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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: nibor on March 07, 2013, 10:53:05 PM



Title: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on March 07, 2013, 10:53:05 PM
Please try our newly released game...

To play just do the following:
1) Open your browser (tested in Chrome, Firefox, IE10, Safari, Android and iPad) at www.pinballcoin.com (http://www.pinballcoin.com).
2) Send coins to 1GRWQA3wLGL9i5aW371Nd1HnF4QaBNEGxG
3) Within seconds you will see your coins appear at the top of the triangle and slowly drop.
4) Depending on the bucket they fall in you will win or lose. If zero you lose else you win that number times your bet.

We are offering 99% return for limited period ONLY!

Enjoy!

http://www.pinballcoin.com/static/screenshot.jpg


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: SRG on March 07, 2013, 11:09:48 PM
Played for free on Firefox 19 for Mac and it worked fine.  I would have lost both times. 

Maybe during testing you should make the payout 101% or something to encourage people to try it?  Then after you're sure it works you can cut it back to 98% or whatever.

Good Luck!


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: Crazytrucker on March 08, 2013, 01:09:18 AM
Firefox on XP works!


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: haitispaceagency on March 08, 2013, 02:55:38 AM
i won but didn't get to see the thing fall or whatever how do i do that


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: cptmooseinc on March 08, 2013, 03:03:40 AM
OMG! It's PLINKO!!!!

http://www.priceisright.com/content/images/Game%20Images/price_games_Plinko-003.jpg


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: giantdragon on March 08, 2013, 03:35:28 AM
Do you plan to develop pachinko machine emulator?


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: BIGMERVE on March 08, 2013, 04:40:19 AM
This is really cool. Wagered .1 and got the x2. The only problem I had is I didn't see the thing falling down. Not sure how that's supposed to work.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: Merralea on March 08, 2013, 04:48:59 AM
Chrome on 7 works, falling and all.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: haitispaceagency on March 08, 2013, 05:28:16 AM
i won but didn't get to see the thing fall or whatever how do i do that

should mention im on windows 7 using SRware Iron its basically chrome


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: nibor on March 08, 2013, 07:27:58 AM
To see if falling you just need to have the front page open when the system receives your bet. So just open the page then send bet. You should see it falling within 5 secs of sending the bet! What is more you should see other people betting too.


Those who did not see it falling please can you tell me if the Play for free button works and also the bet id (you can work this out from the table below). Also would like to know if the table updated for you, and your IP address (pm me if you prefer).

Thanks all for giving it a go.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: dooglus on March 08, 2013, 10:01:58 AM
The payout is 95.8447%:

Quote
#!/usr/bin/env python

def factorial(x):
    if x < 2: return 1
    return x * factorial(x - 1)

def p(n, k): return factorial(n) / factorial(n - k)

def c(n, k): return p(n, k) / factorial(k)

print 100 * (10*c(14,1) + 5*c(14,3) + 2*c(14,5) + 1.1*c(14,7) + 2*c(14,9) + 5*c(14,11) + 10*c(14,13)) / 2**14


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: Bowjob on March 08, 2013, 10:21:51 AM
Oh wow.. this looks good. When is your IPO?


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: zulzedd on March 08, 2013, 11:25:03 AM
Hi! Nice idea, but i have a couple of questions to you.

I cant see Private key. Here is my bet for exmple (lose  :-[ )
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=14

So i can't check fairness of this roll.
https://i.imgur.com/wINYu99.png

Browser: Chrome
OS: Win7

UPD: Also Public key in public.txt doesn't match Public Key of roll.
UPD2: Ahha.. So you have 2 pages with public keys? http://www.pinballcoin.com/showsecrets and http://www.pinballcoin.com/static/public.txt.
As i can see i should use the first one.
UPD3: i got it >_< I'll wait midnight..

Explain please.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: Herbert on March 08, 2013, 11:33:55 AM
First of all I like the idea and implementation!
But why do you follow the mistake of SatoshiDice and send back the 1 Satoshi transaction for losing bets  :'(


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: nibor on March 08, 2013, 06:12:08 PM

UPD2: Ahha.. So you have 2 pages with public keys? http://www.pinballcoin.com/showsecrets and http://www.pinballcoin.com/static/public.txt.
As i can see i should use the first one.

Arh - that is a bug! I will fix it. If you look carefully the 3rd to about 40th characters are the same.
(for technically minded one has the public key and the other the compressed public key)
I will upload a file that matches. I still have on my TODO list to put a hash of this in the blockchain to prove I do not ever change it.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: nibor on March 08, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
First of all I like the idea and implementation!
But why do you follow the mistake of SatoshiDice and send back the 1 Satoshi transaction for losing bets  :'(

Some people like the confirmation. But I have added to my TODO list to list a second address that people can use that will not do this. Then everyone is happy (even Luke-Jr? maybe not!)...


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: nibor on March 08, 2013, 06:18:15 PM
Also whoever sent 0be8c2b94f8a9edcd882840e36e8f67ce9a3826a044df02ac9c30c53d2e0fa47 it failed - sorry.
Tx was too big and caused a process to fail. Will fix later.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: nibor on March 08, 2013, 10:51:05 PM
new public.txt upload that matches other screens.
sha256 is:9C148ED5AF34872A7B3B919A848A74E29C80EF3671CC40F94DEBD902EAF456B3

return 0.01 to player (see tx: a4ce2d4a7cc18c7be6a43e76eca009a542fb3abe9749647bb2cca6ea45975242)
as could not fix TX: 0be8c2b94f8a9edcd882840e36e8f67ce9a3826a044df02ac9c30c53d2e0fa47
(I did say it was alpha!).

Will leave running a few days then make beta and update instructions etc...


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: haitispaceagency on March 09, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
To see if falling you just need to have the front page open when the system receives your bet. So just open the page then send bet. You should see it falling within 5 secs of sending the bet! What is more you should see other people betting too.


Those who did not see it falling please can you tell me if the Play for free button works and also the bet id (you can work this out from the table below). Also would like to know if the table updated for you, and your IP address (pm me if you prefer).

Thanks all for giving it a go.
the play free worked for me i was bet # 5


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: BIGMERVE on March 10, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
The dropping worked for me this time. If anyone want to feel jealous I was #27  ;D


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: nibor on March 10, 2013, 04:03:10 PM
UPD: Also Public key in public.txt doesn't match Public Key of roll.
UPD2: Ahha.. So you have 2 pages with public keys? http://www.pinballcoin.com/showsecrets and http://www.pinballcoin.com/static/public.txt.
As i can see i should use the first one.
UPD3: i got it >_< I'll wait midnight..

