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PLAYTIN is a provably fair Bitcoin/Litecoin casino. The outcome of each game is determined by a server secret and a player provided client secret. This ensures that we cannot predict or change the outcome of any single game. After each game play, all this data is revealed and can be verified.
PLAYTIN leverages the capabilities of modern HTML5 browsers. There is no longer a need to download anything or install closed source software or even use exploit-loaded flash technology. We focused on having a friendly and slick user interface, so that players can feel right at home.
All games keep a persistent state. You can switch games, close the browser, or even logout at anytime. When you come back, each game will continue where you left it.
Security is a top priority for us, so we utilize 256 bit https encryption and offsite wallets among a lot of other things.
We offer a wide variation of user accounts, a single click quick registration account, username/password, Google and Persona login, and using your Bitcoin client.  Two-factor authentication can be enabled for every account except the quick one.
There is no wait time as PLAYTIN accepts instant deposits. The player can start playing using Bitcoins/Litecoins as soon as we see the transaction on the network.

JavaScript gambling bot, details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335981.0

Winner of the day jackpot: win the daily growing jackpot by simply playing some games.
Bitcoin: https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#btc (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#btc)
Litecoin: https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#ltc (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#ltc)

	https://playt.in/static/game-lemon.png	Bitter Lemon Multiply your stake, but beware of the lemons, they taste very bitter.
	https://playt.in/static/game-dice.png	Crazy Dice Our very own special version of the popular dice game featuring a house edge of 0.99%
	https://playt.in/static/game-easyhold.png?1	Easy Hold'em The easy version of the famous Texas Hold'em poker game.

https://playt.in/static/game-vpoker.png

Jacks Or Better Our Jacks Or Better video poker has a payout rate of 99.8%, you wont find anything better.

https://playt.in/static/game-keno.png

Keno Our players really enjoy this well known lottery game about numbers.

https://playt.in/static/game-letride.png

Let It Ride Our own kind of the common casino game Let It Ride.

https://playt.in/static/game-reddog.png

Red Dog Red dog, also known as red dog poker or yablon, is a traditional card game.

https://playt.in/static/game-redblue.png

Red and Blue Red and Blue - a game about doubles, poison and of course, the winning color.

https://playt.in/static/game-roulette.png

Roulette Our Roulette has a single zero wheel. Use the mouse wheel to conveniently increase or decrease your bets.

New games will be added on a regular basis. All games can be tested for free by switching to training mode.
Come visit us at PLAYTIN (https://playt.in)

Does't respond when I click Register or Login.  

Using Chrome / Chromium.

Works now.  Not sure what I did different.

Think of the device I am playing the game on (e.g., Tablet) as being a point of sale terminal.  I will be paying using Blockchain for Android app from my mobile.      It would be nice if the "terminal" could present a QR code to me so that I can send payment.  [Update: Feature already exists, click on username to pull up profile, including QR code.]

Click on your account name in the header, there is a QR code on the account page

Ah, nice -- hadn't seen that.

Oh, and 2FA (Google Authenticator/OTP) is an option ... at site launch.  Very, very nice!

Will you share the house advantage (-EV) for each of the games?

Since there is money involved, we think 2FA is necessary  ;)

By using the verify link in the verify pane, every game is completely transparent.

Accepting all 0 confirm transactions? Hmm, I guess enjoy waking up and seeing your hot wallet empty.

The site launch was exceptional. We where able to find and fix a few rather cosmetic issues, but overall everything worked as expected.

As a small thank you to our customers, we have added 100 mBTC to all accounts that have been registered since site launch.

And please keep spreading the word about PLAYTIN (https://playt.in) ;)

this is prettty fun

Thank you. Comments like yours justify all the hard work that went into this site.

Is that Red & Blue game just pick a spot, click your spin (red, blue, or both), then you either win or lose?   Or is there something more to it like minesweeper or something where each consecutive roll builds off the results of a prior roll?

You guessed right, Red & Blue is basically just pick a spot, click your spin. In a way it works somewhat similar to Keno, however, with some very different action :)

I accidentally double clicked play in Keno
and it took my balance ._.

u should fix that.

