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Title: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 04:50:33 AM
this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!

provably fair not work and scam!

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money!

don't play with Crypto-Games.net!

they catch your bet and change seed! it's f***ing scammers!


SCAM!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Edwardard on June 15, 2016, 05:04:48 AM
you lose so you are saying it is scam? also i remember that lutpin is managing crypto games campaign and is affiliated with it. do you have any personal problems with lutpin?


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Catch the winning spirit.
Post by: Lutpin on June 15, 2016, 05:07:19 AM
Do you have any personal problems with lutpin?
Yes. This has nothing to do with crypto-games.net
OP thinks they found an attack vector on me, and as a result, they are currently playing out that vector.
I'm very sorry cg gets pulled into this conflict between me and OP (that currently seems to be taken way more personal than it is/has to be).
On the other hand, every sane person should be abled to see that OP is full of bullshit and should easily ignore these "claims" made by them.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 05:27:02 AM
you lose so you are saying it is scam? also i remember that lutpin is managing crypto games campaign and is affiliated with it. do you have any personal problems with lutpin?

I not lose. This game chaged seed after bets.. And i catch it! Really scam game.
Don't play here.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 05:28:36 AM
Do you have any personal problems with lutpin?
Yes. This has nothing to do with crypto-games.net
OP thinks they found an attack vector on me, and as a result, they are currently playing out that vector.
I'm very sorry cg gets pulled into this conflict between me and OP (that currently seems to be taken way more personal than it is/has to be).
On the other hand, every sane person should be abled to see that OP is full of bullshit and should easily ignore these "claims" made by them.

You scam peoples. Provably fair is scam too.


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Catch the winning spirit.
Post by: Lutpin on June 15, 2016, 05:29:51 AM
I not lose. This game chaged seed after bets.. And i catch it! Really scam game.
That's the way you used to scam people at rollincoin.com, remember?
And it probably is also the way you scam people right now with fastbitroulette.com


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 05:33:05 AM
I not lose. This game chaged seed after bets.. And i catch it! Really scam game.
That's the way you used to scam people at rollincoin.com, remember?
And it probably is also the way you scam people right now with fastbitroulette.com

I dont know rollincoin..

But i know that you scammer, cheater and liar!

Your game is shit!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: janggernaut on June 15, 2016, 05:36:52 AM
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.
this thread already proven if you're rollincoin.com's alt ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 05:39:22 AM
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money because they changed seed after made bets!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: CASlO on June 15, 2016, 05:47:17 AM
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.
this thread already proven if you're rollin.io's alt ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0

its rollincoin.com not rollin.io..
and..
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money because they changed seed after made bets!

please show some evidence. we cant just take your word for it you know :)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 05:51:04 AM
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.
this thread already proven if you're rollin.io's alt ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0

its rollincoin.com not rollin.io..
and..
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money because they changed seed after made bets!

please show some evidence. we cant just take your word for it you know :)


rollincoin, kingofbet is lutpin.
lutpin grab people and made that rollincoin and kingofbet scam..
lutpin is owner rollincoin and kingofbet!

but i catch this cheater!!!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: janggernaut on June 15, 2016, 05:53:22 AM
OP, can you stop saying bad things about cryoptogames? you dont have any proof to proven your words.
this thread already proven if you're rollin.io's alt ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0

its rollincoin.com not rollin.io..

Quote

Thanks for the correction, im very sorry to rollin.io, it was typo and actually i means rollincoin.com's alt


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 06:17:39 AM
OP thinks they found an attack vector on me, and as a result, they are currently playing out that vector.
I'm very sorry cg gets pulled into this conflict between me and OP (that currently seems to be taken way more personal than it is/has to be).
On the other hand, every sane person should be abled to see that OP is full of bullshit and should easily ignore these "claims" made by them.

you scam not me!
you have deceived themselves!

Now you will think before you write the false



Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: irfan_pak10 on June 15, 2016, 06:27:40 AM
It happened with me @ primedice and betcoin.tm so you will say that these site are scam too? No sometime it happened, if you are gambling you need to have that courage to loose your money. These site are using powerful provably fairness system.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 06:46:03 AM
It happened with me @ primedice and betcoin.tm so you will say that these site are scam too? No sometime it happened, if you are gambling you need to have that courage to loose your money. These site are using powerful provably fairness system.

Yes, scam too.

But primedice have provably fair too..
I tried this too..


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Avirunes on June 15, 2016, 08:38:33 AM
This guy is really butt-hurted from the feedback that Lutpin gave to him .He recently started a thread saying that he won 1BTC in cryptogames.net and now saying that its scam just because he lost 10 rolls back to back . Dice doesn't guarantees you that you will win every roll or atleast win 1 roll out of 10 .If you are gambling money then you should now that you are risking it in order to win and you may even lose even with high win chance.But this seems a lot different as none of the incident happened  (neither you won 1 BTC nor you lost 10 rolls back to back) .


