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Title: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: faince222 on May 18, 2016, 02:34:41 PM
Hi Guys. I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam. Here is a digital signature, to prove that I'm Gianluca95.

-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1Keobr25pfnsgVsokKVLTqRVueymaQS92K
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----

-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
Hi, I'm Gianluca95 and I'm the owner of the account faince222.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
HO7O9TwFIVjBexfDHLtbdv6G8cQU/dPg5mXSm0rKjJidY+d/doPgjnhq4bn6Ybst9Az/PrE6KIVRmvmkh6LzM1E=

-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1371069.msg14062989#msg14062989

Check this message to see that this address was shared by Gianluca95's account.


Problem: I'll wait until the end of the ban (5 days). I've PMed BadBear about my situation.

Right now I'm managing 4 signature campaign:
Betking.io Signature campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1472343.0
[banned mixer] Signature campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441572.0
Sportsbet.io Signature campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1459293.0
Spam checker for BTC2BID.com: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1413351.msg14732381#msg14732381

Promotion:
Betking.io Tipster Promotion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1470550.0
Wirex Free Virtual and Debit Card promotion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1413317.0


Situation is this: For me is really important to speak with the other users, because right now I'm managing 4 signature campaign and 2 promotion, and I receive something like 20-30 PM/Day. So, users needs my presence because I can solve issues for them.

Solution: Am I allowed to post only in this 6 thread the spreadsheet and just to tell that everyone has been paid (about signature campaign)?
About promotion: Am I allowed to post in this 2 thread to continue my work as supporter for this company?

If not, could I reply at least to PM of people that has problems with payment, messages, etc?.

Please let me know your judgment, because for me it is really important. Thank you.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: BadBear on May 18, 2016, 02:38:10 PM
No, it's not okay, the ban will escalate.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: faince222 on May 18, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
No, it's not okay, the ban will escalate.

For me is really necessary to continue my work because there are at least 100 user under the campaign that I actually manage, and is really important to give them some news during this days (about payment, enrollment, and other things).

What can I do?


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Quickseller on May 18, 2016, 02:49:04 PM
I would suggest that you contact the owners of the sites of the campaigns you manage to let them know they will need to find at least a temporary replacement.

I would not use the PM system.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: faince222 on May 18, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
Am I allowed at least to PM this user to inform that I'm banned? He is the owner of [banned mixer]:

- [banned mixer]

I haven't any other contact with him (skype, etc.)


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: BitBerau on May 18, 2016, 02:56:01 PM
Am I allowed at least to PM this user to inform that I'm banned? He is the owner of [banned mixer]:

- [banned mixer]


Can't you read/understand the rules?

You are ONLY allowed to post a thread in meta about your ban, NOTHING else!


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: faince222 on May 18, 2016, 02:57:27 PM
Am I allowed at least to PM this user to inform that I'm banned? He is the owner of [banned mixer]:

- [banned mixer]


Are you dumb?
Can't you read?

You are ONLY allowed to post a thread in meta about your ban, NOTHING else!

Ok, I'll not PM him. I'll just communicate in the spreadsheet of the campaign that I'm banned (he will read it).

I'll go offline since now, and I'll connect on 23th May.





Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on May 18, 2016, 03:09:35 PM
it is bad news, but i don't understand about the banned of signature campaign


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: jacee on May 18, 2016, 03:18:22 PM
Am I allowed at least to PM this user to inform that I'm banned? He is the owner of [banned mixer]:

- [banned mixer]

I haven't any other contact with him (skype, etc.)
Gianluca, You can contact cryptomixer via their support ticket about the signature. He's been giving more time in responding in there instead of here in the forum. Also as they said, you are not allowed to send them PM.

Also I think it's okay to use this thread to communicate to the campaign participants regarding your situation. It's in meta and this thread so I don't think that is ban evading?? You can even ask one here to notify the owners of your campaigns about your account being banned.