Explain please.

I have updated the details on this see:
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=14

It includes a python script that calculates the path of your ball.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: GoWest on March 10, 2013, 05:47:20 PM
Added to betwithbtc.com (http://betwithbtc.com/miscellaneous.shtml#pinballcoin).  Let me know if you have a proper image you'd like me to use.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: darkmule on March 12, 2013, 08:00:33 PM
Worked fine earlier, but this transaction (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/60144570/9242dccdb14b032459448f1266a505432b10bd7d29b1b5f2e09b96230e2cf2b7) disappointingly locked up just as it was bouncing between a 2 and a 0 result.

It is still listed as pending.  Perhaps you ran out of entropy.

EDIT:  Incidentally, the transaction after mine went through as a lose, but mine is still "pending."  May be a quirk.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 12, 2013, 10:13:25 PM
Worked fine earlier, but this transaction (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/60144570/9242dccdb14b032459448f1266a505432b10bd7d29b1b5f2e09b96230e2cf2b7) disappointingly locked up just as it was bouncing between a 2 and a 0 result.

It is still listed as pending.  Perhaps you ran out of entropy.

EDIT:  Incidentally, the transaction after mine went through as a lose, but mine is still "pending."  May be a quirk.

Sorry, the re-org has caused us issues!
Am working to resolve.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 12, 2013, 11:31:21 PM
Worked fine earlier, but this transaction (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/60144570/9242dccdb14b032459448f1266a505432b10bd7d29b1b5f2e09b96230e2cf2b7) disappointingly locked up just as it was bouncing between a 2 and a 0 result.

It is still listed as pending.  Perhaps you ran out of entropy.

EDIT:  Incidentally, the transaction after mine went through as a lose, but mine is still "pending."  May be a quirk.

Sorry, the re-org has caused us issues!
Am working to resolve.

Have fixed. Part of the system got stuck for some reason and could not process your Tx (looks like we are in good company - blockchain.info is down too!).
I am afraid you lost, but sent you your money back so you can try again:
e3bd427b5b5b19e7ce87cb205d0bba7fc81ee3605638a399502be35a5203ad8c


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: Jenger on March 13, 2013, 12:10:05 AM
Hmm.. I have 3 transactions in limbo right now.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: Jenger on March 13, 2013, 12:11:48 AM
nice I hite x5 but only bet .005  :P


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: Jenger on March 13, 2013, 04:05:43 AM
hmm.. now I have 2 on limbo again, except these have been pending for almost 40 mins now.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 13, 2013, 07:33:11 AM
hmm.. now I have 2 on limbo again, except these have been pending for almost 40 mins now.

Sorted. They went into limbo as the transactions had unconfirmed inputs.
They should have sorted themselves out when a block arrived but did not - should not happen again.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: Jenger on March 13, 2013, 09:37:27 PM
Hm.. what happened to this bet?

https://blockchain.info/tx/c27ad1cfb2e4d9cf401f61b2b553f89407e461204d78784a4b85a2b839bcece2

Should be #71, I didn't see the ball drop yet I have confirmations on the deposit.  


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: darkmule on March 13, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
Just sent this transaction:  9412e3e6b503739714dd81b8f883241671fe02b81974d60d780d1db9b039622f (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/60367926/9412e3e6b503739714dd81b8f883241671fe02b81974d60d780d1db9b039622f)

Result:  nothing.  Not pending, not anything.  No animation.

Hates my address or something.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 13, 2013, 11:28:04 PM
Sorry, had some very odd deadlock in code that we are now investigating.
Coins returned so you can try again!

71 - e7d8371bc118c71ec3237c5d05bffd45c01bfa266836325d0575e3d58b5e4e6d
72 - 65fe2a294ed722354019f66719d4a02433fdb7da2dc96937367f5193a5999d93
73 - be65bfb2c6b2b54d41ad222a53609bb60b85499b897717d442cfeb24faa88e4c
74 - 4d8b491e1dc88524bbc2816968d91b1cddd56413ac0766fc94488ddff9293e27
75 - 94cc5cc38edd226bed46bea84c4704523eca22038c10d835d499ca674a5069a2


Does say beta for a reason!


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: BitVegas on March 14, 2013, 06:23:25 AM
Hello. I sent 0.5 before readying your max bet. Although it was not returned.

Can I please have it returned.

I also have two 'pending' transactions. #82 and #83

https://blockchain.info/tx/91bd86ff76e7ad0c09ba1bfa8b847ae57b13ce604fbbc4e66935af885e0f190e


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 14, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Looks like it has done it already.
a8aa433bb7a6cd402a31008ec4fc8634e113e32303a0e168c8b8c8d2b09355c2

Pending happens when some inputs are not confirmed. We are looking at changing this process in the next few days to avoid this as much as possible.


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: Lajci on March 15, 2013, 06:34:04 AM
Not working

http://blockchain.info/tx/5a209de00ed1c4bf0fc2cd4c2c5ce27a2ae012af3f6f53e0772ebcd34fbc15ac


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 15, 2013, 08:26:00 AM


Returned 2 that got stuck :(
19QS9yJMNppN7W3kGLtfbVJKuAuZtLGZxB c88f3afaec42ba3d10bd046f4187abcf309c8d2dff013932162dc7428a030087
1JCA2bTCSXVtKiWYiQG3PrSuqNdtkGVN2  aa3f18cae29f5554147033658a4dbcadbbb28d958211411142f535d69740df38


Released new version that should have resolved these issues. But has a lot of changes in so could be others...

But we are getting there I think


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: dirksizzlebod on March 17, 2013, 12:55:08 AM
Sorry, had some very odd deadlock in code that we are now investigating.
Coins returned so you can try again!

71 - e7d8371bc118c71ec3237c5d05bffd45c01bfa266836325d0575e3d58b5e4e6d
72 - 65fe2a294ed722354019f66719d4a02433fdb7da2dc96937367f5193a5999d93
73 - be65bfb2c6b2b54d41ad222a53609bb60b85499b897717d442cfeb24faa88e4c
74 - 4d8b491e1dc88524bbc2816968d91b1cddd56413ac0766fc94488ddff9293e27
75 - 94cc5cc38edd226bed46bea84c4704523eca22038c10d835d499ca674a5069a2


Does say beta for a reason!

Yes I was disappointed with this game. I have played twice and both bets I didn't get to see anything. The free money click did work though! lol


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: Mooshire on March 17, 2013, 01:48:09 AM
I can confirm that this works on iPad (iOS 6.1), safari browser. Falling animation and all.

Also, what would happen if we were to send a transaction without a tx. fee? Would the lack of confirmations cause it to not go through?


