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Title: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Lethn on May 20, 2016, 11:41:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Wilikon on May 21, 2016, 02:44:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k


Nice!




Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Lethn on May 21, 2016, 01:09:51 PM
Thought it might be an interesting watch, I know a lot of people here will be pro-leave anyway but if anyone is thinking of staying I think the movie makes some good points.


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Wilikon on May 21, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
Thought it might be an interesting watch, I know a lot of people here will be pro-leave anyway but if anyone is thinking of staying I think the movie makes some good points.


I watched the whole video. It should start a good conversation here I hope. There must be some Brits who love europe and want to stay in europe...




Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Lethn on May 21, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
There's loving Europe and then there's supporting technocrats and I think it would be disastrous for democracies everywhere to support these people, the problem is that there's been a particular campaign to associate any form of self-determination with xenophobia and ultra-nationalism which I think is ridiculous.

Really all they're doing is calling people who disagree with them racists, I've seen people pretty much doing this within the Guardian comments.


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: criptix on May 21, 2016, 02:58:01 PM
There's loving Europe and then there's supporting technocrats and I think it would be disastrous for democracies everywhere to support these people, the problem is that there's been a particular campaign to associate any form of self-determination with xenophobia and ultra-nationalism which I think is ridiculous.

Really all they're doing is calling people who disagree with them racists, I've seen people pretty much doing this within the Guardian comments.

You are the one that believes that shit... go into the streets and meet people. Stop reading 20 hours a day threads on bitcointalk.

>.<


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Lethn on May 21, 2016, 04:32:04 PM
There's loving Europe and then there's supporting technocrats and I think it would be disastrous for democracies everywhere to support these people, the problem is that there's been a particular campaign to associate any form of self-determination with xenophobia and ultra-nationalism which I think is ridiculous.

Really all they're doing is calling people who disagree with them racists, I've seen people pretty much doing this within the Guardian comments.

You are the one that believes that shit... go into the streets and meet people. Stop reading 20 hours a day threads on bitcointalk.

>.<

How's defending a religion that believes it's okay to kill apostates and throw gays off rooftops going for you Criptix? :)

Did you pop up on this thread because I'm not bothering with your bullshit anymore?


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: criptix on May 21, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
There's loving Europe and then there's supporting technocrats and I think it would be disastrous for democracies everywhere to support these people, the problem is that there's been a particular campaign to associate any form of self-determination with xenophobia and ultra-nationalism which I think is ridiculous.

Really all they're doing is calling people who disagree with them racists, I've seen people pretty much doing this within the Guardian comments.

You are the one that believes that shit... go into the streets and meet people. Stop reading 20 hours a day threads on bitcointalk.

>.<

How's defending a religion that believes it's okay to kill apostates and throw gays off rooftops going for you Criptix? :)

Did you pop up on this thread because I'm not bothering with your bullshit anymore?

from brexit to isis, that escalated pretty quick. (changing topics fast huh)

so how many homosexuals are getting thrown from rooftoops in the uk? and how will a brexit stop it?

i know you wont give me an answer to this - so lets change to your topic:

i really think isis and similiar islamic fanatics have to be jailed and the west has to intervene in syria - but that is a whole different topic right? or will a brexit make the UK able to stop isis and islamic fanatism? :)


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Lethn on May 21, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
You're really desperate to get my attention aren't you?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Now go and find something more productive to do with your time, also, the fact that we'll have a government that actually lives in the country making decisions to stop Islamic extremism will make a massive difference compared to the EU parliament telling us what to do.

I suspect you know all this and you're just trying to deliberately provoke me however because you're an idiot, all of these issues are interlinked because it deals with the sovereignty of a nation.


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: criptix on May 22, 2016, 12:55:04 PM
You're really desperate to get my attention aren't you?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Now go and find something more productive to do with your time, also, the fact that we'll have a government that actually lives in the country making decisions to stop Islamic extremism will make a massive difference compared to the EU parliament telling us what to do.

I suspect you know all this and you're just trying to deliberately provoke me however because you're an idiot, all of these issues are interlinked because it deals with the sovereignty of a nation.

Interesting that im looking for attention from someone who wanted to ignore me a week ago. Perception of reality and stuff - you remember what i told you?

To your guardian article:

Muslims and islam has problems and nobody denies that but the good thing is that these are all humans that can learn and evolve. And one of the most important reason they can do it is the will to integrate:

Quote
The research suggests that 86% of British Muslims feel a strong sense of belonging in Britain, which is higher than the national average of 83%. A large majority (91%) of the British Muslims who took part in the survey said they felt a strong sense of belonging in their local area, which is higher than the national average of 76%.

Of those questioned, 88% said Britain was a good place for Muslims to live in, and 78% said they would like to integrate into British life on most things apart from Islamic schooling and some laws.


