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Title: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: mkc on May 03, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
Well, he has 1 million coins.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: mkc on May 03, 2016, 09:30:44 PM
Never mind, looks like he can not move the million coins either.
He is a liar, refuse to sign any more messages.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Raimonn on May 03, 2016, 10:17:51 PM
He didn't prove that he has the bitcoins, there are some things that he has to show before we can say that he is Satoshi. Could be that he was one of a group of people that created bitcoin.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: raphma on May 03, 2016, 10:32:25 PM
Could be that he was one of a group of people that created bitcoin.

Agree. I dont know who is satoshi, but he probably didnt created bitcoin alone... maybe Craig it's just a member of satoshi team.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: BCEmporium on May 03, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
First you would need MagicalTux (Mark Karpeles) to handle back his coins... still weren't a million... ::)


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 03, 2016, 11:17:09 PM
But he said he doesn't want money and he doesn't want fame... He can donate his coins to charity or everyone here!


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 04, 2016, 12:51:48 AM
So is this officially a hoax or what?  I can't watch any of the bitcoin news sites, and this forum is basically my only connection to the community.  I would be curious about what he's doing with the coins as well--IF he's Satoshi.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: adamstgBit on May 04, 2016, 01:03:45 AM
So is this officially a hoax or what?  I can't watch any of the bitcoin news sites, and this forum is basically my only connection to the community.  I would be curious about what he's doing with the coins as well--IF he's Satoshi.
trust me when anyone knows anything definitely you'll know.

my bet is that he is satoshi
he's just trolling us a little
prolonged exposure to bitcoin does that to poeple....


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: AgentofCoin on May 04, 2016, 01:04:03 AM
So is this officially a hoax or what?  I can't watch any of the bitcoin news sites, and this forum is basically my only connection to the community.  I would be curious about what he's doing with the coins as well--IF he's Satoshi.

If he is Satoshi, then he knows the number one rule: "If you don't control the private key, you don't have the bitcoins.".
Too bad he broke the first rule of Bitcoin Club and "gave his coins to Kleinman to hold". Poor lad.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: mkc on May 04, 2016, 01:58:04 AM
To be honest, I care more about what is the outcome of the that much coins, will it depress the price?

Best will be giving out for free to everyone here.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: adamstgBit on May 04, 2016, 02:01:54 AM
To be honest, I care more about what is the outcome of the that much coins, will it depress the price?

Best will be giving out for free to everyone here.

that would depress the price. Craig Wight said hes already cashed out a bunch of BTC and is "comfortable" so he probably won't cash out much more, and if he dose it would be a few million at a time i guess, no way would he sell ALL his coins.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: nanonymousx on May 04, 2016, 04:18:36 AM
Man, Satoshi really own  a lot of coins, I hope the coins will never be spent, so that we have a legend, a sane legend.
All alt coins inventor can look UP to.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: mkc on May 04, 2016, 11:46:17 PM
Chance is high, that Craig is not the Bitcoin inventor. I think this thread is outdated.

However, I want to express that people Ike myself care about genesis coins.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: nanonymousx on May 05, 2016, 04:27:18 AM
According to Craig Wright

"Over the coming days, I will be posting a series of pieces that will lay the foundations for this extraordinary claim, which will include posting independently-verifiable documents and evidence addressing some of the false allegations that have been levelled, and transferring bitcoin from an early block.

For some there is no burden of proof high enough, no evidence that cannot be dismissed as fabrication or manipulation... You should be sceptical. You should question. I would. I will present what I believe to be 'extraordinary proof' and ask only that it be independently verified. Ultimately, I can do no more than that."


Let's wait and see. Maybe he will move the first block


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on May 05, 2016, 04:34:32 AM
Man, Satoshi really own  a lot of coins, I hope the coins will never be spent, so that we have a legend, a sane legend.
All alt coins inventor can look UP to.


Satoshi is FBI.

BTC is a trial to move everyone to a cashless society.



Duh


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on May 05, 2016, 04:36:36 AM
Maybe this is just Gavin conspiracy?
I can't believe if wright is satoshi, but he's speak has no doubt and it feel like he's hold a lot bitcoin. And why he's not just posting here with he's account?


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: KenR on May 05, 2016, 04:40:49 AM
Maybe this is just Gavin conspiracy?
I can't believe if wright is satoshi, but he's speak has no doubt and it feel like he's hold a lot bitcoin. And why he's not just posting here with he's account?

