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Title: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Intermediary on February 28, 2016, 02:00:22 AM What happened: I traded with this guy with confidence because he does not fit the profile of a scammer.
After sending me a private message in response to my thread post, he suggested that we go to Skype due to my limits on sending private messages here. I went first, sending him my bitcoin, out of respect to his status as a hero member and even upped the amount of bitcoin that I wanted to trade (0.40BTC for $200) . But even though it was gone from my end, he said he wanted to wait for 3 confirmations, which took longer than the standard 30 minutes because I'd applied the minimum fee. At that point there was just 1 confirmation. Then he said he had to go out and be gone for 3 hours. He promised on his return, he'd send the agreed amount by Paypal. I returned 4 hours later and he was still shown as away and I was getting no replies to him on Skype. There was no payment to my Paypal. Almost 12 hours later, still getting no reply from him on Skype, and still believing this is just a misunderstanding I wanted to give him a chance to explain to me what was happening as I saw he had been active here on this site in recent minutes (although his status is showing as offline here too) Surprise, surprise, he has blocked my private messages. And there are probably going to be several other scam reports about this member as he's clearly been taking forum members to the cleaners today. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123876 Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378875.0 Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379371.0 Amount Scammed: 0.40BTC Payment Method: Bitcoins Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/address/1KVShC3a84BjDGqPW8Ecne1QJ7qRgmfLPG: PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/jYPQcbf ; http://imgur.com/8VCeDEh ; http://imgur.com/DSN7tVl Additional Notes: Allowing scammers to buy and sell accounts makes a mockery of the Hero Member system. He'll be back with another Hero Member account. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 28, 2016, 02:06:24 AM There's no "hero member system" but your point about account sales is well taken. Sorry you and the other guy got scammed from this asshole.
Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Intermediary on February 28, 2016, 02:24:12 AM Thanks,
He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: whywefight on February 28, 2016, 02:44:29 AM Thanks, He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Phildo on February 28, 2016, 03:11:18 AM Thanks, He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. And even if they do pm you, I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is significant value to accounts on here anyway. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 28, 2016, 03:29:02 AM Thanks, He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. And even if they do pm you, I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is significant value to accounts on here anyway. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: enhu on February 28, 2016, 03:46:36 AM Thanks, He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. And even if they do pm you, I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is significant value to accounts on here anyway. Low Life. Its a waste of account though, he could have earned more than $200 with his Hero account. Getting to become a Hero is not joke as you have to spend a lot of time here in the forum. Hope everyone get to paint his account in red. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: moneybat on February 28, 2016, 04:11:37 AM Heres how I think the scam works, the accounts password is most likely compromised by a hacker... hacker sends message to victim to speak on skype then deletes messages from unsuspected heros account..(hacker doesnt change the pass just uses it to scam) I mean thats all I could think of right now, unless hes really gonna waste a hero account on that.. like the guy mentioned above it being wortharound 200$
Maybe admins on here should implement a monthly passrenewal before signing in , to stop these from happening Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: jjoorriissjjuuhh on February 28, 2016, 04:27:34 AM Yes a lot of people reuse passwords on different sites.
But in this case he is denying everything and saying he did not even send the PMs. And he got blocked. A hacked account would not care about someone pming him I think. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Intermediary on February 28, 2016, 05:14:00 AM He did pm me here on Bitcointalk first, and in his 3rd message to me gave me his Skype details here via the private message system. Not the other way round. Although now he denies that happened. But I'm happy to give one of the moderators my log in details so they can see my inbox, with his messages, especially if that assists the OP of the other thread about this thief. While he's claiming that we are fabricating evidence, he's continuing to build his portfolio of victims here.
if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: moneybat on February 28, 2016, 05:58:47 AM Yes a lot of people reuse passwords on different sites. But in this case he is denying everything and saying he did not even send the PMs. And he got blocked. A hacked account would not care about someone pming him I think. Yeah the hacker deleted the messages on heros account. Basically confusing both hero account owner and buyer. Either way bad news for both sides Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: FriendlyChemist on February 28, 2016, 09:31:33 AM Ahh..This man wanted to sell his account to me , i wonder what would happen if i would buy it.
hi do you want to buy my account hi do you want to buy my account Price , if it suits my budget then I can buy. Anhh...I am really sorry I can only afford 0.12 , already btc price is high these days. Ok 0.13 is okay. you already checked my account which you are buying Yeah, I have checked the account ,and I will prefer escrow. What you say? other option is you have proofs I am selling this account to you so you can send payment and I send you password but if you want I am still fine using escrow Yes , but I wanna go with escrow, can I catch you after 3 hours, I have a work to do. find a trusted escrow Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 28, 2016, 12:02:02 PM and yet still no one negs him??
Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Cresciuanto on February 28, 2016, 12:32:36 PM and yet still no one negs him?? no... it seems that no one with level one trust left a negative to this users :( Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Shield on February 28, 2016, 01:47:49 PM and yet still no one negs him?? I checked his response and looks like DT members are looking for more proofs before giving him negativeTitle: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: mexxer-2 on February 28, 2016, 03:02:20 PM As for me tagging:
Two scam accusations against this Hero member now, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379681.0 Well I'm following the opinion of you trolls, can't speak for othersStill no neg rep from ANY DT1 or 2... this proves CLEARLY that the system doesn't work with the trust abusers currently in DT1 and 2. Enough said. From my conversation with the other active "scam busters" , we might not be tagging anyone for a week based solely on suspicion when the other person disagrees with the negative rating. Edit: Although none expect as much as a thanks for the "job" , least you can do is not offer a "fuck you" when tagging. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: 24hralttrade on February 28, 2016, 03:36:17 PM You guys really think he is going to sell his account for 50 bucks?
Eso is a well respected Digibyte dev from the beginning and me and allot of others can confirm he is not a scammer at all. This whole story is complete bullshit and i really dont get why this is started, The only thing eso is doing on btctalk is supporting the Digibyte community and helping others out when there is a problem. fucking 50 bucks for a account with allot of reputation and information.... C'mon can't you do better then this? And besides all this BS, Look back at posts from eso @ the dgb forum and you can clearly see he has a whole other way of communication and he can speak proper ENG. So mod, We can shut this down now? Ahh..This man wanted to sell his account to me , i wonder what would happen if i would buy it. hi do you want to buy my account hi do you want to buy my account Price , if it suits my budget then I can buy. Anhh...I am really sorry I can only afford 0.12 , already btc price is high these days. Ok 0.13 is okay. you already checked my account which you are buying Yeah, I have checked the account ,and I will prefer escrow. What you say? other option is you have proofs I am selling this account to you so you can send payment and I send you password but if you want I am still fine using escrow Yes , but I wanna go with escrow, can I catch you after 3 hours, I have a work to do. find a trusted escrow Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: FriendlyChemist on February 28, 2016, 03:38:21 PM I wonder where is ecua mobi , shorena , xester ?
Are they waiting for some cakes to celebrate, on general occasion they are ahead in tagging , but today is genuine reason and they are licking ice cream. DT members you must be active. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: mexxer-2 on February 28, 2016, 03:40:25 PM I wonder where is ecua mobi , shorena , xester ? Are they waiting for some cakes to celebrate, on general occasion they are ahead in tagging , but today is genuine reason and they are licking ice cream. DT members you must be active. As for me tagging: Two scam accusations against this Hero member now, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379681.0 Well I'm following the opinion of you trolls, can't speak for othersStill no neg rep from ANY DT1 or 2... this proves CLEARLY that the system doesn't work with the trust abusers currently in DT1 and 2. Enough said. From my conversation with the other active "scam busters" , we might not be tagging anyone for a week based solely on suspicion when the other person disagrees with the negative rating. Edit: Although none expect as much as a thanks for the "job" , least you can do is not offer a "fuck you" when tagging. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: FriendlyChemist on February 28, 2016, 03:51:33 PM @mexxer-2 , I am much disappointed by your way of troll, yes this is troll that you are now waiting for days to tag people like people make list of act that they do on weekends.
Really pathetic, I have been following you since you were FM and I was happy that someone is vigil here on forum , but all I feel now is vain. Though, 24hralttrade this guy favors the eco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123876) saying my words are BS , and accuser did not offered me a 0.13 btc offer , let's make things simpler , if you have guts I can clarify al things ,just deposit 1 btc (we each) to escrow address and escrow takes my account and the one who is right he takes off 1.5 btc , escrow get 0.5 btc. If you don't have guts to do that , don't quote my posts. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: 24hralttrade on February 28, 2016, 03:56:35 PM lol dude, Really? You really think im going to escrow 1 btc with you for this complete BS.... Oh and you can pick the escrow, Right?