I checked the logs, and actually you apparently triple clicked. So you played 3 games concurrently.
The issue has been fixed - you have to reload the web page.
Anyway, good catch. I have added 50 mBTC to your account.

lol yeah my mouse sometimes double clikcs on its own its annoying as hell

Due to popular request we have added a single click quick registration account type.

Note: this type of account is based on a secret key in the URL. Lose this URL and you can no longer access your account. Share it and others can access your account.

OP updated.

Current special
Jacks or Better Video Poker now pays a whopping 99.8%.
This is the best Video Poker RTP of all Bitcoin casinos - go check it out yourself.
This offer will probably not last forever, so don't miss it.

OP updated

We are proud that PLAYTIN is now featured at the front page of betwithbtc.com (http://betwithbtc.com). Excellent site, check it out.

Update regarding withdrawals
We had a few customers that had issues using our withdraw dialog.
There is no worldwide standard for the decimal separator. So to prevent ambitiousness we work on Millibitcoin/mBTC only.
In the withdraw dialog this very fact was not stated as clear as it could be. So customers tried to withdraw "0.9" when they meant 900 mBTC. We have added better dialogs to make this more clearly for our customers.

OP updated with more game information

I'm looking to see how I can change my password, as I initially used a relatively weak password and now want to use a strong password.  I was thinkin it would be on the /account# page but don't see it there.

Under certain situations users have been unable to login or register. This has been fixed. Affected users should now be able to login and register as usual.
We apologize for any inconveniences.

UPDATE: Roulette added
We have added another game to PLAYTIN (https://playt.in).
https://playt.in/static/game-roulette.png?1
Our Roulette has a single zero wheel.
Use left click to increase, right click to decrease a bet.
Or you can use the mouse wheel to conveniently increase or decrease them.
As all our games, it can be played for free using the training mode.

For a few games we have increased the max bet.
Have fun at PLAYTIN (https://playt.in) :)

An issue where it was possible to specify a bet amount which was rejected by the server has been fixed.
Since this has maybe confused users, we have added 50mBTC to all accounts that actively played while this issue lasted.

We have doubled the max bet for Red Dog
https://playt.in/static/game-reddog.png?1 (https://playt.in)

Since we have the next game in internal beta, I would take the opportunity to ask what game(s) you would like to be added to PLAYTIN (https://playt.in). Feel free to post here or PM us.
Thanks

nice site, whats the new game?

I don't want to spoil the surprise.
Just one hint, it will be about lemons.

since we have received numerous requests, we have doubled the max bet for Easy Hold'em Poker (https://playt.in).
https://playt.in/static/game-easyhold.png?1

Wow, tried one of the games and it looks really cool :)

There's a lot of jagged edges through, should enable anti aliasing.

Much appreciated, thank you TradeFortress ;D
BTW, we really did not expect this coming from you, since you are advertising some other casino :)

We have added a new game Bitter Lemon (https://playt.in) - check it out
https://playt.in/static/game-lemon.png?1
Multiply your stake, but beware of the lemons, they taste very bitter.

Bitter Lemon suggestion: Make the "spin" slow down when it is about to stop, so it's more exciting :)

And I love non-casino style games!

I agree.  I don't like the sudden stop.

Looks Nice.... Is there a 'play for free' mode to try out the games first?

Of course, there is a training mode. Click on "Change Mode" and then click on "Training Mode". Now you can play for free to try out the games. Once you are ready to play with Bitcoins, click again on "Change Mode" and switch back.

As stated in the account page, as soon as the deposit reaches 3 confirmations you can withdraw to any Bitcoin address.
Deposits are credited to your balance as soon as we see the transaction, but unfortunately sometimes it takes time to get confirmations.
We are sorry for the inconvenience, but those things are necessary much to our regret.
Thank you for the feedback, we will try to shorten the unavoidable as much as possible.

We will reach more than 1000 player accounts later today.
Thank you all!

Have to say definitely fun, even Keno was quite enjoyable.

Thank you! We much appreciate that you like our games.

We have again raised the max bet for a few of our games.

