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President Obama made a single, vague reference to “evil” during his prepared remarks in Hiroshima: “We may not be able to eliminate man’s capacity to do evil, so nations and the alliances that we form must possess the means to defend ourselves. But among those nations like my own that hold nuclear stockpiles, we must have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without them.”

He spoke at length about the horrors experienced by the populace of Hiroshima:

    We stand here in the middle of this city and force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell. We force ourselves to feel the dread of children confused by what they see. We listen to a silent cry. We remember all the innocents killed across the arc of that terrible war and the wars that came before and the wars that would follow.

    Mere words cannot give voice to such suffering. But we have a shared responsibility to look directly into the eye of history and ask what we must do differently to curb such suffering again.

“Let all the souls here rest in peace, for we shall not repeat the evil,” he said, when reading the inscription on a monument at the Peace Memorial Park.

He somehow forgot to mention the evils perpetrated by Imperial Japan or the unspeakable suffering it inflicted upon POWs and civilians who fell into its clutches.

Let’s correct that oversight, to help the President understand why moral equivalence is the dim refuge of lazy minds, and equating American troops with the Axis forces they defeated is an outrage.

Pearl Harbor

We can start with the one everybody knows about: the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. That was a war crime, Mr. Obama, as very clearly stated in the relevant international laws of the day. It was accompanied by equally illegal bombings against Singapore, Hong Kong, and the Philippines, as part of a very deliberate Japanese strategy. In Hiroshima, Obama’s sole criticism of the Empire of Japan was some mumbled mush about “mistakes of the past,” and that wasn’t even exclusively directed at the Japanese. Nothing they did was a mistake.


Mr. Obama, who claims to be a lawyer and devotee of international law, may be interested to know that every single one of the 3,581 casualties at Pearl Harbor (according to the National WWII Museum tally) were considered non-combatants, including the 2,403 military personnel who were killed, because Japan did not declare war before the attack. If it happened today, it would be rightly denounced as a terrorist attack.

The Bataan Death March

Here’s another one every American school kid should know about: the Bataan Death March. There was no swift death for the thousands of Americans and Filipinos under siege by Japanese forces in the Philippines. They were already sick and starving when they surrendered to the Japanese.

In an act of pure, deliberate sadism, because they were enraged by stiff American resistance during the siege, the Japanese forced their prisoners to march a hundred miles to a prison camp on foot. Many of the prisoners were killed out of hand, including anyone who dared to ask for water… and anyone who collapsed from dehydration. POWs reported Japanese soldiers taking away their meager supply of water and feeding it to horses while they watched. Starving men were tortured with false offers of food. Prisoners who accepted gifts of food from civilians along the route were murdered.

Some were murdered merely for possessing Japanese items, including currency. They were killed by beheading and run through with bayonets, as well as gunshots. Bayonet victims died from orgies of frenzied stabbing, not clean and swift impalement. Some of the captives were reportedly driven insane by exposure to the sun.  They were also crammed into barbed-wire pens were malaria, dengue fever, dysentery, and other diseases ran wild.

It has been estimated that between 5,000 and 11,000 of Japan’s prisoners were killed during the Bataan Death March. That wasn’t the only death march the Empire perpetrated, either. The prisoners of Sandakan were subjected to multiple forced marches, once the Japanese lost interest in using them as slave labor. By the time they were finished, only six of the original 2,390 prisoners were still alive.

One of the Japanese torture methods recounted by survivors of Sandakan involved pouring water down a prisoner’s throat until his stomach became distended, and then kicking him in the stomach.

About half of Japan’s captives in the Pacific died before the end of the war. Brave men who survived the experience spent the rest of their lives refusing to talk about what they went through.

The Rape of Nanking

Citizen of the World Barack Obama doesn’t much care for the idea of “American exceptionalism,” so he might want to consider the atrocities Imperial Japan perpetrated against the people of other countries, too. In Bataan and other POW atrocities, for example, the Japanese were even more brutal toward Filipinos than Americans. China, of course, still remembers the Rape of Nanking.

That was a literal rape, involving up to 80,000 sexual assaults. The once-prosperous city of Nanking, capital of Nationalist China at the time, was laid waste. Japanese conquerors murdered men, women, and children by the thousands, leaving bodies piled up along the streets. The Yangtze River turned red from all the blood.

