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Economy => Collectibles => Topic started by: Mitchell on May 20, 2016, 11:04:29 PM



Title: [CLOSED][GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 20, 2016, 11:04:29 PM
Hello everyone,

I just found out about OPENDIME (https://opendime.com/) (Bitcointalk thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1452987.0)) and it seems like a really awesome product. You have to break the center part to get to the private key. That's pretty damn awesome. Anyway, I've decided to do a group buy for these, because... why not? They have a very extensive FAQ (https://opendime.com/#faq), so be sure to read it if you have any questions related to the product.


Pictures of OPENDIME
https://i.imgur.com/NAOYBhdm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/NAOYBhd.jpg)   https://i.imgur.com/jFBC40wm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/jFBC40w.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/667nLtnm.png (https://i.imgur.com/667nLtn.png)


Prices
It's $12.5 per OPENDIME.


Shipping
The Netherlands: €8.15
Rest of Europe: €11.50
Rest of the world:  €16.50
Both are Registered mail with Track & Trace included.

No Track&Trace and not registered (The Netherlands):
< 20 grams: € 0,73
20 - 50 grams: € 1,46
50 - 100 grams: € 2,19
100 - 250 grams: € 2,92
250 grams - 2 kilogram: € 3,65

No Track&Trace and not registered (Rest of the world):
< 20 grams: € 1,25
20 - 50 grams: € 2,50
50 - 100 grams: € 3,75
100 - 250 grams: € 6,25
250 gram - 2 kilogram: € 11,25

A OPENDIME weighs 3 grams (without packaging) and my envelopes are 14 grams.


Extra costs
  • We might need to pay VAT (21%) to import the OPENDIME into The Netherlands, which is the largest extra cost we have (we do not have to pay import costs).
  • The disbursement fee of the used postal service (UPS charges €11.25, PostNL €17,50, EMS €17,50, etc.).
  • The bubblewrapped envelopes. €4 for 10 pieces.


Terms
  • The group buy won't happen if not at least 9 OPENDIME's are ordered.
  • The group buy will be closed for new participants when May ends or interest drops.
  • Once the group buy is closed for new participants the final price will be determined (potential discounts might be applied at that time) and split between the participants.
  • Any BTC that is left over (because the package wasn't checked, the BTC value went up, etc) will be evenly distributed between the participants.
  • If we are somehow short of BTC, I'll cover it up front. The amount of BTC will be evenly distributed between participants. Your package won't be sent if you don't pay your part of the debt. If you don't pay at all, your OPENDIME will be auctioned off to cover the cost and any leftovers are kept.
  • Terms can be changed at any moment, so please keep track of them (important announcement will be posted in the thread).


Join the group buy
If you want to join, please tell me your Bitcoin forum name, country and how many you want.

Username : Country : Amount
Mitchełł (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=113670) : The Netherlands : 3x OPENDIME's
Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872) : - : 1x OPENDIME
Lutpin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=520313) : - : 2x OPENDIME's
wttbs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123869) : The Netherlands : 3x OPENDIME's
minerjones (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=346731) : USA : 2x OPENDIME's (send to wttbs)
TheNewAnon135246 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153656) : The Netherlands : 3x OPENDIME's
klaaas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147451) : The Netherlands : 1x OPENDIME
yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827) : France : 2x OPENDIME's
Zeroxal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508748) : Austria : 3x OPENDIME's
Cyrus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78147) : ? : 2x OPENDIME's

Current amount: 22



Payment address
Payments must be send to "1MkPrZnDwNZ9cJzWGi3kFNhmoh4aqGFSMv". I will NOT send you a PM asking for payment.

For payment amounts, please see this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1479538.msg15248567#msg15248567).


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Lauda on May 20, 2016, 11:14:26 PM
Sign me up for one.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 20, 2016, 11:38:44 PM
Welcome!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: wttbs on May 21, 2016, 05:52:48 AM
I would like 2 with shipping without tracking please, thanks


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 21, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
You have been added wttbs!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: nvK on May 21, 2016, 02:30:22 PM
Hi Guys,

Nice to find this thread.

We normally need a bigger MQO for discounts, but if you manage to get together
a single order of 99 (33x 3 packs) before May 25th we will give you 13% off:)

Thanks for being early adopters!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Lutpin on May 21, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
Make it 2 for me aswell, and either untracked shipping or shipped together with the bitcoin pennies (if possible).


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on May 21, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
I'll take 2 of them as well. Untracked shipping is fine!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 21, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
Make it 2 for me aswell, and either untracked shipping or shipped together with the bitcoin pennies (if possible).
That's fine!

Please send mine to wttbs!!

Thanks
Yes sir! ;D




EDIT: I've opened up the group buy for the whole world. So feel free to join if you are outside the EU and don't want to buy 3 OPENDIME's. ;)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on May 21, 2016, 08:14:58 PM
Only 88 more to go! ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: klaaas on May 22, 2016, 07:37:45 AM
Count me in '

NL 1x Klaaas

If you are living around Utrecht i will pick them up :]


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 22, 2016, 08:23:52 AM
Count me in '

NL 1x Klaaas

If you are living around Utrecht i will pick them up :]
Welcome! We'll talk about how the item will be shipped/picked up once it's time to do so. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Zebedee23 on May 22, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
Is the shipping charge per each 1 or per order??