Check out our new promotion video on YouTube
http://youtu.be/6NZUbUo569Q (http://youtu.be/6NZUbUo569Q)

This is a pretty neat bitcoin casino keep up the good work.

Thanks for the kind words.

We will add some nice new features in the next few days.

We have official added Litecoins as a currency. You can now choose to play using Bitcoins or Litecoin. Of course it is still possible to play for free.
Have fun!

Since last time our players have won several thousand Bitcoins.
Thank you guys for choosing our casino :)

Great site! I hit it big last night on the roulette!  ;D it was great fun. Litecoin support is really cool too.

I also like the 2-factor authentication support, really good idea, it's nice to know my winnings are safe and I can play them at any time without waiting for confirms.

Does anyone know if this is the only Litecoin-accepting gambling site? Looks like it to me. Pretty interesting.

This is slowly becoming my favourite gambling site. :) Good job guys!

Doubled my money on let it ride! cool site, thanks guys!

I do not understand how half of the games work. Is there any game explanation on the site?

Since almost all of our games are usually well known standard games we have no explicit explanation on our site.
However we made notes to add such information in the future.
In the meantime just let us know which game exactly puzzled you.

Mainly Red & Blue.

Red & Blue generates a new maze on every play. The maze will be generated from the user provided client secret and the server secret, it is deterministic. The player has to choose a starting position and bets on red or blue or both. If the new maze has the right color at the starting position (always true when betting on both) a wave will be generated that runs through the maze. This wave start of course at the player specified starting position. The wave can hit several symbols and each of those symbols either increases, doubles or resets the winning amount. So depending on your starting position you will win different amounts.
It is actually more difficult to explain than to play. We tested Red & Blue on quite a few players and for most folks it was easier to understand to just play using the training mode than some lengthy explanation.
If something is still unclear feel free to ask.

I've made multiple deposits in the last week or so and I really like playing let it ride.  You are the only bitcoin casino I know of that has it.   I wish it moved faster though (even with the >>> setting).  It is fun and fair.  Withdraw went smooth as well. 

Thanks for the kind words.
We will try to make the ">>>" setting even faster on the next update.

Hi Playt.in,
How are you?
First off, I really enjoy playing at your casino.  Never had a problem depositing and withdrawing there.
Odds of winning are great.

But today, it says that there is "[no connection to Bitcoin network]".
Is site under maintenance?

Hi mscharleneb,

We are really glad you enjoy playing at our casino.

The actual coin server had a low memory condition after running for a few months and hence was no longer too reliable. We have upgraded it and everything should be back to normal.

FYI, the "[no connection to Bitcoin network]" message was added for situations like this. So that players know that the casino is temporary not connected to the Bitcoin network and thus any deposit does not show up immediately, as it is usually the case.

Thank you for the info :)
10/10 rating from me for Playt.in ;)

Thanks!

For some reason we have seen an increase in Litecoin gambling recently. Any major Litecoin news that we have missed?

Was messing around here a bit.  I like the Bitter Lemonade.  With the sound effects an colorful bright graphic  I feel like i'm actually there(somewhere).  It tends to give you back just your bet a lot, 1x.  Can I suggest that Hi/Lo game for a new game.  Where you get a card then have to pick what the next one will be.  Think the last casino that had it is defunct?  
edit:  I take it the odds of landing on the Lemons are better than the other spots, with those high of payouts?  That's a bit annoying, since the graphic design and typical design of spin type games would suggest to the player an equal chance.

Since nobody asked, I think I will scream it outloud... BLACKJACK!
When it will be available I will consider coming inside that... or should I come in now and have some thankful free chips? :P

There's a few casino's with that game already, just look around.  Bitzino I know for sure has it.

Yes I know there is around many websites with blackjack, but I saw only 1 casino with blackjack surrender for example.
Imo Bitzino is very cute because if I have some spare uBTC to throw around I can send them there and play there, I know that, but I wanted to hint a game that for sure a casino... must have ;)

Thanks for the suggestion, we will definitely consider adding such a game.

The odds of hitting a lemon is exactly 50%. To enable the higher payouts (like 5x and 10x) and the free games the lower ones have a higher probability. Even then players have already hit three 10x in a row and even multiple 10x in a "single" game (after hitting free games).

