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Title: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: nethack on February 15, 2016, 07:08:02 PM
SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDE MY SELF GOT SCAMMED SO I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO PREVENT THEM TO SCAM PEOPLE AGAIN OR YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS NONSENSE ADMINISTRATOR?



regards




Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Stroto on February 15, 2016, 07:11:17 PM
Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: DarkStar1O9 on February 15, 2016, 07:15:34 PM
Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
Sounds like the financial services section of craigslist lol.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: mexxer-2 on February 15, 2016, 07:18:50 PM
Your were the one stupid enough to put your money on it, now suffer I guess


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Stroto on February 15, 2016, 07:20:44 PM
Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
Sounds like the financial services section of craigslist lol.

lol well it is just om top of every topic in this section but I guess when people have BTCBTCBTC in their eyes they don't read it


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 15, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDE MY SELF GOT SCAMMED SO I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO PREVENT THEM TO SCAM PEOPLE AGAIN OR YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS NONSENSE ADMINISTRATOR?



regards




First, read the tidbit at the top of these threads. Never invest more than you can afford to lose! Also, it is impossible for them to be banned from the bitcoin network as anyone can generate their own private keys and get a bitcoin address. Same goes with doubling sites, anyone (basically) can open up a website. "Invest" smartly and you might be able to come out with a profit like some of us.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: nethack on February 15, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Your were the one stupid enough to put your money on it, now suffer I guess

hey i know you..you the one put negative trust on me right?btw im not suffer like u guess lol


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: nethack on February 15, 2016, 07:41:41 PM
Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.


i know this is gambling section.but doubler or ponzi scheme is not gambling!! >:( >:(


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Stroto on February 15, 2016, 07:48:49 PM
Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.


i know this is gambling section.but doubler or ponzi scheme is not gambling!! >:( >:(

Well some people only consider gambling "gambling" if the odds are safe and open like in the casino's and lotteries and stuff. For me this section here is a game. It is a game of a race against the clock of when it will scam or bust. So yeah I definitely see it as a gamble. You do your research, do the math, weigh in the potential losses against the potential profits, do a bit of logical thinking and reasoning and make up your mind on what to do. Patience is key.

Just wanted to add:

The only one who can double your coins is yourself  ;)


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 15, 2016, 07:52:47 PM

.....the problem is the whiners at the end, who rant and threaten lmao. Before investing they claim they know and they are only putting what they can afford to lose, but once the program scams, they cry. Typical.

I'm quoted this in my thread too.


P.S.

Quote
.... but doubler or ponzi scheme...

All doublers IS a ponzi scheme coz doubling of bitcoins impossible.


Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: JavaLove on February 15, 2016, 08:16:34 PM
Why ban them? I get it that you were scammed - I've been scammed too. In fact, when I first discovered bitcoin and this forum I saw all these different ponzis and never learnt how to actually invest properly. I would throw huge amounts in and get nothing back. Was I pissed off? Absolutely, but I never went ballistic like you are. I was mad and angry that I had money stolen from me but instead of saying ban all owners from this network - and the bitcoin network (which is impossible) I thought of it as a LESSON on how to spend my money.

Now that I have been scammed a million and one times I better understand how to manage my finances and where I should keep my money.

I am not trying to say scammers are good people or should continue what they're doing either. All I am saying is that you should look at being scammed from that perspective. You'll feel better. Plus, there is money to be made in this section! Everyday at least one ponzi a day opens that does pay for a few hours at the least. Some don't pay at all, and by being scammed once or twice you'll learn which sites are the best to spend your money. So that's why I am saying to not ban any ponzi at all. I've made a lot of money off of ponzis and encourage you to do the same as well, just know when to stop spending.

Invest once and never look back. That's how I invest. Depositing once on a ponzi is fine, twice is too much. If you develop a good pattern and strategy then you'll win. If you don't you'll fail and it's your own damn fault.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: noni on February 15, 2016, 09:29:35 PM
all lose money on these sites,

but the secret is in the strategy you'll use.

without forgetting

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are Likely to eventually lose any money That You gamble / "invest". Additionally, do not remove moderators Likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: supermoney on February 15, 2016, 11:23:30 PM
Bitcoin means freedom, at least for me.
So, we're basically supposed to do whatever we want with our bitcoins, including to invest into HYIPs.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: kaeluxdeuz on February 15, 2016, 11:52:02 PM
why ban them if you are in the gambling section.. HYIP, DOUBLER or any other is also gambling, you gamble and hope that owner doesn't run away.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Brob12321 on February 16, 2016, 01:15:46 AM
I don't think you can just all out say ban all doubler owners from the bitcoin network.  Doublers need to be seen as gambling, well the ones that aren't just scams from the start.  Don't ever take these as a legit investment you will regret it.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: condoras on February 16, 2016, 01:24:10 AM
I dont understand why all of you guys came in this thread and try to explain something that is impossible to do... :-\

If someone dont like or dont want to "play"/ gamble/ "invest" its his problem and nothing more or less.