Edit: It's not allowed.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: botany on May 18, 2016, 03:20:35 PM
Also I think it's okay to use this thread to communicate to the campaign participants regarding your situation. It's in meta and this thread so I don't think that is ban evading?? You can even ask one here to notify the owners of your campaigns about your account being banned.

Actually, no.
You are only allowed to appeal your ban in meta, nothing more.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: jacee on May 18, 2016, 03:27:42 PM
Also I think it's okay to use this thread to communicate to the campaign participants regarding your situation. It's in meta and this thread so I don't think that is ban evading?? You can even ask one here to notify the owners of your campaigns about your account being banned.

Actually, no.
You are only allowed to appeal your ban in meta, nothing more.
Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I was banned before and a couple of topics were opened when I appealed for the ban situation I am in. I was banned because I reset the password via the secret word so ban fom spam has a different rules, yes?


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: botany on May 18, 2016, 03:31:05 PM
Also I think it's okay to use this thread to communicate to the campaign participants regarding your situation. It's in meta and this thread so I don't think that is ban evading?? You can even ask one here to notify the owners of your campaigns about your account being banned.

Actually, no.
You are only allowed to appeal your ban in meta, nothing more.
Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I was banned before and a couple of topics were opened when I appealed for the ban situation I am in. I was banned because I reset the password via the secret word so ban fom spam has a different rules, yes?

If you try resetting your password through secret question, your account gets locked (and not banned).
The concept of ban evasion doesn't apply in that case.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: notlist3d on May 18, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
Also I think it's okay to use this thread to communicate to the campaign participants regarding your situation. It's in meta and this thread so I don't think that is ban evading?? You can even ask one here to notify the owners of your campaigns about your account being banned.

Actually, no.
You are only allowed to appeal your ban in meta, nothing more.
Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I was banned before and a couple of topics were opened when I appealed for the ban situation I am in. I was banned because I reset the password via the secret word so ban fom spam has a different rules, yes?

If you try resetting your password through secret question, your account gets locked (and not banned).
The concept of ban evasion doesn't apply in that case.

These are two completely different bans though.   jacee is talking about the lock from security question, it is not so much a ban as a lock for using security question.  OP is in a actual ban, which means only can appeal in Meta in OP's case.

So it's kinda apples and oranges.   A security lock from question and a ban for spam are in no way the same things, or same situations.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: ndnh on May 18, 2016, 04:39:35 PM
For the 5 days, you should not use Gianluca95 or faince222 or any other accounts to post on any thread other than the thread appealing ban (including giving trust feedbacks), send personal messages in the bitcointalk forum.

You can still:
+ browse the forum and take note of bets/entries etc.
+ update spreadsheet
+ change signature so people will be aware of it
+ talk/chat/email anyone through anything outside the forum, even arrange someone else to post important stuff etc.

Disclaimer : This is as per my understanding of the rules.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Bakedbeans on May 18, 2016, 04:50:15 PM
Whats the threshold for personal messages before you are banned for spam? Would think exceptions would be made for people running a business here or is it frowned on to run a business here? Honest questions do not shoot me!


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Lauda on May 18, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
Whats the threshold for personal messages before you are banned for spam?
There are no fixed numbers, it is a case-by-case basis.

Would think exceptions would be made for people running a business here or is it frowned on to run a business here? Honest questions do not shoot me!
No exceptions. Whether it is a regular user, donator, staff member, if they break the rules they should be punished.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: minifrij on May 18, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
Whats the threshold for personal messages before you are banned for spam?
There are no fixed numbers, it is a case-by-case basis.
To perhaps elaborate on this, it depends on how/what the user is spamming, and partly how the user conducts themselves on the forum. For example, posting 3-4 large advertisements around the forum would (I hope) give you a temporary ban, however posting 3-4 low quality comments on certain threads would likely be fine.
I also believe that those part of a Signature Campaign are scrutinized more harshly than those who aren't, as they would perhaps be rewarded should they spam.

Would think exceptions would be made for people running a business here or is it frowned on to run a business here?
Why's that? Running a business doesn't make you exempt from rules in real life, why would they on this forum?


