed transactions that has not been propagated into the network
  • Improvement for logging system
  • Updated third-party libraries
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 16, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
I wondered what the price bump from 3 to 11 Sats over the last days was caused about. Now I know it.
Despite the struggles I still hold Qora and trust the developers behind the coin.



Please don't quote the old wallet! v0.25 is the current version! There will be v0.25.1 today probably!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Poly#Crypto on February 16, 2016, 07:59:51 PM
It feels like that v0.25 works much faster than the old version.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 16, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Wallet v0.25.1 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.1

The release includes the following updates:

  • A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 25. In this regard:
    - To increase the security of Qora.
    - Improved network portion. Wallet selects the best nodes. Permission to use the same IP.
    - Allowed messages with zero amount. Now you can send the assets with message.
    - Optional multiple payments in ArbitraryTransaction.
  • Improved section Peers. After Hard Fork, there will be a visible version of each of the connected node.
  • Added TestNet mode. command line key "-testnet".
  • If there is no connection, it will load the list of trusted peers from the Internet.
  • Added commenting in the blogs. There is a delete function.
  • Added visual editor for websites.
  • The dialogue prompt for password to unlock the wallet when performing actions in the Web.
  • Improved Asset Exchange section.
  • Added voting within assets.
  • Auto update Asset Favorites for non-zero balances.
  • Added to the menu item to unlock the wallet.
  • Added hotkeys for all menu items.
  • Added Closing dialog.
  • Display the synchronization status in tooltip in systray. Also added wallet synchronization status.
  • Added new API commands.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.


In this release is made work on the bugs.

Now there is a version for Windows.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on February 16, 2016, 10:57:53 PM
Wallet v0.25.1 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.1

Now there is a version for Windows.


I hope that the new wallet could be better than the previous one. I am downloading it right now. Just to be safe, can I run this installer and overwrite the old version or will I lose the wallet? Is it really necessary to uninstall the old one first and then install the new one?  ???


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 16, 2016, 11:30:59 PM
I hope that the new wallet could be better than the previous one. I am downloading it right now. Just to be safe, can I run this installer and overwrite the old version or will I lose the wallet? Is it really necessary to uninstall the old one first and then install the new one?  ???
The installer supports upgrading. Wallet saved.

You need to keep your SEED in safety and then you can always recover your addresses.

If you don't know the SEED, you need to do the following:
Menu - > File -> Debug -> Console, and enter:
Code:
POST wallet/unlock <password>
GET wallet/seed
Save the data.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on February 16, 2016, 11:42:36 PM
I hope that the new wallet could be better than the previous one. I am downloading it right now. Just to be safe, can I run this installer and overwrite the old version or will I lose the wallet? Is it really necessary to uninstall the old one first and then install the new one?  ???
The installer supports upgrading. Wallet saved.

You need to keep your SEED in safety and then you can always recover your addresses.

If you don't know the SEED, you need to do the following:
Menu - > File -> Debug -> Console, and enter:
Code:
POST wallet/unlock <password>
GET wallet/seed
Save the data.

Thanks. Before installing I did make a backup of the seed but after installation of the new version was successful, I ran the Qora wallet and I didn't lose anything from my wallet. The upgrade went completely smooth. Thanks for sharing these instructions. It has been of great use to me.  :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tranzactionezlive on February 17, 2016, 12:46:21 AM
How do i import seed to newly installed wallet ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 17, 2016, 01:36:07 AM
How do i import seed to newly installed wallet ?
The first time launch Qora there are such windows:

https://pp.vk.me/c627423/v627423321/49a82/-ks-scXJ_5E.jpg

https://pp.vk.me/c627423/v627423321/49a8a/1_zWdzzpwnA.jpg

If it do not appear, you can delete the folder wallet.

If you are using the console version, then
Code:
> java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar Qora.jar -cli
> POST wallet {"seed":"<yourSeed>", "password":"<newPassword>", "recover":true,  "amount":10}

You can also add in the wallet one address:
Code:
POST addresses <addressSeed>

To know addressSeed, based on the global seed, you can use the utility VanitygenQoraPure
https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQoraPure/releases
Code:
> java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar VanitygenQoraPure.jar {seed} {count}
Also with this utility you can generate nice Qora-addresses, as QfreeNWCeaU3BiXUxktaJRJrBB1SDg2k7o.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tranzactionezlive on February 17, 2016, 01:50:00 AM
How do i import seed to newly installed wallet ?
The first time launch Qora there are such windows:

https://pp.vk.me/c627423/v627423321/49a82/-ks-scXJ_5E.jpg

https://pp.vk.me/c627423/v627423321/49a8a/1_zWdzzpwnA.jpg

If you do not appear, you can delete the folder wallet.

If you are using the console version, then
Code:
> java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar Qora.jar -cli
> POST wallet {"seed":"<yourSeed>", "password":"<newPassword>", "recover":true,  "amount":10}

You can also add in the wallet one address:
Code:
POST addresses <addressSeed>

To know addressSeed, based on the global seed, you can use the utility VanitygenQoraPure
https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQoraPure/releases
Code:
> java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar VanitygenQoraPure.jar {seed} {count}
Also with this utility you can generate nice Qora-addresses, as QfreeNWCeaU3BiXUxktaJRJrBB1SDg2k7o.


Thanks , i will try it now.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: digitron on February 17, 2016, 08:23:51 AM
I just installed 0.25.1 and get below errors at Startup (both regular and lightweight clients). Java Version is 8.73 on Windows 8.1.

java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(JarRsrcLoader.java:58)
Caused by: java.io.IOError: java.io.IOException: Checksum does not match, data broken
   at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get(StoreWAL.java:322)
   at org.mapdb.Caches$HashTable.get(Caches.java:246)
   at org.mapdb.EngineWrapper.get(EngineWrapper.java:58)
   at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.get(BTreeMap.java:602)
   at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.containsKey(BTreeMap.java:1505)
   at database.DBMap.contains(DBMap.java:236)
   at qora.block.Block.getHeight(Block.java:249)
   at qora.block.Block.getHeight(Block.java:244)
   at utils.UpdateUtil.repopulateCommentPostMap(UpdateUtil.java:136)
   at controller.Controller.start(Controller.java:352)
   at Start.main(Start.java:48)
   ... 5 more
Caused by: java.io.IOException: Checksum does not match, data broken
   at org.mapdb.Store.deserialize(Store.java:261)
   at org.mapdb.StoreDirect.get2(StoreDirect.java:475)
   at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get2(StoreWAL.java:336)
   at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get(StoreWAL.java:320)
   ... 15 more


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 17, 2016, 08:27:51 AM
I just installed 0.25.1 and get below errors at Startup (both regular and lightweight clients). Java Version is 8.73 on Windows 8.1.

java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(JarRsrcLoader.java:58)
Caused by: java.io.IOError: java.io.IOException: Checksum does not match, data broken
   at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get(StoreWAL.java:322)
   at org.mapdb.Caches$HashTable.get(Caches.java:246)
   at org.mapdb.EngineWrapper.get(EngineWrapper.java:58)
   at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.get(BTreeMap.java:602)
   at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.containsKey(BTreeMap.java:1505)
   at database.DBMap.contains(DBMap.java:236)
   at qora.block.Block.getHeight(Block.java:249)
   at qora.block.Block.getHeight(Block.java:244)
   at utils.UpdateUtil.repopulateCommentPostMap(UpdateUtil.java:136)
   at controller.Controller.start(Controller.java:352)
   at Start.main(Start.java:48)
   ... 5 more
Caused by: java.io.IOException: Checksum does not match, data broken
   at org.mapdb.Store.deserialize(Store.java:261)
   at org.mapdb.StoreDirect.get2(StoreDirect.java:475)
   at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get2(StoreWAL.java:336)
   at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get(StoreWAL.java:320)
   ... 15 more


Seems like your data folder is broken. Please stop the application and delete the data folder which is located in your Qora Installation folder (for universal versin) or %appdata%/qora in windows version.
After that your wallet will start from scratch, if you want to speedup the process you can also download the latest data folder here http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

Thanks for bringing this bug to our attention, wie will automate needed steps in the future.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: digitron on February 17, 2016, 09:36:44 AM

Seems like your data folder is broken. Please stop the application and delete the data folder which is located in your Qora Installation folder (for universal versin) or %appdata%/qora in windows version.
After that your wallet will start from scratch, if you want to speedup the process you can also download the latest data folder here http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

Thanks for bringing this bug to our attention, wie will automate needed steps in the future.

that worked thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 17, 2016, 04:32:01 PM

Wallet v0.25.1 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.1


Thanks Skerbus...this version fixed my connection errors and saved me a lot of time sorting out port-forwarding issues. Running like a beast!



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on February 17, 2016, 07:15:16 PM

Wallet v0.25.1 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.1


Thanks Skerbus...this version fixed my connection errors and saved me a lot of time sorting out port-forwarding issues. Running like a beast!



Indeed another great release!

 Thanks qora dev team  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Tabushov on February 17, 2016, 07:44:54 PM
Friends, when will fly to the moon?)) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on February 17, 2016, 08:14:37 PM
Is there Any change BTER to run the new wallet in order to surpass their issues?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: PondSea on February 17, 2016, 09:18:43 PM
Is there Any change BTER to run the new wallet in order to surpass their issues?

Bters issues are bigger than the qora wallet :P

Thanks for the hard work team. Wallet is working and staking :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 17, 2016, 11:56:19 PM
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?block=176302

Wallet of poloniex.com alive!

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 18, 2016, 02:30:19 AM
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?block=176302

Wallet of poloniex.com alive!

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora

Yea, staking too with over 2 Billion qora....guess that's it for forging any more blocks! LOL

But good news about being back online. This is a must for qora to grow. Thanks qora.team!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: houlala1 on February 18, 2016, 02:47:33 AM
Qora orignal dev still out?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 18, 2016, 03:28:29 AM
Qora orignal dev still out?

Left along time ago and did not return. Would be great if he popped in once in awhile to see how the new dev team is managing so well.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on February 18, 2016, 03:49:24 AM
Qora Brain Wallet:
http://qora.co.in/brainwallet/

On pure JavaScript.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on February 18, 2016, 07:56:16 AM
Guys,

I can't fathom why anyone would continue to trade on BTER when YOU have been WARNED repeatedly that it is a SCAM site by numerous members of BTT community umpteen times!

A quick look at their wallet will reveal that BTER simply DOES NOT have enough coins to cover their balance sheets! Just do a simple math and add up all the qora listed for sale on BTER and compare the number to the fund available in their wallet!

Please stop trading on BTER and just let the site die already! Take Heed: Poloniex and CCEDK are the ONLY reliable ones at the moment. You have been warned: Withdraw all your coins from BTER immediately. Don't come crying on Qora board when you find out you cannot withdraw the qora you bought on BTER.



I can verify that BTER is, essentially, now defunct.  Assuming you want to recover some funds, rather than none, try to do your research and see if any of the coins they offer can be successfully withdrawn.  If that's the case, dump your remaining balances for BTC or CNY and purchase those coins.  Transfer them out of BTER to a more usable exchange.

The problem is that a while ago (what, a year, or so?) BTER claims they were hacked and lost a significant portion of their funds.  Having no funds available within many of their wallets, they don't have the funds to pay back user balances.  Claiming issues with blockchain wallets it just away to get around not having a contingency plan.

My hunch is that they are trying to scrape by and rebuild whatever meager business they can.  In order to avoid significant litigation, they probably (and this is a wild guess) are only paying attention to Chinese users with moderate balances.  This isn't because of prejudice.  It's more-likely because a Chinese local with a $10k balance of crypto is more likely to litigate (if that's even possible) than a US or European resident who has the same balance.

I'm sorry to hear if you have withdrawals stuck in limbo.  Unfortunately, BTER has proven time and time again that they are completely incompetent, unreliable and untrustworthy.

Begrudgingly I moved over to Poloniex since it has significant volume (ETH trading is over 20k BTC/day?!)  There is also CCEDK which I think deserves support but the last time I checked, their volume was so low, significant trades were not feasible.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 18, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
exchanges wont matter once acct is implemented for btc and ltc good luck getiing these prices again once it is,


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: m4nki on February 18, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
exchanges wont matter once acct is implemented for btc and ltc good luck getiing these prices again once it is,

Is there a time goal for accomplishing this?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wasref on February 18, 2016, 01:21:08 PM
exchanges wont matter once acct is implemented for btc and ltc good luck getiing these prices again once it is,

Is there a time goal for accomplishing this?

we have to speak to someone named vbcs to know. sitback and enjoy the ride.i see $4million market cap


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on February 18, 2016, 05:03:45 PM
Finally, after jumping around a dozen threads...!!!! Ive read about 1 -5 minutes block time, but how many confirmations to start forging?

thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 18, 2016, 06:59:14 PM
Finally, after jumping around a dozen threads...!!!! Ive read about 1 -5 minutes block time, but how many confirmations to start forging?

thanks

Quote from: qora
The algorithm will allow accounts to start generating blocks after only 10 confirmations.


Real average block time: 5 min 15 sec.
http://qora.co.in/?gen=20


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: m4nki on February 18, 2016, 07:03:13 PM
Finally, after jumping around a dozen threads...!!!! Ive read about 1 -5 minutes block time, but how many confirmations to start forging?

thanks

Why have you been looking for that specific block time?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 19, 2016, 03:11:34 AM
The polo wallet seems to be causing a problem with multiple chains. We really need more people forging to make the chain stable. We should have 100s of nodes not a dozen.

btw: I'm curious - what allows for multiple chains? Is consensus only proved by the majority of peers (or total weight?) accepting the block, thereby promoting the current chain? If so, basically whatever chain polo and another (or a couple) of other heavy wallets accept, that's the chain afaik. The v25.1 peers section is good to analyze how this is working.

@Skerbus or other dev, is there a way to prompt an off-chain wallet to "back up" to the most recent check point and re-sync rather than having to delete and add a "clean" data folder? This seems to happen during new installs or reconnections after being offline but I'm not sure how to manually "initiate" this call. Cheers.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bigrcanada1 on February 19, 2016, 03:16:09 AM
The polo wallet seems to be causing a problem with multiple chains. We really need more people forging to make the chain stable. We should have 100s of nodes not a dozen.

Hi.   What wallet is being recommended?  Thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on February 19, 2016, 03:22:40 AM
The polo wallet seems to be causing a problem with multiple chains. We really need more people forging to make the chain stable. We should have 100s of nodes not a dozen.

Hi.   What wallet is being recommended?  Thanks


Here's the latest:

Wallet v0.25.1 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.1

The release includes the following updates:

  • A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 25. In this regard:
    - To increase the security of Qora.
    - Improved network portion. Wallet selects the best nodes. Permission to use the same IP.
    - Allowed messages with zero amount. Now you can send the assets with message.
    - Optional multiple payments in ArbitraryTransaction.
  • Improved section Peers. After Hard Fork, there will be a visible version of each of the connected node.
  • Added TestNet mode. command line key "-testnet".
  • If there is no connection, it will load the list of trusted peers from the Internet.
  • Added commenting in the blogs. There is a delete function.
  • Added visual editor for websites.
  • The dialogue prompt for password to unlock the wallet when performing actions in the Web.
  • Improved Asset Exchange section.
  • Added voting within assets.
  • Auto update Asset Favorites for non-zero balances.
  • Added to the menu item to unlock the wallet.
  • Added hotkeys for all menu items.
  • Added Closing dialog.
  • Display the synchronization status in tooltip in systray. Also added wallet synchronization status.
  • Added new API commands.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.


In this release is made work on the bugs.

Now there is a version for Windows.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bigrcanada1 on February 19, 2016, 03:36:55 AM
The polo wallet seems to be causing a problem with multiple chains. We really need more people forging to make the chain stable. We should have 100s of nodes not a dozen.

Hi.   What wallet is being recommended?  Thanks


Here's the latest:

Wallet v0.25.1 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.25.1

The release includes the following updates:

  • A Hard Fork is scheduled for February 25. In this regard:
    - To increase the security of Qora.
    - Improved network portion. Wallet selects the best nodes. Permission to use the same IP.
    - Allowed messages with zero amount. Now you can send the assets with message.
    - Optional multiple payments in ArbitraryTransaction.
  • Improved section Peers. After Hard Fork, there will be a visible version of each of the connected node.
  • Added TestNet mode. command line key "-testnet".
  • If there is no connection, it will load the list of trusted peers from the Internet.
  • Added commenting in the blogs. There is a delete function.
  • Added visual editor for websites.
  • The dialogue prompt for password to unlock the wallet when performing actions in the Web.
  • Improved Asset Exchange section.
  • Added voting within assets.
  • Auto update Asset Favorites for non-zero balances.
  • Added to the menu item to unlock the wallet.
  • Added hotkeys for all menu items.
  • Added Closing dialog.
  • Display the synchronization status in tooltip in systray. Also added wallet synchronization status.
  • Added new API commands.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.


In this release is made work on the bugs.

Now there is a version for Windows.


Thanks...that worked great!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on February 19, 2016, 07:28:34 AM
Now you can make the payment even with the phone, knowing your seed:
http://qora.co.in/light/payment.html

Moreover, seed is not sent anywhere, the signing of the transaction by private key happens directly in the browser.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on February 19, 2016, 09:23:26 AM
Now you can make the payment even with the phone, knowing your seed:
http://qora.co.in/light/payment.html

Moreover, seed is not sent anywhere, the signing of the transaction by private key happens directly in the browser.

Nice addition!!

Handy & useful.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: neogen1 on February 19, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
whats the stakerate apr?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 19, 2016, 10:59:33 AM
whats the stakerate apr?
http://qora.co.in/?gen=20 Very little income from forging.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on February 19, 2016, 08:40:28 PM
Now you can make the payment even with the phone, knowing your seed:
http://qora.co.in/light/payment.html

Moreover, seed is not sent anywhere, the signing of the transaction by private key happens directly in the browser.

Very useful indeed. This will make Qora even more versatile for payments anytime anywhere. It is also good for making micro transactions for tipping etc. Now the only thing left to do is to make a Qora wallet for mobile devices like Android and iOS. Just suggesting.  ::)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 19, 2016, 10:56:47 PM
Solution how to set up a node on Ubuntu Server.

Ubuntu Server 12.04 / 12.10 / 13.04 / 13.10 / 14.04 / 15.05 / 15.10 fresh install.

Code:
sudo su -
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade -y
reboot

Code:
sudo su -
apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk screen unzip -y
cd ~/Qora
java -jar Qora.jar -cli                                        #IF UPDATE
GET qora/stop                                                  #IT GIVES THE ERROR
CTRL+C                                                         #IF UPDATE
cd ~
wget https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.25.1/Qora_v0.25.1.zip
unzip -o Qora_v0.25.1.zip
cd Qora
rm -R data                                                     #OPTIONAL
chmod 777 run.sh
screen -d -m -S qora ./run.sh
That's all. Qora will work in the background.

To check sсreen qora:
Code:
screen -r qora

To minimize sreen qora:
Ctrl+A D

To get info in console:
Code:
echo "Last block: " && curl http://127.0.0.1:9085/blocks/height && echo -e "\nConnections:" && curl http://127.0.0.1:9085/peers && echo
or
Code:
echo "Last block: " && curl http://127.0.0.1:9090/index/blockexplorer.json?lastBlock && echo

Recommended virtual server with 2GB of RAM and swap enabled.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on February 20, 2016, 01:59:24 AM
Can you help me get this thing running? I last tried with version 18 but had too many issues. Now I think I'm close to getting it running.

Using Mac OSX 10.9.4
Downloaded and ran version 25.
When I saw how long it would take to sync, I stopped it with Control-C and then clicking the red X on the form.
Downloaded a Data folder from three days ago and replaced the original data folder. Deleted the Wallet folder.

On restart, get a message that says "STARTUP ERROR! Network port 9084 already in use!"

What can I do?

Thank you for any help you can provide.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 20, 2016, 04:36:59 AM
Can you help me get this thing running? I last tried with version 18 but had too many issues. Now I think I'm close to getting it running.

Using Mac OSX 10.9.4
Downloaded and ran version 25.
When I saw how long it would take to sync, I stopped it with Control-C and then clicking the red X on the form.
Downloaded a Data folder from three days ago and replaced the original data folder. Deleted the Wallet folder.

On restart, get a message that says "STARTUP ERROR! Network port 9084 already in use!"

What can I do?

Thank you for any help you can provide.
Please install version 0.25.1.

To start, try to restart the computer.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kunac on February 20, 2016, 06:33:23 AM
The web wallet that have NXT or XEM  would be much more attractive to new users like me. It is really incredible that the coin with a lot more features then closest competitors is more than 10x cheaper.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on February 20, 2016, 06:37:40 AM
I figured it was about time for me to jump into the QORA community, considering we're basically related, being the first to have done a cross-chain transfer together.

Just wanted to let everyone here know that I've started up a CF to be dontated to vbcs in order to help with his ambition in helping implement more towards ACCT and the other AT projects.


vbcs is a wonderful dev, and I don't want to see him lose faith in us, the communities of the coins he's helped, thinking we don't care for him...


I will accept donations in any poloniex coin or BTC and donate every single bit to vbcs!


Here's a shot of what is in the BURST CF AT thus far!

https://cloud.crowetic.com/index.php/apps/files_sharing/ajax/publicpreview.php?x=1600&y=484&a=true&file=vbcsCF%2520-%25202%2520days%2520in.PNG&t=mfOSkZ9sSn2di0P&scalingup=0


Hope to see much contact to help these devs, starting with vbcs, and moving on to any others in related projects, get these ground breaking technologies implemented, and off the ground! Thank you to all of the amazing developers involved in this team, and BURST, and all AT developers!



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on February 20, 2016, 03:17:57 PM
Can you help me get this thing running? I last tried with version 18 but had too many issues. Now I think I'm close to getting it running.
<snip>
On restart, get a message that says "STARTUP ERROR! Network port 9084 already in use!"
<snip>

Please install version 0.25.1.

To start, try to restart the computer.


Ok, it was 25.1. I should have been more specific.

So after a reboot it's running well and fully synched. If I have to shut it down, how do I do that safely?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 20, 2016, 05:49:35 PM
Can you help me get this thing running? I last tried with version 18 but had too many issues. Now I think I'm close to getting it running.
<snip>
On restart, get a message that says "STARTUP ERROR! Network port 9084 already in use!"
<snip>

Please install version 0.25.1.

To start, try to restart the computer.


Ok, it was 25.1. I should have been more specific.

So after a reboot it's running well and fully synched. If I have to shut it down, how do I do that safely?

File-> Quit or if you are using the light-wallet --> Qora-icon in systemtray -> right-click->Exit


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on February 20, 2016, 07:10:34 PM

File-> Quit or if you are using the light-wallet --> Qora-icon in systemtray -> right-click->Exit

Thanks, Skerberus.

It's a little different on a Mac, but I see the similar options.
At least now I know not to click on the red button!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Nxtblg on February 21, 2016, 08:22:02 PM
Reserved.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lexonleed on February 22, 2016, 12:25:01 PM
Qora withdraw on Poloniex has not been fixed yet? My withdraw request has been pending for 24 hours.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Tuck Fheman on February 22, 2016, 02:29:02 PM
Guys,

I can't fathom why anyone would continue to trade on BTER when YOU have been WARNED repeatedly that it is a SCAM site by numerous members of BTT community umpteen times!

Can confirm.

Bter stole our Qora over 9 months ago and despite harrassing them for 9 months relentlessly they still will not make good and have finally stopped responding to our support request.

It is our belief that Bter has been running a fractional reserve for more than a year.

Many articles were published on our blog about this as well as in Youtube/Disqus comments or anywhere anyone brought up Bter in an attempt to warn unsuspecting users.

We also posted these warning on Bter's site within as many coin reviews as we could during that time.

Do not trade on Bter. Let them die.

Go Qora!!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on February 22, 2016, 05:26:23 PM
Guy what java version does 25.1 needs? cuz i was using 24 with jre8 without a problem and now with 25.1 It wont start. Is there a logging file to look at the errors?

thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 22, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
Guy what java version does 25.1 needs? cuz i was using 24 with jre8 without a problem and now with 25.1 It wont start. Is there a logging file to look at the errors?

thanks

This should work with all java 8. I assume you are using the universal version right?
open a command prompt and run this in your qora application folder:  "PATH-TO-YOUR-JAVA\java.exe" -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar Qora.jar
then tell us what error your get.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on February 22, 2016, 10:10:26 PM
Guy what java version does 25.1 needs? cuz i was using 24 with jre8 without a problem and now with 25.1 It wont start. Is there a logging file to look at the errors?

thanks

Thanks a lot, that helped. The error was that it couldnt find the file data.dat. So I copied from ver 24, change file permissions and added the wallet file too.

Running "updateutil"...

Loaded peers from database,... Connecting to peers...

Well, im gonna wait and see what happens.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: twistelaar on February 23, 2016, 01:08:27 AM
Reserved.

LOL IPO long time over


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lexonleed on February 23, 2016, 04:18:36 AM
How to mine Qora by POS? Is that just keep the wallet open and running?

Thx!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 23, 2016, 06:39:15 AM
How to mine Qora by POS? Is that just keep the wallet open and running?

Thx!

Yes, start the wallet and unlock it once. There is an indicator in the lower right that should say Forging (if your are already in sync) or Forging enabled (if your are currently not in sync)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wildduck on February 23, 2016, 07:13:59 AM
How long time i have to wait for sync?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 23, 2016, 07:58:07 AM
How long time i have to wait for sync?

Depends on your machine (2 hours probably). You can speedup the process by downloading the blockchain here http://qora.co.in/?datafolder


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lexonleed on February 24, 2016, 12:54:31 AM
Wallet stops working, what happened? It exits without showing the wallet window.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: doriangray on February 24, 2016, 01:23:52 AM

I assume he's just trolling to make the thread more active.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 24, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
Wallet stops working, what happened? It exits without showing the wallet window.

open a command prompt and run this in your qora application folder:  "PATH-TO-YOUR-JAVA\java.exe" -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar Qora.jar
then tell us what error your get.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lexonleed on February 24, 2016, 11:19:14 AM
Problem resolved by reinstalling the wallet and re-sync, thanks.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Nxtblg on February 24, 2016, 03:46:43 PM

Hunh? I just posted that because I wanted to follow the new thread and had nothing to say at the time.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: twistelaar on February 24, 2016, 07:26:00 PM

Hunh? I just posted that because I wanted to follow the new thread and had nothing to say at the time.

Well good your here! If you would like to be on the slack group, just request a invite in this thread! :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 25, 2016, 04:31:57 AM
14 hours left prior to the hardfork.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 25, 2016, 07:15:44 AM
12 hours left to hardfork. Check that you have updated to version 0.25.1.
0.24.0 and earlier will not work with the current version of the blockchain.
poloniex.com works on 0.25.1.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 25, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
5 hours


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Nxtblg on February 25, 2016, 03:42:34 PM

Hunh? I just posted that because I wanted to follow the new thread and had nothing to say at the time.

Well good your here! If you would like to be on the slack group, just request a invite in this thread! :)

Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Richard1972x on February 25, 2016, 03:45:55 PM
12 hours left to hardfork. Check that you have updated to version 0.25.1.
0.24.0 and earlier will not work with the current version of the blockchain.
poloniex.com works on 0.25.1.

Whats about Bter? Yes, I know you all hate Bter. But like me there are hundreds of investors stuck there.
They are lost for Qora if there was not find a solution.
I won't download the client if my fund is still stuck in Bter.
And to be honest: I have got out 10'000 Nxt in January from Bter and also Bitcoin.
This exchange is still working despite the bad reputation some have given here.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on February 25, 2016, 03:55:05 PM
12 hours left to hardfork. Check that you have updated to version 0.25.1.
0.24.0 and earlier will not work with the current version of the blockchain.
poloniex.com works on 0.25.1.

Whats about Bter? Yes, I know you all hate Bter. But like me there are hundreds of investors stuck there.
They are lost for Qora if there was not find a solution.
I won't download the client if my fund is still stuck in Bter.
And to be honest: I have got out 10'000 Nxt in January from Bter and also Bitcoin.
This exchange is still working despite the bad reputation some have given here.

They never reply to my mails, so if they don't want help there is nothing I can do. They just don't seem to support Qora anymore.
The wallet is working fine so far.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 25, 2016, 07:16:41 PM
It happened. https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/27216/34969413.0/0_8ca43_531d7663_orig.png


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: acdc on February 26, 2016, 01:59:44 AM

Woo-Hoo, congratulations team Qora :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 26, 2016, 03:09:10 AM
Last night occurred hardfork. Like all successfully.

The main innovation - a new way of generating blocks, which fixes a vulnerability in Qora. Earlier in the POS system take into consideration the signature of generation bock. Using salt could bruteforce a signature that would have generated a very fast block, even if a very small balance.

Here's the example address generate an inappropriate number of blocks for its balance: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QhUYVg6Z2986NbxzS1YU2tWWwje3WCmcbZ
Or here: http://mirror.qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QSjpkcAQukYakKuprQPE4gJBYFoFFS3FWS

Because of this vulnerability, the attacker could take advantage of double spending.

Fortunately, this vulnerability has been fixed.

Here you can look (https://gist.githubusercontent.com/agran/431f9fca9f5468369c5e/raw/8b2132e3da0451df5b71067ba8360496b43f1bd0/min%2520top%2520300%2520balances%2520of%2520generators) at the smallest balances that were generated blocks. The list is not very accurate, because the account could generate a block in the same block spend coins.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptKeeper on February 26, 2016, 07:14:13 AM
My qora wallet is still staking after the hardfork, so I guess this one went smoothly.

Congrats and happy hardfork everybody!  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: m4nki on February 26, 2016, 11:39:45 AM
Looking forward to the atomic-cross-chain transfers. :)

Any progress on that?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptKeeper on February 26, 2016, 01:53:16 PM
Looking forward to the atomic-cross-chain transfers. :)

Any progress on that?

CIYAM: Seeking partners to implement Automated Transactions (AT) as a side-chain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364726.msg13983249#msg13983249 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364726.msg13983249#msg13983249)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 27, 2016, 06:45:20 PM
Post of Vrontis:
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/showpost.html?msg=25Fc78H8pDW3vRQHa4FLKXx9Ag7bqGNmCwPr7x7cV7cTRJjGpQsGbAuqwVTwQS6bRRzgk5Ebd4nBBVY57Wx2zNGS


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 27, 2016, 09:46:05 PM
In development is a app for smartphones. For Android and IOS.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on February 28, 2016, 03:38:18 AM
Post of Vrontis:
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/showpost.html?msg=25Fc78H8pDW3vRQHa4FLKXx9Ag7bqGNmCwPr7x7cV7cTRJjGpQsGbAuqwVTwQS6bRRzgk5Ebd4nBBVY57Wx2zNGS

 @ Vrontis, thank you for all your hard work on Qora, please stay in contact with the community :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on February 28, 2016, 03:40:33 AM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?


For those not following NXT, I have been divorced from NXT.

https://nxtforum.org/core-development-discussion/nxt-2-0-design/msg210601/#msg210601

The above is my last post in the NXT forum, unless the fNXT plan is revoked. fNXT is not NXT and NXT lifetime is limited, so we will need to migrate the NXT assets to a different blockchain.

Now before you panic, I like to make lemonade out of lemons, so like BC2 led to iguana, fNXT has led to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372879

A passport system for assets that allows the asset holder to decide the blockchain they want to reside in. While the PoS mechanism is fully protecting the NXT holders as designed, it allows the creation of a hardfork that ignores other parts of the ecosystem, like assets.

This is a problem for any derivative. The core PoS or PoW or PoAnything will only protect the interests of the stakeholders, miners or whatever, that the block consensus algorithm uses. As such the hardfork attack vector is a very real and actual in the case of fNXT hardfork.

So while the PoS ensures that the NXT holders (including SuperNET) will vote for the fNXT hardfork out of their fiduciary duty to maximize revenues, there are no protections for asset holders or issuers. In some sense the PoS worked too well, instead of not well enough and it needs to be weakened.

Does this mean decentralized assets are dead?
Not at all!

This attack vector directly led me to create a solution, namely blockchain independent assets that is blockchain enforced. It does require all participating blockchains to implement an asset passport protocol, but the ones that do will allow for free travel among them.

blockchains with iron curtains that dont allow anybody to come in, still wont be able to prevent assets from leaving as long as there is a burn mechanism. So far all blockchains I have seen have either a direct burn method, or one can be devised.

That means that any blockchain that doesnt support asset immigration, is subject to a oneway outflow to ones that do. This is basically the SuperNET concept applied to assets and iguana tech will build into BTCD the ability to trade against BTC using BTCD's one minute block times but to be able to coldstore idle assets in the BTC blockchain. Even if they are in cold storage, it just means that they cannot be traded and all the dividends they earn will still go to your account.

How does this protect assets from the hardfork attack?
Simple. If an upcoming hardfork threatens your interests, just move to a different blockchain.

Even if a blockchain just increases taxes (txfees) and you want a lower cost blockchain, you can move.

If a blockchain just is slow to create useful tech, you can move to one that does.

By distributing an asset across multiple decentralized (or even distributed) blockchains appears to be the best protection available to derived crypto. The alternative is a new blockchain for each asset using itself as its PoS with blocks generated only when there is a transaction. Private chains are coming, but this seems excessive use of the blockchain "hammer" from the toolkit. And it creates a massive N*N problem of cross chain transactions for all such assetchains.

With asset passports, you just reside your assets where you are most actively using the local blockchain and since trading against the native currency of the blockchain is most efficient (it better be!) you will be able to take advantage of this affinity. But if ever some storm clouds appear, you can simply move to a safer blockchain.

BTC is here to stay. Certainly as the reference currency, but even the tech development pace is starting to accelerate, so this is encouraging for all of crypto. iguana is achieving less than an hour BTC blockchain sync for full 60 GB blockchain, so the problem I used to think was so big a problem is not so big anymore. bitcoin 0.12 supports pruning, so HDD space is also going to be an issue not so important. Most importantly, I will be able to run a bitcoind node on my laptop!

So why not everything BTC? Well if you ever are waiting for a trade to go through, you know that waiting even a minute is a long time. Try waiting 10 minutes. Just not a good experience. So I will make a hybrid system combining the speed of BTCD 1 minute blocks with BTC for long term storage. Trading against BTC should really be a requirement, but not sure if all passport enable blockchains will be able to do this, so it would probably need to be a strong recommendation.

iguana unites all the bitcoin compatibles using technology. It is inching toward completion and we even have a freelancer based GUI dev team now, using fully open source development.

docs.supernet.org shows the API and in spite of the external events that keep happening to cause delays, we still march on. This is a marathon and we will complete it.

James

P.S. Before any NXT holder panics, do not worry, NXT peoples are doing everything they can, literally, to make sure NXT goes up, so it seems pretty likely that NXT price will do just fine. I just have some ideological and technical disagreements and since I have no actual power within NXT, I was forced to move.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on February 28, 2016, 06:12:05 AM
Hi guys
Saw you guys got a mention over at BTCD thread..... so just bought some and decided to join the party.....just waiting for wallet to sync.......how many coins needed to forge?

Cheers Jon  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on February 28, 2016, 06:36:32 AM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?
...

This guy is the king of vaporware and bullshit assets associated with such. I hope he stays far away from Qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on February 28, 2016, 07:32:50 AM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?
...

This guy is the king of vaporware and bullshit assets associated with such. I hope he stays far away from Qora.

And may I ask what projects you have coded/released.........I'm reluctant to be critical of those who do what I cannot.

Cheers Jon  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on February 28, 2016, 02:15:54 PM
In development is a app for smartphones. For Android and IOS.

Great news!! We were waiting for this!

@Vrontis: take care, thank you for all the hard work you've done for Qora


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on February 28, 2016, 03:17:08 PM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?
...

This guy is the king of vaporware and bullshit assets associated with such. I hope he stays far away from Qora.

And may I ask what projects you have coded/released.........I'm reluctant to be critical of those who do what I cannot.

Cheers Jon  ;)

He hasn't actually released anything afaik except a shitty GUI for the NXT dex. I've actually made several shitty GUIs myself:
https://github.com/jwinterm/lightWallet
https://github.com/jwinterm/kivy-cpuminer
https://github.com/jwinterm/LightWallet2

His main thing is making clone coins and NXT assets, promising some revolutionary tech to hype it, then never delivering. Don't sell yourself short, you can be a scam artist too ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on February 28, 2016, 08:10:53 PM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?
...

This guy is the king of vaporware and bullshit assets associated with such. I hope he stays far away from Qora.

And may I ask what projects you have coded/released.........I'm reluctant to be critical of those who do what I cannot.

Cheers Jon  ;)

He hasn't actually released anything afaik except a shitty GUI for the NXT dex. I've actually made several shitty GUIs myself:
https://github.com/jwinterm/lightWallet
https://github.com/jwinterm/kivy-cpuminer
https://github.com/jwinterm/LightWallet2

His main thing is making clone coins and NXT assets, promising some revolutionary tech to hype it, then never delivering. Don't sell yourself short, you can be a scam artist too ;)

Thank you for your reply. Having delivered some tech gives your opinion some cred. As for myself, life's too short waste my time scamming others.

Cheers Jon  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 28, 2016, 11:46:53 PM
Added support for translation Qora into different languages. Ready translation into Russian language. And work has begun on a Chinese translation.
Who wants to translate into their native language?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: m4nki on February 29, 2016, 01:01:13 AM
Added support for translation Qora into different languages. Ready translation into Russian language. And work has begun on a Chinese translation.
Who wants to translate into their native language?

I can help with a German translation. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on February 29, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
I can help with a German translation. :)
Excellent! I sent you a private message.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on February 29, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?
...

This guy is the king of vaporware and bullshit assets associated with such. I hope he stays far away from Qora.

Not true! I've been using jl777's MGW (multigateway) to store a proportion of my bitcoins in secure mutlisig accounts for over a year now. I've also started using the SuperNET lite wallet to access them which takes just a few seconds without any need to download and sync the NXT blockchain. I run it off of a usb, extremely secure and very convenient!! That's not vaporware, and jl777 has literally tens of thousands of lines of completed back-end code now for most of his other projects including InstantDEX and Iguana and Pangea. If you doubt this go and check his github.

What he lacks is GUI devs and people testing, but that's not really his fault, is it. IMO his portable asset protocol between blockchains is a really good idea, and I hope Qora devs consider following the project and participating if possible.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: l8orre on February 29, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
jl777 has finally decided to get a divorce from NXT. This might be a great opportunity for Qora. Can the dev team reach out to jl777 and work with him on his asset passport idea?
...

This guy is the king of vaporware and bullshit assets associated with such. I hope he stays far away from Qora.

Not true! I've been using jl777's MGW (multigateway) to store a proportion of my bitcoins in secure mutlisig accounts for over a year now. I've also started using the SuperNET lite wallet to access them which takes just a few seconds without any need to download and sync the NXT blockchain. I run it off of a usb, extremely secure and very convenient!! That's not vaporware, and jl777 has literally tens of thousands of lines of completed back-end code now for most of his other projects including InstantDEX and Iguana and Pangea. If you doubt this go and check his github.

What he lacks is GUI devs and people testing, but that's not really his fault, is it. IMO his portable asset protocol between blockchains is a really good idea, and I hope Qora devs consider following the project and participating if possible.

dito. moronic hogwash.

I have been receiving weekly dividends in SuperBTC and SuperBTCD from assets I have, and without running BTC or BTCD wallet I was able to have actual BTC and BTCD sent to my POLO account from the SuperNET Lite wallet.
 


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on February 29, 2016, 08:51:35 PM
Hi everyone,

Im running 0.25.1 but I have no connections, firewall and router are open. Actually It was working throught the weekend, till today. Any peers I need to add ?

thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 01, 2016, 06:40:30 AM
Hi everyone,

Im running 0.25.1 but I have no connections, firewall and router are open. Actually It was working throught the weekend, till today. Any peers I need to add ?

thanks

Did you try to restart the application? Did any exception occur? In windows version there is a error.txt please check it. In universal version the error might be visible in commandline window.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on March 02, 2016, 07:50:15 AM
Hi guys
I have downloaded and installed 0.25.1, I'm having problems trying to quit the program. I have used the quit option from menu, however the program just hangs with message about saving data. Any suggestions?  

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit: I'm running it on  Windows 7 Home  Premium 64-Bit


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 02, 2016, 04:43:36 PM
Hi guys
I have downloaded and installed 0.25.1, I'm having problems trying to quit the program. I have used the quit option from menu, however the program just hangs with message about saving data. Any suggestions?  

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit: I'm running it on  Windows 7 Home  Premium 64-Bit

Is this always happening or only occasionally? It should close after at least 10 seconds. Can you give some more information regarding your system, what cpu do you have?

Are you using the windows version?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on March 02, 2016, 10:11:21 PM
Hi guys
I have downloaded and installed 0.25.1, I'm having problems trying to quit the program. I have used the quit option from menu, however the program just hangs with message about saving data. Any suggestions?  

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit: I'm running it on  Windows 7 Home  Premium 64-Bit

Is this always happening or only occasionally? It should close after at least 10 seconds. Can you give some more information regarding your system, what cpu do you have?

Are you using the windows version?

I've downloaded blockchain from file and deleted data file and wallet then reentered seed, had to do this 3 times but everything finally seems stable. Wallet now quits within a few seconds and restarts no problem.

Thank you for your reply

Cheers Jon  8)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: nickenburg on March 02, 2016, 11:26:40 PM
I have been keeping a eye on this coin for a while now.
And it is just stable at like 8-12 satoshi, is this still a good investment?
Because it doesn't seem to take off yet, And what price can this coin reach?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kahir on March 02, 2016, 11:53:50 PM
I have been keeping a eye on this coin for a while now.
And it is just stable at like 8-12 satoshi, is this still a good investment?
Because it doesn't seem to take off yet, And what price can this coin reach?


just don't


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 03, 2016, 10:13:07 AM
In Qora you can create Automated Transactions with a real programming language.

Documentation and services:
http://ciyam.org/at/
http://smartcontr.actor/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on March 03, 2016, 10:20:28 AM
In Qora you can create Automated Transactions with a real programming language.

Documentation and services:
http://ciyam.org/at/
http://smartcontr.actor/


So many good features with Qora, I wonder why it stays undervalued. Maybe that is due to the missing initial hype and community growth? It seems to me that whenever an upwards move is attempted, people (or whales) dump it  and keep it low


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wildduck on March 04, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
Yes i agree with you mate such a good project with so many good features.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Keyare on March 04, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
Slack inviter down?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 04, 2016, 08:44:13 PM
Slack inviter down?

Send your login to qora.team@gmail.com


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on March 05, 2016, 11:00:44 AM
Good work with the mobile development guys.


@anyone on QORA team... would you guys be interested in running another ACCT with me and BURST, so we can show the process on a video? (I would need instruction, and various whatnots, but I could do the video upon completing said instructions.)


I am doing a lot for BURST and want to start including QORA in as much as possible. Let me know! Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 05, 2016, 08:40:01 PM
Slack inviter down?

http://slack.qora.co.in/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 06, 2016, 04:03:28 AM
Now I'm working on a block Explorer. Will soon be able to view information simultaneously for multiple accounts. And some other improvements.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on March 06, 2016, 04:25:21 AM
Qora is great!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on March 07, 2016, 04:29:58 AM
Reserved.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 07, 2016, 07:27:49 AM
Now in the blocks Explorer you can view the information at once for several addresses.
For example:
http://mirror.qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QWcVTQqdXPEcMc5A4GPuGQEBCLiAPxkALy&addr=QPcqohrUhU5bHopZTjY9cpZGp8eYzFrwbe&addr=Qcyd1D4ZEMfCT5YhwwLxZwz2WUSaKCYbEk
In the search box address must be entered separated by commas. Up to 10 addresses.

Now the transaction is not displayed sorted by creation time, and the order of addition to the block.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptKeeper on March 07, 2016, 07:30:15 AM
I like those small changes which nicely improves usability!  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wildduck on March 07, 2016, 07:34:28 AM
I generaly love Qora and every new change always makes me happy.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on March 07, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
Hi guys
Do we have any known network issues? it's just my wallet is just sitting there trying to sync with no change to the block height

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit:  I have 3 know connected peers


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 07, 2016, 08:37:14 AM
Hi guys
Do we have any known network issues? it's just my wallet is just sitting there trying to sync with no change to the block height

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit:  I have 3 know connected peers
Version 0.25.1 ? Try to restart the computer. Or delete the data folder.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on March 07, 2016, 08:58:23 AM
Hi guys
Do we have any known network issues? it's just my wallet is just sitting there trying to sync with no change to the block height

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit:  I have 3 know connected peers
Version 0.25.1 ? Try to restart the computer. Or delete the data folder.


yes  showing no connections at present.... I've done both including total delete and reinstall

Edit:  I have 4 know connected peers and have had some increase in block height.... I think we just need more wallets running

Cheers Jon  :-[


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 07, 2016, 06:46:49 PM
yes  showing no connections at present.... I've done both including total delete and reinstall

Edit:  I have 4 know connected peers and have had some increase in block height.... I think we just need more wallets running

Cheers Jon  :-[
When the initial sync block counter is updated with a delay.  In real time you can look at Debug->Blocks.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on March 09, 2016, 12:38:26 AM
yes  showing no connections at present.... I've done both including total delete and reinstall

Edit:  I have 4 know connected peers and have had some increase in block height.... I think we just need more wallets running

Cheers Jon  :-[
When the initial sync block counter is updated with a delay.  In real time you can look at Debug->Blocks.
I only have outgoing connections no incoming even with firewalls disabled.
Is this a known problem ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 09, 2016, 02:49:03 AM
I only have outgoing connections no incoming even with firewalls disabled.
Is this a known problem ?
You have the white address?
Here you can check: http://ping.eu/ping/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: PrimusInterPares on March 09, 2016, 07:56:42 PM
Having the same problem at the moment. Maybe my nodes list is outdated. Any working list available?

Hi guys
Do we have any known network issues? it's just my wallet is just sitting there trying to sync with no change to the block height

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit:  I have 3 know connected peers


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 09, 2016, 08:59:01 PM
Having the same problem at the moment. Maybe my nodes list is outdated. Any working list available?

Hi guys
Do we have any known network issues? it's just my wallet is just sitting there trying to sync with no change to the block height

Cheers Jon  ???

Edit:  I have 3 know connected peers

http://qora.co.in/?nodes


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on March 09, 2016, 11:59:17 PM
I only have outgoing connections no incoming even with firewalls disabled.
Is this a known problem ?
You have the white address?
Here you can check: http://ping.eu/ping/
The address shown by that site is correct.
But maybe ip gets not correctly detected by Qora.
Had that problem with I2P, untill I set ip manually.
How can I set ip and port manually ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 10, 2016, 03:21:34 AM
The address shown by that site is correct.
But maybe ip gets not correctly detected by Qora.
Had that problem with I2P, untill I set ip manually.
How can I set ip and port manually ?
Qora uses port 9084.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on March 10, 2016, 08:30:32 AM
The address shown by that site is correct.
But maybe ip gets not correctly detected by Qora.
Had that problem with I2P, untill I set ip manually.
How can I set ip and port manually ?
Qora uses port 9084.

Wrong questions, sorry.
How can I change default port number ?
How can I override auto detect ip from Qora and set it manually.
As you know these settings are common in every p2p app.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptKeeper on March 10, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
Today we have a rise of 71.43% at poloniex.  :o
 
Does anybody know what's going on? Any good news?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on March 10, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Today we have a rise of 71.43% at poloniex.  :o
 
Does anybody know what's going on? Any good news?
qora will fly


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: altfolio on March 10, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Have you tried out AltFolio yet? Flexible Portfolio Tool.

Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora) and bter (https://bter.com/trade/qora_btc) are already supported.
How much is ccedk really used? Wondering if I add it to ...

AltFolio.ddns.net (http://AltFolio.ddns.net)

?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: helloge on March 10, 2016, 02:24:31 PM
Today we have a rise of 71.43% at poloniex.  :o
 
Does anybody know what's going on? Any good news?
BIG BUY ORDER SUPPORT.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: HillieWood on March 10, 2016, 07:47:09 PM
Do you guys expect the price to rise in the foreseeable future? 75% up in one day often comes with a dip in the price.

Furthermore, http://slack.qora.org/ is down. I get the following error:

Application Error
An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. Please try again in a few moments.

If you are the application owner, check your logs for details.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 10, 2016, 07:52:15 PM
Do you guys expect the price to rise in the foreseeable future? 75% up in one day often comes with a dip in the price.

Furthermore, http://slack.qora.org/ is down. I get the following error:

Application Error
An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. Please try again in a few moments.

If you are the application owner, check your logs for details.
New link http://slack.qora.co.in


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: HillieWood on March 10, 2016, 08:19:21 PM
Do you guys expect the price to rise in the foreseeable future? 75% up in one day often comes with a dip in the price.

Furthermore, http://slack.qora.org/ is down. I get the following error:

Application Error
An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. Please try again in a few moments.

If you are the application owner, check your logs for details.
New link http://slack.qora.co.in

Cheers!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 11, 2016, 01:57:31 AM
Continues the development of mobile applications for ios and android.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on March 11, 2016, 02:14:56 AM
Hi everyone,

Im running 0.25.1 but I have no connections, firewall and router are open. Actually It was working throught the weekend, till today. Any peers I need to add ?

thanks

Did you try to restart the application? Did any exception occur? In windows version there is a error.txt please check it. In universal version the error might be visible in commandline window.

No luck, restarted de app, then de OS. Now I moved to Linux to try, and the same. Is there any way I can add peers manually?

thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on March 11, 2016, 02:42:27 AM
Hi everyone,

Im running 0.25.1 but I have no connections, firewall and router are open. Actually It was working throught the weekend, till today. Any peers I need to add ?

thanks

Did you try to restart the application? Did any exception occur? In windows version there is a error.txt please check it. In universal version the error might be visible in commandline window.

No luck, restarted de app, then de OS. Now I moved to Linux to try, and the same. Is there any way I can add peers manually?

thanks

Soo, edited the settings file... and added the nodes/peers from http://qora.co.in/?nodes and now its syncing blazzing fast. so heres the file just copy paste!

{
   "knownpeers":[
      "188.166.53.239"
      "198.199.103.12"
      "193.242.148.251"
      "188.166.16.64"
      "65.191.164.32"
      "203.87.156.149"
      "106.187.42.214"
      "106.186.122.39"
      "104.172.66.205"
      "61.186.94.151"

   ],
   "rpcallowed":[
      "127.0.0.1"
   ],
   "weballowed":[
      "127.0.0.1"
   ],
   "guienabled":true,
   "rpcenabled":true,
   "webenabled":true,
   "systray":true,
   "maxconnections":100,
   "minconnections":10,
   "generatorkeycaching":true,
   "checkpoint":true,
   "soundreceivepayment":true,
   "soundnewtransaction":true,
   "soundreceivemessage":true
}

Will add more nodes if anyone needs them.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 11, 2016, 03:28:58 AM
Soo, edited the settings file... and added the nodes/peers from http://qora.co.in/?nodes and now its syncing blazzing fast. so heres the file just copy paste!