The death toll ran into the hundreds of thousands, leaving some modern observers to speak of genocide. The exact body count remains a matter of political dispute between Japan and China to this day. The figure generally accepted at post-war trials was over 200,000, but some think the total number is closer to 400,000.

Imperial Japan approached its Chinese foes with the same strategy ISIS uses against its enemies today: maximum carnage and savagery, to terrorize the foe into submission. They used some of the exact same methods ISIS does, including burning captives alive, beheading them, and burying them alive in slaughter pits.


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/27/war-crimes-imperial-japan-lesson-moral-equivalence-mr-obama/

If targeting the civilian population of an entire city with a nuclear bomb, and incinerating tens of thousands of men, women, and children in the process, is not worthy of an apology then ‘humanity’ has become a word without meaning.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/344616-us-obama-war-hiroshima-japan/


And this following statement makes me want to puke.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/05/24/remarks-president-obama-address-people-vietnam

@OP

Do i understand correct that you are saying the use of nuclear bombs is fine because the empire of japan was evil? Like raping a rapist, torturing a torturer, killing a murderer?
(It is just a rhetorical question if you didnt realize)

Oh and btw. the USA has done much better with incendiary bombs in japan, korea and vietnam.


Imho apart from the fact that the USA always ignores what the quote says obamas whole vietnam speech was really good dont you think?

Edit

If you think about it a bit deeper it seems a nuclear strike against the US is inevitable x_+

Cannibalism and Medical Experiments

Imperial Japan was infamous for torturing and killing its prisoners, in defiance of all international laws. Sometimes execution was the best-case scenario for its prisoners.

In the 1990s, documents were uncovered that described widespread cannibalism by Japanese troops. The Japanese academic who collected these papers, Toshiyuki Tanaka, said the cannibalism was not primarily due to a shortage of food, but “to consolidate the group feeling of the troops.”

Tanaka documented at least 100 cases of cannibalism against Australian and Indian soldiers, and forced laborers in New Guinea, plus evidence of more such atrocities in the Philippines.

“A Pakistani, who was captured when Japan overran Singapore and taken to New Guinea, testified that in his area Japanese soldiers killed and ate one prisoner a day for ‘about 100’ days. The corporal said he saw flesh being cut from prisoners who were still alive,” reported the UK Telegraph in 1992.

A later Telegraph article cites research that suggests that four of the eight American airmen captured after bombing raids on Chichi Jima island, south of Tokyo, were cannibalized after all eight were tortured and executed with swords, bayonets, and bamboo stakes. A ninth pilot who had to bail out of his plane during the raids managed to evade capture by the Japanese. His name was Lt. George Bush.

Imperial Japan also conducted horrifying medical experiments on its prisoners, including the removal of their organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia. Some of these crimes were concealed with false claims by the Japanese government that American test subjects had been transferred to Hiroshima as POWs and vaporized in the atomic bomb blast.

The now-infamous Imperial Army Unit 731 conducted medical experiments on thousands of POWs and civilians, including chemical and biological warfare research. These weren’t just laboratory experiments – they field-tested “plague bombs” on Chinese towns. Plans were made to deploy these biological weapons against American cities with balloons and kamikaze attacks. Imperial Japan was very interested in developing and using weapons of mass destruction.

A veteran of Unit 731 recounted the story of vivisecting a live Chinese prisoner in 1995, as recounted by the New York Times:

    The fellow knew that it was over for him, and so he didn’t struggle when they led him into the room and tied him down. But when I picked up the scalpel, that’s when he began screaming.

    I cut him open from the chest to the stomach, and he screamed terribly, and his face was all twisted in agony. He made this unimaginable sound, he was screaming so horribly. But then finally he stopped. This was all in a day’s work for the surgeons, but it really left an impression on me because it was my first time.

Unit 731’s headquarters was straight out of a horror movie, with pieces of POW displayed in jars labeled by their nationality.



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The article is about how 0bama is not reminding the world of the imperial atrocities, how China and South Korea are really mad about this. Maybe their sufferings count less because the way their victims died was less impressive, or more, shall say, conventional?

One atomic bomb did not stop the war. Two did. America was the first to use it, beating Japan and Germany, both hard at work trying to build one themselves...

Is it more humane to die in a flash among 400 000 citizens, or kill 400 000 citizens slowly, and even eating some of them?

You tell me.