Title: Re: NEW: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball instant betting game.
Post by: nibor on March 20, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
Yes I am afraid that the pushing of the animation only works on desktop browsers (chrome/firefox).

We have updated the backend now so should be much more reliable. Just need a few more bets done and we will up the maximum and come out of Beta.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on March 21, 2013, 11:13:37 PM
Now offering 99% return for limited period!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on March 24, 2013, 04:45:01 PM

Sorry 1HT1qb89AQGV4trbM42cS66aSua2Kq3h2k

3 of your bets got stuck so we have returned for you to try again.

144 - 34b0729e975d3ddae501d7c4239e6f9abbe9e0c73309f6c7f6b094fc08aaf106
145 - bf8887aefed1f0ef9643f168432713e548aa388085b9164d1f9b376dc0462567
148 - 178d64506a20ca722e27f5428b0c7eb459d308ebcf9981e060dae1e738deaa9e


We think that issue is now resolved and should not occur again.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: tosku on March 24, 2013, 04:53:51 PM
Chrome on 7 works, falling and all.
+1


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on March 27, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
I've been asked to 'audit' this game by its owner.  He's given me 0.5 BTC and asked me to place 5 bets of roughly 0.1 BTC each over 2 days, and to verify that the game is indeed provably fair.

I'll be betting 0.08 + 0.09 + 0.10 + 0.11 + 0.12 = 0.50 BTC.  3 bets today, and 2 tomorrow.

The relevant public keys are:

Quote
27/03/2013:0426d052be7bb661b70efa4b11096e3642eddbb5d14e61c5b911b3934538653f30d44a93a32d8a2 85941420038c02a6ddb38d26fc2216e5732a5fa3f8bbf13ded3
28/03/2013:04c8ecb167cd5a576df881c803df9f1b72f8d20fcffc551efaf8f825d9e8d54986ef18d77d0881b f1392ba83c9c2721d84841a6f540ed96c3b61131aa6b3d7dcec

In the interest of not polluting the blockchain too much, I'll be sending my bets to 1GRWQA3wLGL9i5aW371Nd1HnF4QaBNEGxG which disables the 1 satishi payout when you lose.  Not that I'll be losing any of course, but better safe than sorry...


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on March 27, 2013, 08:49:59 PM
I'll be betting 0.08 + 0.09 + 0.10 + 0.11 + 0.12 = 0.50 BTC.  3 bets today, and 2 tomorrow.

0.08 BTC: #190 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=190) 30d33b08fedc8d4f5f987838509a0a1efae33b21b2f16bda50d9785d0d371855 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63218960)
0.09 BTC: #192 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=192) 69e62c58b3f6a9810c67c40c44ceef2e21d6c5a5d56d470b1179b63674eaa5e3 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63219997)
0.10 BTC: #193 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=193) 3fb5024c93a5a3b8d3b2c3bd4bfb70c257b7ace0263ee1698b2324c7cf79f49e (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63219544)

Probably best not to ask what happened with #191; it's a little embarrassing...

My bets are currently hovering one row up from the bottom - presumably awaiting confirmation before I get to see if I won or not:

https://i.imgur.com/90bCbrY.png

Edit: but the title of this thread says it's a "zero conf" game.  And one of my bets is confirmed now anyway but I still don't see if I won or not.  The site could use a 'FAQ' page which talks about how many confirmations are required.

Edit2: my 3 bets now all have at least 12 confirmations, but they're still 'pending' on the site.  I wanted to check the result for myself, since the daily secret is now revealed, but the description is a little unclear:

Quote
Then the 1st 2 bytes are used. If the bit is 1 the ball goes left if it is 0 it goes right.

The first 2 bytes have 16 bits in total, but there are only 14 decisions to make so it would be better to be explicit about which bits are used and in which order.  The Python script does so, but maybe say it in English too.

I used bitaddress to check that the published secret does correspond to the previously published public key:

https://i.imgur.com/6Bt3Wgt.png

Turns out all 3 of my bets lost (I modified the Python script to take command line arguments, and to tell me the payout):

Quote
# 190
$ ./path.py 59b54e617bd0f7501cb4b635b3f2fd7e9196efb89a67ba32d370b41293135a7b 30d33b08fedc8d4f5f987838509a0a1efae33b21b2f16bda50d9785d0d371855
For Private Key  : 59b54e617bd0f7501cb4b635b3f2fd7e9196efb89a67ba32d370b41293135a7b
and Transaction  : 30d33b08fedc8d4f5f987838509a0a1efae33b21b2f16bda50d9785d0d371855
the path taken is: rlrllrlrlrrrrl
payout is        : 0

# 192
$ ./path.py 59b54e617bd0f7501cb4b635b3f2fd7e9196efb89a67ba32d370b41293135a7b 69e62c58b3f6a9810c67c40c44ceef2e21d6c5a5d56d470b1179b63674eaa5e3
For Private Key  : 59b54e617bd0f7501cb4b635b3f2fd7e9196efb89a67ba32d370b41293135a7b
and Transaction  : 69e62c58b3f6a9810c67c40c44ceef2e21d6c5a5d56d470b1179b63674eaa5e3
the path taken is: lrlrlrrlllrrll
payout is        : 0

# 193
$ ./path.py 59b54e617bd0f7501cb4b635b3f2fd7e9196efb89a67ba32d370b41293135a7b 3fb5024c93a5a3b8d3b2c3bd4bfb70c257b7ace0263ee1698b2324c7cf79f49e
For Private Key  : 59b54e617bd0f7501cb4b635b3f2fd7e9196efb89a67ba32d370b41293135a7b
and Transaction  : 3fb5024c93a5a3b8d3b2c3bd4bfb70c257b7ace0263ee1698b2324c7cf79f49e
the path taken is: rrrlrlrrrrrllr
payout is        : 0

This provably sucks!  ;)


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on March 28, 2013, 06:09:26 AM
I sent my 4th and 5th bets:

0.11 BTC: #231 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=231) 89004a2f7ea6d91b63479f63a498cfdb423b15050b3eb4642a569c1d7ca43c8a (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63305923)
0.12 BTC: #232 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=232) 3a8d4879ae4c4502af922c25ae1f7edc4168eaa719cb2c08a10de0428a693289 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63305962)

Again the bets are hovering one step from the bottom, even though bet #230 went straight to its final position.  What does its status of 'initial' mean?  This should be explained in the FAQ.  Also, my bets show up with 'return amount: 0'.  Does that mean they lost?

https://i.imgur.com/TSQC8RY.png

Edit: both these bets seem to have won:

https://i.imgur.com/XBHQraX.png

the payments appeared in my wallet too:

https://i.imgur.com/sUk2zDC.png

Now I have to wait until some time tomorrow (what time does the secret get revealed?  In what timezone?  More FAQ fodder...) to confirm that I should have won, and that the site isn't cheating itself.

