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Title: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 35 days late Post by: Sharma on April 19, 2016, 07:00:43 AM What happened:
nakedbitcoins paused his signature campaign 2 days before the end of the pay-week (pay-week ending on 27th march 2016, pause message was posted on the sig campaign thread on the 25th), and didn't pay for the posts made during the first 5 days of the week eventough he was reminded several times by PM, email and on his sig campaign thread. Scammers Profile Link: nakedbitcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558211) Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378288.140 Amount Scammed: 0.17657BTC (combined payment of all sig campaigners together) campaign sheet by notaek (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HKCFFrHBgpoBFR9xUcaFXmqGvIYzWSA8fSL2t1bbex4/edit#gid=1073567334) Payment Method: BTC Proof of Payment: there was no payment, that's the problem ;) PM/Chat Logs: I've PM'ed nakedbitcoins three times, and sent him one mail... I got one reply ~14 days ago, stating that he was sorry for being late. IMHO the logs/mails don't matter tough, since you can clearly see in the thread/sheet that he didn't pay what he owed Additional Notes: See under this standard text I find it very sad that i'm compelled to open a scam accusation, especially since nakedbitcoins has payed his sig campaigners 3 times without a hitch... He's an OK person to deal with, so i've kept this private as long as i could bare, and even tough his debt with me personally is only 0.0254BTC, i think debt should always be payed in a timely matter, hence this thread. I also firmly believe that if nakedbitcoins pays his debt, he's still a good person to deal with! nakedbitcoins was notified of this thread by PM: Hello, I've opened a thread to discuss the payment problem we're having with the paused nakedbitcoins campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442204.new#new Please drop by and suggest a payment sollution asap. Thank you Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Xenophoto on April 19, 2016, 07:15:11 AM Just a quick quote. This is his last post.
shouldnt he receive negative trust for not paying the participants? I had the same idear last week, but i agreed to stand down for another couple of days, altough i must admit my patience is beginning to run very thin. I've PM'ed nakedbitcoins twice, and emailed him once: no reply. I've messaged the campaign manager: he's friendly and responsive, but he has no controll over nakedbitcoins funds, so he cannot pay us (since he doesn't have the coins to do so). Hi Sharma, Sorry, was on travel. Everything will be paid back please be patient as rounding up funds to do so. Notek has been a great campaign manager for this signature campaign. That was posted in April 6 but he was last online on April 9. The signature campaign was probably paused because they haven't put any funds yet for signature campaign. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Sharma on April 19, 2016, 07:21:12 AM That was posted in April 6 but he was last online on April 9. The signature campaign was probably paused because they haven't put any funds yet for signature campaign. It doesn't really matter to tell you the truth... The sig campaign was paused on the 25th of march, payment was due on the 27th. This means he's 23 days late. He owes several members a combined total of less than 0.18BTC (that's less than $80 at current preev rate). It shouldn't take him 23 days to round op 80 bucks, even if he still needs to buy bitcoins it should only take him 1-2 days... Since he was rounding up funds on the 6th, i was expecting coins in my wallet on the 7th... I think i've been more than patient waiting till the 19th to open a thread about the problem. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: aakashsangwan on April 19, 2016, 07:25:11 AM That was posted in April 6 but he was last online on April 9. The signature campaign was probably paused because they haven't put any funds yet for signature campaign. It doesn't really matter to tell you the truth... The sig campaign was paused on the 25th of march, payment was due on the 27th. This means he's 23 days late. He owes several members a combined total of less than 0.18BTC (that's less than $80 at current preev rate). It shouldn't take him 23 days to round op 80 bucks, even if he still needs to buy bitcoins it should only take him 1-2 days... Since he was rounding up funds on the 6th, i was expecting coins in my wallet on the 7th... I think i've been more than patient waiting till the 19th to open a thread about the problem. I agree with you , if Nakedbitcoins running a big site and not even able to pay the 0.18btc for such a long period then it means that he is not in willing to pay the signature campaign payment. The bitcoins which has to be paid is very less comparing to the site revenue. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Gwapo on April 19, 2016, 01:32:43 PM I can see that,
Name: nakedbitcoins Posts: 236 Activity: 182 Position: Full Member Date Registered: September 29, 2015, 03:24:27 AM Last Active: April 09, 2016, 11:54:08 PM So it will not matter unless you contact him personally. Its better to email him if you know his email id. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Sharma on April 20, 2016, 06:26:30 AM I can see that, Name: nakedbitcoins Posts: 236 Activity: 182 Position: Full Member Date Registered: September 29, 2015, 03:24:27 AM Last Active: April 09, 2016, 11:54:08 PM So it will not matter unless you contact him personally. Its better to email him if you know his email id. I have already mailed him a long time ago... didn't get an answer. I realise he hasn't been online for 11 days, but this shouldn't change the fact that being 24 days late with a payment is unacceptable. It isn't because he hasn't used his account in a while that nothing should be done ;) Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: iv4n on April 21, 2016, 11:31:09 AM I don't what to say. I remember I saw my username in spreadsheet for avatar campaign. When they said they will not pay for last week I stopped posting and I didn't have minimum. So Noatek didn't count on me for any payment.
