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Title: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: leiyplane on February 14, 2013, 05:50:49 AM
A letter to AMD:

As we all know, mining Bitcoin or Litecoin are big selling point of AMD graphics cards, but this advantage will disappear when dedicated ASIC device emerge in the near future. Can your company consider this situation by adding dedicated accelerated unit or instruction set to furture AMD CPU and GPU generation for better Bitcoin & Litecoin mining?


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: payb.tc on February 14, 2013, 05:54:35 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Dalkore on February 14, 2013, 05:55:48 AM
HAHA, train has left the station.  Sorry.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: dirtycat on February 14, 2013, 05:56:02 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No

PS: what is a litecoin?


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: leiyplane on February 14, 2013, 06:13:02 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No


Bitcoin has attracted AMD's attention:  http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx)

Fold and mine faster than ever with AMD App Acceleration powered by the unprecedented 28nm GCN Architecture.6


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: ||bit on February 14, 2013, 06:47:52 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No

LOL!


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Unacceptable on February 14, 2013, 06:58:09 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No

PS: what is a litecoin?

PSS: What is Bitcoin  ???


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Nemesis on February 14, 2013, 07:01:11 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No

PS: what is a litecoin?

PSS: What is Bitcoin  ???

What is mining?  ???


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: thorvald on February 14, 2013, 07:57:36 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

Out of office :)


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: DrG on February 14, 2013, 09:01:22 AM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No

 :o  ;D


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: RoboCoder on February 14, 2013, 02:03:42 PM
Dear Customers,

Please send $1999 per unit you wish to purchase and we will get back to you in eight months.  Maybe. 

But don't expect us to let you know what we are doing.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: greyhawk on February 14, 2013, 03:08:58 PM
Dear Customers,

Please send $1999 per unit you wish to purchase and we will get back to you in eight months.  Maybe. 

But don't expect us to let you know what we are doing.

This sounds strangely familiar.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Atruk on February 14, 2013, 03:46:44 PM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No


Bitcoin has attracted AMD's attention:  http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx)

Fold and mine faster than ever with AMD App Acceleration powered by the unprecedented 28nm GCN Architecture.6

Pretty much this. They know and care to a point. That point is they will acknowledge mining in their marketing and probably not drastically alter their chip architecture to be like Nvidia and suddenly suck at mining, because that would be too much R&D. Will they release dedicated mining cards that are less capable on the graphics side, no.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: cosurgi on February 14, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
Bitcoin has attracted AMD's attention:  http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx)

I don't see any mention of bitcoin on that website. Am I blind? Ctrl-F isn't working?


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 14, 2013, 05:04:40 PM
Dear Customers,

Please send $1999 per unit you wish to purchase and we will get back to you in eight months.  Maybe. 

But don't expect us to let you know what we are doing.

Just what we need: Another Mining Device.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Atruk on February 14, 2013, 05:05:23 PM
Bitcoin has attracted AMD's attention:  http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx)

I don't see any mention of bitcoin on that website. Am I blind? Ctrl-F isn't working?

They don't mention bitcoin by name, but they mention "mining" when they start talking about HPC applications.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: RoboCoder on February 14, 2013, 05:20:48 PM
Dear 0.01% of customer base:

No


Bitcoin has attracted AMD's attention:  http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx)

Fold and mine faster than ever with AMD App Acceleration powered by the unprecedented 28nm GCN Architecture.6

So AMD devices with fold my laundry?????  Woo Hoo!


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: flynn on February 14, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
Best.

Thread.

Evah.





Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: SgtSpike on February 14, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
They might jump into the game down the road, when Bitcoins are worth $1,000 or $10,000/ea, but Intel and NVIDIA would be just as likely.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Xian01 on February 14, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
Considering Bitcoin mining is forbidden at the AMD offices, I don't see this happening.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: SgtSpike on February 14, 2013, 08:25:52 PM
Considering Bitcoin mining is forbidden at the AMD offices, I don't see this happening.
Spending all their time playing video games is probably forbidden as well - what's your point?


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Xian01 on February 14, 2013, 08:31:36 PM
Considering Bitcoin mining is forbidden at the AMD offices, I don't see this happening.
Spending all their time playing video games is probably forbidden as well - what's your point?

 My point is, I don't see them devoting significant resources to a nascent technology. Gaming is another matter entirely, and arguably contributes more to their bottom line than SHA256 hashing.

 Furthermore, I imagine spending all your time playing video games is probably forbidden, even at a video game company.


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: SgtSpike on February 14, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
Considering Bitcoin mining is forbidden at the AMD offices, I don't see this happening.
Spending all their time playing video games is probably forbidden as well - what's your point?

 My point is, I don't see them devoting significant resources to a nascent technology. Gaming is another matter entirely, and arguably contributes more to their bottom line than SHA256 hashing.

 Furthermore, I imagine spending all your time playing video games is probably forbidden, even at a video game company.
Cool, learned a new word today.

And yes, I agree with you.  I'm just saying that the day will come when Bitcoin isn't so nascent, and AMD will pay attention.   ;)


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: PeterChang on February 16, 2013, 06:58:53 AM
AMD is a badly run company with no clue about the future. They missed changes in the desktop processor space, the mobile chip space, the gaming space, the ssd drive space, and now the ASIC mining space. The stock is down about 62% ytd, and it closed at $2.71--they really need all the help that they can get.

The best way to get their attention is to buy some AMD stock then head over to the annual shareholder meeting and request that they build a better miner--if a lot of us purchased AMD stock, we'd be in the less than 1% of customers that would actually purchase a mining device, but we'd have some voting power with our pooled AMD shares--heck I'd also be happy if they would just  build a dedicated Folding@home device while they are building your mining device :)

A letter to AMD:

As we all know, mining Bitcoin or Litecoin are big selling point of AMD graphics cards, but this advantage will disappear when dedicated ASIC device emerge in the near future. Can your company consider this situation by adding dedicated accelerated unit or instruction set to furture AMD CPU and GPU generation for better Bitcoin & Litecoin mining?


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 16, 2013, 07:41:15 AM
AMD is a badly run company with no clue about the future. They missed changes in the desktop processor space, the mobile chip space, the gaming space, the ssd drive space, and now the ASIC mining space. The stock is down about 62% ytd, and it closed at $2.71--they really need all the help that they can get.

The best way to get their attention is to buy some AMD stock then head over to the annual shareholder meeting and request that they build a better miner--if a lot of us purchased AMD stock, we'd be in the less than 1% of customers that would actually purchase a mining device, but we'd have some voting power with our pooled AMD shares--heck I'd also be happy if they would just  build a dedicated Folding@home device while they are building your mining device :)

A letter to AMD:

As we all know, mining Bitcoin or Litecoin are big selling point of AMD graphics cards, but this advantage will disappear when dedicated ASIC device emerge in the near future. Can your company consider this situation by adding dedicated accelerated unit or instruction set to furture AMD CPU and GPU generation for better Bitcoin & Litecoin mining?

AMD's reply:

Upon viewing our balance sheet, it seems we do need a little influx of cash, in your case, bitcoins.

In a couple days we'll be embedding a pre-order button onto our website. Once we receive $2M USD in pre-orders, we will set a fuzzy date as to when we plan to ship. We normally don't do business this way, but am making an exception to not disrupt the status quo as to how bitcoiners currently purchase mining equipment.

Regards,

Bob N

bn/akr


Title: Re: A letter to Advanced Micro Device
Post by: goxed on February 16, 2013, 08:33:54 AM
Lets change Bitcoin hashing algo to SHA-3