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Title: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BitMillions on January 22, 2013, 06:30:01 PM
http://bitmillions.com/assets/images/banner-btctalk.jpg (http://bitmillions.com)

Introducing http://bitmillions.com - The first fully automated and cheat proof lottery system based on the Bitcoin Network Blockchain.

BITMILLIONS TOTAL PRIZES START AT ฿ 1,300 !!

Check Pools in these 3 addresses
http://blockchain.info/tx/c02dab9b143074f5bfa8eef2d1135e4dc16743e9f4658ee864727cb168a7e513

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Odds of winning

4 Matches Odds : 1 in 3,921,225
3 Matches Odds : 1 in 10,211
2 Matches Odds : 1 in 143
1 Matches Odds : 1 in 6.86

( http://www.lottogenie.com/html/odds.html )
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BitMillions is a unique lottery system, offering an average of 144 draws per day (each draw corresponding to one Bitcoin Block) and prizes for each draw are paid automatically after the 6th confirmation.

Some Advantages of BitMillions.com

- Win the Jackpot with only ฿ 0.10
- 3 Different Pools. Even if you match 1 number you are a winner.
- Prizes for each draw are fully automatically paid after the 6th confirmation.
- Payments to players are sent without deducting any transaction fee. All transaction fees will be covered by the site operators.
- All the addresses for the pools of 3 & 4 matches were generated and are kept offline to ensure maximum security at all times.
- Funds in pools are 100% transparent and can be verified at any time. The bitcoins for all the pools are stored in independent addresses and will never be moved for any other purpose than to make payments to winners.
- There are Free Plays and Free Bonus Plays for high rollers and winners.
- Up to 100% Bonus Plays for High Roller Players.
- No Game Limits.
- No downloads, registration or sign up required. 100% Anonymous!
- Numbers for each draw are generated through a complex but extremely secure and fair process that can be verified by anybody after each draw.
- The site has an average of 144 draws per day. You could be the next jackpot winner any minute!
- Numbers can be chosen by the player directly from the client or the system can randomly choose them.
- Accounting for each draw is a 100% transparent and verifiable.

BitMillions.com is the first online lottery game based 100% in the New Cryptocurrency Era.

Sign up for beta testing and receive ฿ 1 FREE BTC to play!!
More info here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140349.0


** The site is open to the public, anyone can play & win! **


Quote
UPDATE

Thank you to all the beta testers and users that helped us improve our site experience, we are still working in some of the improvements of the site, but feel free to leave us feedback.

Based on the latest increased of the BTC price, we have decided to lower the ticket price to 0.01 BTC. Everything will be the same, so players will have more fun, for way less money! And pools are incredible high for a price of 0.01 BTC!

With these changes with only 1 BTC players will have 110 plays, almost a day of playing!

Grand Opening Bonus Tickets & High Rollers Discounts were adjusted accordingly.

Pool retain was increased to 50%.

Players are still able to choose the numbers in the same way as before, just pick your lucky numbers on decimals in the transaction.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: ShaTwo on January 22, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
Hello everybody, my name is Charly and I am the lead developer for the project.

I wanted to share with you some simulations we ran to on the system:

Code:
# -- BitMillions Lottery System Simulation

Simulated Draw Wining Numbers: [16][31][33][58]

Randomizing 10000000 Tickets ... Done.

Out of 10000000 tickets generated the computer found these matches:

 - Matching 1 Numbers: 1471127
 - Matching 2 Numbers: 70911
 - Matching 3 Numbers: 1012
 - Matching 4 Numbers: 3

 [1] - Match # 1 Total Paid : 147112.70000408 BTCs : 0.10 BTCs per winner
 [2] - Match # 2 Total Paid : 341154.91997607 BTCs : 4.81102960 BTCs per winner
 [3] - Match # 3 Total Paid : 298510.55499615 BTCs : 294.97090415 BTCs per winner
 [4] - Match # 4 Total Paid : 127933.09499543 BTCs : 42644.36499848 BTCs per winner


The Winnings Odds are:

Match # 1 : 1 in 6.89
Match # 2 : 1 in 143.32
Match # 3 : 1 in 10,211.52
Match # 4 : 1 in 3,921,225

Source: http://www.lottogenie.com/html/odds.html

These numbers are consistent with the results we seen over the 3 months of testing we been doing before launching.

If you have any question regarding the system, you can found me on the #BitMillions channel on FreeNode IRC


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: TradeFortress on January 23, 2013, 01:23:25 AM
>  that can be verified by onebody

Anybody, right? Not onebody?


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on January 23, 2013, 02:08:28 AM
>  that can be verified by onebody

Anybody, right? Not onebody?

Yes, sorry!! Anybody.. (just fixed it in the post)

Thanks for letting me know


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BRules on January 23, 2013, 02:56:46 AM
since we're fixing the spelling, it's Anonymous, not Anonimous.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on January 23, 2013, 03:02:18 AM
since we're fixing the spelling, it's Anonymous, not Anonimous.

Oki! Thanks!

(Sorry but English is not my first language)  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: Monster Tent on January 31, 2013, 10:16:42 PM
Can you prove that the major prizes actually exist ? ie you have enough coin to cover the prizes.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BRules on January 31, 2013, 11:20:41 PM
what's your house edge?

and it's a jackpot or a fixed prize for the hits?


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 01, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
Can you prove that the major prizes actually exist ? ie you have enough coin to cover the prizes.

Yes, Bitcoins for all the 3 pools are stored in independent addresses and will never be moved for any other purpose than to make payments to winners. You will be able to verify these funds at any time ( the address will be in our site ), as they will update in real time, after each draw.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 01, 2013, 04:36:06 PM
what's your house edge?

and it's a jackpot or a fixed prize for the hits?


What's your house edge?

We donít have house edge. We have a house fee of 10% only in the losing tickets. We have developed this system as a long term and profitable business. We have seen many sites that after a few months had to close down or even worse, we have seen the administrators go away with all the funds. We earn money when people play and win, we charge a house fee not only for profit but also to ensure that the site will have all the security measurements needed and on top of that we will be responsible for replacing any lost BTC in case of any security breach.

It's a jackpot or a fixed prize for the hits?

It is a jackpot. Pools are formed by all the losing tickets. A play is generated and all the losing tickets become part of the pools for the next draw, after deducting the 10% house fees. These funds are divided proportionally among the prize for 2 matches, 3 matches and 4 matches: 40% for two, 30% for 3 and 20% for 4.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BRules on February 01, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
the numbers should match the order or you will accept any order?

what I'm asking is if I choose 1-2-3-4 I will still win if the draw is 4-3-2-1



Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 01, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
the numbers should match the order or you will accept any order?

what I'm asking is if I choose 1-2-3-4 I will still win if the draw is 4-3-2-1




The order doesn't matter, just the numbers..


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 01, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
Just Launched!


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 01, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
Just Launched!

How does one know if they won or not ?

You can check your ticket using your address. Enter your address at the top of the page and automatically directs you to a page where you can track the results of all your tickets, as well as see how many games you won, the payments made and links to previous plays.

First lucky winner
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/65e49ac94948046ab39032c6d9101678278acd4edb58df57d0cfbe7be269405f:0


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: bbit on February 01, 2013, 10:03:37 PM
Just Launched!

How does one know if they won or not ?

You can check your ticket using your address. Enter your address at the top of the page and automatically directs you to a page where you can track the results of all your tickets, as well as see how many games you won, the payments made and links to previous plays.

First lucky winner
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/65e49ac94948046ab39032c6d9101678278acd4edb58df57d0cfbe7be269405f:0

Holy shit! That was me haha! :) sweet! I thought I had read the ticket wrong thank you! Planning on doing this more!  DO NOT USE THIS WEBSITE!


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 01, 2013, 10:09:38 PM
Just Launched!

How does one know if they won or not ?

You can check your ticket using your address. Enter your address at the top of the page and automatically directs you to a page where you can track the results of all your tickets, as well as see how many games you won, the payments made and links to previous plays.

First lucky winner
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/65e49ac94948046ab39032c6d9101678278acd4edb58df57d0cfbe7be269405f:0

Holy shit! That was me haha! :) sweet! I thought I had read the ticket wrong thank you! Planning on doing this more!


WOW!! Congrats!!!

I'll send your FREE btc soon!!

So happy to start seeing some lucky winners!!


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: bbit on February 02, 2013, 12:17:56 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BRules on February 02, 2013, 04:46:07 AM
some considerations about your site.

- I think that a link to the home page on the top of the site is more standard than on the bottom, some times I need to scroll all the page down to click on the "home" link.

- when I'm typing the numbers on the ticket, it's not accepting the numbers on the numpad.

- I think that will be better if after we type two characters on a number field it automatically pass to the next number field.

- I couldn't see in the faq and neither when I am filling a ticket that the numbers should be unique. first I thought that the site had a problem as I selected the same number twice and the total didn't change. but after clicking on "Click To Verify draw numbers" i found the information i was looking for.

- if I need to pay more 1 btc (20 USD) to use each free play, then I think the free word isn't adequate.



and the rest of yor site is very professional and very well thought, congratulations.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 02, 2013, 07:42:16 AM
I just won 4.7btc on a $6 bid - not bad  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: BitMillions on February 02, 2013, 05:59:48 PM
Amazing Draw!!!
http://bitmillions.com/draws/219207

2 Lucky Winners with 2 Matches each + 1 Lucky Winner with 1 Match!

Winner one won ฿ 4.71104146
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/dfe2ba7eba28faf38a64a73fdbb3bc138a8ef26c2e48333e4a32b67b1ae43885:1

Played 1 BTC & Won ฿ 4.89285964 + 2 FREE PLAYS!

Winner two won ฿ 4.72013237
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/946406d0fbd83427b053002579621cfeb794f0988938ce3d908fed7a497fd9fd:0

Played ฿ 0.30 & Won ฿ 4.72013237 + 2 FREE PLAYS!


Lucky winner with 1 Match!
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/f0d854e8871ac52a88bafdf8770af82c7c196d0c3a9065aab708648bb95e821e:1

Played ฿ 0.10 & Won ฿ 0.10 + 1 FREE PLAY!


BitMillions.com is the one and only Bitcoin Site where you can win more than ฿1,000 with only ฿ 0.10!!!


--------------------------------------------------

The difference in winnings is because:

CPP ( Cost per Play ) = ex. ฿1.00 / 11 Plays

Total Prize # 2 = Pool # 2 - 30% ( Pool Retain )

Prize per Winner = Total Prize # 2 / Winners ( 2 )

Paid to Player = Prize per Winner + CPP


http://i.imgur.com/NIFAeZF.jpg


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BitMillions on February 03, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
What a crazy day!

Match #2 Pool went up to 40 BTC and we had a lucky winner of ฿ 28.4597

Almost ฿ 1,400 in Prizes in just 2 days!!

Check the draw at:
http://bitmillions.com/draws/219383

Play Now at BitMillions.com

http://i.imgur.com/53Mo8iz.jpg



Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 03, 2013, 10:32:48 PM
^^^^

HA, that was me again - I spent my last $3 last night to wake up with $591.26 in my account. While I was logging in I was thinking what if by some miracle I won on that play - hilarious outcome 8) Thanks.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BitMillions on February 03, 2013, 10:58:12 PM
^^^^

HA, that was me again - I spent my last $3 last night to wake up with $591.26 in my account. While I was logging in I was thinking what if by some miracle I won on that play - hilarious outcome 8) Thanks.

WOWWW Congrats!!!

I think tonight we will have a big #2 pool again!!

Odds are pretty good! Soon someone will get #3 pool!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 04, 2013, 03:43:52 PM

When I click on the address 1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32 on the tickets page, it is automatically opening the bitcoin client before I have selected the numbers. It is annoying.

When I send only 0.1 btc, the system chooses the number for me. How this numbers are generated?



Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BitMillions on February 04, 2013, 03:55:49 PM
When I click on the address 1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32 on the tickets page, it is automatically opening the bitcoin client before I have selected the numbers. It is annoying.

When I send only 0.1 btc, the system chooses the number for me. How this numbers are generated?

What client, browser and OS do you use? That shouldn't be happening.

How numbers are generated is explained in the transaction. Check this one https://bitmillions.com/tickets/65e49ac94948046ab39032c6d9101678278acd4edb58df57d0cfbe7be269405f:0

Click on the bar code "CLICK TO VERIFY TRANSACTION"




Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 04, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
OS: windows xp SP3
Client: bitcoin-qt
browser: both firefox 18.0.1 and chrome 24.0.1312.57 m are trying to open bitcoin-qt


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ingrownpocket on February 04, 2013, 04:29:08 PM
OS: windows xp SP3
Client: bitcoin-qt
browser: both firefox 18.0.1 and chrome 24.0.1312.57 m are trying to open bitcoin-qt

Don't you have that browser extension that detects Bitcoin addresses?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 04, 2013, 04:33:11 PM
When I click on the address 1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32 on the tickets page, it is automatically opening the bitcoin client before I have selected the numbers. It is annoying.
You can click on the Copy Icon on the Right of the Address if you only like to just Copy it to your Clipboard

[EDIT] I see what you mean now... since I don't have the Bitcoin-Qt URL-Extention Instaled didn't see it before... removing it now. Thanks :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 04, 2013, 04:41:31 PM

Don't you have that browser extension that detects Bitcoin addresses?

No, the problem is that the href of the link is a url to a bitcoin address (as it starts with "bitcoin:").


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 04, 2013, 05:17:14 PM
when I click on the main page to see the last winners, I'm being redirected to: https://bitmillions.com/winners

but the information on this page look like test information as I'm seeing "30.533 Winners up to date" and only one transaction in the list and a ticket that hit the 4 numbers. IMO, if this page isn't implemented yet, you should not put this in the production server.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 04, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
when I click on the main page to see the last winners, I'm being redirected to: https://bitmillions.com/winners

but the information on this page look like test information as I'm seeing "30.533 Winners up to date" and only one transaction in the list and a ticket that hit the 4 numbers. IMO, if this page isn't implemented yet, you should not put this in the production server.

Sorry we are working on that page.. will be up soon..


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 04, 2013, 06:24:12 PM
No, the problem is that the href of the link is a url to a bitcoin address (as it starts with "bitcoin:").

Fixed, should be good now... clear your cache if you still see it.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: dooglus on February 04, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
HA, that was me again - I spent my last $3 last night to wake up with $591.26 in my account. While I was logging in I was thinking what if by some miracle I won on that play - hilarious outcome 8) Thanks.

Nice that you won with 13 37 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet) too. :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BitMillions on February 05, 2013, 12:59:49 AM
What a Lucky Beta Tester!!

Played a FREE BTC to test our system and Won Pool #2 - 17.2503 BTC!!

Check the draw at:
https://bitmillions.com/draws/219645

More info about the beta tester program at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140349.0

http://i.imgur.com/Nr1tc9Z.jpg


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 05, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
this phrase is annoying to me: "With this luck you will win the jackpot pretty soon" as it appears even if I hadn't hit any number

and the "whale" started playing bit millions:
http://blockchain.info/tx/bbf69cd3c596352b91e576eeb3b981808f862a9041ddc71b9fdbd657b619be13


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: dooglus on February 05, 2013, 06:52:50 PM
this phrase is annoying to me: "With this luck you will win the jackpot pretty soon" as it appears even if I hadn't hit any number

and the "whale" started playing bit millions:
http://blockchain.info/tx/bbf69cd3c596352b91e576eeb3b981808f862a9041ddc71b9fdbd657b619be13

Well spotted!  More evidence that he's not just 'fluffing' the SDICE profits to draw in investors.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 05, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
Well spotted!  More evidence that he's not just 'fluffing' the SDICE profits to draw in investors.