{
   "knownpeers":[
      "188.166.53.239"
      "198.199.103.12"
      "193.242.148.251"
      "188.166.16.64"
      "65.191.164.32"
      "203.87.156.149"
      "106.187.42.214"
      "106.186.122.39"
      "104.172.66.205"
      "61.186.94.151"

   ],

necessary commas:
Quote
   "knownpeers":[
      "188.166.53.239",
      "198.199.103.12",
      "193.242.148.251",
      "188.166.16.64",
      "65.191.164.32",
      "203.87.156.149",
      "106.187.42.214",
      "106.186.122.39",
      "104.172.66.205",
      "61.186.94.151"
   ],


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on March 11, 2016, 02:34:55 PM
Ok, So the new client installation worked, its up to date with the network. One little problem, Im away from home, and I dont have the wallet.dat with my Qora with me. It could be a couple of days before I get back.

I entered the old wallet seed on the new setup, but I got new addresses. how can I retrieve my original wallet?

thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: XMShowcase on March 11, 2016, 03:04:09 PM
interesting because:

1. The new Dev
2. Always update
3. Big support buy at Poloniex

I hope these coins returned victorious (UP)  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on March 11, 2016, 03:10:34 PM
The address shown by that site is correct.
But maybe ip gets not correctly detected by Qora.
Had that problem with I2P, untill I set ip manually.
How can I set ip and port manually ?
Qora uses port 9084.

Wrong questions, sorry.
How can I change default port number ?
How can I override auto detect ip from Qora and set it manually.
As you know these settings are common in every p2p app.


Does the Qora app accept connections other than the default port?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 11, 2016, 03:18:27 PM
The address shown by that site is correct.
But maybe ip gets not correctly detected by Qora.
Had that problem with I2P, untill I set ip manually.
How can I set ip and port manually ?
Qora uses port 9084.

Wrong questions, sorry.
How can I change default port number ?
How can I override auto detect ip from Qora and set it manually.
As you know these settings are common in every p2p app.


Does the Qora app accept connections other than the default port?

The port is currently hardcoded, but should be no big deal to make it editable using the settings.json.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 11, 2016, 03:25:39 PM
Ok, So the new client installation worked, its up to date with the network. One little problem, Im away from home, and I dont have the wallet.dat with my Qora with me. It could be a couple of days before I get back.

I entered the old wallet seed on the new setup, but I got new addresses. how can I retrieve my original wallet?

thanks

The same seed always gets same addresses no matter what version you use. Maybe you did not recover enough addresses?
Are you sure your addresses are wrong and that you used the same seed?

Keep in mind that balances are not refreshed directly during initial synchronisation!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 11, 2016, 06:14:37 PM
Small development update:
Now it is possible to transfer qora or assets when you change the namestorage.
In v0.26 if you like a blogpost you will automatically transfer 10 Qora to the postcreator, so good posts will be rewarded by the people liking a post.

This can be changed of course if the community does not want it, but I think 10 Qora won't hurt anyone and it's a small revenue for all people that create good posts.
This feature allows multipayments so e.g. we could think of sending Qora also to an AT or something.

Any suggestions are welcome.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on March 11, 2016, 06:17:17 PM
Ok, So the new client installation worked, its up to date with the network. One little problem, Im away from home, and I dont have the wallet.dat with my Qora with me. It could be a couple of days before I get back.

I entered the old wallet seed on the new setup, but I got new addresses. how can I retrieve my original wallet?

thanks

The same seed always gets same addresses no matter what version you use. Maybe you did not recover enough addresses?
Are you sure your addresses are wrong and that you used the same seed?

Keep in mind that balances are not refreshed directly during initial synchronisation!
On ver 24 I used the default number of addresses. Yes the seed is the same I copy/paste from the original to a file. Yes the sync is over and up to date. Maybe the issue is that I got other addresses different from the originals.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 11, 2016, 07:00:02 PM
https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQoraPure/releases/download/1.2.0/VanitygenQoraPure.1.2.0.zip

java -jar VanitygenQoraPure.jar {seed} {count}

Will show {count} the addresses of this {seed}. If you are running the wallet on the same computer, with the balances.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: XMShowcase on March 11, 2016, 09:00:49 PM
please give me a tutorial with images the way fast synchronization qora data folders.
I have downloaded all the files required in http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

after that what should I do?
please provide the steps along with a picture of how fast synchronization.

Thanks  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 12, 2016, 12:04:42 AM
please give me a tutorial with images the way fast synchronization qora data folders.
I have downloaded all the files required in http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

after that what should I do?
please provide the steps along with a picture of how fast synchronization.

Thanks  :)

If you uses Windows version, then unzip and copy data folder to %appdata%\Qora


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Poly#Crypto on March 12, 2016, 12:13:12 AM
please give me a tutorial with images the way fast synchronization qora data folders.
I have downloaded all the files required in http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

after that what should I do?
please provide the steps along with a picture of how fast synchronization.

Thanks  :)


http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

Quote
1) make sure that the seed is saved
2) close wallet
3) delete 'wallet' and 'data' folder in qora folder
4) put 'data'-folder from the downloaded archive in qora folder
5) run wallet
6) restore wallet from seed.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: XMShowcase on March 12, 2016, 06:33:32 AM
please give me a tutorial with images the way fast synchronization qora data folders.
I have downloaded all the files required in http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

after that what should I do?
please provide the steps along with a picture of how fast synchronization.

Thanks  :)

If you uses Windows version, then unzip and copy data folder to %appdata%\Qora

nice, now my wallet synchronizing at 98%  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: foxkyu on March 18, 2016, 06:33:00 AM
Hi, is anyone here having withdrawal problem from bter exchange?

I've withdraw my qora 1 week ago but still not process it yet.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 18, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
Hi, is anyone here having withdrawal problem from bter exchange?

I've withdraw my qora 1 week ago but still not process it yet.

There are plenty of people having problems with Bter! I suggest to avoid using BTER and use CCEDK and Poloniex instead!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wesiematic on March 18, 2016, 11:22:16 AM
Hi, is anyone here having withdrawal problem from bter exchange?

I've withdraw my qora 1 week ago but still not process it yet.

There are plenty of people having problems with Bter! I suggest to avoid using BTER and use CCEDK and Poloniex instead!

I can confirm it, i'm missing a nice amount of Qora since 1 year, i wrote several times to the support, but obviously they are not able or willing to fix it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on March 18, 2016, 11:22:50 AM
I am also missing a 5m deposit @Bter


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 18, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Next version will support multi-language:
We currently have translations for the GUI for russian and chinese:

Here is the translation file for russian language:
https://github.com/Qoracoin/translations/blob/master/0.26.0%20beta/languages/ru.json

if you are able to translate to another language feel free to help.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Coin-Moron on March 19, 2016, 05:54:37 AM
Where could i try the decentralised storage?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: thandie on March 19, 2016, 09:41:25 AM

Hi Guys

Regarding the memory usage and performance, is it possible to run the Qora wallet on a Raspberry to forging?

Thanks in advance


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 19, 2016, 12:01:41 PM

Hi Guys

Regarding the memory usage and performance, is it possible to run the Qora wallet on a Raspberry to forging?

Thanks in advance

The light-wallet might work on a raspberry! If you have one please give it a try and report if that works. If I remember well someone already did that with a raspberry like computer.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bhokor on March 19, 2016, 12:19:36 PM
Next version will support multi-language:
We currently have translations for the GUI for russian and chinese:

Here is the translation file for russian language:
https://github.com/Qoracoin/translations/blob/master/0.26.0%20beta/languages/ru.json

if you are able to translate to another language feel free to help.

I can do the spanish translation, but there are some bounty for do that?, only is needed translate the json file?. i have 0 qoras actually if i can get some i would be nice, let me know Skerberus


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: foxkyu on March 19, 2016, 12:28:42 PM
Hi, is anyone here having withdrawal problem from bter exchange?

I've withdraw my qora 1 week ago but still not process it yet.

There are plenty of people having problems with Bter! I suggest to avoid using BTER and use CCEDK and Poloniex instead!

I can confirm it, i'm missing a nice amount of Qora since 1 year, i wrote several times to the support, but obviously they are not able or willing to fix it.
Well that was a bad. So this happen long time ago and they never try to fix it.

Can dev here contact them for help them to fix their problem?




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 19, 2016, 12:59:46 PM
Where could i try the decentralised storage?

http://qora.co.in:9090/skerberus/tutorials

The website part also explains how to upload arbitrary files. Keep in mind that max  filesize is currently around 150 kb.
Here is an example file in blockchain
http://qora.co.in:9090/2ndtest/nature


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 19, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
Hi, is anyone here having withdrawal problem from bter exchange?

I've withdraw my qora 1 week ago but still not process it yet.

There are plenty of people having problems with Bter! I suggest to avoid using BTER and use CCEDK and Poloniex instead!

I can confirm it, i'm missing a nice amount of Qora since 1 year, i wrote several times to the support, but obviously they are not able or willing to fix it.
Well that was a bad. So this happen long time ago and they never try to fix it.

Can dev here contact them for help them to fix their problem?




I contacted them a dozen times, they never answer unfortunately. They are not cooperating.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 19, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
Next version will support multi-language:
We currently have translations for the GUI for russian and chinese:

Here is the translation file for russian language:
https://github.com/Qoracoin/translations/blob/master/0.26.0%20beta/languages/ru.json

if you are able to translate to another language feel free to help.

I can do the spanish translation, but there are some bounty for do that?, only is needed translate the json file?. i have 0 qoras actually if i can get some i would be nice, let me know Skerberus

Spanish translation is currently done by the user fiazk in slack. There are currently no bounties, we probably need to collect funds for that using the crowdfund AT, but it's not ready yet.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptKeeper on March 19, 2016, 11:24:32 PM
Everybody who is interested in Qora should join slack!  ;D

Please go to http://slack.qora.co.in (http://slack.qora.co.in) and enter your email address to receive the slack invitation.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: pinballdude on March 20, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
Stumbled upon qora bc it is often mentioned in our burst coin forum (both coins have AT, and i think they have a working AT exchange functionality, at least experimental).

I cannot find any info about how the coins that you get for staking are created or calculated. Are they simply the transaction fees, or are new coins put into existance, creating inflation, or some other scheme i haven't though of?

I am considering investing in some qora, but in general i don't touch cryptos where my holdings gets inflated away in all eternity (i'm okay with inflation in the distribution phase, as we have it with BTC and burst and many others)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on March 20, 2016, 08:27:51 PM
Stumbled upon qora bc it is often mentioned in our burst coin forum (both coins have AT, and i think they have a working AT exchange functionality, at least experimental).

I cannot find any info about how the coins that you get for staking are created or calculated. Are they simply the transaction fees, or are new coins put into existance, creating inflation, or some other scheme i haven't though of?

I am considering investing in some qora, but in general i don't touch cryptos where my holdings gets inflated away in all eternity (i'm okay with inflation in the distribution phase, as we have it with BTC and burst and many others)



Simply tx fees. Read my lips, no new qora :P


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: pinballdude on March 20, 2016, 10:24:41 PM
Stumbled upon qora bc it is often mentioned in our burst coin forum (both coins have AT, and i think they have a working AT exchange functionality, at least experimental).

I cannot find any info about how the coins that you get for staking are created or calculated. Are they simply the transaction fees, or are new coins put into existance, creating inflation, or some other scheme i haven't though of?

I am considering investing in some qora, but in general i don't touch cryptos where my holdings gets inflated away in all eternity (i'm okay with inflation in the distribution phase, as we have it with BTC and burst and many others)



Simply tx fees. Read my lips, no new qora :P

Thanks, Great to hear, and good to see that this works (attracts enough ppl wanting to run nodes to keep the chain safe)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 21, 2016, 10:45:34 AM
26 version will be released in about a week.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Take the red pill on March 21, 2016, 10:46:27 AM
Will Qora move over 100sat  ???


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wosterlee on March 21, 2016, 07:02:30 PM
Will Qora move over 100sat  ???

Well it needs a 4,5 million USD price injection to reach 100 sat. That will take some time.

Does anybody know where I can find a roadmap for Qora? What is the estimated development time? When will the marketing team start?

What is the ultimate goal for Qora? Bitcoinkiller?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Xtrata on March 22, 2016, 02:17:31 PM
26 version will be released in about a week.


Where can I find more information about this?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 22, 2016, 04:58:34 PM
26 version will be released in about a week.


Where can I find more information about this?

The next version will atleast contain the following enhancements:
-Multi-language support
-Blockexplorer Enhancements
-Ability to Disable Forging
-Multipayments when changing Namestorage
-Improved error logging

we will also completly switch to java 8, so you will need java 8 to run qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: s0nix on March 22, 2016, 11:37:03 PM
For staking my Qora, do I have to activate Forging?



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 23, 2016, 06:36:39 AM
For staking my Qora, do I have to activate Forging?



Yes! Open your wallet and unlock it once. You can also lock it again after that, it will still forge as soon as it is synchronized.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: s0nix on March 23, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
For staking my Qora, do I have to activate Forging?



Yes! Open your wallet and unlock it once. You can also lock it again after that, it will still forge as soon as it is synchronized.

You mean when the Wallet has synchronized, I choose the option Unlock for 2 Minutes for example... then the forging is enabled (green)?

By the way:
Is this the official thread now?
Because I have found this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1015379.1440, where people also post comments.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 23, 2016, 10:01:35 AM
For staking my Qora, do I have to activate Forging?



Yes! Open your wallet and unlock it once. You can also lock it again after that, it will still forge as soon as it is synchronized.

You mean when the Wallet has synchronized, I choose the option Unlock for 2 Minutes for example... then the forging is enabled (green)?

By the way:
Is this the official thread now?
Because I have found this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1015379.1440, where people also post comments.


Yes unlock two minutes is enough for that. And yes this is the official thread!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: s0nix on March 23, 2016, 10:31:14 AM
For staking my Qora, do I have to activate Forging?



Yes! Open your wallet and unlock it once. You can also lock it again after that, it will still forge as soon as it is synchronized.

You mean when the Wallet has synchronized, I choose the option Unlock for 2 Minutes for example... then the forging is enabled (green)?

By the way:
Is this the official thread now?
Because I have found this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1015379.1440, where people also post comments.


Yes unlock two minutes is enough for that. And yes this is the official thread!

Great.
Thanks for your quick responses.




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xchrix on March 23, 2016, 11:47:09 AM
finally i found the right thread.. looks like there are 4 qora threads
what about the recent price move?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: m4nki on March 23, 2016, 11:59:58 AM
Also am following. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: KyLins on March 23, 2016, 12:36:02 PM
Re-emergence
very good :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Airfloyd on March 23, 2016, 12:50:46 PM
Nice ! I'm Buying :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on March 23, 2016, 01:29:30 PM
26 version will be released in about a week.


Where can I find more information about this?

The next version will atleast contain the following enhancements:
-Multi-language support
-Blockexplorer Enhancements
-Ability to Disable Forging
-Multipayments when changing Namestorage
-Improved error logging

we will also completly switch to java 8, so you will need java 8 to run qora.
Any work done on getting a solid database ?
Right now any uncontrolled shut-down of program seems to corrupt it.
The backing up of the complete database should not be needed.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Poly#Crypto on March 23, 2016, 01:43:42 PM
Yes, a jumble of threads... :)

That's why I just twittered: https://twitter.com/Polycrypto/status/712632914635276289




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ashi404 on March 23, 2016, 03:45:46 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on March 23, 2016, 03:52:36 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



You'll need to contact Bter I suspect. I haven't used them since there last hack over a year ago so not sure what's up actually.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on March 23, 2016, 03:54:20 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



Bter withdrawing of Qora is not working - for month now!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ashi404 on March 23, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



Bter withdrawing of Qora is not working - for month now!

Does that mean my coin is gone? Or will bter going to compensate for the coin? thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: seek4dream on March 23, 2016, 04:15:07 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



It also happened to me just now.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on March 23, 2016, 04:19:06 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



Bter withdrawing of Qora is not working - for month now!

Does that mean my coin is gone? Or will bter going to compensate for the coin? thanks!

Your Qora coins are now in the wallet of Bter - I suspect. They seem not to be interested to solve their problems of withdrawing!
Our devs have contacted them several times (they reported so), but Bter is not cooperating... Let us hope the new wallet will finally help to bring a solution for the probelms of Bter with Qora


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on March 23, 2016, 04:46:06 PM
Bter are thieves , they have my coins since august


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on March 23, 2016, 04:49:18 PM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



You'll need to contact Bter I suspect. I haven't used them since there last hack over a year ago so not sure what's up actually.



It wont help i wrote them about 50 or 80 messages and they just keep lying about wallet problems.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on March 23, 2016, 04:53:20 PM
 its my deposit to Bter as you can see they even forged 2 blocks with my qoras     signature: 37kacJizZayRsAgwXABprxgu7oPW8yHVnCLXs82KyJzMPYybbeuj8KDAe5HJTQ8Ngz986ntqeATxST7 CiC6PSxao


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 23, 2016, 05:16:15 PM
Yes BTER is not cooperating. I offered them help multiple times but never got an answer.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bigrcanada1 on March 23, 2016, 05:35:58 PM
I'm a long term holder of Qora...just looking to see what all the new fuss is about and whats new here.  Also...is it possible to get all the old Qora bitcointalk pages deleted?  Its pretty confusing to navigate the maze of pages to get here.  Thoughts?  Who's our current Dev?  Cheers.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 23, 2016, 05:53:37 PM
I'm a long term holder of Qora...just looking to see what all the new fuss is about and whats new here.  Also...is it possible to get all the old Qora bitcointalk pages deleted?  Its pretty confusing to navigate the maze of pages to get here.  Thoughts?  Who's our current Dev?  Cheers.

Unfortunately not, because the owner of the old threads lost access or are not around anymore.
Current devteam is agran, vbcs, maple and skerberus


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bigrcanada1 on March 23, 2016, 06:30:45 PM
I'm a long term holder of Qora...just looking to see what all the new fuss is about and whats new here.  Also...is it possible to get all the old Qora bitcointalk pages deleted?  Its pretty confusing to navigate the maze of pages to get here.  Thoughts?  Who's our current Dev?  Cheers.

Unfortunately not, because the owner of the old threads lost access or are not around anymore.
Current devteam is agran, vbcs, maple and skerberus

I see....it makes for messy searching thats for certain.  Do you have a preferred forum for discussion on what is being worked on in regards to Qora now?  Any idea why the current interest?  Thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 23, 2016, 07:14:06 PM
I'm a long term holder of Qora...just looking to see what all the new fuss is about and whats new here.  Also...is it possible to get all the old Qora bitcointalk pages deleted?  Its pretty confusing to navigate the maze of pages to get here.  Thoughts?  Who's our current Dev?  Cheers.

Unfortunately not, because the owner of the old threads lost access or are not around anymore.
Current devteam is agran, vbcs, maple and skerberus

I see....it makes for messy searching thats for certain.  Do you have a preferred forum for discussion on what is being worked on in regards to Qora now?  Any idea why the current interest?  Thanks

http://slack.qora.co.in/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bigrcanada1 on March 23, 2016, 09:45:26 PM
I'm a long term holder of Qora...just looking to see what all the new fuss is about and whats new here.  Also...is it possible to get all the old Qora bitcointalk pages deleted?  Its pretty confusing to navigate the maze of pages to get here.  Thoughts?  Who's our current Dev?  Cheers.

Unfortunately not, because the owner of the old threads lost access or are not around anymore.
Current devteam is agran, vbcs, maple and skerberus

I see....it makes for messy searching thats for certain.  Do you have a preferred forum for discussion on what is being worked on in regards to Qora now?  Any idea why the current interest?  Thanks

http://slack.qora.co.in/
Thanks.   Waiting for an invite now. Thats odd that as something as important as the keys to the public forum page of currency,   there wan't a "DEV Group" that are tasked with the "keys" to the house.

EDIT:  How long does it usually take to get an invite to the slack site, once you enter your email?  Thanks.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bbopa637 on March 24, 2016, 01:38:41 AM
Very nice, awesome and professional-look QORA wallet! great work! And 1000+ BTC wall on poloniex! wow! https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on March 24, 2016, 02:29:51 AM
Very nice, awesome and professional-look QORA wallet! great work! And 1000+ BTC wall on poloniex! wow! https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora

The 1000+ BTC is the volume but the wall is around 120 BTC. Not sure what's going on with the increase....but great to see the volume. Really brings QORA into view for new adopters which the community really needs. And with the wallet coming soon, and hopefully ACCT with a BTC clone things only getting better for QORA! HODL and go long!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eB101 on March 24, 2016, 03:09:57 AM
Hi All,

I have transferred 3 btc worth of Qora coins from bter.com to polo but it is still showing null in qora block explorer. What could be the issue?



It also happened to me just now.

I have the same problem as well. I wonder how much they are holding up like that


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 00lakhwinder00 on March 24, 2016, 05:51:59 AM
My 3.3 million QORA are still locked in bter withdrawal.
Has anybody received QORA from bter in past months?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: LemonAndFriesOne on March 24, 2016, 08:49:11 AM
Quick note:

BTER didn't have a problem sending over 2.5 Mil crypti (correct me if I'm wrong) over to LISK ICO right before closing.

The ceo of BTER even did it himself personally, makes you wonder huh?  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wosch76 on March 24, 2016, 08:53:46 AM
Very nice, awesome and professional-look QORA wallet! great work! And 1000+ BTC wall on poloniex! wow! https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora
the volume is impressive.
based on the volume QORA is No.8 on coinmarketcap :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 00lakhwinder00 on March 24, 2016, 09:38:48 AM
I was just browsing BTER ,i came to know that they have now disabled QORA withdrawal. (It was withdrawable yesterday).Hope they are working on solving QORA wallet issues.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on March 24, 2016, 10:00:33 AM
I was just browsing BTER ,i came to know that they have now disabled QORA withdrawal. (It was withdrawable yesterday).Hope they are working on solving QORA wallet issues.

it wasnt withdravable for more than 8 month


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 24, 2016, 10:38:27 AM
Soon will be released version 0.26.0. Also in active development smartphone app.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 24, 2016, 10:53:13 AM
To the people who still trade on BTER despite of numerous warnings:

We have been TELLING you for the past 9 months NOT to trade on BTER because they're running a scam. I'm reposting our warning messages for your benefit. Be Warned: You will NOT be able to recover/withdraw the qora you purchase on BTER, and you will NOT have our sympathy! :-[ :(  If you insist on giving your money to a Chinese scam site, feel free to go ahead.  ;) Just don't come crying about it because all of us have done our best to stop you!!  ;)


Guys,

I can't fathom why anyone would continue to trade on BTER when YOU have been WARNED repeatedly that it is a SCAM site by numerous members of BTT community umpteen times!

A quick look at their wallet will reveal that BTER simply DOES NOT have enough coins to cover their balance sheets! Just do a simple math and add up all the qora listed for sale on BTER and compare the number to the fund available in their wallet!

Please stop trading on BTER and just let the site die already! Take Heed: Poloniex and CCEDK are the ONLY reliable ones at the moment. You have been warned: Withdraw all your coins from BTER immediately. Don't come crying on Qora board when you find out you cannot withdraw the qora you bought on BTER.



I can verify that BTER is, essentially, now defunct.  Assuming you want to recover some funds, rather than none, try to do your research and see if any of the coins they offer can be successfully withdrawn.  If that's the case, dump your remaining balances for BTC or CNY and purchase those coins.  Transfer them out of BTER to a more usable exchange.

The problem is that a while ago (what, a year, or so?) BTER claims they were hacked and lost a significant portion of their funds.  Having no funds available within many of their wallets, they don't have the funds to pay back user balances.  Claiming issues with blockchain wallets it just away to get around not having a contingency plan.

My hunch is that they are trying to scrape by and rebuild whatever meager business they can.  In order to avoid significant litigation, they probably (and this is a wild guess) are only paying attention to Chinese users with moderate balances.  This isn't because of prejudice.  It's more-likely because a Chinese local with a $10k balance of crypto is more likely to litigate (if that's even possible) than a US or European resident who has the same balance.

I'm sorry to hear if you have withdrawals stuck in limbo.  Unfortunately, BTER has proven time and time again that they are completely incompetent, unreliable and untrustworthy.

Begrudgingly I moved over to Poloniex since it has significant volume (ETH trading is over 20k BTC/day?!)  There is also CCEDK which I think deserves support but the last time I checked, their volume was so low, significant trades were not feasible.

Guys,

I can't fathom why anyone would continue to trade on BTER when YOU have been WARNED repeatedly that it is a SCAM site by numerous members of BTT community umpteen times!

Can confirm.

Bter stole our Qora over 9 months ago and despite harrassing them for 9 months relentlessly they still will not make good and have finally stopped responding to our support request.

It is our belief that Bter has been running a fractional reserve for more than a year.

Many articles were published on our blog about this as well as in Youtube/Disqus comments or anywhere anyone brought up Bter in an attempt to warn unsuspecting users.

We also posted these warning on Bter's site within as many coin reviews as we could during that time.

Do not trade on Bter. Let them die.

Go Qora!!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Msile on March 24, 2016, 02:05:19 PM
How do I do the PoS?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 24, 2016, 02:44:24 PM
How do I do the PoS?

Just unlock your wallet once. The Forging indicator should say forging enabled then. Once you are in sync it will say forging.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on March 24, 2016, 06:35:56 PM
Seems that a lot of Qora holder now transfer their amount to polo. Polo has now about 36% of all Qora!!!!
I don't believe that this is a good way.
Polo is now forging nearly all blocks and getting nearly all fees.
Many people who now want to begin forging with a small amount of Qora will be frustrated..
What can we do to to change this situation?
Is there a way to give the fees only to the REAL holder of Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 24, 2016, 06:47:12 PM
Seems that a lot of Qora holder now transfer their amount to polo. Polo has now about 36% of all Qora!!!!
I don't believe that this is a good way.
Polo is now forging nearly all blocks and getting nearly all fees.
Many people who now want to begin forging with a small amount of Qora will be frustrated..
What can we do to to change this situation?
Is there a way to give the fees only to the REAL holder of Qora?

Next version will allow to disable forging. Poloniex asked in the past if they should stop forging, we will ask them to stop it and I am quite sure that they will, they are very cooperative.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on March 24, 2016, 06:50:50 PM
Seems that a lot of Qora holder now transfer their amount to polo. Polo has now about 36% of all Qora!!!!
I don't believe that this is a good way.
Polo is now forging nearly all blocks and getting nearly all fees.
Many people who now want to begin forging with a small amount of Qora will be frustrated..
What can we do to to change this situation?
Is there a way to give the fees only to the REAL holder of Qora?

Next version will allow to disable forging. Poloniex asked in the past if they should stop forging, we will ask them to stop it and I am quite sure that they will, they are very cooperative.
That's great!!! Hope Poloniex will do like you said! Thanks!!! :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 24, 2016, 06:56:20 PM
In order the help people get more information about qora and our vision here is an interview (with audio!) made with vrontis some time ago. If you did not hear it is a nice roundup!
https://beyondbitcoin.org/bonus-hangout-qora-vrontis-ciyam/

also qora on forbes (thanks ccedk):
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/08/07/cryptocurrency-nextgen-qora-reloads-with-bitcoin-exchange-social-network-enhancements/#492ffe3c64f5


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: WorldCoiner on March 25, 2016, 06:41:53 AM
I have blogged about Qora today (in German):
https://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/qora-wie-ein-phoenix-aus-der-asche/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: altfolio on March 25, 2016, 09:23:42 AM
Have you tried out AltFolio yet? Flexible Portfolio Tool.

Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qora) and bter (https://bter.com/trade/qora_btc) are already supported.
How much is ccedk really used? Wondering if I add it to ...

AltFolio.ddns.net (http://AltFolio.ddns.net)

?

Thanks for trying. Please share your experiences.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 25, 2016, 01:15:43 PM
I have blogged about Qora today (in German):
https://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/qora-wie-ein-phoenix-aus-der-asche/

Thank you very much! Bzw. vielen Dank ;).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ashi404 on March 25, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
What is the reason behind Qora price went to 35 satoshi and now it is 17 satoshi. Will it rise again?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Msile on March 25, 2016, 06:28:41 PM
What is the reason behind Qora price went to 35 satoshi and now it is 17 satoshi. Will it rise again?
Lots of coins were being pumped (and then dumped, but not as low as the starting price) on Poloniex (and other exchanges)

And so was Qora. Depending on the work of the devs and the amount of holders, it will probably rise again some day, doesn't have to be soon though, and it might go down some more.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 25, 2016, 07:56:01 PM
I am honestly surprised noone has mentioned CIYAM's progress with Bitcoin ACCT script... Am I wrong in assuming that Qora is fairly close to achieve true ACCT (Atomic Cross-Chain Transaction) with Bitcoin any day now?

Further progress has been made with the new Trade package (it's nearing functional completion) and with the help of four other batch/script files to use Bitcoin with the "-regtest" (with one of four different wallets) the following script https://github.com/ciyam/ciyam/blob/master/src/bct_acct_test.cin simulates an ACCT between two users.

In order to turn this into a usable decentralised exchange platform the Wallet package will need to be enhanced to perform the functionality that is being done manually through the CIYAM script.


The Trade package is now at the point of final testing and so should be ready any day now.

In the meantime I discovered this: https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

There is a whitepaper for this algorithm as well and it so far looks very promising to me - it could be the final piece in the CIYAM blockchain jigsaw that I have been looking for.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 25, 2016, 08:03:42 PM
I've been following Ian's work, and I'm pretty surprised not more people have mentioned CIYAM's groundbreaking achievement with Bitcoin ACCT (using CLTV).  It sounds like a decentralized exchange between Qora and Bitcoin is just few weeks away??

Can vbcs comment on this??  Also, I'm curious if any more "test cases" based on automated transaction have been developed for Qora (ie. lottery, automated dividend payout)?


Initial work on the Wallet and Transaction packages to support ACCT (using CLTV) has been completed.

Currently it requires a fair bit of manual copy and pastes which should be able to be removed by optionally tying the Trade package to the Wallet and Transaction packages (which I think is going to be essential for this to be generally usable).

I expect this will take at least a couple of weeks after which work on being able to turn this into a combined local and blockchain application will commence.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 26, 2016, 01:46:12 AM
BlockExplorer now now shows QRCode.
Example: http://mirror.qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QN5XF1YQUyVt3S1LNZtStXQCbtxyhkj2FR (Click on the icon next to the address)

It is useful when will be released a smart phone app.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on March 26, 2016, 02:34:48 AM
I've been following Ian's work, and I'm pretty surprised not more people have mentioned CIYAM's groundbreaking achievement with Bitcoin ACCT (using CLTV).  It sounds like a decentralized exchange between Qora and Bitcoin is just few weeks away??

Can vbcs comment on this??  Also, I'm curious if any more "test cases" based on automated transaction have been developed for Qora (ie. lottery, automated dividend payout)?


Initial work on the Wallet and Transaction packages to support ACCT (using CLTV) has been completed.

Currently it requires a fair bit of manual copy and pastes which should be able to be removed by optionally tying the Trade package to the Wallet and Transaction packages (which I think is going to be essential for this to be generally usable).

I expect this will take at least a couple of weeks after which work on being able to turn this into a combined local and blockchain application will commence.


This may very well be why we saw a price spike. Unfortunately, it is apparent that CIYAM's implementation is very complicated for the non-technical type. It does, however, appeal to a lot of crypto-users and has tremendous potential if simplified. I really hope we see further improvements and adoption. Imagine a Shapeshift that is not centralized.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on March 26, 2016, 05:31:32 AM
This may very well be why we saw a price spike. Unfortunately, it is apparent that CIYAM's implementation is very complicated for the non-technical type. It does, however, appeal to a lot of crypto-users and has tremendous potential if simplified. I really hope we see further improvements and adoption. Imagine a Shapeshift that is not centralized.

Unfortunately although we have already created (and tested) an ACCT Bitcoin script that uses CLTV the UI side of things is what really takes quite a bit of time and we don't think that releasing an unfriendly and mostly manual implementation would be appealing to virtually anyone so the work to develop decent UI (for the Bitcoin side of things) and to improve the UI on the Qora side of things will take some time.

That being said I do think we should be able to end up with something that is user friendly and that will be very robust (an estimate at this stage is a little hard but I would certainly think that you could expect to see a release by mid-year with this functionality).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 26, 2016, 06:23:52 AM

Unfortunately although we have already created (and tested) an ACCT Bitcoin script that uses CLTV the UI side of things is what really takes quite a bit of time and we don't think that releasing an unfriendly and mostly manual implementation would be appealing to virtually anyone so the work to develop decent UI (for the Bitcoin side of things) and to improve the UI on the Qora side of things will take some time.

That being said I do think we should be able to end up with something that is user friendly and that will be very robust (an estimate at this stage is a little hard but I would certainly think that you could expect to see a release by mid-year with this functionality).


Thank you so much for the update and the estimated release date!!!!!  :D  Happy to see you here, Ian.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: templebar on March 26, 2016, 06:56:07 AM
What is the reason behind Qora price went to 35 satoshi and now it is 17 satoshi. Will it rise again?
Most of the coins in poloniex gets pumped some day or other.
Only coins with great devs and good community survive in he end.
Qora is in the right path.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 26, 2016, 07:00:40 AM
To all the newcomers and new stakeholders of Qora who wish to learn what the recent fuss is all about, here is a quick rundown!  :D

Qora is about have its very own Decentralized Bitcoin Exchange, World's First!!  ;D  The decentralized Bitcoin Exchange will be based on CIYAM's implemention of ACCT (Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer) and AT technology (Automated Transaction) that was incorporated into Qora's core earlier last year.

In a nutshell, you can think of AT technology as a "processor" sitting in Qora's core that is capable of interpreting and executing machine language-like instructions in the Qora BlockChain.  The possibilities are definitely endless with Automated Transaction: For instance, you can create a Shapeshift-like Crypto exchanger that is fully automated and decentralized, or a bot that will automatically pay out dividends without human intervention... and of course, the holy grail of all Cryptos: a decentralized Bitcoin Exchange based on ACCT!

Following is a short history of Qora Automated Transaction and World's First "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer":

1. Automated Transaction (or AT for short) was incorporated into Qora's core by one of CIYAM devs, vbcs, last year. Since then, a few "use cases" have been developed by the devs: Qora/Burst decentralized exchange and the infinite loop!  ;)

2. The very first ACCT had already been conducted between Qora and BURST some time last year.  Now, you can access the Qora Decentralized Exchange (only available for BURST/QORA for now) by going to the ACCT tab in the Qora client.

3. Ian had a major breakthrough earlier this year: as announced on his page, a Bitcoin ACCT (using CLTV) was successfully conducted earlier this year, and a "trade package" was successfully completed on March 18th.

As CIYAM has just said, we'll probably see a release by mid-year.  ;D  Also wanna take this opportunity to congratulate CIYAM team for the technological breakthrough and to my knowledge, the very first implementation of Bitcoin ACCT.  ;) Great job!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MaGNeT on March 26, 2016, 03:23:26 PM
Ssshhh... keep it quiet... stil buying up...

 ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Simple858 on March 26, 2016, 10:51:08 PM
To all the newcomers and new stakeholders of Qora who wish to learn what the recent fuss is all about, here is a quick rundown!  :D

Qora is about have its very own Decentralized Bitcoin Exchange, World's First!!  ;D  The decentralized Bitcoin Exchange will be based on CIYAM's implemention of ACCT (Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer) and AT technology (Automated Transaction) that was incorporated into Qora's core earlier last year.

In a nutshell, you can think of AT technology as a "processor" sitting in Qora's core that is capable of interpreting and executing machine language-like instructions in the Qora BlockChain.  The possibilities are definitely endless with Automated Transaction: For instance, you can create a Shapeshift-like Crypto exchanger that is fully automated and decentralized, or a bot that will automatically pay out dividends without human intervention... and of course, the holy grail of all Cryptos: a decentralized Bitcoin Exchange based on ACCT!

Following is a short history of Qora Automated Transaction and World's First "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer":

1. Automated Transaction (or AT for short) was incorporated into Qora's core by one of CIYAM devs, vbcs, last year. Since then, a few "use cases" have been developed by the devs: Qora/Burst decentralized exchange and the infinite loop!  ;)

2. The very first ACCT had already been conducted between Qora and BURST some time last year.  Now, you can access the Qora Decentralized Exchange (only available for BURST/QORA for now) by going to the ACCT tab in the Qora client.

3. Ian had a major breakthrough earlier this year: as announced on his page, a Bitcoin ACCT (using CLTV) was successfully conducted earlier this year, and a "trade package" was successfully completed on March 18th.

As CIYAM has just said, we'll probably see a release by mid-year.  ;D  Also wanna take this opportunity to congratulate CIYAM team for the technological breakthrough and to my knowledge, the very first implementation of Bitcoin ACCT.  ;) Great job!


How far until this great technology comes to reality


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 27, 2016, 06:24:51 AM
How far until this great technology comes to reality


It's just a few posts before mine... lol.. Go to page 16, and read CIYAM's statement... I am not going to add another word to CIYAM's post.  :)


This may very well be why we saw a price spike. Unfortunately, it is apparent that CIYAM's implementation is very complicated for the non-technical type. It does, however, appeal to a lot of crypto-users and has tremendous potential if simplified. I really hope we see further improvements and adoption. Imagine a Shapeshift that is not centralized.

Unfortunately although we have already created (and tested) an ACCT Bitcoin script that uses CLTV the UI side of things is what really takes quite a bit of time and we don't think that releasing an unfriendly and mostly manual implementation would be appealing to virtually anyone so the work to develop decent UI (for the Bitcoin side of things) and to improve the UI on the Qora side of things will take some time.

That being said I do think we should be able to end up with something that is user friendly and that will be very robust (an estimate at this stage is a little hard but I would certainly think that you could expect to see a release by mid-year with this functionality).



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 27, 2016, 07:00:20 AM
Ssshhh... keep it quiet... stil buying up...

 ;D

Very Sorry if I ruined your plan!   ::)  I just wished Qora and CIYAM to have the recognition they both deserved, and I found it rather perplexing how little publicity and attention the Bitcoin ACCT breakthrough received. That's all.   :)

Correct me if I am wrong.. Was I correct in stating that CIYAM's implementation of Bitcoin ACCT will lead to the world's very first truly automated and server-independent decentralized Bitcoin Exchange?

MGW and InstantDex are definitely NOT true decentralized exchanges, because they are merely a layer above the asset exchange and rely on 3rd-party servers (Qora already had an asset exchange ages ago)..  As far as I'm aware, Ethereum does not have a BTC decentralized exchange yet although it was rumored that one was in the works.

To my knowledge, ACCT (Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer) is the only known way to achieve real decentralized exchange of Bitcoin and Crypto.. and CYAM's implementation is the only one in existence...  

Care to share your thought?  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Simple858 on March 27, 2016, 07:06:53 AM
How far until this great technology comes to reality


It's just a few posts before mine... lol.. Go to page 16, and read CIYAM's statement... I am not going to add another word to CIYAM's post.  :)


This may very well be why we saw a price spike. Unfortunately, it is apparent that CIYAM's implementation is very complicated for the non-technical type. It does, however, appeal to a lot of crypto-users and has tremendous potential if simplified. I really hope we see further improvements and adoption. Imagine a Shapeshift that is not centralized.

Unfortunately although we have already created (and tested) an ACCT Bitcoin script that uses CLTV the UI side of things is what really takes quite a bit of time and we don't think that releasing an unfriendly and mostly manual implementation would be appealing to virtually anyone so the work to develop decent UI (for the Bitcoin side of things) and to improve the UI on the Qora side of things will take some time.

That being said I do think we should be able to end up with something that is user friendly and that will be very robust (an estimate at this stage is a little hard but I would certainly think that you could expect to see a release by mid-year with this functionality).


thank you very much


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: polister on March 27, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Is there a paperwallet or other cold storage possibility for QORA?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 27, 2016, 04:51:08 PM
Is there a paperwallet or other cold storage possibility for QORA?

There is currently no paperwallet as far as I know.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ern on March 27, 2016, 08:25:49 PM
Have any of the Qora-developers been in contact with Bter.com regarding their wallet issues?

I made a withdrawal from them over 7 months ago which hasn't gone through yet, and every time I ask them about it I get pretty much the same generic "sorry the wallet is not working that good right now"-answer. It seems like they refuse to tell me any more about it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 28, 2016, 05:59:21 AM
thank you very much

You are very welcome.  ;)  Below is a short list of resources if you wish to learn more:

1. To learn more about Qora's AT core (Automated Transactions) and what it's capable of, please visit CIYAM's page: https://ciyam.org/at/ (https://ciyam.org/at/)

2. To follow Ian's progress on Bitcoin ACCT and decentralized exchange, please go to this page:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598860.60 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598860.60)

3. To see a list of AT-based scripts currently deployed on Qora BlockChain, please visit this link: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?aTs (http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?aTs)

4. You can access the Qora Decentralized Exchange via the "ACCT" tab in the client (Currently only available for QORA/BURST pair).. You can also check out Qora's Asset Exchange by going to the "Asset" tab...

Hope this helps to get you started!  :D



PS: Don't forget to join the Qora Slack Chatroom! http://slack.qora.co.in/ (http://slack.qora.co.in/)... There are actually lots of exciting developments with Qora client.. I'm not sure if I have the dev team's permission to share it here.. So I'll just urge anyone who is interested in learning to join the channel.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on March 28, 2016, 08:38:48 AM
Have any of the Qora-developers been in contact with Bter.com regarding their wallet issues?

I made a withdrawal from them over 7 months ago which hasn't gone through yet, and every time I ask them about it I get pretty much the same generic "sorry the wallet is not working that good right now"-answer. It seems like they refuse to tell me any more about it.

Bter THIEVES delisted Qora !!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on March 28, 2016, 10:53:20 AM
The release is delayed, it is likely to be in a week.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on March 28, 2016, 11:03:20 AM
The release is delayed, it is likely to be in a week.

Thanks for the info!
Good work needs time! :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on March 28, 2016, 11:20:28 AM
Have any of the Qora-developers been in contact with Bter.com regarding their wallet issues?

I made a withdrawal from them over 7 months ago which hasn't gone through yet, and every time I ask them about it I get pretty much the same generic "sorry the wallet is not working that good right now"-answer. It seems like they refuse to tell me any more about it.

Bter THIEVES delisted Qora !!!!!!!!

Always thought they were pretty shady, but now I can upgrade that opinion to flat out scammer scum.  Glad I only had a small amount of Qora on there and did most of my trading elsewhere.  I'm assuming anything we had on there is essentially lost since withdrawing never worked anyway and you can't sell if it's been delisted.

Just dumped every other coin I had on there and requested withdrawal for the small amount of BTC it amounted to (which, knowing them, I probably won't receive anyway).  Never using them again.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 28, 2016, 07:19:56 PM
Bter THIEVES delisted Qora !!!!!!!!

As one of the first persons who reported problems with BTER, I'll give you guys a short history of what happened:

Roughly 12 months ago, right after the last BTER hack in which they claimed to lose over 7000 Bitcoins :o, BTER instituted a policy that limited how much cryptos you were allowed to withdraw on a daily basis.  That's when some of us Qora members noticed a huge problem: BTER actually did NOT have enough qora in their wallet to cover all the Sell Bids in their order book.  There were over 1 billion qora listed on BTER, but their wallet only had less than 3% of qora supply.  Feeling alarmed and suspicious, all of us started urging people to withdraw all their qora from BTER.

And guess what?  :D  Right after most people got their qora out, BTER suddenly reported their wallet was experiencing problem... lol...  That was over 10 - 11 months ago!  ;D  So all of the people who had coins stuck in BTER started bombarding them with support tickets, but all they've been getting was the generic reply "the problem will be fixed shortly... blah.. blah.. etc"...

Since then, both Vrontis and Skerberus have contacted them and offered to help lots and lots of time, but the BTER thieves simply refused to cooperate and just ignored qora devs' message.

So after that, both me and Tuck Fheman have been reposting our warning messages every few months, warning people not to trade on BTER.  It was our conclusion that BTER had been running fractional reserve for over a year, and they NEVER really had the ability to pay all of the investors back.

So, I am really sorry to see those of you who had lost money on BTER, but as you can see, we had really done our best to warn you.  :) Searching through qora's messages archives, you should notice lots of warning messages from qora members. So I think the best thing to do now is to just let BTER die by withdrawing all of your Crypto from that site.  And if you live in China, you can probably fight them in court.

Good luck, guys.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 30, 2016, 01:16:40 AM
For those of you who are tired of the generic, Java Swing GUI, there is a good news! :D

In the next two versions (most likely in the version after the upcoming 0.26 release), a brand new "web-based GUI" (user interface) will be introduced to the qora community, and the old, generic Java Swing GUI will gradually be phased out in favor of the new GUI.  The new web-based GUI has numerous advantages: being lightweight, new interface templates can be easily created/maintained/modified, and of course, better looking!  :)

For those of you who haven't seen it, here are two screenshots of the new user interface that was created by Skerberus, and is currently in development:

http://i.imgur.com/Hb6V1CJ.jpg


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 30, 2016, 01:31:20 AM
My understanding is that the old, generic Swing-based GUI will be slowly phased out, or simply be used as a backup in the future release.  Currently, all the web pages hosted inside the Qora client are accessible via the "Decentralized web server" button (File -> Decentralized Web Server).   What the "decentralized web server" does is to launch your browser and let you access the pages hosted inside the Qora client running on your local computer.  It is decentralized and safe because all the information (blog.. message.. etc) is pull in from the Qora BlockChain, and no 3rd-party server is accessed.   So everything is anonymous and you cannot be tracked.  :)

To be more specific, Qora Client includes a built-in web server (Jetty web server) that serves all pages includes in the storage.  And the good news is:  any developer or individual who wishes to create custom web-based interface (or just about any page) can do so easily by including their html files in the server storage space.

Here is another screen shot:

http://i.imgur.com/VuUsdtW.jpg


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 30, 2016, 04:25:06 PM
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/5032079/14141630/e224667a-f6b2-11e5-81de-157683d6baef.gif


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 30, 2016, 05:06:28 PM
Holy sh*T!  ;D ;D

Is that the new mobile wallet?? It's so dam*n beautiful, agran!!!!  :D

I am soooooooo happy for Qora! Thanks for sharing this marvelous pic with us, agran!  :D

PS: Wow, I just realized.. the possibility of accessing Qora decentralized web on your cellphone!!!  ;D

Congrat to you and the entire team!



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on March 30, 2016, 05:19:01 PM
Everyone get your mobile device ready and let's rock this world together :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MaGNeT on March 31, 2016, 06:09:58 AM
Looking great!

Price of Qora still creeping up!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 31, 2016, 08:53:11 AM
To all prospective developers or web designers who wish to build custom web-based wallets or custom software applications on the Qora Platform:

Qora is a versatile and stable platform that offers a full suite of JSON API that are accessible via standard HTTP REST calls such as this one: http://127.0.0.1:9085/qora/status (For checking Qora Client's status)..  All of Qora's functionalities (including Arbitrary Message and Automated Transaction) are exposed by the JSON API and accessible via standard HTTP calls, and can be used by any web designer or software developer to create custom wallet interface or custom applications on top of Qora Platform.

1. A web designer or any individual who wishes to develop custom wallet interface for Qora can simply include the wallet html files in the Qora web storage (located under Qora/Web), and then compile the wallet.  As mentioned in my previous post, the old generic Swing GUI will be gradually phased out in favor of the new Web-based GUI.  So it's recommended that anyone who is interested in developing a custom wallet ditch the Swing interface and go for web-based interface instead.  :)

Here are two resources to get you started:

- Latest Qora API documentation: http://api.qora.org/ (Current Version: V0.25)

- Complete Idiot's Guide to Compile a Qora Wallet (Unofficial): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881230.msg10789056#msg10789056

2. A software developer can create custom applications on top of Qora by utilizing all of Qora's functionalities exposed by the JSON API accessible at local port: 9085.  All you need to do is to make a http REST call from inside your application. So even a kid can do it.  ;D  

Here are two resources to get you started:

- Sample custom Qora application by agran (Vanity Address Generator): https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQora

- Custom Qora interface developed by qora.team: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/tree/0.26.0/Qora/web

----------------------------

Feel free to join Qora's Slack Channel if you have any question regarding custom wallet or application development: http://slack.qora.co.in/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 31, 2016, 09:29:26 AM
- Sample custom Qora application by agran (Vanity Address Generator): https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQora
It's better - https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQoraPure


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 4emily on March 31, 2016, 01:49:29 PM
Great to see the dramatic change around in Qora' fortunes - it's nice to have the old gut instinct finally vindicated!

Kudos to the development team  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: space_invader on March 31, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
I had a strong urge to sell at the very bottom at 3 satoshi but resisted the temptation.
Now I regret not having bought more ;-)
Thank you DEV team for vision and persistence :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ikonic1 on March 31, 2016, 02:11:59 PM
I'm wondering why QORA has such a high trading volume. I look on Poloniex every day and typically we are talking about > 100 BTC. In the last 24 hours, the volume has been ~280 BTC. Can someone explain why there is such interest in QORA in contrast to other alt-coins, most of which have only a fraction of QORA's volume?

Moreover, I note that the price has risen from around 10 satoshis a couple of weeks ago to around 25 - 35 satoshis. Can anyone account for this rise?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: l77fernandes on March 31, 2016, 02:24:40 PM
To all prospective developers or web designers who wish to build custom web-based wallets or custom software applications on the Qora Platform:

Qora is a versatile and stable platform that offers a full suite of JSON API that are accessible via standard HTTP REST calls such as this one: http://127.0.0.1:9085/qora/status (For checking Qora Client's status)..  All of Qora's functionalities (including Arbitrary Message and Automated Transaction) are exposed by the JSON API and accessible via standard HTTP calls, and can be used by any web designer or software developer to create custom wallet interface or custom applications on top of Qora Platform.

1. A web designer or any individual who wishes to develop custom wallet interface for Qora can simply include the wallet html files in the Qora web storage (located under Qora/Web), and then compile the wallet.  As mentioned in my previous post, the old generic Swing GUI will be gradually phased out in favor of the new Web-based GUI.  So it's recommended that anyone who is interested in developing a custom wallet ditch the Swing interface and go for web-based interface instead.  :)

Here are two resources to get you started:

- Latest Qora API documentation: http://api.qora.org/ (Current Version: V0.25)

- Complete Idiot's Guide to Compile a Qora Wallet (Unofficial): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881230.msg10789056#msg10789056

2. A software developer can create custom applications on top of Qora by utilizing all of Qora's functionalities exposed by the JSON API accessible at local port: 9085.  All you need to do is to make a http REST call from inside your application. So even a kid can do it.  ;D   

Here are two resources to get you started:

- Sample custom Qora application by agran (Vanity Address Generator): https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQora

- Custom Qora interface developed by qora.team: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/tree/0.26.0/Qora/web

----------------------------

Feel free to join Qora's Slack Channel if you have any question regarding custom wallet or application development: http://slack.qora.co.in/

I'm not getting cash out Qora in BTER can help me?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Em_Ka on March 31, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
wallet is beautiful :-*
Quote
http://qora.co.in:9090/webwallet


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on March 31, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
0.26.0 will the latest version on which I work. I sold my share.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: M0ndialu on March 31, 2016, 02:57:54 PM
To all prospective developers or web designers who wish to build custom web-based wallets or custom software applications on the Qora Platform:

Qora is a versatile and stable platform that offers a full suite of JSON API that are accessible via standard HTTP REST calls such as this one: http://127.0.0.1:9085/qora/status (For checking Qora Client's status)..  All of Qora's functionalities (including Arbitrary Message and Automated Transaction) are exposed by the JSON API and accessible via standard HTTP calls, and can be used by any web designer or software developer to create custom wallet interface or custom applications on top of Qora Platform.