Caused by recent events, it was suggested to us that we should deny US players to use our site. We will not do this. Actually we don't care where our players are from.

Winner of the day jackpot: win the daily growing jackpot by simply playing some games.
Bitcoin: https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#btc (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#btc) - now at 1.15 BTC
Litecoin: https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#ltc (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#ltc) - now at 23 LTC

Congrats the site looks awesome!

Thanks! ;D

I sent the money, but did not receive them. How can I contact you?

Please PM me your txid and/or account ID

A friendly reminder: if you play using a quick account (URL based account) make sure that you have bookmarked this URL. We use no email addresses and we log no IP addresses, so there is no way to prove account ownership.

Thank you for your prompt response. This is a mistake on my side. I hope my question will be resolved today. Thank you!

It seems interesting your casinò.

Is there a bonus for new register?

Thanks

Sorry, at the moment we have no such promotion active. And because we respect your privacy, we never know if you are a new user or have just created another account.
That being said we still have a lot of things to offer.
There are two winner of the day jackpots: https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#btc (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#btc) and https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#ltc (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday#ltc)
Once you have registered we have a fantastic referral program: https://playt.in/#referral (https://playt.in/#referral)
Last but not least, we have the best games and the best odds. For example our Video Poker has a house edge of only 0.2%.
Good luck and have fun :)

I'm not registered... so i've no account.
Thanks for informations.

Then you are only two clicks away from having an account ;D
Just click on https://playt.in/#register and then on "Auto-Register"

Important notice: 2 factor authentication (Google Authenticator) cannot be enabled for quick accounts ("Auto-Register"). However, it works for all other types of accounts (username/password, Google, Persona, Bitcoin)

Thank you! Great Casino and super guys in support!

While doing some maintenance today the deposit user interface was impaired for about half an hour. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Again, the winner of the day jackpot was not won and continues to grow.
The next draw is, as always, at 0:00 UTC and the jackpot will be 1750 mBTC and 3500 cLTC, respectively.

Some new wallet functionality added.
More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333350.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333350.0)

UPDATE: Crazy Dice added
Another game was added to PLAYTIN (https://playt.in).
https://playt.in/static/game-dice.png?1
Our very own special version of the popular dice game featuring a house edge of 0.99%

Hi, I really enjoy playing at your casino

Can't wait to give your new "Crazy Dice" out

Are there any bonuses or promos to loyal players to try the new game?

Thanks for the kind words.

We have a winner of the day jackpot. Next draw will be 2300mBTC
To qualify for this all you have to do is to have played at least a single game within the last 24 hours. More details here: https://playt.in/#winneroftheday (https://playt.in/#winneroftheday).
Next draw is in less than 5 minutes ;)

With the help of user [r_qrSsVA904] we were able to fix a cosmetic bug. Using our new wallet functionality a small tip was send to that account ;)

I made a deposit a few hours ago but it hasn't showed up in my account: https://blockchain.info/address/1n8QoK2SLTrLPCQVGNnNnvy3ZiXr1wQVX

Account name: benzito

same here, playt.in is dead

Playtin got a Litecoin exchange and investment program in the meantime.

I bought a few shares using their asset trading thing yesterday... so please everyone play there :D

New features

Alt-coin exchanges: LTC, NVC, NMC, PPC, XPM, DOGE

Investment opportunity
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529544 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529544)
https://playt.in/#dividends#pbbs (https://playt.in/#dividends#pbbs)

I had a few games in training mode. Bitter Lemon is simple but still fun! :D

Yes, indeed. Bitter Lemon has actually a huge fan base ;D

wheres the daily dividend coming from, when there's not much bump on this thread

Well, to be honest, this forum is not the best way to advertise our site. First, there are a lot of dubious offers on this forum, especially in this very section. Second, most forums users apparently even lack the financial power to gamble on our site. Our minimum bet is 1mBTC, while the average forum users seems to prefer to gamble with dust (less than a few hundred satoshis).