This article is about History. The full history. 0bama was saying Japan was not responsible and he was sorry on the behalf of all the people killed, tortured or eaten alive by some of the imperial soldiers.

No one is safe from a dirty bomb. Although it is easier to carry one on a back of a donkey called "ba ta clan" across europe, than across an ocean all the way to the east or west coast I believe...

Maybe you should fact check in some history books wilikion, seems you have no clue about the historical and military background of the pacific war.

I will give you a short introduction:

1. UDSSR was preparing the invasion of mainland japan - US intervention wasn't even needed.

2. The military-industrial complex of japan was nearly completely destroyed same as their overall industry.

3. Japan had nearly no war important resources left ( mainly fuel, food, arms and land/air/sea vehicles )

To summarize: they had nothing left.

Still the US decided to use one atomic bomb on 6. August 1945 and 3 days later a second atomic bomb.

Also the use of the atomic bomb by the US was decided before the Allies sent an ultimatum of surrender to imperial japan which imho is a good clue why the US used the atomic bomb:

As a real life test in a war and much more important as a display of power to the sowjets.

It has nothing to do with saving american or japanese lifes. A legend for the sheeples - like the vietnam war that was lost at home; just another "Dolchstoß-Legende".

The JAPS killed my great uncles Tortured them..My gran mother would have tears running down her face when ever she watch a war movie about the JAPS and she would say..
Those bastards were so evil i hate them so much and i am glad USA dropped the bomb on them.
Killed my brothers them bastards and the worst was they tortured them both..
Plenty of British soldiers got tortured by these Japs..

Time as passed and they are very nice people..LETS FORGIVE AND FORGET..
Sad to say but the bomb done them the world of good..And saved a long bloody battle..It saved many U.S.A and UK soldiers lives plus changed the Japs way of thinking for the good..

Nice gesture to say were sorry..Keeps the special bond going..
2 wrongs don't make a right in this case..And i lost my great uncles.. all is forgiven.
Nice people now..

Or maybe he isn't doing it because that would remind everyone that america benefited from some of those attrocities? Like the research from unit 731. Americans gave immunity to the researchers and said it was all russian propaganda against the japanese. Can't have it both ways.


How about they are both wrong? There was no need to use nuclear weapons against japan at that time.

While I certainly don't agree with any idea that Hiroshima was the right thing to do, what I hate perhaps even more or equally is the fact that people think they can condemn entire generations of children for the actions of their forefathers. The best thing the next generation can do is make sure that type of massacre never happens again, this whole thing of trying to force people who had nothing to do with this to 'apologise' for what happened just creates more animosity.

So, being killed in a flash or slowly eaten alive? I take the flash.

Of course the atomic bomb was a demonstration for the ussr. That is part of history. As much as the atrocities committed by the imperial Japanese army. They are both true statements.

Far from me the illusion to defend the atrocities made under the umbrella of an emperor.
 

He made a bet. He lost.


Japan: Hirohito warned attack on Pearl Harbor would be 'self-destructive'
Official 12,000-page biography reveals emperor's thinking but fails to settle debate over his role in decisions leading to Hiroshima


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/japan-emperor-hirohito-pearl-harbor-attack-biography

That is why China and SK are mad now. That was not a smart move from 0bama. Well, what is anyway.

Sorry but i dont understand what you mean wilikon.

The US coulda have just watched the japs starving or trying to do an all out kamikaze attacks with bambooships from mainland asia with telescopes. There was really no war deciding reason to use the nukes.

What i want to explain is that imperial japan had no means to fight anymore since july 1945.

You said it yourself: Stalin was also looking for a demonstration of the atomic bomb and he got it.
Starving or not, they lost because they started first and were allied with adolf.

"Boom"

Letter from Albert Einstein to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt about the possible construction of nuclear bombs.

Old Grove Rd.
Nassau Point
Peconic, Long Island

August 2nd, 1939

F.D. Roosevelt
President of the United States
White House
Washington, D.C.

Sir:
Some recent work by E. Fermi and L. Szilard, which has been communicated to me in manuscript, leads me to expect that the element uranium may be turned into a new and important source of energy in the immediate future. Certain aspects of the situation which has arisen seem to call for watchfulness and, if necessary, quick action on the part of the administration. I believe therefore that it is my duty to bring to your attention the following facts and recommendations:

In the course of the last four months it has been made probable -- through the work of Joliot in France as well as Fermi and Szilard in America -- that it may become possible to set up a nuclear chain reaction in a large mass of uranium, by which vast amounts of power and large quantities of new radium like elements would be generated. Now it appears almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable -- though much less certain -- that extremely powerful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However, such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by air.

