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Gold was up about $50 today, a huge move (~4%) in one day.


http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=%24GOLD&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=0&r=1455228985589


Stocks were way down worldwide.  It will be fun to see Japan's Nikkei tomorrow (tonight USA) and China on Monday when they return from their New Year's.  

Oil was crushed.

Lined up in London to buy physical:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/12151770/Investors-go-bananas-for-gold-bars-as-global-stock-markets-tumble.html

And a long weekend coming up......

Yes, gold and silver are doing well this year... Unfortunately bitcoin remains stagnant during this market meltdown which tells us it's not considered to be a safe investment at the moment. I remain a strong believer this will change providing we will not f**k it up by then.

Nice for people that entered the market the last month. They have been seeing their investment increase with around 8% in quite a short time. If you look at the 1 year chart, then the gold price is still 3% in the red.

That buy is mostly from Europe.Paniic buy becuuse of EU bank crash,gold price will rise  in coming days

Safe?  Bitcoin has been one of the most volatile investments to own since it came out, hands down.  Precious metals haven't been as volatile as btc since bitcoin was introduced.  Some stocks, probably, but btc is definitely considered a flight to safety.

It's been nice to see gold & silver rally these past few days.  I don't own any gold, but I do own a little silver.  Yay for me.

Gold always seems to be tied inversely to the stock market, which as we all know is tanking at the moment (of course right when I'm looking to buy a house)

increase up to $50 i think that's very good price increases and i do believe for those people who buy gold before today will get very much profit from that but currently i do not interested invest my money by buying a gold and although the price movement very slow currently i'm still believe bitcoin for my short term invest

yeah gold are doing great growth in price and bitcoin are geting constant but don't worry it will not bitcoin price will up soon ;p

Gold has not interrupted in the growth of bitcoin. Gold has the market in trillions which describes its difficult to move a value that easy compared to bitcoin which is growing constantly with few millions. Soon bitcoin might reach the state of gold.

The gold market might be trillions, but that is not the actively traded supply.. Most of the gold is lying in underground bunkers, in electronics and on peoples bodies. The traded supply is just the tip of the iceberg and that is why big price movements are possible. The rest is just not liquid.

The same happens with bitcoin and altcoins when price starts shooting up. A thin sell order book is easily gobbled up and value grows before the new coins move in to the exchanges and on to the order books.

i can argue that it is just a pump and dump, because other stock market are crashing, money need always to move on something else, they do not fade away

sum zero game you know....

"Gold was up about $50 today" is this happen often in a week or a month?look interesting if gold also fluctuate like that,must open my bitgold account,again?

This was expected. But this is not something so serious.
In future this rise could be more significant. maybe for 10 or more years..

Gold was always a good investment for long term only now the price rise is hugh. How sure will it be this price will stay possible the price will also go fast down again.

Despite this, I still think gold will be a good place to go. That and real estate. Well yes, Bitcoin, but I am actually talking about real sensible good-old classic investments.

I think gold is also unpredictable, you can not say what the price will be in a few months. Of course its the best thing to invest long term.
But seeing this I have some doubts about the stability of the gold.

I think it's the opposite, gold is more or less constant in long term and acts like a shelter commodity.
When there are doubts, people buy gold.
If I would have to guess, I would say people are afraid of a crash in China's economy.

No no this is first mistake..
Gold is not stable over time, you have the feeling, because they injects huge money in industry and economy in order to save dollar from disaster..
When dollar collapse only gold will store value, and many people will suddenly be bankrot..

I don't see this happening yet, but of course one can argue it will get there in time providing digital asset class will gain broader acceptance.

Yes it's true that gold rises because the dollar devalues.
On the other hand gold gets highly manipulated by all those gold certificates. There are now 293 ounces of paper gold for every ounce of physical gold.

Problem is when we talking about gold we did connect gold and fiat money, and we always looking at graphs money vs gold. Stop this. Dollar has great inflation and you can't compare gold with something that is printing every day..

What will happen if we  start this pair oil for gold?

There are hot news that gold  supply has drop first time,there is not infiniitive gold  recources gold market has been terribly  frauded,now it  is  time for gold

The supplies are starting to decline. The South African gold production has been declining for some time now. It was partially being neutralized by increased mine production from China, Russia, and Australia. But the mine production in these nations also seems to have peaked. Now most of the remaining gold is stuck in remote and complex deposits, where the cost of production is very high.

Coincidentally, Monero also "KILLED all else today."  It's up 20%, on record-ish volume.

I mention that because like gold, Monero is fungible and/therefore anonymous (unlike Bitcoin and Litecoin).

Kondratiev Winter is approaching.  Watch out for white walkers!

The reason why Bitcoin is not rallying when it should is because of the divisions in the community and all the risks associated with the potential hard fork looming.

http://trendsresearch.com/trends-journal-tv/
Gerald Celente -Trends research institute.
This man have six sense, follow him and you can be little wiser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZJ948oCoc

thanks for the post and i advise you to post more about bitcoin.

gold price has made a nice jump, but how much potential increase is there to gain? i think a max of 20-30% in the comming year(s). it's decent, but i expect bitcoin to give me a better return.

There is a lot of talk about a "gold revaluation" as another tool to save the world economy after QE has failed.

They are running out of other options fast, next will negative interest rates then what?

If they do implement a gold revaluation it could literally go to $5000 + overnight.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-02/coming-revaluation-gold

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=gold+revaluation&tbs=qdr:m

Gold revaluation is the ultimate goal of the financial turmoil and gyrations, as the market rejects, ejects, and burns away the decaying layers of inefficient misallocation, fraud, etc. built up over the long Fiat Summer.

The proverbial Day of Reckoning is the Kondratiev Winter Solstice, when the total amount of fiat and fiat-priced assets are revaluated in terms of actual (IE physically present and accounted for, not fraudulent paper) gold.

Monero is up another 33%, again on record-ish volume, as investors begin to appreciate the value of a 100% fungible store of value with the same nice internet transportability features of Bitcoin.

My new avatar and personal text explain the rest.   8)

It is very difficult to predict the future prices of gold. But I am making a very long-term prediction. In my opinion, by 2035, the gold price will increase to $15,000 per oz (from $1,240 per oz as of now). The reason is that, by that time all the recoverable deposits of gold will be exhausted. The demand will increase by many times, but the supply will be near zero.

Such a price hike won't occur since you can note, the demand for gold as investment has reduced a lot due to investment on properties as well alternate currencies. So once when these alts bump sure the gold demand once again gets reduced.

Yeah, it certainly is interesting with how fractional lending can be applied to physical assets now, and not just fiat assets.

If there ever is a rush on the banks and people start trading in their gold certificates, it's going to be either very ugly r profitable for those who already have the physical goods...

It's not a safe investment, has never been a safe investment, and at this point, there is no reason to expect it to be. It's volatile as sin. It is the exact opposite of safe: it's speculative. This can change with mass adoption, but I'm not expecting it to any time in the near future.

Thanks!

It is just risk aversion.
When stock markets tank, people look for safe investment assets.
Gold and yen are natural beneficiaries.

I see gold as an obvious choice, but yen? US Treasuries are far safer than the yen, especially with the strong dollar currently.

Gold wont have a big fall in the near future.