I don't wish to argue, but I think noatek need to take a responsibility for that campaign. He didn't inform us on time that there is no founds, he did who knows what with spreadsheet, and in the end he just abandon all of us and campaign like that? He didn't try to fight for us, he just quit. In beginning I thought he is a leader but I was wrong. For me that story is over, I don't think we will see that money ever. Well you people maybe, but my name is not even on the list. I'm disappointed with noatek and I think he needed to do something first. Like this I just can think that he was paid for his work and he knew that this will happen. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: iram66680 on April 21, 2016, 11:36:18 AM I do think it was the responsibilty of the company that is offering this campaign service and not the campaign manager that is at fault here. Or they should of held the companies funds in escrow so this sort of thing didn't happen in the first place.
Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: target on April 21, 2016, 12:16:55 PM 23 days late is indeed way over. I'm one of those that didnt receive any fee from nakedbitcoins after he paused the campaign.
I was expecting the fee would arrive still even when he paused the campaign right before the payday which i think is something fishy. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Gwapo on April 21, 2016, 04:43:02 PM I think you all should email nakedbitcoins and make his inbox full with payment request. This will help him to come forward and return his debt.
I dont think he will ruin his reputation for $78. Also keep in mind that he was scammed by Samdo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378293). So he might need some time for recovery. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Sharma on April 22, 2016, 06:37:07 AM I think you all should email nakedbitcoins and make his inbox full with payment request. This will help him to come forward and return his debt. I dont think he will ruin his reputation for $78. Also keep in mind that he was scammed by Samdo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378293). So he might need some time for recovery. Didn't know he was scammed himself... Altough that was about 2 months ago, i don't think that's a reason to skip on paying his members now. BTW: i did send him a mail, never got an answer tough. I'm not sure if i can post his e-mail on the public forum, i got it from notaek myself. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Gwapo on April 22, 2016, 08:03:13 AM I think you all should email nakedbitcoins and make his inbox full with payment request. This will help him to come forward and return his debt. I dont think he will ruin his reputation for $78. Also keep in mind that he was scammed by Samdo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378293). So he might need some time for recovery. Didn't know he was scammed himself... Altough that was about 2 months ago, i don't think that's a reason to skip on paying his members now. BTW: i did send him a mail, never got an answer tough. I'm not sure if i can post his e-mail on the public forum, i got it from notaek myself. Email id is already there on his website. Click on contact maybe. He is not online here as of now. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: zOU on April 22, 2016, 04:52:18 PM Well, a website with 3 videos.... I guess they didn't generate enough traffic for the payouts.
of course this is not a valid reason to miss the payments, but my expectations were quite low when I registered for the campaign, so I wasn't really surprised :) Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: luciann on April 22, 2016, 06:47:04 PM If they havent thought of a process of how to pay you out in other ways.
Then it just means you caught them in way earlier stage, so the question comes down is why bother something new? When there are already campaigns that pay out longer then they have.. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: notaek on April 24, 2016, 05:18:04 PM He was online a while ago (http://archive.is/BE1PN). Has anyone reached out to him?
I pmed him as well but haven't received any reply yet. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Sharma on April 25, 2016, 07:39:42 AM He was online a while ago (http://archive.is/BE1PN). Has anyone reached out to him? I pmed him as well but haven't received any reply yet. I have PM'ed him when i opened this thread... So i've sent him 4 PM's and one e-mail... He answered once, apologised for being late, but nothing more... Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Sharma on May 02, 2016, 07:16:54 AM 35 days late already... Edited the OP to reflect this :(
Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 23 days late Post by: Bitinity on May 02, 2016, 11:02:58 PM 35 days late already... Edited the OP to reflect this :( Damn that's so long time of lateness. 0.17xxbtc is not a huge amount for a site that decided to run a signature campaign imho. Not really sure what is happening, but I think they will not pay what they owed. He is not online for 3days now.. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 35 days late Post by: Sharma on May 03, 2016, 05:38:20 AM 35 days late already... Edited the OP to reflect this :( Damn that's so long time of lateness. 0.17xxbtc is not a huge amount for a site that decided to run a signature campaign imho. Not really sure what is happening, but I think they will not pay what they owed. He is not online for 3days now.. Indeed, i saw he'd been online on the 29th... That's the underlying motive for me to bump this thread, and updating the amount of days he's late... I've sent him a PM when i opened this thread, so hopefully one day he'll notice ;) It's not even for the coins he owes me personally, i just believe everybody should be accountable for his/her own deeds, and pay his/her own debt. Be it $5 or $5.000.000, a debt is a debt. Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 35 days late Post by: European Central Bank on May 03, 2016, 10:57:05 AM Well, I for one don't take sig campaigns so seriously. It's a bonus, not a lifeline. Give the guy some negative trust and go find another one. The world's gonna keep on turning.
Title: Re: nakedbitcoins sig campaign payments 35 days late Post by: Sharma on May 04, 2016, 07:56:45 AM Well, I for one don't take sig campaigns so seriously. It's a bonus, not a lifeline. Give the guy some negative trust and go find another one. The world's gonna keep on turning. Sure, i have a normal daytime job, and i post because i want to post, not because i'm in a sig campaign... I'm not dependant on sig money to feed my kid or pay my mortgage. I just don't like people that break promises or don't follow deals they made. |