1. A web designer or any individual who wishes to develop custom wallet interface for Qora can simply include the wallet html files in the Qora web storage (located under Qora/Web), and then compile the wallet.  As mentioned in my previous post, the old generic Swing GUI will be gradually phased out in favor of the new Web-based GUI.  So it's recommended that anyone who is interested in developing a custom wallet ditch the Swing interface and go for web-based interface instead.  :)

Here are two resources to get you started:

- Latest Qora API documentation: http://api.qora.org/ (Current Version: V0.25)

- Complete Idiot's Guide to Compile a Qora Wallet (Unofficial): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881230.msg10789056#msg10789056

2. A software developer can create custom applications on top of Qora by utilizing all of Qora's functionalities exposed by the JSON API accessible at local port: 9085.  All you need to do is to make a http REST call from inside your application. So even a kid can do it.  ;D  

Here are two resources to get you started:

- Sample custom Qora application by agran (Vanity Address Generator): https://github.com/agran/VanitygenQora

- Custom Qora interface developed by qora.team: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/tree/0.26.0/Qora/web

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Feel free to join Qora's Slack Channel if you have any question regarding custom wallet or application development: http://slack.qora.co.in/

Good Job! price exploded  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: l77fernandes on March 31, 2016, 03:06:30 PM
wallet is beautiful :-*
Quote
http://qora.co.in:9090/webwallet

Yes, but Qora withdrawal is disabled in BTER.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on March 31, 2016, 03:13:50 PM
wallet is beautiful :-*
Quote
http://qora.co.in:9090/webwallet

Yes, but Qora withdrawal is disabled in BTER.

You can't withdraw qora from BTER for a long time. They never replied to my mails to help them, so there is not much we can do unfortunately.
Several people warned in this thread multiple times not to trade Qora on BTER. You should try to contact BTER yourself, but to be honest I don't see a big chance to get those qora out of there.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on March 31, 2016, 04:51:58 PM
0.26.0 will the latest version on which I work. I sold my share.


Sad times. Thank you for all of your effort to date. You with the other have made Qora what it is. I hope someone will take over the block explorer and all of the wallet updates. Has someone contacted you about this?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rlh on March 31, 2016, 04:59:10 PM
I sold my shares at 3 sats (I KNOW!!!!!!!) only because I needed some quick funds, and in the coming weeks I planned to use some profits to buy back in... even if the price was double, I thought I could skim some funds because Qora hadn't been doing much.

Biggest, mistake, this, year. :(

I never hope for a "crash" at others expense but if it does go waaaaay back down for no reason apparent reason, I'll be picking up my stake again.

Good work, though.  I still follow the project and I'm impressed with everyone's efforts.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on March 31, 2016, 05:09:03 PM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).

As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).

Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.

Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on March 31, 2016, 06:29:28 PM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).

As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).

Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.

Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).



Are you still thinking of monetizing ATfunding asset ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 31, 2016, 06:31:07 PM
That's great news!! Thanks for sharing CIYAM!  :)

Where can we read about the proposed blockchain and the technology behind it?  Just to make it clear to our community members, there will be no coins issued, and the blockchain will supplement Qora and facilitate ACCT between all parties, right?

I'd definitely like to learn more about your plan.

Thanks!


Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).

As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).

Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.

Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 31, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
LOL.. That's too bad.  ;)

I sold my shares at 3 sats (I KNOW!!!!!!!) only because I needed some quick funds, and in the coming weeks I planned to use some profits to buy back in... even if the price was double, I thought I could skim some funds because Qora hadn't been doing much.

Biggest, mistake, this, year. :(

I never hope for a "crash" at others expense but if it does go waaaaay back down for no reason apparent reason, I'll be picking up my stake again.

Good work, though.  I still follow the project and I'm impressed with everyone's efforts.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 31, 2016, 06:34:10 PM
Please read some of my posts from the past couple days to get an idea..  :)

I'm wondering why QORA has such a high trading volume. I look on Poloniex every day and typically we are talking about > 100 BTC. In the last 24 hours, the volume has been ~280 BTC. Can someone explain why there is such interest in QORA in contrast to other alt-coins, most of which have only a fraction of QORA's volume?

Moreover, I note that the price has risen from around 10 satoshis a couple of weeks ago to around 25 - 35 satoshis. Can anyone account for this rise?



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on March 31, 2016, 06:38:43 PM
A Small Update and Announcement

Some of the Qora Devs members had a discussion concerning Microsoft Azure Baas Platform, and we've agreed to explore that option after the release of V.0.26.  One of the devs will be contacting Microsoft and see how we can cooperate in order to deploy Qora Blockchain on the Microsoft Azure Cloud and join the Microsoft Azure Blockchain Baas Program. *See Update*

We believe by signing on to the Microsoft Azure program, it will add "prestige" and "legitimacy" to Qora Development.  The recognition alone will be worth the effort.  :)

I'd like to hear what you guys think.

Feel free to voice your opinion in this thread. Thank you!  :)

PS: Everything discussed in relation to Azure BaaS should be considered "tentative." The reason I posted this now is to throw this idea out here, so we can discuss the Pros and Cons as a community. Thank you.

Update: We're currently debating whether Qora should be on MS Azure's BaaS blockchain service or not, and we welcome all inputs/suggestions from the community.  


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wosterlee on March 31, 2016, 07:03:10 PM
A Small Update and Announcement

Some of the Qora Devs members had a discussion concerning Microsoft Azure Baas Platform, and we've agreed to explore that option after the release of V.0.26.  One of the devs will be contacting Microsoft and see how we can cooperate in order to deploy Qora Blockchain on the Microsoft Azure Cloud and join the Microsoft Azure Blockchain Baas Program.

We believe by signing on to the Microsoft Azure program, it will add "prestige" and "legitimacy" to Qora Development.  The recognition alone will be worth the effort.  :)

I will like to hear what you guys think.

Feel free to voice your opinion in this thread. Thank you!  :)

FYI

From the New Economy Movement blog (http://blog.nem.io/status-on-the-azure-project/):

Status on The Azure Project
29 Mar 2016


The tech team, rb2 and Patmst3r, worked hard in getting NEM into a docker for Azure. In case some of you who may not know Azure, it is a Microsoft cloud computing platform and infrastructure. Recently, some months ago, Microsoft opened up Azure for crypto projects to place their solutions there in the cloud repository so that testers are able to download and testbed these initiatives from one location.
We spent a considerable amount of time getting this done. Unfortunately, at the last stage of our submission we were shown the agreement. In the agreement, to put our solution up there, requires us to give away all our rights. This is not quite palatable.
This article has been pretty explicit:

http://bitcoinist.net/microsoft-bullies-open-source-is-the-blockchain-their-next-target/

The agreement which is publicly available for us to peruse by Microsoft, confirms it:

http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf

Having given it due consideration and thoughts, we have decided that NEM should be independent. Instead, we are proposing to still put it on Azure as a docker but we pay for it. By paying for it, we are assuming to be a customer of MS instead. In doing so, we are free from losing our rights as well as still prove that we are able to put it on the Azure cloud and allow testers to work on our solution without NEM losing any rights at all.
In short, putting the NEM docker on Azure, in our opinion, is nothing more than making it simpler to install, vis-à-vis via Github. Putting it on Azure also extends our solution to making it available to people who are familiar with the MS service platform.

NEM does not believe that it should lose its rights to anyone, not in the very spirit of how crypto projects are founded upon.
On that basis, NEM would like to announce that it has no intention to get itself listed in Azure for free like the rest of the other projects, unless MS waives that agreement, for which if they are sincere, they should. Instead NEM will investigate a paid addition to Azure, achieving the same goal for a cost but keeping our full rights.




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Nxtblg on March 31, 2016, 07:09:05 PM
I had a strong urge to sell at the very bottom at 3 satoshi but resisted the temptation.
Now I regret not having bought more ;-)

Congratulations! You broke the "buy high, sell low" jinx that keeps a lot of punters wondering why they keep losing. More than a few of the Internet-bubble players gave up in late 2001 or early 2002 when the stocks finally began rallying back.

It's actually hard to be a speculator, because we naturally think that trends are informational about our holdings. If your favourite alt is down in the dumps, there's something about that downtrend that really gets to you - that says, "This thing keeps going down because the market's cottoning on to it flopping." It's this inner-ear whisper - this impression - that wears folks down into selling near the bottom - or selling early on into the recovery rally.

I know of only one way to stick with an alt through thick, thin and anorexic: faith. It's as simple as that: have faith that you're HODLing the right alt, and taking in stride the feeling that you're just another bagholder.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on March 31, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
0.26.0 will the latest version on which I work. I sold my share.


Sad to hear that! You did good work.  :) - I also got out but sadly before the latest pump.

I will join (buy again) if it falls < 10 satoshi

Edit: I always believed in qora, I wouldn't sell my share if I didn't have to.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on March 31, 2016, 08:42:40 PM
A Small Update and Announcement

Some of the Qora Devs members had a discussion concerning Microsoft Azure Baas Platform, and we've agreed to explore that option after the release of V.0.26.  One of the devs will be contacting Microsoft and see how we can cooperate in order to deploy Qora Blockchain on the Microsoft Azure Cloud and join the Microsoft Azure Blockchain Baas Program.

We believe by signing on to the Microsoft Azure program, it will add "prestige" and "legitimacy" to Qora Development.  The recognition alone will be worth the effort.  :)

I will like to hear what you guys think.

Feel free to voice your opinion in this thread. Thank you!  :)

PS: Everything discussed in relation to Azure BaaS should be considered "tentative." The reason I posted this now is to throw this idea out here, so we can discuss the Pros and Cons as a community. Thank you.

Today I was in the shower, thinking just that!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: turkojan on March 31, 2016, 11:54:39 PM
Hi there,
I'm facing this "invalid fee" error in my QORA wallet, when i try to send some coins to another wallet, create a name or everything that i try, every time gives me this "invalid fee" message also my forging is disable even with the wallet unlocked and sync, i'm using Windows 7 and wallet version 0.25.1 if someone knows the solutions help me please. thanks


ps: here is a print screen, even if i chagen the fee value to 1000 gives me the same.

http://oi67.tinypic.com/8zqyp0.jpg


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kennyP on April 01, 2016, 12:03:26 AM
0.26.0 will the latest version on which I work. I sold my share.


Why bro, Can you give details? Thanks for all your work too :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 01, 2016, 12:04:00 AM
Hi there,
I'm facing this "invalid fee" error in my QORA wallet, when i try to send some coins to another wallet, create a name or everything that i try, every time gives me this "invalid fee" message also my forging is disable even with the wallet unlocked and sync, i'm using Windows 7 and wallet version 0.25.1 if someone knows the solutions help me please. thanks


ps: here is a print screen, even if i chagen the fee value to 1000 gives me the same.


Need to make sure you're on the right chain.  :)  Try restarting your qora client and let it sync again.  If that still does not work, download the data from agran's data folder (replace the chain on your computer):

http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

And try re-sync the client again.. Hope that helps  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kennyP on April 01, 2016, 12:14:17 AM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).

As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).

Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.

Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).


Wow, this sounds very exciting, and we know most Qora holders were initially attracted by new tech rather than alt coin hype and P&D, and most have shown patience through a long period where trading and prices were pretty grim, so if you did involve Qora in the distribution mechanism for  new CIYAM blockchain you would start with a knowledgeable and supportive user-base.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 01, 2016, 01:04:35 AM
Update: We're currently debating whether Qora should be on MS Azure's BaaS blockchain service or not, and we welcome all inputs/suggestions from the community.  
I actually don't know much about the purpose of using Azure except to increase expose for those shopping for a blockchain to use...so I can't comment regarding its potential as a platform to improve qora's value. I suspect it would be a good idea to at least try, get a response from MS and then make a decision. But if MS gives a similar response as it gave NEM, forget it. Can anyone explain why coins want to be on Azure apart from an immediate and short term hype? What is BaaS?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 01, 2016, 01:11:44 AM
Initially I was quite put off when I read what NEM revealed about the Microsoft contract for Azure. Why would people, developers, give up their rights to the thing they created?

But now I am wondering what rights the developers have with regard to an open source project. Rights that cannot be enforced are rights that cannot be claimed, right?

It makes sense that the Qora devs and even the investors would not want to sign away their rights to use the code or deploy the blockchain in whatever ways they see fit. But if Microsoft, or anyone else, can simply clone the code based on what is open source, then what does it mean to either keep or give up rights to this particular version of the code and this particular instantiation of the Qora blockchain?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 01, 2016, 02:06:30 AM
Initially I was quite put off when I read what NEM revealed about the Microsoft contract for Azure. Why would people, developers, give up their rights to the thing they created?

But now I am wondering what rights the developers have with regard to an open source project. Rights that cannot be enforced are rights that cannot be claimed, right?

It makes sense that the Qora devs and even the investors would not want to sign away their rights to use the code or deploy the blockchain in whatever ways they see fit. But if Microsoft, or anyone else, can simply clone the code based on what is open source, then what does it mean to either keep or give up rights to this particular version of the code and this particular instantiation of the Qora blockchain?

I'm interested what this could possibly mean as well. NEM and Qora are both using the MIT license.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 01, 2016, 02:13:25 AM
Thanks for the input, guys.  :)  Appreciate it.

In a nutshell, MS Azure BaaS platform is the cloud computing/deployment platform designed specifically for blockchain-as-a-service (BaaS) purpose. By deploying the blockchain on Azure, it would be easier for potential developers and companies to interact and experiment with the blockchain, and create custom apps on top of the platform using existing MS technologies.
 
Initially, we were thinking that since all the blockchain providers (such as Qora) who wish to sign up for the program will need to undergo certain "security vetting" conducted by Microsoft, it would act as some sort of certification, and we thought going with it might add  "clout" or "prestige" to a cryptocurrency project like Qora that is accepted into the program. Plus, they always make announcement when they accept a new Blockchain partner, so as a partner, we will receive some free press and recognition from Microsoft as well as the tech community.

Now after reading Microsoft's Licensing Agreement, I am not so sure about it anymore.. It sounds pretty bad: http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf

Quote
Licenses.

a. Copyright License.
You grant Microsoft, and those who receive the Code directly or indirectly from Microsoft, a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty free, irrevocable license in the Submission to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, and distribute the Submission and such derivative works, and to sublicense any or all of the foregoing rights to third parties.

b. Patent License.
You grant Microsoft, and those who receive the Code directly or indirectly from Microsoft, a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, irrevocable license under your patent claims that directly read on the Code to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell and import or otherwise dispose of the Code.


To be honest, I am not so sure of the ramifications of signing such contract (albeit non-exclusive). But after read this blog post: http://bitcoinist.net/microsoft-bullies-open-source-is-the-blockchain-their-next-target/, I am getting a little wary of signing such licensing contract...  Perpetual... worldwide.. royalty-free?  ::) ::) ::)  I know we're an open-source project.. But wording like this (irrevocable, worldwide, perpetual) really makes me suspicious of Microsoft's motives.  >:(

I am not a lawyer so I cannot say for certain how dangerous this contract is.. But I have to admit I'm getting worried..



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 01, 2016, 02:26:54 AM
Here is a different way of getting at the same set of issues: Why does Microsoft need Qora to sign anything at all if they can just clone the project and run their own version?

One answer to this question is: A project is only viable if it has investors/users who will secure the network and build applications on it or use it.

So, my cynical side says that MS would like to use the Qora dev team and current investors/users in order to test out possible uses for this technology. When it has proven its worth, MS will simply use the existing Qora blockchain for its own purposes. It would have to provide incentives to the current users so they don't all try to sell and leave the network unsecure, but MS has the deep pockets to do this. Technically, though, I am not sure how it would work.

Some of my best guesses about what is happening or likely to happen with Azure projects are based on my admittedly limited experience in software development. In the 1990s and 2000s, MS would identify interesting pieces of software that they wanted to add to their suite. They would make a reasonable offer to a company, usually a startup. The offer would essentially be, "We would like to pay you X amount of money for all of your code and developers. This is a good offer. If you refuse to sell to us, then we will design our own product that duplicates yours, and in two years we will easily outcompete you and you will be out of business. So what would you like to do?"


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 01, 2016, 03:10:30 AM
Some of my best guesses about what is happening or likely to happen with Azure projects are based on my admittedly limited experience in software development. In the 1990s and 2000s, MS would identify interesting pieces of software that they wanted to add to their suite. They would make a reasonable offer to a company, usually a startup. The offer would essentially be, "We would like to pay you X amount of money for all of your code and developers. This is a good offer. If you refuse to sell to us, then we will design our own product that duplicates yours, and in two years we will easily outcompete you and you will be out of business. So what would you like to do?"

Lol.. very, very, good point!  ;D  I understand what you're getting at... they're basically saying "Accepting our offer now.. or we will come up with a competing product, and then we will CRUSH you!"  ;D  Microsoft is still evil and ruthless after so many years.  :D I just re-read their licensing agreement, and it clearly stated that they will own the rights to all "derivative works."  So I guess basically, by signing such contract, other people will NOT be able to clone Qora, or they will risk having Microsoft going after them.  ::)

Having said that, I think we should focus on the root of the question: Let's just say we sign off the rights and don't care..  Does "getting Qora on Azure" really offer Qora the kind of benefits and advantages that we desire? There are only 3-4 benefits/advantages I can think of:

1. Getting a very large "Certified By Microsoft" label for Qora after we got vetted and accepted in the program.  ;D :D

2. Getting to use Azure cloud platform for free.

3. Attracting certain "Enterprise" or high-profile customers who are already familiar with MS technologies (with no previous exposure to crypto) to incorporate Qora in their product.  

4. Getting known by the wider, non-Crypto tech community.  Introducing people who are not already familiar with Crypto to Qora technologies.

I am not sure if all this effort will lead to wider adoption or not, so it's a gamble.

However, we must also keep in mind, to my knowledge, there are at least 6 Cryptos already being accepted into the program: Ethereum, Factom, Bitshare, Syscoin, Rapple.. etc So it is in NO way an exclusive club.

Therefore, I highly doubt that it will offer the same prestige as before when only one or two cryptos was in the program.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:18:49 AM
Giving up rights to the software is a very bad idea and it would likely mean that the plans for the CIYAM Developers to create a clone of Qora would have to be scrapped.

That being said it is up to the Qora community and developers to decide their future direction (so for now I will simply watch and see what unfolds).

Note that if the CIYAM Developers do end up creating a clone we would very much desire the assistance of the existing Qora developers and community (if there is no such support then it would be less likely to be worth the effort).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 01, 2016, 03:29:27 AM
My preference, in case it isn't obvious from my posts, is to resist any attempt at restricting the autonomy of the developers and users. Never surrender your rights to innovate and build something.
Microsoft was lord over the old world. But we are trying to build a new world, without the need of a corporate overlord.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eli_lyd1 on April 01, 2016, 03:30:36 AM
Giving up rights to the software is a very bad idea and it would likely mean that the plans for the CIYAM Developers to create a clone of Qora would have to be scrapped.

That being said it is up to the Qora community and developers to decide their future direction (so for now I will simply watch and see what unfolds).

Note that if the CIYAM Developers do end up creating a clone we would very much desire the assistance of the existing Qora developers and community (if there is no such support then it would be less likely to be worth the effort).


Don't worry, I don't support to join ms. I am the author of https://github.com/soliury/qora-wallet


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 01, 2016, 03:32:28 AM
How can you give up rights on an MIT licensed piece of software?

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Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

If you created a fork and changed the license, then maybe, but what part of "without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software" would allow MS to direct the development of Qora or control the blockchain?

Even if they/you changed the license, people would still be free to run the versions which are MIT licensed.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eli_lyd1 on April 01, 2016, 03:37:28 AM
Giving up rights to the software is a very bad idea and it would likely mean that the plans for the CIYAM Developers to create a clone of Qora would have to be scrapped.

That being said it is up to the Qora community and developers to decide their future direction (so for now I will simply watch and see what unfolds).

Note that if the CIYAM Developers do end up creating a clone we would very much desire the assistance of the existing Qora developers and community (if there is no such support then it would be less likely to be worth the effort).


And Maybe I can help you to build the qora clone. I have talked about with vbcs, I will add at qora-btc to qora-wallet soon.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 01, 2016, 03:40:35 AM
How can you give up rights on an MIT licensed piece of software?

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Permission is hereby granted, ...

If you created a fork and changed the license, then maybe, but what part of "without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software" would allow MS to direct the development of Qora or control the blockchain?

Even if they/you changed the license, people would still be free to run the versions which are MIT licensed.

It might take a lawyer of someone experienced in intellectual property rights to say for sure. But here is what I suspect: Qora devs sign the Azure contract. After several months of development under the Azure veil, MS can claim that the "new" Qora is significantly different from the "old" Qora, which was MIT licensed. And as such, they now have legal dominion over the "new" Qora.

If a company takes something that exists in the wild, something very common, and enhances it with some new design that significantly improves on the old design, then they can apply for protection (a copyright or patent) for their enhancements to the original, public design.

I admit that I am not an expert in these matters. I am simply trying to contribute a healthy dose of suspicion to this opportunity.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:41:19 AM
And maybe I can help you to build the qora clone. I have talked about with vbcs, I will add at qora-btc to qora-wallet soon.

That would be most helpful as UI is one major area that CIYAM Developers don't currently have covered.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eli_lyd1 on April 01, 2016, 03:43:44 AM
And maybe I can help you to build the qora clone. I have talked about with vbcs, I will add at qora-btc to qora-wallet soon.

That would be most helpful as UI is one major area that CIYAM Developers don't currently have covered.


But I don't know how to contact you,  I am in slack, my name is soliury


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 01, 2016, 03:48:19 AM
...

It might take a lawyer of someone experienced in intellectual property rights to say for sure. But here is what I suspect: Qora devs sign the Azure contract. After several months of development under the Azure veil, MS can claim that the "new" Qora is significantly different from the "old" Qora, which was MIT licensed. And as such, they now have legal dominion over the "new" Qora.

If a company takes something that exists in the wild, like a fork, say, something very common, and enhances it with some new design that significantly improves on the old design, then they can apply for protection (a copyright or patent) for their enhancements to the original, public design.

I admit that I am not an expert in these matters. I am simply trying to contribute a healthy dose of suspicion to this opportunity.

I appreciate healthy doses of skepticism, but don't you think if this were the case that out of ETH, XMR, and the myriad of other coins signed up for blockchain-as-a-service one of them might have had a lawyer take a look at what they signed up for? Here is fluffypony's description of what is required to get on azure:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4bs33o/monero_added_to_microsoft_azure_blockchain_as_a/d1c92rk


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:49:46 AM
But I don't know how to contact you,  I am in slack, my name is soliury

Please contact @vbcs to work out where we can meet (most likely either at CIYAM's slack or via group Skype IM).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:53:28 AM
I have a question regarding the Clone you were proposing (based on the new CIYAM blockchain)...

You mentioned that it won't be a coin, but it will involve Qora holders.  Could you elaborate on  how it will work?   :)

The CIYAM blockchain itself is not a coin at all, however, this potential clone may end up being one (in which case it will need to have its own separate "brand").

The key difference in approach with the CIYAM blockchain is that POW is used for account creation and verification (this also prevents Sybil attacks).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 01, 2016, 04:05:05 AM
...

It might take a lawyer of someone experienced in intellectual property rights to say for sure. But here is what I suspect: Qora devs...

I admit that I am not an expert in these matters. I am simply trying to contribute a healthy dose of suspicion to this opportunity.

I appreciate healthy doses of skepticism, but don't you think if this were the case that out of ETH, XMR, and the myriad of other coins signed up for blockchain-as-a-service one of them might have had a lawyer take a look at what they signed up for? Here is fluffypony's description of what is required to get on azure:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkFlarb/comments/4bs33o/monero_added_to_microsoft_azure_blockchain_as_a/d1c92rk

(That Reddit link did not work for me.)

Yes, they likely did. Athereum certainly has the money. So I can't say why they would sign something that, on the face of it, appears to forfeit their rights to use (in their own way) the very thing they are creating. So maybe someone with legal experience should be consulted, and I can stop making guesses.

Edit: I tried to correct the spelling of "Ethereum" three times, and it keeps putting the "A" back in.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 01, 2016, 04:19:34 AM
...

It might take a lawyer of someone experienced in intellectual property rights to say for sure. But here is what I suspect: Qora devs...

I admit that I am not an expert in these matters. I am simply trying to contribute a healthy dose of suspicion to this opportunity.

I appreciate healthy doses of skepticism, but don't you think if this were the case that out of ETH, XMR, and the myriad of other coins signed up for blockchain-as-a-service one of them might have had a lawyer take a look at what they signed up for? Here is fluffypony's description of what is required to get on azure:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkFlarb/comments/4bs33o/monero_added_to_microsoft_azure_blockchain_as_a/d1c92rk

(That Reddit link did not work for me.)

Yes, they likely did. Athereum certainly has the money. So I can't say why they would sign something that, on the face of it, appears to forfeit their rights to use (in their own way) the very thing they are creating. So maybe someone with legal experience should be consulted, and I can stop making guesses.

Edit: I tried to correct the spelling of "Athereum" three times, and it keeps putting the "A" back in.

I think it's an april fool's thing, both athereum and reddit link not working (because monero in the link is replaced with 'darkflarb').


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 05:27:19 AM
But I don't know how to contact you,  I am in slack, my name is soliury

I don't see you in slack too often.  What channel are you usually in? Are you in marketing channel as well (it's locked & protected).

BTW, are you working on the new user interface for Qora main wallet as well?  http://qora.co.in:9090/webwallet  <--- Is this your work?

If not, could you help out?  I love the icons you designed.. they are very sleek.  ;)

The http://qora.co.in:9090/webwallet website and the http://qora.co.in:9090/registername website were created by me.
My current standpoint regarding azure is also against it (which of course can change), but of course I will respect community decision.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MaGNeT on April 01, 2016, 06:32:22 AM
Impressive!

Qora just moved up to the 3rd coin in trading volume on PoloniEx  :)

And what I didn't realize until today: all previous Qora topics together, we already have 695 pages!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wosch76 on April 01, 2016, 07:50:39 AM
Impressive!

Qora just moved up to the 3rd coin in trading volume on PoloniEx  :)

And what I didn't realize until today: all previous Qora topics together, we already have 695 pages!
yes, that's awesome.

I hope CMC will update the link to the actual thread, so newbies didn't get confused.
I just asked them to do so.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 01, 2016, 08:09:38 AM
The http://qora.co.in:9090/webwallet website and the http://qora.co.in:9090/registername website were created by me.
My current standpoint regarding azure is also against it (which of course can change), but of course I will respect community decision.

Sorry! I forgot you were the one doing the Qora web wallet. My apology!  :P  Great work with the web wallet, by the way.

Skerberus, I've been talking to some of the Qora members in private, and I think we're kind of split on this.  Some people really want Microsoft Azure BaaS.  After hearing two sides' opinions, I am kind of undecided at this point.  I feel both sides have their merits.

Also, ask yourself this question: If it's so bad, why would coins like Athereum, Rapple, Factom.. etc signed up for it???  Weren't they be worried about giving their proprietary software away to Microsoft?  ::) ??? ??? Do you see what I'm getting at?  Obviously they aren't overtly concerned, so maybe the advantages outweighs the disadvantages.

I feel we need to let the qora community vote on it because it affects the investors' interest.  Would you do the honor and create a poll on the Qora client?

Let's vote on it and see where we stand!  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: loopt on April 01, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
Hi !

I'm new to qora.
I downloaded the windows client today and launched it however I cant seem to fully synchronize it.
It seems to hang half way through each time I try to launch it.
First time it stopped at 49% now it just stopped at 23 % with no further movement.

What can I do ?


On another subject, I am a web developper with decent experience in Java javascript and various related techs.
Is there something the qora project needs help with that I could participate in ?

Cheers


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bitme on April 01, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
Are private keys (seeds) that were created using first version of qora from 2014 still valid? I wonder if it's worth looking for it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 01, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
Let's do a vote and see where we stand in regard to the Azure issue, shall we?  :)

I created the poll: "  do you want qora to join microsoft azure baas?"

Gotta love this feature on Qora (even though the rich speak louder than the poor) :) Let's see what the community decides.

http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F (http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 01, 2016, 02:47:32 PM
Hi !

I'm new to qora.
I downloaded the windows client today and launched it however I cant seem to fully synchronize it.
It seems to hang half way through each time I try to launch it.
First time it stopped at 49% now it just stopped at 23 % with no further movement.

What can I do ?


On another subject, I am a web developper with decent experience in Java javascript and various related techs.
Is there something the qora project needs help with that I could participate in ?

Cheers


Welcome to the project. I think you are joining at a great time - please talk to 'agran' or 'skerberus' who are part of the core dev team. Great to have you on board!  edit - there is also a slack channel where the devs can be found: http://slack.qora.co.in/

Regarding the wallet: I like to download and use the most recent data folder here for quick install: http://qora.co.in/?datafolder. Delete the current data folder and wallet from the main qora folder and try to launch again with the dowloaded data folder. You will need to enter your seed and password again. Let us know how it goes.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 01, 2016, 02:49:49 PM
I am not sure what is the best for Qora - with or without Azure...
But we should think about CIYAMs posting! His opinion is very important for Qora!

Giving up rights to the software is a very bad idea and it would likely mean that the plans for the CIYAM Developers to create a clone of Qora would have to be scrapped.

That being said it is up to the Qora community and developers to decide their future direction (so for now I will simply watch and see what unfolds).

Note that if the CIYAM Developers do end up creating a clone we would very much desire the assistance of the existing Qora developers and community (if there is no such support then it would be less likely to be worth the effort).


And what is the Qora team's opinion?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 01, 2016, 02:50:05 PM
Are private keys (seeds) that were created using first version of qora from 2014 still valid? I wonder if it's worth looking for it.

Seeds are still valid but you will need the cooresponding password. Were you part of the genesis? Who knows, you my have a nice score given the increase in price?  :o ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 01, 2016, 02:52:21 PM
I am not sure what is the best for Qora - with or without Azure...
But we should think about CIYAMs posting! His opinion is very important for Qora!

Agree 100% this is a very good point.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: javargas on April 01, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
Hi !

I'm new to qora.
I downloaded the windows client today and launched it however I cant seem to fully synchronize it.
It seems to hang half way through each time I try to launch it.
First time it stopped at 49% now it just stopped at 23 % with no further movement.

What can I do ?


On another subject, I am a web developper with decent experience in Java javascript and various related techs.
Is there something the qora project needs help with that I could participate in ?

Cheers


I have same issue with windows client, synchronization highest level reached 47%. I have installed Windows 10.. Help!!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
Are private keys (seeds) that were created using first version of qora from 2014 still valid? I wonder if it's worth looking for it.

Seeds are still valid but you will need the cooresponding password. Were you part of the genesis? Who knows, you my have a nice score given the increase in price?  :o ;D

You only need the seed! The password is only for local encryption, and yes the seeds from 2014 are still valid.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: FJBourne on April 01, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
I also cannot run the windows wallet on windows 10. I get the qora banner popup and then it crashes. Any ideas?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 03:05:05 PM
Hi !

I'm new to qora.
I downloaded the windows client today and launched it however I cant seem to fully synchronize it.
It seems to hang half way through each time I try to launch it.
First time it stopped at 49% now it just stopped at 23 % with no further movement.

What can I do ?


On another subject, I am a web developper with decent experience in Java javascript and various related techs.
Is there something the qora project needs help with that I could participate in ?

Cheers


I have same issue with windows client, synchronization highest level reached 47%. I have installed Windows 10.. Help!!!

As a quick fix you can download the datafolder here http://qora.co.in/?datafolder


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 03:08:51 PM
I also cannot run the windows wallet on windows 10. I get the qora banner popup and then it crashes. Any ideas?

Current windows version unfortunately has a bug that will be fixed in the next version. Open your settings.json located in your qora installation folder and edit the path so that it contains double backslashes instead of single ones!
That might help regarding your problem.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Current windows version unfortunately has a bug that will be fixed in the next version. Open your settings.json located in your qora installation folder and edit the path so that it contains double backslashes instead of single ones!
That might help regarding your problem.

You can use '/' with Windows (it doesn't work so well with console command programs as '/' is the option prefix rather than '-' but it works fine for POSIX things like file operations).

(so you can use '/' in config files for both Linux and Windows assuming that is being used to identify file or folder names)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 03:24:17 PM
Current windows version unfortunately has a bug that will be fixed in the next version. Open your settings.json located in your qora installation folder and edit the path so that it contains double backslashes instead of single ones!
That might help regarding your problem.

You can use '/' with Windows (it doesn't work so well with console command programs as '/' is the option prefix rather than '-' but it works fine for POSIX things like file operations).

(so you can use '/' in config files for both Linux and Windows assuming that is being used to identify file or folder names)


Sure "/" will do fine too, that is also the way it is already fixed in the code. The variable with problems is only used in windows version to avoid right restrictions.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:26:14 PM
Sure "/" will do fine too, that is also the way it is already fixed in the code. The variable with problems is only used in windows version to avoid right restrictions.

For sure having to deal with '\' is a PITA (there is a lot of "escaping" code throughout the CIYAM project that is conditionally compiled for Windows although I would have thought that Java programs wouldn't have such problems).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on April 01, 2016, 03:29:28 PM
Qora not need Azure


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 03:34:57 PM
Sure "/" will do fine too, that is also the way it is already fixed in the code. The variable with problems is only used in windows version to avoid right restrictions.

For sure having to deal with '\' is a PITA (there is a lot of "escaping" code throughout the CIYAM project that is conditionally compiled for Windows although I would have thought that Java programs wouldn't have such problems).


If you write the property with java and then read it you will have no problem. This variable is written by advanced installer during windows installation and then read with java and that leads to problems here, because advanced installer writes it in this "bad way". Java itself does proper escaping of course.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 03:37:23 PM
If you write the property with java and then read it you will have no problem. This variable is written by advanced installer during windows installation and then read with java and that leads to problems here, because advanced installer writes it in this "bad way". Java itself does proper escaping of course.

Ouch - am guessing a bug report to the "not so advanced" installer might be in order. :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on April 01, 2016, 03:46:57 PM
Let's make CIYAM Cora's very own MS (but with radically new meaning since it's a community driven project so CIYAM (and Cora) will never ever end up like the MS that exists today. It will be tough though (I suspect for some time at least), since there aren't such very deep pockets like MS has.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 01, 2016, 04:03:16 PM
I've been asked by a few forum members about how a Qora fork would differ from Qora itself and I think that is a very important point to consider (as to whether this should be supported or not and I'm not going to be pushing for this but just providing some ideas).

My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).

IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.

Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.

I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 04:52:43 PM
This is a awsome Project and have a real future. This is the future of internet.

How to make a post on the public blog of Qora
Look that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNonZbsc6ck


This is not a another Mambo Jambo Coin !


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: javargas on April 01, 2016, 05:25:01 PM
Hi !

I'm new to qora.
I downloaded the windows client today and launched it however I cant seem to fully synchronize it.
It seems to hang half way through each time I try to launch it.
First time it stopped at 49% now it just stopped at 23 % with no further movement.

What can I do ?


On another subject, I am a web developper with decent experience in Java javascript and various related techs.
Is there something the qora project needs help with that I could participate in ?

Cheers


I have same issue with windows client, synchronization highest level reached 47%. I have installed Windows 10.. Help!!!

As a quick fix you can download the datafolder here http://qora.co.in/?datafolder


It's working!!! Thank you so much.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: mcjavar on April 01, 2016, 05:41:54 PM
Why is the Qora withdrawal disabled on BTer?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 05:45:25 PM
Have a lot of explanation about BTer problem in this topic. You can see backing in the pages.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: mcjavar on April 01, 2016, 05:46:40 PM
Have a lot of explanation about BTer problem in this topic. You can see backing in the pages.

Yeah, I see. So those coins are lost, if I am correct...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rlh on April 01, 2016, 05:49:34 PM
Have a lot of explanation about BTer problem in this topic. You can see backing in the pages.

Yeah, I see. So those coins are lost, if I am correct...

Short of a miracle, yes.  The sad truth is, though they claimed to be hacked, their Qora wallet address was and is well known.  In fact, it was one of the largest balances if it still isn't.  Not a single Qora has moved since the hack, yet they refuse to allow for withdrawals.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: turkojan on April 01, 2016, 05:52:30 PM
Hi there,
I'm facing this "invalid fee" error in my QORA wallet, when i try to send some coins to another wallet, create a name or everything that i try, every time gives me this "invalid fee" message also my forging is disable even with the wallet unlocked and sync, i'm using Windows 7 and wallet version 0.25.1 if someone knows the solutions help me please. thanks


ps: here is a print screen, even if i chagen the fee value to 1000 gives me the same.


Need to make sure you're on the right chain.  :)  Try restarting your qora client and let it sync again.  If that still does not work, download the data from agran's data folder (replace the chain on your computer):

http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

And try re-sync the client again.. Hope that helps  :)


Hi there, thanks for helping me, i followed your tips and nothing i think i'm on the wrong chain i dont know why i made just like you said, any more tips? ??? thanks


http://oi65.tinypic.com/213onx3.jpg



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 06:00:00 PM
Hi there,
I'm facing this "invalid fee" error in my QORA wallet, when i try to send some coins to another wallet, create a name or everything that i try, every time gives me this "invalid fee" message also my forging is disable even with the wallet unlocked and sync, i'm using Windows 7 and wallet version 0.25.1 if someone knows the solutions help me please. thanks


ps: here is a print screen, even if i chagen the fee value to 1000 gives me the same.


Need to make sure you're on the right chain.  :)  Try restarting your qora client and let it sync again.  If that still does not work, download the data from agran's data folder (replace the chain on your computer):

http://qora.co.in/?datafolder

And try re-sync the client again.. Hope that helps  :)


Hi there, thanks for helping me, i followed your tips and nothing i think i'm on the wrong chain i dont know why i made just like you said, any more tips? ??? thanks


http://oi65.tinypic.com/213onx3.jpg


The block explorer is currently out of sync!
Really strange your invalid fee problem! Can you please go to 127.0.0.1:9090/webwallet and try to transfer coins there. Is that working for you?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 06:07:42 PM
Qora is extremely undervalued. Have a lot of another poor coin projects in concept with lots of satoshis by unit. This team receive today a lot of incentive to insert this project to another level.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bikerleszno on April 01, 2016, 06:51:02 PM
Why QORA is better than other coins? I am new here. Please write me something more why it should have bigger value then others ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 07:05:43 PM
BBQCoin             0.00000273 BTC
Bolivarcoin (BOLI)  0.00000047 BTC
007Coin (007)       0.00000550 BTC
Cryptonite (XCN)    0.00000389 BTC
HoboNickels (HBN)   0.00000620 BTC
RonPaulCoin (RPC)   0.00003349 BTC
BumbaCoin (BUMBA)   0.00000045 BTC


Qora                        0.00000042 BTC


Congrats to Bumbacoin, 007coin, BBQ coin and this another coins! Really?

Someone can explain this?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ttx on April 01, 2016, 07:16:23 PM
Qora is extremely undervalued. Have a lot of another poor coin projects in concept with lots of satoshis by unit. This team receive today a lot of incentive to insert this project to another level.
In your opinion, how much should cost Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 07:23:06 PM
I dont know how much, but is clear that is extremely undervalued. But i really think that the developer team need start quickly yours own Social Network or a decentralized blog service to expand the
project development . I don't know if this is part of the original idea , but it would make a huge difference and bring many people to help work on the project .


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ttx on April 01, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
I agree. The project has no advertising. If add on the Azure, this slightly will change the situation.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wosterlee on April 01, 2016, 07:51:15 PM
I agree. The project has no advertising. If add on the Azure, this slightly will change the situation.

Selling your soul to Microsoft is not the only way to market your coin.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 01, 2016, 07:52:05 PM
I dont know how much, but is clear that is extremely undervalued. But i really think that the developer team need start quickly yours own Social Network or a decentralized blog service to expand the
project development . I don't know if this is part of the original idea , but it would make a huge difference and bring many people to help work on the project .

What do you mean? We already have a working decentralized social network, blogs and decentralized web?!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ApexEvo on April 01, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
So how it looks with QORA? Anything good going for it?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Quote
What do you mean? We already have a working decentralized social network, blogs and decentralized web?!


i'm searching about Decentralized Social Networks in google. Have some projects, but is just projects.  Seems Qora is only one that is working now in blockchain.
http://goo.gl/Wjx8p3

Need more advertising. Its not a project to 40 -50  satoshis.  The AMP coin of another Social Network project is 8k satoshis.
https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/synereo/

Another Projects
http://www.synereo.com/
http://datt.co/
http://decent.ch/

http://cointelegraph.com/news/social-network-uᴉoɔʇᴉq-facebook-youtube


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 01, 2016, 10:58:45 PM
This is very cool.
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blog.html

Why profile is disable? 


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 02, 2016, 12:20:44 AM
This is very cool.
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blog.html

Why profile is disable?  

That is a remote node (qora.co.in). If you start the wallet on your machine you will find that page on http:/127.0.0.1:9090/index/blog.html and can create a profile there.
See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNonZbsc6ck and this for further details http://qora.co.in:9090/skerberus/tutorials


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kennyP on April 02, 2016, 12:22:34 AM
Have a lot of explanation about BTer problem in this topic. You can see backing in the pages.

Yeah, I see. So those coins are lost, if I am correct...

Short of a miracle, yes.  The sad truth is, though they claimed to be hacked, their Qora wallet address was and is well known.  In fact, it was one of the largest balances if it still isn't.  Not a single Qora has moved since the hack, yet they refuse to allow for withdrawals.


BTER still operating is more baffling than Trump phenomenon. Both defy all rational explanation imo


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 02, 2016, 12:24:05 AM
This is very cool.
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blog.html

Why profile is disable?  

That is a remote node (qora.co.in). If you start the wallet on your machine you will find that page on http:/127.0.0.1:9090/index/blog.html and can create a profile there.
See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNonZbsc6ck and this for further details http://qora.co.in:9090/skerberus/tutorials

Thanks Skerberus.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Arrakeen on April 02, 2016, 01:09:18 AM
What's going on with Qora?!  Can anyone fill me in on what's been going on recently?  Or is this just some random whale manipulating the price  :-\


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 02, 2016, 01:24:16 AM
I think because the coin was extremely undervalued and the project restart again a few days ago.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: albertocp on April 02, 2016, 01:26:13 AM
I'm in as long as people report good earnings on mining.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on April 02, 2016, 05:13:24 AM
This guys is really thinking in long term or WTF is this?

http://i.imgur.com/oMOHidL.png

http://i.imgur.com/U1dccis.png



https://twitter.com/BlockchainBR/status/716129719297638400


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on April 02, 2016, 09:10:01 AM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).

As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).

Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.

Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).



Are you still thinking of monetizing ATfunding asset ?

ATFunding asset was created to fund CIYAM developers for implementing AT and ACCT between Qora AND BURST . Any considerations rewarding some of Qora clone coins to these people who supported AT implementation from the begining  ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Seanzqt on April 02, 2016, 09:18:27 AM
I think part is just the Hype and FUD, the other portions could actually be general interest and some in for the benefits of the long term. Whatever it is, I am liking the progress of the QORA coin. 8)

I only have 10 million in QORA, it isn't a huge investment, however, it's more so one of the biggest I have in any current coin on the market.

I have hope for QORA, though the development side and social aspects need to improve.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Jimmy2011 on April 02, 2016, 09:42:46 AM

The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 02, 2016, 09:59:05 AM

The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.


Make sure you save your wallet at a safe place. You can then try to make a fresh install of the new version, and just copy the wallet into your installation dir (universal version) and try to start form scratch. That should work.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Jimmy2011 on April 02, 2016, 10:07:22 AM

The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.


Make sure you save your wallet at a safe place. You can then try to make a fresh install of the new version, and just copy the wallet into your installation dir (universal version) and try to start form scratch. That should work.

I use version Qora_v0.25.1.zip. After sync, I deleted the wallet directory, and then put the old wallet directory there, and can't start it successfully.

So I deleted the data  directory, restart it again, however, it failed too.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on April 02, 2016, 10:17:51 AM

The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.


Make sure you save your wallet at a safe place. You can then try to make a fresh install of the new version, and just copy the wallet into your installation dir (universal version) and try to start form scratch. That should work.

I use version Qora_v0.25.1.zip. After sync, I deleted the wallet directory, and then put the old wallet directory there, and can't start it successfully.

So I deleted the data  directory, restart it again, however, it failed too.


You can also try to run the old version and recover your seed using the console http://api.qora.org/#seed


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 02, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
ATFunding asset was created to fund CIYAM developers for implementing AT and ACCT between Qora AND BURST . Any considerations rewarding some of Qora clone coins to these people who supported AT implementation from the begining  ?

Although no such details have even yet been discussed it is likely that offers for initial minting accounts would be taking that into consideration (ability to run a node 24x7 will be a key factor also).

Also note that any "coins" that comes from blocks that I personally mint in such a clone will be donated back to other minters (probably via an infinite loop AT or maybe an AT that results in some sort of random extra minting reward).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: loopt on April 02, 2016, 11:52:25 AM

Hi all,

Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.


I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.

What are your recommendations.

Thanks.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Jimmy2011 on April 02, 2016, 12:40:22 PM


You can also try to run the old version and recover your seed using the console http://api.qora.org/#seed

Solved. Thank you very much.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vbcs on April 02, 2016, 04:44:33 PM

Hi all,

Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.


I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.

What are your recommendations.

Thanks.



You only have to keep the master seed somewhere safe. Maybe on a piece of paper.

You can get the master seed from there: http://127.0.0.1:9085/wallet/seed


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 02, 2016, 05:29:32 PM
Hi all,

Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.


I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.

What are your recommendations.

Thanks.

The good thing about Qora is that everything is stored on Blockchain, so nothing will ever be lost, and no backup is needed. As vbcs has already mentioned, all you need is the "seed" and the "password" that go along with it, then you will be able to recover all your wallets & accounts on any computer/device you wish.  :)

PS: You can do an experiment yourself, on a 2nd computer, download the qora client, enter your seed, and enter the number of wallets you had created (all your wallets with funds in them), let the client sync... as soon as it finishes syncing, all your funds should be available for your use.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vbcs on April 02, 2016, 05:53:13 PM
Hi all,

Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.


I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.

What are your recommendations.

Thanks.

The good thing about Qora is that everything is stored on Blockchain, so nothing will ever be lost, and no backup is needed. As vbcs has already mentioned, all you need is the "seed" and the "password" that go along with it, then you will be able to recover all your wallets & accounts on any computer/device you wish.  :)

PS: You can do an experiment yourself, on a 2nd computer, download the qora client, enter your seed, and enter the number of wallets you had created (all your wallets with funds in them), let the client sync... as soon as it finishes syncing, all your funds should be available for your use.  :)

Just a note - the password is only used to encrypt the local wallet folder so you dont have to keep it. When restoring from seed you can choose whatever password you like.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MadCow on April 02, 2016, 08:58:36 PM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).

As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).

Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.

Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).


I wonder if all the people buying Qora in the last few days noticed the small print, 'Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post'


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 03, 2016, 04:50:55 AM
I've been asked by a few forum members about how a Qora fork would differ from Qora itself and I think that is a very important point to consider (as to whether this should be supported or not and I'm not going to be pushing for this but just providing some ideas).

My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).

IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.

Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.

I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).


Having read this makes me think it would be much better to improve qora rather than fork it for a new project, even though some of the features you would like to adopt may not be able to be implemented with the current qora chain (not sure). Part of me thinks this because I would rather see development continue on qora without diluting the talent.  :)

Also, I don't think a small fee (what is it, 1 qora) for a blog post is more than people are willing to contribute. At the same time, of course qora is open source, and you can do what you want. I think you would also likely have an automatic community built in if you distributed based on the "snapshot" of qora holders.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MadCow on April 03, 2016, 04:58:37 AM
I've been asked by a few forum members about how a Qora fork would differ from Qora itself and I think that is a very important point to consider (as to whether this should be supported or not and I'm not going to be pushing for this but just providing some ideas).

My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).

IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.

Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.

I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).


Having read this makes me think it would be much better to improve qora rather than fork it for a new project, even though some of the features you would like to adopt may not be able to be implemented with the curreny qora chain (not sure). Part of me thinks this because I would rather see development continue on qora without diluting the talent.  :)

Also, I don't think a small fee (what is it, 1 qora) for a blog post is more than people are willing to contribute. At the same time, of course qora is open source, and you can do what you want. I think you would also likely have an automatic community built in if you distributed based on the "snapshot" of qora holders.





I agree diluting the available talent is a concern. Can CIYAM confirm whether his new blockchain project would even work with PoS or not? My understanding was account creation requires PoW to avoid spam, but after that the new blockchain doesn't require a coin to function (i.e. the reference to Diaspora project requiring users to pay which isn't good for adoption)


As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.

The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 03, 2016, 05:29:47 AM
In regards to the development talent unfortunately one of the main developers (@agran) is already leaving the project and @vbcs has been primarily a CIYAM developer since starting work on AT (well before AT was added to Qora).

IMO if he is working on a clone of the Qora project then actually it should benefit Qora as he will become more familiar with the source code and be able to contribute more to the project.

From what I gather it was actually the vision of @Vrontis to split Qora into several blockchains that each specialised in one area (in this case the social network area) but if the community is going to become divided over this then we won't pursue it.

The intention behind this idea is to eventually have numerous blockchains that all specialise in different things but can be bound together with AT being the "glue" (and ACCT for moving coins between them).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 05:29:15 AM
Good news! Qora is about to have a new developer joining the dev team (someone who has been contributing to qora code base and providing important consultation in the past).  I'm going to confirm all the details before making an announcement.  :)

Ciao!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kennyP on April 04, 2016, 06:29:23 AM
Good news! Qora is about to have a new developer joining the dev team (someone who has been contributing to qora code base and providing important consultation in the past).  I'm going to confirm all the details before making an announcement.  :)

Ciao!

That's great news! Is the original Qora dev still on the team?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 06:42:37 AM
Good news! Qora is about to have a new developer joining the dev team (someone who has been contributing to qora code base and providing important consultation in the past).  I'm going to confirm all the details before making an announcement.  :)

Ciao!

That's great news! Is the original Qora dev still on the team?

Funny you mentioned the original dev.  :) He has been online and checking his PMs in the past couple days.  I was hoping to get in touch with him and convince him to come back as a consultant.  However, the developer I was referring to was not the original Qora dev.  :)

That developer is very enthusiastic about Qora and has agreed to join Qora's dev team.  I just wanted to send words to all involved parties and notified everyone before formally announcing his involvement.  I believe his joining is critical to the success of this project, and is absolutely necessary if we want to take this project to the next level.

 :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kennyP on April 04, 2016, 06:46:30 AM
Good news! Qora is about to have a new developer joining the dev team (someone who has been contributing to qora code base and providing important consultation in the past).  I'm going to confirm all the details before making an announcement.  :)

Ciao!

That's great news! Is the original Qora dev still on the team?

Funny you mentioned the original dev.  :) He has been online and checking his PMs in the past couple days.  I was hoping to get in touch with him and convince him to come back as a consultant.  However, the developer I was referring to was not the original Qora dev.  :)

That developer is very enthusiastic about Qora and have agreed to join Qora's dev team.  I just wanted to send words to all involved parties and notified everyone before formally announcing his involvement.  I believe his joining is critical to the success of this project, and is absolutely necessary if we want to take this project to the next level.