The United States has only very poor [illegible] of uranium in moderate quantities. There is some good ore in Canada and the former Czechoslovakia, while the most important source of Uranium is Belgian Congo.

In view of this situation you may think it desirable to have some permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group of physicists working on chain reactions in America. One possible way of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an unofficial capacity. His task might comprise the following:

a) To approach Government Departments, keep them informed of the further development, and out forward recommendations for Government action, giving particular attention to the problem of uranium ore for the United States;

b) To speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by providing funds, if such funds be required, through his contacts with private persons who are willing to make a contribution for this cause, and perhaps also by obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories which have the necessary equipment.

I understand that Germany has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines, which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, Von Weishlicker [sic], is attached to the Kaiser Wilheim Institute in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated.

Yours very truly,

(Albert Einstein)

I'm not under the impression that invading Japan would have been a cakewalk.

The US was demanding unconditional surrender, and the Japanese had refused that.  It certainly did have to do with saving lives.  You might argue it was multifactorial, of course.

Maybe wait and get 95% of what they wanted instead of unconditional surrender? Or like he said let the soviets invade. By the time the first bomb was used they were maybe less than two weeks away of starting the invasion of mainland japan. Americans weren't in danger. Japan was isolated, with shortages of resources and food. Nothing they could do. With time probably would have faced a coup too.

The main purpose of nuking Japan was to prevent the Soviets invading that nation. Japan had some of the most advanced industries at that time, and the Americans wanted to keep them rather than ceding them to the USSR. I have to say that this strategy was successful. Look at Japan right now. It is full of American military bases.

That's simply not the historical timeline.  The Soviets had not wanted a two front war and had a non agression pact with Japan.  The decisions were made considerably in advance.  The Soviets were already in the process of invading Manchuria when the bombs dropped.  (Aug 6 and Aug 9 of 1945).

That the Soviets were moving in Manchuria does not mean that they had battle plans and or equipment movements in place for an attack on the Japanese homeland.  That would have been a huge military operation.  Since the only remaining combatant was Japan, such an operation would have been joint US and Soviet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War_%281945%29

On July 26, the US, UK and China made the Potsdam Declaration, an ultimatum calling for the Japanese surrender which if ignored would lead to their "prompt and utter destruction". The invasion began on August 8, 1945, precisely three months after the German surrender on May 8 (May 9, 0:43 Moscow time).

The commencement of the invasion fell between the American atomic bombings of Hiroshima on August 6 and Nagasaki on August 9. Although Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had not been told much detail of the Western Allies' atomic bomb program by Allied governments. However, by virtue of the timing of the agreements at Tehran and Yalta, and the long term buildup of Soviet forces in the Far East since Tehran, it is clear that news of the attacks on the two cities played no major role in the timing of the Soviet invasion; the date of the invasion was foreshadowed by the Yalta agreement, the date of the German surrender, and the fact that on August 3, Marshal Vasilevsky reported to Stalin that, if necessary, he could attack on the morning of August 5. Furthermore, while Stalin could reasonably have concluded that an atomic bombing of Japan was imminent, it does not appear he was overly impressed with the atomic bomb's potential.

No.  Unless maybe you refer to a couple of aircraft overflights as "starting the invasion."

I'm just thinking in terms of the massive numbers of ships, equipment and personnel movements required to "invade the mainland japan."  Just reduce it to numbers and you'll see what I mean.

Equipment has to be moved across mainland Europe and Russia to ports.  Ships have to be in those ports.  Men have to be moved. 

Just getting that kind of invasion fleet ready to sail would IMHO take at least three months.

Yes of course it wouldnt have been a cakewalk but reality was that imperial japan lost all offensive capacities and had nearly no defensive capacities left.
The US at that time had absolute air superiority and could just bomb the rest of japan as they did before.
There was no need to rush the unconditional surrender with 2 atomic bombs.

Dont you agree there?

The japanese historical inhumane atrocities should not be buried, nor forgotten either.

Don't you agree there?

Of course but where is the connection with using nukes on mostly civilians?