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: KenR on May 18, 2016, 05:19:15 PM
I'm curious why this dude is banned ? He should have been banned a long time ago ,the amount of shit he posts in Signature Campaign threads.Who makes him a campaign manager anyway ? Don't know how exactly he is managing the campaign being a shit poster himself.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Lutpin on May 18, 2016, 05:21:30 PM
Who makes him a campaign manager anyway ? Don't know how exactly he is managing the campaign being a shit poster himself.
The guys running the business you advertise, aparently.

Would think exceptions would be made for people running a business here or is it frowned on to run a business here?
If you're "running a business, you above all should play by the rules.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Bakedbeans on May 18, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
My bad,I misread the post as he was banned for spamming through personal message.
No idea how I presumed this and reason I was some what confused.



Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: minifrij on May 18, 2016, 05:27:55 PM
I'm curious why this dude is banned ? He should have been banned a long time ago ,the amount of shit he posts in Signature Campaign threads.
I'm just throwing a shot in the dark, however it is probably because a  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14859442#msg14859442)lot  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14790744#msg14790744)of  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14859430#msg14859430)his  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14858302#msg14858302)posts  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14858188#msg14858188)look  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14850060#msg14850060)exactly  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14849784#msg14849784)the  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14849747#msg14849747)same. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg14790770#msg14790770) They're also very frequent, I grabbed all but two of those from the first page of his recent posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206159;sa=showPosts;start=0).
These posts are obviously copy-pasted, which is unacceptable. Especially so when you're wearing a signature and being paid for it.

The guys running the business you advertise, aparently.
Not running, but spam checking for their signature campaign. Pretty ironic if I say so myself.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: KenR on May 18, 2016, 05:36:48 PM
--snipe--
I kinda figured that out.He promotes and manages like 8 different things,does this guy even have life outside the forum ?Sorry if its a bit off topic there.

Not running, but spam checking for their signature campaign. Pretty ironic if I say so myself.
I had a detailed argument over this when he was selected as the campaign spam checker (fancy term).In case anyone is interested https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1413351.msg14761625#msg14761625


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Lutpin on May 18, 2016, 05:42:22 PM
I kinda figured that out.He promotes and manages like 8 different things,does this guy even have life outside the forum?
Depending on how closely and how seriously you manage a campaign, the time needed for it can vary a great deal.
He might just need as much time as another manager gives a single campaign to get by with the 4 under his name.
Also, you've forgotten that he has to maintain his alt account aswell (which has a terrible post quality, to be honest).


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: BitcoinBabbler on May 18, 2016, 05:51:35 PM
It is only five days.. you are banned for a reason... keep calm, and mine btc.. :P

Seriously, OP, why do you even do this kind of things? Like spamming and all? Why not just contribute to the community? Why run after advertizers that throw you monies for signature?

Granted, It is not bad to use Signature Campaign but spamming? Shit man.

Keep calm and do not enter tthe site in next 5 days. Do as the admin tells, or there could be bigger trouble than this.. Just my 2 cents..


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: KenR on May 18, 2016, 07:16:11 PM
I thought you were banned permanently but 5 days will pass fast don't worry, also don't worry you can count the posts even without logging here. About the spam i would suggest how SFR10 posts when he manages a campaign, he put all the users entry post into one post (even posts after that post).
Pal,do you even have a clue what he got banned for ? That has nothing to do with Signature campaigns.Thanks for the condolences anyway.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Scamalert on May 18, 2016, 07:55:50 PM
I'm curious why this dude is banned ? He should have been banned a long time ago ,the amount of shit he posts in Signature Campaign threads.Who makes him a campaign manager anyway ? Don't know how exactly he is managing the campaign being a shit poster himself.

He is a shit-poster, he is filling up the Forum with garbage....... He should be perma-banned in my opinion......


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Wapinter on May 18, 2016, 09:36:55 PM
No, it's not okay, the ban will escalate.

For me is really necessary to continue my work because there are at least 100 user under the campaign that I actually manage, and is really important to give them some news during this days (about payment, enrollment, and other things).