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 08:51:40 AM
This guy is really butt-hurted from the feedback that Lutpin gave to him .He recently started a thread saying that he won 1BTC in cryptogames.net and now saying that its scam just because he lost 10 rolls back to back . Dice doesn't guarantees you that you will win every roll or atleast win 1 roll out of 10 .If you are gambling money then you should now that you are risking it in order to win and you may even lose even with high win chance.But this seems a lot different as none of the incident happened  (neither you won 1 BTC nor you lost 10 rolls back to back) .

he changed seed after made bet..
chance to win 97%! 10 lose in row??? this shit.
this is scam


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: CASlO on June 15, 2016, 09:03:40 AM
This guy is really butt-hurted from the feedback that Lutpin gave to him .He recently started a thread saying that he won 1BTC in cryptogames.net and now saying that its scam just because he lost 10 rolls back to back . Dice doesn't guarantees you that you will win every roll or atleast win 1 roll out of 10 .If you are gambling money then you should now that you are risking it in order to win and you may even lose even with high win chance.But this seems a lot different as none of the incident happened  (neither you won 1 BTC nor you lost 10 rolls back to back) .

he changed seed after made bet..
chance to win 97%! 10 lose in row??? this shit.
this is scam


again, provide evidence please... at least show us screenshots of the bets, or bet links. just give us something to back up your scam accusation. its hard to believe such an accusation when you cant even provide proofs.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 15, 2016, 04:49:09 PM
This guy is really butt-hurted from the feedback that Lutpin gave to him .He recently started a thread saying that he won 1BTC in cryptogames.net and now saying that its scam just because he lost 10 rolls back to back . Dice doesn't guarantees you that you will win every roll or atleast win 1 roll out of 10 .If you are gambling money then you should now that you are risking it in order to win and you may even lose even with high win chance.But this seems a lot different as none of the incident happened  (neither you won 1 BTC nor you lost 10 rolls back to back) .

he changed seed after made bet..
chance to win 97%! 10 lose in row??? this shit.
this is scam


again, provide evidence please... at least show us screenshots of the bets, or bet links. just give us something to back up your scam accusation. its hard to believe such an accusation when you cant even provide proofs.

Need proof? Check it. Make 97% win rate and play))
Lose only..


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: janggernaut on June 15, 2016, 11:21:12 PM
Need proof? Check it. Make 97% win rate and play))
Lose only..

What kind of proof that? He was means did you have any proof example like screenshot (but i think this useless too because everyone can edit it with inspec element). Really dude, stop your lying here. No one will believe you


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: CASlO on June 15, 2016, 11:32:17 PM
Need proof? Check it. Make 97% win rate and play))
Lose only..

What kind of proof that? He was means did you have any proof example like screenshot (but i think this useless too because everyone can edit it with inspec element). Really dude, stop your lying here. No one will believe you

yes he can use inspect element, but if he also provides the bet links, the screenshot can be use to verify that the "97%! 10 lose in row" did happen.
anyway, unless he can provide both, his basis for this scam accusation is pointless. :)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 15, 2016, 11:44:46 PM
Need proof? Check it. Make 97% win rate and play))
Lose only..

What kind of proof that? He was means did you have any proof example like screenshot (but i think this useless too because everyone can edit it with inspec element). Really dude, stop your lying here. No one will believe you

yes he can use inspect element, but if he also provides the bet links, the screenshot can be use to verify that the "97%! 10 lose in row" did happen.
anyway, unless he can provide both, his basis for this scam accusation is pointless. :)
Even if the bet links are provided, unless the provably fair hashes don't match up, it still isn't a scam. Even if he lost 10 times in a row at 97%. The chance of that happening is 3 in 5 quadrillion. Very, very, very rare, but still possible. If the hashes match up (and his claim is real, which I doubt), then he is the unluckiest person in the world. Losing 10 times in a row will happen eventually, like with every other gambling site. If the site is played on infinitely, every outcome will occur.

For OP: You forgot to neg me for making a scam accusation against you with your other alt, HackerBoss. ;D


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 02:29:51 AM
read about scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160574.0
scam too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260509.0


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 02:36:50 AM
who has been scammed Crypto-Games.net too?
please post here..


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Catch the winning spirit.
Post by: Lutpin on June 16, 2016, 02:59:37 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160574.0
Am I missing something here?  Why did I not receive 1.0585 Litecoins in return?  Otherwise people be wary of playing at http://crypto-games.us/ltcdice.php
Crypto-Games.us? Yeah, those guys where indeed scammers. Don't know why you start pulling them into your smear campaign against me though.
You should try annoying the cryptogames.io staff aswell, official thread over here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1058927.0).
Or even better, why don't you just extend your field and accuse every gambling provider you can find on this forum?
I bet alot of people would love the attention you're currently giving to me.
Carry on, honey. <3


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: CASlO on June 16, 2016, 03:04:15 AM
read about scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160574.0
scam too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260509.0

ok so...

link #1 = is a complaint against an entirely different site (crypto-games.us NOT crypto-games.net) so thats useless..

link# 2 = offers no evidence same as you, just complaints.

so, do you have any evidence from your own experience or not?  :)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 06:12:04 AM
read about scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160574.0
scam too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260509.0

ok so...

link #1 = is a complaint against an entirely different site (crypto-games.us NOT crypto-games.net) so thats useless..

link# 2 = offers no evidence same as you, just complaints.

so, do you have any evidence from your own experience or not?  :)

#1 Owner crypto-games.us is Lutpin too..

#2 i said you. change win rate 97% and play..
and check seed! then bet big amount, him provably fair change seed and you lose!!!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 08:20:30 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160574.0
Am I missing something here?  Why did I not receive 1.0585 Litecoins in return?  Otherwise people be wary of playing at http://crypto-games.us/ltcdice.php
Crypto-Games.us? Yeah, those guys where indeed scammers. Don't know why you start pulling them into your smear campaign against me though.
You should try annoying the cryptogames.io staff aswell, official thread over here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1058927.0).
Or even better, why don't you just extend your field and accuse every gambling provider you can find on this forum?
I bet alot of people would love the attention you're currently giving to me.
Carry on, honey. <3

you made big mistake when post false and scam about me!

i will start signature campaign about your fucking scam site!
and twitter campaign too!

think about it. idiot!

if you don't want have problem.. pay me and i leave this idea.



Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: mishra1994u on June 16, 2016, 08:24:57 AM
i think its only your bad luck that you lost 10 in a row in which chance of winning was 97%...but thats questionable 10 in a row where chance of winning is 3%..dont know cant say anything


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 09:41:33 AM
i think its only your bad luck that you lost 10 in a row in which chance of winning was 97%...but thats questionable 10 in a row where chance of winning is 3%..dont know cant say anything

it's not bad luck.
this is fake and cheat provably fair


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: TwitchySeal on June 16, 2016, 09:47:06 AM
i think its only your bad luck that you lost 10 in a row in which chance of winning was 97%...but thats questionable 10 in a row where chance of winning is 3%..dont know cant say anything

it's not bad luck.
this is fake and cheat provably fair


OP please clarify:

Are you claiming this site is unprovably unfair, provably unfair or unprovably fair?  Is your claim provable; if so please prove.



this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!

provably fair not work and scam!



Or are you just claiming their provably fair system is not provable?


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 10:33:58 AM
i think its only your bad luck that you lost 10 in a row in which chance of winning was 97%...but thats questionable 10 in a row where chance of winning is 3%..dont know cant say anything

it's not bad luck.
this is fake and cheat provably fair


OP please clarify:

Are you claiming this site is unprovably unfair, provably unfair or unprovably fair?  Is your claim provable; if so please prove.



this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!

provably fair not work and scam!



Or are you just claiming their provably fair system is not provable?

Yes, not provable!
Cheater system!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Accountbr on June 16, 2016, 10:38:51 AM
You cannot even show proof  ;D nobody believes the bullshit your spouting out of your ass. Go back and go shill for some scammers.


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Catch the winning spirit.
Post by: Lutpin on June 16, 2016, 01:29:46 PM
OP is blackmailing me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1514310.0
In case you didn't already know they were full of shit.



Are you claiming this site is unprovably unfair, provably unfair or unprovably fair?  Is your claim provable; if so please prove.
Neither, OP is trying to get revenge on me for exposing their scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.msg15215456#msg15215456) (fastbitroulette) and for leaving them and their alts negative feedback.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: shirackjs on June 16, 2016, 01:34:43 PM
this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!

provably fair not work and scam!

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money!

don't play with Crypto-Games.net!

they catch your bet and change seed! it's f***ing scammers!


SCAM!


you have also their signature !
seems a doubt conduct ;)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: janggernaut on June 16, 2016, 02:02:46 PM
this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!

provably fair not work and scam!

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money!

don't play with Crypto-Games.net!

they catch your bet and change seed! it's f***ing scammers!


SCAM!


you have also their signature !
seems a doubt conduct ;)

what do you mean "have also their signature"? its not CG.net's signature.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: btcmasterZ on June 16, 2016, 04:10:39 PM
this Crypto-Games.net piece of shit!

provably fair not work and scam!

i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row!

lost all my money!

don't play with Crypto-Games.net!

they catch your bet and change seed! it's f***ing scammers!


SCAM!


you have also their signature !
seems a doubt conduct ;)


what do you mean "have also their signature"? its not CG.net's signature.


see my signature niger ;D ;D ;D
this is their new signature ;D


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Catch the winning spirit. Also Niger, alot of Niger.
Post by: Lutpin on June 16, 2016, 04:30:47 PM
niger
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Coat_of_arms_of_Niger.svg/675px-Coat_of_arms_of_Niger.svg.png


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: KingOfBet on June 16, 2016, 04:46:08 PM
niger

I have new signature!
thanks for new design ;D


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Avirunes on June 16, 2016, 04:59:10 PM
niger

I have new signature!
thanks for new design ;D

Main aim of signature is to promote something or to send a message to whole bitcoin community. Your signature doesn't has any proof. Anyone watching that signature will always consider as a troll and nothing else. Better at this point of time you accept the scam accusation against you instead of creating drama which only shows how much butthurt and devastated you are.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: KingOfBet on June 17, 2016, 03:50:28 AM
niger

I have new signature!
thanks for new design ;D

Main aim of signature is to promote something or to send a message to whole bitcoin community. Your signature doesn't has any proof. Anyone watching that signature will always consider as a troll and nothing else. Better at this point of time you accept the scam accusation against you instead of creating drama which only shows how much butthurt and devastated you are.

ok. thanks for idea, i will add links of proof and thread to signature
COOL!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: KingOfBet on June 17, 2016, 03:53:51 AM
who want join to crazy ads signature campaign?
please add this signature and get some btc ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DCP on May 08, 2017, 06:49:31 PM
I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE

I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened. I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN.

Regarding the original thread, check out this streak calculator tool
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


Put in probability of loss 3%,  now put in streak length 10, series length 1,000,000

guess what ?!!  0.00% probability.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.


Title: Crypto-Games.net - New game upcoming the next week, I wonder which ;)
Post by: Lutpin on May 08, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE
I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened.
Wanna show the bets here, especially the provably fair parts of them. I'd like to see one that doesn't verify as being provably fair.
If all bets verify and are provably fair, I fail to see how the site is a scam.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.
No, proof would be showing bets that are not provably fair. If you can't, you don't have any proof.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DCP on May 08, 2017, 09:00:29 PM
You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: game-protect on May 08, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.
Did you use a +EV betting strategy or what kind of betting strategy was it?


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DCP on May 08, 2017, 09:26:33 PM
You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.
Did you use a +EV betting strategy or what kind of betting strategy was it?

I don't want to reveal the strategy and I don't expect it to win all of the time. However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time, I'm lost any trust in crypto-games website.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on May 08, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE

I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened. I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN.

