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Title: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 21, 2016, 08:14:06 AM
I mistakenly clicked the donate button then clicked a thread there and was amazed.
50 btc to become vip here?
I saw that many people already donated.
Counting the donation , It meab theymos and co got about or more than 5000 btc to share. I drank so much so maybe i didnt see that clearly. Please can someone with clear eyes confirm if thts what i saw?


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Makurika on May 21, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
That 50 bitcoin could just worth $1 each when the donation was done. I do not think most people will donate that much now.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: shorena on May 21, 2016, 08:31:31 AM
#1 posts about the forum should be in meta
#2 yes, VIP is 50 BTC and donator is 10 BTC
#3 yes, the price was set when BTC was sold for lower fiat values
#4 no, the price will not change
#5 yes, the money is used (for a new forum)
#6 yes, these questions have been asked a myriad of times before
#7 off topic, just out of curiosity. What is your definition of idiot?


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 21, 2016, 09:28:50 AM
#1 posts about the forum should be in meta
#2 yes, VIP is 50 BTC and donator is 10 BTC
#3 yes, the price was set when BTC was sold for lower fiat values
#4 no, the price will not change
#5 yes, the money is used (for a new forum)
#6 yes, these questions have been asked a myriad of times before
#7 off topic, just out of curiosity. What is your definition of idiot?
More than 5000btc for a new forum?
Ok so when will this new forum surface. That post was posted 2011.  Btc price tgen was about 10$ /btc
Idiots in this scenerio are fools that will actually pay 50btc to to get a VIP badge. Let me know if that answers your question.
What's meta? Is it metaphysics or metamophorsis


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 21, 2016, 09:32:10 AM
That 50 bitcoin could just worth $1 each when the donation was done. I do not think most people will donate that much now.
Only the class I call idiots will do that


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Lauda on May 21, 2016, 10:33:34 AM
Your initial questions have been answered. Theymos will not change the pricing out of respect for the people who have donated previously, because 50 BTC = 50 BTC regardless of the fiat equivalent. In other words, if those people had not donated back then, they could have 50 BTC today.

Ok so when will this new forum surface.
https://beta.bitcointalk.org/

Only the class I call idiots will do that
Have you really opened a thread just to 'rant' about people who donated to the forum?


Update 1:
No. I've just provided you with relevant information and wanted to grasp the purpose of this thread.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 21, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Your initial questions have been answered. Theymos will not change the pricing out of respect for the people who have donated previously, because 50 BTC = 50 BTC regardless of the fiat equivalent. In other words, if those people had not donated back then, they could have 50 BTC today.

Ok so when will this new forum surface.
https://beta.bitcointalk.org/

Only the class I call idiots will do that
Have you really opened a thread just to 'rant' about people who donated to the forum?
Can you ask me something more sensible?
Well in reply to your question, answer is yes.
You got something better to say?


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 21, 2016, 12:22:35 PM
The logic of 50btc then is same as 50btc now didn't make sense. There have been changes in value and supply. People invest in btc because the fiat value.
50btc for vip is just ridiculious.
50btc then won't get you what you get with 50btc now


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Lauda on May 21, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
Again, you have to perceive the 'issue' from the 'donators' side as well: the people that have donated the 50 BTC back then, could have 50 BTC today if they hadn't. This is why the required amount does not need to change. Besides, the forum does not need the donations anymore (it used to for hosting and whatnot). I doubt that we are going to see some changes anytime soon.


Update: Rephrased post and bolded repetitive part.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on May 21, 2016, 11:06:48 PM

No. I've just provided you with relevant information and wanted to grasp the purpose of this thread.


No what you wanted to do was increase your post count to hide your sig spamming under the guise of being a staff member.

Why else have you said the same thing in two separate post on this page alone?


~BCX~


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: The Pharmacist on May 21, 2016, 11:32:42 PM

No. I've just provided you with relevant information and wanted to grasp the purpose of this thread.


No what you wanted to do was increase your post count to hide your sig spamming under the guise of being a staff member.

Why else have you said the same thing in two separate post on this page alone?


~BCX~
Ouchie.

But yeah, I don't think anyone is going to be a significant donator nowadays, though I could be wrong.  I do wonder when the last donation was that earned the donor either VIP or Donator status.  But I'm far too lazy to research this.  It'd be neat to have that sort of status but paying that price nowadays would be insane unless you won Powerball or something.  Or if bitcoin dropped back to $1. 


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Your Point Is Invalid on May 22, 2016, 03:11:37 AM
no, you're poor


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 22, 2016, 10:10:54 AM
The pharmacist reply is the only real reply here. The rest sound like drunkards. Not insulting you guys . just spilling the truth. In fact this post should be on scam thread


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: btctube on May 22, 2016, 10:52:02 AM

whats the matter, it hurt your feelings?  Forget it if you can't pay that much to be a VIP. You still can go on with your life anyway.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 22, 2016, 10:59:49 AM

whats the matter, it hurt your feelings?  Forget it if you can't pay that much to be a VIP. You still can go on with your life anyway.
Someone asked what I meant by idiot. This guy here is a definition of what I meant


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: ndnh on May 22, 2016, 11:38:06 AM
I mistakenly clicked the donate button then clicked a thread there and was amazed.
50 btc to become vip here?
I saw that many people already donated.
Counting the donation , It meab theymos and co got about or more than 5000 btc to share. I drank so much so maybe i didnt see that clearly. Please can someone with clear eyes confirm if thts what i saw?