I guess the really wealthy forum members prefer to risk their coins on a guaranteed loss by buying overpriced mining gear and some unprofitable mining contracts.
Therefor since over a year ago we use mostly other ways to advertise our site. And as you can see on our site this works quite well :D

And we will add a few new cool features to our site in the very near future, so stay tuned ;)

i think they are just being overly careful, who can blame them.. owners left and right ranaway with their btc. so they have no btc left much less trust. well youre gonna have to be more convincible than that to attract investors. good work but along way to go
while btc has yet to have a regulator. i suppose you should be as transparent as possible, not jsut with ur business but also your identity so even without regulation you could be punishable by law or something like that

Very true.

We think trust comes with time. There are a lot of people that are using our services since more than a year and these already know that we are trustworthy.

It's less that they're "poor" - most Bitcoin users do have at least some quantity of Bitcoin, whether it's a few bucks or a few thousand bucks. It's that with such a long period of hiatus (from this thread at least) trust drops significantly.

Just asking, you trust a service more that does a daily bump in here than one that is in business since ages?
It seems one never stops learning...

Not necessarily daily, but with news/announcements at least every 2 or 3 days. Ideally over time bumps aren't required due to the postings of other people.

Every 2 or 3 days? I lol'd. At that rate it would have been necessary for us to announce about 200 things since we have started PLAYTIN. We are not one of those countless ponzi sites that can announce a restart every 2 days.

To be honest, I think that exactly this assumption that a service/member that does post a lot is trustworthy makes this forum a paradise for scammers. Sadly this assumption is even encouraged here by leveling up the accounts based on the number of posts.

Back to topic, since the huge majority of our customers does not come from this very forum we guess almost no one posts about it in here.
About a year ago we figured that the most vocal players are those that after playing thousands of free games maybe bet a single hopping 1 mBTC (min bet), while the others usually bet very very significantly higher and plays at least thousands of rounds. Just run the actual numbers for the average bet amount and was amazed.

So yes, we still think that the average forum poster is either "poor" or does not gamble/invest at all, so why again do you think we should we try to get those?

Anyway, we have significantly increased our presence in this forum in the last few weeks, we will see if it makes any difference at all.

Playtin is 100% right. I learned a long time ago that this subforum brings hardly any traffic, and as playtin confirms, the overwhelming majority plays nanostakes and sends you 10 emails because his deposit hasn't arrived after 5 minutes cause he doesn't understand blockchain confirmations.

Look at SatoshiBet's topic, hardly 5 pages, yet we probably are in the top 5 casinos ranked on turnover. Anyway, to conclude, the gambling section of bitcointalk is mostly useless for marketing. To the casinos who use shills to bump their thread all day; you guys have no clue what you're doing.

Interesting. Well, you're entitled to your own opinion - at the end of the day I'm not the one running a casino so I guess you'd be more knowledgeable.

We are actively avoiding this case by having a minimum bet of 1 mBTC and accepting 0 confirmation. Still we had a lot of cases where customers have no clue that 0.0001 BTC is actually 0.1 mBTC and not 1 mBTC.

Now that we wrote this all, I sort of regret spilling the beans. Hopefully no one ever reads it...

haha you convinced me. ill invest 10$ worth of btc just so it wont hurt if you looseq it. keep being trustworthy and ill invest again next year :D

Site looks dead. Another one bites the dust?

http://isup.me/playt.in

I tried to trade some LTC in the site yesterday. And I was surprised by how fast it was. The coins were instantly credited in my account after the confirmations and the trade was executed in a fraction of a second. Truly a perfect example of great coding. The withdrawals are near instant too.  :)

But there's one little flaw I noticed. After each trade is executed, a satoshi worth or the coin traded is stuck in the exchange and remains in your balance. Is this meant to be like this? It's nothing big but it's kind of annoying to see those little balances be there right after you've sold.

We are glad that you like our trading platform :)

Well, we honor the exact trade price and compute everything exactly down to each satoshi, and since one cannot split a single satoshi it often happens that the trade produces some tiny remainder. We don't like it either, but we are not gonna steal that single satoshi...

The price and profit of the shares are plungin and payting has not responded to my message about those missing DRK. Their forum account hasn't been active since July 2. I just withdrew my entire remaining balance.
:( I wish they will come back though.  

