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Title: ADVICE PLEASE - P2P pool payout 'difference' ????
Post by: bilabonic on February 23, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
Hi All

I currently have about 16Th and mine on p2p pools using this as a guide for best node -

http://nodes.p2pool.co/

The top Node ALWAYS comes out as Elizium pool for me whenever i do i scan using it BUT when i look at other pools and they list -

'Payouts if a block were found NOW:'

I get HIGHER payouts on other nodes stated in the list of payout addresses ?

They are showing as -
 
Elzium -                                  Mean:  -0.311BTC (Graph, not list)
http://xt.warp2pool.eu:9332/static/        -0.34641829
http://cammello.agaland.it:9332/static/  -0.35065378
http://p2pool.science:9332/static/          -0.34867615

So how accurate are these ?

Do i trust the scanner or the payouts listed on each node ??

There is a difference of 0.03965378/12/$17 at THIS MOMENT................(using Preev)

Thanks


Title: Re: ADVICE PLEASE - P2P pool payout 'difference' ????
Post by: wariner on February 23, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Hi All

I currently have about 16Th and mine on p2p pools using this as a guide for best node -

http://nodes.p2pool.co/

The top Node ALWAYS comes out as Elizium pool for me whenever i do i scan using it BUT when i look at other pools and they list -

'Payouts if a block were found NOW:'

I get HIGHER payouts on other nodes stated in the list of payout addresses ?

They are showing as -
 
Elzium -                                  Mean:  -0.311BTC (Graph, not list)
http://xt.warp2pool.eu:9332/static/        -0.34641829
http://cammello.agaland.it:9332/static/  -0.35065378
http://p2pool.science:9332/static/          -0.34867615

So how accurate are these ?

Do i trust the scanner or the payouts listed on each node ??

There is a difference of 0.03965378/12/$17 at THIS MOMENT................(using Preev)

Thanks

The difference depends on how many fees they are included in a block from a node. See the "Current block value:" if higher you earn more if that node find a block.

The fees are included from bitcoind (It depends on the configuration and if bitcoind was restarted recently the fees are lower and then increase with time..).

Some nodes using restrictive configurations to have less fees, this allows to have bitcoind more faster.

When you choose a node also checks "Current block value:"

IMHO ;)


Title: Re: ADVICE PLEASE - P2P pool payout 'difference' ????
Post by: bilabonic on February 23, 2016, 06:48:10 PM
Hi All

I currently have about 16Th and mine on p2p pools using this as a guide for best node -

http://nodes.p2pool.co/

The top Node ALWAYS comes out as Elizium pool for me whenever i do i scan using it BUT when i look at other pools and they list -

'Payouts if a block were found NOW:'

I get HIGHER payouts on other nodes stated in the list of payout addresses ?

They are showing as -
 
Elzium -                                  Mean:  -0.311BTC (Graph, not list)
http://xt.warp2pool.eu:9332/static/        -0.34641829
http://cammello.agaland.it:9332/static/  -0.35065378
http://p2pool.science:9332/static/          -0.34867615

So how accurate are these ?

Do i trust the scanner or the payouts listed on each node ??

There is a difference of 0.03965378/12/$17 at THIS MOMENT................(using Preev)

Thanks

The difference depends on how many fees they are included in a block from a node. See the "Current block value:" if higher you earn more if that node find a block.

The fees are included from bitcoind (It depends on the configuration and if bitcoind was restarted recently the fees are lower and then increase with time..).

Some nodes using restrictive configurations to have less fees, this allows to have bitcoind more faster.

When you choose a node also checks "Current block value:"

IMHO ;)

The block value DOES correspond with the payout stated on each node !!!

The higher the Block Value the the payout.......

Not sure to swap node priority again now to - ?

1 - http://cammello.agaland.it:9332/static/     - Payout: 0.3721171 / Current block value: 25.35813989
2 - http://p2pool.science:9332/static/             - Payout: 0.3706548/  Current block value: 25.26078153
3 - http://xt.warp2pool.eu:9332/static/           - Payout: 0.36951606/ Current block value: 25.17836745
4 - http://elizium.name/userstats.html            - Payout: 0.329/Current block value: 25.01625234

 ??? ??? ???

Thanks for reply  :)



Title: Re: ADVICE PLEASE - P2P pool payout 'difference' ????
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on February 23, 2016, 06:52:18 PM
You could always run your own p2pool node... you'd know exactly what kind of payout to expect because you'd be the one setting the values :)


Title: Re: ADVICE PLEASE - P2P pool payout 'difference' ????
Post by: wariner on February 24, 2016, 06:07:03 AM

The block value DOES correspond with the payout stated on each node !!!

The higher the Block Value the the payout.......

Not sure to swap node priority again now to - ?

1 - http://cammello.agaland.it:9332/static/     - Payout: 0.3721171 / Current block value: 25.35813989
2 - http://p2pool.science:9332/static/             - Payout: 0.3706548/  Current block value: 25.26078153
3 - http://xt.warp2pool.eu:9332/static/           - Payout: 0.36951606/ Current block value: 25.17836745
4 - http://elizium.name/userstats.html            - Payout: 0.329/Current block value: 25.01625234

 ??? ??? ???

Thanks for reply  :)

The "block value" it is not the main fact to consider. When you connect to a node p2pool the most important data to consider are:

1 - Latency or Ping (higher increase reject share = minor "gains")
2 - Node Efficiency and miner efficiency
optional:
3 - Know the owner of the node (He is concerned only gain or important to him is the health of bitcoin? Who is reflected with my ideas?)
4 - If the three above are similar between two nodes, you can view as a parameter "block value" to guide your choice...

..but....but....

The "block value" it could be higher, but contain fewer transactions with low (or 0) fees...but a "low block value" of one node "might also" contain many more transactions with low fees respect to a node with high block value.....better "high block value" with 100 transactions or "low block value" with 500 transactions? ...and here we return to the point 3  ;)
(is an example might also a node with "high block value" it contains more transactions rispect another node..all depends on how you configure bitcoin....on my nodes accept transactions with low (or 0) fees but this leads to fill the memory and it is perhaps this that reduces the block value on my nodes..
Example on my nodes with 2 different configuration:
1 - Total block value: 25.131898 BTC including 518 transactions
2 - Total block value: 25.181653 BTC including 466 transactions
If you are interested in the gain go to option 2 ...whether your interest is the bitcoin go to option 1....

ps: google translate  ;)


Title: Re: ADVICE PLEASE - P2P pool payout 'difference' ????
Post by: os2sam on February 24, 2016, 12:14:19 PM
P2Pool has it's own support thread.  As do many of the public nodes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg231846#msg231846