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Title: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: smoothie on January 11, 2013, 09:27:14 PM
Here is a video of Butterfly Lab's PR/Spokesperson showing his true colors and refusing to talk about the case on display at the CES convention in LV. Supposedly this device only has fans and a nexus device inside of it.

With $25 million in preorder funds, this is all they were able to come up with. This is related to the service of butterfly labs because it shows where they are at in their providing customers that have sent preorder funds to them for a device that is now 70 days late on delivery (at least) with no proof or accountability of what was done with the preorder funds.

Start video at 2:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: starsoccer9 on January 12, 2013, 12:45:33 AM
seems like a typical BFL. Cant wait to see everyone get scammed by them


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: AmDD on January 12, 2013, 12:59:51 AM
Ha! What a douche!


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Fiyasko on January 12, 2013, 01:11:41 AM
What a fucking asshole, I wonder how many people are going try to pull orders when they see that "BFL_Josh" blatently tells someone to "get a fucking clue" when the man walks up and asks him "What is this box, I am having trouble understanding what it is"


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 12, 2013, 01:15:21 AM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: repentance on January 12, 2013, 01:20:07 AM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?

The guy is Micon.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: fernarios on January 12, 2013, 01:37:33 AM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?

If you guys want some background on this... Micon came by our booth yesterday and started stomping around (literally, like a little kid throwing a tantrum) and screaming foul language at one of my employees "IS THAT JUST A FUCKING BOX OF FANS?! ARE YOU EVER GOING TO FUCKING SHIP ASICS?  ITS JUST A BOX OF FUCKING FANS!" over and over.  Needless to say, we did not want a repeat of his behavior today.

The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy.  I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: AmDD on January 12, 2013, 01:44:06 AM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?

If you guys want some background on this... Micon came by our booth yesterday and started stomping around (literally, like a little kid throwing a tantrum) and screaming foul language at one of my employees "IS THAT JUST A FUCKING BOX OF FANS?! ARE YOU EVER GOING TO FUCKING SHIP ASICS?  ITS JUST A BOX OF FUCKING FANS!" over and over.  Needless to say, we did not want a repeat of his behavior today.

The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy.  I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?
If this is true then I would say it was called for and I retract my previous statement.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: smoothie on January 12, 2013, 01:54:18 AM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?

If you guys want some background on this... Micon came by our booth yesterday and started stomping around (literally, like a little kid throwing a tantrum) and screaming foul language at one of my employees "IS THAT JUST A FUCKING BOX OF FANS?! ARE YOU EVER GOING TO FUCKING SHIP ASICS?  ITS JUST A BOX OF FUCKING FANS!" over and over.  Needless to say, we did not want a repeat of his behavior today.

The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy.  I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?
If this is true then I would say it was called for and I retract my previous statement.

Someone else should go there and do the same thing just to get an explanation about what that box is. Also they should ask them about the status of the ASIC chips. Perhaps where did all of the $25 million pre-order money go.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: 01BTC10 on January 12, 2013, 02:05:38 AM
I'm a bit mad because last summer before the BFL announcement I was planning to build a 200+ GPU mining farm. (I had access to very cheap electricity and financing) I've put my project on hold and now it look like at best their company is completely unprofessional or at worst another huge scam. Even if I did not pre-order any ASIC they probably costed me some potential profit.

/end rant

It sucks for those who pre-ordered, I wish they will receive their ASIC somehow.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: crazyates on January 12, 2013, 02:41:49 AM
Bwahaha! Josh was a bit on the aggressive side, but that Micon dude is a fuckin 'tard. He's seriously off his rocker. Does he think he's actually fooling anyone?

I also love how he interviews BitPay, but spends so much time talking and talking and talking he never actually lets them fully answer a question.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 12, 2013, 05:55:23 AM
Who's Micon, why does everyone know this guy? I've never heard of him.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: 01BTC10 on January 12, 2013, 06:00:26 AM
Who's Micon, why does everyone know this guy? I've never heard of him.
He made a list of suspected ponzi sheme before Trendon Shavers ponzi collapse and he his representing https://sealswithclubs.eu

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100514.0



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 12, 2013, 06:13:35 AM
Thanks


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: bce on January 12, 2013, 10:12:08 AM
This video is like a 3rd take of a mobilized stalker dunk-tank clown trying to get a reaction.  Josh's reaction was effective.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Frizz23 on January 12, 2013, 11:13:26 AM
What a fucking asshole, I wonder how many people are going try to pull orders when they see that "BFL_Josh" blatently tells someone to "get a fucking clue" when the man walks up and asks him "What is this box, I am having trouble understanding what it is"

Not BFL asshamsters!
Just have a read at https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/668-sounds-like-fun-angry-guy-visiting-bfl-ces-2013-a-4.html#post10082 (https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/668-sounds-like-fun-angry-guy-visiting-bfl-ces-2013-a-4.html#post10082)

Comments are like:
I might just buy another Single SC after listening to that.
+1 to Josh


See? BFL lemmings want to be scammed!


