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Real or Scam?


http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/rhino-horn-crisis-and-the-darknet

Wow that's awful :(

There are also counterfeit rhino horns on the black market! Let's hope he is just trying to scam someone.

Year hopefully. That being real would really be terrible.

Hopefully he just sends them ground up fingernail clippings... Doubt they'd be able to tell the difference.

+1, never thought I would say this phrase but I hope he is scamming or selling fake stuff !

But they can: http://www.google.dk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanparks.org%2Fparks%2Fkruger%2Fconservation%2Fscientific%2Fnoticeboard%2Fscience_network_meeting_2010%2FPresentations%2FHarperC.pdf&ei=eMwCUdDUHpCSswbXrIHoAQ&usg=AFQjCNFqjxXMNniNgTU23XbB1Ed2f1IMTg&sig2=CRcoLQgs8R3RCe5Fwr2URg&bvm=bv.41524429,d.Yms (http://www.google.dk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanparks.org%2Fparks%2Fkruger%2Fconservation%2Fscientific%2Fnoticeboard%2Fscience_network_meeting_2010%2FPresentations%2FHarperC.pdf&ei=eMwCUdDUHpCSswbXrIHoAQ&usg=AFQjCNFqjxXMNniNgTU23XbB1Ed2f1IMTg&sig2=CRcoLQgs8R3RCe5Fwr2URg&bvm=bv.41524429,d.Yms)

Even which family of rhinos it was taken from, which sanctuary it was poached in.

Fuck poachers and their buyers in every orifice they have with poison razors.

Rhino's are like "real life" unicorns, and these poachers are like real life scum bags!

I was actually thinking about this a little while back.
Selling fake rhino horns and the likes is an animal-friendly thing to do.
If you flood the market with fake, price should drop for the real stuff too, limiting incentives for poachers.

Maybe it's time to encouraging the WWF to start accepting bitcoin donations?

Wait, could that be where the ASIC unicorn blood is coming from?

I dunno... Hulk Hogan is getting a little long in the tooth, not really sure how much help he'd be  ;D

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/rhino-horn-crisis-and-the-darknet (http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/rhino-horn-crisis-and-the-darknet)

There is some hope, with the use of drones to hunt the poachers down.

Until the poachers get their own drones.

Weapons only give temporary hope that requires rapidly expanding sums of money to reacquire once lost.

Could we get an escrow provider on board to give us our coins back, pull together and try to bust this guy?

Let him ship directly to a police station or so?

I can see the news:



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I know, but you can daydream a little.

This is a scam, no way in hell a poacher or someone with their hands on a rhino horn/horn powder would sell on the darknet.

It's like buying red rock opium. You're an idiot if you did.

I'm not familiar with either case, so enlighten me please.  Why not?

Resolving the Tragedy of the Commons by Creating Private Property Rights in Wildlife
http://cei.org/studies-other-studies/resolving-tragedy-commons-creating-private-property-rights-wildlife

The market for rhino horns is for the most part in Asia, although yes, there are people all over the world with enough money to buy it because it is "exotic", and because they want it, then again, what is claimed to be sold on the deepweb is the powder itself.

In China the horn is believed to be an aphrodisiac but mostly as a cure for convulsions and headaches. And acording to this link in the vietnamese use it as a drug to either party or get better after a night of boozing (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/south-africa/120823/rhino-horn-party-drug-vietnam-south-africa-poaching).

And here we see the horn is used to carve anything from knives, to other "medicinal" uses: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/rhinoceros/rhino-horn-use-fact-vs-fiction/1178/


As for red rock opium, it's claimed to be "real" opium, it is in fact, and incense that is being sold in most cases.


There's no getting high from a rhino horn, theres barely anything from it that could be used as actual medicine it's made from the same substance your nails are made from, so, cut your nails, shave them to a powder and sniff to see if you'll get high and get back to me.

is it really awful? first of all, most probably what people here said, f.a.k.e. second, these particular rhinos, even if it's real, are already dead long ago. and third, if not for bitcoins, they would have been traded for cash (with more precautions but still).

so I say not awful, we should be prepared, being proponents of pseudo-anonymous internet cash, to witness much worse cases of it being used for illegal activity. much much worse than some dead rhino parts.

I don't think it's safe to just assume it's fake. And rhino horn is more often taken from living rhinos by killing them than just rhino corpses, so someone trading these should feel obliged to provide solid proof he is not connected to such things.

With an approach of "wrong, but not so bad", things become muddy very quickly. A line has to be drawn somewhere. I personally like the approach to draw such a line very clearly, tolerate everything up to it and rigorously fight anything behind it. People deal drugs on a simple open market? Whatever. Employ poor children in their factory? Sounds bad, but I don't know whether they'd be off worse otherwise. But people who break into a national park to kill the beings in it for profit? Those should be stopped, by whatever means necessary. I would recommend a method that ascertains the "loot" is destroyed, so that nobody wins in this game. A drone strike on their vehicles would fulfill these criteria; short-term confinement would not, unless one is certain to catch the offenders in virtually all cases. (The profit margin is just too large. People would continue doing it even with the risk of a little prison time.)

Admittedly, someone "just" trading is not technically proven to be involved. It could be horn from a rhino that died of natural causes or whatever, even if that's very unlikely. I'd still avoid such people -- and anyone who deals with them -- like the plague, and demand more information on WTF is going on.

This. I would farm so many rhinos there would be more of them than cows.

Absolutely repulsive.

I'm going to show black rhinos how to hire a hit man on BMR!  >:(

It's somewhat counterintuitive, but Texas is actually a better home for endangered species than Africa. Plus, it doesn't costs the state a dime. Unlike Africa that can't afford to protect their "sanctuaries." Unfortunately, the "environmentalists" would rather see species go extinct than allow them to be bred and hunted.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57448441/can-hunting-endangered-animals-save-the-species/