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Hi,

secondstrade.com - scam

PROOF:
I have placed bets 5seconds at one time UP and DOWN (2016-03-09 03:05:27).

I lose UP (2016-03-09 03:05:27)  and DOWN(2016-03-09 03:05:27).

if i lose UP, then i will DOWN but two bets lose!!!

SCAM! DON'T use it shit servise!

proof: 2016-03-09 03:05:27
https://blockchain.info/tx/6fa9a217d7563df51b2b28d8580b35a3ec4f2c7307e51b2203f8a2fac2f87f29

How do you place a wager on  two sides use the same time? I mean when deposits go up and down at least you need in a few seconds different, as far as I know the system Secoundtrade  you have to deposit Up then deposit down of course need a few seconds difference can not simultaneously. unless you can explain how you bet simultaneously on different sides (Up and Down)

he sent to bot UP and DOWN in a single transaction, check the transaction he provided and you will know

@OP PM secondstrade about this so he can answer what happened to your bets

1 transaction is available only one bitcoin address.
we have  published  about that on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html.
refer to the number 2.
thank you.

Which one will be honored if this kind of case happens? or both deposits will not qualify.
I hope this was published in your thread in this forum as most players or users of your site don't check those announcements and rely most on what is published here.

There have been numerous accusation against their site and majority of them had the same "Time" complaints but people still try it anyway so there is no need for them to consider anything said here.

I think they disqualified both according to OP as none of his bets won.

If i send 2 transactions from 2 bitcoin address at one time?

i think not fair it..

What can you say about it?

OH yes he uses Bot I just checked it indeed all the deposit or bet made simultaneously
It seems secoundtartrade also already clarified this issue so who's to blame  :-\

http://imgur.com/FCthkMO
http://imgur.com/DBNu9wW

I think need refund money in this case..
2 bets lose - not fair.
refund btc to players!

is not BOT.
it is new wallet ;D
i try too..
interest idea.
thanks :)

I think if deposits will be sent using 2 different address, there will be a millisecond difference between the 2.
1 of the 2 deposit will confirm first than the other.
So results will be different, unlike sending 2 deposits coming from just 1 address.

It sounds like a joke for me, OP seems to be frustrated because he has been declined on secondstrade's sign campaign. He said that he play on secondstrade everyday and he seems pretend to not knowing the rules then make a scam accusation against the site.

Look at his signature, he has been declined on nakedbitcoin sign campaign some time ago then make a bad words of nakedbitcoin on his signature. Just like a kid who just lost his candies  ;D

need generate two payment at one time.
and milliseconds will be not difference

yes, but he provided proof!
please check transaction..
one time - 2 payment.
really proff :)

Hi,

it's no joke!
see my proof.
i scammed..
or need refund my money.

you say that you play on secondstrade everyday, but you dont know about rule on secondstrade
i know you scammed, but are you paying attention into the rule? and why the bet can go into the same time without interlude ?

because i generated 2 payment at one time..
i know how do it.
is not scam.

Banned from yobit too..


I wonder, what's the point of sending 2 payment and place 2 different bets at the same time?

Maybe for win win situation? If you send 1 bid to 5secs up and 220% of win and second to oddeven down with 198%.

do you have brain??
think....

it's easy, for win only!

Ok so you deposit 0.0005BTC on Up and you deposit 0.0005BTC on Down, that means your capital is 0.001BTC
You are expecting a win on either of the 2 bets so you lost 0.0005BTC and how much will be returned to you by secondstrade for winning with 0.0005BTC deposit? Are they going to return 0.012BTC?  ::)
I'm not good in math but please help me out how can you profit from this  ;D

UP 0.0005, DOWN 0.0005
if UP WIN - revieve 0.0011..

If this will be not scam, can use big bet..
and big profit ;)

..and you think the site owners did not think about that loop hole that people will not take advantage of it to profit? Are you even aware of such rules that you cant place a bet or deposit on both up and down at the same time using same address? Anyway good luck to your dispute

Don't worry, he will probably be ashamed of himself ;D
Note this, People aren't stupid, don't try to take advantages of loopholes because chances are they are already patched ::)
Looks like he already make secondstrade scam accusation on his local topic, let's see where this comedy is going :P
He will probably spam the forum is he feels to :P

loool, you are so mad, because he didnot let you join to his signature campaign. its very shame to retaliating in  such way

Are you crazy maddy loser?
I placed bet at every day..
And find scam now.
See proof

hahaha, what a funny kid you are. thousands of people are playing on cenondstrade.com and if you make mistake and you didnot receive payment, it didnot means that its scam, but you are crying like little kid: "its scam, scaaaaam".

you must first find out what happens and stop writing such a boolshits 

You stupid.. See proof and screenshot.

If bet placed at one time.. Result is ONE, not diffirent.
Here result up-lose, down-lose.. Is piece of shit! Not fair!
Teach math child

I've alread started a thread about them but it seems his getting away with his scam BECAUSE MOST members here are very stupid ... No negative trust yet to that bastard  >:(

Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :


I used my site to send two bets at the same time automatically every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :


Proof : http://s11.postimg.org/gnr9mwxhv/Capture.png



All my bets included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).


If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.

If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.

Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH  - Lost more than 1 btc in total.


EDIT:HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF: http://s11.postimg.org/p5sszejer/prove.png



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  >:(

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com even if there was a 2/3 seconds between every bet !!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money.

EDIT: The owner replied with a mind blowing answer that proves his game is rigged :




As you can see above he said clearly : "if you send  two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. "

AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay (Check the txs above) but it was recieved at the same second!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!


Note: The owner is totaly ignoring me and gone offline with no explanation or refund : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.1140

Hi friend!
You right.
It is very big scam!

Secondstrade dont want refund my money!

OMG, is really scam!
peoples dont play in this game, if you dont want lose all your money.

need open sig campaign - ***secondstrade.com - SCAM***
good luck,
friends.

bullshit is your post!
I King of BET. and I know where scam!
I see it f***ing scam.
You need see all posts and understand that he right

There are many others who complained very similar problems with their site and they too were retaliating for signature payments?

You could at least know the correct name before shilling ? or you are afraid to cause it would be a lie ? and also the number of people involved doesn't makes anything scammy or not scammy.

There are many scams and that is not good. You must be careful and be safe. Bitcoin is becoming more used.
And than there will be also more scams and that is not good. But yeah there are that kind of people.

I read this problem before from someone here in our forum the same as your issue that the problem is even he sent delay 1 second for every transaction they got the same time... and i think this is not a provably fair.. this is not a scam we can call it fraud..

do you refund btc topic starter? aaaa...
your game not fair!
I not recommended to play this f*****g game :o

secondstrade is not a scam.

really?

i see proof that scam here.
open your eyes friend.