Because of the nature of the game, in BitMillions is impossible for the operator to artificially inflate the number of bets, since the funds from the losing tickets will go to the Prizes Pools and not to the operator itself.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 05, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
when I click to see a draw it's being showed to me:

Funds Paid on this Draw
Prizes: ฿ 0.3478
To Pool 2: ฿ 0.2087
To Pool 3: ฿ 0.1565
To Pool 4: ฿ 0.1043
Partners: ฿ 0.0313
House Fees: ฿ 0.0209
Total Paid: ฿ 0.8696

what exactly is this "Partners"?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: dooglus on February 05, 2013, 10:33:01 PM
when I click to see a draw it's being showed to me:

Funds Paid on this Draw
Prizes: ฿ 0.3478
To Pool 2: ฿ 0.2087
To Pool 3: ฿ 0.1565
To Pool 4: ฿ 0.1043
Partners: ฿ 0.0313
House Fees: ฿ 0.0209
Total Paid: ฿ 0.8696

what exactly is this "Partners"?

If you add the "partners" and the "house fees" together, you get the expected 10% of the losing tickets.  So I'm guessing "partners" represents outside investors who have a share in the site.  Whatever it is, their share comes out of the house's 10% cut.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 05, 2013, 11:48:33 PM
make sense, tks man.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 06, 2013, 02:48:30 AM
If you add the "partners" and the "house fees" together, you get the expected 10% of the losing tickets.  So I'm guessing "partners" represents outside investors who have a share in the site.  Whatever it is, their share comes out of the house's 10% cut.

That is correct, thanks dooglus for point it about... we will have more new soon about what this "Partners" means.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on February 06, 2013, 04:02:23 AM
as dooglus pointed out in the other thread, you have this sentence on the FAQ.

"All the hashes of the keys of the next draw are available at this link in order to validate that the hash for the key that was used was the correct one after the play has finished"

but there isn't any link in the faq page. You MUST provide this link ASAP before someone hit the 3 or 4 jackpot so you can prove that wasn't you manipulating the draw result to get your money back. I must say that if this happen before you post the hashes, my trust on the site will be affected.


and also the link to the address 1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32 on the faq page isn't working.


EDIT: just saw that your message on twitter has parts of the hash for the secret token. So it's ok as you can't know the TwitID bedore posting the hash. It's provably fair.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on February 06, 2013, 06:52:45 AM
Quote
UPDATE

Thank you to all the beta testers and users that helped us improve our site experience, we are still working in some of the improvements of the site, but feel free to leave us feedback.

Based on the latest increased of the BTC price, we have decided to lower the ticket price to 0.01 BTC. Everything will be the same, so players will have more fun, for way less money! And pools are incredible high for a price of 0.01 BTC!

With these changes with only 1 BTC players will have 110 plays, almost a day of playing!

Grand Opening Bonus Tickets & High Rollers Discounts were adjusted accordingly.

Pool retain was increased to 50%.

Players are still able to choose the numbers in the same way as before, just pick your lucky numbers on decimals in the transaction.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: Bowjob on February 06, 2013, 03:05:47 PM
Seems like the 3/4 price is + EV


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: StarenseN on February 06, 2013, 03:45:14 PM
With that discount, you've just "evoorheesed" the game  ;D


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on February 06, 2013, 07:01:26 PM
well, I just give up trying to load the site on firefox and internet explorer, it's just opening the top and the bottom and the middle is blank on both browser and this is happening on every attempt. It's working very well on chrome, but just on chrome. you should take a look on this as firefox and internet explorer have a substantial share on the browsers market.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 06, 2013, 07:42:18 PM
"All the hashes of the keys of the next draw are available at this link in order to validate that the hash for the key that was used was the correct one after the play has finished"

but there isn't any link in the faq page. You MUST provide this link ASAP before someone hit the 3 or 4 jackpot so you can prove that wasn't you manipulating the draw result to get your money back. I must say that if this happen before you post the hashes, my trust on the site will be affected.

Sorry, it was in my todo list but gave priority to other things, since most of the funds from Pool #3 & #4 was contributed by us anyways.

Secret Token Hashes from Block # 219000 to Block # 318999
https://bitmillions.com/tokens/219000-318999-secret-hashes.txt

MD5SUM : 069b8489f4d26b1813ce18a83c907337

Also uploaded to GitHub to validate publish date https://github.com/ShaTwo/SecretCodes

As you also point it out Hash is also on the Twit, so changes of cheating are close to imposible.

FAQ has been updated.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: techwtf on February 08, 2013, 05:21:33 AM
you should replace HMAC-SHA516 to HMAC-SHA512 on your site. and you should clarify you are using str(txid), str(txindex) as the input and key of HMAC, in order to simplify the verification.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 08, 2013, 05:23:08 AM
207BTC.
Thanks. Again.  ???   :D  ::)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 08, 2013, 06:53:24 AM
207BTC.
Thanks. Again.  ???   :D  ::)

Very nice win!

https://bitmillions.com/draws/220149


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 08, 2013, 06:56:42 AM
207BTC. Thanks. Again.  ???   :D  ::)

Congratulations!!! Pool # 3 is paid from Cold Storage, so we'll pay it first time tomorrow!
I am very happy of seen the first big winner on BitMillions! Congratulations again! :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 08, 2013, 09:59:38 AM
So... We meet again.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: Bowjob on February 08, 2013, 10:05:22 AM
waffle you keep winning jesus christ. Please don't play Satoshi Dice, I have shares there!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ingrownpocket on February 08, 2013, 10:25:08 AM
So... We meet again.
How much did you won? And how much did you 'bet'?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 08, 2013, 10:41:26 AM
6.5k+
I put in a couple hundred dollars >:( Mixed feelings. I do legitimately feel like a plunderer...


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: Bowjob on February 08, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
6.5k meaning.. 6.5k 0.01 BTCS?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 08, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
Profit is approx $6,500
I put in couple hundred; the majority of it when a bet was @ .1 btc a few days ago


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ingrownpocket on February 08, 2013, 11:00:35 AM
6.5k+
I put in a couple hundred dollars >:( Mixed feelings. I do legitimately feel like a plunderer...
Profit is approx $6,500
I put in couple hundred; the majority of it when a bet was @ .1 btc a few days ago
Can you prove that?  ;)

You know... Bitcoin and stuff.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on February 08, 2013, 05:57:07 PM
3 Lucky Winners won almost 400 BTC with less than ฿ 2 in 24hs!!!

AMAZING!!!

Check draws at

https://bitmillions.com/draws/220149
https://bitmillions.com/draws/220181
https://bitmillions.com/draws/220231

http://i.imgur.com/cHyVvpV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0PfpdI4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fFZRdOA.jpg


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 08, 2013, 06:49:46 PM
Can you prove that?  ;) You know... Bitcoin and stuff.

You can check all the ticket he purchased on:
https://bitmillions.com/address/1BT4xWe5ATp37CwpxwnYViUDJq62nKbFvq

And Payment Transaction has just been sent:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d873bad7cd1a4b31f3dd634f23ce21913fade0d22abab70f09eddefd67b8381f

Congratulations to our first Lucky Winner! :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 08, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
Can you prove that?  ;)

You know... Bitcoin and stuff.

The pot for match-3 was far too high.  It really was worth playing until you hit it, because it was incredibly unlikely you would make a loss - unless someone else hit it before you.

The three pots will end up being 6643 BTC, 26 BTC and 0.48 BTC on average.  Having 400 BTC in the match-3 pot put it around 16 times bigger than it will be on average, and made it well worth shooting for.

You hit the match-3 pot about once every 10,000 draws.  10,000 draws cost 100 BTC to play.  So you're paying 100 BTC to win half of 400 BTC - well worth doing, even if you never win any of the other pots (which, of course, you will).


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 08, 2013, 08:53:13 PM
The pot for match-3 was far too high.  It really was worth playing until you hit it, because it was incredibly unlikely you would make a loss - unless someone else hit it before you.

The three pots will end up being 6643 BTC, 26 BTC and 0.48 BTC on average.  Having 400 BTC in the match-3 pot put it around 16 times bigger than it will be on average, and made it well worth shooting for.

You hit the match-3 pot about once every 10,000 draws.  10,000 draws cost 100 BTC to play.  So you're paying 100 BTC to win half of 400 BTC - well worth doing, even if you never win any of the other pots (which, of course, you will).

You are correct, pots were initially funded for a 0.10 Ticket Price ( Average 66430 BTC, 260 BTC and 4.8 BTC ) when we reduced the price, we knew that the pool what much higher, but we decided to eat the mistake and reward our first batch of winners.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ingrownpocket on February 08, 2013, 09:08:04 PM
Can you prove that?  ;) You know... Bitcoin and stuff.
You can check all the ticket he purchased on:
https://bitmillions.com/address/1BT4xWe5ATp37CwpxwnYViUDJq62nKbFvq

And Payment Transaction has just been sent:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d873bad7cd1a4b31f3dd634f23ce21913fade0d22abab70f09eddefd67b8381f

Congratulations to our first Lucky Winner! :)
I just want to know if he really is the 'owner' of that address.


Can you prove that?  ;)

You know... Bitcoin and stuff.

The pot for match-3 was far too high.  It really was worth playing until you hit it, because it was incredibly unlikely you would make a loss - unless someone else hit it before you.

The three pots will end up being 6643 BTC, 26 BTC and 0.48 BTC on average.  Having 400 BTC in the match-3 pot put it around 16 times bigger than it will be on average, and made it well worth shooting for.

You hit the match-3 pot about once every 10,000 draws.  10,000 draws cost 100 BTC to play.  So you're paying 100 BTC to win half of 400 BTC - well worth doing, even if you never win any of the other pots (which, of course, you will).
I've thought about that yesterday, but since I could not afford to lose 100 BTC I stopped thinking about it and started doing other stuff (to stop feeding that gambling desire I sometimes have).

EDIT: Goddammit, my English sometimes is broken as hell.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 08, 2013, 10:18:09 PM
I've thought about that yesterday, but since I could not afford to lose 100 BTC I stopped thinking about it and started doing other stuff (to stop feeding that gambling desire I sometimes have).

Ha!  Me too...

I was thinking if I did go for it, I would have to buy lots of tickets all at once to increase my chance of winning before somebody else did.  There's no good way of buying lots of tickets for the same draw without spamming the blockchain with transactions with hundreds of outputs.  I calculated that I could buy 288 tickets with a single 10k byte transaction (each ticket you buy adds 34 bytes to the transaction size) but that I'd want to buy many more than that to have a reasonable chance of winning the pot (odds of 1-in-10k).  So I stopped thinking about it.  :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: eleuthria on February 09, 2013, 09:29:19 PM
Love the site, very well done.  Only one thing I'm a bit confused over:  Is there a reason you decided to have the tickets pay out for each play?  The current method is going to end up filling wallets with a lot of small inputs, making it harder to spend without long delays and/or high fees.  Perhaps a separate address to purchase a ticket which sends your total winnings after the ticket fully matures?  This saves you money, and the player as well in the long run.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dykast on February 09, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
I sent 1BTC from 1KjmoMmUMRfwFk7xu3gNXRKyBT1R13sRh9 .  It doesn't show up, but when i follow the block, it seems that my 1BTC is getting my plays at 1HDbwG9R6ubEHA7FM63TUE5W8zCget7sYP.  I am not a blockchain expert so I am not sure what is going on.  Any help would be appreciated.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 09, 2013, 11:02:03 PM
I sent 1BTC from 1KjmoMmUMRfwFk7xu3gNXRKyBT1R13sRh9 .  It doesn't show up, but when i follow the block, it seems that my 1BTC is getting my plays at 1HDbwG9R6ubEHA7FM63TUE5W8zCget7sYP.  I am not a blockchain expert so I am not sure what is going on.  Any help would be appreciated.

We use the first Input Transaction as Sender Address, if you check on yours:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/51216827/cb17e2e132d57fb3477b748e296d83dfc03393bd04ed6da9366b80dc2ebdfc8f

You will see that 1HDbwG9R6ubEHA7FM63TUE5W8zCget7sYP is the first one.

I recommend you to use a Wallet that allow you to do coin control like Blockchain.info


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dykast on February 09, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
I sent 1BTC from 1KjmoMmUMRfwFk7xu3gNXRKyBT1R13sRh9 .  It doesn't show up, but when i follow the block, it seems that my 1BTC is getting my plays at 1HDbwG9R6ubEHA7FM63TUE5W8zCget7sYP.  I am not a blockchain expert so I am not sure what is going on.  Any help would be appreciated.

We use the first Input Transaction as Sender Address, if you check on yours:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/51216827/cb17e2e132d57fb3477b748e296d83dfc03393bd04ed6da9366b80dc2ebdfc8f

You will see that 1HDbwG9R6ubEHA7FM63TUE5W8zCget7sYP is the first one.

I recommend you to use a Wallet that allow you to do coin control like Blockchain.info

Ah, I see.  I sent it from my actual wallet instead of blockchain.info.  Looked at my wallet and my winnings are going there. Sorry for the newbie confusion.

TY for the quick answer  :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 10, 2013, 05:57:55 AM
Love the site, very well done.  Only one thing I'm a bit confused over:  Is there a reason you decided to have the tickets pay out for each play?  The current method is going to end up filling wallets with a lot of small inputs, making it harder to spend without long delays and/or high fees.  Perhaps a separate address to purchase a ticket which sends your total winnings after the ticket fully matures?  This saves you money, and the player as well in the long run.

It's possible to buy a ticket that runs for several years.  You probably wouldn't want to wait for the end for it to pay out.  A compromise like paying out every 100 draws would seem reasonable though.  That would mean payouts every 16.7 hours on average.  And if they always paid out on draws ending with 00 then players could easily know how many more draws until their next payout.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: eleuthria on February 10, 2013, 03:22:58 PM
Love the site, very well done.  Only one thing I'm a bit confused over:  Is there a reason you decided to have the tickets pay out for each play?  The current method is going to end up filling wallets with a lot of small inputs, making it harder to spend without long delays and/or high fees.  Perhaps a separate address to purchase a ticket which sends your total winnings after the ticket fully matures?  This saves you money, and the player as well in the long run.

It's possible to buy a ticket that runs for several years.  You probably wouldn't want to wait for the end for it to pay out.  A compromise like paying out every 100 draws would seem reasonable though.  That would mean payouts every 16.7 hours on average.  And if they always paid out on draws ending with 00 then players could easily know how many more draws until their next payout.

Good point, I hadn't thought of the idea of buying a single ticket that lasted for a significant time.  An every-100 blocks payout ticket would definitely be a good compromise there.  I just hate seeing the blockchain bloat and difficult to spend outputs filling a wallet [glares at SatoshiDice].


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 10, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
Good point, I hadn't thought of the idea of buying a single ticket that lasted for a significant time.

They actively encourage you to do so with their 'high roller' bonuses:

http://i.imgur.com/OH0q7zT.png

Incidentally, the 'play for' column is wrong in a few cases.  20,000 tickets will play for 20000/144 = 138.9 days, not 143 days.