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Frizz23 on January 12, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Someone else should go there and do the same thing just to get an explanation about what that box is. Also they should ask them about the status of the ASIC chips.

Not necessary.

BFL posted a video on their website (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZUPniBo5UQ#t=04m30s) that answers your question:

David Perry: "So this is just a case ... you don't actually have ASICs ready?
Josh: "Um... right ... but we are eagerly awaiting them as everybody else I'm sure ..."


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: DiCE1904 on January 12, 2013, 11:35:08 AM
Wow. what a fuckn dick. getting rid of my pre-order today.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: greyhawk on January 12, 2013, 01:48:47 PM
What a fucking asshole, I wonder how many people are going try to pull orders when they see that "BFL_Josh" blatently tells someone to "get a fucking clue" when the man walks up and asks him "What is this box, I am having trouble understanding what it is"

Not BFL asshamsters!
Just have a read at https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/668-sounds-like-fun-angry-guy-visiting-bfl-ces-2013-a-4.html#post10082 (https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/668-sounds-like-fun-angry-guy-visiting-bfl-ces-2013-a-4.html#post10082)

Comments are like:
I might just buy another Single SC after listening to that.
+1 to Josh


See? BFL lemmings want to be scammed!

Yeah, but that's their answer to ANYTHING.

BFL announces new delay? Buy another Single SC.
Obama got voted? Buy another Single SC.
Aliens attack? Buy another Single SC.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: the_thing on January 12, 2013, 03:14:08 PM
Quote
Angry guy visiting BFL at CES 2013
lol that forum is quite funny. what a good read.



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 12, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
What a fucking asshole, I wonder how many people are going try to pull orders when they see that "BFL_Josh" blatently tells someone to "get a fucking clue" when the man walks up and asks him "What is this box, I am having trouble understanding what it is"

Not BFL asshamsters!
Just have a read at https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/668-sounds-like-fun-angry-guy-visiting-bfl-ces-2013-a-4.html#post10082 (https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/668-sounds-like-fun-angry-guy-visiting-bfl-ces-2013-a-4.html#post10082)

Comments are like:
I might just buy another Single SC after listening to that.
+1 to Josh


See? BFL lemmings want to be scammed!

I'm still waiting on my asshamsters, are you backlogged or what?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Frizz23 on January 12, 2013, 06:45:28 PM
I'm still waiting on my asshamsters, are you backlogged or what?

You are a f*cking idiot! I told you we are not backlogged! We are just waiting for a call from our Asian benefactors when to expect the Asshamster stuffing. There will be an update on the week of Jan 13th with great news. Honest Abe.

We also show living (sort of) asshamsters at CES. But don't come and visit us - we don't want visitors.

Here's a picture of one taken with my Nexus 7 :

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2413/hamsterkl.jpg


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: btcash on January 12, 2013, 08:32:05 PM
What a douche. Is trying to be funny or is he really that arrogant?
Did he know that he was talking to micon? It looks like he did.

Even if BFL won't scam I wouldn't give them a quarter.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 12, 2013, 11:23:54 PM
I'm still waiting on my asshamsters, are you backlogged or what?

You are a f*cking idiot! I told you we are not backlogged! We are just waiting for a call from our Asian benefactors when to expect the Asshamster stuffing. There will be an update on the week of Jan 13th with great news. Honest Abe.

We also show living (sort of) asshamsters at CES. But don't come and visit us - we don't want visitors.




Excuuse me princess.  ::)



What a douche. Is trying to be funny or is he really that arrogant?
Did he know that he was talking to micon? It looks like he did.

Even if BFL won't scam I wouldn't give them a quarter.

Josh mentioned pokering seals so I'm guessing he knew who it was he was insulting.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: smoothie on January 13, 2013, 06:43:28 PM
More specifically this is what BFL brought to the CES convention. What was the point again? To show off all the extra space you have? BFL so fucking fail. LOL!

https://i.imgur.com/fcma3.jpg



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: 01BTC10 on January 13, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
Nice ASIC empty case.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: greyhawk on January 13, 2013, 06:58:32 PM
Nice ASIC empty case.

It's not empty. Please dont forget the 30000 $ Nexus 7.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: smoothie on January 13, 2013, 07:01:59 PM
Nice ASIC empty case.

It's not empty. Please dont forget the 30000 $ Nexus 7.

oh I forgot about that the $30k Nexus 7.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: 01BTC10 on January 13, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Nice ASIC empty case.