You are sounding like a scammmer to me now.. please go on with your 2 suckpuppet accounts, I think we can clearly see this is all a set-up. Goodbye Idiot Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: mexxer-2 on February 28, 2016, 03:57:46 PM @mexxer-2 , I am much disappointed by your way of troll, yes this is troll that you are now waiting for days to tag people like people make list of act that they do on weekends. I do(highly) suspect him of scamming but I'm following the troll's advice for now, if you want details go for the ~5 thread opened in meta and rep about meReally pathetic, I have been following you since you were FM and I was happy that someone is vigil here on forum , but all I feel now is vain. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: FriendlyChemist on February 28, 2016, 04:01:55 PM lol dude, Really? You really think im going to escrow 1 btc with you for this complete BS.... Oh and you can pick the escrow, Right? You are sounding like a scammmer to me now.. please go on with your 2 suckpuppet accounts, I think we can clearly see this is all a set-up. Goodbye Idiot I am extremely feel that you are supporter of Eco (who is now a scammer) , anyways i am a man with guts , any time you feel to check the words that i quoted about selling you can challenge me , i am a man , i were you i would have accepted this challenge because of former what i said. I was never going to reply this thread again but you quoted my post and called it a BS , take care next time. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: FriendlyChemist on February 28, 2016, 04:05:18 PM @mexxer-2 , I am much disappointed by your way of troll, yes this is troll that you are now waiting for days to tag people like people make list of act that they do on weekends. I do(highly) suspect him of scamming but I'm following the troll's advice for now, if you want details go for the ~5 thread opened in meta and rep about meReally pathetic, I have been following you since you were FM and I was happy that someone is vigil here on forum , but all I feel now is vain. common Mexxer-2 , even if a newbie is genuine it hurts me when he is scammed , but in this scenario all this happened because the accuser was so called reputed , i give you a challenge , ask the newbies who got scammed about their passwords and check their PM details , i am sure you will find the truth. Newbie often lacks voice that is why they quit this forum and bitcoin. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: mexxer-2 on February 28, 2016, 04:07:00 PM i give you a challenge , ask the newbies who got scammed about their passwords and check their PM details If I have conclusive proof, I may tag him and let others know as well. Don't think any of them are willing to give their login credentials to someone like shorena though.Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: electronicash on February 28, 2016, 04:18:29 PM Heres how I think the scam works, the accounts password is most likely compromised by a hacker... hacker sends message to victim to speak on skype then deletes messages from unsuspected heros account..(hacker doesnt change the pass just uses it to scam) I mean thats all I could think of right now, unless hes really gonna waste a hero account on that.. like the guy mentioned above it being wortharound 200$ Maybe admins on here should implement a monthly passrenewal before signing in , to stop these from happening This would really be a pain in the ass if implemented. And i mean there is no comfort to this and will only make people kept recovering passwords every now and then. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: shorena on February 28, 2016, 05:17:16 PM -snip- DT members you must be active. I must nothing, this is my free time same as yours. Wipe that entitlement of your face and stop derailing the thread. Less bullshit offtopic post let me catch up quicker. Intermediary agreed to let me access their account to vouch for the PMs legitimacy. Will update this post as soon as there is more. Edit: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- source of address -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg3866954#msg3866954 the screenshots of 3 PMs: https://i.imgur.com/kXA80JW.png https://i.imgur.com/IGx7YwG.png Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: taxmanmt5 on February 28, 2016, 05:26:00 PM @FriendlyChemist I really understand the pain which you can have by losing 200$
I too lot initially falling prey to a username for 600 $ (Not in this Forum Though) I suggest members not to deal directly and utilize the services of escrow. Even if we loose small amounts towards fees we will be in safer side Hope Truth wins in this case :) Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: mexxer-2 on February 28, 2016, 05:36:10 PM Tagged, thanks for the confirmation shorena
Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Intermediary on February 28, 2016, 05:57:32 PM Thank you for the vindication, Shorena.
