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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: kiba on October 19, 2010, 04:45:28 PM



Title: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: kiba on October 19, 2010, 04:45:28 PM
You know, I think *money as a form of positive social order* are just simply unquestioned around here, taken as truth. Though, I believed that money are indeed a form of positive social order, particularly free market money.


Silent Truth or Silent Assumption?


Title: Re: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: Drifter on October 19, 2010, 05:28:54 PM
It's not only the money, but the recognition. Recognition always plays a role. Being part of something new and exciting, and being part of a group that agrees with you on that.
People want to share/explore their own ideas, make a name for themselves, while making profit in the meantime. Bitcoin is a fantastic opportunity to do that.


Title: Re: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: FreeMoney on October 19, 2010, 08:14:24 PM
There is no such thing as *positive social order*, there are people, if people freely choose to use it then it is positive for them.


Title: Re: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: nelisky on October 19, 2010, 08:24:53 PM
There is no such thing as *positive social order*, there are people, if people freely choose to use it then it is positive for them.

If that was true, then everyone was free to do as they felt would most benefit them, be happy about it and it would be incredibly hard to control them. I mean, we would have to come up with religions and governments and, if all that failed, we would even need a way to control what they could own or trade, so as to force them to comply to a set of rules made up by some institution we would have to create just to make up those rules...

oh... wait... :)


Title: Re: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: kiba on October 19, 2010, 08:27:25 PM
There is no such thing as *positive social order*, there are people, if people freely choose to use it then it is positive for them.

Arbitrary distinction.


Title: Re: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: FreeMoney on October 19, 2010, 08:35:44 PM
There is no such thing as *positive social order*, there are people, if people freely choose to use it then it is positive for them.

If that was true, then everyone was free to do as they felt would most benefit them, be happy about it and it would be incredibly hard to control them. I mean, we would have to come up with religions and governments and, if all that failed, we would even need a way to control what they could own or trade, so as to force them to comply to a set of rules made up by some institution we would have to create just to make up those rules...

oh... wait... :)

You would probably need over a million police and soldiers to keep people from doing what they wanted to do... that doesn't seem possible... oh... wait...


Title: Re: The Core Assumption of the Bitcoin Community
Post by: mpkomara on October 19, 2010, 08:47:41 PM
Freemoney's distinction is arbitrary only if you grant that your original post is vacuous.  It's no fair to say that "*money as a form of positive social order* are just simply unquestioned" if the minute someone questions the very statement he is dismissed.  An individual's choice to accept a bitcoin in exchange for a good or service relies only on the "core assumption" that he gains value in doing so.  maybe change your inner-asteriskism to *money as a store of value* and you're correct-- but only tautologically.