 :D


Good answer, thanks for the explanation! It would be cool if the Qora dev came back, he's one of the true crypto legends IMO. Hopefully the time away from this project helped recharge his batteries some. The new guy sounds top notch!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 06:57:07 AM
Good answer, thanks for the explanation! It would be cool if the Qora dev came back, he's one of the true crypto legends IMO. Hopefully the time away from this project helped recharge his batteries some. The new guy sounds top notch!

Don't get your hopes up because it's a long-shot.  :)  I was just hoping that (original) Qora dev would somehow provide consultation and offer advice to the dev team since he's the most valuable asset there is.  :)  He's an extremely busy man, and I am not so sure he would agree to make code contribution in any form.  In case you haven't read this, this is original Qora dev's code repository: https://github.com/razakal/Qora

yes! I am sure you will love the new guy! I don't want to say anything yet because I want to get more profile information (stuffs he had worked in the past.. credential.. etc) before I release anything.  Stay tuned!  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 07:32:42 AM
Important Announcement: Poll created for Qora's Potential Involvement in Microsoft Azure BaaS Program

Please be advised that a poll has been created by Skerberus in regard to Qora's involvement in Microsoft's Azure Blockchain As a Service Program (BaaS).  This will most likely affect the value of your investment, so we'd highly encourage the whole community to participate!  The outcome of this poll will decide whether we will apply to join the program or not.

Azure Poll (You can access the decentralized voting system inside your Qora client by going to the Voting tab): http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

In a nutshell, MS Azure BaaS platform is the cloud computing/deployment platform designed specifically for blockchain-as-a-service (BaaS) purpose. By deploying the blockchain on Azure, it would be easier for potential developers and companies to interact and experiment with the blockchain, and create custom apps on top of the platform using existing MS technologies.
 
PROs:

1. By joining the program, we will be able to reach institutions and enterprises (banks, accounting firms.. etc) who otherwise will not be interested in learning and working with Qora.  In other words, we will be able to reach audience outside of current Crypto community.

2. Microsoft will soon offer "Azure Blockchain Marketplace" with rigorous certification process (security vetting conducted by Microsoft). This is the kind of recognition we need.

3. Azure has tools that'll make building/deploying new Blockchain technologies much easier: check out https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devtest-lab/

4. Developers with no previous exposure to Crytocurrency and Blockchain Technologies will be able to interact/experiment with Qora utilizing existing Microsoft Technologies.

5. Big-name coins like Ethereum are already on it.

CONs:

1. Because of copyright and patent agreements that must be signed as part of the application process, NO Clones of qora or any derivative works based on Qora can be made.  For those of you who wish to be part of CIYAM's new Blockchain, you will be disppointed.  :(

2. A licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights has to be signed before being accepted into the program. 

3. The contract cannot be annulled once joined.  


---------------------------------------------------

The Poll will run for 2 weeks and close on April 15th.  Feel free to add to my list of Pros and Cons as you see fit. Happy Voting!  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 04, 2016, 10:39:46 AM
Important Announcement: Poll created for Qora's Potential Involvement in Microsoft Azure BaaS Program

Please be advised that a poll has been created by Skerberus in regard to Qora's involvement in Microsoft's Azure Blockchain As a Service Program (BaaS)This will most likely affect the value of your investment, so we'd highly encourage the whole community to participate!  The outcome of this poll will decide whether we will apply to join the program or not.

Azure Poll (You can access the decentralized voting system inside your Qora client by going to the Voting tab): http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

In a nutshell, MS Azure BaaS platform is the cloud computing/deployment platform designed specifically for blockchain-as-a-service (BaaS) purpose. By deploying the blockchain on Azure, it would be easier for potential developers and companies to interact and experiment with the blockchain, and create custom apps on top of the platform using existing MS technologies.
 
PROs:

1. By joining the program, we will be able to reach institutions and enterprises (banks, accounting firms.. etc) who otherwise will not be interested in learning and working with Qora.  In other words, we will be able to reach audience outside of current Crypto community.

2. Microsoft will soon offer "Azure Blockchain Marketplace" with rigorous certification process (security vetting conducted by Microsoft). This is the kind of recognition we need.

3. Azure has tools that'll make building/deploying new Blockchain technologies much easier: check out https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devtest-lab/

4. Developers with no previous exposure to Crytocurrency and Blockchain Technologies will be able to interact/experiment with Qora utilizing existing Microsoft Technologies.

5. Big-name coins like Ethereum are already on it.

CONs:

1. Because of copyright and patent agreements that must be signed as part of the application process, NO Clones of qora or any derivative works based on Qora can be made.  For those of you who wish to be part of CIYAM's new Blockchain, you will be disppointed.  :(

2. A licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights has to be signed before being accepted into the program. 

3. The contract cannot be annulled once joined. 


---------------------------------------------------

The Poll will run for 2 weeks and close on April 15th.  Feel free to add to my list of Pros and Cons as you see fit. Happy Voting!  ;D


GoldenKnight369, you are a good promoter for Qora! Thanks!

ONE thing additional: Qora could chain to azure any time later - but cannot leave azure once joined, if I understand right!
Maybe it's better to wait!?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 04, 2016, 10:54:34 AM
Important Announcement: Poll created for Qora's Potential Involvement in Microsoft Azure BaaS Program

Please be advised that a poll has been created by Skerberus in regard to Qora's involvement in Microsoft's Azure Blockchain As a Service Program (BaaS).  This will most likely affect the value of your investment, so we'd highly encourage the whole community to participate!  The outcome of this poll will decide whether we will apply to join the program or not.

Azure Poll (You can access the decentralized voting system inside your Qora client by going to the Voting tab): http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

In a nutshell, MS Azure BaaS platform is the cloud computing/deployment platform designed specifically for blockchain-as-a-service (BaaS) purpose. By deploying the blockchain on Azure, it would be easier for potential developers and companies to interact and experiment with the blockchain, and create custom apps on top of the platform using existing MS technologies.
 
PROs:

1. By joining the program, we will be able to reach institutions and enterprises (banks, accounting firms.. etc) who otherwise will not be interested in learning and working with Qora.  In other words, we will be able to reach audience outside of current Crypto community.

2. Microsoft will soon offer "Azure Blockchain Marketplace" with rigorous certification process (security vetting conducted by Microsoft). This is the kind of recognition we need.

3. Azure has tools that'll make building/deploying new Blockchain technologies much easier: check out https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devtest-lab/

4. Developers with no previous exposure to Crytocurrency and Blockchain Technologies will be able to interact/experiment with Qora utilizing existing Microsoft Technologies.

5. Big-name coins like Ethereum are already on it.

CONs:

1. Because of copyright and patent agreements that must be signed as part of the application process, NO Clones of qora or any derivative works based on Qora can be made.  For those of you who wish to be part of CIYAM's new Blockchain, you will be disppointed.  :(

2. A licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights has to be signed before being accepted into the program.  

3. The contract cannot be annulled once joined.  


---------------------------------------------------

The Poll will run for 2 weeks and close on April 15th.  Feel free to add to my list of Pros and Cons as you see fit. Happy Voting!  ;D


GoldenKnight369, you are a good promoter for Qora! Thanks!

ONE thing additional: Qora could chain to azure any time later - but cannot leave azure once joined, if I understand right!
Maybe it's better to wait!?



Apparently NEM decided to join the Microsoft Azure program, but avoided signing a licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights by paying to join Azure.

Could the Qora community also consider paying to join the Microsoft Azure program, and avoid losing the rights to the software like NEM?

How much would it cost to pay to to join?

It's another option we might consider and vote on.



...

FYI

From the New Economy Movement blog (http://blog.nem.io/status-on-the-azure-project/):

Status on The Azure Project
29 Mar 2016


The tech team, rb2 and Patmst3r, worked hard in getting NEM into a docker for Azure. In case some of you who may not know Azure, it is a Microsoft cloud computing platform and infrastructure. Recently, some months ago, Microsoft opened up Azure for crypto projects to place their solutions there in the cloud repository so that testers are able to download and testbed these initiatives from one location.
We spent a considerable amount of time getting this done. Unfortunately, at the last stage of our submission we were shown the agreement. In the agreement, to put our solution up there, requires us to give away all our rights. This is not quite palatable.
This article has been pretty explicit:

http://bitcoinist.net/microsoft-bullies-open-source-is-the-blockchain-their-next-target/

The agreement which is publicly available for us to peruse by Microsoft, confirms it:

http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf

Having given it due consideration and thoughts, we have decided that NEM should be independent. Instead, we are proposing to still put it on Azure as a docker but we pay for it. By paying for it, we are assuming to be a customer of MS instead. In doing so, we are free from losing our rights as well as still prove that we are able to put it on the Azure cloud and allow testers to work on our solution without NEM losing any rights at all.
In short, putting the NEM docker on Azure, in our opinion, is nothing more than making it simpler to install, vis-à-vis via Github. Putting it on Azure also extends our solution to making it available to people who are familiar with the MS service platform.

NEM does not believe that it should lose its rights to anyone, not in the very spirit of how crypto projects are founded upon.
On that basis, NEM would like to announce that it has no intention to get itself listed in Azure for free like the rest of the other projects, unless MS waives that agreement, for which if they are sincere, they should. Instead NEM will investigate a paid addition to Azure, achieving the same goal for a cost but keeping our full rights.





Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 04, 2016, 11:02:08 AM
Seems that Bter's Qora wallet is working again - after nearly one year!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Mig-23 on April 04, 2016, 11:03:36 AM
how many total coin ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 04, 2016, 11:08:00 AM
how many total coin ?
block explorer shows about 10 % of all Qora:
http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: x13 on April 04, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
I have voted with "Not sure yet". i miss some information. is it really not possible to clone Qora before participating on the Azure platform?

Important Announcement: Poll created for Qora's Potential Involvement in Microsoft Azure BaaS Program

Please be advised that a poll has been created by Skerberus in regard to Qora's involvement in Microsoft's Azure Blockchain As a Service Program (BaaS).  This will most likely affect the value of your investment, so we'd highly encourage the whole community to participate!  The outcome of this poll will decide whether we will apply to join the program or not.

Azure Poll (You can access the decentralized voting system inside your Qora client by going to the Voting tab): http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

In a nutshell, MS Azure BaaS platform is the cloud computing/deployment platform designed specifically for blockchain-as-a-service (BaaS) purpose. By deploying the blockchain on Azure, it would be easier for potential developers and companies to interact and experiment with the blockchain, and create custom apps on top of the platform using existing MS technologies.
 
PROs:

1. By joining the program, we will be able to reach institutions and enterprises (banks, accounting firms.. etc) who otherwise will not be interested in learning and working with Qora.  In other words, we will be able to reach audience outside of current Crypto community.

2. Microsoft will soon offer "Azure Blockchain Marketplace" with rigorous certification process (security vetting conducted by Microsoft). This is the kind of recognition we need.

3. Azure has tools that'll make building/deploying new Blockchain technologies much easier: check out https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devtest-lab/

4. Developers with no previous exposure to Crytocurrency and Blockchain Technologies will be able to interact/experiment with Qora utilizing existing Microsoft Technologies.

5. Big-name coins like Ethereum are already on it.

CONs:

1. Because of copyright and patent agreements that must be signed as part of the application process, NO Clones of qora or any derivative works based on Qora can be made.  For those of you who wish to be part of CIYAM's new Blockchain, you will be disppointed.  :(

2. A licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights has to be signed before being accepted into the program. 

3. The contract cannot be annulled once joined.  


---------------------------------------------------

The Poll will run for 2 weeks and close on April 15th.  Feel free to add to my list of Pros and Cons as you see fit. Happy Voting!  ;D



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 01:08:58 PM
I have voted with "Not sure yet". i miss some information. is it really not possible to clone Qora before participating on the Azure platform?

Personally I would not risk cloning software that then ends up under the control of Microsoft (who have had a long track record of trying to put down open source projects and trying to hinder their progress as they know it spells the end of their closed source software model).

If Qora goes down this path I do hope that they pay so that the intellectual property remains under the MIT license - but if they elect not to then CIYAM won't be involved with any clone of it (and for sure Ethereum would have paid to keep their IP open).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MadCow on April 04, 2016, 01:15:31 PM
I have voted with "Not sure yet". i miss some information. is it really not possible to clone Qora before participating on the Azure platform?

Personally I would not risk cloning software that then ends up under the control of Microsoft (who have had a long track record of trying to put down open source projects and trying to hinder their progress as they know it spells the end of their closed source software model).

If Qora goes down this path I do hope that they pay so that the intellectual property remains under the MIT license - but if they elect not to then CIYAM won't be involved with any clone of it (and for sure Ethereum would have paid to keep their IP open).


I also think Azure is too risky, and looks like a passing fad. Cost benefit isn't worth it IMO. Qora should stay independent as long as possible.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 04, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
...

1. Because of copyright and patent agreements that must be signed as part of the application process, NO Clones of qora or any derivative works based on Qora can be made.  For those of you who wish to be part of CIYAM's new Blockchain, you will be disppointed.  :(

2. A licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights has to be signed before being accepted into the program. 

3. The contract cannot be annulled once joined.  

...


Can you publish the documents that need to be signed in terms of copyright and patent agreements, or is there an NDA or something, because point #1 seems untenable in my IANAL opinion. As the license stands, MIT, anyone is free to fork and modify the code. In order to change the license, I believe you would need signed agreement from all contributors to the current codebase, and that would apply only to future versions, not already MIT released code.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 01:43:30 PM
Regardless of the actual legality of the license agreement Microsoft are very fond of fighting law suits (even when they are likely to lose them) so I won't be permitting CIYAM to be involved with any situation that might end up in a potential law suit with Microsoft.

Imagine if every bug fix (published in a future version) could not be applied to a clone for fear of a lawsuit with Microsoft for merging the commit (you just aren't going to risk the trouble IMO).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 04, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Regardless of the actual legality of the license agreement Microsoft are very fond of fighting law suits (even when they are likely to lose them) so I won't be permitting CIYAM to be involved with any situation that might end up in a potential law suit with Microsoft.

Imagine if every bug fix (published in a future version) could not be applied to a clone for fear of a lawsuit with Microsoft for merging the commit (you just aren't going to risk the trouble IMO).


Read both answers here:
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/173193/open-source-library-can-the-project-owner-change-the-license-to-be-more-restric

There is no way MS could claim any dominion over code that has already been distributed with an MIT license, even if all contributors to Qora agreed to change the license at the time of signing on to Azure service. Relevant quotes:

Quote
Since the license covers distribution the terms you agreed to when they distributed it to you still apply, they can't suddenly revoke an MIT library that has been in use for years.

Quote
However, code previously licensed under a permissive license, gives others the right to distribute that code to anyone they wish to. So, old code, once distributed under a permissive license, can be re-distributed under that same license. In theory that means the old code remains available to everyone as Open Source software, provided someone continues to distribute it.

Take it with a grain of salt, it is stackoverflow legal advice after all, but the MIT license is pretty short and clear in its intentions.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 01:56:41 PM
There is no way MS could claim any dominion over code that has already been distributed with an MIT license, even if all contributors to Qora agreed to change the license at the time of signing on to Azure service.

Whilst I don't doubt that Microsoft would lose any lawsuit over a clone prior to the change of license that certainly doesn't mean that they wouldn't try it and my point was the bug fixes made after the change of license could not be applied to the clones (unless written in a different manner which is another potential lawsuit).

Microsoft (and other such companies) spend many millions per year on lawyers and are always in court and quite simply CIYAM does not have the funds to be involved in any lawsuit with the likes of them.

Personally I would hope that the Qora team come up with the funds to retain ownership of the IP if they decide to go down this path.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 02:15:41 PM
I would hope that if Qora decides to go down the path of giving up its rights to Microsoft that they first remove AT from the software as I will never agree for Microsoft to have any IP rights to AT (which was invented by myself and coded entirely by CIYAM Developers).

So to be clear - there will be no assistance for the AT code in Qora from the CIYAM Developers if any such change of software license takes place.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eli_lyd1 on April 04, 2016, 02:18:26 PM
I would hope that if Qora decides to go down the path of giving up its rights to Microsoft that they first remove AT from the software as I will never agree for Microsoft to have any IP rights of AT (which was invented by myself and coded entirely by CIYAM Developers).

So to be clear - there will be no assistance for the AT code in Qora from the CIYAM Developers once any such change of software license has occurred.


Don't be worry, qora won't join MIcrosoft.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: hashtag101 on April 04, 2016, 02:23:57 PM
I would hope that if Qora decides to go down the path of giving up its rights to Microsoft that they first remove AT from the software as I will never agree for Microsoft to have any IP rights to AT (which was invented by myself and coded entirely by CIYAM Developers).

So to be clear - there will be no assistance for the AT code in Qora from the CIYAM Developers if any such change of software license takes place.



Qora wouldn't be giving up its rights to Microsoft I don't believe.

I've been wrong before, why would you say this?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
Qora wouldn't be giving up its rights to Microsoft I don't believe.

I've been wrong before, why would you say this?

If they join Azure BAAS without paying then indeed they would be giving up the IP rights (that is in the legal contract for using the service for free).

From what I gather if you pay for said service then you can retain the IP rights (that would of course need to be verified) so if going down this path at all then I hope that it is going to be funded.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 04, 2016, 02:43:30 PM
Suppose some group of developers came along and forked Qora. Then they could make a deal to join Azure and sign away their rights to that specific codebase from that point forward only, and there isn't anything that the current devs or coin holders could do about it, right?

But, if this happens, no matter what that license agreement with Azure says, there is no way that MS could force the current and evolving Qora team and consultants/contributors, including CIYAM, to do anything at all, right?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 03:11:13 PM
Suppose some group of developers came along and forked Qora. Then they could make a deal to join Azure and sign away their rights to that specific codebase from that point forward only, and there isn't anything that the current devs or coin holders could do about it, right?

Except that Microsoft are not allowing clones to use it - so Qora would be ineligible if it were cloned prior to signing up (at least that's how I interpreted the rules).

But, if this happens, no matter what that license agreement with Azure says, there is no way that MS could force the current and evolving Qora team and consultants/contributors, including CIYAM, to do anything at all, right?

I have zero interest in having to deal with any legal issue with Microsoft (even if I would win any lawsuit) so put simply no further AT development would happen for Qora would this transpire (from the CIYAM Developers).

Note that this will likely affect the work on the new ACCT code as well (I will have to discuss this with @vbcs but will be recommending that he cease work until this is sorted out).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: sparta_cuss on April 04, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
I have zero interest in having to deal with any legal issue with Microsoft (even if I would win any lawsuit) so put simply no further AT development would happen for Qora would this transpire (from the CIYAM Developers).
...

I am with you there. As I have said earlier, Microsoft is the old economy, and these projects are trying to reimagine everything. Partnering with MS would be a step backward.

I followed you over here from Nxt and even bought into the NxtAT asset, so I hope you can get things sorted out and can continue on with Qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 04, 2016, 03:33:07 PM
Qora wouldn't be giving up its rights to Microsoft I don't believe.

I've been wrong before, why would you say this?

If they join Azure BAAS without paying then indeed they would be giving up the IP rights (that is in the legal contract for using the service for free).

From what I gather if you pay for said service then you can retain the IP rights (that would of course need to be verified) so if going down this path at all then I hope that it is going to be funded.


Where is the legal contract? Which IP rights are being given up? 


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 03:35:34 PM
Where is the legal contract? Which IP rights are being given up? 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1358722.msg14417641#msg14417641

(there are some links in that post)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 04, 2016, 03:53:13 PM
Where is the legal contract? Which IP rights are being given up? 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1358722.msg14417641#msg14417641

(there are some links in that post)


Those links don't have the agreement. You can obtain a copy of the agreement here:
http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf

I talked to fluffypony about it (because Monero was recently added to Azure, so he just went through the process). Here is what he had to say:

Quote
[08:35:48] <jwinterm> fluffypony: what did you have to sign for MS azure integration?
[08:38:26] <jwinterm> It basically consisted of signing a Contributor License Agreement, submitting a PR to the Azure templates Github repo, and sending them a write-up.
[08:39:05] <jwinterm> CLA agreement publicly available?
[08:42:20] <fluffypony> jwinterm: yes, I think
[08:42:27] <fluffypony> https://cla.azure.com has it, I think
[08:42:38] <grubles> azure integration?
[08:43:06] <fluffypony> grubles: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-update-7/
[08:43:14] <othe> jwinterm on azure? pump pump
[08:43:27] <jwinterm> just curious
[08:43:35] <jwinterm> ciyam is on the qora thread talking about MS getting IP rights
[08:43:48] <grubles> fluffypony: oh nice!
[08:43:51] <jwinterm> about how if qora gets on ms azure then ms will own all IP related to qora
[08:44:20] <fluffypony> the license only covers the code you submit to the Azure Github repo
[08:44:34] <fluffypony> for obvious reasons you have to sign that before they'll merge it
[08:44:48] <fluffypony> so it's just the install script and a README, in our case
[08:45:02] <fluffypony> but literally anyone can submit the PR and sign the CLA
[08:45:08] <fluffypony> I can go and put Qora on there and he can't stop me

[08:45:14] <othe> yeah one person did that for 5 coins...
[08:45:26] <jwinterm> anyway, thanks for explanation
[08:46:08] <grubles> is bitcoin on azure?
[08:46:16] <lsd25> Heyyyyyy :)
[08:46:20] <grubles> i can't find any info
[08:46:21] <jwinterm> I don't think so, maybe bitpay, grubles
[08:46:34] <moneromooo> That site seems to want my github password before it lets me see anything... Fishy.
[08:46:46] <fluffypony> http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf
[08:46:47] <fluffypony> foudn it
[08:46:47] <othe> no but u can just make your own template for that, its basically just a shell script that runs on the first start
[08:46:48] <fluffypony> *found
[08:47:11] <fluffypony> it only covers the contribution you make to their Github repo
[08:47:25] <grubles> othe: similar to user data for AWS?

Relevant portion of conversation bolded. So, the only code that you are giving over to MS is the install script that will go on their github repo. I hope this clears up any confusion about whether MS would have any claim on any Qora copyrights or other IP.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 03:57:29 PM
I'm afraid that some IRC from a "fluffypony" isn't acceptable as "proof" to myself (please hire an actual lawyer if you want to convince me).

We'll see what happens in regards to the poll but if Qora goes Azure then AT development (from CIYAM) will be ceased.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 04, 2016, 04:01:44 PM
I'm afraid that some IRC from a "fluffypony" isn't acceptable as "proof" to myself (please hire an actual lawyer if you want to convince me).

We'll see what happens in regards to the poll but if Qora goes Azure then AT development (from CIYAM) will be ceased.

/me considers adding Qora to Azure just to troll CIYAM...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 04, 2016, 04:04:49 PM
/me considers adding Qora to Azure just to troll CIYAM...

It really doesn't bother me to move AT development elsewhere (it has happened before).

Also - from a marketing point of view once it has become public knowledge that "scam coins" are on Azure then I don't think it is going to be such a benefit (and in fact Microsoft may end up being embarrassed).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on April 04, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Important Announcement: Poll created for Qora's Potential Involvement in Microsoft Azure BaaS Program

Please be advised that a poll has been created by Skerberus in regard to Qora's involvement in Microsoft's Azure Blockchain As a Service Program (BaaS).  This will most likely affect the value of your investment, so we'd highly encourage the whole community to participate!  The outcome of this poll will decide whether we will apply to join the program or not.

Azure Poll (You can access the decentralized voting system inside your Qora client by going to the Voting tab): http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

In a nutshell, MS Azure BaaS platform is the cloud computing/deployment platform designed specifically for blockchain-as-a-service (BaaS) purpose. By deploying the blockchain on Azure, it would be easier for potential developers and companies to interact and experiment with the blockchain, and create custom apps on top of the platform using existing MS technologies.
 
PROs:

1. By joining the program, we will be able to reach institutions and enterprises (banks, accounting firms.. etc) who otherwise will not be interested in learning and working with Qora.  In other words, we will be able to reach audience outside of current Crypto community.

2. Microsoft will soon offer "Azure Blockchain Marketplace" with rigorous certification process (security vetting conducted by Microsoft). This is the kind of recognition we need.

3. Azure has tools that'll make building/deploying new Blockchain technologies much easier: check out https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devtest-lab/

4. Developers with no previous exposure to Crytocurrency and Blockchain Technologies will be able to interact/experiment with Qora utilizing existing Microsoft Technologies.

5. Big-name coins like Ethereum are already on it.

CONs:

1. Because of copyright and patent agreements that must be signed as part of the application process, NO Clones of qora or any derivative works based on Qora can be made.  For those of you who wish to be part of CIYAM's new Blockchain, you will be disppointed.  :(

2. A licensing contract that involves patent and distribution rights has to be signed before being accepted into the program. 

3. The contract cannot be annulled once joined.  


---------------------------------------------------

The Poll will run for 2 weeks and close on April 15th.  Feel free to add to my list of Pros and Cons as you see fit. Happy Voting!  ;D


I agree theres a lot to be won in this venture, so ill guess we should join, but after the next big Qora release. Why? Because if the community will lose its right to the software (aka proprietary M$ bullcrap) this will give the oportunity to fork and build on the new services.

Also on building different software/brand/blockchain for new services, IMHO this should come to a vote too. thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on April 04, 2016, 04:45:23 PM
Hello,

Im having a lot of disconnects with the Win and Uni wallets on Win7. Is there any way I can forge from a linux terminal?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: reader31 on April 04, 2016, 06:23:42 PM
There is no way MS could claim any dominion over code that has already been distributed with an MIT license, even if all contributors to Qora agreed to change the license at the time of signing on to Azure service.

Whilst I don't doubt that Microsoft would lose any lawsuit over a clone prior to the change of license that certainly doesn't mean that they wouldn't try it and my point was the bug fixes made after the change of license could not be applied to the clones (unless written in a different manner which is another potential lawsuit).

Microsoft (and other such companies) spend many millions per year on lawyers and are always in court and quite simply CIYAM does not have the funds to be involved in any lawsuit with the likes of them.

Personally I would hope that the Qora team come up with the funds to retain ownership of the IP if they decide to go down this path.



Agreed If we end up joining the M$ program...then we should crowdfund and pay to join...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 04, 2016, 07:40:23 PM
There is no way MS could claim any dominion over code that has already been distributed with an MIT license, even if all contributors to Qora agreed to change the license at the time of signing on to Azure service.

Whilst I don't doubt that Microsoft would lose any lawsuit over a clone prior to the change of license that certainly doesn't mean that they wouldn't try it and my point was the bug fixes made after the change of license could not be applied to the clones (unless written in a different manner which is another potential lawsuit).

Microsoft (and other such companies) spend many millions per year on lawyers and are always in court and quite simply CIYAM does not have the funds to be involved in any lawsuit with the likes of them.

Personally I would hope that the Qora team come up with the funds to retain ownership of the IP if they decide to go down this path.



Agreed If we end up joining the M$ program...then we should crowdfund and pay to join...

I don't know much about Azure, or if I've got my facts straight, but IMO it doesn't seem very expensive to join.

This page says it costs ~$13.392/month to join for the cheapest subscription price, although there is tiered pricing all the way up to ~$725.4/month.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/marketplace/partners/docker/docker-subscription-for-azure/

We should be able to crowdfund enough for the $13.392/month subscription.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 08:29:44 PM
Thank you so much for the chat transcript and explanation!  Having talked with a few people who are familiar with Ethereum and Factom's Azure situation, I would agree the whole deal with copyright has been overblown. I'd also say that I would trust Ethereum devs' evaluation more than NEM at this point.



I talked to fluffypony about it (because Monero was recently added to Azure, so he just went through the process). Here is what he had to say:

Quote
[08:35:48] <jwinterm> fluffypony: what did you have to sign for MS azure integration?
[08:38:26] <jwinterm> It basically consisted of signing a Contributor License Agreement, submitting a PR to the Azure templates Github repo, and sending them a write-up.
[08:39:05] <jwinterm> CLA agreement publicly available?
[08:42:20] <fluffypony> jwinterm: yes, I think
[08:42:27] <fluffypony> https://cla.azure.com has it, I think
[08:42:38] <grubles> azure integration?
[08:43:06] <fluffypony> grubles: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-update-7/
[08:43:14] <othe> jwinterm on azure? pump pump
[08:43:27] <jwinterm> just curious
[08:43:35] <jwinterm> ciyam is on the qora thread talking about MS getting IP rights
[08:43:48] <grubles> fluffypony: oh nice!
[08:43:51] <jwinterm> about how if qora gets on ms azure then ms will own all IP related to qora
[08:44:20] <fluffypony> the license only covers the code you submit to the Azure Github repo
[08:44:34] <fluffypony> for obvious reasons you have to sign that before they'll merge it
[08:44:48] <fluffypony> so it's just the install script and a README, in our case
[08:45:02] <fluffypony> but literally anyone can submit the PR and sign the CLA
[08:45:08] <fluffypony> I can go and put Qora on there and he can't stop me

[08:45:14] <othe> yeah one person did that for 5 coins...
[08:45:26] <jwinterm> anyway, thanks for explanation
[08:46:08] <grubles> is bitcoin on azure?
[08:46:16] <lsd25> Heyyyyyy :)
[08:46:20] <grubles> i can't find any info
[08:46:21] <jwinterm> I don't think so, maybe bitpay, grubles
[08:46:34] <moneromooo> That site seems to want my github password before it lets me see anything... Fishy.
[08:46:46] <fluffypony> http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf
[08:46:47] <fluffypony> foudn it
[08:46:47] <othe> no but u can just make your own template for that, its basically just a shell script that runs on the first start
[08:46:48] <fluffypony> *found
[08:47:11] <fluffypony> it only covers the contribution you make to their Github repo
[08:47:25] <grubles> othe: similar to user data for AWS?

Relevant portion of conversation bolded. So, the only code that you are giving over to MS is the install script that will go on their github repo. I hope this clears up any confusion about whether MS would have any claim on any Qora copyrights or other IP.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 08:38:03 PM
In case anyone wishes to monitor the progress of "Azure poll", you can find the poll here: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

As it currently stands, it's 70.76% vs 29.24% in favor of signing on to the Azure BaaS program.

As it's a community decision that will affect Qora's future, I'd urge every stakeholder to withdraw your qora from the exchanges and participate in the vote.  

Thanks everyone for your participation.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: x13 on April 04, 2016, 08:49:03 PM
Aha, and what makes you sure? As far as I can see, the current poll is going to a different direction. Most are voting for joining Azure platform.

I would hope that if Qora decides to go down the path of giving up its rights to Microsoft that they first remove AT from the software as I will never agree for Microsoft to have any IP rights of AT (which was invented by myself and coded entirely by CIYAM Developers).

So to be clear - there will be no assistance for the AT code in Qora from the CIYAM Developers once any such change of software license has occurred.


Don't be worry, qora won't join MIcrosoft.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 04, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
Aha, and what makes you sure? As far as I can see, the current poll is going to a different direction. Most are voting for joining Azure platform.

I would hope that if Qora decides to go down the path of giving up its rights to Microsoft that they first remove AT from the software as I will never agree for Microsoft to have any IP rights of AT (which was invented by myself and coded entirely by CIYAM Developers).

So to be clear - there will be no assistance for the AT code in Qora from the CIYAM Developers once any such change of software license has occurred.


Don't be worry, qora won't join MIcrosoft.

If only YOU would change your vote the poll would give a different picture! ;) What makes you NOW sure a YES is the best for Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 04, 2016, 10:24:26 PM
To Qora Community: I'd highly encourage everyone to read today's news article "Microsoft, Major Banks Strike Blockchain Deal" featured on CNBC, a major US-based news outlet:

In case you haven't read today's news, Ethereum and Ripple were featured in a news article on CNBC (a major news outlet in the USA) because they were part of MS Azure BaaS program. The news article was featured on the front page of the CNBC for most of the day.

You can read about the news report here:

Microsoft, Major Banks Strike Blockchain Deal
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/04/microsoft-major-banks-strike-blockchain-deal.html


Please pay attention to the last paragraph:

Quote
R3 and its members will have access to Microsoft's blockchain partners which includes the likes of start-ups Ethereum and Ripple. .

As I mentioned in my post, we will be able to reach major corporations, banks, and other institutional players by getting on Azure. Also, by getting on Azure, we will have a lot more chance to get picked up by major news outlets like CNBC and get the press time and recognition we deserve.

Having said that, I recognize this is a decision that must be made by the entire community because this move will affect the value of all your investment. Therefore, I'd like to take this opportunity and urge everyone to withdraw your Qora from the exchanges and participate in the vote.

You can participate in the poll by casting your vote via the decentralized voting system in Qora client (Voting tab), and you can monitor the progress of the poll here: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

As mentioned previously, the poll will run for 2 weeks and close on 15th of April. You, as a Qora holder, now have a chance to direct the destiny of Qora, so please vote confidently. :) Happy voting, everyone!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Nxtblg on April 04, 2016, 11:32:57 PM
To Qora Community: I'd highly encourage everyone to read today's news article "Microsoft, Major Banks Strike Blockchain Deal" featured on CNBC, a major US-based news outlet:

Jeez Louise...Marc Andreessen was right when he predicted that crptocurrency - "blockchain" - would become mainstreamed like the Internet in the 1990s.

There's even the same transformation from a proper noun to a buzzword, just like the answer-gal's use of "Internet" in that 1994 Today show segment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAV2Gjkhztg


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MadCow on April 05, 2016, 12:53:32 AM

As I mentioned in my post, we will be able to reach major corporations, banks, and other institutional players by getting on Azure. Also, by getting on Azure, we will have a lot more chance to get picked up by major news outlets like CNBC and get the press time and recognition we deserve.

Having said that, I recognize this is a decision that must be made by the entire community because this move will affect the value of all your investment. Therefore, I'd like to take this opportunity and urge everyone to withdraw your Qora from the exchanges and participate in the vote.

You can participate in the poll by casting your vote via the decentralized voting system in Qora client (Voting tab), and you can monitor the progress of the poll here: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

As mentioned previously, the poll will run for 2 weeks and close on 15th of April. You, as a Qora holder, now have a chance to direct the destiny of Qora, so please vote confidently. :) Happy voting, everyone!

It's so great the Qora coin holders have the chance to vote on this MAJOR issue. Ask yourself this, if Qora gets into 'bed' with MS & Azure, do you think Microsoft will let us 'vote' on other important issues? NO, of course not, they will want to control things their way, and in any disputes they'll bully Qora community into getting whatever they want.

Microsoft does not care about decentralisation, so vote NO, and keep Qora independent!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 01:03:49 AM

As I mentioned in my post, we will be able to reach major corporations, banks, and other institutional players by getting on Azure. Also, by getting on Azure, we will have a lot more chance to get picked up by major news outlets like CNBC and get the press time and recognition we deserve.

Having said that, I recognize this is a decision that must be made by the entire community because this move will affect the value of all your investment. Therefore, I'd like to take this opportunity and urge everyone to withdraw your Qora from the exchanges and participate in the vote.

You can participate in the poll by casting your vote via the decentralized voting system in Qora client (Voting tab), and you can monitor the progress of the poll here: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

As mentioned previously, the poll will run for 2 weeks and close on 15th of April. You, as a Qora holder, now have a chance to direct the destiny of Qora, so please vote confidently. :) Happy voting, everyone!

It's so great the Qora coin holders have the chance to vote on this MAJOR issue. Ask yourself this, if Qora gets into 'bed' with MS & Azure, do you think Microsoft will let us 'vote' on other important issues? NO, of course not, they will want to control things their way, and in any disputes they'll bully Qora community into getting whatever they want.

Microsoft does not care about decentralisation, so vote NO, and keep Qora independent!

What the everloving fuck are you talking about? What's with all the fear-mongering and tinfoil hat talk about M$ taking over Qora and controlling future development? First off, Microsoft doesn't give one or two shits about Qora. Second, there is absolutely no control handed over to Microsoft for getting Qora added as a BaaS; they get rights over what you put on their github repo and servers, i.e. a script that sets up Qora and starts syncing the blockchain. Third, if you're going to make outrageous claims, at least provide some evidence; all the people on this thread shouting about turning control over to Microsoft have supplied exactly zero relevant links backing up their (outrageous) claims of Microsoft pursuing control or adversarial legal action against Qora.

I'm not a big fan of Microsoft, and I don't care one way or another whether Qora gets added to the Azure BaaS system, but can you guys with the crazy conspiracy theories provide a little bit of evidence as to what the fuck you're actually concerned about?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: elevenbill on April 05, 2016, 01:58:31 AM
@jwinterm  It's a concern about IP ownership if you missed the previous posts.  There is also no evidence to the contrary.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on April 05, 2016, 02:08:46 AM
yes 64.66%
No  35.33%


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 05, 2016, 02:12:58 AM
Jeez Louise...Marc Andreessen was right when he predicted that crptocurrency - "blockchain" - would become mainstreamed like the Internet in the 1990s.

Guys,

As Nxtblg has already stated, "going mainstream" and "getting mainstream recognition" are the keywords here. It's my personal belief that we're at a stage of development when "not joining the big players means we'll be left behind and late to the game."

As for all the copyright, future-of-development issues, I'm leaning towards what jwinterm has said: all those talks of Microsoft taking control of Qora is a non-issue and not credible. If Microsoft really wants to "steal" Qora technologies (think of all those Linux clones), they can simply create a derivative coin based on Qora (Qora clone) and start from scratch. If big-name Cryptos like Ethereum, Ripple, Bitshare, and Monero have all decided to join, why shouldn't we?  :D We'd want to be on the same level playing field, aren't we?

Ask yourself this: Do we have a larger user base than those coins or a larger market cap? The answer is definitely NO.  :) That's why we want to take advantage of Microsoft's intiative and reach a wider audience that we will otherwise not be able to reach as a small-time Crypto project. That's how we take Qora to the next level: we need the publicity and free press that come with being certified.

So far, I haven't seen any concrete evidence that would suggest Microsoft's aim is to entrap, take control, and direct future development of any Crypto project. I personally believe that their main goal is to jumpstart their "BlockChain Marketplace" and become the market leader in Blockchain-related technologies.

In this case, we should go with the "flow" rather than fight the "trend."

This is my opinion on this matter. Thank you!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 02:32:00 AM
@jwinterm  It's a concern about IP ownership if you missed the previous posts.  There is also no evidence to the contrary.

Look on the previous page or two of this thread. There's no evidence that Microsoft is trying to acquire IP ownership and plenty of evidence to the contrary. In fact, I posted the actual contributor license agreement if you'd care to take a look at the actual agreement rather than just listen to random internet people spew conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: elevenbill on April 05, 2016, 02:47:06 AM
fair enough

FWIW - I voted no.  Tech development on the coin must continue.  Qora will need CIYAM backing if we want long term potential.  MS Azure equates to a pump and dump IMO.  It will shift the focus from coin development to marketing.  It will only work in the short term.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CoinJuggler on April 05, 2016, 03:18:12 AM
I agree with Goldenknight.

 We are better off riding than we are smashing this big wave. I also think the Microsoft tin hat stuff is way off base. These are the markets that crypto have made -- not the other way around.

This is free publicity in a big market, you could come out with a statement declaring your own direction and if they end up dropping you whatever, people will dig that publicity too.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on April 05, 2016, 03:53:40 AM
@jwinterm  It's a concern about IP ownership if you missed the previous posts.  There is also no evidence to the contrary.

For one, I haven't made up my mind yet since I have lots of time to still reflect upon this issue which from current discussion prove to be quite important. I would like an expert law interpreter (specifically in this particular field) to shed more light on what the interpretation of terms concretely would most likely boil down to and then I can make a much better informed decision as to yah  or nah.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 04:30:43 AM
For one, I haven't made up my mind yet since I have lots of time to still reflect upon this issue which from current discussion prove to be quite important. I would like an expert law interpreter (specifically in this particular field) to shed more light on what the interpretation of terms concretely would most likely boil down to and then I can make a much better informed decision as to yah  or nah.

Exactly what I want - but unfortunately we have a community that seemingly can't even raise enough funds for that so they rely upon stuff posted in IRC as their proof that Microsoft (who are well known to be against open source) are not going to be any threat.

You do notice that Bitcoin is not on Azure do you not?

Anyway - as stated previously if Qora goes down this path then CIYAM and Qora will be parting ways.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 04:46:45 AM
For one, I haven't made up my mind yet since I have lots of time to still reflect upon this issue which from current discussion prove to be quite important. I would like an expert law interpreter (specifically in this particular field) to shed more light on what the interpretation of terms concretely would most likely boil down to and then I can make a much better informed decision as to yah  or nah.

Exactly what I want - but unfortunately we have a community that seemingly can't even raise enough funds for that so they rely upon stuff posted in IRC as their proof that Microsoft (who are well known to be against open source) are not going to be any threat.

You do notice that Bitcoin is not on Azure do you not?

Anyway - as stated previously if Qora goes down this path then CIYAM and Qora will be parting ways.


Bitcoin is on Azure, fyi:
https://blog.bitpay.com/bitcore-for-microsoft-azure/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 04:48:59 AM
Bitcoin is on Azure, fyi:
https://blog.bitpay.com/bitcore-for-microsoft-azure/

That is not Bitcoin - that is BitPay's Bitcore (please check the content of your link before typing next time unless it is your intention to mislead of course).

It's strange that suddenly this topic is starting to become "trollish" with a lot of MS supporters now appearing.

I do hope that the original dev is noticing this and what is happening to Qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 04:53:02 AM
Bitcoin is on Azure, fyi:
https://blog.bitpay.com/bitcore-for-microsoft-azure/

That is not Bitcoin - that is BitPay's Bitcore (please check the content of your link before typing next time unless it is your intention to mislead of course).

It's strange that suddenly this topic is starting to become "trollish" with a lot of MS supporters now appearing.

I do hope that the original dev is noticing this and what is happening to Qora.


What part of "Run A Full Bitcoin Node in the Cloud" isn't Bitcoin? It's not Bitcoin-Qt/Core, but it's certainly Bitcoin. It's strange being called a troll for bringing facts to the discussion rather than wild conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 04:54:23 AM
What part of "Run A Full Bitcoin Node in the Cloud" isn't Bitcoin? It's not Bitcoin-Qt/Core, but it's certainly Bitcoin. It's strange being called a troll for bringing facts to the discussion rather than wild conspiracy theories.

It is not Bitcoin software (which is written in C++)  it is node.js software (written in Javascript) and if you don't know the difference then that just shows the sort of problem that we have here.

That MS is against open source software is no conspiracy theory.

http://techrights.org/2010/09/17/microsoft-management-mocks-open-source/

If you're so confident that Azure will pose no threat then please hire a law firm to check into it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 04:59:12 AM
What part of "Run A Full Bitcoin Node in the Cloud" isn't Bitcoin? It's not Bitcoin-Qt/Core, but it's certainly Bitcoin. It's strange being called a troll for bringing facts to the discussion rather than wild conspiracy theories.

It is not Bitcoin software (which is written in C++)  it is node.js software and if you don't know the difference then that just shows the sort of problem that we have here.

That MS is against open source software is no conspiracy theory.


Why is Bitcoin C++? Btcd written in Go isn't Bitcoin? Bitcoinj in Java not Bitcoin either? Bitcoin is a protocol that can be implemented in any language. Is Qora not real cryptocurrency because it's implemented in Java? Bitcore is a full node that syncs the entire blockchain:
Quote
Prerequisites
Node.js v0.12
~100GB of disk storage
~4GB of RAM
Saying that it's not Bitcoin is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 05:00:27 AM
Why is Bitcoin C++? Btcd written in Go isn't Bitcoin? Bitcoinj in Java not Bitcoin either? Bitcoin is a protocol that can be implemented in any language.

You are showing your ignorance now - this is not true as only the libconsensus code can be used to mine Bitcoin (without risk of forking) and that code only exists in C++.

Other implementations can be used for wallets and for blockchain explorers, etc. but not for mining Bitcoin (so such other implementations are *not Bitcoin* in any true sense).

It is becoming very clear that you have an agenda if you keep on insisting that Bitcoin wallet software is the same thing as Bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 05:05:51 AM
Why is Bitcoin C++? Btcd written in Go isn't Bitcoin? Bitcoinj in Java not Bitcoin either? Bitcoin is a protocol that can be implemented in any language.

You are showing your ignorance now - this is not true as only the libconsensus code can be used to mine Bitcoin (without risk of forking) and that code only exists in C++.

Other implementations can be used for wallets and for blockchain explorers, etc. but not for mining Bitcoin (so such other implementations are *not Bitcoin* in any true sense).

It is becoming very clear that you have an agenda if you keep on insisting that Bitcoin wallet software is the same thing as Bitcoin itself.


Yea, this seems extremely relevant, since I'm sure there's going to be lots of people setting up nodes to mine on Azure...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yubsep on April 05, 2016, 05:05:59 AM
I am one of biggest fan with #QORA coin...
I bought #QORA when the price was 11 Satoshi...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 05:08:14 AM
I would ask that Qora please remove AT from the coin before going to the Azure platform.

Note that the copyright to AT is clearly marked as CIYAM Developers and we will not be signing anything to ever change that (and we'll be providing no further support to Qora should the project decide to proceed without retaining full rights to the IP).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on April 05, 2016, 06:08:04 AM
I am one of biggest fan with #QORA coin...
I bought #QORA when the price was 11 Satoshi...

yubsep you're lucky indeed to have bought at 11 sat but I am luckier than you to have bought at 3 sat... :P


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yubsep on April 05, 2016, 10:01:20 AM
Really !! :D You are very lucky...

yubsep you're lucky indeed to have bought at 11 sat but I am luckier than you to have bought at 3 sat... :P


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MadCow on April 05, 2016, 10:26:17 AM

As I mentioned in my post, we will be able to reach major corporations, banks, and other institutional players by getting on Azure. Also, by getting on Azure, we will have a lot more chance to get picked up by major news outlets like CNBC and get the press time and recognition we deserve.

Having said that, I recognize this is a decision that must be made by the entire community because this move will affect the value of all your investment. Therefore, I'd like to take this opportunity and urge everyone to withdraw your Qora from the exchanges and participate in the vote.

You can participate in the poll by casting your vote via the decentralized voting system in Qora client (Voting tab), and you can monitor the progress of the poll here: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?poll=%20do%20you%20want%20qora%20to%20join%20microsoft%20azure%20baas%3F

As mentioned previously, the poll will run for 2 weeks and close on 15th of April. You, as a Qora holder, now have a chance to direct the destiny of Qora, so please vote confidently. :) Happy voting, everyone!

It's so great the Qora coin holders have the chance to vote on this MAJOR issue. Ask yourself this, if Qora gets into 'bed' with MS & Azure, do you think Microsoft will let us 'vote' on other important issues? NO, of course not, they will want to control things their way, and in any disputes they'll bully Qora community into getting whatever they want.

Microsoft does not care about decentralisation, so vote NO, and keep Qora independent!

What the everloving fuck are you talking about? What's with all the fear-mongering and tinfoil hat talk about M$ taking over Qora and controlling future development? First off, Microsoft doesn't give one or two shits about Qora. Second, there is absolutely no control handed over to Microsoft for getting Qora added as a BaaS; they get rights over what you put on their github repo and servers, i.e. a script that sets up Qora and starts syncing the blockchain. Third, if you're going to make outrageous claims, at least provide some evidence; all the people on this thread shouting about turning control over to Microsoft have supplied exactly zero relevant links backing up their (outrageous) claims of Microsoft pursuing control or adversarial legal action against Qora.

I'm not a big fan of Microsoft, and I don't care one way or another whether Qora gets added to the Azure BaaS system, but can you guys with the crazy conspiracy theories provide a little bit of evidence as to what the fuck you're actually concerned about?

Sorry you think my doubts about Microsoft's intentions towards Azure and crypto currencies is fear-mongering. I'll plead guilt to 'doubt-mongering' though, and those doubts make me vote NO. I can see the attraction of being on Azure, but if every other coin is doing it, isn't the fact that Qora isn't a good marketing tactic? Qora is the 'independent' coin, beholden to nobody but the coin holders and users.

I also believe CIYAM's  development of AT has kept this project on life support long enough for us to be even having this discussion at all. Without CIYAM's involvement I think we'll likely be heading back to crypto obscurity, just at the moment we're finally getting some momentum. If CIYAM was for for Azure then maybe I would think otherwise, but he obviously thinks something similar to myself.

So ... make the case why Qora without CIYAM on Azure is better than what we have now? We're doing OK now, so why the rush? What are the alternatives to Azure we can consider? Is there an option for another independent provider to provide similar services? MS did start in a garage after all, are young turks with big dreams still working in garages in 2016? I'd prefer to be working with Bill Gates circa mid 70's to what he became in later years.


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Post by: MadCow on April 05, 2016, 10:45:34 AM
I'm not a big fan of Microsoft, and I don't care one way or another whether Qora gets added to the Azure BaaS system, but can you guys with the crazy conspiracy theories provide a little bit of evidence as to what the fuck you're actually concerned about?

I'm concerned Azure is a tactic of MS to centralize the diverse crypto infrastructure we have now into a mega server farm platform they control, similar to what large shopping Malls and giant retailers have done to independent store owners. I see people like Blythe Masters and the big banks trying to do the same basic thing to the whole 'blockchain' concept itself - they want to control things, own things, things that should be open, because openness threatens their monopoly power & profits. They don't care about anything but profits, but what we have with decentralization can make a big difference in the world. These are the type of people who want to patent everything they can get their hands on, so they can 'own' basic knowledge and make $$. I hate that!


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Post by: tobsnn on April 05, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
Really !! :D You are very lucky...

yubsep you're lucky indeed to have bought at 11 sat but I am luckier than you to have bought at 3 sat... :P

Holy moly


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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
I'm not a big fan of Microsoft, and I don't care one way or another whether Qora gets added to the Azure BaaS system, but can you guys with the crazy conspiracy theories provide a little bit of evidence as to what the fuck you're actually concerned about?

I'm concerned Azure is a tactic of MS to centralize the diverse crypto infrastructure we have now into a mega server farm platform they control, similar to what large shopping Malls and giant retailers have done to independent store owners. I see people like Blythe Masters and the big banks trying to do the same basic thing to the whole 'blockchain' concept itself - they want to control things, own things, things that should be open, because openness threatens their monopoly power & profits. They don't care about anything but profits, but what we have with decentralization can make a big difference in the world. These are the type of people who want to patent everything they can get their hands on, so they can 'own' basic knowledge and make $$. I hate that!

Look, I'm not trying to troll the thread, and as I said before I don't care if Qora is added or not, but you didn't provide any evidence that MS will have or want any control over Qora, not even a little bit. Just more speculation, that in my mind sounds like some tinfoil hat type of speculation. People already run nodes on Azure, Amazon, Google, etc. The only thing this does is add an install script so you can start up an instance with Qora already installed and syncing the blockchain immediately.


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Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 01:08:17 PM
There is a legal document that talks about IP rights is there not (a license)?

Yet you don't seem to want any lawyer to look at it to determine if there could be any problem (that is rather suspicious in my mind). Instead you'd rather just go ahead and sign the agreement because you read some non-lawyer on IRC say "it'll be fine".

Microsoft are not a charity so why do you think they are doing this?

If you worked for Netscape then I think you'd have a very different opinion about Microsoft (and for that shit alone I would never, ever co-operate with such a despicable company).

Decentralisation is not helped at all by such cloud services as they can be shut down (every single node) with a single phone call.