While I find it hard to tell the icons apart, the two bet transactions each have 2 confirmations, and the two payout transactions each have a single confirmation.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 28, 2013, 07:51:25 AM
Mine is pending too, I think I lost as well.

In here you can see the path: http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=234

EDIT: Except the last one isn't shown!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on March 28, 2013, 11:08:35 AM
Mine is pending too, I think I lost as well.

In here you can see the path: http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=234

EDIT: Except the last one isn't shown!

All 14 are shown in my pending bets, but I'm guessing that's because the daily secret for those bets has been revealed.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Jenger on March 28, 2013, 08:39:42 PM
Hm.. my bet isn't even showing. should be #235 for .009 btc

I thought it would appear after confirming, but it didnt.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on March 28, 2013, 10:25:14 PM

I am almost too embarrassed to show my face!

Just after I sent dooglus an email asking him to test, the hard disk failed on the machine it was running on!

I recovered onto another server, but there were numerous issues.
1) The backup was obviously a day old so was a bit of fun ensuring we did not "double pay" anyone.
2) There was a bug in the recovery code when we would return zero if you lose so those were stuck in pending.
3) It has been running on a bit of a duff machine all day and seems to have stopped processing at some point.

But we are now back on the original machine and working on moving to more resilient one.
Anyway returning the bets that lost and did not come through as expected:
7e6cf5205b7c47ad44a7d1b7bde8d412c2d77347c9724677a53f0bfd233451ff
7feb55137d3297084383b29b648107cd6afd6cbc5802c6ac2ec7588ed2c4836e
b5fafb57ba11e80f522fdbdd78a2cd78b53ccd1a735db6a24e50a9b603f519e5
e78a84f72244487423e97d162990f5179d45a4d59f63db4f22842b251d6e4498


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on March 29, 2013, 03:06:25 AM
I sent my 4th and 5th bets:

0.11 BTC: #231 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=231) 89004a2f7ea6d91b63479f63a498cfdb423b15050b3eb4642a569c1d7ca43c8a (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63305923)
0.12 BTC: #232 (http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=232) 3a8d4879ae4c4502af922c25ae1f7edc4168eaa719cb2c08a10de0428a693289 (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/63305962)

The provable fairness works for these 2 bets too:

https://i.imgur.com/vqIE9pZ.png

Quote
$ ./path.py 70caeb2c1850ed813b036f0bae061b6c3aee4e8b7f74280884f2962a2e497fe9 89004a2f7ea6d91b63479f63a498cfdb423b15050b3eb4642a569c1d7ca43c8a
For Private Key  : 70caeb2c1850ed813b036f0bae061b6c3aee4e8b7f74280884f2962a2e497fe9
and Transaction  : 89004a2f7ea6d91b63479f63a498cfdb423b15050b3eb4642a569c1d7ca43c8a
the path taken is: rlrlrrrlrrllrr
payout is        : 2

$ ./path.py 70caeb2c1850ed813b036f0bae061b6c3aee4e8b7f74280884f2962a2e497fe9 3a8d4879ae4c4502af922c25ae1f7edc4168eaa719cb2c08a10de0428a693289
For Private Key  : 70caeb2c1850ed813b036f0bae061b6c3aee4e8b7f74280884f2962a2e497fe9
and Transaction  : 3a8d4879ae4c4502af922c25ae1f7edc4168eaa719cb2c08a10de0428a693289
the path taken is: lllrrllrrrrllr
payout is        : 1.25


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on March 29, 2013, 03:09:35 AM
Here's an improved Python script which tells you your payout multiplier as well as the route:

Quote
#!/usr/bin/env python

import hashlib, sys

payouts = [0, 10, 0, 5, 0, 2, 0, 1.25, 0, 2, 0, 5, 0, 10, 0]

if len(sys.argv) != 3:
    sys.stderr.write("usage: %s privkey txid\n" % sys.argv[0])
    sys.exit(1)

# This is the Private Key from the Bet Details page.
# This is only displayed the day AFTER you place the bet.
private=sys.argv[1]

#This is the hash of the betting transaction (Tx Hash on Bet Details page).
txhash= sys.argv[2]

digest=hashlib.new('ripemd160',hashlib.sha256(private+":"+txhash).digest()).digest()
path=""

pos = 14
for i in range(0,7):
    if (ord(digest[0]) & (1<<i)) ==(1<<i):
        pos -= 1
        path+="l"
    else:
        pos += 1
        path+="r"

for i in range(0,7):
    if (ord(digest[1]) & (1<<i)) ==(1<<i):
        pos -= 1
        path+="l"
    else:
        pos += 1
        path+="r"

print "For Private Key  : "+private
print "and Transaction  : "+txhash
print "the path taken is: "+path
print "payout is        : %sx" % (payouts[pos/2],)


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on March 30, 2013, 06:46:37 PM

Proof you can win 10x!

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=297


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Stunna on March 31, 2013, 08:43:37 AM
hahaha, very neat game. The animation/graphics could definitely use improvement though but nonetheless pretty interesting


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on April 01, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Just to be open, we have changed our payout policy. We still payout 99%, but if you win we subtract the 0.0005BTC transaction fee from the payment. This is the same policy as SatoshiDice.

Sorry for this, but currently bets under 0.05 cost us money due to the low margin we operate on. This change will mean that we only lose on bets under 0.025. We do not want to prevent small bets, as we know this allows people to try the site and gain confidence that we are honest.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on April 07, 2013, 07:09:56 PM

Our biggest payout to date  :o

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=878


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on April 08, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
I've been asked to 'audit' this game by its owner.  He's given me 0.5 BTC and asked me to place 5 bets of roughly 0.1 BTC each over 2 days, and to verify that the game is indeed provably fair.

I'll be betting 0.08 + 0.09 + 0.10 + 0.11 + 0.12 = 0.50 BTC.  3 bets today, and 2 tomorrow.

The relevant public keys are:

Quote
27/03/2013:0426d052be7bb661b70efa4b11096e3642eddbb5d14e61c5b911b3934538653f30d44a93a32d8a2 85941420038c02a6ddb38d26fc2216e5732a5fa3f8bbf13ded3
28/03/2013:04c8ecb167cd5a576df881c803df9f1b72f8d20fcffc551efaf8f825d9e8d54986ef18d77d0881b f1392ba83c9c2721d84841a6f540ed96c3b61131aa6b3d7dcec

In the interest of not polluting the blockchain too much, I'll be sending my bets to 1GRWQA3wLGL9i5aW371Nd1HnF4QaBNEGxG which disables the 1 satishi payout when you lose.  Not that I'll be losing any of course, but better safe than sorry...