Hopefully esotericizm won't suggest that you also photoshopped my personal message box! quote author=shorena link=topic=1379681.msg14039918#msg14039918 date=1456679836] -snip- DT members you must be active. I must nothing, this is my free time same as yours. Wipe that entitlement of your face and stop derailing the thread. Less bullshit offtopic post let me catch up quicker. Intermediary agreed to let me access their account to vouch for the PMs legitimacy. Will update this post as soon as there is more. Edit: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- source of address -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg3866954#msg3866954 the screenshots of 3 PMs: https://i.imgur.com/kXA80JW.png https://i.imgur.com/IGx7YwG.png [/quote] Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: FriendlyChemist on February 28, 2016, 06:09:07 PM You guys really think he is going to sell his account for 50 bucks? Eso is a well respected Digibyte dev from the beginning and me and allot of others can confirm he is not a scammer at all. This whole story is complete bullshit and i really dont get why this is started, The only thing eso is doing on btctalk is supporting the Digibyte community and helping others out when there is a problem. fucking 50 bucks for a account with allot of reputation and information.... C'mon can't you do better then this? And besides all this BS, Look back at posts from eso @ the dgb forum and you can clearly see he has a whole other way of communication and he can speak proper ENG. So mod, We can shut this down now? Despite of your Defending that scammer could not escape from Justice , anyways i really appreciate your labor in defending him. Next time remember this before vouching for others. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Phildo on February 28, 2016, 06:43:39 PM Thanks, He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. And even if they do pm you, I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is significant value to accounts on here anyway. Low Life. Its a waste of account though, he could have earned more than $200 with his Hero account. Getting to become a Hero is not joke as you have to spend a lot of time here in the forum. Hope everyone get to paint his account in red. How can you earn those 200 bucks? Sig campaign for months? Getting ripped off by selling the account ot another scumbag? Why not just take what you can get now? Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: bitkapp on February 28, 2016, 09:21:01 PM You guys really think he is going to sell his account for 50 bucks? Eso is a well respected Digibyte dev from the beginning and me and allot of others can confirm he is not a scammer at all. This whole story is complete bullshit and i really dont get why this is started, The only thing eso is doing on btctalk is supporting the Digibyte community and helping others out when there is a problem. fucking 50 bucks for a account with allot of reputation and information.... C'mon can't you do better then this? And besides all this BS, Look back at posts from eso @ the dgb forum and you can clearly see he has a whole other way of communication and he can speak proper ENG. So mod, We can shut this down now? Ahh..This man wanted to sell his account to me , i wonder what would happen if i would buy it. hi do you want to buy my account hi do you want to buy my account Price , if it suits my budget then I can buy. Anhh...I am really sorry I can only afford 0.12 , already btc price is high these days. Ok 0.13 is okay. you already checked my account which you are buying Yeah, I have checked the account ,and I will prefer escrow. What you say? other option is you have proofs I am selling this account to you so you can send payment and I send you password but if you want I am still fine using escrow Yes , but I wanna go with escrow, can I catch you after 3 hours, I have a work to do. find a trusted escrow Esotericizm is in fact a core DigiByte developer and this slander could frankly be characterized as fraud or public defamation (which are illegal FYI). I've worked with him and he is a trustworthy very well respected and knowledgeable member of not only the DigiByte but the bitcoin community. I hope this topic is resolved soon by the moderators as this is so obviously a Photoshopped piece of garbage (its so amateur its not even funny). Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Lutpin on February 28, 2016, 09:23:02 PM Esotericizm is in fact a core DigiByte developer and this slander could frankly be characterized as fraud or public defamation (which are illegal FYI). I've worked with him and he is a trustworthy very well respected and knowledgeable member of not only the DigiByte but the bitcoin community. I hope this topic is resolved soon by the moderators as this is so obviously a Photoshopped piece of garbage (its so amateur its not even funny). Stop spreading your shit.You know the owner of the account and trust him, we get that. But it has been proven that the PMs have been sent and are not faked as you say. Stay out of the discussion, if you can't take the time to read the thread, please. Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: bitkapp on February 28, 2016, 09:34:43 PM I personally can't see proof that doesn't looked photoshopped. Sorry if I'm not wearing my glasses but thats my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: Lutpin on February 28, 2016, 09:36:43 PM I personally can't see proof that doesn't looked photoshopped. Sorry if I'm not wearing my glasses but thats my 2 cents. How about that: Edit: Wanna dispute the integrity of shorena?Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- source of address -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg3866954#msg3866954 the screenshots of 3 PMs: https://i.imgur.com/kXA80JW.png https://i.imgur.com/IGx7YwG.png Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 28, 2016, 11:55:55 PM I personally can't see proof that doesn't looked photoshopped. Sorry if I'm not wearing my glasses but thats my 2 cents. Maybe you should wear your glasses, the burden of proof is over whelming, Maybe he didn't sell account and is just scamming noobs, He is an Aussie after all ::) Title: Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm Post by: james.lent on February 29, 2016, 12:14:31 AM I personally can't see proof that doesn't looked photoshopped. Sorry if I'm not wearing my glasses but thats my 2 cents. You need more than glasses then my friend. |