This is about control and keeping it out of the hands of greedy corporations.


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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 01:21:16 PM
There is a legal document that talks about IP rights is there not (a license)?

Yet you don't seem to want any lawyer to look at it to determine if there could be any problem (that is rather suspicious in my mind). Instead you'd rather just go ahead and sign the agreement because you read some non-lawyer on IRC say "it'll be fine".

Microsoft are not a charity so why do you think they are doing this?

If you worked for Netscape then I think you'd have a very different opinion about Microsoft (and for that shit alone I would never, ever co-operate with such a despicable company).

Decentralisation is not helped at all by such cloud services as they can be shut down (every single node) with a single phone call.

This is about control and keeping it out of the hands of greedy corporations.


I posted the document that the submitter has to sign ( http://windowsazure.github.io/docs/Contribution%20License%20Agreement.pdf ). It's only two pages. Here are some relevant excerpts:

Quote
1. Definitions.
“Code” means the computer software code, whether in human-readable or machine-executable form, that is delivered by You to Microsoft under this Agreement.

...

4. Licenses.
a. Copyright License. You grant Microsoft, and those who receive the Code directly or indirectly from Microsoft, a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, irrevocable license in the Submission to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, and distribute the Submission and such derivative works, and to sublicense any or all of the foregoing rights to third parties.
b. Patent License. You grant Microsoft, and those who receive the Code directly or indirectly from Microsoft, a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, irrevocable license under your patent claims that directly read on the Code to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell and import or otherwise dispose of the Code.

That sounds scary, I guess, but as I also wrote several times (after speaking with people who have gone through this process), you don't submit any code to them that is in the actual github repo (even though there is nothing they could do to change the MIT license, but this is beside the point); all you submit is an install script that calls wget or git clone. That is the the code "that is delivered by You to Microsoft under this Agreement", you don't submit the entire repo, just an install script, so the only code Microsoft is saying they have copyright and patent licensing over is the install script. Please feel free to continue with your insane ramblings at this time...


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Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 01:26:45 PM
Please feel free to continue with your insane ramblings at this time...

If Qora was not rescued by @Vrontis and the CIYAM Developers we wouldn't even be having this discussion (the coin would have already died).

So if you want to start calling me names then don't be surprised if I simply decide to no longer care about the project (insulting the people that made you money is not generally considered a wise move).

As soon as the public realise that the AT support has gone then Qora will die - so better do your pump and dump quickly.

If you didn't realise it I own *zero* QORA and so I simply would not be affected if its value went to zero.


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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
Please feel free to continue with your insane ramblings at this time...

If Qora was not rescued by @Vrontis and the CIYAM Developers we wouldn't even be having this discussion (the coin would have already died).

So if you want to start calling me names then don't be surprised if I simply decide to no longer care about the project (insulting the people that made you money is not generally considered a wise move).

As soon as the public realise that the AT support has gone then Qora will die - so better do your pump and dump quickly.

If you didn't realise it I own *zero* QORA and so I simply would not be affected if its value went to zero.


I didn't call you names. I only added the insane ramblings bit because you were subtly accusing me of working for Microsoft, which is, frankly, insane. I don't care what you've done for Qora, I don't care if you continue, and I also don't hold very much Qora, it just bugs me to see people continually regurgitating outlandish theories in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Edit:
Here's the template you fill out and submit to them:
https://github.com/Azure/azure-blockchain-projects/tree/master/baas-template
This is all the code that you send, plus a readme file.

Here's the bitshares repo:
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/master/bitshares-ubuntu-vm
I'm sure Dan and Stan were happy to sign away all their rights to bitshares, right?


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Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 01:38:56 PM
I think you should watch the documentary about what Microsoft did to Netscape before you post anything else (maybe that was before you were born?).

Microsoft have always been anti-open source and have always used copyright and patents as their main "weapon" of choice (as do other such corporations).

To call that "insane ramblings" just shows your incredible amount of ignorance and/or naivety.

Bitshares is a get rich quick scheme (as are most of the other projects in this area unfortunately) so that doesn't make a good example at all.

If you're not trying to "get rich quick" then why on earth are you so supportive of signing up with Microsoft?


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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
I think you should watch the documentary about what Microsoft did to Netscape before you post anything else (maybe that was before you were born?).

Microsoft have always been anti-open source and have always used copyright and patents as their main "weapon" of choice (as do other such corporations).

To call that "insane ramblings" just shows your incredible amount of ignorance and/or naivety.


You're willfully ignoring the fact that the only code you submit to them, and thus the only code that is covered by the two page license agreement, is modifying a json template and adding a readme. I added the template and a bitshares example above.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 01:45:35 PM
You're willfully ignoring the fact that the only code you submit to them, and thus the only code that is covered by the two page license agreement, is modifying a json template and adding a readme. I added the template and a bitshares example above.

Again - just because Bitshares does something doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.

BTW - if you have hardly any Qora and you don't give a fuck - why are you still posting?

(odd behaviour to say the least)


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Post by: eli_lyd1 on April 05, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
You're willfully ignoring the fact that the only code you submit to them, and thus the only code that is covered by the two page license agreement, is modifying a json template and adding a readme. I added the template and a bitshares example above.

Again - just because Bitshares does something doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.

BTW - if you have hardly any Qora and you don't give a fuck - why are you still posting?

Yes, I agree. If the qora community keep support add qora to MS, I will stop support the qora-wallet. I am the author of https://github.com/soliury/qora-wallet


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Post by: kjadB on April 05, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
I vote 'no' to Azure, there's no point, it's not worth the risk IMO


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Post by: wizzardTim on April 05, 2016, 01:53:46 PM
Bter still does not show my old deposit (5million - address http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QNweiL91zLU7v8yw2G3XGkR9pd6zokQTTL) . My balance was transferred yesterday (not by me!) to this address: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB

Is bter working right to all of you?


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Post by: eli_lyd1 on April 05, 2016, 01:54:18 PM
Bter still does not show my old deposit (5million - address http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QNweiL91zLU7v8yw2G3XGkR9pd6zokQTTL) . My balance was transferred yesterday (not by me!) to this address: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB

Is bter working right to all of you?
It works well for me.


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Post by: kjadB on April 05, 2016, 01:56:30 PM
Bter still does not show my old deposit (5million - address http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QNweiL91zLU7v8yw2G3XGkR9pd6zokQTTL) . My balance was transferred yesterday (not by me!) to this address: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB

Is bter working right to all of you?

BTER hasn't worked for me with Qora for months! I think you've lost those coins Tim :(


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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 01:58:35 PM
You're willfully ignoring the fact that the only code you submit to them, and thus the only code that is covered by the two page license agreement, is modifying a json template and adding a readme. I added the template and a bitshares example above.

Again - just because Bitshares does something doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.


I don't understand how you don't understand this, but I'll try one last time. Let's take the Bitshares Azure repo for example:
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/master/bitshares-ubuntu-vm

The only code that the Larimers or someone acting on their behalf submitted was a modified json template file, a readme, and a build_bitshares.sh script, which installs a bunch of dependencies, clones the Bitshares repo, and builds Bitshares from source. They never submitted any actual Bitshares code to get on Azure, it's just a script that clones their repo and builds it from source. The only "code" which the license agreement signatory is giving to Microsoft is the build script. I'm not sure how you can't see that by looking at a short two-page license agreement and an actual example repo. (Besides the fact that the Larimers run their blockchain like a corporation and they probably did run the whole process by a lawyer or a few.)

I'll say it again, I don't care if Qora gets on Azure, I don't think it matters much either way, but the idea that if it does go up on Azure that Microsoft is going to somehow own or exercise control over future development of Qora is just unsupported by reality.


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Post by: wizzardTim on April 05, 2016, 01:59:00 PM
Bter still does not show my old deposit (5million - address http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QNweiL91zLU7v8yw2G3XGkR9pd6zokQTTL) . My balance was transferred yesterday (not by me!) to this address: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB

Is bter working right to all of you?

BTER hasn't worked for me with Qora for months! I think you've lost those coins Tim :(

I was informed from some members that their balances started to show right. Sad that's not the case for me..


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Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 02:00:58 PM
I'll say it again, I don't care if Qora gets on Azure, I don't think it matters much either way, but the idea that if it does go up on Azure that Microsoft is going to somehow own or exercise control over future development of Qora is just unsupported by reality.

And I'll say this just once (as I don't need to repeat myself unlike you).

Why would MS bother to enforce you to make an agreement that just gives them ownership of a README file and an installation script?

And how do you think MS is going to profit from this?
(or do you think they are offering free cloud services from the good of their heart)

And again (this part I will repeat) you say you have virtually no Qora and you don't care - but here you are posting again in support of Azure - why?


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Post by: kjadB on April 05, 2016, 02:04:30 PM
Bter still does not show my old deposit (5million - address http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QNweiL91zLU7v8yw2G3XGkR9pd6zokQTTL) . My balance was transferred yesterday (not by me!) to this address: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB

Is bter working right to all of you?

BTER hasn't worked for me with Qora for months! I think you've lost those coins Tim :(

I was informed from some members that their balances started to show right. Sad that's not the case for me..

I didn't know some people had some joy with BTER finally, I might take a look. Hopefully there's some a delay with your tx


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Post by: wizzardTim on April 05, 2016, 02:06:05 PM
Bter still does not show my old deposit (5million - address http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QNweiL91zLU7v8yw2G3XGkR9pd6zokQTTL) . My balance was transferred yesterday (not by me!) to this address: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?addr=QXNz5kBknsgNYtRKit4jCDNVm7YYoXLZdB

Is bter working right to all of you?

BTER hasn't worked for me with Qora for months! I think you've lost those coins Tim :(

I was informed from some members that their balances started to show right. Sad that's not the case for me..

I didn't know some people had some joy with BTER finally, I might take a look. Hopefully there's some a delay with your tx

That's what I hope..we'll see.




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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 02:14:02 PM
I'll say it again, I don't care if Qora gets on Azure, I don't think it matters much either way, but the idea that if it does go up on Azure that Microsoft is going to somehow own or exercise control over future development of Qora is just unsupported by reality.

And I'll say this just once (as I don't need to repeat myself unlike you).

Why would MS bother to enforce you to make an agreement that just gives them ownership of a README file and an installation script?

And how do you think MS is going to profit from this?
(or do you think they are offering free cloud services from the good of their heart)

And again (this part I will repeat) you say you have virtually no Qora and you don't care - but here you are posting again in support of Azure - why?


I'm not in support of MS or Azure, just supporting facts, logic, and reality. MS bother's to enforce an agreement that gives them ownership of a readme and installation script because you are storing those files on their github repo, so I'm guessing if the installation script did something malicious or unintended, that would give them complete freedom to modify or delete the script.


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Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 02:16:08 PM
Let me be totally clear - I do not sign agreements with corporations like Microsoft.

They are the past and we are the future.

We do not need their cloud services and they do not help with decentralisation (the entire point of blockchain systems).

Why someone who claims to have very little Qora and doesn't care just keeps on posting about supporting MS Azure is amazing if there isn't actually some other reason (such as being paid to post by Microsoft to do so).


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Post by: kjadB on April 05, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
I'm not in support of MS or Azure, just supporting facts, logic, and reality. MS bother's to enforce an agreement that gives them ownership of a readme and installation script because you are storing those files on their github repo, so I'm guessing if the installation script did something malicious or unintended, that would give them complete freedom to modify or delete the script.

azure is a honey trap, once a coin is in, how do they get out, once they''re users are depending on azure for business operations? That's when MS starts squeezing people's cobblers with rule changes and whatnot. The initial agreement might look reasonable, but what about any changes in the future? MS has so much form killing opposition only a fool doesn't see what they're doing here


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Post by: xyz on April 05, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
I don't know what is the best for Qora...
But I know that we should find an agreement what is for all acceptable! Discussion is good, but if the discussion get out of control (if people are no more friendly) then this is bad for all of us!!!!
I have seen that @CIYAM have done a very good job for Qora (so I mean his opinion is very important for our community) and I don't love all big players (like microsoft) because as larger somebody is as more he want to make all rules for all things - therefor I would stay away from Azure...
On the other hand @jwinterm has arguments and he is trying to give us HIS opinion. Maybe he is right to play with the big people as much as necessary... But the problem is nobody knows what the the future will bring  - it can be that we are today unable to see, what Azure or microsoft can do to our Qora!

Please to all, can we think a little bit longer? Can we watch what is happening to the other coins in azure and then maybe in some month we can speak again about joining or not!?


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Post by: 4emily on April 05, 2016, 03:15:37 PM
I don't know what is the best for Qora...
But I know that we should find an agreement what is for all acceptable! Discussion is good, but if the discussion get out of control (if people are no more friendly) then this is bad for all of us!!!!
I have seen that @CIYAM have done a very good job for Qora (so I mean his opinion is very important for our community) and I don't love all big players (like microsoft) because as larger somebody is as more he want to make all rules for all things - therefor I would stay away from Azure...
On the other hand @jwinterm has arguments and he is trying to give us HIS opinion. Maybe he is right to play with the big people as much as necessary... But the problem is nobody knows what the the future will bring  - it can be that we are today unable to see, what Azure or microsoft can do to our Qora!

Please to all, can we think a little bit longer? Can we watch what is happening to the other coins in azure and then maybe in some month we can speak again about joining or not!?

Agreed: in the circumstances, wait and see would seem to be the wiser course

Moreover, CIYAM has made his position very clear which is another reason why I've voted no.


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Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 03:32:34 PM
I don't know what is the best for Qora...
But I know that we should find an agreement what is for all acceptable! Discussion is good, but if the discussion get out of control (if people are no more friendly) then this is bad for all of us!!!!
I have seen that @CIYAM have done a very good job for Qora (so I mean his opinion is very important for our community) and I don't love all big players (like microsoft) because as larger somebody is as more he want to make all rules for all things - therefor I would stay away from Azure...
On the other hand @jwinterm has arguments and he is trying to give us HIS opinion. Maybe he is right to play with the big people as much as necessary... But the problem is nobody knows what the the future will bring  - it can be that we are today unable to see, what Azure or microsoft can do to our Qora!

Please to all, can we think a little bit longer? Can we watch what is happening to the other coins in azure and then maybe in some month we can speak again about joining or not!?

Agreement is wholly irrelevant. Every Qora developer, every person on this thread, and every person who owns a single Qora could all agree that Qora should not be on Azure, and it wouldn't matter - anyone with a Github account and enough knowledge to get Qora running on a Linux machine can make the pull request to Azure's Github account with an install script and a readme, sign the agreement themselves, and then Qora will be on Azure.


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Post by: xyz on April 05, 2016, 03:42:35 PM
I don't know what is the best for Qora...
But I know that we should find an agreement what is for all acceptable! Discussion is good, but if the discussion get out of control (if people are no more friendly) then this is bad for all of us!!!!
I have seen that @CIYAM have done a very good job for Qora (so I mean his opinion is very important for our community) and I don't love all big players (like microsoft) because as larger somebody is as more he want to make all rules for all things - therefor I would stay away from Azure...
On the other hand @jwinterm has arguments and he is trying to give us HIS opinion. Maybe he is right to play with the big people as much as necessary... But the problem is nobody knows what the the future will bring  - it can be that we are today unable to see, what Azure or microsoft can do to our Qora!

Please to all, can we think a little bit longer? Can we watch what is happening to the other coins in azure and then maybe in some month we can speak again about joining or not!?

Agreement is wholly irrelevant. Every Qora developer, every person on this thread, and every person who owns a single Qora could all agree that Qora should not be on Azure, and it wouldn't matter - anyone with a Github account and enough knowledge to get Qora running on a Linux machine can make the pull request to Azure's Github account with an install script and a readme, sign the agreement themselves, and then Qora will be on Azure.

I don't know what you are trying to tell me... But I know I love Qora a long time and I will stay as long as I feel good with this coin. If things are changed in a matter I don't love I sell all my Qora and stay away.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 03:42:52 PM
Agreement is wholly irrelevant. Every Qora developer, every person on this thread, and every person who owns a single Qora could all agree that Qora should not be on Azure, and it wouldn't matter - anyone with a Github account and enough knowledge to get Qora running on a Linux machine can make the pull request to Azure's Github account with an install script and a readme, sign the agreement themselves, and then Qora will be on Azure.

So please do that and stop posting here (for someone who supposedly doesn't have hardly any QORA and doesn't care your continued posting makes you look very much like a liar).

I don't think that this community really needs members such as yourself.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 05, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Agreement is wholly irrelevant. Every Qora developer, every person on this thread, and every person who owns a single Qora could all agree that Qora should not be on Azure, and it wouldn't matter - anyone with a Github account and enough knowledge to get Qora running on a Linux machine can make the pull request to Azure's Github account with an install script and a readme, sign the agreement themselves, and then Qora will be on Azure.

So please do that and stop posting here (for someone who supposedly doesn't have hardly any QORA and doesn't care your continued posting makes you look very much like a liar).

I don't think that this community really needs members such as yourself.


I certainly own more Qora than you, since you admit to having zero. If you think I'm off topic or something there's a report button, or this is a self-moderated thread, so you ping the person who started it and ask them to delete my posts. I don't think I care whether or not you think this community needs members such as myself.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 03:49:58 PM
I certainly own more Qora than you, since you admit to having zero.

And any value that they have are mostly due to the CIYAM Developers having added AT to the coin (please try to remember that - and yes you're welcome).

I am not worrying about trying to censure you but am just pointing out that your claims don't add up (you repeatedly have said you have little QORA and you don't care about Azure - but you never stop posting about supporting it - any rational person can see you are being inconsistent).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ashi404 on April 05, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
I'll say it again, I don't care if Qora gets on Azure, I don't think it matters much either way, but the idea that if it does go up on Azure that Microsoft is going to somehow own or exercise control over future development of Qora is just unsupported by reality.

And I'll say this just once (as I don't need to repeat myself unlike you).

Why would MS bother to enforce you to make an agreement that just gives them ownership of a README file and an installation script?

And how do you think MS is going to profit from this?
(or do you think they are offering free cloud services from the good of their heart)

And again (this part I will repeat) you say you have virtually no Qora and you don't care - but here you are posting again in support of Azure - why?


I'm not in support of MS or Azure, just supporting facts, logic, and reality. MS bother's to enforce an agreement that gives them ownership of a readme and installation script because you are storing those files on their github repo, so I'm guessing if the installation script did something malicious or unintended, that would give them complete freedom to modify or delete the script.

Yay! Bter opened qora withdrawal. I have successfully withdrew 4 btc worth of qora from bter just now. Guys hurry up! :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: teletobi on April 05, 2016, 04:24:39 PM
I had a Break in Cryptos for about a Year due to lots of Work. Can someone tell me if this qora is the Coin I had some ORA Assets at nxt AE? I just looked in my nxt Account and saw that I transferred them to NXT-G7QA-2KUA-BLLZ-5FUCY in February last Year. So do I have a Stake here?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: OutLiar on April 05, 2016, 05:13:28 PM
I certainly own more Qora than you, since you admit to having zero.

And any value that they have are mostly due to the CIYAM Developers having added AT to the coin (please try to remember that - and yes you're welcome).

I am not worrying about trying to censure you but am just pointing out that your claims don't add up (you repeatedly have said you have little QORA and you don't care about Azure - but you never stop posting about supporting it - any rational person can see you are being inconsistent).


As a new member to the community I will support the decision of the CIYAM developers on the Azure debate.  I hope that everyone can maintain a long term outlook and focus on building a community where everyone (new and old) are welcomed.

Any value that those coins have may be due to CIYAM Developers, but as a new investor, your attitude is not one that I support.  Regardless of whoever posts whatever, remember these coins have NO value if enough community members walk away.  It's a cyclical thing, not developers at the top, investors at the bottom.  We help get the word out for this coin-- for you, for free so you can continue to do your thing and be ''the future'' and not the past (please try to remember that - and yes you're welcome).

I hope you guys get PR because I will not be sending anyone to this thread until I see more professionalism from developers.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 05, 2016, 05:25:34 PM
I had a Break in Cryptos for about a Year due to lots of Work. Can someone tell me if this qora is the Coin I had some ORA Assets at nxt AE? I just looked in my nxt Account and saw that I transferred them to NXT-G7QA-2KUA-BLLZ-5FUCY in February last Year. So do I have a Stake here?

I think you have no stake in Qora. There was some dude who called himself Kora that was so pissed off that he missed the ICO and felt so sorry for missing out on a stake that he started his own MS currency on the AE. Sorry man. Send me your qora addy and I'll send you a few if you want to stick around.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620518.0



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 05:30:34 PM
Any value that those coins have may be due to CIYAM Developers, but as a new investor, your attitude is not one that I support.

The opinion of a newbie account who has done absolutely nothing doesn't really concern me (you are most likely just a sock-puppet as how would a newbie even know about all of this?).

It's funny how such newbie accounts suddenly appear in huge topics such as this when some controversy has happened (are you going to tell me that you read through this entire topic newbie - and the other Qora topics as well?).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: OutLiar on April 05, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
I do my homework before investing into anything.  I believe in what you guys are working towards.  I don't have to like your attitude for you to make me money.  I just wanted to let you know what it looks like from someone coming in early.

FWIW, I, like you, do not believe it's a good idea join Microsoft in anything.  You have said it better than I, in fact. 

You just come off as a dick.  So did Steve Jobs and he changed the world. 

Thank you for your dedication to the project, I and many others appreciate it.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 05, 2016, 05:43:11 PM
Any value that those coins have may be due to CIYAM Developers, but as a new investor, your attitude is not one that I support.

The opinion of a newbie account who has done absolutely nothing doesn't really concern me (you are most likely just a sock-puppet as how would a newbie even know about all of this?).

It's funny how such newbie accounts suddenly appear in huge topics such as this when some controversy has happened (are you going to tell me that you read through this entire topic newbie - and the other Qora topics as well?).

PLEASE @CIYAM, I like your work and I thought you are a very nice fellow - but it isn't necessary to write such comments! Don't read what you don't like!!!! Or at least don't comment it!
I think every body (too a newbie) have the right to write his opinion).
Let us be a good community!!! With different opinions!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
I do my homework before investing into anything.

Really - so as a newbie who hasn't used the forum for more than a few weeks you have somehow read the entire history of Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 05:47:20 PM
I think every body (too a newbie) have the right to write his opinion).
Let us be a good community!!! With different opinions!

I am fine with him having his opinion and you should be fine with me expressing mine as well thank you.

Also - if not wanting to "get into bed with MS" makes me a "dick" then I am fine with that.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: OutLiar on April 05, 2016, 05:59:29 PM
I do my homework before investing into anything.

Really - so as a newbie who hasn't used the forum for more than a few weeks you have somehow read the entire history of Qora?


I've read through the threads to get an overview of the project has progressed.  I've only recently signed up and begun to participate, typically I lurk.  If you think that I'm some troll account, you're wrong.  I have a significant stake in QORA, so many angles are in play for me when watching you and your team.  Public relations, also known as, likability is a big part of emerging companies.

I don't wish to carry this conversation on any farther as I believe it will end up doing more harm than good for both you and I.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 05, 2016, 06:04:08 PM
I have a significant stake in QORA, so many angles are in play for me when watching you and your team.  Public relations, also known as, likability is a big part of emerging companies.

If you have studied Qora then you should know that I am not a developer (for it) and that CIYAM Developers were only responsible for AT (not the coin itself).

As far as PR goes I don't think that this project has anyone even working on that (and the Burst PR team ended up stealing all the funds so the #1 PR article we should have had about the first ACCT between two blockchains was never even published back when that occurred).

If you'd like to provide some PR then I'd think that would probably be welcomed (and if you have such a stake then surely that is in your interest).

Basically I prefer not to be even publicly involved so if you think I am a problem for PR then that isn't really such a problem (I've only been posting a lot in the last few days because I think the Azure idea is a bad one).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on April 05, 2016, 06:22:58 PM

And any value that they have are mostly due to the CIYAM Developers having added AT to the coin (please try to remember that - and yes you're welcome).



Hmmm....yes, everyone is welcome. Very Good!



 for you, for free so you can continue to do your thing and be ''the future'' and not the past (please try to remember that - and yes you're welcome).



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: teletobi on April 05, 2016, 07:40:43 PM
I had a Break in Cryptos for about a Year due to lots of Work. Can someone tell me if this qora is the Coin I had some ORA Assets at nxt AE? I just looked in my nxt Account and saw that I transferred them to NXT-G7QA-2KUA-BLLZ-5FUCY in February last Year. So do I have a Stake here?

I think you have no stake in Qora. There was some dude who called himself Kora that was so pissed off that he missed the ICO and felt so sorry for missing out on a stake that he started his own MS currency on the AE. Sorry man. Send me your qora addy and I'll send you a few if you want to stick around.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620518.0



Hmm, I haven´t bought this Asset, it was transferred to my Account in August 2014. Do you have a Link to the First Announcement Thread?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: spijker46 on April 05, 2016, 10:41:54 PM
Joined Qora today.. Installed on my windows and linux pc at the moment. Synchronizing right now. Really awesome and interesting :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 05, 2016, 11:54:06 PM
Someone has started a new poll asking if Qora should pay $13 a month to join Azure BaaS, or give Microsoft intellectual property rights to join for free?

CIYAM is happy to continue supporting Qora if we pay to join, thereby retaining all intellectual property rights. I would rather retain his services because I consider his work valuable. NEMcoin chose to pay, and I would be happy to contribute towards a crowdfund for Qora to join.

Rather than argue with each other we should put our money where out mouth is, and vote for whatever we want. Please vote in the new poll.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tobsnn on April 06, 2016, 12:09:29 AM
I do my homework before investing into anything.  I believe in what you guys are working towards.  I don't have to like your attitude for you to make me money.  I just wanted to let you know what it looks like from someone coming in early.

FWIW, I, like you, do not believe it's a good idea join Microsoft in anything.  You have said it better than I, in fact. 

You just come off as a dick.  So did Steve Jobs and he changed the world. 

Thank you for your dedication to the project, I and many others appreciate it.



You have touched my heart


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on April 06, 2016, 04:12:40 AM
I think the Azure idea is a bad one


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 06, 2016, 04:57:16 AM
Can someone explain what exactly they're afraid of with regards to Qora getting on Azure's BaaS template repo? Is the fear really that Microsoft will somehow gain control over the copyrights or other intellectual property? Just that nodes will become centralized on Azure?

Here is the list of templates available:
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates

You'll see among them "ethereum-cpp-on-ubuntu", "bitshares-ubuntu-vm", and "monero-on-ubuntu". It's one thing to think, "OK, ETH, BTS, and XMR probably just overlooked something in the contributor license agreement and now they're gonna get pwned by M$." However, here's a few more templates on the list: "ubuntu-desktop-gnome", "wordpress-mysql-replication", and "mongodb-nodejs-high-availability". Do you really think Ubuntu and Gnome, or Wordpress and Mysql, or Mongodb and Nodejs are going to push their software onto something that will forfeit their intellectual property rights to Microsoft? No, this is ridiculous. The only thing that Microsoft claims any dominion over is the install script, and that's because you're pushing it to their Github repo.

There's been talk of NEM paying some extra fee so they didn't have to sign the agreement; they mention it in this blog post:
https://forum.nem.io/t/status-on-the-azure-project/2017
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Having given it due consideration and thoughts, we have decided that NEM should be independent. Instead, we are proposing to still put it on Azure as a docker but we pay for it. By paying for it, we are assuming to be a customer of MS instead.
However, afaict they don't pay any extra fee and they aren't actually on the BaaS template list. They've forked the template list to their own github repo ( https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement/azure-quickstart-templates ), but they aren't even listed on that one. They link to a quasi-news article in their blog post that is nothing but vague ramblings about how Microsoft is trying to "kneecap" the blockchain industry, but read the comments on their blog post, people are telling them the same thing I've been posting here for the last day or two, for instance:

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Isn't this an overreaction due to a misinterpretation ? My understanding is that the agreement covers the template contributed, not nem software itself.
and
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I don't think you understand the agreement. Anybody can go into github and submit your project to Microsoft, but the only thing that they're giving away is the code it's actually pushed to the MS repository. Not your software.

There's also comments going along with the conspiracy circle-jerk, about how this is going to turn over NEM into the diabolical hands of Microsoft. This is insane. Just remember, "Anybody can go into github and submit your project to Microsoft, but the only thing that they're giving away is the code it's actually pushed to the MS repository. Not your software."

https://i.imgflip.com/12142o.jpg


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 06, 2016, 05:02:29 AM
Firstly, for someone who has stated repeatedly that you have very little QORA and don't care one way or the other, why is it that you keep on posting (more and more text and now with pictures) about this?

Secondly, why don't you explain to us all why Microsoft would offer a free service that would have no possible revenue potential to themselves?

To say you have no agenda or association with Microsoft and hardly anything invested yet repeatedly post to try and push this issue is confusing to say the least (and if you really are just out to "dispel any FUD" then there are at least another hundred or so topics that you should be posting in rather than just this one).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 06, 2016, 05:12:25 AM
Firstly, for someone who has stated repeatedly that you have very little QORA and don't care one way or the other, why is it that you keep on posting (more and more text and now with pictures) about this?

Secondly, why don't you explain to us all why Microsoft would offer a free service that would have no possible revenue potential to themselves?


Sorry, I guess I just can't help myself when I see misinformation and conspiracy theories being bandied about like they were chiseled on stone tablets by Moses himself. Also, why are you bringing up the fact again that I have very little Qora again (for the record I have ~4M Qora) when you state yourself that you have no Qora (despite being paid 50 or 100M Qora to work on AT)?

As for the second question: no possible revenue potential to themselves? You think Azure instances are free? They want people to put templates up so more people will want to and be able to quickly spin up instances to provide backend servers for their services. More people running instances = more money for Microsoft.

You also didn't answer my questions:
Can someone explain what exactly they're afraid of with regards to Qora getting on Azure's BaaS template repo? Is the fear really that Microsoft will somehow gain control over the copyrights or other intellectual property? Just that nodes will become centralized on Azure?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 06, 2016, 05:18:15 AM
For the record I personally was never paid any QORA whatsoever and would appreciate that you don't post incorrect information (funds that were crowdfunded were not ever paid to me nor even under my control).

It is no conspiracy theory about the way that Microsoft has done business for many, many years. Those who worked for Netscape would never forget all losing their jobs because of the illegal (and yes, they were fined for illegal) practices.

Hosting a bunch of nodes under the control of a single organisation is opposite of decentralisation and therefore itself a bad idea.

Trusting that Microsoft doesn't have any ulterior motive is naive at best considering their long track record.

If you can't resist attacking supposed conspiracy theories (and I've offered no such thing) then please go and fight the trolls on this forum spreading misinformation about SegWit (IMO that would actually be a more useful thing you could do with your time).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 06, 2016, 06:38:01 AM
I have been following Qora since it began and remember the original dev had to lock the first thread and start a new moderated one to keep the discussion civil. Perhaps the new Qora team should start a moderated thread.

If jwinterm wants to accuse NEM of making vague ramblings about how Microsoft is trying to "kneecap" the blockchain industry he should do it on the NEM thread. However, the only way to force him to keep this discussion civil is to start a moderated thread.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on April 06, 2016, 12:14:10 PM
Join in haste repent at leisure

Cheers Jon  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 06, 2016, 01:11:51 PM
I think the Azure idea is a bad one

Is Red Hat a better option for Qora?

http://www.coindesk.com/open-source-giant-red-hat-blockchain-initiative/


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vytasz7 on April 06, 2016, 01:50:18 PM
For the record I personally was never paid any QORA whatsoever and would appreciate that you don't post incorrect information (funds that were crowdfunded were not ever paid to me nor even under my control).

It is no conspiracy theory about the way that Microsoft has done business for many, many years. Those who worked for Netscape would never forget all losing their jobs because of the illegal (and yes, they were fined for illegal) practices.

Hosting a bunch of nodes under the control of a single organisation is opposite of decentralisation and therefore itself a bad idea.

Trusting that Microsoft doesn't have any ulterior motive is naive at best considering their long track record.

If you can't resist attacking supposed conspiracy theories (and I've offered no such thing) then please go and fight the trolls on this forum spreading misinformation about SegWit (IMO that would actually be a more useful thing you could do with your time).


So who got 250 million qoras for implementing AT ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 06, 2016, 01:53:45 PM
So who got 250 million qoras for implementing AT ?

All crowdfunding QORA (and BURST) raised for AT was for @vbcs to do as he pleased (my interest in this field is not about making money but about trying to aid in the transformation from centralised to decentralised software which is why I am dead-against centralised cloud computing).

Note that all the coding done in Java has been by @vbcs (as I am a C++ coder and the original AT prototype was coded in C++ well before Qora had shown any interest in it. For that work which included the AT specification I received about 3 BTC in personal donations from memory of which I paid out 2 BTC for some help on an upcoming whitepaper).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 06, 2016, 01:56:21 PM
So who got 250 million qoras for implementing AT ?

All crowdfunding QORA (and BURST) raised for AT was for @vbcs to do as he pleased (my interest in this field is not about making money but about trying to aid in the transformation from centralised to decentralised software which is why I am dead-against centralised cloud computing).

Note that all the coding done in Java has been by @vbcs (as I am a C++ coder).


That's really admirable CIYAM, respect!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 06, 2016, 10:59:34 PM
Hi, everyone!  I have the following announcements to make:

1. ca333, the security expert from Switzerland, will join Qora dev team as a security consultant/core contributor. He had provided code contributions and performed security audits for Qora in the past.  After joining the dev team, he will support Qora development by providing critical security analysis/bug fixes and much needed consultation.

He has my full support and trust, and I have full confidence in his expertise and ability to provide critical analysis.  To get an idea of what kind of work ca333 had been doing in the past, feel free to check out his BTT profile.

2. vbcs and CIYAM will continue to be a part of our Qora dev team.  Everything is cool. Please relax.  :)

So, everyone, let's get back on track and continue with the development!  ;)  Skerberus is currently working on bug fixes in 0.26.  I'll let him make an announcement when it's ready for release.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 07, 2016, 01:42:12 AM
Hi, everyone!  I have the following announcements to make:

1. ca333, the security expert from Switzerland, will join Qora dev team as a security consultant/core contributor. He had provided code contributions and performed security audits for Qora in the past.  After joining the dev team, he will support Qora development by providing critical security analysis/bug fixes and much needed consultation.

He has my full support and trust, and I have full confidence in his expertise and ability to provide critical analysis.  To get an idea of what kind of work ca333 had been doing in the past, feel free to check out his BTT profile.

2. vbcs and CIYAM will continue to be a part of our Qora dev team.  Everything is cool. Please relax.  :)

So, everyone, let's get back on track and continue with the development!  ;)  Skerberus is currently working on bug fixes in 0.26.  I'll let him make an announcement when it's ready for release.  :)

Great news, welcome ca333, and thank you!

Time to buy some more Qora :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 07, 2016, 02:05:09 AM
I have been following Qora since it began and remember the original dev had to lock the first thread and start a new moderated one to keep the discussion civil. Perhaps the new Qora team should start a moderated thread.

In my humble opinion, fostering an environment where debate and dialog can take place is an important part of community-building process.

As a community, we should strive to become a democracy where all sides' arguments can be presented and heard. We should become more tolerant and encourage more members to speak their minds and present their views and arguments. Juding from all the debates and disucssions going on in the past couple days, I'd say we're going the right way.  :)

Personally, I'm very appreciative of everyone's input, regardless of whether I agree with the argument put forth or not. From what I see, jwinterm has been very civil in presenting his view. So I, for one, definitely welcome his participation in our discussion and his decision to take part in our community.  :D

Having said that, I think having a moderated thread will be considered against the spirit of a community project such as Qora. My personal preference is to keep things the way they are right now.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 07, 2016, 02:09:53 AM
I have been following Qora since it began and remember the original dev had to lock the first thread and start a new moderated one to keep the discussion civil. Perhaps the new Qora team should start a moderated thread.

In my humble opinion, fostering an environment where debate and dialog can take place is an important part of community-building process.

As a community, we should strive to become a democracy where all sides' arguments can be presented and heard. We should become more tolerant and encourage more members to speak their minds and present their views and arguments. Juding from all the debates and disucssions going on in the past couple days, I'd say we're going the right way.  :)

Personally, I'm very appreciative of everyone's input, regardless of whether I agree with the argument put forth or not. From what I see, jwinterm has been very civil in presenting his view. So I, for one, definitely welcome his participation in our discussion and his decision to take part in our community.  :D

Having said that, I think having a moderated thread will be considered against the spirit of a community project such as Qora. I prefer to have things as the way they are.

Thank you!

IMO the only moderation should be for obvious FUD with no content ('this coin is a scam' with no details etc) and abuse ('XYZ is a dick' etc).

Robust heated debate with intellectual content is great, passion is good too


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 07, 2016, 02:34:34 AM
IMO the only moderation should be for obvious FUD with no content ('this coin is a scam' with no details etc) and abuse ('XYZ is a dick' etc).

Robust heated debate with intellectual content is great, passion is good too

Yes! I agree wholeheartedly!  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 07, 2016, 03:58:04 AM
('XYZ is a dick' etc).

You do know @xyz is part of the community, right?  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 07, 2016, 04:15:06 AM
('XYZ is a dick' etc).

You do know @xyz is part of the community, right?  ;D

haha, no offence @xyz :)

change that to 'joe sixpack is a dick'


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 07, 2016, 09:34:27 AM
('XYZ is a dick' etc).

You do know @xyz is part of the community, right?  ;D

haha, no offence @xyz :)

change that to 'joe sixpack is a dick'

I have not felt concern. :)
In principle I also have no problem with bad words against me. It is very difficult to offend me because I don't allow anybody to disturb my well-being. In addition, I do not always understand everything ...

I have a few questions:
1. I would very much like to know what our devs think about Azure.

2. Has the departure of 2 members (in the last weeks or month) from the Qora team something to do with different opinions over azure?

3. Has GoldenKnight369 deleted himself his large posting from yesterday?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 07, 2016, 10:41:14 AM
I think we should compromise and pay the $13 a month to get on Azure without signing a license so CIYAM continues to contribute to Qora. If we decide to join Azure we should all vote on whether to join for free, or pay the $13 a month to avoid signing Microsoft licenses here.

I'm no legal expert, but I briefly researched free software licensing and it appears that GNU says Qora's MIT license does not protect users from patent treachery. GNU recommends the Apache 2.0 license since it blocks patent treachery.


http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html

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X11 License (#X11License)

..This license is sometimes called the MIT license, but that term is misleading, since MIT has used many licenses for software.

This is a fine license for a small program. A larger program usually ought to be copyleft; but if you are set on a lax permissive license for one, we recommend the Apache 2.0 license since it protects users from patent treachery.


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Expat License (#Expat)

This is a lax, permissive non-copyleft free software license, compatible with the GNU GPL. It is sometimes ambiguously referred to as the MIT License.

For substantial programs it is better to use the Apache 2.0 license since it blocks patent treachery.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

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Like the BSD license the MIT license does not include an express patent license. Both the BSD and the MIT licenses were drafted before the patentability of software was generally recognized under US law.


I couldn't find any tests of free software licenses in court, the GPL's first big test case against VMware is still ongoing. There don't appear to be any big test cases that set a legal precedent for free software licenses yet.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/01/vmwares_gpl_violation_case_rolls_into_german_court/

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A May resolution is a very optimistic outcome, as the court gave VMware and Hellwig until April 15th to submit further arguments. May 16th has been set as a day for a decision to be delivered, but only if the court feels it has all the information it needs to do so before that date. With the court saying it has only a basic understanding of the issues at stake, quick resolution without recourse to witnesses and experts appears unlikely.


Couldn't we all compromise and pay the $13 a month to get on Azure without having to sign licensing agreements with Microsoft? That way we get the best of both worlds, Qora gets onto Azure, and CIYAM keeps contributing.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 07, 2016, 12:45:08 PM
I think we should compromise and pay the $13 a month to get on Azure without signing a license so CIYAM continues to contribute to Qora. If we decide to join Azure we should all vote on whether to join for free, or pay the $13 a month to avoid signing Microsoft licenses here.
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Couldn't we all compromise and pay the $13 a month to get on Azure without having to sign licensing agreements with Microsoft? That way we get the best of both worlds, Qora gets onto Azure, and CIYAM keeps contributing.

Afaik there is no paying $13 a month to get on Azure without signing licensing agreements. Could you point me to where that is offered on Azure's website? I know some NEM folk have mentioned it, but also afaik NEM isn't on Azure period, paying $13 a month or not.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 07, 2016, 01:48:20 PM
I think we should compromise and pay the $13 a month to get on Azure without signing a license so CIYAM continues to contribute to Qora. If we decide to join Azure we should all vote on whether to join for free, or pay the $13 a month to avoid signing Microsoft licenses here.
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Couldn't we all compromise and pay the $13 a month to get on Azure without having to sign licensing agreements with Microsoft? That way we get the best of both worlds, Qora gets onto Azure, and CIYAM keeps contributing.

Afaik there is no paying $13 a month to get on Azure without signing licensing agreements. Could you point me to where that is offered on Azure's website? I know some NEM folk have mentioned it, but also afaik NEM isn't on Azure period, paying $13 a month or not.


This page says it costs ~$13.392/month to join for the cheapest subscription price, although there is tiered pricing all the way up to ~$725.4/month.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/marketplace/partners/docker/docker-subscription-for-azure/

We could easily crowdfund the $13.392/month subscription.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 07, 2016, 03:19:03 PM
I see, thanks. It's not clear that hosting your own docker is enough to get you listed on Microsoft's blog as a partner or whatever, which quite frankly seems to be the whole point of this exercise - get a little free publicity rather than actually having an easily deployable Azure instance. Did NEM actually do this? It seems they are still mulling it over. Maybe because if they do it this way then there's no free publicity about how they're "partnering with Microsoft" and so it's not even worth the bother?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 07, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
70/30 for no Azure.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Nxtblg on April 07, 2016, 05:10:47 PM
I just saw this in the NEM thread; you guys should read it:

@ Jabo38: Did you receive an answer from Microsoft?


Wasn´t there two Lawyers who should be conferenced with to find out what this Contract actually says?

A professional lawyer has written us back. It is good that we took a moment to hesitate.

He interprets the agreement with a wide scope that throws the burden on the submitter on any IP owned by third parties which is used when the submitter allows the submission to be applied by Microsoft.

This doesn't mean we can't be on the store, but that we should be careful when applying.

So the skeptical majority definitely has a point.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: spijker46 on April 07, 2016, 05:41:26 PM
Perhaps I am missing one important link. Please tell me.. I searched this forum for the answer, but can't find it :(.

A few days ago, i installed the wallet. Everything is synchronized. But when I go to "Accounts" all adresses stay on zero
Generated blocks keeps blanc

I run 0.25.1 version and use it in Linux Ubuntu.

What important link am I missing here ? Anyone? :)

Do I need to register myself somewhere? Is it not possible to use the wallet at the moment?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on April 07, 2016, 06:40:48 PM

A big big thanks to every body involved and taking the time to seriously think over and weigh the odds in this whole voting process. It is quite frankly a liberating process for me since the foundation of this process is intact as it should be. Again, from the very first developer to all further involved developers and to the community as a whole, thank you. Long Live Qora!!  8)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: turkojan on April 07, 2016, 06:40:54 PM
Perhaps I am missing one important link. Please tell me.. I searched this forum for the answer, but can't find it :(.

A few days ago, i installed the wallet. Everything is synchronized. But when I go to "Accounts" all adresses stay on zero
Generated blocks keeps blanc

I run 0.25.1 version and use it in Linux Ubuntu.

What important link am I missing here ? Anyone? :)

Do I need to register myself somewhere? Is it not possible to use the wallet at the moment?

Hi there i had a similar problem another day and i had not found the solutions in anyplace, today i finally found and you can try my solution if you want.

All you have to do is delete your wallet.dat or copy to another place in case of any problem, reinstall qora wallet and when run, the qora wallet is going to ask if you want to create a new wallet or recover the old one, try to recover the old one by tiping your "seed hash" code. this solutions worked for me

sorry my bad english



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: spijker46 on April 07, 2016, 07:27:51 PM
Thanks, but I had to do something different. Its working for me now. I got the answer from here;
https://qoracommunity.slack.com/

What I had to do is to deposit some qora into my wallet. That part I was missing.
Then I had to register a username for the network.

Done that and now I am participating as a peer ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GoldenKnight369 on April 08, 2016, 05:51:58 AM
I have a few questions:

Hi xyz,

In response to your questions:

1. It is my personal belief that going forward, we should do things the "democratic way" in order to encourage members participation, spur discussions, and foster a stronger sense of community.  Since both me and Skerberus had already come out and stated publicly that the team would respect the community's decision, I feel it would be inappropriate for any member of the dev team to make their position known at this point (as not to influence other members' thinking).

If you feel strongly about something, or if you really want something get done so badly, you can certainly lobby for votes and support.  :)  Feel free to use this thread as the forum to sway public opinion and solicit votes.  :)

I'd just like to say that, personally, I really enjoy the discussion that has taken place in the past couple days. I find it both enlightening and refreshing. I think we should do it more often.  ;D

2. If anyone feels that there's any Qora-related issue we should discuss or even put to vote, feel free to set up a poll and state your case in this thread.  ;D  Or if you like, you can let me know, and I'll make an announcement or even write up a beautiful post for you.  :D :D

3. Both CIYAM and vbcs are valuable members of Qora community, and they'll definitely continue to be members of Team Qora.  I've been in contact with CIYAM, and he had shared some of his visions for Qora with me.  One thing I can say for certain is this: there's definitely some exciting development going on, and great things are coming!  :)  

Okay, that's all I want to say for now~


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 08, 2016, 06:49:21 AM

A big big thanks to every body involved and taking the time to seriously think over and weigh the odds in this whole voting process. It is quite frankly a liberating process for me since the foundation of this process is intact as it should be. Again, from the very first developer to all further involved developers and to the community as a whole, thank you. Long Live Qora!!  8)

I agree, Qora community is small but quite thoughtful and focused on the issues. We have shown remarkable resilience over the bear market of 2014-15, and as we approach our 2nd birthday I'm feeling very positive for the future. Great tech, great devs, and maybe one of the best decentralized power structures too. I don't feel influence and decision making authority is concentrated anywhere in particular. That's very healthy!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 08, 2016, 01:09:54 PM


I have a few questions:


2. Has the departure of 2 members (in the last weeks or month) from the Qora team something to do with different opinions over azure?


I have stepped in into this project, trying to save it and I took everything on my hands.
I had several ideas and visions for this and luckily, as I said, due to the work made by the qora team, Qora became powerful enough.
But unfortunately the majority of users was not here.
And I've been tired trying to save Qora, trying to save your money's value, trying to save the decentralization idea that Qora represents with its features.
At the same time, I have a real life, I need to work, I need to take care of my self a little bit, I have priorities.
Unfortunately I've met a dead end, so I decided to stop everything I am doing for Qora as because I have been heavily involved for "really" no reason.
Ideas are wonderful guys, but reality is hard.Nothing can be achieved without the proper support.
I've been supported by CIYAM and Qora team and you still have Qora alive.Now you have to support them to keep the idea - and your money - alive.

Cheers
Vrontis

Vrontis can we do anything to get you again in our community?
We need you!!!

I understand that you don't want to do a lot of work for nothing.
We had an AT fund for the CIYAM team.
To ALL believer in Qora here: can we make a similar fund for our Qora team?
Maybe not only @vrontis but @agran, too, would join again. And who know, maybe @Qora himself too...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kjadB on April 08, 2016, 02:32:18 PM


I have a few questions:


2. Has the departure of 2 members (in the last weeks or month) from the Qora team something to do with different opinions over azure?


I have stepped in into this project, trying to save it and I took everything on my hands.
I had several ideas and visions for this and luckily, as I said, due to the work made by the qora team, Qora became powerful enough.
But unfortunately the majority of users was not here.
And I've been tired trying to save Qora, trying to save your money's value, trying to save the decentralization idea that Qora represents with its features.
At the same time, I have a real life, I need to work, I need to take care of my self a little bit, I have priorities.
Unfortunately I've met a dead end, so I decided to stop everything I am doing for Qora as because I have been heavily involved for "really" no reason.
Ideas are wonderful guys, but reality is hard.Nothing can be achieved without the proper support.
I've been supported by CIYAM and Qora team and you still have Qora alive.Now you have to support them to keep the idea - and your money - alive.

Cheers
Vrontis

Vrontis can we do anything to get you again in our community?
We need you!!!

I understand that you don't want to do a lot of work for nothing.
We had an AT fund for the CIYAM team.
To ALL believer in Qora here: can we make a similar fund for our Qora team?
Maybe not only @vrontis but @agran, too, would join again. And who know, maybe @Qora himself too...

+1

What can the community do to help Vrontis?

These issues currently dominating NXT forum too (how to stay decentralised but raise sufficient money to support people working for little reward).

One suggestion in NXT, create 'the RedHat of NXT'. Could similar be possible with Qora? Create a 'business' that generates revenue fom user support etc, and then use some of that funding to help keep Qora development alive and decentralised.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 08, 2016, 02:35:00 PM
The answer to being able to keep things decentralised is the essence of P2P itself.

You need to find something that enough people are going to want to use to expand the user-base so that you have enough nodes to keep it decentralised.

The best examples we have so far are BitTorrent and Bitcoin (but obviously we need something different to those).

IMO some features that @Vrontis added to Qora (the decentralised web and blogging) might hold the key, however, the way that it is currently being done isn't working.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on April 08, 2016, 02:40:41 PM
The answer to being able to keep things decentralised is the essence of P2P itself.

You need to find something that enough people are going to want to use to expand the user-base so that you have enough nodes to keep it decentralised.

The best examples we have so far are BitTorrent and Bitcoin (but obviously we need something different to those).

IMO something that @Vrontis added to Qora (the decentralised web and blogging) might hold the key, however, the way that it is currently being done isn't working.


Yes, we need AT between Qora and Bitcoin! ;)

To have more than 50% of our Qora at Poloniex and Bter is very bad. We should find something SOON that people want to have their funds in their own wallet!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 08, 2016, 02:43:26 PM
Yes, we need AT between Qora and Bitcoin! ;)

That we can do (and @vbcs is currently working on that) in terms of ACCT.

The plan is to actually have Qora have its own Bitcoin wallet and be able to do ACCT between itself and Bitcoin (without any 3rd party exchange).

AFAIA we are the first to be working on this (and it should be ready in a couple of months assuming everything goes well).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kjadB on April 08, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
The answer to being able to keep things decentralised is the essence of P2P itself.

You need to find something that enough people are going to want to use to expand the user-base so that you have enough nodes to keep it decentralised.

The best examples we have so far are BitTorrent and Bitcoin (but obviously we need something different to those).

IMO something that @Vrontis added to Qora (the decentralised web and blogging) might hold the key, however, the way that it is currently being done isn't working.


I agree we need to 'find something that enough people are going to want to use to expand the user-base', but somewhere along the line the users have to contribute some funds (donations or payments). BitTorrent and Bitcoin are great examples where people are motivated to run P2P nodes, but how well have they done at paying developers and supporting things like marketing? A "RedHat of Qora" might be able to help with that, but it isn't an easy thing to setup.

A good example might be how some universities have 'tried' to commercialize some research they do. Those funds can then go back into consolidated revenue which can support other areas that have no monetisation possibilities. Basically there's an attempt to cross-subsidise things that need to be done but don't generate any revenue (like pure science) with things that can generate revenue (like a commercialised application or product). I think eventually crypto funding model needs something similar, and maybe the Linux ecosystem is a good place to look for inspiration.