Regarding the original thread, check out this streak calculator tool
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


Put in probability of loss 3%,  now put in streak length 10, series length 1,000,000

guess what ?!!  0.00% probability.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.

Are you an idiot?

You can't seriously believe that it is literally impossible to reach that streak within that amount of bets.

Here, let me show you some basic statistics.

If the probability of loss is 3%, then we can express that as a fraction: 3/100. If the streak length is 10, then you need 10 of those bets in a row. Which would be 3/100 to the power of 10, otherwise known as 59,049/10E20 (59049 over 10 to the 20)

Since this streak may occur at any bet number below or equal to 999990 (since your cap is 1 million) you can multiply the above fraction by that amount to find the probability of such a streak.

That becomes 5904840951 divided by 10^19, which is a non-zero value.

This expressed as a percentage is 0.00000005904840951% which means that it is possible to reach such a streak.



Moreover, just because an outcome is unlikely does not mean that it is impossible.

I don't want to reveal the strategy and I don't expect it to win all of the time. However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time, I'm lost any trust in crypto-games website.

As time goes on, you approach the expected value, which is a value less than 1 due to the house edge.

No strategy is winning and this is mathematically proven.


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Provably fair betting, verify it yourself.
Post by: Lutpin on May 08, 2017, 09:36:44 PM
However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time
That's what we call variance.
-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance
Or if you need a more beginner friendly text
-> https://www.askgamblers.com/understanding-variance-in-casino-games-n5047


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DCP on May 08, 2017, 10:04:19 PM
I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE

I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened. I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN.

Regarding the original thread, check out this streak calculator tool
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


Put in probability of loss 3%,  now put in streak length 10, series length 1,000,000

guess what ?!!  0.00% probability.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.

Are you an idiot?

You can't seriously believe that it is literally impossible to reach that streak within that amount of bets.

Here, let me show you some basic statistics.

If the probability of loss is 3%, then we can express that as a fraction: 3/100. If the streak length is 10, then you need 10 of those bets in a row. Which would be 3/100 to the power of 10, otherwise known as 59,049/10E20 (59049 over 10 to the 20)

Since this streak may occur at any bet number below or equal to 999990 (since your cap is 1 million) you can multiply the above fraction by that amount to find the probability of such a streak.

That becomes 5904840951 divided by 10^19, which is a non-zero value.

This expressed as a percentage is 0.00000005904840951% which means that it is possible to reach such a streak........



Wow, good for you to call people idiots. You must be very intelligent lol.  Here you can see using this streak calculator tool:
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0598/6757/files/capture5_03333f7d-7f33-4f44-87b4-e5a0e148c024.jpg?10751823140376930383

THE ODDS AFTER 10 MILLION BETS OF LOSING 10X IN A ROW WITH 3% LOSS PROBABILITY ARE 0.000%

It's obvious that there is a possibility to lose at some point well after 10 million, but I highly doubt the person who started this thread made that many bets..

ps, I won't be surprised to see Lutpin bringing in all his friends to dispute this,  paying people off, etc.


EDIT FOR ACTMYNAME:  ok, I see your logic now, it is possible, even though its ridiculously unlikely...  :)


Title: Crypto-Games.net - Where people learn many things about statistics.
Post by: Lutpin on May 08, 2017, 10:09:07 PM
ps, I won't be surprised to see Lutpin bringing in all his friends to dispute this, creating fake accounts, paying people off, etc.
I don't have any friends, thanks for pointing out that sore spot.
Also, I'm too poor to pay off people, do you know how much it would cost to bribe actmyname? Insane (donations accepted to the address in my profile).

THE ODDS AFTER 10 MILLION BETS OF LOSING 10X IN A ROW WITH 3% LOSS PROBABILITY ARE 0.000%
The odds are NEVER 0%. Never.
Besides that, OP is a permanently banned extortionist and they never were abled to provide any proof they actually have lost 10 times in a row, so...
But sure, let's all trust the liar ;)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - Where people learn many things about statistics.
Post by: DCP on May 08, 2017, 10:17:44 PM
ps, I won't be surprised to see Lutpin bringing in all his friends to dispute this, creating fake accounts, paying people off, etc.
I don't have any friends, thanks for pointing out that sore spot.
Also, I'm too poor to pay off people, do you know how much it would cost to bribe actmyname? Insane (donations accepted to the address in my profile).

THE ODDS AFTER 10 MILLION BETS OF LOSING 10X IN A ROW WITH 3% LOSS PROBABILITY ARE 0.000%
The odds are NEVER 0%. Never.


Ok, I understand. I can accept that variance happening in the once in a blue moon scenario, I still have a bad feeling about your site after all my experiences which I'm not going to detail here,  I'll stick with Bitsler.

I'm curious if other people have feedback about Crypto-games vs Bitsler...


PS,  wealth without friends is really empty,  find some communities in the "real world" with people interested in the same stuff.. :)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on May 08, 2017, 10:41:10 PM
I'm curious if other people have feedback about Crypto-games vs Bitsler...

I honestly don't even play at either very often so I'd consider myself impartial. I like both Lutpin and Baryom as people so that too is balanced.

If you are looking to earn the most out of the site (i.e. playing with the best odds) then you would want to choose Crypto-games's dice game considering they have a 0.8% house edge as opposed to Bitsler's 1% house edge.

Now, of course, both Bitsler and Crypto-games alike offer multiple games apart from basic dice, but overall Crypto-games generally offers a lower house edge than the Bitsler games. Purely based on this merit, I prefer Crypto-games since it offers Blackjack (my favorite game) though it is at a somewhat high edge with its settings. However, if you are seeking to gain profit through affiliates, then Bitsler (as of now) is superior given that they offer 50% of the house edge for each wager whereas Crypto-games offers 25% of the house edge for each wager.