Also, the most recent draw numbers are all messed up.  Is it meant to say 'CALCULATE'?  It's kinda ugly:

http://i.imgur.com/B5cDpSD.png

Maybe an 8 letter word would work better?  TH-IN-KI-NG?  Or just write the word without breaking it into 4 parts.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 11, 2013, 01:43:24 AM
Thanks for point it out this Dooglus, but note that since the price reduction, the high roller bonuses we ajusted to:

http://i.imgur.com/xeK4fXf.jpg

I guess the problem with the cache still make you see something different.

Also, the most recent draw numbers are all messed up.  Is it meant to say 'CALCULATE'?  It's kinda ugly:
Maybe an 8 letter word would work better?  TH-IN-KI-NG?  Or just write the word without breaking it into 4 parts.

Yes, I removed the A in CAL to make it fit, it suppose to be something temporal, but I never got to change it... I will change it after fixing the pre-compile cache issue.

Also is import to note that you get 10 FREE PLAYS when playing anything higher than 1 BTC, I think makes much more sense to play 1 BTC and you will get 111 plays ( 18 1/2 Hours of Playing! )


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: TradeFortress on February 11, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
I played a bitcoin, wish me luck?  :D

https://bitmillions.com/tickets/2149699da87f0b36196e2571264aba845c9af13e821109bbf7e8950465bf0e0c:0


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: arij on February 12, 2013, 12:06:56 AM
Winning!

https://bitmillions.com/tickets/2e7e4725fc9ac4819afecd89e1a78657fcf5d293b3e5c37b2ab9bf4f92cdd3e0:0

:)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 12, 2013, 01:22:29 AM
Still waiting for the BTC from this win...

https://bitmillions.com/tickets/2e7e4725fc9ac4819afecd89e1a78657fcf5d293b3e5c37b2ab9bf4f92cdd3e0:0

Any ETA?

Since we couldn't send a transaction with 750 inputs, we needed to consolidate all the inputs to been able to send your payment.
Please check on: http://blockchain.info/address/1ETya2BCpwgTuz88ubiLPf2kUvMpUymhBq

But looks like didn't have enough txFees and we still waiting for this transaction to get confirmed:
http://blockchain.info/tx/71d791a4666bdad7b484f07f9299840b99a524e98823c3b6761137592df8cd00
We made it almost 6 hours ago and still doesn't confirm. :(

All the other transactions are already confirmed, so as soon as that transaction confirms, I will be able to process your payment.

Also we will have the Pool # 3 in Hot Storage, that will prevent this problem from happen again.

Please apologies for the delay, as soon as we have the consolidated funds confirmed, we will issue the payment and post it here.

[EDIT] Payment Sent! Sorry for the delay... it should not happen again.
http://blockchain.info/tx/f7263295b490656ca7b6345cabb0ae9a423058557d952dcc929d90cc9415bfc3


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: arij on February 12, 2013, 01:25:41 AM
No problem, Thanks for the update! BitMillions for life!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 12, 2013, 02:21:30 AM
But looks like didn't have enough txFees and we still waiting for this transaction to get confirmed:
http://blockchain.info/tx/71d791a4666bdad7b484f07f9299840b99a524e98823c3b6761137592df8cd00
We made it almost 6 hours ago and still doesn't confirm. :(

The rules for transaction fees are well known:

Note that transactions up to 10,000 bytes can be free (depending on the size and age of the inputs), but over that there's a minimum fee of 0.0055 BTC (0.0005 BTC per 1000 bytes or part thereof), so it might be worth breaking your transactions up into a series of smaller ones.

The transaction you sent is 14846 bytes long, and so needs a fee of at least 15*0.0005 = 0.0075 BTC.  You only included a fee of 0.001 BTC so it's not surprising it's taking a long time to confirm.  What client did you use to make that transaction?  It seems not to be following the network rules for fee size.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 12, 2013, 02:50:57 AM
The rules for transaction fees are well known:

I tried to find documentation on this, but what able to do so... thanks for the info!
Could you please tell me where can I find it on the bitcoin.it wiki?

Note that transactions up to 10,000 bytes can be free (depending on the size and age of the inputs), but over that there's a minimum fee of 0.0055 BTC (0.0005 BTC per 1000 bytes or part thereof), so it might be worth breaking your transactions up into a series of smaller ones.

The problem I have is that I don't know the Transaction Size at an application level, I just know the number of inputs & outputs, and I need to determine the TxFee based on that... any recommendations?

[Edit] I custom build the transactions with createrawtransaction method on bitcoind at another layer of the application stack.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 12, 2013, 04:41:58 AM
I tried to find documentation on this, but what able to do so... thanks for the info!
Could you please tell me where can I find it on the bitcoin.it wiki?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

The problem I have is that I don't know the Transaction Size at an application level, I just know the number of inputs & outputs, and I need to determine the TxFee based on that... any recommendations?

[Edit] I custom build the transactions with createrawtransaction method on bitcoind at another layer of the application stack.

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1195/how-to-calculate-transaction-size-before-sending

transaction with 'in' inputs and 'out' outputs has size
(in*148 + out*34 + 10) plus or minus 'in'

so long as you're using compressed public keys.

Your transaction has 100 inputs and 1 output, so will have size 14800+34+10 +- 100 = 14844 +- 100
Its actual size was 14846.

Each input adds 147, 148, or 149 to the size, pretty much at random.  The average contribution per input is 148 bytes.  It's incredibly unlikely that all 100 inputs will contribure 149 bytes.  The transaction size is in the range 14744 to 14944, but spread out with a binomial distribution centred on 14844.

But... createrawtransaction returns a string.  Count the length of the string to find (twice) the size of the transaction.  Then adjust the fee, and repeat, until the fee is suitable for the length.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 12, 2013, 04:51:26 AM
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

I can't believe it, for some reason I missed the part that I needed... thanks!

Your transaction has 100 inputs and 1 output, so will have size 14800+34+10 +- 100 = 14844 +- 100

Thanks!

But... createrawtransaction returns a string.  Count the length of the string to find (twice) the size of the transaction.  Then adjust the fee, and repeat, until the fee is suitable for the length.

For security createrawtransaction is not accesible from the application layer, so I can not re-create the transaction to adjust fees.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 12, 2013, 05:43:52 AM
For security createrawtransaction is not accesible from the application layer, so I can not re-create the transaction to adjust fees.

You're able to run createrawtransaction from somewhere.  Can't you call it repeatedly there with different fees until it's right?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 12, 2013, 07:22:35 AM
For security createrawtransaction is not accesible from the application layer, so I can not re-create the transaction to adjust fees.

You're able to run createrawtransaction from somewhere.  Can't you call it repeatedly there with different fees until it's right?

I guess I could change a few things to do that... I will try to calculate it by the number of inputs & outputs first... if that doesn't work I guess I will have to go that way.

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: Jaques on February 13, 2013, 07:14:18 PM


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: ShaTwo on February 13, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
Jaques, unfortunately bbit is a scammer, he applied for our beta tester launch promo and when we sent him the 1 FREE BTC to play, he kept it for himself, refused to play or to return the BTC.

1. First he sign up to participate in the beta testing

I'll help!
1HYPdQXk3bURyXoznRseCp7XRd1FcHnPmy

 ;D

2. Before we sent the BTC to try the system, he claimed to be a winner and confirmed to have received the prize

I won 8 BTC it works!  ;D

3. After we sent him the BTC, he claim that thought it was a FREE BTC GIVE AWAY, refused to use the BTC to play and to give it back.

Read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140349.0 for more information.

Is sad to see people like that in the community. :(


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: SgtSpike on February 13, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
Love the site, very well done.  Only one thing I'm a bit confused over:  Is there a reason you decided to have the tickets pay out for each play?  The current method is going to end up filling wallets with a lot of small inputs, making it harder to spend without long delays and/or high fees.  Perhaps a separate address to purchase a ticket which sends your total winnings after the ticket fully matures?  This saves you money, and the player as well in the long run.
I had the same concern, but look at how nicely the small transactions (all the way down to 0.000003!) were sent without a fee in this transaction:  https://blockchain.info/tx/0895a6fa923d399f5079c5a444a70a7543b5c34ebe4a5d21ae522350042b311e?show_adv=true

It seems as though packaging these smaller inputs with larger inputs allows them to be sent fee-free.  If you ever want to consolidate a small amount at a single address, send a larger amount to that address, then send them both back to the address you wanted to consolidate the small amount at.  Use the larger amount as a vehicle to transport the smaller amount, for free.  ;)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 13, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
It seems as though packaging these smaller inputs with larger inputs allows them to be sent fee-free.  If you ever want to consolidate a small amount at a single address, send a larger amount to that address, then send them both back to the address you wanted to consolidate the small amount at.  Use the larger amount as a vehicle to transport the smaller amount, for free.  ;)

That's right.  A transaction is free so long as it's less than 10,000 bytes and the average (input age) times (input size) is more than about 0.6 bitcoin days.  (The code tries to make the threshold 1 bitcoin-day, but allows 250 bytes per input, whereas since most public keys these days are compressed they only take up 148 bytes each in a transaction, causing transactions to be roughly 60% of the size the code expects).

So if you're trying to consolidate 66 single satoshis (the most you can fit into a 10k transaction), you'll need to bring an input with 67*0.6 =40.2 bitcoin days along with it (since the individual satoshis contribute effectively nothing to the transaction's priority no matter how old they are, being so small).  That can be a 1 day old 40.2 BTC input, or a 1 hour old 1000 BTC input, or any other combination which gives at least 40.2 bitcoin days.

The transaction you linked to included a 13 BTC input that was over a month old, so it alone contributed more than enough bitcoin days for the whole transaction.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: SgtSpike on February 13, 2013, 10:39:27 PM
It seems as though packaging these smaller inputs with larger inputs allows them to be sent fee-free.  If you ever want to consolidate a small amount at a single address, send a larger amount to that address, then send them both back to the address you wanted to consolidate the small amount at.  Use the larger amount as a vehicle to transport the smaller amount, for free.  ;)

That's right.  A transaction is free so long as it's less than 10,000 bytes and the average (input age) times (input size) is more than about 0.6 bitcoin days.  (The code tries to make the threshold 1 bitcoin-day, but allows 250 bytes per input, whereas since most public keys these days are compressed they only take up 148 bytes each in a transaction, causing transactions to be roughly 60% of the size the code expects).

So if you're trying to consolidate 66 single satoshis (the most you can fit into a 10k transaction), you'll need to bring an input with 67*0.6 =40.2 bitcoin days along with it (since the individual satoshis contribute effectively nothing to the transaction's priority no matter how old they are, being so small).  That can be a 1 day old 40.2 BTC input, or a 1 hour old 1000 BTC input, or any other combination which gives at least 40.2 bitcoin days.

The transaction you linked to included a 13 BTC input that was over a month old, so it alone contributed more than enough bitcoin days for the whole transaction.
Thanks.  That was the best explanation of the logic behind fees that I've heard yet.

So if I try to send a 0-day-old Satoshi by itself, the current rules dictate it would take 456,621 years to finally be confirmed!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 14, 2013, 03:09:37 AM
So if I try to send a 0-day-old Satoshi by itself, the current rules dictate it would take 456,621 years to finally be confirmed!

Kind of, but not really, for two reasons:

1) If any output of a transaction is less than 0.01 BTC then it isn't allowed to be free, no matter what the priority.  This is to prevent 'dust spam'.

2) Even transactions which don't have enough fees will be confirmed within a few days because there are some miners who don't enforce the fee rules.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: pixelcoin on February 15, 2013, 05:25:30 AM
Have you considered making it easier to use free plays? Right now it seems frustratingly difficult because you have to spend ฿0.10 just to use one free play, giving you 11 bets, which on average will win you close to two free plays, so you'll get more free plays faster than you can use up the ones you already have!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 15, 2013, 05:51:26 AM
I really like the idea of a bitcoin lottery and I played yesterday.  As of right now I will not play again.  Why?

YOUR SITE SUCKS.

For a for-profit business to have no way to ask a question and no contact link is just not acceptable.  I know you want to sit on your ass and collect money, but in the real world people have questions and if you have customers you have to answer those questions.  It is called "customer service", and it is important.


The funny thing is I got a payment out of the bet, but there is no way for me to see the "ticket" that your site "produced".



Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 15, 2013, 06:00:39 AM
I really like the idea of a bitcoin lottery and I played yesterday.  As of right now I will not play again.  Why?
YOUR SITE SUCKS.

Thank you for your feedback.

First, for a for-profit business to have no way to ask a question and no contact link is just not acceptable.  I know you want to sit on your ass and collect money, but in the real world people have questions and if you have customers you have to answer those questions.  It is called "customer service", and it is important.

Our contact information is on the site: https://bitmillions.com/about

I see you find our link to this topic on the forum, where we give support... also can find us in Facebook, Google+, Twitter or IRC. Besides you are receiving an answer just 2 minutes after you post this message.

Second, even though your site says that I can check my "ticket" by entering the payment address, I did that and it always says "0 tickets found" and "Displaying latest 0 tickets".  Here is my deposit address so you can try it for yourself:

1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32

The funny thing is I got a payment out of the bet, but there is no way for me to see the "ticket" that your site "produced".

That is the betting address, you should enter your address, not ours. Anyways if you just sent the bet, your ticket should be in this page... https://bitmillions.com/tickets how many BTCs did you sent?

If you like you can also send me a PM or an email to charly at shatwo dot com


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 15, 2013, 06:08:11 AM
Have you considered making it easier to use free plays? Right now it seems frustratingly difficult because you have to spend ฿0.10 just to use one free play, giving you 11 bets, which on average will win you close to two free plays, so you'll get more free plays faster than you can use up the ones you already have!

We have some plans where you will be able to redeem more free plays or even transfered to other players.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 15, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
OK, very cool that you replied right away.  What I mean is there should be a way to contact you from the site other than mailing a letter.  Obviously I am like millions of other people who want to play your game- otherwise I wouldn't be on this thread telling you what I don't like. 

I still have no idea what you mean about my ticket.  OK, so I shouldn't enter my deposit address in order to find my ticket.  What address should I enter?

The whole point of having a place on the site to answer questions is so that dimwits like me can ask them.  I realize that the answer is obvious to you, but it isn't obvious to me.  And I'm not really bashing you even though it looks that way from my first post.  I just want to know how this all works, and I have not been able to find my answer in the FAQ.  My next step was to simply email you and ask, but that isn't possible from your site.


Title: Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery
Post by: Jaques on February 15, 2013, 02:58:35 PM
Jaques, unfortunately bbit is a scammer, he applied for our beta tester launch promo and when we sent him the 1 FREE BTC to play, he kept it for himself, refused to play or to return the BTC.

1. First he sign up to participate in the beta testing

I'll help!
1HYPdQXk3bURyXoznRseCp7XRd1FcHnPmy

 ;D

2. Before we sent the BTC to try the system, he claimed to be a winner and confirmed to have received the prize

I won 8 BTC it works!  ;D

3. After we sent him the BTC, he claim that thought it was a FREE BTC GIVE AWAY, refused to use the BTC to play and to give it back.

Read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140349.0 for more information.

Is sad to see people like that in the community. :(

ok, i see, thank you


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on February 15, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
OK, very cool that you replied right away.  What I mean is there should be a way to contact you from the site other than mailing a letter.  Obviously I am like millions of other people who want to play your game- otherwise I wouldn't be on this thread telling you what I don't like.  

I still have no idea what you mean about my ticket.  OK, so I shouldn't enter my deposit address in order to find my ticket.  What address should I enter?