People working without payment for too long isn't sustainable


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wesiematic on April 08, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
Hi, is anyone here having withdrawal problem from bter exchange?

I've withdraw my qora 1 week ago but still not process it yet.

There are plenty of people having problems with Bter! I suggest to avoid using BTER and use CCEDK and Poloniex instead!

I can confirm it, i'm missing a nice amount of Qora since 1 year, i wrote several times to the support, but obviously they are not able or willing to fix it.

update: just thought some days ago, i should write a support ticket again and wow they fixed it, all is perfect.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tobsnn on April 08, 2016, 09:54:19 PM
Yes, we need AT between Qora and Bitcoin! ;)

The plan is to actually have Qora have its own Bitcoin wallet and be able to do ACCT between itself and Bitcoin (without any 3rd party exchange).

AFAIA we are the first to be working on this (and it should be ready in a couple of months assuming everything goes well).


Oh my god, that would be a wonderful USP. Cant wait for it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 09, 2016, 11:18:30 AM
I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).

One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).

Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on April 09, 2016, 11:27:58 AM
I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).

One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).

Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.


Both good ideas - especially 1 vote = 1 individual as all voting implementations I've seen are weighted based on stake (maybe I've missed other voting options out there).


 PS - sad to see Vrontis leave qora but happy to see emancipator sticking aroung  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 09, 2016, 11:56:24 AM
I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).

One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).

Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.


What's the advantage of using a completely separate blockchain here over some kind of asset or token? Particularly for ticketing, but I think it applies to the other cases as well, there is a single entity issuing these vouchers, so they can create as many as they want and sell them for whatever price they want (or in the case of voting distribute them).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 09, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
What's the advantage of using a completely separate blockchain here over some kind of asset or token?

The main point of dividing up applications into separate blockchains is to prevent centralisation (which will always eventually result in corruption IMO). It also makes it easier to market something that isn't trying to be everything (a problem that Qora currently has IMO).

If you look at the way that the world-wide-web has currently evolved we have multiple "application platforms" rather than just one "this is everything" web-site (i.e. that's why you are using BCT rather than Google for your posts).

I have been against the idea of Bitcoin been "the only blockchain" as well (part of the motivation behind the design of AT to be able to function as a way of being able to communicate between blockchains).

Also certain applications will prefer faster confirmations than others (not really possible if you want to put them all in the one) and others might actually be geographically limited (which will be able to work much faster because of that).

It's also a bit like what NASA does with a spaceship - it has multiple redundant systems so if one system malfunctions you don't end up with a catastrophe (by having all blockchains support AT then in fact all applications could be run on any one of them although it might not work as nicely on a blockchain that was designed for a more specific purpose).

In regards to voting I am not interested in a POS approach and the alternative requires a different kind of mechanism to control account creation (which I've been working on for some time now). When you have such a fundamental difference it makes sense to create a different blockchain (rather than to try and add that as another feature to the one blockchain).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 09, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
Another reason for multiple blockchains is that for some commercial enterprises the use of a cloud services to host the majority (if not all) of the nodes might be what such commercial enterprises actually want to do (I can see the equivalent of shopping centre vouchers perhaps working like this in the future).

So in short I don't see that we can have a "one size fits all" blockchain (and I think that it is prudent to have alternatives much like perhaps carrying more than one type of credit card).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on April 09, 2016, 01:08:21 PM
I see. Thanks for expounding.

Recent discussion of cross chain txs on /r/bitcoin:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4dum58/zeroknowledge_atomic_crossblockchain_swaps/
Burst mentioned but not Qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 09, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
It's a pity that the ACCT AT was so poorly reported (due to the theft of the Burst marketing funds for it) so it isn't even understood that between Qora and Burst there is no tx malleability issue (and that is no longer a problem when using Bitcoin and Litecoin now due to CLTV).

In fact I am pretty certain that the first ever live-net ACCT (i.e. between two live-net blockchains) was between Qora and Burst using AT (it is possible some experimental (and subject to tx malleability attack) tx took place between Bitcoin and Litecoin previously but I had only read about ACCT being performed using "testnet" before the ACCT AT went live).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on April 10, 2016, 02:55:44 AM
What's the advantage of using a completely separate blockchain here over some kind of asset or token?

The main point of dividing up applications into separate blockchains is to prevent centralisation (which will always eventually result in corruption IMO). It also makes it easier to market something that isn't trying to be everything (a problem that Qora currently has IMO).


There's always a temptation to build a swiss-army knife with technology, but often it damages usability. That's a reason why Google crushed all the other 'portal' search engines that were popular in the mid 90's. Page rank gave better results, but for a noobie the main advantage was the Google screen was just so easy to use. Separating things into separate blockchains is a good design idea if it makes things more user-friendly, and it does work against centralisation as CIYAM points out. I like it :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on April 10, 2016, 04:42:59 AM
I see. Thanks for expounding.

Recent discussion of cross chain txs on /r/bitcoin:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4dum58/zeroknowledge_atomic_crossblockchain_swaps/
Burst mentioned but not Qora.


Oh yes Qora needs better PR, obviously.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: twospirit on April 10, 2016, 11:40:54 AM
hey guys, who is now in the development team? also, can someone sum up what was happening in last months?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ben99 on April 11, 2016, 11:10:29 AM
Hi Qora Dev,
Can you please add qora to Bitrex , thank you :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 15, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Holy shit, out of the blue and after almost 1 year Bter finally gave our Qora back, it's a miracle!

Regardless, stay away from Bter.

Any exchange claiming they're having wallet issues for nearly 1 year doesn't deserve anyone's business IMHO.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on April 15, 2016, 07:40:15 AM
BTER finally showed my 5million deposit!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: robstak on April 15, 2016, 08:21:50 AM
Holy shit, out of the blue and after almost 1 year Bter finally gave our Qora back, it's a miracle!

Regardless, stay away from Bter.

Any exchange claiming they're having wallet issues for nearly 1 year doesn't deserve anyone's business IMHO.

Agree, seems bter just want to lure back their customers.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CptAhab on April 15, 2016, 12:18:56 PM
People, did anyone notice that the website has been down for some time now? Is there still anything happening there at Qora, and is there any news on Version 0.26.0?

Regarding the prior discussions on Azure, I think it is to bad that the final vote came to 'nay' - the promotion it would have given us (and developers) could have been a blessing for this project which is in the end, like almost any altcoin project, all about wide spread notoriety and adoption.

Still think QORA is one of the best cryptocurrencies, but i could use some upswing..



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rlh on April 15, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
BTER finally showed my 5million deposit!

Miracle!  Seriously, cryptoland never ceases to amaze me.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: x13 on April 15, 2016, 08:42:27 PM
We should try to do more marketing for Qora based on the great blogging and social networking feature.

What about the marketing hashtag #Blogchain?  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wtman on April 16, 2016, 04:59:46 AM
Yes, we need AT between Qora and Bitcoin! ;)

The plan is to actually have Qora have its own Bitcoin wallet and be able to do ACCT between itself and Bitcoin (without any 3rd party exchange).

AFAIA we are the first to be working on this (and it should be ready in a couple of months assuming everything goes well).


Oh my god, that would be a wonderful USP. Cant wait for it.

Can someone explain what would be the use of Qora having its own Bitcoin wallet and be able to do ACCT between itself and btc without any third party exchange?
What are the likely practical applications of it?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wtman on April 16, 2016, 05:02:03 AM
hey guys, who is now in the development team? also, can someone sum up what was happening in last months?

Yes, I'm curious about it too as an investor. I would like to know who is behind it. Can't find any such information on here or the website.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MaGNeT on April 16, 2016, 05:05:17 AM
Holy shit, out of the blue and after almost 1 year Bter finally gave our Qora back, it's a miracle!

Regardless, stay away from Bter.

Any exchange claiming they're having wallet issues for nearly 1 year doesn't deserve anyone's business IMHO.

I wouldn't touch Bter with a stick...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DARKHOLDER on April 16, 2016, 06:54:22 AM
I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).

One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).

Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.

Hello! Im just long term investor of Qora but still want to know something about this years roadmap of Qora.. is there some news about that?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on April 18, 2016, 11:58:31 AM

If I recall well, vbcs is working on the acct between Qora/Btc. Is that still valid? I was wondering whether there is any ETA or progress report on acct.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on April 18, 2016, 11:59:14 AM

If I recall well, vbcs is working on the acct between Qora/Btc. Is that still valid? I was wondering whether there is any ETA or progress report on acct.
I would be interested in this too!

EDIT: Could this feature be used to launder BTC?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wtman on April 20, 2016, 02:50:57 AM
Is there somewhere we can see roadmap of upcoming developments?
This coin is innovative but it didn't get the attention and market love it deserved, probably because of not enough marketing support. There was a pump a while ago to around 50, wonder whether it was just a random pump or we have some serious people interested in it


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: soundwallet on April 20, 2016, 03:02:54 AM
dev has gone,Qora is close to dead now.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wtman on April 20, 2016, 03:10:20 AM
dev has gone,Qora is close to dead now.

Can you elaborate?
There are multiple devs. Which one has gone and which one are still sticking to it?
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxzG2gXM.jpg&t=563&c=az2mnZ8kBAqXfw


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wtman on April 20, 2016, 06:21:02 AM
qora.team Last Active:    April 07, 2016
I want to know whether he is gone?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on April 20, 2016, 06:27:17 AM
dev has gone,Qora is close to dead now.


That's not true, there is a new dev called ca333 who has recently joined the multiple dev team. Also vbcs and CIYAM are part of the dev team. What's more skerberus has been a long term member of the dev team and still is. Agran is leaving the dev team after version 0.26 is released, but ca333 joining makes up for that loss.

Hi, everyone!  I have the following announcements to make:

1. ca333, the security expert from Switzerland, will join Qora dev team as a security consultant/core contributor. He had provided code contributions and performed security audits for Qora in the past.  After joining the dev team, he will support Qora development by providing critical security analysis/bug fixes and much needed consultation.

He has my full support and trust, and I have full confidence in his expertise and ability to provide critical analysis.  To get an idea of what kind of work ca333 had been doing in the past, feel free to check out his BTT profile.

2. vbcs and CIYAM will continue to be a part of our Qora dev team.  Everything is cool. Please relax.  :)

So, everyone, let's get back on track and continue with the development!  ;)  Skerberus is currently working on bug fixes in 0.26.  I'll let him make an announcement when it's ready for release.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wtman on April 20, 2016, 06:45:19 AM
dev has gone,Qora is close to dead now.


That's not true, there is a new dev called ca333 who has recently joined the multiple dev team. Also vbcs and CIYAM are part of the dev team. What's more skerberus has been a long term member of the dev team and still is. Agran is leaving the dev team after version 0.26 is released, but ca333 joining makes up for that loss.

Hi, everyone!  I have the following announcements to make:

1. ca333, the security expert from Switzerland, will join Qora dev team as a security consultant/core contributor. He had provided code contributions and performed security audits for Qora in the past.  After joining the dev team, he will support Qora development by providing critical security analysis/bug fixes and much needed consultation.

He has my full support and trust, and I have full confidence in his expertise and ability to provide critical analysis.  To get an idea of what kind of work ca333 had been doing in the past, feel free to check out his BTT profile.

2. vbcs and CIYAM will continue to be a part of our Qora dev team.  Everything is cool. Please relax.  :)

So, everyone, let's get back on track and continue with the development!  ;)  Skerberus is currently working on bug fixes in 0.26.  I'll let him make an announcement when it's ready for release.  :)

Good stuff. I checked out Slack. There are developments going on indeed. There is exciting stuff apart from the things we know outside slack (acct between qora & bitcoin without 3rd party exchange) and the new version.
Apart from all that, wonder why people discount the existing decentralized social network and blogging system on Qora? Huge value to be unlocked in future imo


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on April 20, 2016, 07:48:13 AM
Me thinks vbcs should verify himself.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on April 22, 2016, 08:16:41 AM
dev has gone,Qora is close to dead now.


That's not true, there is a new dev called ca333 who has recently joined the multiple dev team. Also vbcs and CIYAM are part of the dev team. What's more skerberus has been a long term member of the dev team and still is. Agran is leaving the dev team after version 0.26 is released, but ca333 joining makes up for that loss.

Hi, everyone!  I have the following announcements to make:

1. ca333, the security expert from Switzerland, will join Qora dev team as a security consultant/core contributor. He had provided code contributions and performed security audits for Qora in the past.  After joining the dev team, he will support Qora development by providing critical security analysis/bug fixes and much needed consultation.

He has my full support and trust, and I have full confidence in his expertise and ability to provide critical analysis.  To get an idea of what kind of work ca333 had been doing in the past, feel free to check out his BTT profile.

2. vbcs and CIYAM will continue to be a part of our Qora dev team.  Everything is cool. Please relax.  :)

So, everyone, let's get back on track and continue with the development!  ;)  Skerberus is currently working on bug fixes in 0.26.  I'll let him make an announcement when it's ready for release.  :)

Good stuff. I checked out Slack. There are developments going on indeed. There is exciting stuff apart from the things we know outside slack (acct between qora & bitcoin without 3rd party exchange) and the new version.
Apart from all that, wonder why people discount the existing decentralized social network and blogging system on Qora? Huge value to be unlocked in future imo


But Slack is a closed platform, while Bitcointalk is an open forum. Better have someone to help share those development news publicly on Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wareat on April 22, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
Qora below 20 sat again  :-\


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on April 22, 2016, 10:33:52 AM
Qora below 20 sat again  :-\

good coin, no community :|

edit: Also two good devs stopped working for qora: vrontis, agran


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on April 22, 2016, 10:49:15 AM
Unfortunately, I see no future in this unless ACCT gets released.

Which will not be easy because it seems it is not top priority for vbcs (who can blame him? Tons of work for practically zero reward)...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lyynx on April 22, 2016, 11:31:05 AM
I think that Bter is now finally releasing coins, many who were active in the community will return, just like myself. My suggestion at this point is for everyone to hold their coins, remove the bulk of their coins from trading platforms. Scarcity creates opportunity. For me, I am just getting caught up with what has changed in the past 7 months and what is on the horizon for the up coming year. I will be participating in the marketing of Qora once I have a handle on what we have to offer and I will be proposing some marketing activities in the up coming weeks.

So, in the meantime, Qora is not dead, in fact it is more akin to a Phoenix (Suggest that be the name of the next release). BTW, it's great to be back.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on April 22, 2016, 11:37:30 AM
Unfortunately, I see no future in this unless ACCT gets released.

Which will not be easy because it seems it is not top priority for vbcs (who can blame him? Tons of work for practically zero reward)...

Although Qrowdfund is the current focus that has been nearly completed and reworking ACCT is the next thing that @vbcs is intending to focus on so I wouldn't write things off just yet.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lyynx on April 23, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
I just spent some time in the Slack channel and can say for sure this Crypto is far from being dead, it is more akin to being in a metamorphosis. On the outside a quite weathered shell with no indication of life, but in all actuality, under the surface, a multitude of changes and improvements are underway. Stay tuned, you don't want to miss the show.

Also, if everyone that reads this thread doesn't mind, please reply with "Here!" to let us know you are here, kind of a role call.

If you are willing to help with Qora in any capacity, include that in your response and/or send me a PM to let us know what area of this project you have the time and desire to assist in. Even if it's only  in spirit, your feedback is appreciated.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on April 23, 2016, 07:29:27 PM
I just spent some time in the Slack channel and can say for sure this Crypto is far from being dead, it is more akin to being in a metamorphosis. On the outside a quite weathered shell with no indication of life, but in all actuality, under the surface, a multitude of changes and improvements are underway. Stay tuned, you don't want to miss the show.

Also, if everyone that reads this thread doesn't mind, please reply with "Here!" to let us know you are here, kind of a role call.

If you are willing to help with Qora in any capacity, include that in your response and/or send me a PM to let us know what area of this project you have the time and desire to assist in. Even if it's only  in spirit, your feedback is appreciated.

The first time I saw Qora, I thought that it was going to be another alt, but then I decided to research more about Qora and it's features and I have found it very useful myself. I would say that it is one of the most advanced cryptos in the market, and it could have very strong potential. Sometimes I wonder why it is very undervalued, but I guess it is because Qora is in its very first steps. The current prices make it very ideal for those to enter this exciting journey, as I have a feeling that the price of Qora will be much more valuable than what it is right now in the near future. I expect for Qora to reach at least $0.01 in value.  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: bonipper on April 23, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
I just spent some time in the Slack channel and can say for sure this Crypto is far from being dead, it is more akin to being in a metamorphosis. On the outside a quite weathered shell with no indication of life, but in all actuality, under the surface, a multitude of changes and improvements are underway. Stay tuned, you don't want to miss the show.

Also, if everyone that reads this thread doesn't mind, please reply with "Here!" to let us know you are here, kind of a role call.

If you are willing to help with Qora in any capacity, include that in your response and/or send me a PM to let us know what area of this project you have the time and desire to assist in. Even if it's only  in spirit, your feedback is appreciated.

The first time I saw Qora, I thought that it was going to be another alt, but then I decided to research more about Qora and it's features and I have found it very useful myself. I would say that it is one of the most advanced cryptos in the market, and it could have very strong potential. Sometimes I wonder why it is very undervalued, but I guess it is because Qora is in its very first steps. The current prices make it very ideal for those to enter this exciting journey, as I have a feeling that the price of Qora will be much more valuable than what it is right now in the near future. I expect for Qora to reach at least $0.01 in value.  ;D

I expect for Qora to reach a much higher value, but it needs more publicity. There was someone who said he would be taking on the job of publicizing it soon, and when he gets people noticing it the value should start to climb. The more posts this thread gets, the more people will notice it, so the role call idea is a great strategy.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on April 24, 2016, 12:04:50 PM
good time buy QORA when the price is low now.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SimkoMiner on April 24, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
good time buy QORA when the price is low now.

Exactly. :) Buying all this shit before it's too late.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lyynx on April 24, 2016, 02:54:27 PM
Glad to see some interest and new posts. I just want to take a moment to acknowledge and thank all those who have taken time out of their lives to keep this project moving forward. Just by browsing the Slack Channel, I can say we have one of the most talented teams, all of whom work for basically no compensation.

So, let's dedicate the next few pages of this forum to giving a special thanks to the Qora Dev Team, past and present members. You are appreciated.

http://i.imgur.com/AZNzGcj.jpg

We thank you.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: elevenbill on April 25, 2016, 12:21:04 AM
What is the qora slack web address?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: conexivist on April 25, 2016, 12:30:03 AM
https://qoracommunity.slack.com


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: chum_yum on April 25, 2016, 08:22:27 PM
https://qoracommunity.slack.com

Can't  anybody invite into https://qoracommunity.slack.com ?
http://slack.qora.co.in/  is 503  ???


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: zazarb on April 26, 2016, 09:46:41 AM
It looks like I'm lost among the lots of Quora thread :)

or who recently tried to put a deposit in ccedk.com ?
already 2 day passed but my Qora still on moderation and support not replied.






Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: helloge on April 26, 2016, 04:13:35 PM
Sad for price, wait for the next pump.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: x13 on April 26, 2016, 05:17:38 PM
Agree, price is low again. Similar as last time when it was at 9 Sats and I was recommending to buy Qora. Sold most of my stake at 52-56 sats during the last pump. Now I building up a stake now because Qora is still one of the most primising coins out there.

good time buy QORA when the price is low now.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on April 26, 2016, 06:31:23 PM
Agree, price is low again. Similar as last time when it was at 9 Sats and I was recommending to buy Qora. Sold most of my stake at 52-56 sats during the last pump. Now I building up a stake now because Qora is still one of the most primising coins out there.

good time buy QORA when the price is low now.

There will be times that price will be low and other times that the pump will come and make Qora a good way to settle for profits. Being a feature rich crypto currency, I'd say that prices like these won't be seen for a long time (once it gets the attention it deserves) So all that can be done right now is buy cheap Qora, sell when the next pump comes and then buy again when prices go cheaper again. It is that simple.

I hope that Qora becomes mainstream someday.  ::)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: agran on April 30, 2016, 06:58:55 AM
https://qoracommunity.slack.com

Can't  anybody invite into https://qoracommunity.slack.com ?
http://slack.qora.co.in/  is 503  ???
Fixed.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ben99 on April 30, 2016, 01:50:08 PM
can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: RACT on May 01, 2016, 10:43:53 PM
buy while it's low :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Tuck Fheman on May 02, 2016, 03:08:01 AM
edit: Also two good devs stopped working for qora: vrontis, agran

I was unaware of this, damn, sorry to see both go. Vrontis is super cool and left a good impression of Qora with other Communities during the Beyond Bitcoin Hangout in which he participated. Any idea if he's working with another coin or just outside obligations forced him to leave?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Arrakeen on May 02, 2016, 03:12:14 AM
Buying in while the price is low  :)

First time Qora holder here, what do I need to know?  Any info on mining?  Hope to see you guys around soon, and thanks in advance for any help :)

Just downloaded the wallet (do i need a bootstrap or anything?)!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Tuck Fheman on May 02, 2016, 03:26:31 AM
we should have had about the first ACCT between two blockchains was never even published back when that occurred.

Well, actually I did take care of that back then and on my own dime.

http://tuckfheman.com/post/115177496459/qora-and-its-automated-features-may-soon-change

It surprises me that you were unaware of it.  :-\

We also had about 10+ pages full of Qora news/articles from that time. I also tried to get you to do an interview with us on Beyond Bitcoin back then but you were traveling and were unable to attend. So we set one up with Vrontis and it went very well as we had more than 50 people attend the Hangout.

Twospirit also contributed after it was successful ...

http://tuckfheman.com/post/119218150749/worlds-first-atomic-cross-chain-transfer-on-a

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/qora-burst-now-able-make-cross-chain-transactions/

I've also been promoting Qora on Steemit (http://Steemit.com/trending) (a blockchain-based social media platform) this past week, to my detriment. ;)




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on May 02, 2016, 08:36:11 AM
Hey @Tuck - am sorry I wasn't aware of your articles before so thanks for pointing that out. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tuvok007 on May 03, 2016, 06:05:11 PM
Buying in while the price is low  :)

First time Qora holder here, what do I need to know?  Any info on mining?  Hope to see you guys around soon, and thanks in advance for any help :)

Just downloaded the wallet (do i need a bootstrap or anything?)!

Did you buy some? Can you say how much? I"m thinking to buy some also.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: x13 on May 04, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Agree, price between 12-15 Sats is very low comparing the tech Qora offers to other coins. I am very confident that the price will bounce back at highs around 30-40 Sats soon.

Buying in while the price is low  :)

First time Qora holder here, what do I need to know?  Any info on mining?  Hope to see you guys around soon, and thanks in advance for any help :)

Just downloaded the wallet (do i need a bootstrap or anything?)!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on May 05, 2016, 08:03:57 AM
https://qoracommunity.slack.com

Can't  anybody invite into https://qoracommunity.slack.com ?
http://slack.qora.co.in/  is 503  ???
Fixed.


Someone posted earlier saying agran stopped working for Qora. Is that really true or you have changed your mind?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: x13 on May 05, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
Contact WizzardTim via pm and ask for getting a invitation. You need to provide your email adress to him.

can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on May 05, 2016, 11:49:31 AM
Contact WizzardTim via pm and ask for getting a invitation. You need to provide your email adress to him.

can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)

I think to get an invite all that's needed is visit http://slack.qora.co.in/ and enter an email - I am not responsible for slack invitations


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on May 05, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
Contact WizzardTim via pm and ask for getting a invitation. You need to provide your email adress to him.

can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)

I think to get an invite all that's needed is visit http://slack.qora.co.in/ and enter an email - I am not responsible for slack invitations
Aren't you the new project leader?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on May 05, 2016, 05:43:06 PM
Contact WizzardTim via pm and ask for getting a invitation. You need to provide your email adress to him.

can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)

I think to get an invite all that's needed is visit http://slack.qora.co.in/ and enter an email - I am not responsible for slack invitations
Aren't you the new project leader?

Nope  :P


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on May 05, 2016, 05:57:19 PM
Contact WizzardTim via pm and ask for getting a invitation. You need to provide your email adress to him.

can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)

I think to get an invite all that's needed is visit http://slack.qora.co.in/ and enter an email - I am not responsible for slack invitations
Aren't you the new project leader?

Nope  :P
Me dumping 500M Qora in 3, 2, ....


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on May 05, 2016, 07:38:40 PM
Contact WizzardTim via pm and ask for getting a invitation. You need to provide your email adress to him.

can any one invite me to qora com please on slack  :)

I think to get an invite all that's needed is visit http://slack.qora.co.in/ and enter an email - I am not responsible for slack invitations
Aren't you the new project leader?

Nope  :P
Me dumping 500M Qora in 3, 2, ....

ROFLMAO


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on May 06, 2016, 01:08:50 AM
Just stopping by to say GO QORA!

-Your friendly neighborhood BURST man. ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on May 07, 2016, 04:29:30 AM
Seems as though things are a bit hollow after the 60+ sat run. Devs leaving and now little goings on. Being patient.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on May 07, 2016, 06:31:08 AM
Seems as though things are a bit hollow after the 60+ sat run. Devs leaving and now little goings on. Being patient.

Never fear. QORA has strong connections.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: KoshaKosha on May 12, 2016, 05:45:12 AM
My 5-6 sat buy orders are ready :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on May 12, 2016, 05:47:21 PM
My 5-6 sat buy orders are ready :)

I've still got some old open buy orders around the 5-7 sat mark from late Feb/early March time, before the spike in price.  Get in line!   :P

Although saying that, I'm not entirely convinced it's actually going to go that low again.  I might consider cancelling those off and putting in orders at 8-9.  We'll see.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on May 16, 2016, 04:51:58 AM
Wow, quiet in here for weeks. Looks like floor is around 12-13. Any future outlook for Qora? Who's the current lead dev?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on May 17, 2016, 05:21:29 PM

Wow, quiet in here for weeks. Looks like floor is around 12-13. Any future outlook for Qora? Who's the current lead dev?

Yes if 10-11 can hold for some time, we might see upward movement again. I was surprised by recent spike. volume shot up dramatically.








Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on May 17, 2016, 05:46:06 PM
Does anyone know what's happening with CCEDK closing and rebranding?  Would balances be carried over to their new implementation?  I deleted their email because I thought it was another spam trying to flog "obits" again, heh.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: William Anker on May 17, 2016, 06:34:48 PM
Does anyone know what's happening with CCEDK closing and rebranding?  Would balances be carried over to their new implementation?  I deleted their email because I thought it was another spam trying to flog "obits" again, heh.

Forbes says the exchange is closing in May, but withdrawals will be unaffected during the upgrade period and possible throughout June 2016 and afterwards upon request. It's not clear what "upon request" means, and I wonder if it means you have to email them and get them to do it manually.

Whatever happens, at least CCEDK hasn't done a Gox.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/05/15/bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-relaunching-as-decentralized-conglomerate-with-crowdfund-focus/#159939337fd1

Quote
..with the current trading engine ceasing for good this May, investors should not panic as the shutdown will allow the exchange to initiate a major upgrade. Once revamped it relaunches as a Decentralized Conglomerate on 1 July – aka an enterprise ecosystem engine.

..

Withdrawals from CCDEK will nevertheless unaffected during the upgrade period and possible throughout June 2016 upon request – as well as afterwards.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GameKyuubi on May 18, 2016, 03:03:43 AM
Hey guys, I have a really old version of the Qora wallet, how do I update without losing my funds?  If I install and then replace the wallet folder it doesn't work.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: freigeist on May 18, 2016, 05:34:39 AM
Hey guys, I have a really old version of the Qora wallet, how do I update without losing my funds?  If I install and then replace the wallet folder it doesn't work.

Hello.

I think you will have to remove the old data and
download the whole block chanin again from the beginning I mean let the wallet synchronoze from 0.
Also if you have your seed key (I hope for you that you have not lost it) by enetrting this key in the wallet
you should have all your funds there once it has synched.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GameKyuubi on May 18, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
Hey guys, I have a really old version of the Qora wallet, how do I update without losing my funds?  If I install and then replace the wallet folder it doesn't work.

Hello.

I think you will have to remove the old data and
download the whole block chanin again from the beginning I mean let the wallet synchronoze from 0.
Also if you have your seed key (I hope for you that you have not lost it) by enetrting this key in the wallet
you should have all your funds there once it has synched.


Got it, thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on May 19, 2016, 06:22:35 AM
Seems as though things are a bit hollow after the 60+ sat run. Devs leaving and now little goings on. Being patient.


I guess that 60+ sat had a direct relationship with devs leaving, coz it was likely the devs sold all their coins at that higher price.

Don't know whether it's good or bad for Qora in long term.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on May 19, 2016, 07:26:56 AM
No mans land


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on May 19, 2016, 05:56:00 PM

10-11 sat holding so far, looks good.

also, maybe devs were a little cash strapped and could sell at excellent 60 sats to buy up now again at 10. If the case good for them  :)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on May 20, 2016, 05:29:42 AM
If the case good for them  :)

Yea, but who is 'them'? Seems as if no devs are stepping up to lead updates and outline a vision. As Klee says, no mans land!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on May 20, 2016, 07:30:18 AM
If the case good for them  :)

Yea, but who is 'them'? Seems as if no devs are stepping up to lead updates and outline a vision. As Klee says, no mans land!

I wouldn't worry much. QORA always has the support of the BURST team too, and I know everything is going to be AOK!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GetVisaCoin on May 20, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
If the case good for them  :)

Yea, but who is 'them'? Seems as if no devs are stepping up to lead updates and outline a vision. As Klee says, no mans land!

I wouldn't worry much. QORA always has the support of the BURST team too, and I know everything is going to be AOK!


I hope you're right, QORA is a coin with great tech


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SimkoMiner on May 20, 2016, 04:11:48 PM
Reason of that quick pump?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: RACT on May 20, 2016, 06:56:01 PM
where's it going?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on May 20, 2016, 11:41:11 PM
Reason of that quick pump?
Traders getting bored or new wallet going to be released ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on May 21, 2016, 12:08:39 AM
Reason of that quick pump?
Traders getting bored or new wallet going to be released ?

I think last time ETH pumped to mega highs, after a few days you started seeing all kinds of alts following suit and ETH kind of deflating a bit. I haven't really looked at markets today, but I heard on this board that at least Sia and Monero are also doing well today. If I had to guess I'd say probably some ETH traders taking some profits and diversifying a bit into other alts (or if you want to be cynical diversifying by trying to pump other alts and make more BTC trading).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GetVisaCoin on May 21, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
Hey guys, I have a really old version of the Qora wallet, how do I update without losing my funds?  If I install and then replace the wallet folder it doesn't work.

@GameKyuubi, you're the HODL dude (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0), right?

Hey everyone, the HODL dudes HODL'ing QORA - awesome!

That's gotta be a good omen for QORA


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rorschach1 on May 21, 2016, 02:01:48 PM
Reason of that quick pump?
Agran said he done his work and ready to release a new version so we have to expect a few days ago big pump to 60 or higher


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on May 21, 2016, 07:50:46 PM

Hey guys, I have a really old version of the Qora wallet, how do I update without losing my funds?  If I install and then replace the wallet folder it doesn't work.

@GameKyuubi, you're the HODL dude (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0), right?

Hey everyone, the HODL dudes HODL'ing QORA - awesome!

That's gotta be a good omen for QORA

GameKyuubi your OP I'm HODLING is truly epic. I'm a HODLer too. haven't sold a single Qora  :)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ttx on May 23, 2016, 05:05:45 PM
When update? There is a roadmap?

http://image.prntscr.com/image/fd0d79b8a6d9450d8f5215ca09360960.png


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on May 27, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
Wallet v0.26.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.26.0

Quote

The v0.26.0 release includes the following updates:

  • The possibility of translation of the interface into any languages.
  • Switching to Java 8.
  • The ability to disable forging (in settings.json: "forging": false)
  • Logging errors to a file.
  • Multipayments when changing Namestorage (if you like a post you will send the author 10 Qora)
  • Added new API commands:
       - POST transactions/find {"address":"<address>", "sender":"<sender>", "recipient":"<recipient>", "type":<type>, "service":<service>, "offset":<offset>, "limit":<limit>, "minHeight":<minHeight>, "maxHeight":<maxHeight>, "desc":<true/false>, "count":<true/false>}
       - POST transactions/process <dataBase58>
       - GET names/address/<address> (including foreign addresses)
       - GET names/address/<address>/values
       - GET addresses/lastreference/<address>
       - GET addresses/lastreference/<address>/unconfirmed
       - New commands allow to implement a full-fledged mobile app.
  • Fixed a bug due to which Windows-version could not start.
  • Command line param -peers=127.0.0.1,127.0.0.2,127.0.0.3 for add peers.
  • In BlockExplorer added support for displaying information on multiple addresses separated by a comma.
  • QR-code added for addresses in BlockExplorer.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on May 27, 2016, 12:11:39 AM
You can help by translating these files into your language:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/languages/null.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/available.json


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on May 27, 2016, 01:19:12 AM
You can help by translating these files into your language:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/languages/null.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/available.json


I need chinese  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: KLONE on May 27, 2016, 01:30:49 AM
Wallet v0.26.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.26.0

Quote

The v0.26.0 release includes the following updates:

  • The possibility of translation of the interface into any languages.
  • Switching to Java 8.
  • The ability to disable forging (in settings.json: "forging": false)
  • Logging errors to a file.
  • Multipayments when changing Namestorage (if you like a post you will send the author 10 Qora)
  • Added new API commands:
       - POST transactions/find {"address":"<address>", "sender":"<sender>", "recipient":"<recipient>", "type":<type>, "service":<service>, "offset":<offset>, "limit":<limit>, "minHeight":<minHeight>, "maxHeight":<maxHeight>, "desc":<true/false>, "count":<true/false>}
       - POST transactions/process <dataBase58>
       - GET names/address/<address> (including foreign addresses)
       - GET names/address/<address>/values
       - GET addresses/lastreference/<address>
       - GET addresses/lastreference/<address>/unconfirmed
       - New commands allow to implement a full-fledged mobile app.
  • Fixed a bug due to which Windows-version could not start.
  • Command line param -peers=127.0.0.1,127.0.0.2,127.0.0.3 for add peers.
  • In BlockExplorer added support for displaying information on multiple addresses separated by a comma.
  • QR-code added for addresses in BlockExplorer.
  • Minor optimizations and bug fixes.



Great work qora.team :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on May 27, 2016, 03:26:20 AM
Wallet v0.26.0 has been released and you can find it here: https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.26.0


Thanks qora.team! You guys deserve a medal of honor  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on May 27, 2016, 03:30:41 AM
You can help by translating these files into your language:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/languages/null.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/available.json


I need chinese  ;D
There is an incomplete version of the chinese translation:
Code:
"zh": {
"_file_": "zh.json",
"_lang_name_": "中文",
"_timestamp_of_translation_": 1456832177000,
"download lang_name translation": "下载中文翻译",
"download update of lang_name translation from %date%": "下载从 %date%开始的中文翻译的更新"
}
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0%20beta/languages/zh.json

https://pp.vk.me/c626327/v626327321/bc44/eESlhBGIGh0.jpg

It is enough only to translate these lines:
Code:
=========ADDED==========
{
"": "",
"% of total": "",
"(generator of <a href=?block=%blockHeight%>%blockHeight%<\/a> block: <a href=?addr=%generatorAddress%>%generatorAddress%<\/a>)": "",
"AT Account": "",
"AT Accounts": "",
"AT Amount": "",
"AT Type:": "",
"Account": "",
"Action": "",
"Address is not valid!": "",
"Addresses:": "",
"All %assetName% addresses (%count%)": "",
"All addresses": "",
"All non-empty %assetName% addresses (%count%)": "",
"All non-empty addresses": "",
"All on one page": "",
"Amount (Optional\/Default 20)": "",
"Amount <font size=-2> left from <a href=?order=%order%>order<\/a><\/font>": "",
"An error occured": "",
"An error occurred while saving settings.": "",
"An error occurred while saving the website.": "",
"Apply filter": "",
"Asset": "",
"Asset Trade": "",
"Asset with given key is missing!": "",
"Automated Transaction": "",
"Available pairs": "",
"Black\/Whitelist": "",
"Blacklist": "",
"Block Explorer": "",
"Block height": "",
"Block version": "",
"Blog": "",
"Blog Description": "",
"Blog Title": "",
"Blog follow not successful": "",
"Blog follow not successful<br>You already follow this blog": "",
"Blog follow not successful<br>You can't follow your own profiles": "",
"Blog unfollow not successful": "",
"Blogdirectory": "",
"Browse": "",
"Buy Orders": "",
"Buyer": "",
"Cancel filter": "",
"Child block %blockHeight%, signature:": "",
"Comment": "",
"Compressed": "",
"Connect": "",
"Connecting to known peer %peer% :: %knownPeersCounter% \/ %allKnownPeers% :: Connections: %activeConnections%": "",
"Connecting to peer %newpeer% proposed by %peer% :: %foreignPeersCounter% \/ %maxReceivePeersForPrint% \/ %allReceivePeers% :: Connections: %activeConnections%": "",
"Connection Error": "",
"Content": "",
"Copy Text": "",
"Create a new post": "",
"Create or update keys in namestorage": "",
"Creation Bytes": "",
"Current block %blockHeight%, signature:": "",
"Data": "",
"Data as Base58": "",
"Data as Text": "",
"Delete Error": "",
"Delete successful": "",
"Disable Comments": "",
"ERROR": "",
"Enable Blog": "",
"Enable Profile": "",
"Entering creator is mandatory.": "",
"Entering text is mandatory.": "",
"Fees": "",
"Follow": "",
"Follow Error": "",
"Followers": "",
"Following": "",
"Frozen:": "",
"Gen.Balance": "",
"Generating": "",
"Go To": "",
"Hashtag": "",
"Have": "",
"Including": "",
"Interface language": "",
"Key (use key website or leave it blank to create a website)": "",
"Key successfully saved.": "",
"Last Block Found %time% ago.": "",
"Last Block Height": "",
"Last Block Signature": "",
"Last Block Time": "",
"Last processed block": "",
"Later": "",
"Like Error": "",
"Like not successful": "",
"Like remove not successful": "",
"Like removed successful": "",
"Like successful": "",
"Max Amount": "",
"Namestorage": "",
"Namestorage repopulated!": "",
"New Address": "",
"New Compressed Value": "",
"New Owner": "",
"New Value": "",
"No transactions found for this address.<br>It has probably not been used on the network yet.": "",
"Open Orders Volume": "",
"Operations": "",
"Option": "",
"Options": "",
"Orders<br>Count": "",
"Pages": "",
"Pair": "",
"Parent block %blockHeight%, signature:": "",
"Payments": "",
"Peers loaded from database : %peers%": "",
"Peers loaded from settings : %peers%": "",
"Poll": "",
"Polls": "",
"Post preview": "",
"Preview": "",
"Previous": "",
"Profile Banner": "",
"Profile Name is not Allowed.": "",
"Profile Picture": "",
"Profiles disabled": "",
"Recipients": "",
"STATUS OK": "",
"Saving...please confirm the security call and then wait until you get a success message! If the transaction amount is high this may take some time...": "",
"Sell Orders": "",
"Sending...": "",
"Service ID": "",
"Settings successfully saved.": "",
"Share Error": "",
"Share not successful": "",
"Share successful": "",
"Site": "",
"Some parameters are missing.": "",
"Sorry, that page does not exist!": "",
"StorageHistory": "",
"Submit": "",
"Submitting...": "",
"Tags:": "",
"The Blog of your active profile is disabled!": "",
"The blog entry you are trying to delete does not exist!": "",
"The comment you are trying to delete does not exist!": "",
"The file has been added to the key! You still need to submit the result to make it persistent!": "",
"There are atleast two entries with duplicate keys (Bad key: %key%)": "",
"There is no Polls.": "",
"This Blogentry is already in your blog.": "",
"This blog is currently disabled.": "",
"This feature can only be used with an active profile.\nPlease choose a Profile first!": "",
"This key is an internal qora key and can't be edited this way!": "",
"This key is empty": "",
"This name has currently no <a href=\"\/index\/namestorage.html\">website<a\/>!": "",
"This namestorage does not contain any entries": "",
"This page is disabled for remote usage": "",
"This profile is currently disabled.": "",
"Time": "",
"Title": "",
"Title (optional)": "",
"Too many addresses!": "",
"Top %limit% %assetName% Richest": "",
"Top 100": "",
"Top 100 Richest": "",
"Top 250": "",
"Total": "",
"Total AT Amount": "",
"Total Amount": "",
"Total Fee": "",
"Total Received": "",
"Total Send": "",
"Total balance": "",
"Total coins in the system: %allTotal% %assetName%<br>minus %allinOrders% %assetName% in order = %all% %assetName%": "",
"Trade": "",
"Trades<br>Count": "",
"Transactions count": "",
"Unconfirmed": "",
"Unconfirmed Transactions": "",
"Unconfirmed transactions removed.": "",
"Unfollow": "",
"Unfollow successful": "",
"Unknown response": "",
"Upload": "",
"Upload File": "",
"Values": "",
"View": "",
"Visual editor": "",
"Votes": "",
"Wallet Synchronizing": "",
"Want": "",
"Webdirectory": "",
"Whitelist": "",
"You already like this post": "",
"You already shared this post": "",
"You are not allowed to delete this comment! You need to be the owner of the blog or author of the comment!": "",
"You are not allowed to delete this post! You need to be owner of the blog or author of the blogpost!": "",
"You can enable the blog <a href='\/index\/settings.html?profilename={{ownProfileName}}'>here<\/a>": "",
"You can enable the profile <a href='\/index\/settings.html?profilename={{ownProfileName}}'>here<\/a>": "",
"You can search Qora web using the search box below": "",
"You can't follow the Mainblog": "",
"You can't like your own posts": "",
"You can't post to this blog! None of your accounts has balance or the blog owner did not allow your accounts to post!": "",
"You did not choose a file or the file was empty!": "",
"You don't have a wallet!": "",
"You follow this blog now": "",
"You need to register a name to create a profile.": "",
"You need to register a name to create a website.": "",
"Your post was NOT successful": "",
"Your post was successful": "",
"ago": "",
"hour": "",
"hours": "",
"min": "",
"mins": "",
"secs": "",
"buy": "",
"confirmations": "",
"including total fee": "",
"isText": "",
"order": "",
"sell": "",
"the signature parameter must be set!": ""
}

Code:
=========REMOVED==========
{
" proposed by ": "",
"<html>Orders<br>Count<\/html>": "",
"<html>Trades<br>Count<\/html>": "",
"Asset:": "",
"Block height: ": "",
"Buy orders": "",
"Buyer:": "",
"Compressed:": "",
"Connecting to known peer ": "",
"Connecting to peer ": "",
"Connections: ": "",
"Data as Base58:": "",
"Data as Text:": "",
"Divisible:": "",
"Have:": "",
"New Owner:": "",
"New Value:": "",
"Option:": "",
"Options:": "",
"Payments:": "",
"Quantity:": "",
"Sell orders": "",
"Seller:": "",
"Service ID:": "",
"There are at least two entries with duplicate keys (Bad key: %key%)": "",
"Total:": "",
"Trade:": "",
"Wallet Synchronizing ": "",
"Want:": ""
}


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on May 27, 2016, 05:08:05 AM
@qora.team:

Please, is there anyway you could upload a newer data folder on http://qora.co.in ? It would save a lot of time starting up the new client.  Cheers!

 


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CptAhab on May 27, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Good work on the release team!

Can some of you devs put this on Twitter and stiff, people should know about this!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Polarhare on May 27, 2016, 10:52:45 PM
You can help by translating these files into your language:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/languages/null.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/available.json



do you need german?

if yes, there are two levels of distance of "you" in german, shortly explained: one for Robert and Sarah, the other one for Mr. and Mrs. Hill. Which one would you like me to use?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yabit on May 28, 2016, 09:49:28 AM
Up to date data folder missing (http://qora.co.in/?datafolder). I have sync problems with the latest Qora version.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on May 28, 2016, 10:27:16 AM
Get this error while syncing, it happens when data.dat.t gets merged.
Dbase gets corrupted.

Code:
2016-05-28 11:20:00 INFO  Peer:146 - Failed to connect to : /24.0.101.211
2016-05-28 11:20:01 INFO  ConnectionCreator:118 - Connecting to peer 1.9.155.24 proposed b
y 106.187.42.214 :: 1 / 20 / 20 :: Connections: 3
2016-05-28 11:20:29 INFO  Network:91 - Connection close : /188.166.53.239
Exception in thread "Thread-2423" java.io.IOError: java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelExceptio
n
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:878)
        at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.update(StoreWAL.java:382)
        at org.mapdb.Caches$HashTable.update(Caches.java:270)
        at org.mapdb.EngineWrapper.update(EngineWrapper.java:63)
        at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.put2(BTreeMap.java:707)
        at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.put(BTreeMap.java:643)
        at database.PeerMap.addPeer(PeerMap.java:445)
        at network.Pinger.run(Pinger.java:65)
Caused by: java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.ensureOpen(Unknown Source)
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.read(Unknown Source)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.readFully(Volume.java:847)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:875)
        ... 7 more
Exception in thread "Thread-2401" Exception in thread "Thread-2400" java.io.IOError: java.
nio.channels.ClosedByInterruptException
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:878)
        at org.mapdb.StoreDirect.get2(StoreDirect.java:440)
        at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get2(StoreWAL.java:336)
        at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get(StoreWAL.java:320)
        at org.mapdb.Caches$HashTable.get(Caches.java:246)
        at org.mapdb.EngineWrapper.get(EngineWrapper.java:58)
        at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.get(BTreeMap.java:602)
        at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.containsKey(BTreeMap.java:1505)
        at database.DBMap.contains(DBMap.java:238)
        at qora.BlockChain.isNewBlockValid(BlockChain.java:111)
        at controller.Controller.onMessage(Controller.java:864)
        at network.Network.onMessage(Network.java:269)
        at network.Peer.run(Peer.java:178)
Caused by: java.nio.channels.ClosedByInterruptException
        at java.nio.channels.spi.AbstractInterruptibleChannel.end(Unknown Source)
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.readInternal(Unknown Source)
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.read(Unknown Source)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.readFully(Volume.java:847)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:875)
        ... 12 more
java.io.IOError: java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:878)
        at org.mapdb.StoreDirect.get2(StoreDirect.java:440)
        at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get2(StoreWAL.java:336)
        at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.get(StoreWAL.java:320)
        at org.mapdb.Caches$HashTable.get(Caches.java:246)
        at org.mapdb.EngineWrapper.get(EngineWrapper.java:58)
        at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.get(BTreeMap.java:602)
        at org.mapdb.BTreeMap.containsKey(BTreeMap.java:1505)
        at database.DBMap.contains(DBMap.java:238)
        at qora.BlockChain.isNewBlockValid(BlockChain.java:111)
        at controller.Controller.onMessage(Controller.java:864)
        at network.Network.onMessage(Network.java:269)
        at network.Peer.run(Peer.java:178)
Caused by: java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.ensureOpen(Unknown Source)
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.read(Unknown Source)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.readFully(Volume.java:847)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:875)
        ... 12 more
Exception in thread "Thread-4" java.io.IOError: java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:878)
        at org.mapdb.StoreWAL.update(StoreWAL.java:382)
        at org.mapdb.Caches$HashTable.update(Caches.java:270)
        at org.mapdb.EngineWrapper.update(EngineWrapper.java:63)
        at org.mapdb.Atomic$Var.set(Atomic.java:687)
        at database.BlockMap.setLastBlock(BlockMap.java:130)
        at qora.block.Block.process(Block.java:775)
        at qora.block.Block.process(Block.java:705)
        at qora.Synchronizer.process(Synchronizer.java:343)
        at qora.Synchronizer.synchronize(Synchronizer.java:195)
        at controller.Controller.update(Controller.java:1024)
        at qora.BlockGenerator.run(BlockGenerator.java:178)
Caused by: java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.ensureOpen(Unknown Source)
        at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.read(Unknown Source)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.readFully(Volume.java:847)
        at org.mapdb.Volume$FileChannelVol.getLong(Volume.java:875)
        ... 11 more
2016-05-28 11:23:05 INFO  Peer:146 - Failed to connect to : /1.9.155.24
2016-05-28 11:23:05 INFO  ConnectionCreator:118 - Connecting to peer 1.9.155.191 proposed


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: qora.team on May 28, 2016, 12:46:38 PM
Up to date data folder missing (http://qora.co.in/?datafolder). I have sync problems with the latest Qora version.
Updated.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: helloge on May 28, 2016, 01:38:27 PM
Up to date data folder missing (http://qora.co.in/?datafolder). I have sync problems with the latest Qora version.
Updated.
thanks for updating.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yabit on May 28, 2016, 03:46:52 PM
Up to date data folder missing (http://qora.co.in/?datafolder). I have sync problems with the latest Qora version.
Updated.
Thank's, that was really fast !


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Polarhare on May 28, 2016, 08:50:59 PM
You can help by translating these files into your language:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/languages/null.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Qoracoin/translations/master/0.26.0/available.json



do you need german?
if yes, there are two levels of distance of "you" in german, shortly explained: one for Robert and Sarah, the other one for Mr. and Mrs. Hill. Which one would you like me to use?

is there a list with the languages that you have already?

i asked in Poloniex trollbox and found volunteers for korean, portuguese and dutch, think a list would help.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yabit on May 29, 2016, 09:05:46 AM
Closing ... (Saving database. Please wait ...) never ends. Waiting 3 hours now, cpu load 40%. Is it normal?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ttx on May 29, 2016, 11:41:17 AM
Closing ... (Saving database. Please wait ...) never ends. Waiting 3 hours now, cpu load 40%. Is it normal?
Of course this is not normal.
Go Task Manager and End Process. But because this could damage the database.

I have the same situation (Win 7 32bit, qora 0.26.0).



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yabit on May 29, 2016, 12:50:55 PM
Closing ... (Saving database. Please wait ...) never ends. Waiting 3 hours now, cpu load 40%. Is it normal?
Of course this is not normal.
Go Task Manager and End Process. But because this could damage the database.

I have the same situation (Win 7 32bit, qora 0.26.0).



OK, thank's! Restarted with latest downloaded data (Win 7 64bit, Qora 26).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GetVisaCoin on May 29, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
Up to date data folder missing (http://qora.co.in/?datafolder). I have sync problems with the latest Qora version.

A bootstrap helps adoption heaps guys! Needs to be updated regularly by trusted community member


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yabit on May 29, 2016, 02:41:30 PM
Up to date data folder missing (http://qora.co.in/?datafolder). I have sync problems with the latest Qora version.

A bootstrap helps adoption heaps guys! Needs to be updated regularly by trusted community member

That's right, but atm the client is not syncing correct, GUI freezes and not able to save database when closing, I give it up.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: esetor78 on May 29, 2016, 04:31:44 PM
this coin is dead


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yabit on May 29, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
this coin is dead

I don't think so.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Limx Dev on May 30, 2016, 10:22:39 PM
Pinned

Hello,

i tested the Win Qora wallet. The block sync over block 175K is very slow. It that normal?

Note: the Announcement link is old http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/qora/   ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: keats3 on May 31, 2016, 12:40:29 AM
Pinned

Hello,

i tested the Win Qora wallet. The block sync over block 175K is very slow. It that normal?