There's probably more to say but both are good for their own reasons.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DCP on May 08, 2017, 11:14:12 PM
I'm curious if other people have feedback about Crypto-games vs Bitsler...

I honestly don't even play at either very often so I'd consider myself impartial. I like both Lutpin and Baryom as people so that too is balanced.

If you are looking to earn the most out of the site (i.e. playing with the best odds) then you would want to choose Crypto-games's dice game considering they have a 0.8% house edge as opposed to Bitsler's 1% house edge.

Now, of course, both Bitsler and Crypto-games alike offer multiple games apart from basic dice, but overall Crypto-games generally offers a lower house edge than the Bitsler games. Purely based on this merit, I prefer Crypto-games since it offers Blackjack (my favorite game) though it is at a somewhat high edge with its settings. However, if you are seeking to gain profit through affiliates, then Bitsler (as of now) is superior given that they offer 50% of the house edge for each wager whereas Crypto-games offers 25% of the house edge for each wager.



There's probably more to say but both are good for their own reasons.


I meant feedback between the 2 sites as a player, but good to know that info, I don't plan to be an affiliate or share my methods.. :)


My advice to people, don't listen to the naysayers that its impossible to beat the odds, etc.  Play around with the streak calculator tool I posted, split your bankroll up, expect some variance, you'd be surprised what can result from it  :) :)



Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: roadcrap on May 08, 2017, 11:40:28 PM
Bitcoin is a scam ~ just sell it all for US dollars and stop gambling.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on May 09, 2017, 12:18:01 AM
My advice to people, don't listen to the naysayers that its impossible to beat the odds, etc.  Play around with the streak calculator tool I posted, split your bankroll up, expect some variance, you'd be surprised what can result from it  :) :)

Variance is the only way that people will win.

I stand by this fact: as soon as you place a bet with a house edge, you're already losing. Suppose there is a 1% house edge and your odds are 50-50 with a winning payout of 1.98x your bet. Regardless of whether you win or not, half of the time you are returned 0 and half of the time you are returned 1.98. This means that on average you lose 1% of your wager.

This can be turned into another kind of game which is statistically identical to this type of wager but variance is no part of it:

For every 1 you wager, I will return to you 0.99



In typical gambling, there is variance, but don't fool yourself into thinking you can win in the long run - or at all. As soon as you wager, you're already losing.



This is not to say that you can't win when you gamble - of course you may hit lucky streaks - but overall you will find that there will be a slow decline and that the more you play, the more you lose.

Wager your bankroll, you'll have a return of 0.99 (times your bankroll).
Wager that, and you'll have a total of 0.9801.
Continue, and your balance will approach 0.



I meant feedback between the 2 sites as a player, but good to know that info, I don't plan to be an affiliate or share my methods.. :)

All that is significant are the games and house edge differences.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: DCP on May 09, 2017, 02:14:42 AM
My advice to people, don't listen to the naysayers that its impossible to beat the odds, etc.  Play around with the streak calculator tool I posted, split your bankroll up, expect some variance, you'd be surprised what can result from it  :) :)

Variance is the only way that people will win.

I stand by this fact: as soon as you place a bet with a house edge, you're already losing. Suppose there is a 1% house edge and your odds are 50-50 with a winning payout of 1.98x your bet. Regardless of whether you win or not, half of the time you are returned 0 and half of the time you are returned 1.98. This means that on average you lose 1% of your wager.

This can be turned into another kind of game which is statistically identical to this type of wager but variance is no part of it:

For every 1 you wager, I will return to you 0.99



In typical gambling, there is variance, but don't fool yourself into thinking you can win in the long run - or at all. As soon as you wager, you're already losing.



This is not to say that you can't win when you gamble - of course you may hit lucky streaks - but overall you will find that there will be a slow decline and that the more you play, the more you lose.

Wager your bankroll, you'll have a return of 0.99 (times your bankroll).
Wager that, and you'll have a total of 0.9801.
Continue, and your balance will approach 0.



I meant feedback between the 2 sites as a player, but good to know that info, I don't plan to be an affiliate or share my methods.. :)

All that is significant are the games and house edge differences.


This is the conventional logic and it is correct. However, you need to think way outside of the box. I'm sure I'm not the only person who has devised a winning method by thinking outside the box and understanding probabilities.  And, anyone like me who is smart or lucky enough to create a +ev method isn't going to be sharing it in some crappy ebook. Because if everybody did it, there would be no game.  I can double my account every day in a few hours.  I spent thousands of hours to get here, and a lot of rage and frustration along the way. Anyway, the grey hairs were worth it. To anyone who is extremely persistent and able to use that streak calculator tool and think outside the box, you may be able to find an advantage.. ;)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: j7777 on July 14, 2017, 08:45:45 AM
I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net. 7 spins out of 10, you get nothing, 2 spins out of 10 you might get one coin, the third spin you might get 2, maybe 3 reels. I've never hit more than 4 reels and only on low bets. they won't let you win big (all 5 reels) and they won't let you high roll, they'll run your money out and force you to bet 50 or smaller (forcing you to take a smaller payout). that's a typical casino scam. the slots are rigged to high hell. and for the love of christ do you really need a fucking timer on the playmoney faucet? Jesus man. you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house. 


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on July 14, 2017, 10:11:48 AM
I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net. 7 spins out of 10, you get nothing, 2 spins out of 10 you might get one coin, the third spin you might get 2, maybe 3 reels. I've never hit more than 4 reels and only on low bets. they won't let you win big (all 5 reels) and they won't let you high roll, they'll run your money out and force you to bet 50 or smaller (forcing you to take a smaller payout). that's a typical casino scam. the slots are rigged to high hell.