The whole point of having a place on the site to answer questions is so that dimwits like me can ask them.  I realize that the answer is obvious to you, but it isn't obvious to me.  And I'm not really bashing you even though it looks that way from my first post.  I just want to know how this all works, and I have not been able to find my answer in the FAQ.  My next step was to simply email you and ask, but that isn't possible from your site.

you should enter your address, not ours.

this means the address that belongs to you, the address you have the private key.

By the way, the address 1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32 isn't your particular deposit address. it is the address that bitmillions use for everyone to buy tickets (similar to satoshidice bet addresses).

Let's assume that you're using the original bitcoin client and don't have control over what address will be used to send the bitcoins. As you can see in the search box on the site: "Enter Transaction ID or Address to find your Ticket", so just put the transaction id and you will find your tickets.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 15, 2013, 04:24:36 PM
I use blockchain.info, and I just looked at the address that I sent money from to find my ticket.  Finally.  LOL.  Why do they say "play for 68 draws" under my ticket and to the right?  What does this mean?  Why do I have two tickets?  I thought by sending .1BTC I would get ten plays?

Thanks for answering my questions!  :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 15, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
I use blockchain.info, and I just looked at the address that I sent money from to find my ticket.  Finally.  LOL.  Why do they say "play for 68 draws" under my ticket and to the right?  What does this mean?  Why do I have two tickets?  I thought by sending .1BTC I would get ten plays?

Thanks for answering my questions!  :)

What is you address? Or send me the link to your ticket so I can take a look.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: bbit on February 16, 2013, 07:34:15 AM
I really like the idea of a bitcoin lottery and I played yesterday.  As of right now I will not play again.  Why?

YOUR SITE SUCKS.

First, for a for-profit business to have no way to ask a question and no contact link is just not acceptable.  I know you want to sit on your ass and collect money, but in the real world people have questions and if you have customers you have to answer those questions.  It is called "customer service", and it is important.

Second, even though your site says that I can check my "ticket" by entering the payment address, I did that and it always says "0 tickets found" and "Displaying latest 0 tickets".  Here is my deposit address so you can try it for yourself:

1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32

The funny thing is I got a payment out of the bet, but there is no way for me to see the "ticket" that your site "produced".



Basically this. Everything is broken and doesn't work. It's going to turn out these guys are going to be some sort of scam they have it written all over them.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 16, 2013, 08:09:54 AM
Basically this. Everything is broken and doesn't work. It's going to turn out these guys are going to be some sort of scam they have it written all over them.

The guy who was complaining was basically mistaken about everything.  He didn't realise there are multiple ways of contacting the site owners, and didn't understand that everyone sees the same deposit address, and that you're meant to use your sending address when searching.

None of his criticisms were really anything that needed fixing, except perhaps that things need to be clearer on the site.

If these guys were planning to run a scam, I doubt they would have left such large amounts in the prize pools when they dropped the price of a ticket by a factor of 10.  They could quite justifiably have reduced each prize pool by a factor of 10, but decided not to.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 16, 2013, 08:54:51 AM
Basically this. Everything is broken and doesn't work.

Could you please be more specif in what is broken and doesn't work?

It's going to turn out these guys are going to be some sort of scam they have it written all over them.

We see the world the way we are.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 16, 2013, 09:11:48 AM
If these guys were planning to run a scam, I doubt they would have left such large amounts in the prize pools when they dropped the price of a ticket by a factor of 10.  They could quite justifiably have reduced each prize pool by a factor of 10, but decided not to.

Thanks dooglus, that is exactly the reason why we chose to keep the pools as the were, we wanted to be true to our word.

We didn't work for 6 months of working 10 hours a day (including weekends ) + investing over $50K ( 1300 BTC in Pools, plus Programming, plus Design, etc ) for nothing. We are here for the long run.

That is why I think its important for the Bitcoin Community to build successful businesses, operators of the businesses that do not make money eventually either close their doors or worst yet, run aways. Operators of profitable businesses that are making money, like to keep their businesses running as long as possible.

Our best interest is that users like our game and keeps playing it, that is how we make money so we can to keep developing new sites, games, applications for more devices, etc... to grown the Bitcoin economy.

In my opinion, that is the only possible way that this amazing new currency can succeed.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 16, 2013, 01:24:16 PM
Basically this. Everything is broken and doesn't work. It's going to turn out these guys are going to be some sort of scam they have it written all over them.

The guy who was complaining was basically mistaken about everything.  He didn't realise there are multiple ways of contacting the site owners, and didn't understand that everyone sees the same deposit address, and that you're meant to use your sending address when searching.

None of his criticisms were really anything that needed fixing, except perhaps that things need to be clearer on the site.

If these guys were planning to run a scam, I doubt they would have left such large amounts in the prize pools when they dropped the price of a ticket by a factor of 10.  They could quite justifiably have reduced each prize pool by a factor of 10, but decided not to.

I wasn't mistaken- there is no kind of customer support on the site whatsoever.  I stand by that.  Also I have a lot of other questions that are not based on me being mistaken but on the site giving me false information.  I was shown two tickets but suddenly something has been changed  and now I see only one ticket.  I Bet 0.1 bitcoin and got .02 bitcoin back, but the two tickets were showing a lot more than that.  They were showing a profit as ShaTwo confirmed.  There is a lot of confusion about what happens to these "tickets". 


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 16, 2013, 11:01:23 PM
I wasn't mistaken- there is no kind of customer support on the site whatsoever.  I stand by that.

https://bitmillions.com/about has these links for support:

http://i.imgur.com/RgT1bij.png

Also I have a lot of other questions that are not based on me being mistaken but on the site giving me false information.  I was shown two tickets but suddenly something has been changed  and now I see only one ticket.  I Bet 0.1 bitcoin and got .02 bitcoin back, but the two tickets were showing a lot more than that.  They were showing a profit as ShaTwo confirmed.  There is a lot of confusion about what happens to these "tickets". 

Fair enough.  I thought most of the confusion was caused by you not understanding that you were meant to use your sending address, not the site's receiving address.  I stand corrected.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: E on February 16, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
This is pretty much to be expected given how the draws are generated, but FWIW:

Code:
In := DistributionFitTest[numbersDrawn, DiscreteUniformDistribution[{0, 99}]
Out = 0.776266

That's the P-value for a Pearson chi squared test against the last 1000 draws with null hypothesis that the numbers are drawn from a uniform distribution between 0 and 99; a P value of 0.776 rejects the possibility of non-uniform draws with high confidence. So that's good :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 17, 2013, 01:39:55 AM
TipTopGemDotCom, seam like you are a very confused...

I wasn't mistaken- there is no kind of customer support on the site whatsoever.  I stand by that.  Also I have a lot of other questions that are not based on me being mistaken but on the site giving me false information.

Again, so far you been the person who asked more questions and received more answers that any other player, so I honestly can't understand why you keep saying this.

I was shown two tickets but suddenly something has been changed and now I see only one ticket.  

Based on the information you sent me, I can see you are betting from 2 different addresses:

1 Ticket from https://bitmillions.com/address/19CU1e8gLYmhLXDLKrjsbGsQtuSZk3vQEF
2 Tickets from https://bitmillions.com/address/18E81JFWYYvUXrVfgmTU7J5tTH57BUAhXw

I Bet 0.1 bitcoin and got .02 bitcoin back

Based on the ticket you sent me:
https://bitmillions.com/tickets/44105098c52b79dca5915547c138333c8944a56fa14ae3229b05b4185b076342:0

Receiving 0.02 BTC seams to be correct. Here is the link to the payment transaction:
http://blockchain.info/tx/1336f20951725a4d2fb1c4c4429ff4b27a02473ed7848d2e12b14448f328daa9

But the two tickets were showing a lot more than that.

I guess you are referring to the ticket you played on the other address:
2 Tickets from https://bitmillions.com/address/18E81JFWYYvUXrVfgmTU7J5tTH57BUAhXw

You can see those 2 tickets where correctly paid to the following address:
http://blockchain.info/address/18E81JFWYYvUXrVfgmTU7J5tTH57BUAhXw

They were showing a profit as ShaTwo confirmed.  There is a lot of confusion about what happens to these "tickets".  

I would rephrase this as "I am very confused about what happened to these "tickets"

Also I already gave you my email address, you can the IRC Channel, you can PM ( As you already did a few times ), so I honestly don't understand why you keep claiming that we don't provide customer support.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 17, 2013, 10:43:42 AM
My questions about the tickets have been answered.  I maintain that twitter, facebook, etc are no way to provide customer support.  A contact form is acceptable or an email address and both of these should be on the site.  Charly, I think you are not prepared for any kind of criticism and this reflects very badly on you.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on February 17, 2013, 04:50:21 PM
My questions about the tickets have been answered.  I maintain that twitter, facebook, etc are no way to provide customer support.  A contact form is acceptable or an email address and both of these should be on the site.

I have to agree with this, as to use any of the four ways to contact you(bitmillions), I must have an account in one of the them. A contact form or even an email in your site will facilitate a lot the comunication.


Charly, I think you are not prepared for any kind of criticism and this reflects very badly on you.

I have to disagree with this. The problem was that you(tiptopgemdotcom) wasn't very polite in your first post. So I think you can't complain about the message was sent to you, and I don't think he was disrespectful.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 17, 2013, 06:28:41 PM
My questions about the tickets have been answered.  I maintain that twitter, facebook, etc are no way to provide customer support.  A contact form is acceptable or an email address and both of these should be on the site.

I have to agree with this, as to use any of the four ways to contact you(bitmillions), I must have an account in one of the them. A contact form or even an email in your site will facilitate a lot the comunication.


Charly, I think you are not prepared for any kind of criticism and this reflects very badly on you.

I have to disagree with this. The problem was that you(tiptopgemdotcom) wasn't very polite in your first post. So I think you can't complain about the message was sent to you, and I don't think he was disrespectful.

I agree with you BRules.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on February 17, 2013, 06:32:50 PM
Happy to see more and more lucky winners!  ;D

With a ticket of ฿ 0.34 player won 41.3098 BTC!

Check Ticket at https://bitmillions.com/tickets/494a6a2eba69209d557b49c92236c81fc47b8b9a7271d06137a3f0699386f574:1

41.27977753 BTC paid to 1PaoRh69ARSNaGRETuWo2ZmuihKbqtHpQP

Pay TX http://blockchain.info/tx/2fa2779637309b8c8edec22e62cfa744d3b0071ab920996211cf073725a2650e


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 17, 2013, 06:34:40 PM
My questions about the tickets have been answered.  I maintain that twitter, facebook, etc are no way to provide customer support.  A contact form is acceptable or an email address and both of these should be on the site.  Charly, I think you are not prepared for any kind of criticism and this reflects very badly on you.

Dave, I take your criticism and we will incorporate additional contact methods on the page.

We will have:

- Facebook
- Twitter
- Google+
- BitcoinTalk
- IRC Channel on Freenode
- Contact Form

Any other suggestion?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on February 17, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
I will try not to clutter up your inbox once you get the contact form up!  It would be nice to see instructions on how to get to the "sent" address from various wallets.  In blockchain.info it is not straightforward unless I am missing something (entirely possible).  Until now I never had a reason to know where the coins came from.

One way to really make the site streamlined would be to allow customers to upload coins to bet with.  Some will love it and some will hate it but imagine how easy the interface could be then.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on February 17, 2013, 08:11:48 PM
I will try not to clutter up your inbox once you get the contact form up!  It would be nice to see instructions on how to get to the "sent" address from various wallets.  In blockchain.info it is not straightforward unless I am missing something (entirely possible).  Until now I never had a reason to know where the coins came from.

One way to really make the site streamlined would be to allow customers to upload coins to bet with.  Some will love it and some will hate it but imagine how easy the interface could be then.

On blockchain.info, when you click on send money, on the left side you have "Custom" on section "Transaction Type".There you can chose from what address you wanna send your bitcoins.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 17, 2013, 08:23:38 PM
It would be nice to see instructions on how to get to the "sent" address from various wallets.  In blockchain.info it is not straightforward unless I am missing something (entirely possible).

Go to the 'transactions' tab, then open the 'View' menu in the top right, and select 'Detailed'.  It will give you the transaction id of each of your transactions as well as a list of input and output addresses.

http://i.imgur.com/78R0cV5.png


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on February 17, 2013, 09:42:42 PM
one thing is worrying me, I'm seeing that the pool 4 has 1541 transactions to it and a total of 1165 btc in it.

As no one have won the prize of this pool yet, this mean that these transactions are sending bitcoins to this address.

The first transaction was 1000 btc, this means that all the other 1540 transactions sent 165 btc to it.

statistically talking, the winners of this pool will receive about 6000 btc. this means that when this pool will be paid to the winners, it will have about 56000 unspent transactions. this is a lot of inputs, it will totalize more than 8MB with compressed keys. this is a total of 32 blocks entirely filled with your "transaction".

I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 17, 2013, 10:28:09 PM
I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize

Maybe have a small online address for pool 4, and dump it once per day into the offline wallet.

Also, you should regularly consolidate the outputs at the offline pool addresses.  Make a transaction that takes a bunch of small outputs from the 'match-4' address and sends a single output back to the same address.  If you include the 1000 BTC output as one of the inputs then you'll be able to include 65 tiny inputs with it while staying within the 10000 byte limit for free transactions.  So long as the value of the transaction times the number of confirmations of the inputs is bigger than 5760 the transaction is free.  So you can consolidate 65 tiny outputs every 6 blocks for free.  Since you're hopefully only adding one output to each pool for each block you'll quickly get the offline pool tidied up.

Also, the amounts shown in https://bitmillions.com/faq#7 are out of date.  It would be better to either have them show the live balance or not show the balances at all.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 18, 2013, 02:55:11 AM
one thing is worrying me, I'm seeing that the pool 4 has 1541 transactions to it and a total of 1165 btc in it.

As no one have won the prize of this pool yet, this mean that these transactions are sending bitcoins to this address.

The first transaction was 1000 btc, this means that all the other 1540 transactions sent 165 btc to it.

statistically talking, the winners of this pool will receive about 6000 btc. this means that when this pool will be paid to the winners, it will have about 56000 unspent transactions. this is a lot of inputs, it will totalize more than 8MB with compressed keys. this is a total of 32 blocks entirely filled with your "transaction".

I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize

Yes, we know about this problem, what is why we are working in a script that will consolidate small inputs on the Pool # 4 Address once a day

Maybe have a small online address for pool 4, and dump it once per day into the offline wallet.

This is also a very good suggestion, thanks dooglus! Will look into it.

Right now we consolidated the payments for 6 block in one Transaction to try to make it not as small. In the future when game become very popular I thing we will have to do like dooglus suggested and break the transaction in parts.

Also, the amounts shown in https://bitmillions.com/faq#7 are out of date.  It would be better to either have them show the live balance or not show the balances at all.

I think you are talking about Question #12 ( How can I verify that there are sufficient funds to cover the prizes? ), correct?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 18, 2013, 03:54:46 AM
I think you are talking about Question #12 ( How can I verify that there are sufficient funds to cover the prizes? ), correct?

Yes, #12 sorry.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 20, 2013, 04:27:24 AM
Yeah... this site is terribly messed up.... I tried and tried to input the transaction IDs for .025 btc I sent just trying the site out and was UNABLE to get anything about any tickets (I should have 'bought' 2 tickets with .02 btc).  The transaction TO Bitmillions wallet ID WAS confirmed by blockchain.info.

I have to say that I won't be trying this site again unless things change drastically.  Shouldn't be out of the testing phase IMO.  Glad I didn't send more than .025 btc.