Confirmed.  8)

50BTC is entirely sensible unless theymos wants thousands of VIPs around (including you?  :o). Then they won't be "Very Important" anymore. So what is your point?



Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 22, 2016, 12:18:58 PM
I mistakenly clicked the donate button then clicked a thread there and was amazed.
50 btc to become vip here?
I saw that many people already donated.
Counting the donation , It meab theymos and co got about or more than 5000 btc to share. I drank so much so maybe i didnt see that clearly. Please can someone with clear eyes confirm if thts what i saw?

Confirmed.  8)

50BTC is entirely sensible unless theymos wants thousands of VIPs around (including you?  :o). Then they won't be "Very Important" anymore. So what is your point?


I will give you my point when you make a point. You are pointless now


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: krunox123 on May 22, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
The logic of 50btc then is same as 50btc now didn't make sense. There have been changes in value and supply. People invest in btc because the fiat value.
50btc for vip is just ridiculious.
50btc then won't get you what you get with 50btc now
The Donator/VIP tag prices are in BTC and they are not pegged to USD.

The prices won't be reduced. They may be increased if the BTC price gets really low. Additional lower-price statuses may be created later. I don't want to manually deal with too many payments, though.

I intend to add new, cheaper donator ranks. I won't decrease the price of the old ranks, though I may rename them (to "Donator+" and "VIP+" or something like that).

I said a long time ago that the prices would remain the same, so I can't change this policy now in any case.

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Are the new ranks' price going to be variable or adjusted every x days or months depending on BTC price?

Maybe. I haven't thought about it much yet. The forum doesn't need donations, so I'm not going to create another donator level soon.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 22, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
Just imagin tbis staement.The prices won't be reduced. They may be increased if the BTC price gets really low.
OK SO IT WILL INCREASE IF Btc PRICE GETS LOW BUT WONT REDUCE IT IT GET HIGH? this is why I say too many idiots here. Why are you guys pissing me off with stupidity. How else do you classify an open scam


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Shiroslullaby on May 22, 2016, 01:46:12 PM
I'm sure the only people who donated 50BTC did it a long time ago, when Bitcoin wasn't worth much.
Since they donated a long time ago, they have been on the forum a long time and the VIP status shows this.
We probably won't see any new users with this title unless they want to spend a lot of money to get it.
And that's okay.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: krunox123 on May 22, 2016, 02:13:42 PM
Just imagin tbis staement.The prices won't be reduced. They may be increased if the BTC price gets really low.
OK SO IT WILL INCREASE IF Btc PRICE GETS LOW BUT WONT REDUCE IT IT GET HIGH? this is why I say too many idiots here. Why are you guys pissing me off with stupidity. How else do you classify an open scam
To be honest, I have no intention in replying to your silly questions. No offense, but your stupidity is just beyond my imagination.

The prices of VIP/Donator tag will be increased if the BTC price gets really cheap is because:
- all of the members on this forum can afford 50 BTC by then.
- every member donates 50 BTC each.
- VIP/Donator tag will become worthless.
- there is no point in having VIP/Donator tag anymore.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: ndnh on May 22, 2016, 04:50:41 PM
If I was theymos I wouldn't see any sense in lowering it either.


Just imagin tbis staement.The prices won't be reduced. They may be increased if the BTC price gets really low.
OK SO IT WILL INCREASE IF Btc PRICE GETS LOW BUT WONT REDUCE IT IT GET HIGH? this is why I say too many idiots here. Why are you guys pissing me off with stupidity. How else do you classify an open scam

Then why are you still here? :P (I believe that makes you an idiot too. Probably the only one..)

Accept it, you can't be VIP anytime soon.



I mistakenly clicked the donate button then clicked a thread there and was amazed.
50 btc to become vip here?
I saw that many people already donated.
Counting the donation , It meab theymos and co got about or more than 5000 btc to share. I drank so much so maybe i didnt see that clearly. Please can someone with clear eyes confirm if thts what i saw?

Confirmed.  8)

50BTC is entirely sensible unless theymos wants thousands of VIPs around (including you?  :o). Then they won't be "Very Important" anymore. So what is your point?


I will give you my point when you make a point. You are pointless now

Read it again?

If there are too many VIPs, they won't be Very Important anymore.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Your Point Is Invalid on May 22, 2016, 08:11:34 PM

No. I've just provided you with relevant information and wanted to grasp the purpose of this thread.



No what you wanted to do was increase your post count to hide your sig spamming under the guise of being a staff member.

Why else have you said the same thing in two separate post on this page alone?


~BCX~
Ouchie.