Provably fair. Maybe if you bothered to check that, you would understand you're just unlucky.
Also, slots has a huge house edge.

And betting big or small has literally no effect on how you do luck-wise. All that matters is the house edge. Whether you do 100 bets at 50 or 1 bet at 5000, you have the same ev. Now obviously, one of those options would have a higher degree of fluctuation due to variance.

and for the love of christ do you really need a fucking timer on the playmoney faucet? Jesus man. you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house. 

Playmoney has value in Crypto-games and can be exchanged for bitcoins in a high enough value. Not setting a timer on that would just lead to people running the site dry. And are you really complaining about a faucet?


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: j7777 on July 14, 2017, 10:29:10 AM
I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net. 7 spins out of 10, you get nothing, 2 spins out of 10 you might get one coin, the third spin you might get 2, maybe 3 reels. I've never hit more than 4 reels and only on low bets. they won't let you win big (all 5 reels) and they won't let you high roll, they'll run your money out and force you to bet 50 or smaller (forcing you to take a smaller payout). that's a typical casino scam. the slots are rigged to high hell.

Provably fair. Maybe if you bothered to check that, you would understand you're just unlucky.
Also, slots has a huge house edge.

And betting big or small has literally no effect on how you do luck-wise. All that matters is the house edge. Whether you do 100 bets at 50 or 1 bet at 5000, you have the same ev. Now obviously, one of those options would have a higher degree of fluctuation due to variance.

and for the love of christ do you really need a fucking timer on the playmoney faucet? Jesus man. you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house.  

Playmoney has value in Crypto-games and can be exchanged for bitcoins in a high enough value. Not setting a timer on that would just lead to people running the site dry. And are you really complaining about a faucet?
5 million playmoney for 0.0009 btc is not a high value. as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin. provably fair is more than 22 5 reel wins since game launch....if it was like 1500 5 reel wins since game launch I might believe the provably fair BS. even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless. also calling your victims "Just unlucky" is a cheap way to distance yourself from your scam.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on July 14, 2017, 10:39:55 AM
5 million playmoney for 0.0009 btc is not a high value.

When you can use the faucet an unlimited amount of times, yes it is. By just constantly playing for the max payout on dice (lowest edge, by the way) you can nab the reward easily. I don't think you really see the problem I'm highlighting.

as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin.

I'm not too experienced in what crypto-games does, but changing the seed every spin is fine. It's also fine to have one seed but incrementing the nonces by n every spin. Either way, you can verify it afterwards to see that indeed, the hash corresponds to the real server seed.

if it was like 1500 5 reel wins since game launch I might believe the provably fair BS. even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless. also calling your victims "Just unlucky" is a cheap way to distance yourself from your scam.

Seems to be like you don't understand how provably fair works. If you knew how it worked then you would realize that in fact you were just unlucky. And scammers can claim to be provably fair but if they don't have proper verification then you know they're lying. CG is not.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: j7777 on July 14, 2017, 10:44:44 AM
You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.
Did you use a +EV betting strategy or what kind of betting strategy was it?

I don't want to reveal the strategy and I don't expect it to win all of the time. However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time, I'm lost any trust in crypto-games website.

I was playing poker the other day, I had a royal flush in spades. I got beat by a full house. not possible in a real poker game, so yes, there is manipulation going on on the backend.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: j7777 on July 14, 2017, 10:47:23 AM
5 million playmoney for 0.0009 btc is not a high value.

When you can use the faucet an unlimited amount of times, yes it is. By just constantly playing for the max payout on dice (lowest edge, by the way) you can nab the reward easily. I don't think you really see the problem I'm highlighting.

as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin.

I'm not too experienced in what crypto-games does, but changing the seed every spin is fine. It's also fine to have one seed but incrementing the nonces by n every spin. Either way, you can verify it afterwards to see that indeed, the hash corresponds to the real server seed.

if it was like 1500 5 reel wins since game launch I might believe the provably fair BS. even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless. also calling your victims "Just unlucky" is a cheap way to distance yourself from your scam.

Seems to be like you don't understand how provably fair works. If you knew how it worked then you would realize that in fact you were just unlucky. And scammers can claim to be provably fair but if they don't have proper verification then you know they're lying. CG is not.

How many 5 reel wins did you have in slots? I'm willing to bet zero, no one you know had a 5 reel win, because it doesn't happen to non employees.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on July 14, 2017, 10:56:58 AM
How many 5 reel wins did you have in slots? I'm willing to bet zero, no one you know had a 5 reel win, because it doesn't happen to non employees.

The odds of that seem slim. You know that in slots, all the colors and effects are just that, right?



I'm still telling you, learn how provably fair works. Here, I will demonstrate.

Suppose we are playing slots with just two boxes. Hear me out here.

Behind the scenes, the result for each box is based on a random number generation from 0 to 99.

If you roll 0-49, it results in an empty box. If you roll 50-99, it results in a cherry.

Thus, for you to have two cherries, you need both boxes to have a roll >=50



How provably fair works is that the number they use in their algorithm is hashed and sent to you. Let's say that the number I use is 7056 and all I do is take the first two and last two numbers as the roll result for the boxes. This means that if for example I used SHA-256 as a hash and sent to you the server hash, which would be fbf0c029676f97872638b20cc6933c5c3150a2f4270d5fdc5f72af5dce0405c2, you could later receive the actual server seed which is 7056 and plug it into the SHA-256 algorithm to find that 7056 hashes into the hash that was given.

This proves that the numbers were predesignated and the result was decided before your actions.