It's not empty. Please dont forget the 30000 $ Nexus 7.
Hilarious. This must be the most expensive Android phone on earth.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: bitster on January 13, 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Wow that BFL guy was as asshole given how much time has gone by and they still wont prove that they have a working product he has no right give anyone a hard time.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Fiyasko on January 14, 2013, 12:53:11 AM
More specifically this is what BFL brought to the CES convention. What was the point again? To show off all the extra space you have? BFL so fucking fail. LOL!

https://i.imgur.com/fcma3.jpg



This is what could use a damn explanation, Why bring an empty FPGA minirig shell? Why not a running minirig?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: AmDD on January 14, 2013, 01:06:25 AM
More specifically this is what BFL brought to the CES convention. What was the point again? To show off all the extra space you have? BFL so fucking fail. LOL!

https://i.imgur.com/fcma3.jpg



This is what could use a damn explanation, Why bring an empty FPGA minirig shell? Why not a running minirig?

They dont exist?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: greyhawk on January 14, 2013, 01:09:53 AM
That's not an FPGA shell. The FPGA shell had cool velcro and hot glue inside..


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 14, 2013, 01:23:21 AM
This is what could use a damn explanation, Why bring an empty FPGA minirig shell? Why not a running minirig?

Because

https://i.imgur.com/ygqpk.jpg


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 14, 2013, 02:23:43 AM
Isn't this the week they deliver?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: 01BTC10 on January 14, 2013, 02:26:32 AM
Isn't this the week they deliver?
Nope: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: smoothie on January 14, 2013, 02:41:37 AM
Isn't this the week they deliver?

They don't start shipping until the week of February 10th which ends on February 17th. So looks like we are headed into the month of March...if ever...


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 14, 2013, 02:44:20 AM
Then we wait until March.

March is when my birthday is, I'm a pisces.  ;)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Monster Tent on January 14, 2013, 09:02:39 AM
I will lol so hard if they deliver empty boxes to everyone stupid enough to order a scam product.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 15, 2013, 03:21:06 AM
I will lol so hard if they deliver empty boxes to everyone stupid enough to order a scam product.

Come on now, they're smart enough to weight the boxes down.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: usagi on January 15, 2013, 01:05:35 PM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?

Josh is very clear that he does not want to talk to Micon because they have a previous relationship.

If you keep watching the video Micon goes on to tell how he is going to shit talk Josh on the forums.

Micon is essentially shit talking Josh and defaming him because he doesn't like Josh. You will note that the questions he is stating "the community has a right to know" were never actually asked to Josh, they were presented to the forum in a way that made people assume they were an issue.

They were never an issue. Micon is just being a jerk.

That being said there are issues with BFL, I haven't seen a picture of a working ASIC rig anywhere. You would think there would be one. But Micon is doing the community a huge disservice by approaching BFL in this way. Why not just ask some questions through the proper channels? Why the drama? It's not helping.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: becoin on January 15, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
The Manual:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136615.0


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: Third Way on January 16, 2013, 11:47:09 PM
Is anyone still selling new FPGAs? ???


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: QuantumKiwi on January 17, 2013, 08:55:59 PM
Did Josh know this guy from before? Because I think the vid is made to make Josh out to look like an asshole, why would he be so belligerent from the start?

Josh is very clear that he does not want to talk to Micon because they have a previous relationship.

If you keep watching the video Micon goes on to tell how he is going to shit talk Josh on the forums.

Micon is essentially shit talking Josh and defaming him because he doesn't like Josh. You will note that the questions he is stating "the community has a right to know" were never actually asked to Josh, they were presented to the forum in a way that made people assume they were an issue.

They were never an issue. Micon is just being a jerk.

That being said there are issues with BFL, I haven't seen a picture of a working ASIC rig anywhere. You would think there would be one. But Micon is doing the community a huge disservice by approaching BFL in this way. Why not just ask some questions through the proper channels? Why the drama? It's not helping.

Oh right, ask through the proper channels and get a sheep like response of " Yes we are still in R&D rah rah rah just another excuse " .

They know that in person, they will get a bit of shit and the guy cannot even handle a professional approach to get him out and away... Its being recorded, the way of which that idiot from BFL labs responded is horrible from a corporate investors point of view, the guy should be fired on the spot.

With 25 million dollars in pre-orders I would hope someone is jumping up and down more than the troll that apparently made the video, because otherwise these guys will get away with spending your pre-order money, shit they probably already have! Nexus 7, damn - i bet they are driving around in nice wealthy vehicles by now.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: cAPSLOCK on January 27, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
What a douche. Is trying to be funny or is he really that arrogant?
Did he know that he was talking to micon? It looks like he did.

Even if BFL won't scam I wouldn't give them a quarter.

No shit... he will just give it right to Micon.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs Rep at CES Showcase "ASICs"
Post by: maunderingcabal on January 27, 2013, 11:59:04 PM
They both look like dicks. I hope that people don't get scammed as bad as I think they are, but at the same time I hope ASICs never come out.