Or are you saying these civilians in hiroshima and nagasaki were directly involved in the atrocieties perpetrated on mainland asia?

Of course but where is the connection with using torture and cannibalism by the japanese troops on mostly civilians?

Or are you saying these civilians in berlin and dresden were directly involved in the atrocieties perpetrated all over europe by the nazi?

Was Einstein wrong to push for the atomic bomb?

Title of this thread:
A Lesson In Moral Equivalence

I still dont understand why you are making a connection between the use of atomic bombs and the atrocities of imperial japans army.

Following your argument we gotta nuke every nation on this planet and the usa would be one of the first in line.

As far as i know most militaries and historians are condemning the firebombing of dresden.

Additionaly Einstein was condemning the build and use of the atomic bomb after hiroshima and nagasaki too - you can read that in every Einstein biography.
Einstein was trying to force the build of the atomic bomb because he knew nazi germany and imperial japan were researching it and would have used it without a blink of an eye - something he didnt realize about the americans.


There is no moral (equivalence) in using atomic bombs.

You are saying whoever had the bomb first was going to use it.


We agree.

That says nothing of the "Rape of Nanking," it says nothing of 80,000 rapes and 300-400,000 slaughtered, just to make a point.  The point made is that unless the enemy population submits, they will have the same happen to them.  If you want to suggest that the same point is made by Hiroshima, go ahead.

But then what happens to your argument about "there is no moral equivalence in using an atomic bomb?"  It's eliminated.  

Not at all.  Your concept of "no need" runs contrary to that of Allied military commanders of that era.  They viewed the Japan mainland as a tough problem.  The number often cited is a million total dead - military and civilian.  Sure, they might have moved on the beaches and found the Japanese military capitulated, but why should they have relied on that?  Their experience was these guys would fight to the last man, run at them with bayonets after running out of ammo, and such. 

If you were a military commander, and had relied on the most optimistic outcome for your decisions, you would have been an utter fool. 

In the war only winners deciding what is right and what is moral.
Looser have no rights or voice.
US government didn't care about any human rights in japan, they was only interested how to quickly finish WWII and save a lotr lives of American solders.
Their initial wish was right and legitimate but final decision, to use atomic bomb, is really not according to human and moral laws.
But, again, their decision was pragmatic and fulfilled final goal, to quickly finish war and save a lot lives.
100 000 people was sacrificed in order to save million.

I dont know where you have you information from but for example General Dwight D. Eisenhower, General Douglas MacArthur, Admiral William D. Leahy, General Carl Spaatz and Admiral Chester W. Nimitz were some of the high ranked militaries that opposed the use of the nukes.

It seems you dont understand the fact that japan had zero offensive capacities left and its implications:
Capitulation was inevitable even without an invasion of the USA.

Please try to answer this question first before you might want to change the topic:

1. So you deny that japan was already on the ground with pretty much nothing left?

2. USAF was liying by saying a conventional war would make japan capitulate in december 1945?

3. The studies about the possible victims of Operation downfall was changed several times - the original stated 25.000-50.000 victims and after the third of forth change it was over 1 million - why?

4. Why didnt the USA just used the atomic bomb over unhabitated land as a demonstration?

5. Why was there no warning for the first bomb?

6. The use of the bomb was decided on 16 july, recalled by eisenhower, who also was against the use, because he was the opinion the japanese would surrender when the soviets would join. Why was it decided long before the ultimatum of surrender?

7. Why do japanese historians and military say that the atomic bombs were not the reason for their surrender but the soviets joining the war?

To counter-answer some of the comments in this thread.

Japan was weary of invading USSR after the lesson they were taught by Zhukov on Hahlin Gol in Mongolia. That victory was enough for USSR to not worry about Japan when Hitler invaded and to concentrate most of its forces in the Western direction. The neutrality pact was a formality

However, Soviet troops continued to fight in China during WWII and many were taken prisoner by the Japanese. The tortures and inhuman experiments that the Japanese conducted resulted after the war in a separate Khabarovsk Process (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81) over the Japanese war criminals (which is largely forgotten in  the West now).

USSR was preparing a land operation in Japan in 1945 - for USSR the war did not end on the 9th of May - large amount of troops and materials were quickly transported to the East. Additionally, according to the outcome of the February 1945 Yalta Conference, USSR was to declare war on Japan 2-3 months after the end of the war in Europe.  USSR declared war on the 8th of August - 3 months after the end of war in Europe (when USSR was ready to start the land operation), but that happened 2 days after USA dropped the first bomb and the they before they dropped the second one.

