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Title: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: bcpokey on February 07, 2013, 10:02:12 PM
I am a long-time member of the forums, but I have not done a forum trade (good rep, but no trade rep). I have an ebay account in good standing, a heatware account with a few sales, and an account on overclock.net with multiple positive trade reviews (nothing but positive on all). So I feel I am somewhat trustworthy. I would be willing to do escrow with a trusted member, or else I would have to receive coin before shipping, unless you can prove that you are very very trustworthy (tons of rep).

The Price: $675US equivalent of bitcoins (can do average value on day of sale) or best offer.

Phone is Slate Black 32GB version, Verizon network (or AT&T / TMobile, whatever GSM network), clean ESN and all. For those who like to mention these things, the phone retails for about $800+ new (http://www.dynamism.com/top-phones/apple_iphone_5/pricing.shtml), so that is > 15% off. The Phone was bought second hand, so it has some small dings on the sides  of the casing (my phones are in pristine condition when I get them new), minor and superficial only, all buttons are flawless, the screen is flawless. Comes with the retail box, the little manuals I believe, and the USB charger, and I can throw in a cheap-o wall charger connector as well that I picked up on my own. No headphones. Will throw in the Otterbox case as well. As you can see with the case on (or any case you prefer) any imperfection is completely invisible.

Pics of phone:
https://i.imgur.com/7DzVVyH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9h3oDVd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PocDaYU.jpg

If you would like any other information feel free to ask, you can make offers, but try to limit "omg ur retarded to try to sell @ that price lolz" to maybe the first 2 people only.

Thanks!


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: John (John K.) on February 08, 2013, 12:42:52 AM
Can you remove the case and show the dings? Also, an unlocked iPhone 5 32GB goes for approx $749 at the official Apple store...
How much hours is the talk time, considering that it's bought 2nd hand by you?


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: Littleshop on February 08, 2013, 01:26:20 AM
Can you remove the case and show the dings? Also, an unlocked iPhone 5 32GB goes for approx $749 at the official Apple store...
How much hours is the talk time, considering that it's bought 2nd hand by you?

Similar item, selling price $515. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iPhone-5-16GB-Good-Condition-Black-Verizon-Smartphone-/370754188582?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item5652abf526

Typically when I sell at item here, I price it a little less then ebay, about less the amount of the fees I would pay.   Half of the items sell, half go to ebay and sell for more then here.  Good luck trying to get more here then on ebay. 


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: crazyates on February 08, 2013, 01:57:39 AM
FYI, the last time I looked into it, you could not activate a Verizon iPhone5 on any GSM network in the USA. Even tho it's the same hardware, the software is different, and won't work on either network unless you specifically buy an unlocked iPhone directly from Apple. If this was bought as a Verizon phone, it can only be activated on Verizon.

I was looking into all of this a few weeks ago, as I needed an unlocked phone for StraightTalk GSM plans. I ended up getting a Nexus 4.


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: Littleshop on February 08, 2013, 02:54:55 AM
FYI, the last time I looked into it, you could not activate a Verizon iPhone5 on any GSM network in the USA. Even tho it's the same hardware, the software is different, and won't work on either network unless you specifically buy an unlocked iPhone directly from Apple. If this was bought as a Verizon phone, it can only be activated on Verizon.

I was looking into all of this a few weeks ago, as I needed an unlocked phone for StraightTalk GSM plans. I ended up getting a Nexus 4.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/verizon-iphone-5-unlocked-att-t-mobile-video/

This guy says that it works on both AT&T and Tmobile straight out of the box, not unlocked. 

Ok, so do these people...

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-5-to-remain-gsm-unlocked-at-verizon-24248997/

Has it changed?


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: bcpokey on February 08, 2013, 05:44:41 AM
I will take uncovered photos later tonight, or early tomorrow, just got home, long day, and the case is a particularly well crafted one, meaning it's actually a bit of work to open. Not sure what you mean by talk-time, actually talking on the phone? Less than an hour. Using the internet and whatnot, maybe a dozen or less. The previous owners use is unknown sorry.

EDIT: Pics
https://i.imgur.com/5feZ2DS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qNQkxCx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pBvXIbr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0ynzwBv.jpg

Apologies for the blurry side shots, its hard to balance a phone camera and phone and not move at all (old camera was kinda sucky).
Damn case off for like 5 minutes and screen smudgy as a momugga :(

I looked extensively into all this phone nonsense when I was looking to buy (because there was a lot of confusion) and here's the deal:

"Apple Unlocked" iPhone 5s are only unlocked on GSM networks, AT&T, T-Mobile, Simple Talk, etc. Will not work on Sprint, Verizon, MetroPCS or any CDMA carrier (although there are rumors that you can pester them enough to accept a foreign ESN on to their network, or Flash the phone but lose LTE access).
The main draw to this phone would be if you would want to use the Verizon network. Typically Verizon phones go for slightly more as it is the network with the best 4G LTE coverage in the US currently.

http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/452454662.png

Verizon/Sprint/CDMA iPhone 5 phones can be unlocked (and are typically, the latest software update from Verizon unlocks phones by default afaik) for any GSM network as well as their particular CDMA network (but not cross CDMA due to the frequencies they are designed for). Hence a Verizon phone can be used on a GSM network, but not a Sprint network. Take a look at the phones being peddled as "Global Phones" (because the rest of the world uses GSM).

As to "Similar item", I've looked at Gazelle before, their products in "Good condition" come with potentially scratched screen, dings, who knows what (no pictures provided), and does not come with anything, no battery, usb cable, box, etc. Not to mention 16gb and 32gb are apples to oranges comparison. Definitely a good bargain basement buy, but not particularly relevant as a link.


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: crazyates on February 08, 2013, 06:40:45 AM
FYI, the last time I looked into it, you could not activate a Verizon iPhone5 on any GSM network in the USA. Even tho it's the same hardware, the software is different, and won't work on either network unless you specifically buy an unlocked iPhone directly from Apple. If this was bought as a Verizon phone, it can only be activated on Verizon.

I was looking into all of this a few weeks ago, as I needed an unlocked phone for StraightTalk GSM plans. I ended up getting a Nexus 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/verizon-iphone-5-unlocked-att-t-mobile-video/

This guy says that it works on both AT&T and Tmobile straight out of the box, not unlocked. 

Ok, so do these people...

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-5-to-remain-gsm-unlocked-at-verizon-24248997/

Has it changed?
Ya I'm sorry for the confusion, as I was wrong. I was thinking of the 4s (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57495076-94/why-you-cant-take-your-unlocked-iphone-4s-to-another-u.s-carrier/) that can't be switched from Verizon to any GSM carrier. The 5 can.


Title: Re: [WTS] 32GB Black iPhone 5, Verizon or GSM
Post by: bcpokey on February 10, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/458608604.png

Good old Verizon, at the Florida airport :o