Even IF I was able to see tickets I 'bought' by entering my own wallet's 'send' IDs there MUST be an easier way to show your consumers their ticket numbers, the current system (discounting the fact that I couldn't get it to work AT ALL) is just too clumsy/confusing.

In addition to the above... the site is NOT showing the total jackpot available in the red box nor is it showing the 'last 4 winning numbers on the left side of the front page.  ALSO, in addition, the About Us tab goes to a blank page with NO information about contact addresses for Twitter, Facebook, Google+ OR Bitcointalk as stated earlier itt.

Something is very wrong here.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 20, 2013, 05:37:55 AM
Yeah... this site is terribly messed up.... I tried and tried to input the transaction IDs for .025 btc I sent just trying the site out and was UNABLE to get anything about any tickets (I should have 'bought' 2 tickets with .02 btc).  The transaction TO Bitmillions wallet ID WAS confirmed by blockchain.info.

I have to say that I won't be trying this site again unless things change drastically.  Shouldn't be out of the testing phase IMO.  Glad I didn't send more than .025 btc.

Could you please tell me your Bitcoin address or the ID of the Transaction you sent?

Even IF I was able to see tickets I 'bought' by entering my own wallet's 'send' IDs there MUST be an easier way to show your consumers their ticket numbers, the current system (discounting the fact that I couldn't get it to work AT ALL) is just too clumsy/confusing.

In addition to the above... the site is NOT showing the total jackpot available in the red box nor is it showing the 'last 4 winning numbers on the left side of the front page.  ALSO, in addition, the About Us tab goes to a blank page with NO information about contact addresses for Twitter, Facebook, Google+ OR Bitcointalk as stated earlier itt.

Something is very wrong here.

What browser are you using? Could you please try deleting your browser cache and refreshing the page to see if that solves the problem?

[Edit] Looks like it was a problem with a JavaScript Library that loads only on Internet Explorer, that was not loading on SSL.
The issue was fixed, site should be working fine on IE now.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 20, 2013, 05:53:55 AM
PMd the asked for information and results of clearing cache.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: TradeFortress on February 20, 2013, 06:09:49 AM
If these guys were planning to run a scam, I doubt they would have left such large amounts in the prize pools when they dropped the price of a ticket by a factor of 10.  They could quite justifiably have reduced each prize pool by a factor of 10, but decided not to.

Thanks dooglus, that is exactly the reason why we chose to keep the pools as the were, we wanted to be true to our word.

We didn't work for 6 months of working 10 hours a day (including weekends ) + investing over $50K ( 1300 BTC in Pools, plus Programming, plus Design, etc ) for nothing. We are here for the long run.

That is why I think its important for the Bitcoin Community to build successful businesses, operators of the businesses that do not make money eventually either close their doors or worst yet, run aways. Operators of profitable businesses that are making money, like to keep their businesses running as long as possible.

Our best interest is that users like our game and keeps playing it, that is how we make money so we can to keep developing new sites, games, applications for more devices, etc... to grown the Bitcoin economy.

In my opinion, that is the only possible way that this amazing new currency can succeed.

You spent 1,800 hours on this?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 20, 2013, 06:11:41 AM
Yeah... this site is terribly messed up.... I tried and tried to input the transaction IDs for .025 btc I sent just trying the site out and was UNABLE to get anything about any tickets

There's only ever been one transaction to the bitmillions address that starts with 0.025:

http://i.imgur.com/qtyCQnU.png

Here's the ticket.  Interesting that the address it shows (17YHN...) was the 11th input. It's normal for sites to use the first input as the 'sending address'.

http://i.imgur.com/uB0POv3.png


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 20, 2013, 06:12:06 AM
You spent 1,800 hours on this?

I may take some days off and browse Reddit & BitcoinTalk from time to time in the middle :) So not sure the exact number of hours...
Most of the work you can not see it, since is on the Backend, also we tested the system for several weeks before launching.

TradeFortress, I use to be faster when I was younger :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 20, 2013, 06:15:18 AM
PMd the asked for information and results of clearing cache.

Just answered, ticket was received correctly ( don't like to give TxID for user privacy )... problems seems to be related with issues with IE9.

If somebody else is using Internet Explorer 9, could you please tell me if you can see the site correctly?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 20, 2013, 06:21:14 AM
Ok... ShaTwo got back to me VERY quickly after PM here after all... I was a bit tilted by the non-functionality I encountered so...

Anyway, it appears that IE9 may be the culprit, not even working after dumping cache.  At ShaTwo's suggestion I tried Chrome (which I never use) and the site IS indeed working as advertised and I WAS able to view my 'tickets' (though they lost...  :P ).  In Chrome the site looks pretty good and has a nice feel to it.  Cheers guys.  Seems I'm a 'bug locator' ... ;) 
I may very well try the site out again.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: Aahzman on February 20, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
My questions about the tickets have been answered.  I maintain that twitter, facebook, etc are no way to provide customer support.  A contact form is acceptable or an email address and both of these should be on the site.  Charly, I think you are not prepared for any kind of criticism and this reflects very badly on you.

Dave, I take your criticism and we will incorporate additional contact methods on the page.

We will have:

- Facebook
- Twitter
- Google+
- BitcoinTalk
- IRC Channel on Freenode
- Contact Form

Any other suggestion?

um..let's see..

Semaphore (flag signals)
Native American Smoke Signals
That flashing-light-thingy signalling method naval ships use
Telegraph/Morse Code
Personal landline and mobile telephone numbers for all Sha Two employees
Telephone #'s for all Sha Two employees families (in case you aren't answering your own phones)
Perhaps some sort of web-accessible device mounted on each Sha Two employee, allowing customers to send minor electrical shocks when they have a problem or question
Home addresses for all Sha Two employees so customers can come bang on your door in the middle of the night yelling "WHARZ MUH TICKETZES?!?"

I think that covers pretty much every contact method... :-D

 


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: Aahzman on February 20, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
IE9 may be the culprit

Well, there's yer trouble, right there. IE9 is the coding output of Satan. I'd rather use Safari and be bottle fed the sites that Steve Jobs' ghost says I should look at, rather than surf the web with the pile of steaming bear shit that is IE.

Web browsing with IE is like swimming naked in the sewer. You might get where you want to go, eventually, but god only knows the diseases and infections you'll pick up along the way.

Friends don't let friends use IE.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 20, 2013, 05:51:57 PM
Web browsing with IE is like swimming naked in the sewer. You might get where you want to go, eventually, but god only knows the diseases and infections you'll pick up along the way.

LOL  :D


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 21, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
Nothing wrong with IE IF you're smart enough and can be bothered to take your security seriously.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 21, 2013, 06:54:48 AM
Nothing wrong with IE

take your security seriously.

Both in the same sentence!  :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 21, 2013, 01:45:57 PM
Internet memes and certain beliefs to the contrary it IS possible to make security under IE nearly as tight as any other browser, you just have to research the issues, keep up-to-date and use the proper settings and security programs.  It's really NOT that difficult.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 21, 2013, 06:09:59 PM
Even when I don't really like IE, still accounts for 29% of the whole internet users ( http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201301-201302-bar )

Could somebody with IE can please confirm that the site ( https://bitmillions.com ) works fine on IE?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 22, 2013, 04:23:02 AM
Even when I don't really like IE, still accounts for 29% of the whole internet users ( http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201301-201302-bar )

Could somebody with IE can please confirm that the site ( https://bitmillions.com ) works fine on IE?

Still not working in IE9 for me.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 22, 2013, 04:58:43 AM
Still not working in IE9 for me.

So weir, in my IE9 works just fine... that why I am trying to see if more people have the same problem... anybody with IE9 around? What about iE8?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: payb.tc on February 22, 2013, 05:06:06 AM
What about iE8?

ie gives the following (and only the following):

a beige page
a small black bar at the top
a green bar at the top
a red rectangle in the green bar
text above red rectangle: Total bitcoin Prizes WIN THE JACKPOT WITH ONLY ฿ 0.01!!


...*nothing* else on the page other than as described above


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: NoobMiner on February 22, 2013, 07:49:27 AM
What about iE8?

ie gives the following (and only the following):

a beige page
a small black bar at the top
a green bar at the top
a red rectangle in the green bar
text above red rectangle: Total bitcoin Prizes WIN THE JACKPOT WITH ONLY ฿ 0.01!!


...*nothing* else on the page other than as described above


There you go... similar to what it does for me... not exactly but similar.  I still see the charts of latest draws/tickets and etc... but no latest numbers at the top left just empty 'dots' and the red box for Total Bitcoin prizes is blank, and as last night and I have to assume is still the same, putting a tx id in the search box doesn't work (not sure if this is till true because I haven't played since last night).... as I said, works like a champ in Chrome... same computer.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on February 22, 2013, 08:34:33 AM
http://netrenderer.com/ claims to show you how any page renders in lots of different versions of IE.  I can't get it to render bitmillions.com at all though.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 23, 2013, 04:01:53 AM
http://netrenderer.com/ claims to show you how any page renders in lots of different versions of IE.  I can't get it to render bitmillions.com at all though.

Not sure that is very reliable, I am trying to use http://browsershots.org/https://bitmillions.com/# and http://browsera.com to see if I can find the problem.

Thanks so much for everybody's help!!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on February 25, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
I think we got the issue with IE8, IE9 & IE10 resolved. Thanks for everybody who helped us find out about the issue. :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 01, 2013, 06:57:29 PM
Hello! Amazing first month at BitMillions.com! Thanks to everybody who trusted us with your bets! :)

Very good +EV Pools #2 & #3 right now.

Pool # 4 - BTC 1,198.6274
Pool # 3 - BTC 96.3325
Pool # 2 - BTC 1.0708


Playing just BTC 0.01 you could hit the JackPot and win up to BTC 1,200!
With a 50% pool retain, a bet of BTC 0.01 ( $0.34.- ) could make you BTC 600 ( $20,400.- )!

Visit https://bitmillions.com and give it a try! :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on March 01, 2013, 09:39:03 PM
Pool # 4 - BTC 1,198.6274
Pool # 3 - BTC 96.3325
Pool # 2 - BTC 1.0708


Playing just BTC 0.01 you could hit the JackPot and win up to BTC 1.200!
With a 50% pool retain, a bet of BTC 0.01 ( $0.34.- ) could make you BTC 600 ( $20.400.- )!

You keep switching what you mean by '.' in a number.

In "1,198.6274" it's a decimal point.
Then in "win up to BTC 1.200" it's indicating 1000's.
Then you switch back to using it as a decimal point in "a bet of BTC 0.01"
and then you switch again, here using it as both at the same time! "$20.400.-"

I think you need to make your mind up about what '.' means to you...


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 02, 2013, 07:38:22 AM
You keep switching what you mean by '.' in a number.

You are correct! Fixed! Sorry about that... in my country we use it differently, that is why I keep mixing them up.

I think you need to make your mind up about what '.' means to you...

I already made me mind, I will use the '.' for decimal & ',' for thousands,  I just need to remember to do it!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on March 06, 2013, 04:45:05 PM
Pools keep growing!

http://i.imgur.com/srJdp1R.jpg

฿ 1,318.7290 in Prizes!

Come & Play with only ฿ 0.01!

https://bitmillions.com/


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: SgtSpike on March 06, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
You seem to have a significantly lower number of players right now than you did earlier on (3-4 tickets played at once vs 16-20).  What do you attribute this to?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on March 06, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
maybe a lack of advertising?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 06, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
maybe a lack of advertising?

Maybe... we are starting a new advertising campaign on Monday. :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on March 07, 2013, 04:33:46 AM

New BitMillions Winner!!! Won ฿ 55.1600 with only ฿ 0.11

Check Draw at https://bitmillions.com/draws/224598

Still more than ฿1,264.3941 in Prizes!! Come and Play with only ฿ 0.01!

http://i.imgur.com/XBSWldc.jpg


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: BRules on March 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
we will have more new soon about what this "Partners" means.

So, any news about it?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - Just Launched with more than ฿ 1,300 in Prizes!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 08, 2013, 07:43:23 AM
we will have more new soon about what this "Partners" means.

So, any news about it?

Yep, we will be announcing our Beta Partners Program in a few days.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: aussie_striker on March 08, 2013, 09:37:21 AM
Pool # 4 - BTC 1,198.6274
Pool # 3 - BTC 96.3325
Pool # 2 - BTC 1.0708


Playing just BTC 0.01 you could hit the JackPot and win up to BTC 1.200!
With a 50% pool retain, a bet of BTC 0.01 ( $0.34.- ) could make you BTC 600 ( $20.400.- )!

You keep switching what you mean by '.' in a number.

In "1,198.6274" it's a decimal point.
Then in "win up to BTC 1.200" it's indicating 1000's.
Then you switch back to using it as a decimal point in "a bet of BTC 0.01"
and then you switch again, here using it as both at the same time! "$20.400.-"

I think you need to make your mind up about what '.' means to you...

Yes it is confusing, looks like pool #4 is 1,198 BTC worth more than $48,000


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: aussie_striker on March 08, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
Come to think of it I believe I accidently sent some traffic to this site by mistakenly putting a M instead of a B when sending links to some friends.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: dooglus on March 08, 2013, 09:46:21 AM
Yes it is confusing, looks like pool #4 is 1,198 BTC worth more than $48,000

That's right.  Pool 4 is big.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: CurbsideProphet on March 09, 2013, 02:36:54 AM
Yes it is confusing, looks like pool #4 is 1,198 BTC worth more than $48,000

That's right.  Pool 4 is big.

I still think it's misleading as the payout is only 50% of the pool.  So while the pool may be worth BTC1,198, there's no way you can win that amount.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 12, 2013, 04:01:49 AM
Important Notice:

Due to the chain fork caused by v0.8 ( See at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152030 ) Draws & Transaction Processing has been temporally paused & will be resumed once the issue is resolved by the Core Dev Team.

None of your transactions will be loss, they all will be processed when the system is reactivated.

[EDIT] The Lottery System has been reactivated. You should see your tickets now and Draws are in the process of been calculated, in a couple of minutes everything should be normal. We didn't upgrade to 0.8 so we always where in the 0.7 Block Chain.

[EDIT] Draws are processed and everything seems to be stable.

Anyways, payments will still paused until the situation in fully resolved.

Thanks,

Charly


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on March 13, 2013, 01:22:53 AM
a bug:

-open the site
-select english
-it will open https://bitmillions.com/lng/en and will redirect to https://bitmillions.com/
-select english again
-it will open https://bitmillions.com/lng/en and then it will redirect to https://bitmillions.com/lng/en creating a loop.

regards

PS: I'm curious about the partner program that you are already collecting bitcoins to it. Can you say beforehand how it will work?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 13, 2013, 04:59:33 AM
a bug:

-open the site
-select english
-it will open https://bitmillions.com/lng/en and will redirect to https://bitmillions.com/
-select english again
-it will open https://bitmillions.com/lng/en and then it will redirect to https://bitmillions.com/lng/en creating a loop.

regards

PS: I'm curious about the partner program that you are already collecting bitcoins to it. Can you say beforehand how it will work?


Thanks I will check it.

We are a finishing up some details, but basically we will be able to give partners:

- Revenue Share in all the Tickets they sell ( 20% to 60% Based on Volume )
- Customized Unique Betting Address for your players.
- Partner link to BitMillions.com ( Ex: bitmillions.com/partner/xxxxx ) that will set a cookie and display your betting address.
- Access to our APIs so they will be able to create a complete custom designed website / Android App / IRC Bot, etc.