Those tests didn't work very well due to the site having hardware problems just as I was placing my bets.

I'm going to try again.

This time I'll be making 5 bets again, as follows: 0.098 + 0.099 + 0.100 + 0.101 + 0.102 BTC = 0.5 BTC.  3 today 2 tomorrow, as before.

Here are the public keys:

Quote
2013-04-08   047adae6270996299210a0cf6cf5292f6d83b1e735d7b311fb32ed0c3e44ff1b88449b0d1bd1e97 359db8d3b4b12e3a2af13b68d30aac32b41efd2680dd6f7e159
2013-04-09   049b27a6245c19c10c067fb1271f1df747fc36036ea2142375e11a935c2652f0e61640e9fcdc46d 59413c49ae76817a0960ca40f68269502bc8cf7bb0fb30f5a21
2013-04-10   04a1b139588308fff5146a8b980fa1d9198140422b15ba0d82a17fbabc3612f5fe0f4ff3cb713b1 8aafaad5d6965719fdfa81fb01b119881efeb41a7c0fde41d9d

My first 3 bets are numbers 967 (lose), 968 (win x2), 969 (pending win 1.25x).  I'll check the provable fairness once the day's secret is published.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: bitcoincraps on April 08, 2013, 09:29:53 PM
I have sent x3 0.01 BTC and no animation played. I have received the confirmation back...


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on April 09, 2013, 09:08:11 AM
Here are the public keys:

Quote
2013-04-08   047adae6270996299210a0cf6cf5292f6d83b1e735d7b311fb32ed0c3e44ff1b88449b0d1bd1e97 359db8d3b4b12e3a2af13b68d30aac32b41efd2680dd6f7e159
2013-04-09   049b27a6245c19c10c067fb1271f1df747fc36036ea2142375e11a935c2652f0e61640e9fcdc46d 59413c49ae76817a0960ca40f68269502bc8cf7bb0fb30f5a21
2013-04-10   04a1b139588308fff5146a8b980fa1d9198140422b15ba0d82a17fbabc3612f5fe0f4ff3cb713b1 8aafaad5d6965719fdfa81fb01b119881efeb41a7c0fde41d9d

My first 3 bets are numbers 967 (lose), 968 (win x2), 969 (pending win 1.25x).  I'll check the provable fairness once the day's secret is published.

The secret was revealed as a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e.

bitaddress.org confirms that the corresponding public key is 047...159 as quoted above.

The modified path.py script I posted recently confirms that the payouts I received were correct:

Quote
chris@chris:~$ ~/Downloads/path.py a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e 76f915a520a2d4f08626ac09c44d989dcab3be8897ec2b0f86d0085c60a97bfd
For Private Key  : a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e
and Transaction  : 76f915a520a2d4f08626ac09c44d989dcab3be8897ec2b0f86d0085c60a97bfd
the path taken is: rlrrlrlrrrlrrr
payout is        : 0x

chris@chris:~$ ~/Downloads/path.py a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e 6e9160988524411803ef1b632aeca900cfe6d103d56daf397f588e8925f39550
For Private Key  : a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e
and Transaction  : 6e9160988524411803ef1b632aeca900cfe6d103d56daf397f588e8925f39550
the path taken is: rlrrllrrrlrlrr
payout is        : 2x

chris@chris:~$ ~/Downloads/path.py a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e 59e3f45d124f8ee347925844b7ffa3131be004ceda442d783cd217fb7884338c
For Private Key  : a689fc22681c15a8cc5330e0c15445a54153208772067dbf95d328ebfa7e620e
and Transaction  : 59e3f45d124f8ee347925844b7ffa3131be004ceda442d783cd217fb7884338c
the path taken is: lrllrllrrlrrlr
payout is        : 1.25x

My final two bets of this sequence are #1098 and #1099, both currently pending, both hovering just to the right of the 1.25x middle payout spot.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: dooglus on April 10, 2013, 07:20:30 PM
Here are the public keys:

Quote
2013-04-08   047adae6270996299210a0cf6cf5292f6d83b1e735d7b311fb32ed0c3e44ff1b88449b0d1bd1e97 359db8d3b4b12e3a2af13b68d30aac32b41efd2680dd6f7e159
2013-04-09   049b27a6245c19c10c067fb1271f1df747fc36036ea2142375e11a935c2652f0e61640e9fcdc46d 59413c49ae76817a0960ca40f68269502bc8cf7bb0fb30f5a21
2013-04-10   04a1b139588308fff5146a8b980fa1d9198140422b15ba0d82a17fbabc3612f5fe0f4ff3cb713b1 8aafaad5d6965719fdfa81fb01b119881efeb41a7c0fde41d9d

My final two bets of this sequence are #1098 and #1099, both currently pending, both hovering just to the right of the 1.25x middle payout spot.

The secret for those 2 bets was revealed.  It's e982e81737fe7c0eb576b1775d632d133a10e6615b698a70cf89f1b20178509d.

bitaddress.org tells me the "Public Key (130 characters [0-9A-F])" for that private key is:

049B27A6245C19C10C067FB1271F1DF747FC36036EA2142375E11A935C2652F0E61640E9FCDC46D 59413C49AE76817A0960CA40F68269502BC8CF7BB0FB30F5A21

which is the same as the pre-published public key quoted above for 2013-04-09.

So checking with the Python script:

Quote
chris@chris:~$ ~/Downloads/path.py e982e81737fe7c0eb576b1775d632d133a10e6615b698a70cf89f1b20178509d b9eda6488ff37856c932269c00ea0f3917e30062d800ea9192e37dca08991423
For Private Key  : e982e81737fe7c0eb576b1775d632d133a10e6615b698a70cf89f1b20178509d
and Transaction  : b9eda6488ff37856c932269c00ea0f3917e30062d800ea9192e37dca08991423
the path taken is: rrrrlrrllllrlr
payout is        : 0x
chris@chris:~$ ~/Downloads/path.py e982e81737fe7c0eb576b1775d632d133a10e6615b698a70cf89f1b20178509d 6d3f90c49349b93af50cba1b50c18cbf9900ce64149986c919f208972f27e836
For Private Key  : e982e81737fe7c0eb576b1775d632d133a10e6615b698a70cf89f1b20178509d
and Transaction  : 6d3f90c49349b93af50cba1b50c18cbf9900ce64149986c919f208972f27e836
the path taken is: lrrrrllrrlrlll
payout is        : 1.25x

This is in agreement with the published results:

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=1098

Quote
Path   rrrrlrrllllrlr
Bet Amount   0.101
Status   lose

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=1099

Quote
Path   lrrrrllrrlrlll
Bet Amount   0.102
Status   win

So it all looks to be working right.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on April 16, 2013, 10:12:24 PM

We have now reduced the fees (0.0001) for smaller bets (<0.1).
This will allow you to try us out without incurring large (0.0005) fees on small winnings.

