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Continue the trend of the letter writing campaign to the EFF, which hacker/geek charity do you guys want to target next?

I guess we could use the EFF as an example charity that accepted bitcoins.

In Europe, CCC is one of the most influential:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club

They accept donations via the Wau Holland Stiftung.

http://www.wauland.de/english.html


Any German speakers here willing to help out?

I will help.
and I need your help, too.

I don't have any it expertise, so you can send me what I should translate and I will do it .

How about the Free Software Foundation?

Oh I'd love to get the CCC on board with this :-)
I'm German so I could help out, but my formal german got a bit rusty and mixed with italian (long story don't ask  ::) )

So there are at least two German nationals just on this tread alone using the English section.  Why not a German section?  If there are two Germans with good enough English skills to manage interested in Bitcoins, surely there are more who are not so skilled in English.  Also, have either of you guys seen www.flinc.org or www.flinc.mobi?  I know it's not particularly related, but I've already brought up Bitcoin with these guys, and have never received any kind of reply on the idea.  I could really use this Flinc system, since I don't own a car of my own.

hmm flinc sounds interesting.

well, I guess if we make a German section, we need some German speaking moderators.

oh and yeah, by the way, I'm one of those evil evil Germans ;P and I know we're at least three (^_-)

We should contact a chinese blogger and see if they will accept bitcoin. http://blog.donews.com/keso/   (http://blog.donews.com/keso/) Keso is one of the most prominent tech bloggers in china. He recently had his twitter account blocked-


http://cnreviews.com/people/bloggers/keso-suspended-twitter_20090829.html

He is also outspoken on chinese censorship. Thoughts?

While interesting, he is only one individual. The Chaos Computer Club is composed of many more individuals and we have German speakers on hand who can help us. Convincing such large organizations will allow us to convince more hacker charities.

Still, if there are Chinese speaker, than he could contribute his spare resources to convince individuals like these. A cross-pollination and cultural exchange between the east and west would be beneficial.

I never said anything about evil Germans.  That would imply that I was European.

Im sure there are plenty of chinese hacker groups!

Make a German topic here:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=11.0

And I don't think the other forums have moderators (are Germans in such need for moderators? De they behave so badly?).

How about Freenet?

http://freenetproject.org/

The topic of accepting freenet donations was brought up on one of the Freenet message boards (hosted on Freenet):

Someone asked if it was possible to donate to Freenet development via bitcoins. The response from a freenet developer was that 'putting it on the website would probably be pointless; nobody EVER uses anything but paypal'. However they did say they were willing to accept bitcoin donations for the project privately if they were for more than the equivalent of $100 US (presumably to reduce transaction fees when converting). If they knew there was interest in donating from bitcoin users they might be more receptive to making an option publicly available.

Because it is the only option?
And people who want to donate differently wouldn't bother the hassle.

done!
and no, I don't think Germans are so difficult that we need official moderators. I will give it a look frequently and if there are some wierd things I will let you know to intervene if necessary.

Waht could happen for sure is that some folks start writing about soccer and predict that Germany wins the next WorldCup (me included) :-)

Schlaaaaaaaaaaand!

I just talked to echelon from the i2p network about accepting donations in bitcoins.
He was interested and I hope that he will finally agree.
If you don't know what I2P is about..
"I2P is an anonymizing network, offering a simple layer that identity-sensitive applications can use to securely communicate. All data is wrapped with several layers of encryption, and the network is both distributed and dynamic, with no trusted parties."
The big advantage of I2P versus the freenet-project is the higher speed - and I2P comes with an inbuilt torrent tracker, and there
is the possibility to install multiple plug-ins. The i2p-network is more or less in the same state as bitcoin - the concept is good, but
there is definitely a need to get more people involved.

You can find the I2P project here:
http://www.i2p2.de

The chicken and the egg problem.

I heard octopus Paul is retired, you're already looking for a replacement? Did you try Knut already? ;)

I think the Chaos Computer Club will be the next target in the hacker unity behind bitcoin letter writing campaign.

CCC approval is definitely a must-have.

Knut is a great idea, maybe he can eat fish covered in dressings depending on the other team's flags

Tie up all the smaller guys first like the FSF and CCC, then we can convince Wikimedia foundation to join the bandwagon.

I mean, say we want to convince a certain charity to accept bitcoins.

We start collecting donations inside our community, for instance using someone's reputation on this forum (we have to chose someone with huge reputation since we need to trust that this guy will actually use the money for the donation).

Once we collect a fairly huge amount, we convert it into national currency, make the donation, and add the following remark :  "this money was raised using bitcoins.  Please consider using it."

Of course, the tough part is to find someone who will collect bitcoins.  We need someone with a huge reputation.  Maybe Satoshi ?

Concerning the choice of the organisation, I suggest I2P or Freenet, for they are imo the most likely to accept using bitcoins.

Don't you remember? We have done all that with the EFF.

I didn't know.

I am currently doing this for freedomainradio. :)

Maybe a bitcoin related site?

A bitcoin related site doesn't promote Bitcoin unless the site generate publicity for bitcoin.