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: klaaas on May 22, 2016, 06:07:31 PM
Is the shipping charge per each 1 or per order??

the shipping price for NL is covered up to 2kg
i suppose the rest of europe will be the same


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 22, 2016, 07:39:37 PM
Is the shipping charge per each 1 or per order??
It's based on weight. As long as I don't know how heavy an OPENDIME is, I cannot tell you how much shipping will be.


Based on the weight of the coin (and the way of shipping) the prices are as following:

No Track&Trace and not registered (The Netherlands):
< 20 grams: € 0,73
20 - 50 grams: € 1,46
50 - 100 grams: € 2,19
100 - 250 grams: € 2,92
250 grams - 2 kilogram: € 3,65

No Track&Trace and not registered (Rest of the world):
< 20 grams: € 1,25
20 - 50 grams: € 2,50
50 - 100 grams: € 3,75
100 - 250 grams: € 6,25 (I suspect that nobody will have a weight over 250, but I'm not sure)
250 gram - 2 kilogram: € 11,25

Registered and Track&Trace (Outside EU): € 16,50
Registered and Track&Trace (EU): € 11,50
Registered and Track&Trace (The Netherlands): €8.15

I'll update the OP with these prices to make it more clear.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: yogg on May 22, 2016, 11:20:44 PM
Order 2 more for me ! :)
I'll need them sent to France.

Thanks !


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 23, 2016, 06:14:06 AM
Order 2 more for me ! :)
I'll need them sent to France.

Thanks !
Welcome!





A OPENDIME weighs 3 grams (without packaging) and my envelopes are 14 grams, so if you order two your package would be 20 grams and shipable for only €2,50.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on May 23, 2016, 06:20:33 AM
Mitchell, do you know how the Opendimes are packaged (since they are advertised as 3 packs)?


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 23, 2016, 06:43:00 AM
Mitchell, do you know how the Opendimes are packaged (since they are advertised as 3 packs)?
I don't know, but I assume like this:

https://i.imgur.com/667nLtn.png


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on May 23, 2016, 06:46:08 AM
Put me down for another one. I want one of those 3 packs :P


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: wttbs on May 23, 2016, 07:17:43 AM
+1 OPENDIME for me too, love that 3-pack


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 23, 2016, 07:22:21 AM
Alright, done! ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Decoded on May 25, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
Ooh damn I'm interested.
I've got a few questions - (I skimmed through the FAQ, might've missed something)

- Are these pre-loaded?
- I understand the concept of "breaking" the middle part, but does that mean that it's a one-time use?


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: wttbs on May 25, 2016, 11:21:44 AM
Ooh damn I'm interested.
I've got a few questions - (I skimmed through the FAQ, might've missed something)

- Are these pre-loaded?
- I understand the concept of "breaking" the middle part, but does that mean that it's a one-time use?

- They are unloaded, you can fund them yourself if you want
- one-time use


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Decoded on May 25, 2016, 11:32:10 AM
Ooh damn I'm interested.
I've got a few questions - (I skimmed through the FAQ, might've missed something)

- Are these pre-loaded?
- I understand the concept of "breaking" the middle part, but does that mean that it's a one-time use?

- They are unloaded, you can fund them yourself if you want
- one-time use

Ah, if these were collectors items I would defenitely buy a few.

But it's a little out of my price range for a one-time use item. To me it seems like a $18 tx fee :-/

I also don't know very many people irl that I don't trust that use bitcoin.



Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 25, 2016, 12:00:07 PM
It's meant to be used as a piggy bank. If you plan to break the center quickly then this is nothing for you. :P


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on May 26, 2016, 11:11:33 AM
Bump! May will end soon so if you want an OPENDIME, be sure to get in before it does. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Decoded on May 26, 2016, 11:32:42 AM
It's meant to be used as a piggy bank. If you plan to break the center quickly then this is nothing for you. :P

Oh, that kind of concept. I was thinking of it being as it is advertised - A physical manifestiation of bitcoin that can be physically verified, given, then withdrawn from.

I feel that if I purchase it, I'll deposit all my bitcoin, then make up some bizarre reason to take it out again.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Zeroxal on May 26, 2016, 11:36:14 AM
3 opendimes shipped to Austria for me please :)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: nvK on May 31, 2016, 10:33:58 PM
Mitchell, do you know how the Opendimes are packaged (since they are advertised as 3 packs)?

Like this https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F667nLtnm.png&t=565&c=RZolwAc_tn5cdw


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Cyrus on May 31, 2016, 11:10:35 PM
2 for me please.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on June 08, 2016, 07:36:44 AM
The group buy is now closed! I'll post prices and payment information later today. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on June 15, 2016, 08:55:49 AM
Alright, I did not post prices and payment information on that day as I got really busy with school. I've just finished all that so I'll be posting this information tonight. Sorry for the wait!

