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Title: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 02, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
It's been suggested by a lot of members, that I offer my collection agency services to this board. I've decided to give it a try. My agency is Neal & Associates, LP in MA & NH. Although we service other states and countries. My standard is 30% contingency on whatever I collect. However if the balance is $300 or under, it's 50%. I don't accept balances less than $100.

Basically, a written contract is best, but I understand a lot of people don't have that (although you should), so as long as the agreement is clearly defined between both parties (doesn't matter the age), I'll take the case. There's no charge to you, however if you get paid directly, then you would need to pay us our contingency %, within 3 days.

The way I work is a 1 chance basis... If you get paid and don't pay us, then I never work with you again. If you lie about what the other person owes or any case details, I drop the case and never work with you again. Last thing, I don't work with people that I only have a user name on. If you're too secretive about giving me you real identity, then don't both contacting me. Other than that, I look forward to working with you.

I'm sure there's more I can put, but if you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Eric


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: rickylford on February 02, 2013, 05:38:22 AM
Collection agencies are pure scum of the earth. Period.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: wrend on February 02, 2013, 05:45:21 AM
Hi,

Have you had successful collection of debt from Pirate@40?
Have you successfully collected Bitcoin debt from/for anyone on this forum?


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 02, 2013, 06:46:51 AM
Collection agencies are pure scum of the earth. Period.

I could write a whole page on why your wrong, but I'm not going to. Your opinion adds nothing to this post, nor do I care. Most collection agencies are scum, but not all. I run a small, but great staff and in 3 years running, we have very few complaints (my competitors ALL have over 30, some much more) and a great BBB rating for a collection agency (A-) and we do our job well. "Scum of the Earth??" How about the people that scam and steal intentionally with no intent of paying their bills? Just a thought.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 02, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
Hi,

Have you had successful collection of debt from Pirate@40?
Have you successfully collected Bitcoin debt from/for anyone on this forum?

I've chosen not to take the case. I have attorneys in various states, but not where he lives. And he is a professional debtor (judging by his credit and reputation). The only way you can get someone like that, is through a judgment, then an SP hearing, then a writ of exon, etc.  Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to go after him.

As for collections, we have a great track record, but this is my first time exploring the bitcoin market for my agency.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: jwzguy on February 02, 2013, 06:57:21 AM
Glad to have you here. We seem to have a lot of potential clients that need your services badly.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: SlickTheNick on February 02, 2013, 07:32:42 AM
How exactly would you even be able to collect BTC from someone? Unless you have their full identity, I really don't see how it is possible for you to accomplish anything.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: John (John K.) on February 02, 2013, 07:36:57 AM
How exactly would you even be able to collect BTC from someone? Unless you have their full identity, I really don't see how it is possible for you to accomplish anything.
See his other thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.0


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 02, 2013, 08:19:41 AM
How exactly would you even be able to collect BTC from someone? Unless you have their full identity, I really don't see how it is possible for you to accomplish anything.
See his other thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.0

Exactly. Thank you. Plus, would you loan btc to someone that you only had a username on?? I'm very good at what I do, but every agency out there, has at least some skiptracing skills and tools.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: Transisto on February 04, 2013, 09:26:16 PM
There's a real need for such service in the bitcoin world, Best of luck.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: zebedee on March 18, 2013, 10:58:21 PM
Not had much luck with this guy.  Form-filling and unresponsive.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 07:19:33 PM
Not had much luck with this guy.  Form-filling and unresponsive.

Well of course there's form filling. I can't take on a case without a client agreement. And I did respond to you. Some cases are closed and paid right away, other cases take significant more time.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 07:29:16 PM
you can see my experience with this service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.msg1668909#msg1668909

not very happy, and he refused to give me a refund, even failing to provide the service and not telling me anything until now.

 >:(


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 07:40:45 PM
very revealing information about this guy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144665.msg1625566#msg1625566

seems like a scammer to me.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 07:42:52 PM
you can see my experience with this service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.msg1668909#msg1668909

not very happy, and he refused to give me a refund, even failing to provide the service and not telling me anything until now.

 >:(

Wow, you just feel the need to post this everywhere don't you? A reply to here, a post and reply on my forum, messages on my forum and here too, etc.

I already you today and over a week ago. I CANNOT FIND EVERYONE! NOT PERFECT.

With the information you provided, I can't find who you are looking for, sorry, but I can't. I don't know what else to say.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
very revealing information about this guy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144665.msg1625566#msg1625566

seems like a scammer to me.

Now you're being an asshole. How clear do I have to make myself for you to comprehend this simple fact that I told you a while back.

WITH THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, I CAN'T FIND THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I have a lot of other happy customers, but I can't find everyone I try to find. That doesn't make me a scammer. Maybe just human... but not a scammer.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:00:26 PM
very revealing information about this guy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144665.msg1625566#msg1625566

seems like a scammer to me.

Now you're being an asshole. How clear do I have to make myself for you to comprehend this simple fact that I told you a while back.

WITH THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, I CAN'T FIND THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I have a lot of other happy customers, but I can't find everyone I try to find. That doesn't make me a scammer. Maybe just human... but not a scammer.

You are lying.  you ever told me you couldn't find the guy, until today.

And you know what you do when that happens?  You REFUND THE MONEY I PAID YOU TO DO THE JOB

Taking someone's money and then not providing the service and/or refund DOES make you a scammer.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 24, 2013, 08:28:05 PM
very revealing information about this guy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144665.msg1625566#msg1625566

seems like a scammer to me.

Now you're being an asshole. How clear do I have to make myself for you to comprehend this simple fact that I told you a while back.