Now if you're thinking, "why does this even matter," then you need to realize that you have a choice in actions that can affect how much you win.

If you change how much you bet - whether you bet on winning rolls or not - while all rolls are predetermined, you can turn a profit despite the house edge. And just to clarify, predetermined rolls =/= not random because most algorithms require you to input a client seed in which you can designate. This way it's actually impossible for them to cheat. (I'm pretty sure CG has client seeds in slots)


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: j7777 on July 14, 2017, 10:57:27 AM
manipulation on slots can be proven. the method is simple, they've scripted it so that if 4 reels match the 5th will advance one ahead making a 5 reel match impossible (for instance you get 4 playmoneys and one orange etc every time) also they did another little dirty trick, say you get 4 oranges and a litecoin on a 10 bet, you only get paid 100 when you should get 100 for the 4 oranges and 11 for the litecoin for a total of 111. they're using a very old trick that's been used alot on hardware slot machines to make a 5 reel win impossible.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: actmyname on July 14, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
manipulation on slots can be proven. the method is simple, they've scripted it so that if 4 reels match the 5th will advance one ahead making a 5 reel match impossible

Slots show you near-misses to get you hooked for visual stimulation. The 5 reel match is typically rare so on the 4 reel matches, they try to get you to go for the jackpot by making you think you just barely missed the big win.

THAT is the real manipulation of slots.

they're using a very old trick that's been used alot on hardware slot machines to make a 5 reel win impossible.

Provably fair software =/= hardware


Title: Crypto-Games.net - provable fairness.
Post by: Lutpin on July 14, 2017, 06:45:44 PM
I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net.
It's spelled "Lutpin". Note it down.

but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net.
"too" implies anyone else got, which didn't happen.
Neither were you, I suspect.

the slots are rigged to high hell.
The slots are provably fair.

you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house.  
Playmoney can be exchanged using the built-in exchange feature and does have real value, especially in-house.

as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin.
You can't prove that, can you? Oh right, nobody can, because it does not happen.
There's a new seed for every game, but as you are shown the hash of that seed before every bet and can change your client seed, things are provably fair.

even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless.
That's why CGs system was verified by several independent parties for review.

no one you know had a 5 reel win, because it doesn't happen to non employees.
Fun fact: CG does not have any employees.

the method is simple, they've scripted it so that if 4 reels match the 5th will advance one ahead making a 5 reel match impossible
There's been 13 slot jackpots (5 reel matches) this month, so clearly, it's impossible (https://www.crypto-games.net/bet/slot/12002582).

also they did another little dirty trick, say you get 4 oranges and a litecoin on a 10 bet, you only get paid 100 when you should get 100 for the 4 oranges and 11 for the litecoin for a total of 111.
In case of a double win, the higher reward is paid. That is calculated into the house edge and publicly communicated. Not a dirty little trick.

manipulation on slots can be proven.
I'm waiting.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: luglopersalt on October 02, 2017, 07:56:51 AM
Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net!
Post by: Lutpin on October 02, 2017, 04:47:04 PM
Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!
And you figured to call something scam before contacting their support or checking if the problem is on your end?


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Maxamune on November 08, 2017, 10:21:43 AM
They don't scam people directly. But there are passive things they do. Also, fuck Lutpin. His ego is the size of a skyscraper. Asshole goes off and insults just about every country outside his own (He's German) and especially hates americans. I had to listen to it, then when I said the same sterotype about his country he gets all bent. Who wants proof of this racist (or nationalist) asshole. Only proves my point and insult to his country that he's a Nazi lover (hey, when you think Germany is better than all others... what do you think you're proving?)

Then we have their other Mod. Roadcrypto literally told me that I was stealing his money for winning off a faucet claim. I won a ~10,000 to 1 odds and then made a withdrawl. God damn the man was pissed. It's his investor money. I still have screenshots of that too. Don't ever have a positive win rate there seems to be the conclusion. He should be thankful I didn't wager a descent deposit money amount with those kind of odds, it would been more substantial than ~$5 USD win (try more like $50,000). I would have been treated like I robbed a bank. I have screenshots of this Mod's words too. Shouldn't be a moderator by a mile. He's very hostile to many people. Don't ever mention winnings around him or have polite chat. I've seen way to many condescending remarks out of his mouth.

But anyways... to the point at hand. Minimum withdrawl for Dodge was only 1000 a month ago. Yesterday it was 3000. Today it's 11412. I find it funny that just yesterday I was on their page looking up all the withdraw amounts; then the following day, today, all but BTC have gone up. Fancy that. Unannounced too. They also ret-conned their FAQ on what the withdraw minimum is. I have an old picture of it from yesterday.

So... yeah. There's a racist mod (Lutpin), a greedy and arrogant mod / investor (Roadcrypto), and they don't fully disclose when they change things behind the scenes.

Take that as you will. If Lutpin barges in here. I'll be happy to post his screenshots comments about France, Swiss, America, Australia and a few others I've recorded over several days. He's not even joking about it (no one is laughing). He can try to backpedal and say he was joking all he wants. But when he flew off the handle and insulted my American Right to free speech and how he hates it. He just comes across as a tyrant. Fancy that. Moderators are one of your first representation of your company, and these are not that.

PS: Joking or not, Lutpin you don't make racist comments.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net
Post by: Lutpin on November 08, 2017, 11:22:11 AM
So changing minimum amounts is a scam now?

Minimum withdrawl for Dodge was only 1000 a month ago. Yesterday it was 3000. Today it's 11412. I find it funny that just yesterday I was on their page looking up all the withdraw amounts; then the following day, today, all but BTC have gone up.
Because all minimums now adjust to the BTC equivalent and are the same as BTC, 0.002BTC worth of.

