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trying it :)

Cool. Just keep in mind this is beta quality at best. Payouts if a block is hit will be extremely manual... as in I'll search through the logs by hand to verify then manually process the payment.

What is a valid address?
1. using old bitcoin 11.2 wallet address?
2. using a brand new address created with the new classic wallet?

There is no difference. Bitcoin Classic does not create a new form of wallet addresses.

I have to restart for some changes/upgrades. Standby...

Restart done @ 9:45 PM EST: doubled RAM and tweaked some settings.

My only question is "why?"
Why should anybody use your pool instead of ck?
Why should anybody believe you 25btc if your pool find a block?
Why do you not know anything about orphans?
and etc.

so basically, we can just enter our current bitcoin address, and in case we hit a block, export the private key and import it in bitcoin classic?
Sounds cool... I'm going to fire up my sidehack stick when i get home this evening :)


Is the ck solo mining pool also mining for the classic chain?

Lol, no, I doubt CK's pool will support Classic.

Why? Because there wasn't already a "solo pool" running on Bitcoin Classic. Also because by the nature of my mining setup I needed to put an instance of ckpool up, so I figured I would open it up to whoever else wanted to use it.

Why instead of -ck's pool? If you want to support the Bitcoin Classic hardfork effort with your hashrate.

Why should anyone believe me 25btc? I guess you mean why should anyone believe I will actually pay out? I suppose I can't prove that I will until we actually hit a block. I consider myself trustworthy and have done business with a number of forum members here over the past year or two with not a hint of untruthful actions or words. Other than that you just have to take my word.

Why do I not know anything about orphans? I do actually know things about orphans. I'm using -ck's own open source pool software in a minimal setup on modest hardware. The only added risk of orphans over -ck's pool is that he probably runs on better hardware and may have direct connections to other fast nodes or the relay network. I'm considering connecting to the relay network, but it appears it is no longer maintained.

That might work. I'm honestly not 100% sure how it all works when the hardfork happens. Pre-hardfork coins will still be valid on both chains I think. I don't think wallets need to change unless the wallet you're using is bitcoind or bitcoin-qt. Even then, it might still be OK. All that matters is if your transactions end up in a block on the new chain and not the old. I believe If all goes as planned, all miners and pools will switch and it won't be an issue.

Shouldn't this thread be in "Altcoins"?
 :P

He said he will switch if the hardfork happens.

Note that if the hardfork happens and is permanent, it is in a miners or pools best interest to switch. There is a 28 day grace period for people to switch. If the initial fork is with around 75% of hashing power as planned, then mining on the old chain will become a waste of hash power AND blocks will be found very slowly on that chain, making propagation of blocks on the new chain even more prevalent.

Can't tell if making a joke.

Some make that argument, but Bitcoin Classic is not an altcoin. Classic Nodes still act exactly the same as Core nodes (or btcd nodes or any other bitcoin node) until 75% of the last 1000 blocks are mined by Classic nodes. At that point a 28 day timer starts. If that 75% level is maintained for that 28 days then on day 29 the Classic nodes can start processing, mining, and relaying blocks larger than 1 MB.

Edit: please see OP for info about using worker names in addition to your username. It works the same way as ckpool.

It was a mild bit of mischief I admit


Some people, not a million miles away from being the owner of this forum, may disagree.
Thanks for the info re timer, didn't know that.

Yeah. I know. The funny thing is, if he really believes that stance, then technically it isn't true until a hardfork happens. Up until then all the classic nodes are running on and helping strengthen the one true Scotsman's bitcoin network.

Its not exactly untrue. Its still a fork, which will continue with the existing btc blockchain. Which still means its a different coin, which means its an altcoin. However if 75%+ decide that its the new way to go, then the fork will just become a part of Bitcoin's history as a whole.

However i think the topic is a bit moot, because it won't happen. China has much more than 25% of the hashrate. Ergo this won't happen. (They dont want it)

I wouldn't be so sure. I guess only time will tell. Antpool has been testing classic on one of their nodes. They actually solved a few classic blocks last I checked.

Last time I read anything on the subject, it sounded like China actually wants 2mb but prefers it to come from core. I think there's some meeting planned between core and the miners that classic was specifically not invited to. There was some thought among some people that the miners would use classic as a bargaining chip to get core to promise a block size limit increase hardfork by a certain time or else they'd just mine on classic, basically getting what they want (block size limit increase) one way or the other.

These things change every few days though so who knows.

is it worth to try it out with 0.6TH power ? I never mined solo before. How little is chance to find a block with this mining power ? once in a 10 year or maybe 100 ?

Various ways to calculate it, but use any coin calculator  and figure out how long it will take to hit 25 BTC.

For example: https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

Put in your details and the divide your daily income in terms of BTC into 25.

Of course difficulty changes over time so it will change, but at current difficulty you're looking at 37 years.

Of course the exchange rate of bitcoin will change too.

Oh and this is all based on probability, so in theory you could hit a block in an hour (super unlikely), or never hit one in 500 years.

I don't know your financial situation, but with 0.6 TH, you're looking at 78 cents of income in terms of USD per day. That's less than the dollar value of the gas I burn driving to work. It's less than I spend on coffee. Trading that off for a very small chance of making 10,500 USD worth of BTC might be worth it.

Your odds are on average 37 years. So a very low chance to get one in the following month. Then it will maybe be something like on average 50 years in a month and so on. Its not impossible however.

But i would do it at a trusted pool, not pointed at a bitcoin fork.

Please don't insinuate that I'm not trustworthy. Or that bitcoin classic is somehow not trustworthy.

And anyway, until 75% of previous 1000 blocks are mined on bitcoin classic nodes, there is no functional difference between bitcoin classic and bitcoin core (at version 0.11.2).

And finally, the whole point here is for a "solo pool" for people who support an increased block size limit through hard fork via bitcoin classic. I assume anyone wanting to mine here has already decided they support that. 

I bluntly mean that there's no proof that you are trustworthy, not that you are untrustworthy. And the recommendation is that there is a trusted, known service, with probably better infrastructure/faster, with proven effectiveness with very low orphan rate, with lower fee, that is also much more professional than what sound like a "basement operation".

For China and Bigger block. I reckon 2mB would be nice and not too bad for China. I think they were afraid of 8mB+ ongoing raise, which would probably eventually cause them problems with keeping up.

If Classic is only a static 2mB raise then i reckon China MIGHT be inclined to all say yes, but i suppose we'll have to wait and see.

Ill just leave it then.
Im not paying for electricity so its better than nothing.

Good luck.  Hope you find some blocks.

Me too. Thanks!

Currently testing connecting the pool to the relay network. Expect possible interruptions.

Relay network test were successful. We're now currently on the relay network. Should reduce block change times dramatically.

2016-02-26 @ 7:00 PM EST: Doing some maintenance for the next few hrs. Expect intermittent connection.

Maintenance complete as of 2016-02-29 @ 12:49 PM EST

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