The value of their shares are getting low, perhaps it is time to buy some cheap shares? ;)

I do hope that the site gets more active though.

Back with an update, the missing DRK has just been credited to my account. I can't think why it would take so long, probably there was a problem with the wallet and someone from playtin got back and fixed it.

They need to add a coin from the cyptonote family. XMR has the biggest pool, so probably them. BTC mixers are dead without a good anonymity coin.

The site has been down for the past day, and now that it's back up, my 2FA has stopped working. It works on other sites so it's definitely not a clock error on my side. Is anyone else having this problem?

My 2FA still works

2FA works well for me too.

Thanks god this site is still functioning normally :D I still continue to receive dividend payments of my share and the 4% APR interest payments.

And I also tried to withdraw bitcoin earlier from this site today. It took a bit longer than it used to be, however, it has finally reached my wallet.  :)

Still not working for me. I've tried restoring from backups, adjusting my clock, different browsers, Tor... nothing works. Is there any method of contacting the operators besides a forum account that hasn't been active for months? I can sign a message using any address connected to the account to prove it's my account. This is getting damned annoying.

I suspect they have gone the Bitzino approach, complete halt of communication but still keep their site online cause it's too profitable to not do. I think it's a delusion to think it matters. It's not that the fact that you do or don't communicate in public/private changes anything really.

But they are really hurting the community by deciding not to communicate, not even give any kind of way to contact them for support, definitely when they decided to open the door to investments. I can only advice playt.in to either close down gracefully, or openly start communicating again.

Question about safety: any known instance this site has been hacked or a user lost her funds due to not her own fault?

It seems the only way to send a payment is by writing in the address. Sending to a QR code/mobile implementation would be neat.

As far as publicly known this site has never been breached

Any plans for a mobile-optimized site? I mean, 2014: http://teamtreehouse.com/library/how-to-make-a-website/css-cascading-style-sheets/take-a-mobilefirst-approach

They haven't been active in this forum since July 2... I don't think we'll be seeing a mobile optimized playt.in at any time.

I had a similar issue. Really hoped they would add that feature. Also, it does appear they have adopted the bitzino model, but its best to be cautious while depositing huge amounts.

Seems the op was online in July. You guys should definitely be careful while depositing and playing. I also, sent an email to the op. Will see if he replies.

Do they actually have an email address they've given out to the public?

The OP maybes not online here but all features of the wesite is working. Autotimatic withdrawal is flawless. This is a trusted website.

Im not sure what to think about playt.in so anybody here who invested there or even founded the site?

I want to get in contact.

Thanks!

Try contacting the op of this thread or contact him thru his website.

Thats not working anymore. They stopped communicating. What i wonder is if the founders are legit persons that only don't communicate anymore or if they are worse.

I've been wondering that for the past 2 months, and I've come to the conclusion that they don't want my patronage and I will withdraw my entire balance as soon they allow it. I'm being too optimistic, aren't I?

Not working? What is it exactly that has stopped working? Are the wallets not functioning anymore? Is it impossible to witdraw currency?

I can't log in, and haven't been able to for months. At first I thought it was a problem with Google Authenticator, but now I'm not so sure. In any case, I can easily prove my identity by signing a message from any or all of the address I've ever used for deposit or withdrawal, which I shouldn't have to since I have my password and 2FA secret, but there's no way to contact anybody at the site besides this thread, which they're not active in. There's definitely somebody actively maintaining the site, since the domain was recently renewed, but whoever they are they don't seem to give a shit about their customers.

I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I currently have a rather large sum of bitcoins stored on the site, so the more sinister explanation is that they're stealing from high roller's accounts while letting everyone else play as normal so that the majority of players don't suspect anything is wrong. Hanlon's razor suggests I shouldn't worry (at least about that), but Hanlon's razor doesn't always apply to Bitcoin sites.

This week I finally sold my shares on the site, and the withdrawal did go through just fine, however my investment is 1/5 of what it was...