If you are interested in been one of the first partners, PM me.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on March 13, 2013, 04:38:52 PM
tks for your offer, but nowadays I'm very busy in my real life and I won't be able to give the proper attention to it. But it looks like promising. Good Luck with it.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: aussie_striker on March 15, 2013, 11:00:22 AM
Yes it is confusing, looks like pool #4 is 1,198 BTC worth more than $48,000

That's right.  Pool 4 is big.

Yeah but is it 1,198 BTC or
is it 1.198 BTC

There is a huge difference.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BRules on March 15, 2013, 02:13:17 PM
1,198 (USA thousands separator)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on March 19, 2013, 12:41:38 AM
New Winner!!

Won 40.5802 bitcoins (U$S 2,070) with a ฿ 0.14 Ticket!!


Still ฿ 1,267 (U$S 64,617) in prizes!

Check ticket at http://goo.gl/nrczG

Play at http://bitmillions.com/

http://i.imgur.com/b0WiGkN.jpg


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: BitMillions on March 19, 2013, 07:17:16 PM

We are very excited to announce our New Affiliate Program!!

Start making more profit with your website or signature, anyone is welcome to join, just leave a message here or send us a pm.

More info at:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155027.0



Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: remotemass on March 21, 2013, 05:04:40 AM
Once you get that last hash and it is converted to decimal numbers, why do you skip the first 5 pairs?
Also, what if the resulting numbers were extremely repetitive and less than 4 unique pairs could be grabbed?
What would be the winning numbers in such extremely unlikely case?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: TradeFortress on March 21, 2013, 09:30:05 AM
Once you get that last hash and it is converted to decimal numbers, why do you skip the first 5 pairs?
Also, what if the resulting numbers were extremely repetitive and less than 4 unique pairs could be grabbed?
What would be the winning numbers in such extremely unlikely case?
The second case is practically impossible - someone generated a few million hashes and it didn't came up IIRC.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 21, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
Once you get that last hash and it is converted to decimal numbers, why do you skip the first 5 pairs?

No special reason to chose 4, it could have been any number.
But the idea is that we will be able to use the same Big Integer to different games. In another game we just skip 10 pairs and got 4 completely different numbers from the same hash.

Also, what if the resulting numbers were extremely repetitive and less than 4 unique pairs could be grabbed?

Repetitive numbers are also skipped, the algoritm will grab the next pair until 4 unique pair of numbers are obtained.
Take a look to Draw # 225.098 for example ( https://bitmillions.com/draws/225098 ) the second [21] is skipped, because is already included in the winning numbers.

What would be the winning numbers in such extremely unlikely case?

As stated above, is not a problem and it will never happen.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on March 21, 2013, 06:45:08 PM

What would be the winning numbers in such extremely unlikely case?

As stated above, is not a problem and it will never happen.

mathematically speaking:

each big number has 154 characters, so it can be divided into 77 numbers with two digits

the first 5 numbers with 2 digits are skipped, so there are 72 numbers left

so the best chance to it happens is:

(1/100) * (1/50) * ((1/33.33) ^ 69) = 1.6803 * (10 ^ -109)

so, this will never happen


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 21, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
mathematically speaking:

each big number has 154 characters, so it can be divided into 77 numbers with two digits

the first 5 numbers with 2 digits are skipped, so there are 72 numbers left

so the best chance to it happens is:

(1/100) * (1/50) * ((1/33.33) ^ 69) = 1.6803 * (10 ^ -109)

so, this will never happen

Thanks for the further clarification BRules!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: remotemass on March 21, 2013, 09:43:18 PM
How does the housing fees of your game compares with the housing fees of lottery games like the Euromillions?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on March 21, 2013, 10:14:06 PM
they take 10% of losing tickets, so their house edge is 7.5% in average, national lotterys take a minimum of 30%


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: TradeFortress on March 21, 2013, 10:43:03 PM
How does the housing fees of your game compares with the housing fees of lottery games like the Euromillions?
Do not forget that the EV can be positive if the pot is large enough :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: frga13 on March 22, 2013, 02:08:09 AM
I really like it.
Looks very professional, and is a lot of fun. 
And I won 0.9 BTC yesterday 8)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 22, 2013, 03:51:51 AM
they take 10% of losing tickets, so their house edge is 7.5% in average, national lotterys take a minimum of 30%

Not only that, traditional lotteries as I posted before:

State Loteries

- 40% Goverment & Administration Fees (*1)
- 30% Lump Sum Deduction (*2)
- 43% Goverment Taxes Deduction (*2)

Players Spend in Tickets: $10.000.000.-

JackPot is $6.000.000.-

Paid as Lump Sum: $3.900.000.-

After Taxes: $2.223.000

BitMillions

Total Players Spend in Tickets: BTC 138.000.-

Total Prizes Paid to Players: BTC 127.650.-

All prizes are fully paid as Lump Sump & with no Tax Deductions as soon as the player ticket got enough confirmations ( Each Player is responsable for reporting to his Tax Jurisdiction )

In Sumary

At same amount of Bets

BitMillions will Paid Back to Players: BTC 127.650 ( Around $9.255.000 with BTC at $72.5 )
State Loteries Paid Back to Players: $2.223.000

Of course this is a basic example, since there is Sale Taxes, Smaller Jackpots, etc, that are not tacked into consideration.

And we are not even talking about the transparency and the Provably Fair Winning Number that make it imposible to the operator to cheat on the results.

Sources:

(*1) http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/econ/lottery-payouts-and-state-revenue-2010.aspx
(*2) http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2012/08/15/how-much-tax-will-you-owe-on-that-320-million-powerball-jackpot/

Disclamer: Since we only charge in Lossing Bets, and chances of matching 1 are 1 in 6.86 we estimate that the house fee is around 8.5% and not 10%

[EDITED] House Fee Edited as corrected bellow.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on March 22, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
Disclamer: Since we only charge in Lossing Bets, and chances of matching 1 are 1 in 6.86 we estimate that the house fee is around 7% and not 10%

hmmm.. looks like I was doing some wrong calcs. but with this information now I'm getting about 8.5% house edge.

1 in 6.86 is 14.57% and 10% * (1-0.1457) = 8.5%

what am I'm missing?



Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: dooglus on March 22, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
Disclamer: Since we only charge in Lossing Bets, and chances of matching 1 are 1 in 6.86 we estimate that the house fee is around 7% and not 10%

1 in 6.86 is 14.57% and 10% * (1-0.1457) = 8.5%

what am I'm missing?

Just to add extra confusion, I get a slightly different result again, probably because I'm only counting losing bets as losing bets, whereas you're also counting match-2, 3, and 4 as losing bets I think.

79727040 out of 94109400 bets match nothing, and so are losing bet.  That's 84.71740% of bets.

The house keeps 10% of losing bets, so 8.47174%.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on March 22, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
yes, because they don't say anything on giving the ticket back when hitting 2,3 or 4 numbers but if we count these hits percentage we will get 14.575037% + 0.697741% + 0.009793% + 0.000026% = 15.282597%


so, 10% * (1-0.152826) = 8.47174%


I know this is the best scenario where we aren't couting the free plays and the discounts on largers bets. but I don't think they will reach 7%
 




Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ingrownpocket on March 22, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
They also have to pay tx fees and referral commissions.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on March 22, 2013, 08:26:46 PM
yes, so, in this case, their commision will reach 7%


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 23, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
You guys are correct, technically the house fee should be in around 8.5% ( Edited )

From that we need to deduct our costs:

- Transaction Fees
- Partners & Referrals
- Hosting & CDN ( CloudFlare )
- SEO & Advertising

Also risking of initial investment of BTC 1,300 in Prizes, plus the cost of building the site.

I guess after all these costs the net margin is much more lower than 7%, specially since we treat the BitMillions.com website as a Partner (at 50% RevShare) and use 100% of those funds for the marketing of the site.

The real action will come when we reach a BTC 5,000 JackPot, in our simulations, we got as higher as BTC 13,000 with an Exchange of $80 could be around $1,000,000 Dollar Pot! That will be interesting. I really think we will get there one day :)



Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: dooglus on March 23, 2013, 07:24:45 PM
You guys are correct, technically the house fee should be in around 8.5% ( Edited )

From that we need to deduct our costs:

The thing is that gamblers don't care what you spend the house edge on.  They just want to know how much you pay out and how much you keep.  Whether you spend your 8% house edge on advertising or drugs doesn't make a different to me.  I still only get 92% of each bet back on average.

A casino won't say "our house edge on roulette is less than 1% because we give you free drinks while you play and it cost a lot to build the casino in the first place".


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 24, 2013, 12:50:46 AM
You guys are correct, technically the house fee should be in around 8.5% ( Edited )

From that we need to deduct our costs:

The thing is that gamblers don't care what you spend the house edge on.  They just want to know how much you pay out and how much you keep.  Whether you spend your 8% house edge on advertising or drugs doesn't make a different to me.  I still only get 92% of each bet back on average.

A casino won't say "our house edge on roulette is less than 1% because we give you free drinks while you play and it cost a lot to build the casino in the first place".

I know Dooglus, that is why I edited the comment... I always claimed the House Fee is 10% of lossing bet, never really taked the time to do the math as you guys did. Thanks for that!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 26, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
ANOTHER LUCKY WINNER!!  ;D

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http://i.imgur.com/Wk4fTYT.jpg

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And ticket at https://bitmillions.com/tickets/f9c376b11a59f4db59d479b0b0d4642d6716582fe5c5bb9cb7100a4f2b068cd7:1




Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: midnightlightning on March 26, 2013, 03:50:51 PM
Just wanted to comment on a great design for your site, ShaTwo; I played a few times and really enjoy the feel of having a real "ticket" showing my bets. As a web designer/developer myself, I appreciate the design; Kudos!

A few suggestions, though, from me as a designer (if you don't mind):

One design choice I'd change is the style of the "Ticket Total Wins" header: to me the gold coloring doesn't make that line pop, and that's a line that I really want to see at a glance. Everywhere else on the site, gold/tan is a background color, which may be why it looks diminished to me. Plus it's very close to the orange used by the "profit button" on each ticket/draw when the bet was lost. Would you consider changing it either to green to match the color of a winning "profit button" or red (matching the "with this luck..." line beneath it) to really pop?

Also, what's the meaning behind the gold coin that's used next to the "Total Ticket Wins" header? I'm not sure what the imagery is in the middle of the gold coin; is that a cross? Or scales? Is there a reason it's not a Bitcoin "coin" like the coins used on the pool size table on the home page?

And the blue "Lotto" logo that's used on the detail page of any draw (https://bitmillions.com/draws/228114); was that left over from an earlier design? You have no blue anywhere else on the site, and the two "o"s in that logo look like they are two parts that combined into your current logo.

And finally, I agree with the comment that the display of the current jackpot size is misleading. Currently the big red box at the top of the site reads 1281.0461, but below it on the home page, pool 4 shows 1,245.0662 (and 35.66749 for three, and 0.312348 for two). If you add up the current pools 2, 3 and 4, you get the total in the red box. However, since the winner only takes 50%, I'd really like to see the red box show 640.5230 in that case, as that's the true winning jackpot at the moment. The listing of the pool sizes on the home page can stay as they are, since you have right beneath it that 50% of the pool is retained, but maybe have a separate table for "what you'd win right now if you matched 2, 3, or 4 numbers", which would show 640.5230, 17.9899, and 0.1562 respectively. Having the "current pool" and "you win this amount" tables combined isn't accurate and rather misleading.

Great site, and great responses to feedback in the forum, keep up the great work!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: midnightlightning on March 26, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
Oh, a few more usability quirks, while I'm at it:

When looking at a ticket (https://bitmillions.com/tickets/3550ebcec6858b9f0c9903dc53f5a233387487cedd206e891d6d727dbd748832:0#), the "order by draw" text in the upper-right of the list of draws played looks like it should be clickable (and shows a pointer cursor on hover), but doesn't do anything for me in Chrome. I presume it would enable you to sort the draws by winning amount (which would be awesome)? The same thing for the list of tickets on a draw detail page. Also, the little arrow next to the "order by draw" is different on the draw pages (solid arrow, pointing down) and the ticket pages (chevron pointing right); might want to harmonize those?

In your header, on the home page, there's a BitMillions logo that links back to the home page (useless; you're already on the home page), but on all other pages, the header is replaced to have the purchase address take up the majority of the space, and the logo is removed. The only link to the home page is then at the bottom of the page, in the footer. I've found myself multiple times mousing over the header looking for somewhere to click to go home, and then remembering it's at the bottom and having to scroll there. Maybe put some sort of "home" link in the header on internal pages, as that's a common user interface methodology?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on March 31, 2013, 01:50:30 AM
Just wanted to comment on a great design for your site, ShaTwo; I played a few times and really enjoy the feel of having a real "ticket" showing my bets. As a web designer/developer myself, I appreciate the design; Kudos!

Thanks midnightlightning! We worked hard on the design!

A few suggestions, though, from me as a designer (if you don't mind):

One design choice I'd change is the style of the "Ticket Total Wins" header: to me the gold coloring doesn't make that line pop, and that's a line that I really want to see at a glance. Everywhere else on the site, gold/tan is a background color, which may be why it looks diminished to me. Plus it's very close to the orange used by the "profit button" on each ticket/draw when the bet was lost. Would you consider changing it either to green to match the color of a winning "profit button" or red (matching the "with this luck..." line beneath it) to really pop?

Also, what's the meaning behind the gold coin that's used next to the "Total Ticket Wins" header? I'm not sure what the imagery is in the middle of the gold coin; is that a cross? Or scales? Is there a reason it's not a Bitcoin "coin" like the coins used on the pool size table on the home page?

And the blue "Lotto" logo that's used on the detail page of any draw (https://bitmillions.com/draws/228114); was that left over from an earlier design? You have no blue anywhere else on the site, and the two "o"s in that logo look like they are two parts that combined into your current logo.

I totally agree! By the way the Lotto Logo you mention was an option to replace the Gold Coin you mention... I also didn't like that header at all, but since we already we a few weeks behing schedule, we decided to launch anyways and change it latter... but that "latter" became longer that I thought.

And finally, I agree with the comment that the display of the current jackpot size is misleading. Currently the big red box at the top of the site reads 1281.0461, but below it on the home page, pool 4 shows 1,245.0662 (and 35.66749 for three, and 0.312348 for two). If you add up the current pools 2, 3 and 4, you get the total in the red box. However, since the winner only takes 50%, I'd really like to see the red box show 640.5230 in that case, as that's the true winning jackpot at the moment. The listing of the pool sizes on the home page can stay as they are, since you have right beneath it that 50% of the pool is retained, but maybe have a separate table for "what you'd win right now if you matched 2, 3, or 4 numbers", which would show 640.5230, 17.9899, and 0.1562 respectively. Having the "current pool" and "you win this amount" tables combined isn't accurate and rather misleading.

I totally understand your point, but when looking at any lottery site in the world, they all present it on the same way... so I honestly taked as a standard way to do it.

Great site, and great responses to feedback in the forum, keep up the great work!

Thanks :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: TradeFortress on March 31, 2013, 02:10:18 AM
One suggestion: How about paying out affiliate payments once it reaches 0.01? Creates quite a bit of small dust, and you're spending a lot in TX fees


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BitMillions on April 01, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/276xuge.jpg

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Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on April 05, 2013, 06:43:33 AM
One suggestion: How about paying out affiliate payments once it reaches 0.01? Creates quite a bit of small dust, and you're spending a lot in TX fees

Agreed TradeFortress, we are working into that... I have than in my TODO List, have no timeline yet, but it will definitely be done.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: willphase on April 08, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
fun game, I like the constant trickle of payouts during the whole day too... makes for a surprise when my phone vibrates with a win.

however, I do wish the house edge could be a bit lower - 8% is too high for me to play as much as I did on satoshidice.  I think 3-5% would be more reasonable for a game where the running costs are very low now the site is up, especially if you want to increase volume to the levels of satoshidice.