What can I do?
Given that your ban will effect other members and campaigns that you manage,I hope you be granted some relaxations that you asked for


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Lutpin on May 18, 2016, 09:42:04 PM
Given that your ban will effect other members and campaigns that you manage,I hope you be granted some relaxations that you asked for
It was already stated that there won't be any, and that's good so.
No freebies for anyone, rules are rules and they apply to everyone, no matter what position you are in.

No exceptions. Whether it is a regular user, donator, staff member, if they break the rules they should be punished.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Anduck on May 18, 2016, 11:04:22 PM
I thought you were banned permanently but 5 days will pass fast don't worry, also don't worry you can count the posts even without logging here. About the spam i would suggest how SFR10 posts when he manages a campaign, he put all the users entry post into one post (even posts after that post).
Pal,do you even have a clue what he got banned for ? That has nothing to do with Signature campaigns.Thanks for the condolences anyway.

Curious: What was he banned for? Spamming but via PM, threads or what?


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on May 19, 2016, 01:18:23 AM
No, it's not okay, the ban will escalate.

For me is really necessary to continue my work because there are at least 100 user under the campaign that I actually manage, and is really important to give them some news during this days (about payment, enrollment, and other things).

What can I do?



@faince222

Your major mistake here is that you are wrongfully assuming that you signature campaign management and any of the 100 Sig Spammers mean a rat's ass to the admin of this site.


Should have thought about that before spamming.




~BCX~



Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 19, 2016, 02:01:40 AM
I hope all the businesses he is representing and future businesses he contacts are paying attention to this thread. Im not sure how hes managing 4 campaigns period with all the crap hes posted himself and i dont really care all that much since ive barely been attempting to manage any campaigns myself. I will say that being a campaign manager to him seems to be only a payday vs actually doing a job.

There are much more qualified users to do the jobs he being paid for. Examples being luptin, myself, even mexxer although new to managing did a better job.

To all users who own a company and will be looking for a manager please do some research on your candidates and choose someone who can represent your company well.Dont just choose the cheapest rate. Real managers will keep the spam down, keep your companies name in good standing, and save you money by not paying users for trash


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on May 19, 2016, 02:34:59 AM
someone can explain to me? how is can Gianluca95 banned of signature campaign. he is just manajer and there are many signature campaign services and there are not problem. but why he is banned? thank you very much i am sorry about my question.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: Lutpin on May 19, 2016, 02:39:02 AM
someone can explain to me?
Maybe. i can try, not sure if you'll get it though.

how is can Gianluca95 banned of signature campaign.
He isn't. He's banned from posting on this forum (and therfore banned from sending PMs aswell).

he is just manajer and there are many signature campaign services and there are not problem.
He's a user of this forum and has to follow the rules. Rules that apply to anyone just alike.
If others don't have problems, that's probably because they haven't violated the rules.
OP however did.

but why he is banned?
Spamming.


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on May 19, 2016, 04:28:36 AM
someone can explain to me?
Maybe. i can try, not sure if you'll get it though.

how is can Gianluca95 banned of signature campaign.
He isn't. He's banned from posting on this forum (and therfore banned from sending PMs aswell).

he is just manajer and there are many signature campaign services and there are not problem.
He's a user of this forum and has to follow the rules. Rules that apply to anyone just alike.
If others don't have problems, that's probably because they haven't violated the rules.
OP however did.

but why he is banned?
Spamming.
ok i have understood it is about spamming, what are criteria of spamming on the rules?


Title: Re: I'm Gianluca95 and my account is banned for spam.
Post by: faince222 on May 19, 2016, 05:18:30 AM
Since here we're talking about everything but not about my ban, I'm forced to close this thread in way to safeguard my reputation from some jackals ( ::)). Once I'll come back, I'll unlock this thread and give a very long reply in way to let everyone understand everything, from the reason of the ban to the fee that I charge for a signature campaign. I'm sad to think that there were few people that was waiting for this in way to attack me.