This is the way that this "industry" works. You take it or leave it.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: alfaboy23 on February 16, 2016, 01:36:19 AM
Like I said...

That's why it is gambling section.

We gamble if the admin of the ponzi will pay or run with our bits. :D



Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 02:20:14 AM
Stop guys.

You don't understand what are you saying about.

You dicing somewhere ( like Primedice ) and you can win or lose even check hash after your bet.

But operator don't run away isn't?

Here what we see. You send your hard-earned coins and operator run away with your money.

That's not a gambling but THEFT!

You can name ponzi as gambling when you won, if ponzi wallet isn't empty or lose instead.

When next "depositor" come in you know that got "profit".

But if operator run away with your coins that's not a game. That's fucking scam.

And you agree for that????

That's sucks.

In my visibility such "operator" should get soldering iron into his fucking ass.


Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Everybitbit on February 16, 2016, 02:55:12 AM
if they are banned, they can anytime create another account as newbie again.. and come with another doubler. ;D
theres no way to stop actually, some people are in profit using doubler. well invest with care. :)


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 03:17:46 AM
I think that we needs some radically changes here.
I don't know exactly how but something like that:
I saw that almost all of doublers accept micro-transaction.
He give you some small amount, say 0.001 and "double" it.
So you have 0.002.
After that he allow you withdraw 0.002.
After that it's up to you to send 0.001 again or not.
If he such "gentle word saver". if you send again, he will"double" 0.001 and everyone happy.
If you decide not to send again- not a big deal coz 0.001 not so big money,
and here will be equal chances win or lose in 2 sides. From him or from you.
That's will be real game not a fucking scam.

Let's think together and setup rules.
If "operator" don't agree for our rules we don't send him coins.

Think something like that will cut a lot of scammers here.

Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: nethack on February 16, 2016, 03:22:02 AM
I think that we needs some radically changes here.
I don't know exactly how but something like that:
I saw that almost all of doublers accept micro-transaction.
He give you some small amount, say 0.001 and "double" it.
So you have 0.002.
After that he allow you withdraw 0.002.
After that it's up to you to send 0.001 again or not.
If he such "gentle word saver". if you send again, he will"double" 0.001 and everyone happy.
If you decide not to send again- not a big deal coz 0.001 not so big money,
and here will be equal chances win or lose in 2 sides. From him or from you.
That's will be real game not a fucking scam.

Let's think together and setup rules.
If "operator" don't agree for our rules we don't send him coins.

Think something like that will cut a lot of scammers here.

Regards.

yes im totally agree with you sir!!


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 03:24:39 AM
Moreover. In my previous game 2 Years ago I did such things and you know - everyone send back. Only one moron steal my coins but not so big deal.


Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 03:41:46 AM
More.
Operator can also get  some % for yoursellf for his honest profit. (After second "deposit"  means).

And he will earn real trust too. Not like now everywhere [TRUSTED] so don't need new account again and again.

But **we** will setup rules. Don'like - OK, go away.


P.S.
Without **our** rules almost (if all) users will lose coins. For now % who won too low.
If game- let's game.

Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: lolnabtc on February 16, 2016, 05:00:25 AM
Totally agree, most (all) of them are scam.
They will just pay few payments or even just 1.  >:(


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Brob12321 on February 16, 2016, 06:48:38 AM
I think that we needs some radically changes here.
I don't know exactly how but something like that:
I saw that almost all of doublers accept micro-transaction.
He give you some small amount, say 0.001 and "double" it.
So you have 0.002.
After that he allow you withdraw 0.002.
After that it's up to you to send 0.001 again or not.
If he such "gentle word saver". if you send again, he will"double" 0.001 and everyone happy.
If you decide not to send again- not a big deal coz 0.001 not so big money,
and here will be equal chances win or lose in 2 sides. From him or from you.
That's will be real game not a fucking scam.

Let's think together and setup rules.
If "operator" don't agree for our rules we don't send him coins.

Think something like that will cut a lot of scammers here.

Regards.

No point to gamble with 8 cents, complete waste of time for a huge majority of people, nobody would both using a microtransaction doubler to make 4 cents in few days.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Alvin Fahriza on February 16, 2016, 07:44:43 AM
SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDE MY SELF GOT SCAMMED SO I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO PREVENT THEM TO SCAM PEOPLE AGAIN OR YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS NONSENSE ADMINISTRATOR?



regards



LOL you can see the quote in this section dude. dont join if you can afford to lose. dont be greedy in here!


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: nickaizoku on February 16, 2016, 07:50:51 AM
this guy is desprate.. i guess lose alot at investment program..  :-\ thats sad news for you.
well i lose alot too in this kind of investment mate.. but seriously i lose what ive earn, and what i can afford to lose..
same goes to you.. only invest with what you can lose.. not all of your treasure :D


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Adadators on February 16, 2016, 07:51:56 AM
http://flexybit.com/ SCAM. 24 HOURS WAİT AND NOT PAY.  CHAT DİSABLE, NO  SUPPORT. FUCK YOU YOUR MOTHER ADMİN!!!!!!



Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: nostal02 on February 16, 2016, 09:08:31 AM
http://flexybit.com/ SCAM. 24 HOURS WAİT AND NOT PAY.  CHAT DİSABLE, NO  SUPPORT. FUCK YOU YOUR MOTHER ADMİN!!!!!!




Wow...
So much hate buddy...
Better chill out...


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Stroto on February 16, 2016, 09:32:03 AM
I think that we needs some radically changes here.
I don't know exactly how but something like that:
I saw that almost all of doublers accept micro-transaction.
He give you some small amount, say 0.001 and "double" it.
So you have 0.002.
After that he allow you withdraw 0.002.
After that it's up to you to send 0.001 again or not.
If he such "gentle word saver". if you send again, he will"double" 0.001 and everyone happy.
If you decide not to send again- not a big deal coz 0.001 not so big money,
and here will be equal chances win or lose in 2 sides. From him or from you.
That's will be real game not a fucking scam.

Let's think together and setup rules.
If "operator" don't agree for our rules we don't send him coins.

Think something like that will cut a lot of scammers here.

Regards.

No point to gamble with 8 cents, complete waste of time for a huge majority of people, nobody would both using a microtransaction doubler to make 4 cents in few days.

Exactly my thoughts.
If you want to form a group that does that be my guest just don't tell others what to join or not. It is almost as annoying as refspam


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Xsinx on February 16, 2016, 09:33:33 AM
Banning them will not lessen the scamming, if doubler will be ban, tripler will rise to take it place :)


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: kolesozw on February 16, 2016, 11:10:42 AM
SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDE MY SELF GOT SCAMMED SO I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO PREVENT THEM TO SCAM PEOPLE AGAIN OR YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS NONSENSE ADMINISTRATOR?



regards




LOL Yet another butthurt noobie scammed by a ponzi. You're pathetic.

Anyways admin/mods can't ban doubler owner , even scammers.

You've been warned from the beginning and its not the doubler that scammed you, it is your stupidity that ripped you off


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: crazyivan on February 16, 2016, 11:51:45 AM
Banning will achieve nothing. Using your brain not send them money will. Control your greed people, money does not fall down from the sky.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: MTBTT on February 16, 2016, 11:56:42 AM
Totally agree, most (all) of them are scam.
They will just pay few payments or even just 1.  >:(
That is risk of it mate. thats why you need learn the risk before playing, so you will not blame anyone


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
Hi guys!

Don't need to discuss about ban coz ban useless.

Let's talk about rules.

I mean about community rules. Community is big.

So we can setup rules and send coins to operator who agree for rules.

A'm saying again. Let's think together.

I got to know too. But I don't know how.

Maybe we can setup multisig ponzi wallet and such "doubler" should be "deposit" like users do 50% or whatever
from incoming money to that multisig wallet so it will be impossible to steal coins.

After "doubling" cycle that amount (minus some (honest) % to "doubler" ) going to user and to doubler too
50/50 or whatever.

Everybody happy :)

And such "doubling" will do serious "doubler" who have real money, not a obviously scammer.

And explain that in social networks too to prevent newbies from scam.

That will be real game as what I'm said before.

P.S.
Let's open discussion.
Also I can write such soft (not for free but we can think about that in open discussion :) Think all work should be paid)
After that I will open code for revision and program be opensource. Key point here is that multisig wallet:one password will hold
user, other password hold "doubler" third - trusted member e.t.c In multisig wallet there can be several passwords.

Or maybe more easy way: Here onboard we setup one multisig wallet (don't need any program) so any doubler who wanna play here also do "deposit". Passwords hold user, doubler and several trusted members so
noone can steal money

Let's think together.

P.S. In this case don't need micro transaction. Any amount will be acceptable.

Anyway we cant leave situation like right now.

Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Pattart on February 16, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
banned the owner doubler, is not the right way, most of them are a newbie, they can easily create an account


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: onlinedragon on February 16, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
So scammers always like to use this forum and promote the biggest scams. I totally agree that topics opened were you can know people will get scammed always need to be closed and removed. People there post get removed when it don't fits the moderators his guidelines except when you try to scam people. Some scam situations can be smelled by the admins and moderators from far away. With there advanced tools they can see more from the scammers then we can see. With that info they can also somethimes know people will get scammed.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
Again, don't need to discuss about ban coz ban useless.

What are you guys think about *** our *** rules here?


Regards.


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: Stroto on February 16, 2016, 01:07:17 PM
Again, don't need to discuss about ban coz ban useless.

What are you guys think about *** our *** rules here?


Regards.

Maybe you should start your own topic as the topic is "PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!"
I'm not gonna discus escrow or multisig doublers anymore. Don't believe in them, proof me wrong


Title: Re: PLS BAN ALL DOUBLER OWNER FROM THIS FORUM AND BITCOIN NETWORK!!!
Post by: fedor3327 on February 16, 2016, 01:12:19 PM
You are right.

Will open new topic.


Regards.