Just my 2c.

Will


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ljackstar on April 12, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
fun game, I like the constant trickle of payouts during the whole day too... makes for a surprise when my phone vibrates with a win.

however, I do wish the house edge could be a bit lower - 8% is too high for me to play as much as I did on satoshidice.  I think 3-5% would be more reasonable for a game where the running costs are very low now the site is up, especially if you want to increase volume to the levels of satoshidice.

Just my 2c.

Will

Part of that is just the nature of lottories, really large wins for a low price, but also a large house edge. I actually really like bitmillions compared to my regional lotteries because the cost is similar and the payouts are higher. For example the chance of winning anything on a well know Canadian lottery, lotto 6/49, is 1 in 32.8!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on April 25, 2013, 07:44:41 PM
I'm curious, how do you deal with orphan blocks? Do you consider it to be a valid block for your draw as well?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BitMillions on April 30, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
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Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on May 08, 2013, 06:40:48 PM
I'm curious, how do you deal with orphan blocks? Do you consider it to be a valid block for your draw as well?

Same as Bitcoin-QT does, when we receive a Block ( from Bitcoin-Qt ) we Twit, determine the winning numbers and process plays.

If for some reason there is a correction on the Blockchain, we remove the invalid block, the plays for the invalid block and proceed to re-process the new valid block.

That is the reason why we wait for 6 confirmations before send a payment.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: SgtSpike on May 08, 2013, 06:43:51 PM
Doesn't seem like many people are playing here anymore.  When it started, you'd see 8-16 draws per block, now, it seems sightings of even 1 draw per block are few and far between.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on May 08, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
I'm curious, how do you deal with orphan blocks? Do you consider it to be a valid block for your draw as well?

Same as Bitcoin-QT does, when we receive a Block ( from Bitcoin-Qt ) we Twit, determine the winning numbers and process plays.

If for some reason there is a correction on the Blockchain, we remove the invalid block, the plays for the invalid block and proceed to re-process the new valid block.

That is the reason why we wait for 6 confirmations before send a payment.

hmmmm, so, IMO, you really should put this as a warning in the help page. Let's say someone bought a ticket for one draw and wait until the draw occur too see the result and let's say the ticket won the jackpot for 4 hits, if the player don't have in mind that the block can become orphaned later, he probably will be disappointed and maybe angry by the fact he wasn't warned that the results can be reprocessed. And this can lead him not play here anymore.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on May 11, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
I'm curious, how do you deal with orphan blocks? Do you consider it to be a valid block for your draw as well?

Same as Bitcoin-QT does, when we receive a Block ( from Bitcoin-Qt ) we Twit, determine the winning numbers and process plays.

If for some reason there is a correction on the Blockchain, we remove the invalid block, the plays for the invalid block and proceed to re-process the new valid block.

That is the reason why we wait for 6 confirmations before send a payment.

hmmmm, so, IMO, you really should put this as a warning in the help page. Let's say someone bought a ticket for one draw and wait until the draw occur too see the result and let's say the ticket won the jackpot for 4 hits, if the player don't have in mind that the block can become orphaned later, he probably will be disappointed and maybe angry by the fact he wasn't warned that the results can be reprocessed. And this can lead him not play here anymore.

Good point, I though it was obvious that and invalid block won't count... but you are right, is a good idea to add it to the FAQ. Thanks!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Boelens on May 16, 2013, 07:05:20 PM
I've got an issue, I bought 10 tickets for 0.1BTC at once, entered the transaction ID to find my play :
3042440e44d71503ba62fef4e6bfd2c10709dbdd365d9c90f97532a7ff8e0f4f

And it just shows a blank page..
http://puu.sh/2UL8z.jpg

I've used this before and it worked then.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on May 29, 2013, 01:21:50 PM
I've got an issue, I bought 10 tickets for 0.1BTC at once, entered the transaction ID to find my play :
3042440e44d71503ba62fef4e6bfd2c10709dbdd365d9c90f97532a7ff8e0f4f

And it just shows a blank page..
http://puu.sh/2UL8z.jpg

I've used this before and it worked then.

Sorry for the delay in answer, I will check on that...


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Boelens on June 19, 2013, 07:42:35 PM
Hey, I just read the pool thingy, and it says "50% retain for future draws", does this mean that in example, I win 1400 BTC and only get 700BTC? That's really quite a big percentage.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on June 20, 2013, 12:57:51 AM
Hey, I just read the pool thingy, and it says "50% retain for future draws", does this mean that in example, I win 1400 BTC and only get 700BTC? That's really quite a big percentage.

yes, this is done this way as, if anyone won the biggest jackpot, no one else will be interested in playing it anymore. The only problem is that they are inducing you to think that you can win all the jackpot at once.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Endloop on June 20, 2013, 11:32:41 PM
I won .55 BTC but it hasn't been paid out. I have over six confirmations on the sent transaction too. This is the ticket: https://bitmillions.com/tickets/70f3793465caf8ca6a792ee6614cce1937124a2ac29a3e37de961c71e751a1a8:0

Thanks for any help.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Boelens on June 21, 2013, 08:51:23 AM
Hey, I just read the pool thingy, and it says "50% retain for future draws", does this mean that in example, I win 1400 BTC and only get 700BTC? That's really quite a big percentage.

yes, this is done this way as, if anyone won the biggest jackpot, no one else will be interested in playing it anymore. The only problem is that they are inducing you to think that you can win all the jackpot at once.

That's silly. Then 1,400BTC's isn't the jackpot, but 700BTC is the jackpot, this should be changed IMO.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on August 19, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
bump, just to give this original idea a little more visibility.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: sootedtho on August 20, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
depo .01 for 1 ticket, 8 confirms and it shows nothing under tickets. i thought i would get 1 ticket for .01 but maybe im wrong?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on August 20, 2013, 08:58:26 PM
depo .01 for 1 ticket, 8 confirms and it shows nothing under tickets. i thought i would get 1 ticket for .01 but maybe im wrong?

post here your transaction


By the way, you can also search for your transaction filling the search field on the top of the site


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: sgf909 on August 24, 2013, 05:21:29 PM
I'm still confused on how to redeem free plays....


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BRules on August 24, 2013, 05:54:38 PM
I'm still confused on how to redeem free plays....

I have already warned them about the confusion this term may lead. IMO, it's not a "free" play, but a "bonus" play.


From their FAQ:
For each Free Play you have and want to use, you have to play 0.10 BTC. For instance, if you want to use four Free Plays, you have to bet 0.40 BTC."

As you can see this is not as free as they advise.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: sgf909 on August 24, 2013, 06:38:12 PM
It would make more sense to just add an extra draw to the current ticket.



Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: mises on August 25, 2013, 03:53:28 AM
Looks like you put a lot of effort in the design. This is the first time I've seen a lottery-based btc gambling site. That highest jackpot looks awfully seductive at 1350 btc...that's like 150k. The coin sound is a nice touch it just caught me off guard haha. I played a couple of times earlier today. Didn't win anything but thanks for the games!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Boelens on August 25, 2013, 10:54:14 AM
Looks like you put a lot of effort in the design. This is the first time I've seen a lottery-based btc gambling site. That highest jackpot looks awfully seductive at 1350 btc...that's like 150k. The coin sound is a nice touch it just caught me off guard haha. I played a couple of times earlier today. Didn't win anything but thanks for the games!

The jackpot isnt' 1350 BTC, it's very misleading. Below is in text "50% of retain for future use", so it's "only" about 750 BTC.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BitTwist on September 20, 2013, 03:39:50 PM
looks like your Data Server has since nearly 10hrs problems! I got a 502 wrong gateway (or something like this) in the JS console


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BitTwist on September 20, 2013, 03:47:23 PM
just in this moment it begins to living again

from Draw # 258,978 to Draw # 259,039 it all on the same time, have you resetet your server and all the draws are happining now?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BitTwist on October 15, 2013, 11:08:06 AM
and again for at least 24hrs no numbers....  ???


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: midnightlightning on November 20, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
Scripting failure on my recent ticket: https://bitmillions.com/tickets/f8c3114c7f4be898a14be6b178a4c1274a1f61ef40c31351b02f2a215a2ee1b8:0

I submitted 0.04044400 BTC, with the intent that I wanted to play 4 times, and pick two of the four numbers for myself (04 and 44). However, the ticket was interpreted as choosing the numbers 00, 04, 04, 44. Yes, those four number pairs are in the bet submission, but that's now impossible for me to win the "match four", since it allowed two numbers to be identical (ticket draws skip identical pairs, for example here: https://bitmillions.com/draws/270663, (click the verify numbers barcode); 57 came up twice and was rejected)!

The system should either have figured I picked 00, 04, and 44 and either picked another number for me randomly, or rejected the preset numbers and picked four random numbers for me.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: CoinGeneral on November 21, 2013, 05:30:32 AM
0.01 BTC may have been chump changed back a few months ago, but this is freaking November now!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: jambola2 on November 21, 2013, 03:17:51 PM
I got a ticket , matched one number.
I got a refund , but what is the free ticket ?
How do I claim it ?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: dalson on November 30, 2013, 03:07:02 AM
https://bitmillions.com/tickets/0eddc77f4cebfb5a3fc61dfc4f8ef2d916fab83820f901465ff523d4d354f233:0

1 play, who was the lucky guy? :D


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: mnightwaffle on December 05, 2013, 11:58:12 PM
0.01 BTC may have been chump changed back a few months ago, but this is freaking November now!

I'd love to see a mini-bitmillions added. These guys still surprisingly have the market cornered as far as a functioning lottery goes, it is just the $10 ticket price keeps poor people away. When btc was $20 ea there were a ton of people playing.
.001 some time in the future please   :-[ ;D I'd much rather give you money then spend it on a local quik trip scratcher


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: mnightwaffle on December 28, 2013, 03:03:31 AM
Pretty positive site admins don't check this thread anymore... but I sent 0.01 and the site hasn't updated even with 11 confirmations on blockchain



edit: ahh. Last draw was 11 hours ago. I see,


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on December 30, 2013, 05:11:33 PM
BitMillions - Under Maintenance Notice

We discovered a bug on the system that was exploited by a player to steal the online pools.
As you described, the bug allowed the exploiter to create tickets with the same number twice, when that number was under 10, what allow the attacker to steal about 30 BTC from the site.

The bug is already fixed, but we are having problems getting it back online, since there are still some tickets from the attacker that are pending to be paid that need to be removed.

All valid tickets will be paid as soon as the system is put back online.
We are working in having the issue resolved... please apologies for the inconvenience.

Again, please don't panic, we are not a scam, we are just fixing a bug and once everything is resolved, we will be back on online and have all the pending tickets processed and paid.

Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions and again, please apologies for the inconvenience.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: ShaTwo on December 30, 2013, 05:22:02 PM
Pretty positive site admins don't check this thread anymore... but I sent 0.01 and the site hasn't updated even with 11 confirmations on blockchain
edit: ahh. Last draw was 11 hours ago. I see,

Hi mnightwaffle, you are right, I wasn't checking the forum latterly... please apologies for the delay in getting back.
I am working in having the system back online, please apologies for the inconvenience and rest assured that your tickets your be process and paid once this fix is done.

The site is been online for almost a year now, we paid over 1000 BTC in prices to several players, with almost 1400 BTC in prizes, we have the biggest price pool for any Bitcoin Lottery Site.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: mnightwaffle on December 31, 2013, 08:08:26 AM
I noticed that exploit some time ago - I thought it was just a new and confusing mechanic of some sort.

& no worries, I will continue to play :)


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Diabolicus on February 28, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
gone for good?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BlockChainLottery on March 05, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
gone for good?

Seems like it. Two people who I think are involved haven't been online for quite a while.
ShaTwo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76356)    Last Active:    January 31, 2014, 02:26:33 AM
BitMillions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77445)    Last Active:    December 29, 2013, 11:46:07
The website went black at the beginning of this year, supposedly because of a bug that was found.

BitMillions - Under Maintenance Notice

We discovered a bug on the system that was exploited by a player to steal the online pools.
As you described, the bug allowed the exploiter to create tickets with the same number twice, when that number was under 10, what allow the attacker to steal about 30 BTC from the site.

The bug is already fixed, but we are having problems getting it back online, since there are still some tickets from the attacker that are pending to be paid that need to be removed.

All valid tickets will be paid as soon as the system is put back online.
We are working in having the issue resolved... please apologies for the inconvenience.

Again, please don't panic, we are not a scam, we are just fixing a bug and once everything is resolved, we will be back on online and have all the pending tickets processed and paid.

Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions and again, please apologies for the inconvenience.

He says that it is going to be fixed and pending tickets are still valid.
I hope they didn't just disappeared with the large jackpot, during the time they operated it increased in value quite a bit.
I remember they had the jackpot in some kind of cold storage address, mentioned on the website.
We could check if that money is still there, but I can't find the address anymore. Does anybody know?

I liked playing on that website, it worked nicely and it looked awesome.
Although I haven't any pending tickets on there, I sure hope they come back some day.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: BlockChainLottery on March 05, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
I found the cold storage addresses for the different pools! :)

Pool                   Address                                                    Funds

Match #4 Pool     1JqdadgxgxrnbEnfvohxtaSNbHt52kVLtC           1,396.45182401 BTC
Match #3 Pool     1EnHPvDZfG9CzwK4Ai9ZpT6t7iJWPSCp77        0.62759521 BTC
Match #2 Pool     1ETya2BCpwgTuz88ubiLPf2kUvMpUymhBq        3.58844176 BTC

The funds are still there, maybe their website needs major revisions or something.
Would be nice to here something though.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Diabolicus on March 06, 2014, 08:20:59 AM
This was by far the best bitcoin lottery, would be a shame to see this disappear or turn out a scam.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: CoinReggie on March 05, 2015, 08:58:52 PM
It's been well over a year since BitMillions went offline. We loved BitMillions. There are hundreds of bitcoin gambling sites, but interestingly enough there's a lack of classic bitcoin lotteries, so we decided to create one.

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to introduce you ByteLotto.com - a classic bitcoin lottery (https://bytelotto.com).

  • It is a classic lottery game, 5 picks out of 59.
  • To ensure fairness, numbers are not drawn but based on Powerball  (http://www.powerball.com) numbers.
  • Two draws a week.
  • No fake jackpot promises. No prize rollover. Prizes are rolled down to the nearest matching combination and whole prize pool is paid out every draw!
  • No login / registration. Pick your lucky numbers and provide your bitcoin address.
  • 1 combination costs 0.001 BTC ($0.3)
  • Reward pool of the last draw was 0.363 BTC ($96)
  • House edge is ~10%
  • Affiliation plan for those that don't feel lucky

Suggestions, questions and criticism - welcome!


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Timelord2067 on May 22, 2016, 03:31:19 AM
I found the cold storage addresses for the different pools! :)

Pool                   Address                                                    Funds

Match #4 Pool     1JqdadgxgxrnbEnfvohxtaSNbHt52kVLtC           1,396.45182401 BTC
Match #3 Pool     1EnHPvDZfG9CzwK4Ai9ZpT6t7iJWPSCp77        0.62759521 BTC
Match #2 Pool     1ETya2BCpwgTuz88ubiLPf2kUvMpUymhBq        3.58844176 BTC

The funds are still there, maybe their website needs major revisions or something.
Would be nice to here something though.