Obviously this will mean your winning bets will take a bit longer to confirm.

Also please use the second address to avoid us cluttering the blockchain with tiny payments when you lose.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Mooshire on April 19, 2013, 01:36:32 AM
Animation doesn't work on my computer, latest chrome. But otherwise, great site. I'm the one that has filled almost all the recent bets, the address starting with 1PYNS.  ;)


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: GCInc. on April 19, 2013, 08:01:52 PM
Pretty nice! I would fancy a more real-looking bouncing of the ball though. Is there a html5 physics engine out in the wild?  ;)


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on April 20, 2013, 03:05:33 PM
Animation doesn't work on my computer, latest chrome. But otherwise, great site. I'm the one that has filled almost all the recent bets, the address starting with 1PYNS.  ;)

Works with:
Chrome 26.0.1410.64 m
and firefox and IE 10

Did you test Free Play?

Only browsers I know have issues are iPad (free play works, but real does not) and Android.

PS - we have increased the max bet to 0.5BTC.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Mooshire on April 20, 2013, 11:12:42 PM
Works fine on free play for me, and ironically was using my ipad to watch the bets because it worked on mine.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on April 30, 2013, 09:42:40 PM
Glad it works well for you.

We now have an affiliate scheme if anyone is interested. See details at bottom of our main page.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 10, 2013, 07:00:42 PM
We currently have an issue with some bets made today.
They never got processed so we are returning so you can bet again.

Below are the returns.
Bet Amount, Bet Tx, Bet Address, Return Transaction.

0.0013   0b5591c29bcc8c47e4fcd613684612c666be619ccb4d8cfcb34c305eeec195f7   18eTARR77uicDfYb2Xb4TMcRrjWt88cXkZ   e1ea5c6e7644a1627c7559ddab02c0d83474746c5951a78e95b16b441404f6ca
0.5   463b57f6091bb7992ed968af5c3a291213a38d08a95c148d5d1bbd64bfe41389   1HT1qb89AQGV4trbM42cS66aSua2Kq3h2k   b3b9e6484148fe37f0f0b25a35e1b0abee91f65c36b99f346d3349fbbb55d283
0.1   d780c87bee146e2d4237a107727953c3bd8f80e38eb3d0574ed03a009d3a34d6   1HT1qb89AQGV4trbM42cS66aSua2Kq3h2k   9ead56f31db147eace67a404a7ef8cec6a3ef64f15797ed8e87762a64248cf13
0.01   e6a9b890aa48281b5f2d51cd199e92e6561182c105220088d1131f19813a293b   1FWJ1hd6Wk4Gus5JprXvNLKDS7Zn8yoJ7N   2de7d5d6154fa6fc8be5cceee810a13c8618fbc982a0624547aaa105dd8d8859
0.01   ed296d96c623a40aa8c4425482330ffb1372e99ff5d1914f48b2a069ab394925   1FhkCbeUo5DXcvwLbcGA6xQhijxV1ddzdR    9179a16a441b33e91f263aaad02deb4c61f5fadc1869e17593fc064fffd9ca63
0.02   f8b97363c4eefdd2206e90984e7f7b8b860f915cabbb851307039bc2ea58386c   13LtYS2KoqEshUgtQub9oQD8iazxbJJuGC   38d04a4197232bac0c4268bbe18d63a917f5bd888916d5dd75ba7253cdb297c7
0.01   459764ad8ace8863c5a166cd9d3cd05d77511e81277aed3077ae12dac246b69a   1GJvuzu6m44U9eLSTKoiBxk8PQBkHX7vrq   0d99e5480d2f4df928a396dffec8a4086488873fcf087909ac770ae1ed9312dd
0.0001   48f0b774a2a4948199019f7bb94c623ce9b537213f2da5d4b51da782a81c73a0   1L8idEY3CpUTjcKtuFS4mYVxwVCVwvWkXt   0a845714096149b6e4d286c936ea53b1ce2199c425d4a258d2061e8529059a03



Sorry for the inconvenience. We are fixing the issue so this odd failure can not occur again.

Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 13, 2013, 11:44:08 AM
There is currently a bit of delay on making payments.
We always wait 6 confirms before using a coin to pay a winner. Because there have been so many bets today we have a bit of a backlog.
Will clear in 30-60 mins.

We are topping up with more funds to prevent this happening again as we speak.

Sorry for inconvenience.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 14, 2013, 11:53:40 AM
All issues with payment now resolved and hot wallet topped up so no delays should occur in future.

Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 15, 2013, 12:55:52 PM

Max bet increased to 1 BTC.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Stunna on May 16, 2013, 01:16:32 AM
I like the option to place tons of bets at once :)
Would be cool if there was an option to make them fall faster though/Speed up the fall


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 16, 2013, 09:07:09 AM
Had an issue yesterday paying bets 3377, 3378 and 3348.
We are paying manually at the moment.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 16, 2013, 11:55:23 AM
Manually paid winnings:
3377 -> 840beebe46ad4439aac461f7035e1097132afded1d9f2d2739d3f4514b90c08a
3378 -> 34397f5e4405af0bb3d8e9070b588d513fbb626d200a5a12cbbab106e930e952
3348 -> 633d70b8136651bb796b0306973541a45836a8b1f27ba62c1e04ababeadf150e

Another little bug fixed we hope!

Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 24, 2013, 08:42:18 PM
Had issue with Tx's stuck due to a re-org. Now paid- see Tx:
ae9340b0226c498acccfc61bac146792c8e7251901715b9a0b7b306f7094ece4

A few are stuck unconfirmed, but think they will sort themselves out.
If not will resend them.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on May 28, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Is now working with iPad and Android. i.e. you send coins to the address and you will within a few seconds see the coins falling on your iPad/tablet/Phone.

Although balls falling rather slowly on my phone! Will look into that tomorrow.

Please can someone confirm it is working for them, and if not please say what device you have.

Enjoy!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on June 02, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
Has it got stuck?

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=5226

Is showing as 6 confirmations in my wallet, yet it's stuck in "pending"

Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on June 03, 2013, 08:08:31 PM

Sorry we had an issue yesterday.