But yeah, I don't think anyone is going to be a significant donator nowadays, though I could be wrong.  I do wonder when the last donation was that earned the donor either VIP or Donator status.  But I'm far too lazy to research this.  It'd be neat to have that sort of status but paying that price nowadays would be insane unless you won Powerball or something.  Or if bitcoin dropped back to $1.  
The last documented donation was april 2015, dont know who though


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: morepounds on May 22, 2016, 08:35:16 PM
Fuck I wish I was part if this scam.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: gcride on May 24, 2016, 01:17:43 AM
50 BTC would be worth over $22,000 USD today


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: JessicaG on May 28, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
50BTC is entirely sensible unless theymos wants thousands of VIPs around (including you?  :o). Then they won't be "Very Important" anymore.

Interesting point. In essence, a VIP tag is quite useless. Making people "important", based on their pouches (both taken into account the prices back then, up till now)? If for example a guy like Paul Vernon would purchase a VIP, what would such say about ethics... As such example, I surely hope the general would be to refuse the donation, and hence denying in unworthy a VIP tag...?


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Anarchy101 on May 29, 2016, 05:01:46 AM
Only 25k USD.. Pocket change.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: ndnh on May 29, 2016, 08:51:43 AM
Why is the VIP still available for 50BTC? Why is inflation ignored?  :'(

If he had invested the 50BTC elsewhere, he would have had more. It should be accounted for.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: JessicaG on May 29, 2016, 09:40:19 AM
Why is the VIP still available for 50BTC? Why is inflation ignored?  :'(

If he had invested the 50BTC elsewhere, he would have had more. It should be accounted for.




Theymos will not change the pricing out of respect for the people who have donated previously, because 50 BTC = 50 BTC regardless of the fiat equivalent. In other words, if those people had not donated back then, they could have 50 BTC today.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: ndnh on May 29, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
Why is the VIP still available for 50BTC? Why is inflation ignored?  :'(

If he had invested the 50BTC elsewhere, he would have had more. It should be accounted for.

Theymos will not change the pricing out of respect for the people who have donated previously, because 50 BTC = 50 BTC regardless of the fiat equivalent. In other words, if those people had not donated back then, they could have 50 BTC today.

Just saying you can't take a loan and say I will only repay the principal because 0.1BTC = 0.1BTC ;D

Lauda's point is that fiat value is irrelevant (I agree), mine is that time factor(/opportunity cost) should be considered.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: robelneo on May 29, 2016, 10:05:05 AM
if I already knew bitcoin then and part of this forum and bitcoin was only $10 I would have donate 50 btc because it's worth to be a vip of this forum but I guess it's almost impossible to donate $50 now..


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: Lauda on May 29, 2016, 10:47:42 AM
Just saying you can't take a loan and say I will only repay the principal because 0.1BTC = 0.1BTC ;D
Exactly how are donations comparable to loans? They're not.

Lauda's point is that fiat value is irrelevant (I agree), mine is that time factor(/opportunity cost) should be considered.
Changing the required amount at this time would be unfair to the people that have previously donated.

if I already knew bitcoin then and part of this forum and bitcoin was only $10 I would have donate 50 btc because it's worth to be a vip of this forum but I guess it's almost impossible to donate $50 now..
Why would it be impossible to donated $50? You can donate any amount that you want, just don't expect things in return.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: ndnh on May 29, 2016, 11:33:10 AM
Just saying you can't take a loan and say I will only repay the principal because 0.1BTC = 0.1BTC ;D
Exactly how are donations comparable to loans? They're not.

Because both of them involve money.

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The time value of money (TVM) is the idea that money available at the present time is worth more than the same amount in the future due to its potential earning capacity. This core principle of finance holds that, provided money can earn interest, any amount of money is worth more the sooner it is received.



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Lauda's point is that fiat value is irrelevant (I agree), mine is that time factor(/opportunity cost) should be considered.
Changing the required amount at this time would be unfair to the people that have previously donated.

Exactly.



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if I already knew bitcoin then and part of this forum and bitcoin was only $10 I would have donate 50 btc because it's worth to be a vip of this forum but I guess it's almost impossible to donate $50 now..
Why would it be impossible to donated $50? You can donate any amount that you want, just don't expect things in return.

He probably meant it is impossible for him to donate 50BTC now.


Title: Re: 50 BTC TO GET VIP HERE? AM I DREAMING?
Post by: robelneo on May 29, 2016, 12:34:20 PM
Just saying you can't take a loan and say I will only repay the principal because 0.1BTC = 0.1BTC ;D
Exactly how are donations comparable to loans? They're not.

Lauda's point is that fiat value is irrelevant (I agree), mine is that time factor(/opportunity cost) should be considered.
Changing the required amount at this time would be unfair to the people that have previously donated.

if I already knew bitcoin then and part of this forum and bitcoin was only $10 I would have donate 50 btc because it's worth to be a vip of this forum but I guess it's almost impossible to donate $50 now..
Why would it be impossible to donated $50? You can donate any amount that you want, just don't expect things in return.

I'm sorry it's a typo error I mean to say 50 btc not dollar I'm used to type $ but if I that is the deal will do that when I have the fund,this forum enhanced my knowledge about bitcoin and altcoin and we owed it to this community.