They also ret-conned their FAQ on what the withdraw minimum is.
I see, keeping the information provided in a FAQ correct and up to date is "ret-conning".

PS: Joking or not, Lutpin you don't make racist comments.
I concur.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 08, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
PS: Joking or not, Lutpin you don't make racist comments.
I concur.
Agree


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Viva btc on November 15, 2017, 08:13:46 PM
Screenshot your bet please


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Bytecoiner419 on January 09, 2018, 05:16:31 PM

My dealings with this site is not too good...

I find that playing the blackjack game with small bets (free coins) you get ok hands and dealer breaks sometimes BUT if you dare to bet big, the software knows somehow and you get screwed every time.

I'v never seen a dealer hit so many 21's in my life.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: marlboroza on January 09, 2018, 08:20:47 PM

My dealings with this site is not too good...

I find that playing the blackjack game with small bets (free coins) you get ok hands and dealer breaks sometimes BUT if you dare to bet big, the software knows somehow and you get screwed every time.

I'v never seen a dealer hit so many 21's in my life.
Change client seed when you bet big and you will be fine.
I did that many times and guess what - if you are unlucky you are unlucky, nothing can help you. Lol.
It's random, new game new deck and with that said everything is possible.

Research provably fair system, house edge, EV- and all other gambling....things.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 09, 2018, 09:51:38 PM

My dealings with this site is not too good...

I find that playing the blackjack game with small bets (free coins) you get ok hands and dealer breaks sometimes BUT if you dare to bet big, the software knows somehow and you get screwed every time.

I'v never seen a dealer hit so many 21's in my life.
Change client seed when you bet big and you will be fine.
I did that many times and guess what - if you are unlucky you are unlucky, nothing can help you. Lol.
It's random, new game new deck and with that said everything is possible.

Research provably fair system, house edge, EV- and all other gambling....things.

Whoah.

Rational.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: TwitchySeal on March 23, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
Moderators are treating people like they are ants!

Ants in an ant farm?


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: klaaas on March 23, 2018, 06:49:40 PM
i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row

Not even that worse, seen -15 but also +17 in a row.
Its a luck thing not crypto-games who is scamming you.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net!
Post by: jpcfan on April 06, 2018, 09:08:38 AM
Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!
And you figured to call something scam before contacting their support or checking if the problem is on your end?



yeah sorta something like you giving neg. trust to luckygames owner cuz of a fake complaint.

never following up just letting a dice site owner who did nothing wrong with neg 2 trust for all to see


at least yahoo took back his -2 trust he gave at LG first. cuz he read up  on it a few days later and agreed LG owner did nothing wrong.


must be nice for a dice site give neg. trust to other dice sites . and the they can't fight back





Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net!
Post by: jpcfan on April 06, 2018, 05:45:00 PM
Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!
And you figured to call something scam before contacting their support or checking if the problem is on your end?




so take back the -2 neg trust you gave for no reason to luckygames

when it comes to giving neg. trust. it's not cool to give out for something so minor. nothing happened owner didnt scam .


so pl;ease. asking you. please take that neg trust back. it's not right


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net!
Post by: marlboroza on April 08, 2018, 09:06:58 AM
when it comes to giving neg. trust. it's not cool to give out for something so minor. nothing happened owner didnt scam .
In your opinion, rigging game result because player was winning in EV+ game is something minor and not to be taken seriously?

This isn't question, you ARE saying that rigging result isn't scam, you are spreading lies for site which you are shilling for. I wonder why you are not negative tagged.

Sorry for going off topic.


Title: JPC - Searching for the Thread this belongs in
Post by: Lutpin on April 08, 2018, 05:16:43 PM
Learn to Post in appropriate Threads, jpc.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: luglopersalt on May 25, 2018, 01:02:59 PM
My deepest apollagies to Lutpin for starting this ridiculios thread... I take back Everything I said. Your site is NOT scam on the contrary it's a
LIFE-SAVER! for many (if not abused) - (you site I mean) So I hope we can BURY the past. AND CLOSE THIS THREAD PLEASE! thank you.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: Intensity! on June 30, 2018, 07:28:02 PM
Crypto Games - Fraud Alert

I have two accounts at this site. One I have had for a long time and the other one new. I play on many different top sites out there and play with varies accounts.

This site blocked my accounts and has stolen my funds refusing to release them.  NO, I did not lose, I won a small amount.

Now my account is locked with over 470,000 Doge valued at $1100 USD at the time of this post.

Click these for screenshots:

Username: Intensity

https://i.gyazo.com/64124e80d556324ac417251de4b35292.png

Username: gatekeeper

https://i.gyazo.com/556968a86d5abcfaab321f81af160a9e.png


Stealing funds from players is THEFT.

Do not play at this site.


Title: Re: Crypto-Games.net - scam!
Post by: marlboroza on June 30, 2018, 07:47:42 PM
I have two accounts at this site
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1.1. By clicking a positive opt in before and/or accessing any section of Crypto-Games.net (hereinafter "we", "us" or "our"), you (hereinafter "Player") agree to the following Terms and Conditions. These Terms and Conditions are a binding agreement between you and us. The Terms and Conditions apply to the services provided by us including but not limited to any games, rules, promotions, bonuses, and special offers which may be found on Crypto-Games.net periodically.

1.2. Read these Terms and Conditions carefully before accepting them. If you do not agree to accept and be bound by the Terms and Conditions, please do not open an account, and/or continue to use Crypto-Games.net. Your continued use of Crypto-Games.net will constitute your acceptance of the Terms and Conditions.


Assuming you didn't read ToS, go and read 4.3.