Note: the Announcement link is old http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/qora/   ;)

Syncing's much faster if you download the data folder containing the blockchain, unzip it and then put it in your wallet's folder before running it for the first time. The latest data folder zip is only a few days old.

http://qora.co.in/data/data_20160528_122841_220996_v0260.zip

It's also best to restore your wallet using your seed if you want the fastest sync.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on May 31, 2016, 06:53:33 AM
waiting for below 10 sat to pick up some more  :P  ;)

Preparing for a big pump to 100+ (only 679 BTC to go..lol)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: shenjing85 on May 31, 2016, 01:44:08 PM
why the price still be lower?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on May 31, 2016, 05:49:47 PM
why the price still be lower?

The really really ultra cool feature about lower price which the ultra high-price coin cannot compete with is the following: hehe - I just <3 this  :D the feature is this > the coin CANNOT go much lower hahahaha!



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Renodura on June 01, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
It's been two years since I jumped in here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337995) and now, two months outside of this project I can tell what I see.

This project was a magical journey through the world of crypto, many achievements, many ideas and most of all, faith.
But, as it happens to all the journeys, you are not always facing the good side of life.

And the bad thing with Qora is that this project is nearly dead, if it is not dead already.
Sad to see so many capabilities become useless but this is what worth's to a project without the proper environment.
And the proper environment was not established in here, no matter how hard people involved have worked.
The only interest that holders had was to just sell their stake at the highest possible price.
Sounds logic, we are living in a world full of greed, I can't see why Qora would differ from this.
This is reflected on the Top 100 list (http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?top=100), where one account (which is Poloniex) holds 56% of the total supply, making Qora vulnerable.
If you hope for the price to raise, then keep hoping.A pump and dump group may pick it up some day.
You can find the features of Qora in so many other crypto / projects right now so, don't bother your self with this shit anymore.   8)

Luckily, I experienced some great things on this journey as well.
I learned a lot for this crypto world and the most valuable was that I proved that ideas can become reality.
I met and cooperated with very talented and smart people.
I was the one of the two guys who actually did the world's first atomic cross chain transfer, writing history!  ;D
The underlying tech of Qora is really powerful, and for me, being a part of this was a big honor.

Those are what I have gathered so far in this journey.
But I had to stop to protect my self, I had to stop serving my ideas, my work, my time to a useless project, to a speechless community.
And I call the rest of the core contributors to stop contributing on Qora from now and on, in order to protect them.

A goal without a plan is just a wish and the plan that the holders are having is to sell high and buy low.That sounds like a great plan, really!  :D

Me?
As some of you have noticed, I still have my own plans.
I may clone Qora and start over ... or may not, I may trolling all day long ...or may not ... whatever.
It doesn't really matter anyway, right?

That's my - last - two cents on this

It was a pleasure...
Cheers


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on June 01, 2016, 08:04:23 PM
It's been two years since I jumped in here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337995) and now, two months outside of this project I can tell what I see.

This project was a magical journey through the world of crypto, many achievements, many ideas and most of all, faith.
But, as it happens to all the journeys, you are not always facing the good side of life.

And the bad thing with Qora is that this project is nearly dead, if it is not dead already.
Sad to see so many capabilities become useless but this is what worth's to a project without the proper environment.
And the proper environment was not established in here, no matter how hard people involved have worked.
The only interest that holders had was to just sell their stake at the highest possible price.
Sounds logic, we are living in a world full of greed, I can't see why Qora would differ from this.
This is reflected on the Top 100 list (http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?top=100), where one account (which is Poloniex) holds 56% of the total supply, making Qora vulnerable.
If you hope for the price to raise, then keep hoping.A pump and dump group may pick it up some day.
You can find the features of Qora in so many other crypto / projects right now so, don't bother your self with this shit anymore.   8)

Luckily, I experienced some great things on this journey as well.
I learned a lot for this crypto world and the most valuable was that I proved that ideas can become reality.
I met and cooperated with very talented and smart people.
I was the one of the two guys who actually did the world's first atomic cross chain transfer, writing history!  ;D
The underlying tech of Qora is really powerful, and for me, being a part of this was a big honor.

Those are what I have gathered so far in this journey.
But I had to stop to protect my self, I had to stop serving my ideas, my work, my time to a useless project, to a speechless community.
And I call the rest of the core contributors to stop contributing on Qora from now and on, in order to protect them.

A goal without a plan is just a wish and the plan that the holders are having is to sell high and buy low.That sounds like a great plan, really!  :D

Me?
As some of you have noticed, I still have my own plans.
I may clone Qora and start over ... or may not, I may trolling all day long ...or may not ... whatever.
It doesn't really matter anyway, right?

That's my - last - two cents on this

It was a pleasure...
Cheers

I am very sad about your final words! But I think you are right - without a good community the best thing cannot stay alive. BUT - what can we do? WE = the people who believe in this coin! For example me! I am in about 2 years too and I didn't sell my Qora, I have not ONE Qora at polo... I am still hoping... Am I a fool?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on June 02, 2016, 05:39:52 AM
It's been two years since I jumped in here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337995) and now, two months outside of this project I can tell what I see.

This project was a magical journey through the world of crypto, many achievements, many ideas and most of all, faith.
But, as it happens to all the journeys, you are not always facing the good side of life.

And the bad thing with Qora is that this project is nearly dead, if it is not dead already.
Sad to see so many capabilities become useless but this is what worth's to a project without the proper environment.
And the proper environment was not established in here, no matter how hard people involved have worked.
The only interest that holders had was to just sell their stake at the highest possible price.
Sounds logic, we are living in a world full of greed, I can't see why Qora would differ from this.
This is reflected on the Top 100 list (http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?top=100), where one account (which is Poloniex) holds 56% of the total supply, making Qora vulnerable.
If you hope for the price to raise, then keep hoping.A pump and dump group may pick it up some day.
You can find the features of Qora in so many other crypto / projects right now so, don't bother your self with this shit anymore.   8)

Luckily, I experienced some great things on this journey as well.
I learned a lot for this crypto world and the most valuable was that I proved that ideas can become reality.
I met and cooperated with very talented and smart people.
I was the one of the two guys who actually did the world's first atomic cross chain transfer, writing history!  ;D
The underlying tech of Qora is really powerful, and for me, being a part of this was a big honor.

Those are what I have gathered so far in this journey.
But I had to stop to protect my self, I had to stop serving my ideas, my work, my time to a useless project, to a speechless community.
And I call the rest of the core contributors to stop contributing on Qora from now and on, in order to protect them.

A goal without a plan is just a wish and the plan that the holders are having is to sell high and buy low.That sounds like a great plan, really!  :D

Me?
As some of you have noticed, I still have my own plans.
I may clone Qora and start over ... or may not, I may trolling all day long ...or may not ... whatever.
It doesn't really matter anyway, right?

That's my - last - two cents on this

It was a pleasure...
Cheers

I am very sad about your final words! But I think you are right - without a good community the best thing cannot stay alive. BUT - what can we do? WE = the people who believe in this coin! For example me! I am in about 2 years too and I didn't sell my Qora, I have not ONE Qora at polo... I am still hoping... Am I a fool?

Whatever...let it be


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on June 02, 2016, 08:24:59 AM
Me?
As some of you have noticed, I still have my own plans.
I may clone Qora and start over ... or may not, I may trolling all day long ...or may not ... whatever.
It doesn't really matter anyway, right?

No we have not noticed. How can we know what you are doing if Vrotris last post was Nov 2015 and Renodura has only 1 post!? Those who know you from Qora I think respect you as a coder and one who took Qora to where it is. So why not just tell us what you are doing, you might be surprised.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 02, 2016, 08:36:13 AM

Spend a bit of time comparing Renodura's post with Vrontis's and you will quickly realise that they are definitely not the same person. I do agree with some of the points he mentioned though  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DimkaK on June 02, 2016, 10:15:06 AM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 02, 2016, 10:23:53 AM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?

Qora will be trading above 49 sat by the end of the week. We seem to have formed strong support around 11-12 sat so the only way is up  8)
When those waiting for the price drop to below 9 sat realise that it won't happen, the FOMO will start  :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on June 02, 2016, 03:18:34 PM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?

Qora will be trading above 49 sat by the end of the week. We seem to have formed strong support around 11-12 sat so the only way is up  8)
When those waiting for the price drop to below 9 sat realise that it won't happen, the FOMO will start  :D

Haha, yea 50 sat would be a big surprise :o

I'd dish out a couple of bitcoin if this were to happen!

but not holding my breath!  :-\


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 02, 2016, 04:39:53 PM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?

Qora will be trading above 49 sat by the end of the week. We seem to have formed strong support around 11-12 sat so the only way is up  8)
When those waiting for the price drop to below 9 sat realise that it won't happen, the FOMO will start  :D

Haha, yea 50 sat would be a big surprise :o

I'd dish out a couple of bitcoin if this were to happen!

but not holding my breath!  :-\


I believe it was on its way back to 50 until bitcoin started pumping, let's wait and see  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on June 03, 2016, 05:19:34 AM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?

Qora will be trading above 49 sat by the end of the week. We seem to have formed strong support around 11-12 sat so the only way is up  8)
When those waiting for the price drop to below 9 sat realise that it won't happen, the FOMO will start  :D

Haha, yea 50 sat would be a big surprise :o

I'd dish out a couple of bitcoin if this were to happen!

but not holding my breath!  :-\


I believe it was on its way back to 50 until bitcoin started pumping, let's wait and see  ;D

Would be great to see QORA stabilized between 50-60 at least. It easily deserves this price - it would be a market cap of about 2.5-3 million USD and in the top 30 of all cryptos.  8)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vaporware asset wizard on June 03, 2016, 05:37:38 AM
The great thing about Qora is it is truly decentralised (who's actually in charge here ... nobody).

I love SuperNET but if jl777 fell under a bus SN would die in 12 hours.

Same for NXT if Jean-Luc left ... same for DASH, and LISK & WAVES etc etc

BUT, the original Qora dev left a long time ago, and the vacuum was filled by other guys, CIYAM came and did AT which made crypto history, and plenty of other guys have come and done cool things for Qora also, like Vrontis (and others I don't know, apologies), and none of them had any connection to the original Dev ... that's been going on for over 12 months now, and still Qora has supporters.

Qora is one of the 'special' coins,

Quote
Antifragility is a property of systems that increase in capability, resilience, or robustness as a result of stressors, shocks, volatility, noise, mistakes, faults, attacks, or failures.

Qora isn't going away anytime soon, the vacuum always attracts those willing to fill it. Just look at what happened to bitcoin when Satoshi left, that's when all the talent got sucked in, attracted by the potential of the 'void'. It's more difficult obviously, but I'd say Qora made it through the worst times and came out the other side stronger.

Think of it like this, nobody can tell anyone else they can't do something with Qora. That's an opportunity


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DARKHOLDER on June 03, 2016, 05:44:29 AM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?

Qora will be trading above 49 sat by the end of the week. We seem to have formed strong support around 11-12 sat so the only way is up  8)
When those waiting for the price drop to below 9 sat realise that it won't happen, the FOMO will start  :D
If there no news - price did not go up..thats the true.. You can only dream about that..


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on June 03, 2016, 07:02:03 AM
The great thing about Qora is it is truly decentralised (who's actually in charge here ... nobody).

I love SuperNET but if jl777 fell under a bus SN would die in 12 hours.

Same for NXT if Jean-Luc left ... same for DASH, and LISK & WAVES etc etc

BUT, the original Qora dev left a long time ago, and the vacuum was filled by other guys, CIYAM came and did AT which made crypto history, and plenty of other guys have come and done cool things for Qora also, like Vrontis (and others I don't know, apologies), and none of them had any connection to the original Dev ... that's been going on for over 12 months now, and still Qora has supporters.

Qora is one of the 'special' coins,

Quote
Antifragility is a property of systems that increase in capability, resilience, or robustness as a result of stressors, shocks, volatility, noise, mistakes, faults, attacks, or failures.

Qora isn't going away anytime soon, the vacuum always attracts those willing to fill it. Just look at what happened to bitcoin when Satoshi left, that's when all the talent got sucked in, attracted by the potential of the 'void'. It's more difficult obviously, but I'd say Qora made it through the worst times and came out the other side stronger.

Think of it like this, nobody can tell anyone else they can't do something with Qora. That's an opportunity

You're making good points here Vaporware, thanks. I'm gonna keep this in mind and push forward.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 03, 2016, 11:53:31 AM
What are the forecasts for the price Qora?

Qora will be trading above 49 sat by the end of the week. We seem to have formed strong support around 11-12 sat so the only way is up  8)
When those waiting for the price drop to below 9 sat realise that it won't happen, the FOMO will start  :D
If there no news - price did not go up..thats the true.. You can only dream about that..


Keep waiting for news until you get left behind  :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on June 03, 2016, 06:47:59 PM
Is there any roadmap for qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: klee on June 03, 2016, 06:56:35 PM
Is there any roadmap for qora?
Sure, 1 satoshi!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 03, 2016, 09:51:55 PM

Unfortunately although we have already created (and tested) an ACCT Bitcoin script that uses CLTV the UI side of things is what really takes quite a bit of time and we don't think that releasing an unfriendly and mostly manual implementation would be appealing to virtually anyone so the work to develop decent UI (for the Bitcoin side of things) and to improve the UI on the Qora side of things will take some time.

That being said I do think we should be able to end up with something that is user friendly and that will be very robust (an estimate at this stage is a little hard but I would certainly think that you could expect to see a release by mid-year with this functionality).


it should be anytime soon  :D

Any update on that Ian? Thank you


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on June 04, 2016, 03:20:18 AM
Any update on that Ian? Thank you

Sorry but it appears that @vbcs quit as did basically everyone else so I don't think you'll be seeing this any time soon (and maybe never on Qora).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: boomboom on June 04, 2016, 03:34:07 AM
Any update on that Ian? Thank you

Sorry but it appears that @vbcs quit as did basically everyone else so I don't think you'll be seeing this any time soon (and maybe never on Qora).


Ouch, that's more than a disappointment. Are there any devs still working on Qora? Is there anyone doing some community management?

Time for some stocktaking ... I think bag holders will be happy to donate to save Qora,


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 04, 2016, 07:05:43 AM
Any update on that Ian? Thank you

Sorry but it appears that @vbcs quit as did basically everyone else so I don't think you'll be seeing this any time soon (and maybe never on Qora).


Thank you for your reply


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on June 04, 2016, 11:38:47 AM
Time for some stocktaking ... I think bag holders will be happy to donate to save Qora,

From what I gather the whales refused to help at all (and this is why everyone left).

I am not certain about this of course (because I don't ask for any funds) but that is the vibe I got from various chats.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on June 05, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
Any update on that Ian? Thank you

Sorry but it appears that @vbcs quit as did basically everyone else so I don't think you'll be seeing this any time soon (and maybe never on Qora).


You message was the initiator for me to sell now ALL my qora. I lost a little bit money - but that's not the most sad for me... I am very, very sad because I loved this coin. I believed in it 2 years now - but no actualized website, no roadmap, no answer for questions from the devs for month now and leaving from nearly ALL devs in the last month - all these brought me to face the situation and to sell my Qora now.

@CIYAM, I paid for the asset "ATFunding". Is there anything we will get in future for this investment? Or was this only the "payment" for the AT and is finished now? I think most of the Qora from this investment was sold in the last month (when the price was high) at polo from your team...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on June 06, 2016, 02:02:21 AM
@CIYAM, I paid for the asset "ATFunding". Is there anything we will get in future for this investment? Or was this only the "payment" for the AT and is finished now? I think most of the Qora from this investment was sold in the last month (when the price was high) at polo from your team...

I had nothing to do with any Qora Asset (nor Burst one for that matter) so you'd have to contact others in regards to that (although my guess is that such Assets would have been most likely used for funding the development of AT prior to its release).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 06, 2016, 02:44:25 AM
Well, if everyone quit, don't worry, I think there's another team ready to pick up where they left off, because I myself was planning on using many things QORA had with BURST.

Regardless, this coin isn't disappearing, I can promise you that. Once BURST is done with its next releases, if it is true the QORA team decided to quit, I'll see what I can do about getting the BURST team to pick it up.

I like QORA, and I refuse to let it fail.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on June 06, 2016, 08:33:30 PM
Well, if everyone quit, don't worry, I think there's another team ready to pick up where they left off, because I myself was planning on using many things QORA had with BURST.

Regardless, this coin isn't disappearing, I can promise you that. Once BURST is done with its next releases, if it is true the QORA team decided to quit, I'll see what I can do about getting the BURST team to pick it up.

I like QORA, and I refuse to let it fail.

I'm in for the long haul. That's the beauty of QORA being open....someone drops out, another team will pick it up! Apart from recouping my initial investment of ICO, I've hodled QORA through thick and thin from 80 to 2 sat and back to 60 and now 10 sat. It's been fun to ride, we've survived through departure of the original qora dev and now second generation of devs is out. Time for third round of devs to take over and make it better than ever. Call me naive but I don't think qora will die just yet...still life in the purple Q. :)



Yea, that sounds soo cool. THere's room for a 3rd, then after those, a 4th, 5th, 6th and so on and so forth. Perfect!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Limx Dev on June 07, 2016, 06:56:26 AM
Well, if everyone quit, don't worry, I think there's another team ready to pick up where they left off, because I myself was planning on using many things QORA had with BURST.

Regardless, this coin isn't disappearing, I can promise you that. Once BURST is done with its next releases, if it is true the QORA team decided to quit, I'll see what I can do about getting the BURST team to pick it up.

I like QORA, and I refuse to let it fail.

I'm in for the long haul. That's the beauty of QORA being open....someone drops out, another team will pick it up! Apart from recouping my initial investment of ICO, I've hodled QORA through thick and thin from 80 to 2 sat and back to 60 and now 10 sat. It's been fun to ride, we've survived through departure of the original qora dev and now second generation of devs is out. Time for third round of devs to take over and make it better than ever. Call me naive but I don't think qora will die just yet...still life in the purple Q. :)



Yea, that sounds soo cool. THere's room for a 3rd, then after those, a 4th, 5th, 6th and so on and so forth. Perfect!

Yes i think but that a new wallet design important is. It is for end user to much  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: frontier8 on June 07, 2016, 07:12:24 AM
Any furture development plan for Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on June 07, 2016, 09:56:54 AM
Any furture development plan for Qora?

I would like to know that as well. I've seen rumors that a new wallet will be released so lets hope to be the best one yet. By the way, I have been away from QORA for the past month. Can somebody keep me up to date of what new things have come up for QORA by now? Sorry for asking, but it is hard to check up on all the posts made on this thread page after page since the last one I made.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SuperBURST on June 07, 2016, 11:38:40 AM
Any furture development plan for Qora?

I would like to know that as well. I've seen rumors that a new wallet will be released so lets hope to be the best one yet. By the way, I have been away from QORA for the past month. Can somebody keep me up to date of what new things have come up for QORA by now? Sorry for asking, but it is hard to check up on all the posts made on this thread page after page since the last one I made.  :)

So you had the time to signature spam threads with 2369 posts but you don't have time to read few pages?

How much do you get paid per post btw?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MoneyJ on June 07, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
I hate seeing a potential project falters. The devs had laid down the framework of qora. Please just continue improving it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwiz168 on June 07, 2016, 01:17:07 PM
A revival is not a bad thing . A much improved features and dedicated team to help Qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on June 07, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
@CIYAM, I paid for the asset "ATFunding". Is there anything we will get in future for this investment? Or was this only the "payment" for the AT and is finished now? I think most of the Qora from this investment was sold in the last month (when the price was high) at polo from your team...

I had nothing to do with any Qora Asset (nor Burst one for that matter) so you'd have to contact others in regards to that (although my guess is that such Assets would have been most likely used for funding the development of AT prior to its release).


Seems that I misunderstood some of your messages from an older  Qora topic, for example:


Quote from: CIYAM topic=522102.9800
Just posting here to confirm that assuming the "crowdfunding" for the project is a success then the AT development team (myself, vbecas and btc2nxt) will be working along with the Qora development team to integrate AT.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on June 07, 2016, 03:05:51 PM
I posted to help @vbcs to get the funding that he wanted in order to do the work (but what you have quoted confirms that the point of said Asset was "crowdfunding" in which case it has already served its purpose).

It was a long time ago (so I don't recall perfectly) but I think it was because @vbcs had a junior account on this forum that he wanted me to make that post (to confirm that he was the person working on AT and note that the third person mentioned actually never did any work on the Qora or Burst versions).

I didn't create that Asset (nor any other) and don't even have a clue how much was raised and who received what in terms of payments (but I am pretty certain that @vbcs created the Asset in question).

What I can say with certainty is that I received NOTHING financially (and in fact nothing much else other than stress and hassles).

(I've had enough of the Nxt "community" trying to accuse me of bullshit - I hope the same rubbish isn't about to happen here)

It is the "attack the devs" sort of mentality which is what drives them away (apart from those that are actually scammers who sucker people in and don't actually deliver shit).

Also - AT would have been live first on Qora except for the original dev left before we had got halfway through the development (so it went live first on Burst instead).

If you have a problem with @vbcs then I suggest you contact him about that (he no longer is in contact with me so I can't help you that).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on June 07, 2016, 03:26:51 PM
Anyone know any devs that want to take over QORA project? The community now appears very fragmented so doubt any funds could be raised. But maybe some devs might consider taking on the project as a hobby.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on June 07, 2016, 03:32:36 PM
Unfortunately as even unpaid devs such as myself get "attacked" by those upset that they didn't "get rich quick" I wouldn't recommend a single one to ever work on this or any other such project (only perhaps Bitcoin/Litecoin and even then to be careful as other devs there might *use* your work and not pay you as I experienced myself which is what drove me to create AT in the first place).

To a fair extent I think this is why the original Qora dev disappeared (and the same thing in Burst).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: xyz on June 07, 2016, 03:59:26 PM
Unfortunately as even unpaid devs such as myself get "attacked" by those upset that they didn't "get rich quick" I wouldn't recommend a single one to ever work on this or any other such project (only perhaps Bitcoin/Litecoin and even then to be careful as other devs there might *use* your work and not pay you as I experienced myself which is what drove me to create AT in the first place).

To a fair extent I think this is why the original Qora dev disappeared (and the same thing in Burst).

A very sad message...

I am not ever "lucky" with your statements... . but I appreciate very much that you ever give an answer!
Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CIYAM on June 07, 2016, 04:10:21 PM
Let me try and explain things a little better as perhaps some of my personal disappointments in these past few years tend to impact upon my posts (once you've been hounded like I have been you might also become a little bitter).

Typically software developers that work for commercial software companies (and I was such a developer for many years) are kept insulated from the financial side of said companies and even generally from the clients (I rarely ever took a support call in over 15 years of such professional work and didn't even have much email correspondence with any "end users").

As the average software developer is more of an introvert they tend to work best kept in small teams with others similar to themselves (and this is the environment they mostly prefer to be working in and the model that most successful software development companies use).

The open source movement has a bit of a different dynamic but it isn't even nearly as confused with funding dynamics as projects in this particular field have become (where investment/crowdfunding/ICO's and developers/salespeople/scammers have all become a bit of a blur).

Basically this has resulted in (genuine) developers being forced into an uncomfortable (for them) "spotlight" that includes direct contact with people who often don't even understand software development at all (but are always happy to criticise).

I used to think that the idea of having less layers was a good thing but when it comes to software development itself now I am not so sure at all (as the team of relatively unknown devs that are well looked after and insulated from the outside works better IMO).

So for a way "forward" I would suggest that devs should be managed by a development management team (maybe just one or two people can do that) whose job it is to keep the devs insulated from the outside (so they can do productive development work without the unwanted attention and pressure).


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Abiky on June 07, 2016, 05:10:45 PM
Any furture development plan for Qora?

I would like to know that as well. I've seen rumors that a new wallet will be released so lets hope to be the best one yet. By the way, I have been away from QORA for the past month. Can somebody keep me up to date of what new things have come up for QORA by now? Sorry for asking, but it is hard to check up on all the posts made on this thread page after page since the last one I made.  :)

So you had the time to signature spam threads with 2369 posts but you don't have time to read few pages?

How much do you get paid per post btw?

It is not that my friend. Of course I've read plenty about Qora but I have been working on some college stuff too so it has been very difficult for me to keep up to date with the latest in crypto currencies. I also own a lot of cryptos myself so that makes it even harder to stay up to date with all of them. As you may know, I am not in the signature campaign to spam threads for the earnings. You can check out my profile to see my posts in which the same are excellent quality constructive posts. Thanks to the signature campaign, I have learned a lot about Bitcoin and other alt coins too because it had enabled me to explore the forums and research more about each of the different currencies.  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on June 07, 2016, 06:50:24 PM

Yes i think but that a new wallet design important is. It is for end user to much  ;D


EeHhh yeahh, da EndUsA - hehe, he find wallet its be eazy then it workz good.  ;)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 08, 2016, 07:29:35 AM
Let me try and explain things a little better as perhaps some of my personal disappointments in these past few years tend to impact upon my posts (once you've been hounded like I have been you might also become a little bitter).

Typically software developers that work for commercial software companies (and I was such a developer for many years) are kept insulated from the financial side of said companies and even generally from the clients (I rarely ever took a support call in over 15 years of such professional work and didn't even have much email correspondence with any "end users").

As the average software developer is more of an introvert they tend to work best kept in small teams with others similar to themselves (and this is the environment they mostly prefer to be working in and the model that most successful software development companies use).

The open source movement has a bit of a different dynamic but it isn't even nearly as confused with funding dynamics as projects in this particular field have become (where investment/crowdfunding/ICO's and developers/salespeople/scammers have all become a bit of a blur).

Basically this has resulted in (genuine) developers being forced into an uncomfortable (for them) "spotlight" that includes direct contact with people who often don't even understand software development at all (but are always happy to criticise).

I used to think that the idea of having less layers was a good thing but when it comes to software development itself now I am not so sure at all (as the team of relatively unknown devs that are well looked after and insulated from the outside works better IMO).

So for a way "forward" I would suggest that devs should be managed by a development management team (maybe just one or two people can do that) whose job it is to keep the devs insulated from the outside (so they can do productive development work without the unwanted attention and pressure).


This is exactly the model that BURST has now adopted, with a person such as myself who doesn't mind being in the public eye, handling all of the public announcements, etc. Then the devs doing what they do best, and developing.

I have already spoken to vbcs and invited him to join our team, with BURST and our new core dev, and the rest of the ever-growing and stronger now than ever, BURST development team. Along with more I will be announcing on Friday in the BURST thread.

I believe we've got the structure now, to make this very successful, and I think that with this structure with our team, things are going to go very smoothly, and get accomplished in a much quicker fashion. You'll be seeing quite a bit happening here soon with BURST, and I credit that almost solely to the restructure of the team, and setting places like this that everyone is comfortable with.

I've been appointed leader, as I write fairly well, and don't mind doing videos and promotional tools, etc. I also don't mind being interviewed, and I do well in those type of situations. I'm great at announcing projects, and my energy and excitement comes through nicely.

If you're interested to see what BURST is doing, make sure to drop by the BURST thread on Friday, and see what is coming about there. I for one, think it will be some very exciting stuff for the community to see.

If it is cool with the QORA team, I would absolutely love to take on their devs, and keep this project moving forward. Especially since BURST is basically a cousin to QORA, being able to do ACCT transactions with each other, thanks to the wonderful tech developed by our friend CIYAM here.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts on this matter. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on June 08, 2016, 06:55:58 PM

^ What are we waiting for - let's appoint Crow as family development manager. Crow's attitude in this matter is beautiful and the invitation is open!!




Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ca333 on June 08, 2016, 09:21:50 PM
...
So for a way "forward" I would suggest that devs should be managed by a development management team (maybe just one or two people can do that) whose job it is to keep the devs insulated from the outside (so they can do productive development work without the unwanted attention and pressure).


good input ciyam. very good. this is what really successfull projects have (need) as base. because (most) developers are not the types of people to handle too much "social"-stress and pressure... differentiation of labour / division of responsibilities is the key to success..


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kennyP on June 09, 2016, 12:35:40 AM

^ What are we waiting for - let's appoint Crow as family development manager. Crow's attitude in this matter is beautiful and the invitation is open!!




+1
crowetic has what Qora needs, and what might keep CIYAM in the community. Let's do it!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 10, 2016, 12:14:56 AM

^ What are we waiting for - let's appoint Crow as family development manager. Crow's attitude in this matter is beautiful and the invitation is open!!




+1
crowetic has what Qora needs, and what might keep CIYAM in the community. Let's do it!!


Thanks everyone, after the CF I did to give vbcs some payment for his work, he joined into our team's chat, and we've been in communication. I'll stay in communication with him, and I'll stay active here.

I am here for QORA, and as soon as we get the next few public things we're planning with BURST done, I'll focus more on this side of things.

I truly appreciate the vote of confidence! Let me know if you need anything, and as soon as I can get communications continued with vbcs, I'll talk with him and see how things go.

I'm here for you, QORA community, let's do this!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: KLONE on June 10, 2016, 01:53:01 AM
Thanks everyone, after the CF I did to give vbcs some payment for his work, he joined into our team's chat, and we've been in communication. I'll stay in communication with him, and I'll stay active here.

I am here for QORA, and as soon as we get the next few public things we're planning with BURST done, I'll focus more on this side of things.

I truly appreciate the vote of confidence! Let me know if you need anything, and as soon as I can get communications continued with vbcs, I'll talk with him and see how things go.

I'm here for you, QORA community, let's do this!

@crowetic, That's the best news Qora has had in a long while , thank you very much!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GetVisaCoin on June 12, 2016, 10:56:34 AM

^ What are we waiting for - let's appoint Crow as family development manager. Crow's attitude in this matter is beautiful and the invitation is open!!




+1
crowetic has what Qora needs, and what might keep CIYAM in the community. Let's do it!!


Thanks everyone, after the CF I did to give vbcs some payment for his work, he joined into our team's chat, and we've been in communication. I'll stay in communication with him, and I'll stay active here.

I am here for QORA, and as soon as we get the next few public things we're planning with BURST done, I'll focus more on this side of things.

I truly appreciate the vote of confidence! Let me know if you need anything, and as soon as I can get communications continued with vbcs, I'll talk with him and see how things go.

I'm here for you, QORA community, let's do this!

Good community management is what Qora needs the most, and some solid funding to pay devs, so well done crowetic :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: GetVisaCoin on June 12, 2016, 11:03:54 AM
Let me try and explain things a little better as perhaps some of my personal disappointments in these past few years tend to impact upon my posts (once you've been hounded like I have been you might also become a little bitter).

Typically software developers that work for commercial software companies (and I was such a developer for many years) are kept insulated from the financial side of said companies and even generally from the clients (I rarely ever took a support call in over 15 years of such professional work and didn't even have much email correspondence with any "end users").

As the average software developer is more of an introvert they tend to work best kept in small teams with others similar to themselves (and this is the environment they mostly prefer to be working in and the model that most successful software development companies use).

The open source movement has a bit of a different dynamic but it isn't even nearly as confused with funding dynamics as projects in this particular field have become (where investment/crowdfunding/ICO's and developers/salespeople/scammers have all become a bit of a blur).

Basically this has resulted in (genuine) developers being forced into an uncomfortable (for them) "spotlight" that includes direct contact with people who often don't even understand software development at all (but are always happy to criticise).

I used to think that the idea of having less layers was a good thing but when it comes to software development itself now I am not so sure at all (as the team of relatively unknown devs that are well looked after and insulated from the outside works better IMO).

So for a way "forward" I would suggest that devs should be managed by a development management team (maybe just one or two people can do that) whose job it is to keep the devs insulated from the outside (so they can do productive development work without the unwanted attention and pressure).


Thanks for this post CIYAM! Many in the crypto community don't know or consider this aspect of crypto, they're just here for the trading game, and forget that the whole point of this is making software. I fear without a community manager to hold things together and lubricate communication & funding channels we're in danger of killing the proverbial goose that lays the golden egg. In retrospect the community should have tried harder to encourage the original Qora dev to appoint a community manager before he burnt out. We shouldn't make the same mistake twice!!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Xosihc on June 16, 2016, 07:25:11 PM
Can someone give an outsider who's looking to pick up some QORA a few updates on what has been going on and what's ahead for the development? Basically like a quick snapshot of the current state of QORA. Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 17, 2016, 05:01:47 AM
Can someone give an outsider who's looking to pick up some QORA a few updates on what has been going on and what's ahead for the development? Basically like a quick snapshot of the current state of QORA. Thanks!

QORA is an extremely technologically advanced coin, capable of decentralized web hosting, and carrying within it, a decentralized social network, asset exchange, Automated Transactions capable of building applications on the chain, and more... It was built from the ground up not cloned from any other coin.

The coin was run by a staff of very proficient developers who got the coin to an extremely high level of technical prowess, but unfortunately didn't carry with them the gumption for doing the public side of what is necessary in a coin to make it gain traction and popularity. Thus, the coin got so far, then was not taken as far as it could have been, due to this noted issue.

What is going on now, is the network isn't as strong as it deserves to be, and thus, the coin will be undergoing some managerial changes, and coming together with some people willing to help it along the way, believing wholeheartedly in the underlying technical architecture the coin brings to the table.

I will not say much more than this at the current time, but do know that I'm in talks with the remaining QORA developers, and more people to begin the structure of what this coin will become in the future.

Stay tuned. ;) Thanks!



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 4emily on June 17, 2016, 07:31:55 PM
Thanks crowetic for update. Encouraging  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Limx Dev on June 17, 2016, 07:57:22 PM
Can someone give an outsider who's looking to pick up some QORA a few updates on what has been going on and what's ahead for the development? Basically like a quick snapshot of the current state of QORA. Thanks!

QORA is an extremely technologically advanced coin, capable of decentralized web hosting, and carrying within it, a decentralized social network, asset exchange, Automated Transactions capable of building applications on the chain, and more... It was built from the ground up not cloned from any other coin.

The coin was run by a staff of very proficient developers who got the coin to an extremely high level of technical prowess, but unfortunately didn't carry with them the gumption for doing the public side of what is necessary in a coin to make it gain traction and popularity. Thus, the coin got so far, then was not taken as far as it could have been, due to this noted issue.

What is going on now, is the network isn't as strong as it deserves to be, and thus, the coin will be undergoing some managerial changes, and coming together with some people willing to help it along the way, believing wholeheartedly in the underlying technical architecture the coin brings to the table.

I will not say much more than this at the current time, but do know that I'm in talks with the remaining QORA developers, and more people to begin the structure of what this coin will become in the future.

Stay tuned. ;) Thanks!



Great posting @crowetic. Stay long  8)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Tuck Fheman on June 19, 2016, 10:31:28 PM
Perhaps a Qora Rep should consider joining www.steemit.com and crowdfund there. There have been some very successful crowdfunds so far with nothing more than a well written post.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dailycoin on June 20, 2016, 01:12:05 AM
Qora 2.0 traded on CCEDK in Qora-CNY https://www.ccedk.com/qora-cny Good time to buy instant order available! L@@k at this http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q751/mihai81leu/qoa_zpsbsx7fcwj.jpg 1 month price chart of QORA in poloniex.com. I can see the price up !!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Limx Dev on June 20, 2016, 10:25:36 AM
Qora 2.0 traded on CCEDK in Qora-CNY https://www.ccedk.com/qora-cny Good time to buy instant order available! L@@k at this http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q751/mihai81leu/qoa_zpsbsx7fcwj.jpg 1 month price chart of QORA in poloniex.com. I can see the price up !!!

Good news for Qora


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: nopoliticalmoney on June 21, 2016, 12:39:47 AM
Link windows wallet doesn't work


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kjadB on June 21, 2016, 01:11:11 AM
Can someone give an outsider who's looking to pick up some QORA a few updates on what has been going on and what's ahead for the development? Basically like a quick snapshot of the current state of QORA. Thanks!

QORA is an extremely technologically advanced coin, capable of decentralized web hosting, and carrying within it, a decentralized social network, asset exchange, Automated Transactions capable of building applications on the chain, and more... It was built from the ground up not cloned from any other coin.

The coin was run by a staff of very proficient developers who got the coin to an extremely high level of technical prowess, but unfortunately didn't carry with them the gumption for doing the public side of what is necessary in a coin to make it gain traction and popularity. Thus, the coin got so far, then was not taken as far as it could have been, due to this noted issue.

What is going on now, is the network isn't as strong as it deserves to be, and thus, the coin will be undergoing some managerial changes, and coming together with some people willing to help it along the way, believing wholeheartedly in the underlying technical architecture the coin brings to the table.

I will not say much more than this at the current time, but do know that I'm in talks with the remaining QORA developers, and more people to begin the structure of what this coin will become in the future.

Stay tuned. ;) Thanks!



Awesome, I'm buying more cheap Qora!!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 21, 2016, 02:09:24 AM
Link windows wallet doesn't work

For now I don't have control over these aspects, and I'm still working out details with the new forming team, etc.

But know that things will begin to show change coming soon.



I am not going to make promises right now, but I can see plenty of options in the near future as far as a direction for the coin.




I would like to ask this... What is everyone's opinion on PoS as a whole?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 21, 2016, 02:30:35 AM
Looks like now is a very good time to buy some Qora.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on June 21, 2016, 04:12:22 AM
@crowetic  I generally like POS but don't have enough code and security knowledge to comment authoritatively on Pos as a whole. It would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts.

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I've seen something interesting on the charts: Look June 17 and 18 (on polo) and you'll notice an identical double doji bottom tweezer Isn't that just really interesting eh? Maybe some technical analyst can elaborate on the meaning of this (if it does have special significance which I believe it does).

Edit: lol I just had another look and there is actually a couple of these 'identical doji's' in the past month. haha  :D just another one I guess.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: HerCule on June 22, 2016, 06:53:18 AM
Bought in. Let the rise begin  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tuvok007 on June 22, 2016, 05:29:17 PM
Pump is on the way.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 23, 2016, 04:23:41 AM
@crowetic  I generally like POS but don't have enough code and security knowledge to comment authoritatively on Pos as a whole. It would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts.

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I've seen something interesting on the charts: Look June 17 and 18 (on polo) and you'll notice an identical double doji bottom tweezer Isn't that just really interesting eh? Maybe some technical analyst can elaborate on the meaning of this (if it does have special significance which I believe it does).

Edit: lol I just had another look and there is actually a couple of these 'identical doji's' in the past month. haha  :D just another one I guess.


The reason I ask, is that one of the talks we're having right now, involves putting a different algo into QORA. One that is totally innovative.

Main reasoning here, is that it seems the QORA network is not nearly as large as it should be, and this could totally revitalize it. That plus all of the other awesome features that exist.

I'll post again soon with an idea for my overall plan, once I've gotten it approved by the other key people. Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Breasal on June 23, 2016, 04:21:04 PM
@crowetic  I generally like POS but don't have enough code and security knowledge to comment authoritatively on Pos as a whole. It would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts.

------------------

I've seen something interesting on the charts: Look June 17 and 18 (on polo) and you'll notice an identical double doji bottom tweezer Isn't that just really interesting eh? Maybe some technical analyst can elaborate on the meaning of this (if it does have special significance which I believe it does).

Edit: lol I just had another look and there is actually a couple of these 'identical doji's' in the past month. haha  :D just another one I guess.


The reason I ask, is that one of the talks we're having right now, involves putting a different algo into QORA. One that is totally innovative.

Main reasoning here, is that it seems the QORA network is not nearly as large as it should be, and this could totally revitalize it. That plus all of the other awesome features that exist.

I'll post again soon with an idea for my overall plan, once I've gotten it approved by the other key people. Thanks!



If you change the algo, why not just fork qora? Probably be better to build a stronger community from scratch compared to what exists here.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on June 24, 2016, 03:11:58 AM
@crowetic  I generally like POS but don't have enough code and security knowledge to comment authoritatively on Pos as a whole. It would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts.

------------------

I've seen something interesting on the charts: Look June 17 and 18 (on polo) and you'll notice an identical double doji bottom tweezer Isn't that just really interesting eh? Maybe some technical analyst can elaborate on the meaning of this (if it does have special significance which I believe it does).

Edit: lol I just had another look and there is actually a couple of these 'identical doji's' in the past month. haha  :D just another one I guess.


The reason I ask, is that one of the talks we're having right now, involves putting a different algo into QORA. One that is totally innovative.

Main reasoning here, is that it seems the QORA network is not nearly as large as it should be, and this could totally revitalize it. That plus all of the other awesome features that exist.

I'll post again soon with an idea for my overall plan, once I've gotten it approved by the other key people. Thanks!



If you change the algo, why not just fork qora? Probably be better to build a stronger community from scratch compared to what exists here.

That's one of the ideas, but if something isn't done with the existing project, it will surely die, so we have an idea for that, but it definitely would involve a hard fork for the coin,  but it would implement a completely new idea that is not something that exists currently. I believe it would be something to truly put QORA in the news.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tetra on June 27, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Hello,

is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rlh on June 27, 2016, 12:54:45 PM
Hello,

is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?
Hello,

is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?

No... because a voting system has been in place for years. :D

Qora has had voting for a long time and, if I recall correctly, was one of the first couple of features added after it's initial release.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on June 27, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?

No... because a voting system has been in place for years. :D

Qora has had voting for a long time and, if I recall correctly, was one of the first couple of features added after it's initial release.

Although, to clarify, it's not one vote per user.  It's more akin to a stakeholder vote.  Those with a larger stake have a larger say in the outcome.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Polarhare on June 28, 2016, 02:41:05 PM
put me in for an elaborated german translation. I'd be happy to help. Iranian, French & Japanese amongst my friends too, a lot of languages should do well for a growing user base.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on June 29, 2016, 04:53:31 AM
We need to become more active in our social media. Twitter, Facebook, Reddit marketing as well as whats going on transparently.The devs who left and the new team that will take over. A good community manager would be highly helpful.
Good luck. Exciting times ahead.  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tetra on June 29, 2016, 08:56:50 AM
is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?

No... because a voting system has been in place for years. :D

Qora has had voting for a long time and, if I recall correctly, was one of the first couple of features added after it's initial release.

Although, to clarify, it's not one vote per user.  It's more akin to a stakeholder vote.  Those with a larger stake have a larger say in the outcome.

Then that's exactly what I don't need. I need a blockchain which has the possibility of a separated voting system on top as I want to work with it in a political project. Oligarchy won't work :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: freigeist on June 29, 2016, 07:21:27 PM
is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?

No... because a voting system has been in place for years. :D

Qora has had voting for a long time and, if I recall correctly, was one of the first couple of features added after it's initial release.

Although, to clarify, it's not one vote per user.  It's more akin to a stakeholder vote.  Those with a larger stake have a larger say in the outcome.

Then that's exactly what I don't need. I need a blockchain which has the possibility of a separated voting system on top as I want to work with it in a political project. Oligarchy won't work :)


I think you could use qora or any other crypto coin that can store data in blockchain by building an app
that uses the block chain. To have a political voting you will have register every voter on the block chain
with some verified document like ID card or passport.
then after the voters have been registered you could distribute a tokens or coins to the voters
so that they could vote by sending a message to a particular address which could be used to
count the votes for particular option(selection) in the voting process.

I hope you understood :)
Bye.






Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rlh on June 30, 2016, 10:58:17 AM
is there a voting system planned for this coin, that lets you create polls and determines theres only one vote per user?

No... because a voting system has been in place for years. :D

Qora has had voting for a long time and, if I recall correctly, was one of the first couple of features added after it's initial release.

Although, to clarify, it's not one vote per user.  It's more akin to a stakeholder vote.  Those with a larger stake have a larger say in the outcome.

Then that's exactly what I don't need. I need a blockchain which has the possibility of a separated voting system on top as I want to work with it in a political project. Oligarchy won't work :)


I think you could use qora or any other crypto coin that can store data in blockchain by building an app
that uses the block chain. To have a political voting you will have register every voter on the block chain
with some verified document like ID card or passport.
then after the voters have been registered you could distribute a tokens or coins to the voters
so that they could vote by sending a message to a particular address which could be used to
count the votes for particular option(selection) in the voting process.

I hope you understood :)
Bye.






To be clear, any voting scheme will not work if it is based off of the idea of one-vote-per-account.  The "wealthy" can, and will, always create as many accounts as they desire to sway the vote as they see fit.

This is why all coins with voting mechanisms weight voting by the size of the account.  There is no reason so split up your account.  If you own 10% of Qora, you own 10% of the vote.

The only way around this limitation is to create a system where you (the initiator or the vote) can create the voting accounts, assign them to users and verify that users are not taking multiple accounts, for multiple votes.

That's hard to do in crypto because a large part of these token-systems is to provide anonymity and if there is anonymity, you can't prove if people are creating sockpuppet accounts.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: frobley on July 01, 2016, 12:45:18 AM
seriously 1 address holds more than 56% of Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DARKHOLDER on July 01, 2016, 12:02:57 PM
seriously 1 address holds more than 56% of Qora?
where You see that information??
 can show the link? :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on July 01, 2016, 01:30:35 PM
seriously 1 address holds more than 56% of Qora?
where You see that information??
 can show the link? :)

I would assume that's the users storing their funds on an exchange.  Most likely Poloniex.  CCEDK doesn't seem to get the same volume and most users decided that Bter were pretty scummy in the end and stopped using them.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rlh on July 01, 2016, 07:47:59 PM
I can't say for sure but for most of the time I've been around Qora, Polo has had the largest wallet.  I've not paid attention in a while, but I'm sure it's them.

You can find the list of largest accounts here:

http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?top=100


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on July 02, 2016, 12:26:43 AM
@ crowetic   Looking forward to see the overall plan if approved.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ben99 on July 04, 2016, 11:34:37 PM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rich93 on July 05, 2016, 01:03:07 AM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)

Are either of these links what you wanted?

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.26.0/Qora_v0.26.0.zip

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.26.0/Qora_v0.26.0.exe

They are for the last version which was v0.26.0.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: templebar on July 05, 2016, 06:20:20 AM
seriously 1 address holds more than 56% of Qora?
Lots of people are trusting polo with their coins...


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 1btcdream on July 05, 2016, 06:28:30 AM
seriously 1 address holds more than 56% of Qora?
Lots of people are trusting polo with their coins...

It's because Poloniex one of the most trusted and reliable exchange currently but nothing is forever.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on July 05, 2016, 01:09:05 PM
Incoming Pump to 100 sats, when news comes.;P

Qora sell walls getting eaten already  :o


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wosch76 on July 05, 2016, 04:18:03 PM
Incoming Pump to 100 sats, when news comes.;P

Qora sell walls getting eaten already  :o
what news do you refer to?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wizzardTim on July 05, 2016, 05:02:37 PM
Indeed it started rising. So will there be news?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on July 05, 2016, 05:43:00 PM
Indeed it started rising. So will there be news?

The 24 hour volume on poloniex is 206 Bitcoins. There must be some news that started people buying but I can't find any. The last posts of the Qora devs and the burst dev don't mention any news. CIYAM was explaining the Qora AT system in the technical section, but that's all I could find.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jwinterm on July 05, 2016, 06:00:01 PM
Indeed it started rising. So will there be news?

The 24 hour volume on poloniex is 206 Bitcoins. There must be some news that started people buying but I can't find any. The last posts of the Qora devs and the burst dev don't mention any news. CIYAM was explaining the Qora AT system in the technical section, but that's all I could find.

Nah, all kinds of random shit pumping on polo atm: emc2, noble, mint, etc.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ben99 on July 06, 2016, 01:25:22 AM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)

Are either of these links what you wanted?

https[Suspicious link removed]

They are for the last version which was v0.26.0.


this link did not work bro 404 page not found, the exe link https[Suspicious link removed]

is there any other link?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: alittle on July 06, 2016, 11:46:24 AM
Seems like the qora network stacking right now ???

Last processed block: 242490 (2016-07-05 10:19:06 UTC, 25 hours 12 mins 22 secs ago)

from here --> http://qora.co.in:9090/index/blockexplorer.html?block=242490
 


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: wildduck on July 07, 2016, 09:14:07 AM
What is going on with qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 4emily on July 07, 2016, 03:39:38 PM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)

Are either of these links what you wanted?

https[Suspicious link removed]

They are for the last version which was v0.26.0.


this link did not work bro 404 page not found, the exe link https[Suspicious link removed]

is there any other link?

Unfortunately not atm

Anyone-else having trouble syncing their wallet?

I can't get any connections  ???


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on July 07, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
Indeed it started rising. So will there be news?

The 24 hour volume on poloniex is 206 Bitcoins. There must be some news that started people buying but I can't find any. The last posts of the Qora devs and the burst dev don't mention any news. CIYAM was explaining the Qora AT system in the technical section, but that's all I could find.

I'm just waiting patiently for news. No rush here.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: alittle on July 07, 2016, 05:53:09 PM

Unfortunately not atm

Anyone-else having trouble syncing their wallet?

I can't get any connections  ???

Actually now Qora network and wallet works fine for me.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: 4emily on July 07, 2016, 07:29:59 PM

Unfortunately not atm

Anyone-else having trouble syncing their wallet?

I can't get any connections  ???

Actually now Qora network and wallet works fine for me.



ok, so it must be a problem with my wallet. I guess I'll have to reinstall :(


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: rich93 on July 08, 2016, 04:04:27 PM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)

Are either of these links what you wanted?

https[Suspicious link removed]

They are for the last version which was v0.26.0.


this link did not work bro 404 page not found, the exe link https[Suspicious link removed]

is there any other link?

The zip file link I posted works, I tested it and it works for me.

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.26.0/Qora_v0.26.0.zip

The exe file link I posted doesn't work, I tested it and received a 404 page not found.

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.26.0/Qora_v0.26.0.exe

Sorry, I should have tested both links before posting them, I assumed they both work when only one of them works.

You can install the wallet with the zip file.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ben99 on July 09, 2016, 07:13:18 AM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)

Are either of these links what you wanted?

https[Suspicious link removed]

They are for the last version which was v0.26.0.


this link did not work bro 404 page not found, the exe link https[Suspicious link removed]

is there any other link?


The zip file link I posted works, I tested it and it works for me.

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.26.0/Qora_v0.26.0.zip

The exe file link I posted doesn't work, I tested it and received a 404 page not found.

https[Suspicious link removed]

Sorry, I should have tested both links before posting them, I assumed they both work when only one of them works.

You can install the wallet with the zip file.



Thanks for the answer bro , but i can't install the zip file too, maybe Qora devs will re-upload a new trusted link , thank you again


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Skerberus on July 09, 2016, 04:06:23 PM
Hey Guys ,

i would like to download the last version of qora wallet , did not the right link , can any body please give me the link to download the 2.6 version and thank you  ;)

Are either of these links what you wanted?

https[Suspicious link removed]

They are for the last version which was v0.26.0.


this link did not work bro 404 page not found, the exe link https[Suspicious link removed]

is there any other link?


The zip file link I posted works, I tested it and it works for me.

https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/download/0.26.0/Qora_v0.26.0.zip

The exe file link I posted doesn't work, I tested it and received a 404 page not found.

https[Suspicious link removed]

Sorry, I should have tested both links before posting them, I assumed they both work when only one of them works.

You can install the wallet with the zip file.



Thanks for the answer bro , but i can't install the zip file too, maybe Qora devs will re-upload a new trusted link , thank you again

Link for *.exe fixed! You can get it here again https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases/tag/0.26.0


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SimkoMiner on July 11, 2016, 04:09:14 AM
Why on Poloniex withdrawals and deposits are disabled?  ???