If we talk about muslim fanactics they usually have several things in common:

Bad education and zero perspective with no acceptance in the society. That is where we have to tackle the topic not some wanna wishful thinking that brexit will somehow overthrow islamic fanatism.

And your argument is that the EU commision is actually obstructing the UK in their battle against islamic fanatism?

How many syrian refugees did the UK accept?

So what exactly did the UK wanted to do that the EU squashed?

Edit

Btw thanks for the idea but i already stopped to visit bct regularly and i must say i feel very refreshed :)


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Sponsoredby15 on September 03, 2016, 01:21:46 PM
Is this all about the economy of EU? I want to watch it who has a copy of this movie. Can you show me the link. He he. Thanks. I am interested because I am trader in some company I want to know what will happened. And why they are confident to get away in EU.


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: popcorn1 on September 05, 2016, 01:54:23 AM
To the world BREXIT MEANS BREXIT..No point threatening us we are OUT..

Please do take all your businesses out of the UK if you feel the need to do so..
More businesses to open up in the UK for our own people to own and sell around the world..

Now so many goods and services to go through to say what we will get a tariff on..
It would take years and years and years to go through every item..

Now you will charge us 10% for selling to the EU for tariffs..
Now when you sell to us we will charge the EU 10% for tariffs..

So everyone's goods and services have all gone up 10% all over the world?..
Now give everyone 10% pay rise in wages..So in the end no problems all the same ;) ;)..

OH but no you want our 10 billion? well your not getting it..

Plus how dare you the EU tell GREAT BRITAIN who we can sell to and who we cannot sell to
We will sell to who we like..WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT..

WE BRITISH WILL NEVER BE SLAVES..
So to the EU our people don't work for your EU politicians to have a job and pass it on to your family so they can work for the EU..
No one voted for you so PISS OFF..
You EU politicians are well worse than people on welfare YOUR THE BIGGEST BUMS ON THIS PLANET BY FAR..You take people taxes FOR WHAT..TO TALK BULLSHIT..
200k a year to someone we never voted for..And they talk shit..
So who is worse welfare claimant or a EU politician..
EU politician gets well more of people taxes..Now go and get a proper job you EU BUMS ;D..
Because your finished..





Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: popcorn1 on September 05, 2016, 02:20:50 AM
To Japan keep your nose out..How dare you tell us we must except free movement of people
or you will pull out..No free movement of people..Australian point system ;)..

Take your business and get the fuck out you cheeky little Japs have some respect like Germany
Mrs may tell them JAPS TO FUCK OFF..Ok nicely then..

I was brought up by gran mother and when we watch war movies she would always sob her heart
out and then tell me what these JAPS are like..She fucking hated you people..
You tortured 2 of her brothers during the war..And the worst was my gran mothers mum died when she was 9 and she was left to look after her family while her father went to work..
So she was like a mum to her brothers as well as a sister..

And i watched her crying many many times and i hated you when i was little for making my gran cry..
Now as i grew up i forgive and forget..BUT now you threaten us over BREXIT..
When you could of showed respect like GERMANY..But you chose not to..

Now my Gran always said watch those Japs sneaky little bastards..
Now i am starting to think she was right..

Don't you tell our nation how we should get out of Brexit..Cheeky Japs take your shit and fuck off..
I am proper pissed at you JAPS..

BRITAIN IT'S TIME WE STARTED TO THINK AGAIN..
LETS MAKE OUR OWN TECHNOLOGY AND CARS..

Now instead of 2 types of British cars we have 5 types
Now instead of no British phones we will have 5 types..

We will produce some amazing things  ;) ;)..

To JAPAN You say sorry or fuck off.. >:(..



Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: markj113 on September 05, 2016, 10:56:13 AM
Japan's national debt is over 245% its GPD and is expected to hit 300% by 2030. Why is it that these countries that cant manage their own economies feel they are in a positon to lecture us on ours.


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: criptix on September 05, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Japan's national debt is over 245% its GPD and is expected to hit 300% by 2030. Why is it that these countries that cant manage their own economies feel they are in a positon to lecture us on ours.

Majority (nearly all) of the debt is national, means loans taken from the japanese citizens.
That is why for example their credit rating is still A+/A1/Aaa depending on rating firm.

Btw did i miss something? Was there something from Abe at the G20 about the brexit?


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: Jack Liver on September 05, 2016, 05:51:31 PM
don't forget their enormous Forex reserves  ;D


Title: Re: Brexit The Movie
Post by: criptix on September 05, 2016, 06:13:34 PM
don't forget their enormous Forex reserves  ;D

I just looked it up. Kinda crazy how much they have.
Look at china holy...
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/033115/10-countries-biggest-forex-reserves.asp