Gavin is a great guy.Maybe it's halving drama .Criag is is just trying to create a hype in the market.Satoshi's forum account has been banned by theymos if I'm not wrong.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: mobnepal on May 05, 2016, 04:51:38 AM
I have seen in interview of him in bbc that he claimed he don't want money and fame from that we can conclude that craig will not sell all of his coins (if any he have). But i strongly don't believe this guy as a real satoshi who have access to all of those 1million coins. I think this one is just a pre halving drama to dump the price.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on May 05, 2016, 04:59:22 AM
Well, he has 1 million coins.


so you saw the proof of identity that nobody else has seen and now you are saying he HAS 1 million coins!!!

But he said he doesn't want money and he doesn't want fame... He can donate his coins to charity or everyone here!

yeah, sure he doesn't want fame and the first thing he does is contacting 3 of the biggest news agencies and telling them this huge story and make himself famous!!!

Maybe this is just Gavin conspiracy?
I can't believe if wright is satoshi, but he's speak has no doubt and it feel like he's hold a lot bitcoin. And why he's not just posting here with he's account?

this is possible since others have refused to accept CW's request for verifying him as satoshi.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Kakmakr on May 05, 2016, 05:44:20 AM
We will soon know, if he can move any of the Satoshi coins. He promised to bring real proof, and the only real proof he might bring, would be to move some of these coins. The Genesis coins cannot be moved, but the coins being indexed can.

It could cause a sudden panic situation if he starts selling these coins. I would rather see him, move these coins from one Bitaddress to another, and not selling it or placing it on an exchange. ^hmmmm^


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Wendigo on May 05, 2016, 06:09:10 AM
I am inclined to believe that Craig Wright may have been involved with the development of Bitcoin at some point but he currently doesn't possess the private keys to Satoshi coin stash otherwise he would have moved some already to prove his point. I don't know why he is going public with his claims though when he said he wanted to be left alone. Maybe it's some trivial reason or maybe it's some motive for personal gain in some way it's hard to tell right now.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: BCEmporium on May 05, 2016, 10:16:54 AM
He doesn't need to move any coins. Bitcoin is a private key and it's "address" is a public key.
Having this private and public key pair, an address can be used to sign a message.

Now... wouldn't it be strange enough that the supposedly creator of Bitcoin doesn't even know how it works?


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Embroiderymate on May 05, 2016, 11:39:04 AM
Has he proved to have these coins or his he just saying this?


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Boosterious on May 05, 2016, 11:39:55 AM
Well, he has 1 million coins.

i dont think,even he really have that amount of bitcoin,i think he will use that as investement and use that for bitcoin foundation.or maybe he would use that bitcoin for paying some hacker that can help him to create fake signed message ;D


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: alyssa85 on May 05, 2016, 11:50:32 AM
Has he proved to have these coins or his he just saying this?

He said he will move the coins but hasn't yet. I'm pretty sure that all this is to do with him wanting to sell the coins. Think about it if you were in his place - say you needed money, and were sitting on a fortune in coins. Would you a) say "it's my destiny to struggle in poverty and not touch the coins, so that others may get rich thanks to the reduced supply" or b) "why struggle when I can sell those coins to sort out my problems"?


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: amiryaqot on May 05, 2016, 11:56:08 AM
Craig Steven Wight has no access to that coin which belongs to Satoshi's address, he is an liar person who just want some cheap publicity from media to get him in news, i don't think he can move that coins to another address because he has no involvement into creation of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Za1n on May 05, 2016, 11:59:43 AM
Has he proved to have these coins or his he just saying this?

He said he will move the coins but hasn't yet. I'm pretty sure that all this is to do with him wanting to sell the coins. Think about it if you were in his place - say you needed money, and were sitting on a fortune in coins. Would you a) say "it's my destiny to struggle in poverty and not touch the coins, so that others may get rich thanks to the reduced supply" or b) "why struggle when I can sell those coins to sort out my problems"?

What would any of this have to do with him moving or selling any of the coins in private. Satoshi would not need to reveal himself to sell some of his stash. He could move a few thousand coins through a few mixers, exchanges, etc. to remove the ability to track his identity and sell them off slowly over time if he needed money.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: alyssa85 on May 05, 2016, 12:03:38 PM
Has he proved to have these coins or his he just saying this?

He said he will move the coins but hasn't yet. I'm pretty sure that all this is to do with him wanting to sell the coins. Think about it if you were in his place - say you needed money, and were sitting on a fortune in coins. Would you a) say "it's my destiny to struggle in poverty and not touch the coins, so that others may get rich thanks to the reduced supply" or b) "why struggle when I can sell those coins to sort out my problems"?