I bought 200 shares. At that time support was quite supportive. It was really stupid of course because i don't know who they are. Investing on feelings are always stupid. At one point the profits dropped constantly. Week after week. I tried to contact them and ask what's going on but they did not react anymore. At the end i sold and lost a lot of money by doing so. The profit simply went down linearly so i thought they will be at zero soon and i tried to safe some of my funds by selling since there were buy orders. A couple of days later the downward trend stopped completely. So i wondered if this downtrend was real to begin with.

I think the founders might be real since the support discussed with me about improvements over some time. But at that point i wondered if the site was real or if maybe everything was done only for my investment. Because i don't even know another investor and the downward trend stopped when i had sold.

The thing is, my coins aren't spent. They are still there in the house. So i want to speak with them.

I'm surprised you people didn't try to sell when the price trend reached it's peak.

I actually bought near the peak.

Another investor here. ;)

Sad how some games die out here=/

Oh, a lucky one. :) I invested because of the high yearly yield. So yes, it was at the peak too. Unfortunately i bought without the needed precautions.

Do you have any info about the owners? Do you know a founder or something? I still hope to get in contact since my coins should still be there. Its not a business where you have to spend the coins, they only lie in the house to look good. It would be good to get in contact with someone in charge and find out they are honest persons that only had some bad luck. I don't know what to think about the whois: http://playt.in.ipaddress.com/

Does it mean the whois is private or that we know the owners? If the first case, what do you think is the chance to find out who the owners are? I think at the time they communicated they were nice enough to see the chance that they are no outright scammers. I want to try to speak with them at least.

Zyrio, how accurate is the info from ipaddress.com/? It says the domain'S Expiration Date is 09/26/2014...

That can't be right... for me it's showing 09/26/2015 as the expiration date. Based in Austria.

Registered by 'Jeremiah Haselberg' of 'PiratePoint Ltd'.

Yes, the domain updated date was 09/26/2014 and already extended for one more year.

The website itself is still working. Today I login and still getting daily dividend payments of my little share. That means the website is still generating daily profits. However, the dividend payments are indeed too low for those bought their shares near the peak...

Does anyone know if Jeremiah Haselberg from Piratepoint is a real person? Or a alias for a hidden whois? When googling this this website comes up: http://website.informer.com/Jeremiah+Haselberg+PiratePoint+Ltd..html This once was linked in one of their threads too and the owner laughed about what website he owns according to this. So i think thats only an alias.

Yes, the website is still working. Thats why i see the chance that the founders might be honest persons that only stopped communicating. The problem is they made sure not to be found and explained it with the type of business they run. He claimed it wouldnt even matter when the domain is killed because they would host it on another one simply. That sounds to me like they made sure that they can't be found, they could register a new domain and host things there. If they could be found in person via the domain then they could not do this in the case an authority does not like their business.

In fact im not convinced that they are a scam. There is the chance that a really big player went away and that the profit dropped because of that. At least i think he once mentioned something like a very big player on the site. They calculated profit with some algorithm so that profit spikes were flatted out. Thats why its theoretically possible that a big player went away and the profits dropped linearly from that time.

What i don't like is that they stopped communicating once profits went down. Though that happens with other ventures too. Another thing that looks a bit strange is that the profit drop stopped after i sold my shares. Maybe that was the timeframe they used to flatten out profits over time. The profits now are even lower but it looks like the website is still working.

If they would be a scam then i would think they would stop all things at some point. But it looks like the website is still working fine.

Regardless of how it is. I want to get in contact with the founders and shareholders. I hope i can speak with the founders. If now i want to connect with shareholders.

I think the only reason the profits could have gone down by that much is the fact that they went awol...

But wouldn't it make more sense they stopped everything completely? I don't think that still many will hope that things get better now. Why let it run if they don't run it still? Others claim they still can withdraw their coins. So the site is still functional. All scams stopped working completely. So i don't see much sense in the fact they still run the site. It would only raise the chance of getting found. So it looks to me more like they are legit but stopped communicating because of the problems. Maybe they got many bad emails.

Wishful thinking maybe but it doesn't yet meet my expectations of a scam fully.

Well, I've emailed PiratePoint (the domain registrant), since they're apparently the last people to successfully communicate with them, telling them to relay my messages to them. It's a long shot, but it's literally the only contact information I have. If I don't get a satisfactory response, I think I can safely say I've been scammed.