The final resting place of the BTC 2281.40990028 involved in the BitMillions lotto are in the Wallet Addresses

  • https://blockchain.info/address/1JqdadgxgxrnbEnfvohxtaSNbHt52kVLtC Final Balance    1,396.45284401 BTC (as at today's date)
  • https://blockchain.info/address/1F5RtdjZaDSBHmR3nRaveHTMgLsShC1zRi Final Balance    880.59196933 BTC (as at today's date)
  • https://blockchain.info/address/1JLL7M7uADbkccbF2Y4Jp3k4hGuBYndMkb Final Balance    4.36508694 BTC (as at today's date)

1JqdadgxgxrnbEnfvohxtaSNbHt52kVLtC is part of Wallet [4802f93ac8] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/4802f93ac88c5881/addresses which has the following Wallet Addresses

Code:
1JqdadgxgxrnbEnfvohxtaSNbHt52kVLtC 1396.45284401 3463 350415

1F5RtdjZaDSBHmR3nRaveHTMgLsShC1zRi is part of Wallet [efeebe4497] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/efeebe4497df3f83/addresses which has the following Wallet Addresses

Code:
1F5RtdjZaDSBHmR3nRaveHTMgLsShC1zRi 880.59196933 5 406354

1JLL7M7uADbkccbF2Y4Jp3k4hGuBYndMkb is part of Wallet [755a09ee34] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/755a09ee34e7c228/addresses which has the Wallet Addresses

Code:
1JLL7M7uADbkccbF2Y4Jp3k4hGuBYndMkb 4.36508694 2 368130

On the other hand Wallet BitMillions.com uses 170 Wallet Addresses https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/BitMillions.com/addresses

and they are:

Code:
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1ETya2BCpwgTuz88ubiLPf2kUvMpUymhBq 0.00001002 1378 319139
1EnHPvDZfG9CzwK4Ai9ZpT6t7iJWPSCp77 0.00001001 3 319139
1HSDNZYfcevZBNCZjj4y5wyxzbc79a6y32 0.00001    9132 319139
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15vi1BDAYW7W7Px7DJGrXLengivhmpf8jb 0.          3 220851
1EcczMdxFtVfb9pi3irgVzbD8n5GNd2TB1 0.          3 220851
1Lfrs9XudopzasRCSfNx5Xc8zsJLV4bzVS 0.          3 220851
12JGrjBv8Rb7eePxAkCE26zwP3pVMMCxrU 0.          3 220796
12XTf7c1eYB2cnPxEAFyrMsTWE25sAJBNN 0.          3 220796
13KUNkZSYb6zSjgNmBaooZ4tK4nA9Q2pvf 0.          3 220796
13nhEdHCz39vD8uGjU4maNuikJtpF1UDbQ 0.          3 220796
14cnJDkjHe79ti8zavE1gVLWdGsH795fSy 0.          3 220796
1B3a9Mz9vHYeU2RGcbuyhdvvpyNh6JXEsM 0.          3 220796
1BWcMdeX6fka297vX8pZnT1weZTgY7YWS5 0.          3 220796
1DN2X4wteZjhMEutDcgEqMjHta9kxN83Wo 0.          3 220796
1NkwN1DKL4a2E7BoVeVuHSARPU6Zp3JS1x 0.          3 220796
1Ns2zaRifiY6FyBfkGKyWMsT1K3HtqPopV 0.          3 220796
1D2Ui3ZhyrGvcARWu2chhDZk9XJmh193VA 0.          2 264964
1LeJkHGyn21c5kWDdCoh214GaB8UB3h3QJ 0.          2 255284
1KpKg3zfZZaG58EMLdgp53UdXpoMKe2PYj 0.          2 248609
18fJQccZv33Bj682FxFgvv8gFDnS9byeb2 0.          2 240641
16a4YWVSTDuGCiUjvARsF2y51DRbATQx7y 0.          2 235217
14WPLc8hHoySUihpAytQCrbLHsVHEmsmzg 0.          2 221014
14Kon2ArxLCMVsUktqbbBjR6gm8YYnjkNW 0.          2 220796
181BmqH5GFSwmgT6c4yn1B1s5yZEFptNRA 0.          2 220796
194HLga897o5UyiWQ4a5934uJTrZ88rPsT 0.          2 220796
1AaeVHL4x7NQbEVRudbNq2JVx7k4QQDh6K 0.          2 220796
1CoWJXZ8PLm5z6pTw9W9HLhB3eGysiPxCA 0.          2 220796
1DNXXH62PYkwZBoRsb6esXH4wTXspTJDH3 0.          2 220796
1EmXh6wfci37FNcz6VEgM45CU7dE1cqS7g 0.          2 220796
1FzfZ28A5STL6wPpwGafbLx4BchjxmFgim 0.          2 220796
1L8D2X4RCxbxh1DYeT6Ztdj9pxzWtSn7mv 0.          2 220796
1LGdQAyGSjw34cjeYyJRikTVLcXSdTynCu 0.          2 220796
1MsgkM6WQ9TtTCW4znsW1xfCyegJFWXJ3S 0.          2 220796
1NG724VEQNGsJP3Z3Fr3viJMQ8n9kkGaiT 0.          2 220796
1PVo8UMQncnXuQNqeacZdR17569VUHbwVf 0.          2 220796
1DXAb8bhgifAaQNJN13KABg9qHJZxpwDWA 0.          1 310490
1QC9VuPAUSLUnQLjANyZrdXTKvFzMvZQ3F 0.          1 273324
15oWRTEQp2znbY3Mx5oB3iH7aSTBZtXZqh 0.          1 269098
1KCof4vzgfpe7GLCUCL1BYwu6cAW5djfPN 0.          1 264724
1CgoFLqhRWgL9h5LwCP8s45adzSMm8obSM 0.          1 264292
1D2HUryVgXg1GtRVy3aj9erzMAnN3523T7 0.          1 262084
1FUsNyxf4M25ZmmhRXkUcgbEhcT5Jje7WR 0.          1 247698
1Ha6Q5Qcpax9Cr7Fbcrya8zae3Bp21ZxPe 0.          1 242610
1M19hQ7cTWDb6QZgnBDMK2Aj32V2qwx7C7 0.          1 234306
1DJpwSbqNNx6AtaYvLwHSmD1hsYcQtUjUD 0.          1 230801
1H27frSwvP8M7vigoJMjBum66yhkcvQac7 0.          1 220858
1HjC9uByMENjXdSVUeDMiycmzNpuwsLaCT 0.          1 220858
1Bec6BaJgxRbtWguax6S7XwNEJoRjdJ496 0.          1 220851

although it is unlikely we'll see any of these being used again...

Further reading about 1F5RtdjZaDSBHmR3nRaveHTMgLsShC1zRi which also received funds from the same seed Wallet that BitMillions did can be viewed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021422.msg14925296#msg14925296


Title: Re: BitMillions.com - More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Now Play with ONLY ฿ 0.01 !!
Post by: Timelord2067 on May 22, 2016, 04:32:01 AM
Can you prove that?  ;) You know... Bitcoin and stuff.
You can check all the ticket he purchased on:
https://bitmillions.com/address/1BT4xWe5ATp37CwpxwnYViUDJq62nKbFvq

And Payment Transaction has just been sent:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d873bad7cd1a4b31f3dd634f23ce21913fade0d22abab70f09eddefd67b8381f

Congratulations to our first Lucky Winner! :)
I just want to know if he really is the 'owner' of that address.

(snip)

The four Wallet Addresses that received payments from that transaction are

Code:
1BT4xWe5ATp37CwpxwnYViUDJq62nKbFvq 207.83057862 BTC
1MPGDzR91uMdGanKvZVK4vHjHXGeKJNZo8 104.69889415 BTC
1nbTFZTFy8Wtbti3LhnLFZgd5YTBrXjaU (phraust ) 53.81408148 BTC
1ETya2BCpwgTuz88ubiLPf2kUvMpUymhBq (BitMillions.com - Pool 3 ) 0.03269915 BTC

The first two belong to mnightwaffle https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71414 and are part of  Wallet [00c015fe42] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00c015fe4275187d/addresses with Wallet Addresses

Code:
1MPGDzR91uMdGanKvZVK4vHjHXGeKJNZo8 0.01792249 2335 412577
1MJTpC3WT4KMH4R8cZ82QqC6qNgAkaZo3Y 0.00009213 192 398799
1M4Hk4s9GxEKpwWUV9id61pqofygHcvymw 0.00009118 30 398799
1BT4xWe5ATp37CwpxwnYViUDJq62nKbFvq 0.          449 399166
1DNZtVnTy8eFsErhDLv97ZGohftssdamP6 0.          91 223931
15821hucY37mVuMKBLgBJG7Q16rZGL9obA 0.          83 274634
1Mmk9RoVX6rJq7AEtmz1s1zHH9ij8ex8c9 0.          41 373073
1Q4BUCqqGQxcBWyj7jHfVdyS4LYtTtTZUG 0.          33 386608
17E4UE2mzb2PEkWtxjAkfgPBaqRsydLsss 0.          11 374396
13EpFWnCDxSywXmNAtynUht6SZpestLi9q 0.          11 225064
1JgUYAuHJpGozxRFHxe9Sva95xeaANEC59 0.          7 412273
1GAC8Xa8VpBoBMBBVfF9uLRWmUgN381wd7 0.          4 386608
1KkvMguUYLKAyxoJY5tc7s4N1SoNbp3y4y 0.          4 272542
1Pb2oCgN6zF61DnxU7WtgxzbK2RvjaFk9k 0.          3 386608
1DH2YaEdKTbcwGen7HN8QfFxyXWnkdxLfG 0.          3 223931
1DaaTLkQmZFuzPQUPxVx1sRGxCc7DJhL7H 0.          2 386621
1DFxJYZSoafNpZ2cwTLr9bDneT2hGsru7P 0.          2 386608
1MkoxDfpKY8z5pdLvN8u3m9unAHS7qzKf1 0.          1 219347

these two posts

^^^^

HA, that was me again - I spent my last $3 last night to wake up with $591.26 in my account. While I was logging in I was thinking what if by some miracle I won on that play - hilarious outcome 8) Thanks.

207BTC.
Thanks. Again.  ???   :D  ::)


cross verify mnightwaffle made the wagers while the last of three winners was
Code:
1nbTFZTFy8Wtbti3LhnLFZgd5YTBrXjaU
which is part of Wallet [0c984de27f] with Wallet Addresses

Code:
1J8sk74votoRpUZ1rhzTJLGqrox4x45KjG 0.02065574 98 404882
13BsuruUNEdB9f7vvRkXEdSDyUQ7ojUpQk 0.00129875 11 404882
1nbTFZTFy8Wtbti3LhnLFZgd5YTBrXjaU 0.          1267 404882
1NFXjG4QmsWQEjBAw467op6jAMcBuJA2jS 0.          11 253764
19x6UE2fLQZnUHbcjTHV6N6z26p3T4Jscp 0.          4 308677
18LSrqYfUwt4q52CvSWXkSqNiDMGDADAao 0.          3 186246
1DuFHLPrjRxUMKZC6ZEemF4xXghKxxF47i 0.          2 253312
1Mf9QQoDfJyEw3Y2LDo29HkV6W3SboWGRZ 0.          2 183163
12kcijWQtuyc1Hr2r22YvKAPayup88cg44 0.          1 267729
178Cqwjrxve3gnE9gYpcYHxvSgvuPmktvZ 0.          1 260546

Only 1J8sk74votoRpUZ1rhzTJLGqrox4x45KjG turns up here on BCT in these two threads

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320578.0 http://archive.is/Gkudh
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251423.0 http://archive.is/q7LUR

but there's no mention of the owner's name.

So, it would seem that the winners were indeed grinners

(not counting the First First winner...)

How does one know if they won or not ?

You can check your ticket using your address. Enter your address at the top of the page and automatically directs you to a page where you can track the results of all your tickets, as well as see how many games you won, the payments made and links to previous plays.

First lucky winner
http://bitmillions.com/tickets/65e49ac94948046ab39032c6d9101678278acd4edb58df57d0cfbe7be269405f:0

Holy shit! That was me haha! :) sweet! I thought I had read the ticket wrong thank you! Planning on doing this more!  DO NOT USE THIS WEBSITE!

Wallet [290d79546d]

Code:
1H6s9kfj3xb8a8P2ZKA1XsQ4UAdfPjiYpk 0.          2 219142
129F85uuhrHePmFWmcPh8evb1iPFjjt4Sx 0.          1 219142
1JWANzDXqBuhRbXcDWRetuCqKJtzsNEf3Z 0.          1 219130

received a payment here

https://blockchain.info/tx/48b4e2746886b11fcef25c78ea162db611ccd86d493470727cbc418f12668e32

(as do Wallet Addresses

Code:
1HsCdY4sEYfoCY2WpEJjPgLoFyJcCDUYHH 0.08403361 BTC
18oieaHw6UgyBVLvv8UCLGYhQct1kp6A4 0.10196889 BTC
1LovGq8jN9Fe9B2699gaY9TYqV6hvDdKPB 0.01287879 BTC
1H6s9kfj3xb8a8P2ZKA1XsQ4UAdfPjiYpk 8.39440447 BTC
1EnHPvDZfG9CzwK4Ai9ZpT6t7iJWPSCp77 (BitMillions.com - Pool 2 ) 3.65777507 BTC
1ETya2BCpwgTuz88ubiLPf2kUvMpUymhBq (BitMillions.com - Pool 3 ) 0.07727272 BTC
1JqdadgxgxrnbEnfvohxtaSNbHt52kVLtC (BitMillions.com - Pool 4 ) 0.05151514 BTC
1L1RQ9LnFJE4qkDWaGFRPYc3VmpAqKTEVw 14.30623892 BTC

)

Wallet [5b90f80318]

Code:
1LovGq8jN9Fe9B2699gaY9TYqV6hvDdKPB 0.02065251 3462 313586
18oieaHw6UgyBVLvv8UCLGYhQct1kp6A4 0.          3460 313572
1HsCdY4sEYfoCY2WpEJjPgLoFyJcCDUYHH 0.          29 228997
1LAZSSCwfiayBDyZidzppd69z32pJ1b7Uc 0.          6 276758
1HzsPcfAJhYe3m38tg59amd7FqjZBRcquh 0.          1 276758

So, if anything it shows the punters are using multiple Wallet Addresses to gamble with.


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Timelord2067 on May 22, 2016, 04:38:59 AM
Missed this just before - 1H6s9kfj3xb8a8P2ZKA1XsQ4UAdfPjiYpk really is owned by bbit

bbits address: http://blockchain.info/address/1H6s9kfj3xb8a8P2ZKA1XsQ4UAdfPjiYpk

Congrats :)

Thanks man! just played again and won haha .. grant it not as big but 11 more plays still to go ! wish me luck! If I win it again I'll give it out here :P
My wallet always has room! :D


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: danmartin on December 31, 2017, 12:44:24 AM
What happened to this wonderful website?
I loved it so much in the past.
Any news?


Title: Re: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01!
Post by: Coins4Days on December 31, 2017, 05:02:02 AM
What happened to this wonderful website?
I loved it so much in the past.
Any news?

Considering this thread is extremely old, it probably crashed and burned. Look at the posts above ours, it seems like the site vanished with the funds. All good things tend to come to an end  :-\