Your bet did lose, but we have returned your 0.1 BTC so you can try us again:
010c4d353d431a5b3bb627b4cb3c2ac0837add9741a520a74b8a0dedda43e87a

It will work this time.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on June 03, 2013, 08:14:13 PM
That's more than kind to return a loosing bet.

Felt obliged to immediately play it, before confirmation and it had the temerity to win - what can you do?

Nice idea, working well on firefox on OS X (well, with no script totally disabled for the site anyway).

Thanks again.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on June 03, 2013, 08:17:29 PM
You could try the reverse Martingale strategy. You keep doubling your bet till you lose!  ;)


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on June 03, 2013, 11:39:53 PM
Heh, to a degree I did, but then natural caution took over, until in a fit of recklessness I staked the full winnings and more, and hit the 2nd biggest payout to date with a x5 drop :)

Even I know to call it quits for a while at that point.


Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: patricktim on June 06, 2013, 11:40:27 AM
The maximum allowed bet is ?


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on June 07, 2013, 06:16:21 AM
Max bet is currently 1BTC.
So max payout is 10BTC (e.g. http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=5630)



Title: Re: alpha testers...
Post by: miffman on June 08, 2013, 09:05:19 AM

That's what I was thinking!!!!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on June 11, 2013, 12:00:37 AM
The magic does happen  :D

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=6453


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 11, 2013, 03:34:14 AM
WARNING: Don't bid from a online wallet. I did, and the owner says that it's a different address and I have received and already spent it, which I haven't and can provide proof on that.

Losing 0.1 BTC is not nice, my address didn't even show up on the bet list.




Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 12, 2013, 05:53:20 PM
Well, I just won some Bitcoins, lovely!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on June 13, 2013, 01:21:04 AM
Yikes - bet 6643 started a losing series of 11. Feel sorry for whoever was on the end of this.

On the upside, means it must be time to play ;)

Gamblers fallacy? Never heard of it......


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on June 13, 2013, 01:40:12 AM
... he said running into a 9 loosing streak. Still #6719 did the business  ;D Thx to whoever placed 6716 that reset the timing nicely enough that I've just refunded the 0.001 you lost to 1EnqVeRSzX3YQSGQ2eL2eZBXZVDzyjVYPn


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 13, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
I've lost a few and won a few. Should be a way of telling you're winning/losing ratio. I have profited off it so far.



Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: hasher87 on June 13, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
im using firefox, sent 0.001 to the address given, no animation whatsoever, but then i received 0.0019 in return..


did i won it??? XD


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 13, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
im using firefox, sent 0.001 to the address given, no animation whatsoever, but then i received 0.0019 in return..


did i won it??? XD

1HaGsG2Fn6qWjpgSHCsbBVAL9jeBMbszGo if that is you're address it seems so.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 13, 2013, 11:30:37 AM
Website just went offline....just came back up and I lost 6 times in a row.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 17, 2013, 12:59:19 PM
Seems the owner doesn't keep this updated any more.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on June 17, 2013, 10:07:03 PM
Sure do. What were we meant to update?
Also never seen the site off-line. We do on occasion have issues with the back-end processing payments but this has not happened for a few weeks.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on June 17, 2013, 10:34:02 PM
Sure do. What were we meant to update?
Also never seen the site off-line. We do on occasion have issues with the back-end processing payments but this has not happened for a few weeks.

I mean, you don't get involved in discussion ;).


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on July 03, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
Hi,


Perhaps you could reduce the mining fee to 0.0001 BTC rather than the current 0.0005 BTC in line with 0.8.2 upwards?

Highly addictive even so.

Thx


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on July 22, 2013, 05:17:48 PM
We do use a reduced fee for smaller bets. But found if we reduce for all bets can take a long time to confirm. May try again now that more nodes have upgraded.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Mooshire on July 22, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
Yeah, you've about a month and a half late answering that question.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: MattFoster42 on August 18, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
Has something jammed?

TX IDs:

b169519ed4adba5962ed4e527dd1bafc90edf846e29a5659c16cc873e6bd28a9
3222d842c82f73dad22deed1168c2976f35e5e4ccc3ca3607af98ad8e81c4212
e9b7038757d5f0aa9a4a9619e45702838c56f6b7d4892adffb061276426f8235

Are not showing up on the website at all.

There are 2 pending transactions stuck at the top of the list, but no sign of the 3 bets I made with the 3 above transactions.

Thx


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: 18RATTT on August 21, 2013, 04:26:37 AM
Please try our newly released game...

SCAM ALERT !!!
NIBOR using https://bitcoinvanity.appspot.com to steal BTC

read here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278769.0


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: mises on August 21, 2013, 04:35:57 AM
Cool site. I love playing pachinko.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on September 08, 2013, 11:24:29 AM
NIBOR using https://bitcoinvanity.appspot.com to steal BTC

This is a totally unproven and untrue accusation. See :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278769.msg3007827#msg3007827
for our response.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: monbux on September 08, 2013, 01:10:45 PM
I sent a few mBTC to this, got a x2 win, didn't get payment yet.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on September 13, 2013, 10:40:16 PM
I sent a few mBTC to this, got a x2 win, didn't get payment yet.

Sorry only just notice this. Is it OK now? What was the bet or address if not.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Boelens on September 13, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
Just found this, neat! I really like it =)


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: gutshot on September 14, 2013, 05:45:40 PM
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10253 - still not got paid for this one - how long does it take?


http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10256 - this one been saying pending for ages


whats the deal?


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Welsh on September 14, 2013, 11:38:09 PM
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10253 - still not got paid for this one - how long does it take?


http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10256 - this one been saying pending for ages


whats the deal?

At the start the site did work. I stumbled upon it being updated with the owner tweaking a few things a couple of weeks ago. Ever since people have been saying they haven't received anything. Hopefully it's just a technical error.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on September 19, 2013, 06:39:05 AM
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10253 - still not got paid for this one - how long does it take?


http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10256 - this one been saying pending for ages


whats the deal?

Looks OK to me now:
1st was a win that paid:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9dfc30732f0009f8a8d64b6398e30bccae128685180f542e5855386f344eef70

And second was a lose.

I can see that the win did not appear in the blockchain for a few hours. This can happen on occasion.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: BIGMERVE on September 21, 2013, 03:24:20 AM
I haven't been on this in awhile, but just tried again. The ball started dropping but it was moving in super slowmo.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Boelens on October 02, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
Great site! Got bored and decided, eh, let's go here again, bet 0.1 and 0.1, one on 0x one on 2x, then bet 0.2 BTC, 5x, 1BTC won. Quite happy!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: icecube on October 02, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
I always win on this site. Secret is betting once or twice a day.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on October 07, 2013, 08:30:55 PM
I haven't been on this in awhile, but just tried again. The ball started dropping but it was moving in super slowmo.