WITH THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, I CAN'T FIND THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I have a lot of other happy customers, but I can't find everyone I try to find. That doesn't make me a scammer. Maybe just human... but not a scammer.

You are lying.  you ever told me you couldn't find the guy, until today.

And you know what you do when that happens?  You REFUND THE MONEY I PAID YOU TO DO THE JOB

Taking someone's money and then not providing the service and/or refund DOES make you a scammer.
He did provide the service.  He put in the work to find the guy that you were looking for.  Unfortunately, he didn't find who you were looking for.  However: He _DID_ do the work, and everything he was required too.

On another note, he went above and beyond what he had to do.  He even offered you another trace for FREE (see other thread). 


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
He did provide the service.  He put in the work to find the guy that you were looking for.  Unfortunately, he didn't find who you were looking for.  However: He _DID_ do the work, and everything he was required too.

On another note, he went above and beyond what he had to do.  He even offered you another trace for FREE (see other thread). 
That's BS.  He said today he didn't have enough info to do the search.  So no, he didn't do the work.  He didn't deliver the service.

And, really, how do you know that he did the work?  Where is the evidence of that?

His requirement was to deliver information on a person.

It is not above and beyond to offer a free one, what good is that?  And anyway, that is on his website as part of the deal.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 08:47:08 PM
Thanks "danieldaniel". This guy is lying about me not answering him. I did answer him more than once. I stayed in contact with him for a while and on the second time I asked (took me two tries) about more information on his skip, he finally replied and told me that he didn't have any more info. I can work magic, but not perform the impossible. His membership cost, didn't even cover the money I put into trying to find this guy with very limited details.

To make matter worse, the information he did provide, was false. Now, I'm not blaming him for that, cause he couldn't have known. But I only got a very limited description of the skip and some of the information was false. Therefor I had to deal with a lot of misdirection, before I could even perform the skip. I worked really hard for this guy (like I did for a lot of people on this forum) and unfortunately with this case, my work didn't pan out.

"Valcreations" keep on whining and talking shit, I'm done replying to you. The people on this board that I have worked for, seem to be very happy with my service. Sorry you're not, but at this point (after you posted lies and shit on my forum too), I really don't care any more about defending myself to you.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 09:02:10 PM
I did answer him more than once. I stayed in contact with him for a while and on the second time I asked (took me two tries) about more information on his skip, he finally replied and told me that he didn't have any more info.

That is a bold-faced lie.  You show me where you "stayed in contact" with me. Post the PMs on here.

I sent you the info multiple times and replied to both of your responses (which were both on or before March 10, 2013).  You had 2 weeks to tell me that the info was not enough to find someone.  You had plenty of time to let me know what was going on.

I haven't heard from you since March 10, 2013, which I posted on the other thread.

Now, if you lie about such a trivial little thing like that, how are we supposed to believe you on the big stuff?


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
I did answer him more than once. I stayed in contact with him for a while and on the second time I asked (took me two tries) about more information on his skip, he finally replied and told me that he didn't have any more info.

That is a bold-faced lie.  You show me where you "stayed in contact" with me. Post the PMs on here.

I sent you the info multiple times and replied to both of your responses (which were both on or before March 10, 2013).  You had 2 weeks to tell me that the info was not enough to find someone.  You had plenty of time to let me know what was going on.

I haven't heard from you since March 10, 2013, which I posted on the other thread.

Now, if you lie about such a trivial little thing like that, how are we supposed to believe you on the big stuff?


No its not a lie and I don't care if you believe it or not. Have you noticed all the positive review I've received? It's strange how you're the only one claiming that I'm such a fraud with my service.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 09:13:46 PM
No its not a lie and I don't care if you believe it or not.
I'm calling you out right now.  Let's see the evidence.  Let's see the contacts.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 12:29:33 AM
Fine. If you want me to publicize everything here, I will. Being a professional, I don't publicize my clients requests, but if that's what you want... But even when I do, that's not going to stop you from complaining and putting me down. But, I will play ball with you.  I'm not going to do it right now though as I'm running a dialer at work. I'll get to it shortly.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 12:45:46 AM
Fine. If you want me to publicize everything here, I will. Being a professional, I don't publicize my clients requests, but if that's what you want... But even when I do, that's not going to stop you from complaining and putting me down. But, I will play ball with you.  I'm not going to do it right now though as I'm running a dialer at work. I'll get to it shortly.
I want you to show me where you contacted me beyond the 10th of March (which was the date of your last communication).  That's all we need.  If you don't have it, don't bother posting.


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 01:44:03 AM
Fine. If you want me to publicize everything here, I will. Being a professional, I don't publicize my clients requests, but if that's what you want... But even when I do, that's not going to stop you from complaining and putting me down. But, I will play ball with you.  I'm not going to do it right now though as I'm running a dialer at work. I'll get to it shortly.
I want you to show me where you contacted me beyond the 10th of March (which was the date of your last communication).  That's all we need.  If you don't have it, don't bother posting.

Wow... you're so demanding and domineering. Yes sir! Whatever you say sir!


Title: Re: Collection Agency Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 26, 2013, 10:03:24 PM
He did provide the service.  He put in the work to find the guy that you were looking for.  Unfortunately, he didn't find who you were looking for.  However: He _DID_ do the work, and everything he was required too.

On another note, he went above and beyond what he had to do.  He even offered you another trace for FREE (see other thread). 
That's BS.  He said today he didn't have enough info to do the search.  So no, he didn't do the work.  He didn't deliver the service.

And, really, how do you know that he did the work?  Where is the evidence of that?

His requirement was to deliver information on a person.

It is not above and beyond to offer a free one, what good is that?  And anyway, that is on his website as part of the deal.
BTW, he posted evidence of his work on the other thread.  Check that out.