Don't give up just yet, this is also going to be a longshot but I think you should try contacting websites that have writen about playtin. Most of those websites require a fee to write a review and there should have been some short of communication in order to achieve that. You'll find such websites simply by googling "playtin".

Yes sounds like a good strategy! I used to work for a site that publishes reviews an we always kept our client's contacts.

because My English is bad so I really don't know what is "Exchange Wallet Trading" ? Please help me explain it ! Thanks

Why is it called "Exchange Wallet Trading" it looks like an ordinary gambling site?
When I read the title of OP I assumed that it was a mix between a gambling site and a altcoin exchange.
Little confusing if you ask me.

If you look inside, it is also an exchange. You can exchange BTC for LTC, DOGE, DRK, amongst other coins. Also of course there is wallets for those altcoins too. ;)

such a long time since the admins have shown any signs of life, yet the dividends are shooting up so high again.

Well, they scammed me good. Maybe they look for the next stupid who buys many shares.  >:(

I cant believe i was that stupid to trust them.

Something of the sort happened to me a couple of years ago. Generally if you do not want to be scammed you should be more careful.

Well, playtin doesn't fit the definition of a scam perfectly. Many people that lost money through them forgot their quick account creation URL or something like that.

I had some coins deposited there after they had gone awol. The deposit didn't even show up in my account probably because they hadn't maintained the daemons. Somehow it got fixed and I was able to withdraw.

Although the fact that the payout of the dividends is so high again seems pretty unreal now that the devs are awol for so long. So my advice would be to stay away, it's risky to put coins there as long as we don't get any signs that someone maintains the service.

Despite the fact that the admins have gone AWOL for quite some time now, their site never stopped working and I have been playing on there since the beginning. As long as you don't lose your account info, you are fine imo.

They always have pay out within seconds, even big amounts like 30 BTC, I know other casinos stall big payments and sometimes you have to almost beg them to pay you.
I also get interest on my bitcoin for just keeping them there, so thats every few hours free risk free bitcoin (its not bankroll related, its just interest on the side).
They have one thing going against that, and that is communication, but besides that to me its one of the most trustable casinos so far in BTC, just by track record of paying out.

Yeah, I guess it's normal to expect some sort of payment delay but generally if the casino is a good one they should try to please their clients not torment them!

anybody knows what the average delay is? I mean among bitcoin casinos.

Withdrawal delay? Well if the balance you request is in their hotwallet there should be zero delay. :P

Yes it should be like this in principle. And by the way sometimes there are deposit delays as well on some sites. Perhaps it's due to payment processing issues of some sort.

hmm or maybe some unconscientious casinos decide case by case.

Did you get an answer from them?

Piratepoint are always slow with answers.

I hope this will change though.

If Admin has gone then how the site is up even now ? I visited this site and all seems good like speed,connection and account creation. I don't understand who is paying for the hosting ? or may be they had yearly hosting plan . This sounds logically correct.

They simply let it run i think. Similar to kumala who let cryptostocks.com run but isn't doing any support anymore. You don't want to have any trouble with the site because you won't get help most probably.

does this site almost look like shapeshift?

because when we playing or gambling we can auto withdraw or convert our withdrawal to another altcoin??

if that true well thats great..

hmm yearly hosting can be pretty expensive. So I've heard.

However I consider it highly improbable that the admin is abusing the players in some way.

Probably it's something about their average time for response which is obviously not too good.

Anyway they should attempt to improve their service.

Nope. It seems that as soon as you deposit a few hundred coins, they lock you out and cease all communications. On a sliding scale of incompetence versus malevolence, I have to call it a scam.

Thats definitely not the case. When i bought in i was speaking with them quite often and suggested changes that they tried to build in too. Though at the time things went "claimed" bad, they stopped communicating totally. I had to believe they ran and let the casino run in order to let it look like they are still there. They never communicated again.


I think i have to agree. Maybe the profits can rise now because they only have to pay "profits" to themselfes practically, so that its easy to fake one.

It's always easy to fake when it comes to gambling. ;)