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Title: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: ahmedjadoon on May 29, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society


Title: Re: Do you see reemergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: jambola2 on May 29, 2016, 06:39:31 PM
Communism is hard to come about because everybody above the average wealth needs to for some reason give up their wealth and ownership of property.

This would likely only happen through revolts and the similar. As technology improves, we could eventually see automated means of revolt supression ensuring that revolts are never capable of forcing change.

Some somewhat socialist measures are likely (such as basic income) to appease the poor, but complete communism is unlikely to occur.


Title: Re: Do you see reemergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Nemo1024 on May 29, 2016, 06:45:52 PM
The question should be: "Do you see emergence of Communism in human society ever?"

Because last century there sure was never a single instance of Communism. Even USSR, while officially striving towards Communism, remained the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The closest they came to Communism was what they had in Norway and Sweden until the Corporatism took over.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Lethn on May 29, 2016, 09:44:47 PM
Exactly, every single case of an attempts at forcing communism on people on a massive scale has ended in total failure, part of it is purely because anti-capitalists have no tolerance towards other lifestyles than loyalty to the state or to party, the wankers.


Title: Re: Do you see reemergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Gronthaing on May 29, 2016, 11:10:58 PM
Communism is hard to come about because everybody above the average wealth needs to for some reason give up their wealth and ownership of property.

This would likely only happen through revolts and the similar. As technology improves, we could eventually see automated means of revolt supression ensuring that revolts are never capable of forcing change.

Some somewhat socialist measures are likely (such as basic income) to appease the poor, but complete communism is unlikely to occur.

Don't think that revolution is the only way. There may be better options. At least while people live in democracies and have some say. Small that it is. Like moving to incentivize cooperatives and codetermination. As well as other ways to reduce inequality. Maybe basic income like you say. That should help reverse the concentration of wealth we see now. With all the power that wealth carries.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 30, 2016, 02:28:20 AM
Communism is a failed ideology, much like socialism. A communist government expects each and every citizen to have the same standard of living, irrespective of the skills and education background. And this discourages the acquisition of skills, as well as encourages the emigration of skilled individuals to other nations.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on May 30, 2016, 01:32:00 PM
Yes, communism is already here. e.g. The Pirate Bay.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Kabul on May 31, 2016, 08:57:58 AM
I hope Communism is dead and gone forever. It was the worst ideology ever!


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: tsaroz on May 31, 2016, 10:12:13 AM
Communism as we understand, the Soviet Model or the Cuban model or Chinese, Venezuelan or Korean model were somehow necessary for that country in the than period of time but is already a failure in 21st century. The Whole world are coming together from Communism or Liberalism/Capitalism to a moderate Socialism that involves both freedom of Private sector as well as supervision from the government.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 31, 2016, 06:21:04 PM
Communism as we understand, the Soviet Model or the Cuban model or Chinese, Venezuelan or Korean model were somehow necessary for that country in the than period of time but is already a failure in 21st century.

I don't agree with your views. Overall impact of communism has been negative in all of the countries mentioned above (plus other countries such as Cambodia, Ethiopia, and Laos). In the USSR for example, the communists eradicated the educated elite and destroyed the agricultural sector. They caused social disruption. In China, they caused irreversible damage to the culture and science. 


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: virtualx on May 31, 2016, 11:49:25 PM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society
I think some extreme form societies will emerge: extreme left, extreme right, Orwellian, radical Islam but not communism.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2016, 02:44:58 AM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society
I think some extreme form societies will emerge: extreme left, extreme right, Orwellian, radical Islam but not communism.

What is the difference between the extreme-left and the Communists? Most of the extreme-left political parties are actually Communist-based ones, such as SYRIZA and KKE in Greece, and Linke in Germany. They are gaining popularity in some of the countries (Greece, Moldova.etc), and they are losing popularity in some others (such as India and Brazil).


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: nikrobi on June 01, 2016, 03:06:05 PM
Look latin america, Venezuela and think about... They don't say communism anymore, they say "bolivarianismo". Populism + Ignorance = Misery = Communism.

Beware europe, you are going by the same way!


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: gentlemand on June 01, 2016, 04:05:55 PM
Communism is a great idea as long as you're an insect. For humans it will never, ever, ever work. And as others have said there has never been a communist society. It's been state capitalism at best.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 01, 2016, 05:10:22 PM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

The only hardcore communism I've known now is North Korea and it's unlikely at this century the information technology is huge now ,that every body knows now how cruel communism is ..


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 02, 2016, 02:17:45 AM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

The only hardcore communism I've known now is North Korea and it's unlikely at this century the information technology is huge now ,that every body knows now how cruel communism is ..

North Korea is a pseudo-communist society. The ruling elite are living in extreme luxury, dining on Caspian caviar and drinking expensive French wines, while the poor does not have the means to feed their children. They claim that they are a communist society, but the system there is very similar to medieval monarchy.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Superbitzz on June 03, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
i have no idea about this. i think its need a universal survey. we cannot conclude without a survey.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: tetra on June 03, 2016, 02:00:26 PM
i have no idea about this. i think its need a universal survey. we cannot conclude without a survey.

Err what?

I can see communism as soon as there will be full automation of necessary supplies like food, water, shelter.
Which may or may not be within our lifespan. Who knows.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Balthazar on August 26, 2016, 11:07:44 AM
https://youtu.be/7YIcMrcihvU

This guy doesn't expect that.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: StingrayX on August 26, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
You ask about THEORIES or PRACTICES ?

If Theories : they can be always restored and emerged as a revolution of other practices' fails.

If Practices : they all have limits because of Humans' bad sides and pragmatic thinking => they use the pure words of Theories to use them as an illusion to manipulate people by good words... while, they practice differently to what said


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: igorokavg13 on September 17, 2016, 12:41:14 PM
A political system is replaced by another. It has always been. Though communism and contrary to human nature, sometimes it is relevant. Where necessary austerity resources - there will be communism. But temporarily.


Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: Daniel91 on September 17, 2016, 01:38:20 PM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

No, I don't think so.
Why?
Communist failed completely as social and political experiment.
Just research what happened in Soviet Union, China under Mao, Romania, Yugoslavia, East Germany and many other former communist countries in the world.
World communism as idea and concept collapsed in 1989 in Berlin (remember story about Berlin wall?) and nobody can restore this idea any more.
Forget Cuba or North Korea, when their old leaders die it will be over.
After all what communism can offer today?
Nothing.
It's nice theory but don't work in real life.




Title: Re: Do you see emergence of Communism in this century?
Post by: designerusa on September 17, 2016, 03:12:36 PM
Do you expect the Communism to emerge in this century? I'm looking forward to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

 Actually, i dont think communism will emerge again at the end of the world . i would be awesome if it happened but not.. Capitalist world wont let communism be born out of the ashes because capitalism is still hungry for poor people's blood.