If anyone still wants to join, you can do so for the next few hours. ;)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on June 17, 2016, 08:56:47 AM
Hello everyone,

I'm hereby posting the prices for the OPENDIME units. These prices do not include shipping from me to you. We will deal with that aspect once they arrive. I've decided to do it like this as the current Bitcoin value is not stable enough to know what it will be once we receive these items (and to be honest, I have no idea how quickly they will be shipped). And there is, of course, the fact that I have a lot of items from different users in storage, that could be combined with this shipment.

I would like to quote the following two terms, as they are quite important at the moment:
  • Any BTC that is left over (because the package wasn't checked, the BTC value went up, etc) will be evenly distributed between the participants.
  • If we are somehow short of BTC, I'll cover it up front. The amount of BTC will be evenly distributed between participants. Your package won't be sent if you don't pay your part of the debt. If you don't pay at all, your OPENDIME will be auctioned off to cover the cost and any leftovers are kept.




Lauda: 0,02556955
Lutpin: 0,04781805
wttbs: 0,07006654
minerjones (units will be send to wttbs): 0,04781805
TheNewAnon135246: 0,07006654
klaaas: 0,02556955
yogg: 0,04781805
Zeroxal: 0,07006654
Cyrus: 0,04781805

You can pay to the address posted in the OP. Calculations can be found here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VkHs0j_7eHjA5eewHoa3sAlZhXBMIKlGrhZGi2i040I/edit?usp=sharing).


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Lutpin on June 17, 2016, 09:00:02 AM
Paid (bb818b4179e50e96908bb3c3e7b9e0fd3db4d9f6b1334989596f391d5917edbf (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/bb818b4179e50e96908bb3c3e7b9e0fd3db4d9f6b1334989596f391d5917edbf)).


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: klaaas on June 17, 2016, 09:27:53 AM
done !


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: wttbs on June 17, 2016, 09:32:13 AM
tx id: 61b2506b66e72cdbdbfde5b00e8103942dd6881f583db5c60b741e5cb8834bc9


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Zeroxal on June 17, 2016, 10:06:29 AM
Payment have been sent:
85fa0664bd172e778a5e0a735ba49ad7dc213a129c98155b12f46dc45c6dea01


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Indianacoin on June 17, 2016, 11:23:25 AM
Hey Mitchell,

Did you dispatch the dies I ordered before?
If not can you please hold on to it before I pay you for one OPENDIME set?

It will help in curbing out the high shipping fee. :)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on June 17, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
Hey Mitchell,

Did you dispatch the dies I ordered before?
If not can you please hold on to it before I pay you for one OPENDIME set?

It will help in curbing out the high shipping fee. :)
Uuuuuuh. I think I forgot about those... You ordered two right? Please send me a PM. ;)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: yogg on June 17, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
I have just paid. Sorry for the delay.

https://blockchain.info/tx/56645c74f3624b0451a7507214ae053a7cc7458fa5c61ce0e0262a45eecabf1e


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on June 17, 2016, 07:06:27 PM
I have just paid. Sorry for the delay.

https://blockchain.info/tx/56645c74f3624b0451a7507214ae053a7cc7458fa5c61ce0e0262a45eecabf1e
No problem!


Updated payment list:
Lauda: 0,02556955
Lutpin: 0,04781805
wttbs: 0,07006654
minerjones (units will be send to wttbs or TheNewAnon135246): 0,04781805
TheNewAnon135246: 0,07006654
klaaas: 0,02556955
yogg: 0,04781805
Zeroxal: 0,07006654
Cyrus: 0,04781805


Title: Re: [CLOSED][GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on June 19, 2016, 07:09:42 PM
Okay, so, the OPENDIME units have been ordered and the next batch is expected to ship in July. I did forgot to incorporate shipping from CoinKite to me into my spreadsheet (which is $50), so I'll have to incorporate that in the final shipping price. No need to worry about that right now.


Title: Re: [CLOSED][GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on July 10, 2016, 06:35:58 PM
Is there any update about the shipment?
Nope. I recently asked about an update and got the same answer as before. They'll ship somewhere in July.


Title: Re: [CLOSED][GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: nvK on July 11, 2016, 01:47:48 PM
The factory is running a little late, but it still should be able to ship before the end of the month (July).


Title: Re: [CLOSED][GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: Mitchell on July 27, 2016, 05:58:31 PM
Guess what I got today? Exactly, a package filled with OpenDime's! Which means that I can start shipping these out. Please send me a message with your address so I can reply with a shipping quote. If I have anything else that is yours, tell me as well, so we can talk about combining items.

I'll post all letters on Friday as I'll be away next week (or at least, I'm not able to ship anything for a whole week).


Title: Re: [CLOSED][GROUP BUY] OPENDIME - Zero-Trust Physical Bitcoin Wallet
Post by: wttbs on July 31, 2016, 07:44:49 AM
Opendimes arrived yesterday. Thanks for another great groupbuy