During May-August Soviet command moved over 400000 men, 7137 artillery units, 2119 tanks in addition to the troops already station at the Far East. USSR was ready to open 3 fronts against Japan.
http://web.archive.org/web/20101111025952/http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/resources/csi/glantz3/glantz3.asp

In this bombing and then subsequently blocking Japan's signing peace treaty with USSR, USA did everything to leave a festering geopolitical wound on the Eastern border of USSR. As it stands now, Japan is still de juro in a state of war with Russia.

The primary goal of the nuking (just like the American fire-bombing of Dresden) was to intimidate USSR (and to leave scorched earth if USSR did venture into those territories).

Nuclear bombing of Japan is to be viewed in conjunction with the recently declassified US nuclear targets in USSR:
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb538-Cold-War-Nuclear-Target-List-Declassified-First-Ever/

From Einstein and friends with love:


Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara a.D. recalls General Curtis LeMay:

I have no idea what some of the reasons for your questions were.  Some are subject to decisions of military commanders.  Re #2, there was no USAF in 1945.  There was the "Army Air Core."  Re this statement,

Capitulation was inevitable even without an invasion of the USA.

I think you mean "even without an invasion of Japan."

This falls into the category of "armchair generaling," you are claiming something is easy which men in the field at that time thought was extremely difficult.  Have fun with that.  It's more accurate to say that Japan would have accepted a conditional surrender but was prepared to fight it out rather than accept an unconditional surrender.

RE #4, they did this but in secret, in New Mexico.

The Americans were planning to nuke the USSR and China as well, but they shelved those plans as these nations were able to create nuclear weapons themselves. And this is one of the reasons why the North Koreans are trying so hard to build the nuclear weapons and ICBMs. They know that the Americans have no inhibitions on using nukes on civilians.

Ah my bad it is called USAAF. United States Army Air Force. But that doesnt change much or?



Of course ^^" (i think corrrect use of grammar would be: invasion by the USA)


Are you saying this persons are all armchair generals without knowledgde about warfare:

General Dwight D. Eisenhower, General Douglas MacArthur, Admiral William D. Leahy, General Carl Spaatz and Admiral Chester W. Nimitz ?


Well that for sure didnt make the japs surrender faster!


I though the answers to my questions would show that the use of the bombs were not war deciding.

Well, that certainly rewrites the "Mutual Assured Destruction" deterrant strategy of the Cold War.  By that theory (and for the nuclears of that era) they were weapons that were very non-precise. 

Look, I can't answer questions that are phrased to only have one politically correct answer.  That's ridiculous.  

I can tell you this.  The US only had two bombs.  Japan was working on a bomb -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2170881.stm

All talk about massing forces, attack from the sea, options other than using the bomb become moot at the moment the adversary has a bomb, don't they? 

Check out the leaflet that was dropped on Japan.



TO THE JAPANESE PEOPLE:
America asks that you take immediate heed of what we say on this leaflet.

We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate.

We have just begun to use this weapon against your homeland. If you still have any doubt, make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city.

Before using this bomb to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, we ask that you now petition the Emperor to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better and peace-loving Japan.

You should take steps now to cease military resistance. Otherwise, we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war.

EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.

ATTENTION JAPANESE PEOPLE. EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.
Because your military leaders have rejected the thirteen part surrender declaration, two momentous events have occurred in the last few days.

The Soviet Union, because of this rejection on the part of the military has notified your Ambassador Sato that it has declared war on your nation. Thus, all powerful countries of the world are now at war with you.

Also, because of your leaders' refusal to accept the surrender declaration that would enable Japan to honorably end this useless war, we have employed our atomic bomb.

A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s could have carried on a single mission. Radio Tokyo has told you that with the first use of this weapon of total destruction, Hiroshima was virtually destroyed.

Before we use this bomb again and again to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, petition the emperor now to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better, and peace-loving Japan.

Act at once or we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war.

EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.

Source: Harry S. Truman Library, Miscellaneous historical document file, no. 258.

About the japanese nuclear programm:

It was pretty much not existing - although im not sure if the USA had detailed information about it at that time. Historical data shows us today that the japs were far behind the germans - and the germans were a lot behind the USA. Main problem was the needed fission material that japan didnt had.