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: lovewiki on July 12, 2016, 04:16:37 PM
Incoming Pump to 100 sats, when news comes.;P

Qora sell walls getting eaten already  :o


The problem is... still no news coming.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on July 12, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
Obviously in accumulation stage.....whales loading under 10 sats
Big news in a few days/weeks= MegaPump


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: OrgiOrg on July 13, 2016, 05:50:08 PM
Why on Poloniex withdrawals and deposits are disabled?  ???

that's the answer from POLO: It is currently not available because it needs maintenance. As soon as that is done it will be up again. I am afraid that I can't give you an ETA on that.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: hala on July 22, 2016, 06:09:12 AM

when will QORA start QORA 2.0 ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: gogle on July 22, 2016, 06:53:15 AM

when will QORA start QORA 2.0 ?
wheres the link


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DimkaK on July 23, 2016, 07:09:59 AM
Seems like QORA downtrend is starting to reverse.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Enema on July 23, 2016, 04:44:35 PM
Seems like QORA downtrend is starting to reverse.
I say bulltrap.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on July 28, 2016, 09:15:43 PM
Seems like QORA downtrend is starting to reverse.
I say bulltrap.

lol the bull hasn't really started has it? (Call it miniature bull maybe   :)) Interesting though, the identical double doji bottom tweezer on 17-18 June haven't been tested (yet?).  It seems 7 sat is key here.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 01, 2016, 07:55:00 AM
looks like QORA is dead....any devs working on this or what

Might be delisted from POLO soon


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Cryptonitex on August 01, 2016, 08:26:19 AM
So many cryptocurrencies start up, people invest and then it dies out after a while.
World is harsh.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: androidlai on August 01, 2016, 10:11:48 AM
looks like QORA is dead....any devs working on this or what

Might be delisted from POLO soon


Check the last couple of pages here and you will know Qora is not dead yet.

There is also no sign it will be delisted soon. Trading on Polo is normal. No need to panic.

I agree that price is not good, though.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on August 02, 2016, 05:19:39 AM

On polo charts if you click '1 day' candlesticks and zoom out to 'all' you will be looking at a volume chart. It's difficult to see any price movement. The only thing that stands out is spike in April. Maybe we will see another spike sometime.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: yns1971 on August 02, 2016, 08:58:25 AM
Qora is not dead, qora.co.in is dead


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: MikeMike on August 02, 2016, 04:48:11 PM
How many total QORA coins are in existence?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: NASdaq on August 03, 2016, 10:45:48 AM
How many total QORA coins are in existence?


10 Billion coins (10 000 000 000)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 05, 2016, 11:06:08 PM
I will be announcing our push to the future later on tonight.

I just got back from a vacation, and looking to start really doing more with QORA.

We plan to announce a large Qrowdfunding campaign in order to get the suggestions from the community in terms of donated coin, as far as which section of focus we should go for first.

After the completion of this attempt, we will have a better idea of what the community sees as important for focus in the coming weeks.


We also have a new idea for the coin itself, which will be announced upon the completion of the Qrowdfunds.


Thank you, and no, QORA is most certainly not dead, we're here to bring life back to this awesome project. Stay tuned!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 05, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
Qora is not dead, qora.co.in is dead

Any idea who the owner of this domain was? I will reach out to the insider contacts I have as well, but it would be nice to know, I will purchase the domain and put everything back up, along with new things as developed. Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 05, 2016, 11:11:01 PM
I will be announcing our push to the future later on tonight.

I just got back from a vacation, and looking to start really doing more with QORA.

We plan to announce a large Qrowdfunding campaign in order to get the suggestions from the community in terms of donated coin, as far as which section of focus we should go for first.

After the completion of this attempt, we will have a better idea of what the community sees as important for focus in the coming weeks.


We also have a new idea for the coin itself, which will be announced upon the completion of the Qrowdfunds.


Thank you, and no, QORA is most certainly not dead, we're here to bring life back to this awesome project. Stay tuned!

Great ti hear this update....I also heard the BURST/QORA partnership...and sorry for raging earlier.

So what is this Qrowdfunding campaign.
I would love to see QORA being active in Social media and other sites.


Good Luck QORA . :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 05, 2016, 11:29:33 PM
I will be announcing our push to the future later on tonight.

I just got back from a vacation, and looking to start really doing more with QORA.

We plan to announce a large Qrowdfunding campaign in order to get the suggestions from the community in terms of donated coin, as far as which section of focus we should go for first.

After the completion of this attempt, we will have a better idea of what the community sees as important for focus in the coming weeks.


We also have a new idea for the coin itself, which will be announced upon the completion of the Qrowdfunds.


Thank you, and no, QORA is most certainly not dead, we're here to bring life back to this awesome project. Stay tuned!

Great ti hear this update....I also heard the BURST/QORA partnership...and sorry for raging earlier.

So what is this Qrowdfunding campaign.
I would love to see QORA being active in Social media and other sites.


Good Luck QORA . :)

We will structure the CF (or QF if you will) in 3-4 parts. Development (core), Development (projects), promotion (videos, social media), graphics/design/websites

Something of that nature, to get the general idea of how the community is feeling on each of the topics.

The crowdfunds will be large, large enough to actually give us the power to get a lot done in each avenue.

Once we've figured out where the community sits on which of the topics to contribute to first, we'll have a better understanding of where they are, and which things they think are most important. Then we can use those in decision making for the coin in the future.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Seanzqt on August 05, 2016, 11:42:35 PM
I will be announcing our push to the future later on tonight.

I just got back from a vacation, and looking to start really doing more with QORA.

We plan to announce a large Qrowdfunding campaign in order to get the suggestions from the community in terms of donated coin, as far as which section of focus we should go for first.

After the completion of this attempt, we will have a better idea of what the community sees as important for focus in the coming weeks.


We also have a new idea for the coin itself, which will be announced upon the completion of the Qrowdfunds.


Thank you, and no, QORA is most certainly not dead, we're here to bring life back to this awesome project. Stay tuned!

Great ti hear this update....I also heard the BURST/QORA partnership...and sorry for raging earlier.

So what is this Qrowdfunding campaign.
I would love to see QORA being active in Social media and other sites.


Good Luck QORA . :)

We will structure the CF (or QF if you will) in 3-4 parts. Development (core), Development (projects), promotion (videos, social media), graphics/design/websites

Something of that nature, to get the general idea of how the community is feeling on each of the topics.

The crowdfunds will be large, large enough to actually give us the power to get a lot done in each avenue.

Once we've figured out where the community sits on which of the topics to contribute to first, we'll have a better understanding of where they are, and which things they think are most important. Then we can use those in decision making for the coin in the future.

Thanks!

So you're saying that you are capable of abandoning a project when people like me invest and then lose on our investments, you go on some holiday, come back and expect crowdfunding for a project you ignored ...?

Doesn't satisfy me.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 06, 2016, 01:59:47 AM
Looks like QORA reversal has started  8)

Reminds me of April month when QORA went from 6 to 70 sats.  :o
Good things coming ahead...Looks like price suppression is going on with those big sell orders  :D

Also the price has climbed recently and buy support is massively increased.  ::)

We might break 100 sats this time...Lets see guys  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: BiX0x4 on August 06, 2016, 02:31:04 AM
Qora is not dead, qora.co.in is dead

Any idea who the owner of this domain was? I will reach out to the insider contacts I have as well, but it would be nice to know, I will purchase the domain and put everything back up, along with new things as developed. Thanks!
Agran, he's owner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130219

We need new block explorer.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptoSporidium on August 06, 2016, 02:35:21 AM
I will be announcing our push to the future later on tonight.

I just got back from a vacation, and looking to start really doing more with QORA.

We plan to announce a large Qrowdfunding campaign in order to get the suggestions from the community in terms of donated coin, as far as which section of focus we should go for first.

After the completion of this attempt, we will have a better idea of what the community sees as important for focus in the coming weeks.


We also have a new idea for the coin itself, which will be announced upon the completion of the Qrowdfunds.


Thank you, and no, QORA is most certainly not dead, we're here to bring life back to this awesome project. Stay tuned!

Great ti hear this update....I also heard the BURST/QORA partnership...and sorry for raging earlier.

So what is this Qrowdfunding campaign.
I would love to see QORA being active in Social media and other sites.


Good Luck QORA . :)

We will structure the CF (or QF if you will) in 3-4 parts. Development (core), Development (projects), promotion (videos, social media), graphics/design/websites

Something of that nature, to get the general idea of how the community is feeling on each of the topics.

The crowdfunds will be large, large enough to actually give us the power to get a lot done in each avenue.

Once we've figured out where the community sits on which of the topics to contribute to first, we'll have a better understanding of where they are, and which things they think are most important. Then we can use those in decision making for the coin in the future.

Thanks!

So you're saying that you are capable of abandoning a project when people like me invest and then lose on our investments, you go on some holiday, come back and expect crowdfunding for a project you ignored ...?

Doesn't satisfy me.

Crowetic isn't the original dev who received the ICO funds, so his contributions to Qora are voluntary and unpaid afaik


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Seanzqt on August 06, 2016, 04:27:18 AM
Seems like Qora is rising on Poloniex, there are way too many large sell units on the sell order book holding any decent rise, though going up very slowly could see some positive signs, depends on what news comes out later.

However, I suppose I am not really fond of re-investing because of the past events of Qora. Never know this could change if the coin had some meaning and use behind it.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: love diem on August 06, 2016, 09:26:27 AM
I have a little money. Then 4-5 months ago I bought Diem and Qora. I made profit 2-3 times from Diem and Qora. I gave that moneys for my family ( father , mother , wife and daughters). Thanks so much.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 06, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
Seems like Qora is rising on Poloniex, there are way too many large sell units on the sell order book holding any decent rise, though going up very slowly could see some positive signs, depends on what news comes out later.

However, I suppose I am not really fond of re-investing because of the past events of Qora. Never know this could change if the coin had some meaning and use behind it.


Qora has started to reverse....People are expecting the big news and renewed interest that is gonna be released tonight.  ;)

I heard Crowetic saying QORA is one of the earliest coins with smartcontracts and who knows it might be a competitor to ETH/ETC/EXP  ::)
Also, there is a roadmap and various other secret features coming out soon.  :o

QORA 2.0 Here we come :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Seanzqt on August 06, 2016, 10:26:51 AM
Qora 13 on Poloniex.  :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: doedz on August 06, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
nice move qora, i'ill wait until qora launch qora 2.0  :o


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: love diem on August 06, 2016, 11:51:27 AM
Around 3-4 days ago , I bought QORA at 8 SAT. Today I sold some of them at 12 SAT. Thanks so much to QORA.
I thought that QORA very good coin. In the future may be high value. If I have enough money , I would hold it for long term.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Seanzqt on August 06, 2016, 11:55:42 AM
Around 3-4 days ago , I bought QORA at 8 SAT. Today I sold some of them at 12 SAT. Thanks so much to QORA.
I thought that QORA very good coin. In the future may be high value. If I have enough money , I would hold it for long term.

Good work, you do sound like a noob trader though. As you can see the values are still going up and that sell wall is slowly collapsing. I am pretty sure we are bound to see more decent rises from this, could of scored yourself some decent coinage.  :o


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: love diem on August 06, 2016, 03:57:55 PM
Around 3-4 days ago , I bought QORA at 8 SAT. Today I sold some of them at 12 SAT. Thanks so much to QORA.
I thought that QORA very good coin. In the future may be high value. If I have enough money , I would hold it for long term.

Good work, you do sound like a noob trader though. As you can see the values are still going up and that sell wall is slowly collapsing. I am pretty sure we are bound to see more decent rises from this, could of scored yourself some decent coinage.  :o

Thank you very much for your comments. And also I think that QORA will have more decent rises from this. I believe in this coin and dev. team.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Sjacmur on August 06, 2016, 05:26:43 PM
I bought some Qora just for 1 btc I am not rich.
I waiting for news and all put on ask at @95s because I near go sleep in my country is night already.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Za1n on August 06, 2016, 06:27:57 PM
Around 3-4 days ago , I bought QORA at 8 SAT. Today I sold some of them at 12 SAT. Thanks so much to QORA.
I thought that QORA very good coin. In the future may be high value. If I have enough money , I would hold it for long term.

Good work, you do sound like a noob trader though. As you can see the values are still going up and that sell wall is slowly collapsing. I am pretty sure we are bound to see more decent rises from this, could of scored yourself some decent coinage.  :o

He could have possibly made more by holding on longer, but he did get 150% return on his money, so nothing shabby about that at all. Plus he said he sold some, so perhaps he simply ROI and is letting the rest ride for profit.

I am unfortunately a bit late to the Qora party, so the lowest I have been able to grab it for thus far is 10 sat, and a bit more was acquired at 11 sat. I think 5x return or around 55 sat is certainly possible, but I too may sell some off a bit earlier depending on how hard and how fast it spikes, or for that matter if it spikes and doesn't just tank to 0. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DARKHOLDER on August 06, 2016, 07:03:46 PM
Seems like Qora is rising on Poloniex, there are way too many large sell units on the sell order book holding any decent rise, though going up very slowly could see some positive signs, depends on what news comes out later.

However, I suppose I am not really fond of re-investing because of the past events of Qora. Never know this could change if the coin had some meaning and use behind it.
Any news for that pump or this is just pnd?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Sjacmur on August 06, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
what "pump" ?
Rise price for 1-2 satoshi more ? you joking ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eshriek on August 06, 2016, 07:21:19 PM
why no deposit/withdraw on polo?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DARKHOLDER on August 06, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
what "pump" ?
Rise price for 1-2 satoshi more ? you joking ?
it rise for 6 sat..already IF You see +50% JOKING 1-2 SAT???


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dags on August 06, 2016, 07:36:59 PM
I am looking to contribute and have forked the project to start learning how it is setup.   Do you have documentation on how to build the app initially? I am running into compile errors when trying to javac Start.java.

Thanks


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Sjacmur on August 06, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
last time long time was 8-12s so I dont see any pump like you and I saw on 1-2 week so rise from 10 to 12s its not any pump for me. And news coming so price rised anyway.
stupid dogecoin have price 40-50s many times. so dont tell about pump because price change about 1-2 satoshi its ridicolous.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DARKHOLDER on August 06, 2016, 08:55:14 PM
last time long time was 8-12s so I dont see any pump like you and I saw on 1-2 week so rise from 10 to 12s its not any pump for me. And news coming so price rised anyway.
stupid dogecoin have price 40-50s many times. so dont tell about pump because price change about 1-2 satoshi its ridicolous.
whatever--1-2 sats ;D  I bought yesterday for 8sats -sold today for 13  :Dlol


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Seanzqt on August 06, 2016, 09:11:14 PM
Still no current roadmap.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: stkuser1 on August 07, 2016, 08:11:07 PM
Any updates on the dev?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: randombit on August 07, 2016, 08:41:39 PM
Any updates on the dev?

Iam sure we will see some significant announcement during the next 48hours.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 07, 2016, 08:43:43 PM
Any updates on the dev?

Iam sure we will see some significant announcement during the next 48hours.

Waiting patiently for the news :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eshriek on August 07, 2016, 09:35:34 PM
Any updates on the dev?

Iam sure we will see some significant announcement during the next 48hours.

Waiting patiently for the news :)

News? You mean like "Hey people you can deposit and withdraw Qora on Poloniex!" ?
That sure would be news worth waiting for... hey wait. I'm already waiting for that?¿
 :D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on August 07, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
If youre looking for funding, I suggest not to think only in the present time, maybe you guys can add a "tax" to support a little development fund in each block.

So lets say every block will have, I dunno, a 0.05% of the miners reward going to a dev team address. And since theres already a voting platform working, then, we the community can have a say on which direction those funds are going.

That will support the team for years to come.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 07, 2016, 10:10:05 PM
If youre looking for funding, I suggest not to think only in the present time, maybe you guys can add a "tax" to support a little development fund in each block.

So lets say every block will have, I dunno, a 0.05% of the miners reward going to a dev team address. And since theres already a voting platform working, then, we the community can have a say on which direction those funds are going.

That will support the team for years to come.



I would suggest doing a Qora ICO...That would be a great way


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 08, 2016, 12:55:50 AM
Any updates on the dev?

Iam sure we will see some significant announcement during the next 48hours.


The dev team is working hard right now on quite a few areas, including a fully decentralized exchange.

I will not get into the details yet until the CrowdFunds are launched and either successful or not, then we'll give the next steps for the future.

This is to rally the community and get their opinions via their coin, on the focus of the future.



As far as the tax goes, that is an option, but we'll see how things go.


I'm still getting myself familiar with the crowdfunding system, if someone would be so kind as to post a link to the CF page, that would be great, this is another thing I'm hoping to clarify in the wallet, making it much easier to find everything.

the devs have showed me before, but they're off right now, and I wanted to have this new CF campaign started by the time we have our meeting on Tuesday.


I'm sure I'll find it if I keep digging around, but a link would save me some time. Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 08, 2016, 01:33:20 AM
Still no current roadmap.

I've setup a site just like http://burst.press for QORA (http://qora.press) which will be the place of the new roadmap. It is currently not up, but I will post when it is.


First, however, we are going to be doing our CF campaign to get the opinions of the community as far as what they would like to see being focused on first.


I can tell you, that the ideas for 2.0 are really, really cool.


With QORA and BURST working together, making things easier to find and use inside QORA, and using the decentralized hosting and webRTC that is possible even now in QORA, you'll begin to see the start of what I'm calling the 'Decentralize Your World' campaign, in which we are looking to make multiple fully decentralized services on top of what we already have... and make the internet 2.0.

The stage is set with current QORA, and the only issue I'm seeing aside from lack of community support in staking, is the ease-of-use factor is very low (meaning QORA isn't that easy to figure out currently...)

What we will be doing, is an overhaul on this, making things easier to find and making services that are more secure, and totally decentralized, removing people's fear of hacking, and security holes.



QORA and BURST can already to direct transfers between eachother. Working on this tech, we will develop a fully decentralized exchange. This will prevent the exchange hacks that we're still seeing (i.e. bitfinex) and open the world up to a SECURE method of exchanging their coins.


A multi-chain system, shared services, and decentralization will make us an unstoppable force to be reckoned with.



BURST, and QORA, are two of the most advanced coins in existence, thanks to Automated Transactions (Smart Contracts by CIYAM) and the decentralized features offered already.

We will expand these features, and build services with them, that could also have businesses built on top of them.


The other issue, is that not many people know, that BURST was the first coin to have Smart Contracts, and BURST and QORA were the first to do a Cross Chain transfer with eachother. Now, with the invent of ClockTimeVerify in the BTC development, we are able to build ACCT transfers with BTC clones, this is what makes it possible to do a fully decentralized exchange, and what we are developing now, along with many other things.


I am not keeping this information away from the public, merely not saying things until we get more opinions from the community, as that is the way we like to do things, we want the people to help us build things by the people for the people. That is the new way of the world.


Soon, when Smart Contracts are mentioned, it is my goal to make BURST and QORA two of the most mentioned coins in the space.

BURST will be doing a demonstration, putting up at least 100 million BURST into a Smart Contract Crowdfund, and challenging the world to hack it. We know, that this isn't possible, but it will be a great thing to demonstrate to the world. We will be getting into many news sites, and showing as many people as possible, the power of our Smart Contracts, and the security.

This PR will also mention QORA, since the Automated Transactions system is the same, and the two coins are now working close together, as they should have been for a long time now.

When we have proven the legitimacy of our Smart Contracts, we will announce the development of our Decentralized Exchange, and more.


Thank you, and as soon as I get things structured on  my side here, I will be launching the multiple CFs...


They will be structured in multiple categories, to gauge the interest from the community in direction. When they have completed, more announcements will be made and polls will be taken, to get the direction down as far as the community and ourselves in the team are concerned.


The Qrowdfunds will seek a large amount of QORA, and hope to gain quite a bit of community participation, to help us in figuring out what the community thinks is important.


Also, using my promotional connections, and myself, I will be making videos on many different aspects of what QORA and BURST can do together, and posting them in many places.


Hopefully this gives a little teaser of what is to come, and people are sufficed with this until we can get the Qrowdfund campaign finished, and announce the rest of our plans, including taking the direction the community gives in the funding, into wholehearted consideration. Thank you and I truly look forward to getting to know this community better, and making some amazing things happen in the future!


This is the start of the changing of people's thinking, the start of the internet 2.0, and decentralization of all things. Welcome, and we hope you enjoy your time with us!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: JPred on August 08, 2016, 05:11:49 AM


      Yes!   :)





Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptoNick on August 08, 2016, 10:07:02 AM
Glad to see things moving along!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 08, 2016, 12:04:35 PM
Still no current roadmap.

I've setup a site just like http://burst.press for QORA (http://qora.press) which will be the place of the new roadmap. It is currently not up, but I will post when it is.


First, however, we are going to be doing our CF campaign to get the opinions of the community as far as what they would like to see being focused on first.


I can tell you, that the ideas for 2.0 are really, really cool.


With QORA and BURST working together, making things easier to find and use inside QORA, and using the decentralized hosting and webRTC that is possible even now in QORA, you'll begin to see the start of what I'm calling the 'Decentralize Your World' campaign, in which we are looking to make multiple fully decentralized services on top of what we already have... and make the internet 2.0.

The stage is set with current QORA, and the only issue I'm seeing aside from lack of community support in staking, is the ease-of-use factor is very low (meaning QORA isn't that easy to figure out currently...)

What we will be doing, is an overhaul on this, making things easier to find and making services that are more secure, and totally decentralized, removing people's fear of hacking, and security holes.



QORA and BURST can already to direct transfers between eachother. Working on this tech, we will develop a fully decentralized exchange. This will prevent the exchange hacks that we're still seeing (i.e. bitfinex) and open the world up to a SECURE method of exchanging their coins.


A multi-chain system, shared services, and decentralization will make us an unstoppable force to be reckoned with.



BURST, and QORA, are two of the most advanced coins in existence, thanks to Automated Transactions (Smart Contracts by CIYAM) and the decentralized features offered already.

We will expand these features, and build services with them, that could also have businesses built on top of them.


The other issue, is that not many people know, that BURST was the first coin to have Smart Contracts, and BURST and QORA were the first to do a Cross Chain transfer with eachother. Now, with the invent of ClockTimeVerify in the BTC development, we are able to build ACCT transfers with BTC clones, this is what makes it possible to do a fully decentralized exchange, and what we are developing now, along with many other things.


I am not keeping this information away from the public, merely not saying things until we get more opinions from the community, as that is the way we like to do things, we want the people to help us build things by the people for the people. That is the new way of the world.


Soon, when Smart Contracts are mentioned, it is my goal to make BURST and QORA two of the most mentioned coins in the space.

BURST will be doing a demonstration, putting up at least 100 million BURST into a Smart Contract Crowdfund, and challenging the world to hack it. We know, that this isn't possible, but it will be a great thing to demonstrate to the world. We will be getting into many news sites, and showing as many people as possible, the power of our Smart Contracts, and the security.

This PR will also mention QORA, since the Automated Transactions system is the same, and the two coins are now working close together, as they should have been for a long time now.

When we have proven the legitimacy of our Smart Contracts, we will announce the development of our Decentralized Exchange, and more.


Thank you, and as soon as I get things structured on  my side here, I will be launching the multiple CFs...


They will be structured in multiple categories, to gauge the interest from the community in direction. When they have completed, more announcements will be made and polls will be taken, to get the direction down as far as the community and ourselves in the team are concerned.


The Qrowdfunds will seek a large amount of QORA, and hope to gain quite a bit of community participation, to help us in figuring out what the community thinks is important.


Also, using my promotional connections, and myself, I will be making videos on many different aspects of what QORA and BURST can do together, and posting them in many places.


Hopefully this gives a little teaser of what is to come, and people are sufficed with this until we can get the Qrowdfund campaign finished, and announce the rest of our plans, including taking the direction the community gives in the funding, into wholehearted consideration. Thank you and I truly look forward to getting to know this community better, and making some amazing things happen in the future!


This is the start of the changing of people's thinking, the start of the internet 2.0, and decentralization of all things. Welcome, and we hope you enjoy your time with us!

Wow....great update..PR articles will really get to help the crypto-world know about Qora and its awesome features.  ::)

Can see the price breaking upwards already....Soon we will break 100 sats  ;)

GO GO QORA  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on August 08, 2016, 12:48:44 PM
If you're not holding at least a million Qora, you should be.   ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: fher98 on August 08, 2016, 01:56:28 PM
Still no current roadmap.


The stage is set with current QORA, and the only issue I'm seeing aside from lack of community support in staking, is the ease-of-use factor is very low (meaning QORA isn't that easy to figure out currently...)


Hi there, great to hear some news on the project.

On the lack of staking support, well in my experience the wallet just wont sync. I run other wallets 24/7, some are a hassle to setup and sync, but after a few configs they run just fine to the day.

Qora just wont keep in sync, Ive tried setting up on Linux and Windows VPS with no luck. I got tired of installing it over and over again, waiting days to get it to sync, just to see that a couple of hours later if will be offline. But after reading that theres no staking support, I guess Im not the only one with the same issues.

If the dev team can work on this issue I for sure will be staking nonstop. thanks



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: love diem on August 08, 2016, 02:35:21 PM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 08, 2016, 02:37:23 PM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Mrboot on August 08, 2016, 02:51:14 PM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting

Lol always enjoy to read Fantasy story's, a increase oke, maybe 100 sat one day but come one overtake ETH lol.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on August 08, 2016, 03:17:15 PM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting

Lol always enjoy to read Fantasy story's, a increase oke, maybe 100 sat one day but come one overtake ETH lol.

ETH's big selling point was Smart Contracts, but both Qora and Burst had it actually working before Ethereum were even off the ground.  The only reason they've got the higher market cap is better publicity.  In terms of features and utility, there's actually no reason why Qora shouldn't be worth just as much. 

Plus, Ethereum, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have ACCT support, so unlike Qora and Burst, it will have to be developed much further before it can do Atomic Cross Chain Transfers between ETC/BTC.  Both QORA/BTC and BURST/BTC without the aid of a third party exchange is much closer on the horizon.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dadingsda on August 08, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting

Lol always enjoy to read Fantasy story's, a increase oke, maybe 100 sat one day but come one overtake ETH lol.

ETH's big selling point was Smart Contracts, but both Qora and Burst had it actually working before Ethereum were even off the ground.  The only reason they've got the higher market cap is better publicity.  In terms of features and utility, there's actually no reason why Qora shouldn't be worth just as much. 

Plus, Ethereum, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have ACCT support, so unlike Qora and Burst, it will have to be developed much further before it can do Atomic Cross Chain Transfers between ETC/BTC.  Both QORA/BTC and BURST/BTC without the aid of a third party exchange is much closer on the horizon.


CONTACTS! Some big whales and other guys with a lot of influence are invested in ETH and not in Qora.

Anyhow... i like qora much more than ETH!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Wosterlee on August 08, 2016, 03:27:20 PM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting

Lol always enjoy to read Fantasy story's, a increase oke, maybe 100 sat one day but come one overtake ETH lol.

ETH's big selling point was Smart Contracts, but both Qora and Burst had it actually working before Ethereum were even off the ground.  The only reason they've got the higher market cap is better publicity.  In terms of features and utility, there's actually no reason why Qora shouldn't be worth just as much. 

Plus, Ethereum, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have ACCT support, so unlike Qora and Burst, it will have to be developed much further before it can do Atomic Cross Chain Transfers between ETC/BTC.  Both QORA/BTC and BURST/BTC without the aid of a third party exchange is much closer on the horizon.


CONTACTS! Some big whales and other guys with a lot of influence are invested in ETH and not in Qora.

Anyhow... i like qora much more than ETH!

Idd

ETH has the support of wall street and is too big too fail.

QORA/BURST has the support of nerds living in their parents basements


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dadingsda on August 08, 2016, 03:31:22 PM


Idd

ETH has the support of wall street and is too big too fail.

QORA/BURST has the support of nerds living in their parents basements
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Hahaha exactly (even i don´t live in my parents house anymore)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: DooMAD on August 08, 2016, 03:46:09 PM
ETH has the support of wall street and is too big too fail.

Perhaps, but sometimes it's better to fly under the radar until you have something stable to show.  Qora isn't going to have any DAO/ETH/ETC scale dramas because they're being sensible.  ETH devs are being dumb and trying to fly before they can walk.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Ayle56 on August 08, 2016, 06:05:02 PM
Any updates on the dev?

Iam sure we will see some significant announcement during the next 48hours.


The dev team is working hard right now on quite a few areas, including a fully decentralized exchange.

*snip*

the devs have showed me before, but they're off right now, and I wanted to have this new CF campaign started by the time we have our meeting on Tuesday.


It's good to hear of all the work going into Qora.

Which devs from the dev team will you be having a meeting with on Tuesday? Do you mean next Tuesday (tomorrow)?

Are we likely to see a significant announcement after the meeting like randombit said?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: jd1959 on August 08, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
If youre looking for funding, I suggest not to think only in the present time, maybe you guys can add a "tax" to support a little development fund in each block.

So lets say every block will have, I dunno, a 0.05% of the miners reward going to a dev team address. And since theres already a voting platform working, then, we the community can have a say on which direction those funds are going.

That will support the team for years to come.



I would suggest doing a Qora ICO...That would be a great way

Just 1 question ........ do you know what ICO stands for?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ttx on August 08, 2016, 10:05:06 PM
why no deposit/withdraw on polo?
Somebody wrote to the Poloniex Support?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 09, 2016, 12:44:11 AM
Any updates on the dev?

Iam sure we will see some significant announcement during the next 48hours.


The dev team is working hard right now on quite a few areas, including a fully decentralized exchange.

*snip*

the devs have showed me before, but they're off right now, and I wanted to have this new CF campaign started by the time we have our meeting on Tuesday.


It's good to hear of all the work going into Qora.

Which devs from the dev team will you be having a meeting with on Tuesday? Do you mean next Tuesday (tomorrow)?

Are we likely to see a significant announcement after the meeting like randombit said?


Yes, we are having a meeting on tuesday, as in tomorrow. In our encrypted voice server. In this meeting will be discussing more on the future of QORA and what will be worked on first.

As I said, we'll need to get the first CF campaign done, then we'll have a better idea of what the community thinks is the best option for direction first.

After the CF campaign, that is when we'll be announcing the significant announcements. We already have a pretty good idea of what we're going to do, but will also be taking some polls in either this or our forum regarding the ideas we have, and getting opinions from the community therein.


the CF campaign I was hoping to start today, but my lack of full knowledge of the wallet, and the lack of links in the wallet for many portions of the functionality, has made it difficult for me to locate the UI that was used to start the CFAT (Qrowdfund). So I will find out tomorrow in the meeting from the devs how to make this happen, and I assume we'll start the CFs tomorrow.

I think those will run for 4-6 weeks, as they will be very large, and we hope to have at least one of them filled, to give a good idea of which overall direction the community thinks is most important for development, promotion, design, etc.


I think some of the ideas that we have for the future will make people pretty excited, I believe. I for one, am very excited about the potential we have with the team we have and extensions of which being added as well.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 09, 2016, 12:51:34 AM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting

Lol always enjoy to read Fantasy story's, a increase oke, maybe 100 sat one day but come one overtake ETH lol.

ETH's big selling point was Smart Contracts, but both Qora and Burst had it actually working before Ethereum were even off the ground.  The only reason they've got the higher market cap is better publicity.  In terms of features and utility, there's actually no reason why Qora shouldn't be worth just as much. 

Plus, Ethereum, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have ACCT support, so unlike Qora and Burst, it will have to be developed much further before it can do Atomic Cross Chain Transfers between ETC/BTC.  Both QORA/BTC and BURST/BTC without the aid of a third party exchange is much closer on the horizon.

Absolutely right, we're much further ahead than ETH is actually, not to mention our ATs will be proven to be solid when we do our hacker challenge. Once this is proven, and our ATs are proven to be more secure than ETH, this is when we'll announce the fact that the same tech is being used to build a fully decentralized exchange. (Announced to the world that is, seeing as everyone here already knows about it. ;))


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 09, 2016, 12:54:39 AM
Still no current roadmap.


The stage is set with current QORA, and the only issue I'm seeing aside from lack of community support in staking, is the ease-of-use factor is very low (meaning QORA isn't that easy to figure out currently...)


Hi there, great to hear some news on the project.

On the lack of staking support, well in my experience the wallet just wont sync. I run other wallets 24/7, some are a hassle to setup and sync, but after a few configs they run just fine to the day.

Qora just wont keep in sync, Ive tried setting up on Linux and Windows VPS with no luck. I got tired of installing it over and over again, waiting days to get it to sync, just to see that a couple of hours later if will be offline. But after reading that theres no staking support, I guess Im not the only one with the same issues.

If the dev team can work on this issue I for sure will be staking nonstop. thanks



In my experience I've not had any issues with the wallet sync'ing, but if you are having this issue, I will bring it up tomorrow in the meeting and find out what we can do to get you logging the errors so the team can take a look.

My wallet though, has been sync'd and staking for quite some time with no issue. The stake rate seems quite low though, so I think that could be a reason not many people are staking. But we have solutions for this already planned that we'll be presenting to the community shortly. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 09, 2016, 01:06:44 AM
I just read the post of crowetic. This is the great things for me today. Now QORA 's price is increased already. Thank so much for crowetic and Dev.team

This is just the beginning..More things will follow suit

Soon, QORA will take over ETH/ETC and have a $1B marketcap...Smart contracts are so exciting

Lol always enjoy to read Fantasy story's, a increase oke, maybe 100 sat one day but come one overtake ETH lol.

ETH's big selling point was Smart Contracts, but both Qora and Burst had it actually working before Ethereum were even off the ground.  The only reason they've got the higher market cap is better publicity.  In terms of features and utility, there's actually no reason why Qora shouldn't be worth just as much. 

Plus, Ethereum, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have ACCT support, so unlike Qora and Burst, it will have to be developed much further before it can do Atomic Cross Chain Transfers between ETC/BTC.  Both QORA/BTC and BURST/BTC without the aid of a third party exchange is much closer on the horizon.


CONTACTS! Some big whales and other guys with a lot of influence are invested in ETH and not in Qora.

Anyhow... i like qora much more than ETH!

Idd

ETH has the support of wall street and is too big too fail.

QORA/BURST has the support of nerds living in their parents basements

WallStreet has nothing on us. Except massive corruption, that is.

Also, I don't know about you, maybe you live with your parents still, but I personally run multiple companies, and have not lived with my parents since I was 17, and neither does anyone else on our team.

Pretty funny assumption though, but I think it would be quite funny if it WERE true, because I have no doubt that we'll overtake the ETH in the future. May take some years, but we're in this for the long haul, so we have the time.

The difference here, is that our team is fully honest, and has integrity not to sell out to the gov or large corporations, and to do things the RIGHT way whatever the cost. This difference, is what will make us shine, and people see how things are done when being done in the 'correct' fashion.

Feel free to continue trolling if you'd like, but I would suggest you get off that train and hop on the one that will end up making you a lot more money and giving you bragging rights being in the community of the coins that changed the future.

No, I'm not just talking, I truly believe this. The setups that we already have, with some tweaking and development, definitely have the potential to come out WAY above the rest, and not just in terms of value, but in terms of overall functionality, security, and integrity.

The decentralized hosting of QORA will play a major role in the redesign of the internet as a whole, making the risk of hacks go much lower, and the costs of everything diminished drastically as well, while at the same time providing a way for even the most low powered of computers or phones to help secure the network and get paid for that.

The future we have planned is a very bright one, leading the way to spectacular decentralized applications and security deep seeded within everything. Long gone the days of centralized services being hacked, or products being released with known flaws allowing for explots to steal investor money (i.e. ETH.)

Once the world realizes the fact that our system is not only stronger, and more functional, but also future proof and ahead of the rest in terms of the way the chains are secured, and how services are provided... That will be all it takes to get the price on each of these undervalued coins to where they should be. Make the investors happy, and also begin to show how a truly decentralized and low-fee network can be run, proving our theories and giving people options they have never had before, even in countries that don't make as much money.

The future is now, it needs to be, or I really fear for what comes next. Thank you all for your active participation, and I look forward to making the non believers into believers, and the believers into wealthy ones ;)



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: gbosah on August 09, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
I just buy more than 100k qora coin on poloniex...... I just pray that qora will increase so i will  make my profit.  But the question is when........ Cos burst increase yesterday.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: hungerforsex on August 09, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
I just buy more than 100k qora coin on poloniex...... I just pray that qora will increase so i will  make my profit.  But the question is when........ Cos burst increase yesterday.
\I think you will profit very soon, qora is a high-tech coin with long term team, they are all experienced here, will support qora in the long term.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 09, 2016, 01:53:54 PM
Qora is the coin of the month  ::)

Breaking 50 sats  :o


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: eshriek on August 09, 2016, 06:02:26 PM
Can someone help me out?

I have some Qora and running a wallet.
1. I want to upgrade the wallet. Not sure of the process.
2. I want to try exchanging Qora for Burst. Burst wallet is up and running but has no coins.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: SmallMminer on August 10, 2016, 03:41:01 PM
Is core alive? where i can see roadmap?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 12, 2016, 12:01:03 AM
Main developer got back from a trip, will be talking with him about starting the Qrowdfunds here ASAP.

Once these have been finished, that's when the REAL announcements will begin, and the roadmap will be structured and announced.


As of right now we're just planning, working and planning. :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Mrboot on August 12, 2016, 06:28:47 AM
Main developer got back from a trip, will be talking with him about starting the Qrowdfunds here ASAP.

Once these have been finished, that's when the REAL announcements will begin, and the roadmap will be structured and announced.


As of right now we're just planning, working and planning. :)

Yea and do you think that is smart ? Asking for money without even knowing what it will be used for ? Will this crowdfunding impact the current token ?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: coin2.0 on August 12, 2016, 06:55:47 AM
buy and hold.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: francism on August 12, 2016, 07:16:09 AM
buy and hold.

I've been holding for quite sometime now while awaiting some good news from the dev team.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 12, 2016, 05:51:21 PM
Main developer got back from a trip, will be talking with him about starting the Qrowdfunds here ASAP.

Once these have been finished, that's when the REAL announcements will begin, and the roadmap will be structured and announced.


As of right now we're just planning, working and planning. :)

Yea and do you think that is smart ? Asking for money without even knowing what it will be used for ? Will this crowdfunding impact the current token ?



Well, yes, I think asking for funding for development makes perfect sense.

Everyone should know the capabilities of the team (yes, we do have some of the original team working with us) and have no issue with helping the coin move in a decided direction.

What we're doing here, is deciding WHICH direction the community thinks is most important, by accepting donations for various categories.

Once we've decided which direction the community thinks is most important, we will reveal our ideas for the future in these various categories, and take some polls as far as how EXACTLY things will proceed.


For now, we're looking for community involvement. If it is decided that we do not have enough community involvement during the CF campaign, that will also help us to decide what to do in the future, and how things will have to be handled.

What we hope to gain from this, is community involvement moreso than there  is now, and a direction to focus most efforts in the near future.


However, if everyone thinks this is not the correct way to go about it, and that we should release the roadmap idea first, THEN do the CF campaign, that could be done as well I suppose, let's go ahead and get some opinions on this...


Does everyone think that we should present the ideas we're thinking of for the future BEFORE doing the CF campaign, setting forth both what would happen if the CF doesn't get fulfilled in any aspect, and what could potentially happen if one IS fulfilled?

If this is how the community would like to see things done, I would be open to making that happen, would just have to verify with the team that they think it is acceptable, then we can move that direction.


We are always open to the community and their opinions, so please, provide them! Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: randombit on August 13, 2016, 11:33:01 PM
The problem is, that you dont have a community or enough people who are following you. This is the result of a none communication of the qora Team over the past month and years. Many people moved to other projects, and its now your task to catch them back to qora.

I was always a qora supporter but, over the last months and years it was more than difficult to recieve answers regarding to wallet issues or other things. And now you are asking for community support.

A lot of people still believe in Qora because enough hero and legandary members believe in Qora tech, but its your turn now, to ship all the believers into the boat. Qora has a lot of competitors, and the result of your lag of information is now that a lot of people moved to other projects.

Iam still a Qora believer and i still spread the word in several other forums,, but you have overslept and now you have to win the trust into your project again to built up a real community.

Sorry for this hard words, but its the true.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: CryptoNick on August 13, 2016, 11:43:17 PM
The problem is, that you dont have a community or enough people who are following you. This is the result of a none communication of the qora Team over the past month and years. Many people moved to other projects, and its now your task to catch them back to qora.

I was always a qora supporter but, over the last months and years it was more than difficult to recieve answers regarding to wallet issues or other things. And now you are asking for community support.

A lot of people still believe in Qora because enough hero and legandary members believe in Qora tech, but its your turn now, to ship all the believers into the boat. Qora has a lot of competitors, and the result of your lag of information is now that a lot of people moved to other projects.

Iam still a Qora believer and i still spread the word in several other forums,, but you have overslept and now you have to win the trust into your project again to built up a real community.

Sorry for this hard words, but its the true.

QORA is on its way back, it will take some time but loyal people like you are out there and once things are situated there will be a flurry of activity and growth!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 14, 2016, 01:34:03 AM
The problem is, that you dont have a community or enough people who are following you. This is the result of a none communication of the qora Team over the past month and years. Many people moved to other projects, and its now your task to catch them back to qora.

I was always a qora supporter but, over the last months and years it was more than difficult to recieve answers regarding to wallet issues or other things. And now you are asking for community support.

A lot of people still believe in Qora because enough hero and legandary members believe in Qora tech, but its your turn now, to ship all the believers into the boat. Qora has a lot of competitors, and the result of your lag of information is now that a lot of people moved to other projects.

Iam still a Qora believer and i still spread the word in several other forums,, but you have overslept and now you have to win the trust into your project again to built up a real community.

Sorry for this hard words, but its the true.

Agreed, so, I think I'll promote the idea of giving a head's up on the direction we're thinking, while at the same time promoting the CF attempts to get funding for these directions.

If anyone has any disagreement with the direction, they can announce it, and we'll talk about what they think.

I think with what we have planned thus far, yes, we will have a couple competitors, but they won't be able to fully compete. Maybe that's me being too optimistic, but I honestly don't think so...

With the talented team we have (that yes, may not have done exactly what people here expected, but I don't put blame on the development team, they simply needed some help in the leadership aspect. This is what myself and the rest of the collaborative effort is/are here to provide, and I think with this assistance, we'll be able to get some really amazing things completed.)

I would still like to see how much of an active community IS left, via the CF efforts, but I think that giving a general idea of what direction we're thinking right now, might be a good idea as well.

I don't find your criticism too harsh, I find it needed, and helpful. So please, don't hesitate to let us know how you're feeling in the future, we are going in a different direction than a lot of others, by making this a community driven project, with a community leadership and a great team of people dedicated to the project.

Let me do a little talking with the others and find out if they would be opposed to me putting up a general idea of the roadmap we have in store now, before or right after the announcement of the CF campaign starting.

Thank you all who have stuck around for QORA's re-birth, I think you'll all be pretty excited about the future, as I am, once we've delivered the ideas we're thinking about.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 14, 2016, 01:45:27 AM
Polo's wallet contains over 50% of QORA coins....I think these coins are the premine from devs on the sell order books.

Last week there was only 2.5bill coins, but now there is around 2.9bill coins

I'm sure  someone seems to be exiting.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 14, 2016, 02:02:51 AM
Polo's wallet contains over 50% of QORA coins....I think these coins are the premine from devs on the sell order books.

Last week there was only 2.5bill coins, but now there is around 2.9bill coins

I'm sure  someone seems to be exiting.

Well, the people who are no longer working with the coin are free to do whatever they please.

The future will hopefully resolve the issue of the majority of the coins being on the exchanges.

This is one of the main goals of what we're coming up with, that and of course to revitalize the following of the project and make use of the awesome features that currently exist.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: tetra on August 14, 2016, 10:11:25 AM
I would like to know which ideas are favoured by the devs as its them who need to love what they are doing. So yes, potential ideas with dev weightings beforehand would be nice :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: randombit on August 14, 2016, 11:57:09 AM
I would like to know which ideas are favoured by the devs as its them who need to love what they are doing. So yes, potential ideas with dev weightings beforehand would be nice :)

The enviroment offers many opportunities you have to connect. Even if you would have the greatest tech it will be worthless, if nobody use it, you need attention!. Qora Dev.Team should try hard to connect with other people and projekts, give a interview on cointelegraph that qora is still alive and what will happen the next following months, you need attention to recieve the attention of tech/ code and marketing talented people to expand. You need more publicity, you could start with a overview of qora on core magazin for example. It belongs more than a great tech to be a succesfull 2.0 project.

There are to many people out there, who still never heard from qora, but are trading since 2 years on polo. A lot of new people came to the market over the last 1 1/2 years, i would estimate 50 % or more came to the market over the last 1 1/2 year.

Drum loud all togheter, all your believer and supporter!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 14, 2016, 08:22:44 PM
I would like to know which ideas are favoured by the devs as its them who need to love what they are doing. So yes, potential ideas with dev weightings beforehand would be nice :)

The enviroment offers many opportunities you have to connect. Even if you would have the greatest tech it will be worthless, if nobody use it, you need attention!. Qora Dev.Team should try hard to connect with other people and projekts, give a interview on cointelegraph that qora is still alive and what will happen the next following months, you need attention to recieve the attention of tech/ code and marketing talented people to expand. You need more publicity, you could start with a overview of qora on core magazin for example. It belongs more than a great tech to be a succesfull 2.0 project.

There are to many people out there, who still never heard from qora, but are trading since 2 years on polo. A lot of new people came to the market over the last 1 1/2 years, i would estimate 50 % or more came to the market over the last 1 1/2 year.

Drum loud all togheter, all your believer and supporter!


Indeed, in fact, I'm looking to geta  few interviews on multiple different places now. To talk about QORA and BURST/QORA collaboration.

We have decided that yes, we will announce the potential future direction at the same time as the CF attempts. The new CF UI has been developed, and I'm currently awaiting my wallet to resync after a computer crash so that I can launch the CFs.

At the same time, I'll be making the http://qora.press roadmap site, so we can announce our ideas and get opinions there as well.

You can expect these things to happen here shortly. Here's to the future!



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: kjadB on August 15, 2016, 01:49:10 AM
Which devs are still working on Qora?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 16, 2016, 04:12:47 AM
Which devs are still working on Qora?

We have 2 of the main devs actively working on QORA, some of the BURST team will likely be helping with some stuff, and two outside consultants with a lot of familiarity with QORA, who will be helping with parts of QORA development, and will also be developing new projects that will work WITH QORA and BURST, and other coins, including BTC.


We have decided on how we're going to be doing the next moves... I will be making that announcement here shortly, along with 1-2 of the QrowdFunds being launched, and will be writing up our ideas for the roadmap at the same time.


There will be a series of QrowdFunds launched for various purposes, as I've mentioned before, and idea of what we're thinking for the future, will be posted in the roadmap as well.


I'll be starting the first of the QrowdFunds either this evening or tomorrow morning, and writing up a general idea of the roadmap we have been planning as well.



I'm very excited about the stuff we've talked about thus far, and I hope the community will be as well. Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: cyberhacker on August 16, 2016, 08:30:23 AM
hi all,

I wrote a reveiw of QORA, http://btc12.com/2016/08/16/qora2-0-iscoming/ (http://btc12.com/2016/08/16/qora2-0-iscoming/)

http://btc12.com (http://btc12.com) is a ICO review blog and also a blog of promising altcoin updates.

I am holding some qora for a long time and i know Qora will be great again.

waiting for Qora 2.0 and enjoy.


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Bybox on August 16, 2016, 03:28:11 PM
Which devs are still working on Qora?

We have 2 of the main devs actively working on QORA, some of the BURST team will likely be helping with some stuff, and two outside consultants with a lot of familiarity with QORA, who will be helping with parts of QORA development, and will also be developing new projects that will work WITH QORA and BURST, and other coins, including BTC.


We have decided on how we're going to be doing the next moves... I will be making that announcement here shortly, along with 1-2 of the QrowdFunds being launched, and will be writing up our ideas for the roadmap at the same time.


There will be a series of QrowdFunds launched for various purposes, as I've mentioned before, and idea of what we're thinking for the future, will be posted in the roadmap as well.


I'll be starting the first of the QrowdFunds either this evening or tomorrow morning, and writing up a general idea of the roadmap we have been planning as well.



I'm very excited about the stuff we've talked about thus far, and I hope the community will be as well. Thanks!
What is qrowdfund?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 16, 2016, 11:27:50 PM
-[ANNouncement]- QORA idea roadmap complete


I have completed the roadmap for the ideas we're running with right now, and will be posting that shortly. But I would like to wait until poloniex pulls QORA off the maintenance status they have on the wallet right now. Because we're going to need people to be able to withdrawal coins from the exchange, to put them in their local wallets to make use of the QrowdFunds.

So that's what I'm waiting on now, they told me (poloniex) that the wallet is 'down for maintenance', but they didn't give a timeframe on the finishing of this maintenance. So We must wait until that is complete before posting the roadmap and QrowdFund attempts.

Once this happens, I'll post the announcement containing the idea map for QORA, and QORA 2.0.


Apologies for the delay, but it is out of my hands at the moment. The general idea here is to get coins off the exchanges, and back into use on the network. We need people to make more use of QORA features, which is why a UI redesign and a web based pretty wallet are on the list of things to do.

We plan to make much more use of QORA's decentralized web hosting, and WebRTC, and turn it into the internet of the future. Multiple services and such. This is in the roadmap that I will post shortly with the beginning of the multiple crowdfunds.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: meyer on August 17, 2016, 10:58:55 AM
a web based wallet would be great  :)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: dranster on August 17, 2016, 12:03:11 PM
Come on QORA.....You can do it..

50 Sats here we come :)  ;)


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: Bybox on August 17, 2016, 12:04:37 PM
Come on QORA.....You can do it..

50 Sats here we come :)  ;)
Only 50 sats? this coin will pump to 100 sats soon


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 17, 2016, 01:06:23 PM
did qora have pool mining? did qora have faucet too? i am waiting the pump of qora, and i will its reach about up to 100. and for now, the rate qora on poloniex is just 12 satoshi. i wish the pump will start in this week  ;D


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: vipgelsi on August 17, 2016, 01:28:12 PM
I just downloaded my Qora wallet and synced it was wondering i have 17 addresses on accounts tab on the wallet can i send Qora to any of these addresses? Coming from bitcoin i am used to 1 receiving address.

Also i saved the key when i first downloaded the wallet is there any other way to backup the wallet again or only when you first install?


Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network
Post by: crowetic on August 17, 2016, 10:48:14 PM
All we're waiting on right now, is Poloniex to unlock their withdrawals. This is hindering the progress and bothering me quite a bit...

We need to get these guys to unlock their withdrawals, it is obvious their wallet is working... They're the one staking majority of the blocks, which I believe is totally unethical, and they shouldn't be allowed to stake other people's coin for profit... but that's beside the point...

It seems to me they've had the wallet on maintenance for far too long, and it's about time they remove that.


I have written a ticket to them, hopefully they'll respond and resolve this as soon as possible.



As far as the question above, the addresses are all yours, as far as the backup question, I will have to find out on that for you, I just recently got full control over the QORA twitter, and github accounts that I needed, and I don't know every bit of detail for the coin quite yet, so I will have to find out for you.



Title: Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transacti