What would any of this have to do with him moving or selling any of the coins in private. Satoshi would not need to reveal himself to sell some of his stash. He could move a few thousand coins through a few mixers, exchanges, etc. to remove the ability to track his identity and sell them off slowly over time if he needed money.

Moving those initial coins would have sparked a huge sell off even if he used mixers - and that would have hurt him as well as everyone else. Pretty much everyone knows he owns the coins in the early blocks. Bitcoin is pseudonymous not anonymous. If you can match an early address with a person, you can track everything they do with those coins through the blockchain.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Jasad on May 05, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
Well, he has 1 million coins.

where you know the he has 1 milions coins?i dont think he have it.
on bbc i dont see that,i dont see Craig tell us what will he do with his bitcoin,and i dont care about that,we know that news is not true,bbc have said that they also not believe that Craig is satoshi nakamoto.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: nanonymousx on May 05, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
Well, he has 1 million coins.

where you know the he has 1 milions coins?i dont think he have it.
on bbc i dont see that,i dont see Craig tell us what will he do with his bitcoin,and i dont care about that,we know that news is not true,bbc have said that they also not believe that Craig is satoshi nakamoto.

Craig Wright doesn't have 1 mil coins, but Satoshi has 1 millions coins.
And Craig Wrigh already publicly saying he is sorry, although I am not sure what he is sorry about.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: mkc on May 05, 2016, 11:23:14 PM
There are many folks care more about coins, I guess if satoshi loses his private key to the first few blocks, he will not be able to prove himself.
I think it is better this way, a legend remain a legend. A legend all alt coin inventor can look up to.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Alley on May 06, 2016, 02:04:24 AM
What coins?  The 17 he bought from gox at $1198?   


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: fenican on May 06, 2016, 02:20:08 AM
All 43 of them? Maybe he can buy himself a used PT Cruiser


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: ebliever on May 06, 2016, 02:20:38 AM
What coins?  The 17 he bought from gox at $1198?   

LOL, yup. The only coins Wright had went into the black hole when Gox folded. The irony...


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: nanonymousx on May 06, 2016, 05:27:13 AM
What coins?  The 17 he bought from gox at $1198?   

LOL, yup. The only coins Wright had went into the black hole when Gox folded. The irony...

Most early adopter come out okay, maybe this Craig Wright is one of the unlucky one.
He wishes he is S Bitcoin God


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Kakmakr on May 06, 2016, 05:34:11 AM
He doesn't need to move any coins. Bitcoin is a private key and it's "address" is a public key.
Having this private and public key pair, an address can be used to sign a message.

Now... wouldn't it be strange enough that the supposedly creator of Bitcoin doesn't even know how it works?

This is not the point behind the thread. We know he can sign a message, but what will he do with his coins once he decides to use them. I know I would make some bold statement if I was Satoshi. Burning some of them, to prove a point will satisfy a lot of investors and speculators needs.

But, I will still keep about 50% for a rainy day. ^smile^


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Risackwpsp on May 06, 2016, 06:38:08 AM
It doesn't matter because he is NOT satoshi.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: BCEmporium on May 06, 2016, 08:54:30 PM
He doesn't need to move any coins. Bitcoin is a private key and it's "address" is a public key.
Having this private and public key pair, an address can be used to sign a message.

Now... wouldn't it be strange enough that the supposedly creator of Bitcoin doesn't even know how it works?

This is not the point behind the thread. We know he can sign a message, but what will he do with his coins once he decides to use them. I know I would make some bold statement if I was Satoshi. Burning some of them, to prove a point will satisfy a lot of investors and speculators needs.

But, I will still keep about 50% for a rainy day. ^smile^

That wasn't what he said! His excuse for not moving the coins is that would violate some shady trust agreement.
Well... he doesn't need to move coins to prove ownership of an address.


Title: Re: Did Craig Steven Wight say what he will do with his bitcoins?
Post by: Klestin on May 06, 2016, 09:20:18 PM
According to Craig Wright

"For some there is no burden of proof high enough, no evidence that cannot be dismissed as fabrication or manipulation... You should be sceptical. You should question. I would. I will present what I believe to be 'extraordinary proof' and ask only that it be independently verified. Ultimately, I can do no more than that."

Um, no CW, all you have to do is sign a message with a private key known to be owned by Satoshi (take your pick, there are several).  This doesn't require in-person meetings. It doesn't require special clean laptops purchased down the street. It doesn't require clean flash drives, SSL connections, or tarot readings. Just sign a simple message and be done with it.  Here's a thought - sign the top headline from yesterday's NY Times.

Verifiable proof is not difficult to design. It is not difficult to verify.  It is not difficult to create, unless of course you are not Satoshi and do not have access to any of his private keys.