About the leaflet:

That is the leaflet before the drop of the 2nd atomic bomb. There was no warning for the first one besides  the regularly dropped leaflets (fire bombings).

About my questions:

I dont know why you have that feeling, but my questions are involving politics and militaries at the same time. Im not trying to be a SJW here or whatever people might want to call it.

It is nearly 80 years ago - today we have a lot of facts which the people at that time didnt had because of censorship from the involving governments.

Right, I understand that.  But consider, if you had had to make a decision, lose 100k troops (note these are NOT US, but US, russian, European, all over the place) or lose 1M japs.  That's the way those decisions are.  They are not exactly fun.   

The nature of war is that it constructs ethical paradoxes where you are in hell, period, no matter which course of action you take.  For example, the other side bombs your war factories.  So you move them right into the middle of the cities.  Now the other side has an ethical paradox of your making.  Leave the cities intact (and have more of it's people killed) or attack the cities to eliminate the factories (and accept the civilian deaths that result).  Who constructed the paradox, and who acted within that dimension is not relevant.  It's the nature of the beast.

61 years, more like.  Yep, a lot more information is certainly coming out.  A lot of things have changed, lol.  A lot yet to begin to understand.

Side note, Japanese fanaticism bears seems to bear remarkable resemblances to Islamic fanaticism, not sure if that has been studied much.

[...]
Imperial Japan approached its Chinese foes with the same strategy ISIS uses against its enemies today: maximum carnage and savagery, to terrorize the foe into submission. They used some of the exact same methods ISIS does, including burning captives alive, beheading them, and burying them alive in slaughter pits.

Also like ISIS, the Japanese occupiers were fond of taking triumphant photos of their atrocities, which is the only reason we know about many of them. They didn’t have Twitter or YouTube, of course, but Chinese working in photo shops smuggled out copies of photographs the Japanese government later attempted to destroy.

International visitors to Nanking tried to establish a safe zone for Chinese civilians, but it didn’t hold the Japanese at bay for long. One important chronicle of the occupation was the diary of an American woman named Minnie Vautrin, who wrote of girls as young as 12 being dragged away for rape, and piles of corpses burned to erase evidence of Japan’s crimes. Vautrin was one of the last victims of the Rape of Nanking. She killed herself in 1941.

Also horrified by what he saw was the man who wound up leading the unsuccessful effort to maintain an international safe zone in Nanking, John Rabe. He was the head of the local Nazi Party.

Unsurprisingly, China’s state-run media is very upset that Barack Obama didn’t mention Nanking, or other Japanese offenses against China, during his Hiroshima speech. “The death of Japanese civilians in the Hiroshima atomic bomb attack deserves global sympathy, but the tragedy was of Japan’s own making. Its then militarist government turned the city into the site of military headquarters, arsenals and camps and a vital part of its war machine that killed tens of millions in other countries,” writes Xinhua in a fiery editorial.

The Empire’s war on women was not limited to Nanking. For decades afterward, Japan has dealt with the legacy of the “comfort women,” girls forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese Army. Only last year, Japan and South Korea reached an agreement for roughly $8 million dollars in reparations to South Korean victims.


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/27/war-crimes-imperial-japan-lesson-moral-equivalence-mr-obama/

A while back I read in a Chinese on line newspaper about a billion dollar settlement(I think I had the translation right as that being US dollar equivalents) between Japan and China.  Seems Japan used large numbers of Chinese in a northwest province of China for biological agent and nerve gas tests.  They finally settled, and this never got into even one Western news release.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

http://www.dontow.com/2009/04/japans-biological-and-chemical-warfare-in-china-during-wwii/

Accusatory statements anti-US for our use of the Bomb on Japan are likely made by persons ignorant of the nature of the enemy we faced at that time. 

Also horrified by what he saw was the man who wound up leading the unsuccessful effort to maintain an international safe zone in Nanking, John Rabe. He was the head of the local Nazi Party.

I believe that.  These atrocities went far, far beyond what Germany did.  At least in my opinion.  Some of this is documented in Chinese films.  An example that comes to mind is the early Gong Li film, "Red Sorghum" should be a good translation.  Made during the Communist era and a bit heavy on the pro-Commie patriotic and propaganda, but I have to argue its still a great movie.

Need to see it.