This happens when we are not 100% sure the payment is not a double spend. Bitcoin is the wild west so there are a lot of people trying to con us!

This is what happened to your bet. Is often because one of the inputs is unconfirmed or there is no fee.

Once the payment appears in a block it will speed up.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: marcotheminer on October 07, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
Awesome betting site. I like!


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: icecube on November 20, 2013, 12:16:00 AM
Please fix your site. The site is not accepting bets :(


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on December 06, 2013, 05:43:08 PM
Site is still fine. We do have issues on occasion but only normally once every few weeks and fix them as fast as we can.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on December 26, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
We had an issue last night and 7 bets went missing. We have reprocessed these now and all is working as normal again!

Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Cristaline on December 27, 2013, 01:40:06 PM
Hi,

i still have 3 transactions with issues:

1st, I have one 0.011 BTC transaction who never had a game: Please refer to the Transaction ID:
Date: 25/12/2013 23:53
To: 1GRWQA3wLGL9i5aW371Nd1HnF4QaBNEGxG
Debit: -0.011 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -0.0111 BTC
Transaction ID: f7d69164a45219abac123bce059717ffc6c1df4e26b43d71b14b478e8ce8fc0b

2nd, two winning games with a problem in the return transactions: game id:
30247 - http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=30247
30248 -  http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=30248

Please verify and resolve the issues Admin :( it's been too long now


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: tennis on December 27, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
this sounds very fun.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on December 28, 2013, 12:08:34 PM
We have number of payments that failed and will fix later today:

2013-12-28/09:23:27.366/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30234 payment not in wallet Tx: d258586d592da57ffb2b2bfbee2e67a3b00b51c30410fb4986e5796373ab5402
2013-12-28/09:23:27.371/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30235 payment not in wallet Tx: be4e539fbf9f1f91e3ed02d32350c2b77dd09ec46e5a5ed6ad17ac93779a271e
2013-12-28/09:23:27.372/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30236 payment not in wallet Tx: 22f5caf35228293d6c5a05608e0e0d6f1d9b2dd684cbecddea13688b8be9ae69
2013-12-28/09:23:27.372/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30239 payment not in wallet Tx: 187ca565ee4ee62631f49e2bc09be4e4c89c5d53d3cb83b3e101ce97940323f5
2013-12-28/09:23:27.373/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30241 payment not in wallet Tx: 04b751b756c18d206bf4fec4b120851cec06c01c9a1ce6f3a3f5d221db9eb66b
2013-12-28/09:23:27.373/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30243 payment not in wallet Tx: a923acf7c4416ffc5003870108bf7174bda93fc7df29cdd83f1d28c011d9a755
2013-12-28/09:23:27.374/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30245 payment not in wallet Tx: 484dc51532627d46578a5147cb09d141160d1861afaa8d7bb357e8af59a0ffee
2013-12-28/09:23:27.374/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30246 payment not in wallet Tx: 3a33a9b064c18eb6bf2a404a7fc070c1efa88563af6f81560c131e63e9687b31
2013-12-28/09:23:27.376/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30247 payment not in wallet Tx: fd004b2c9a14839282af746abdec74b7530d65277353d096a122d1416559fa0c
2013-12-28/09:23:27.377/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30248 payment not in wallet Tx: a4dca05f005bdee4406873ecd70779af24a5d0f953821a8330b56852b369abb3
2013-12-28/09:23:27.377/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30254 payment not in wallet Tx: bfb9b67ede9d1957437f3533b8a4d85eb9d3ed73ba2e8be982564cef57aa1a2a
2013-12-28/09:23:27.378/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30265 payment not in wallet Tx: c9a5d7509fe470bf21b959fa84076d0e25822ae4c7a1bc3030f8a7adf8cfc198
2013-12-28/09:23:27.378/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30266 payment not in wallet Tx: 917584c92d832ee61f8cf5a4c10428196551ae0899e5eb757da16720d5bbecba
2013-12-28/09:23:27.378/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30268 payment not in wallet Tx: 70c3eb6efd0f4db8c9f2fa1471714e1b336796a3a5352201d2cdafdc90f9922e
2013-12-28/09:23:27.379/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30270 payment not in wallet Tx: 44ff54fb32839b3051ed78e4f21f233bdbb3cfae1bfa3274b3a8ce76824a2581
2013-12-28/09:23:27.379/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30272 payment not in wallet Tx: 9f88a0584b11d52329245eef86b0db25d4739409f0d1df2521c12983b49405f1
2013-12-28/09:23:27.380/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30273 payment not in wallet Tx: 71672b4b390e43a880024e8deba7e67329d1f60b3fbf64b9bf4d0bf7dfc1a5bd
2013-12-28/09:23:27.382/UTC [main] ERROR MissedBetChecker[83] Bet: 30262 payment not in wallet Tx: 40cff54a88090b6c150274bb0a3d4591b5499496cf234d2c91f7fbd7b7a60cb4


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on December 28, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Just paid the above bets manually in Tx:
0f43c3d8685dfc5b65e42bfa2a4faaa61a0bd3cfebaaa0775d43d7b2b7519ae5

We had to do this as their inputs had already been spent by mistake!

Sorry for this. We have fixed the bug now that caused this crash and the mess in made to bets.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: Cristaline on December 28, 2013, 09:31:58 PM
I still have
Bet ID   30247
Return Transaction   1bdc3ef710884c0bfce8d1380898e5d8c8fef96eb99b4383dd80f3e427dd4a33
with a problem.

I also sent 0.011 BTC for which a game was never created Transaction ID: f7d69164a45219abac123bce059717ffc6c1df4e26b43d71b14b478e8ce8fc0b

please have a look into it. Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on December 29, 2013, 10:04:30 PM
just paid 30247 manually:
482891d43cc92647bbbdedccfd8b76248313f0fb3e41c6fb85b59ddd1ce969f1

Again was issue caused on xmas day. I think they are all resolved now.
Also we have added a lot of checks to the code so even if we get a similar issue we will not get in such a mess again.

Thanks


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: jhefreyzz on December 31, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
my bet was stuck!!!
see the bet
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=32576

still initial


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball zero conf animated betting game. 99% return.
Post by: nibor on December 31, 2013, 03:41:57 PM

Currently off-line due to hack - no bets lost though. Will update later.


Title: Re: Pachinko / Plinko / Pinball.
Post by: nibor on January 01, 2014, 04:45:23 PM
.