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Title: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Charlie Prime on March 10, 2013, 02:42:50 AM
Adam Curry tells the world how angry he is about having 143 Bitcoins he can't sell...

http://flowthego.com/na/NA-Bitcoin-Sucks-20130307.mp3

Very sad.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 10, 2013, 02:49:08 AM
What a retard! who is this fool and how is he allowed on the radio?!?!


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 10, 2013, 02:50:55 AM
Well, if he could exchange them, he'd be less pissed about it. Maybe we could work on convincing his landlady (or more productively, the people at the Austin farmer's market) to accept BTC.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: jwzguy on March 10, 2013, 02:53:47 AM
Why can't he exchange them?


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: elux on March 10, 2013, 03:01:09 AM
What a retard! who is this fool and how is he allowed on the radio?!?!

Well, he's the inventor of podcasting.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 10, 2013, 03:03:56 AM
What a retard! who is this fool and how is he allowed on the radio?!?!

Well, he's the inventor of podcasting.

well whoever he is, hes fucking retarded. He has no clue of how to sell coins,  gtfoh! Theres a million places to sell coins, all he needs is to open his eyes and shut his mouth!


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 10, 2013, 03:25:57 AM
Why can't he exchange them?

Lack of trust. His MTGox account got hacked, and all the other ways he can use apparently will only do 2 coins. From what I gathered, his primary means of accepting payment is Paypal. Which is where most of his other donations come in, so that's understandable.

Dvorak has always been on the hate train for Bitcoin, though, and Adam loves the idea of Bitcoin, just not the way it's currently being done.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 10, 2013, 08:14:31 AM
Does he not know there are exchanges other than mtgox?  ???
It's possible he doesn't. I heard him say it couldn't be exchanged for several currencies that I know it can.

adam (at) curry.com

Feel free to inform him.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 10, 2013, 08:32:13 AM
WTF is a podcast?  Sounds like a klame proprietary version of shoutcast, something winamp did ages ago  :D


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 10, 2013, 08:43:12 AM
http://www.troll.me/images/futurama-fry/not-sure-if-trolling-or-just-stupid.jpg

But just in case you're serious, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 10, 2013, 08:51:37 AM
both.  :D

stupid: anyone may upload an mp3, it's not a new idea and curry wasn't the first to do it. 

trolling: of course we all know what a podcast is, but fuck apple and curry

/diamond Rio owner


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 10, 2013, 08:57:28 AM
anyone may upload an mp3, it's not a new idea and curry wasn't the first to do it. 

You're right, he wasn't, but he was, along with Dave Winer, the first to make the downloading automatic.

But yes, Fuck Apple.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: lebing on March 10, 2013, 09:24:18 AM
Making a podcast about something you know dick about (and dont even have producers to inform your ignorant ass)

Fail.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Charlie Prime on March 10, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
> Does he not know there are exchanges other than mtgox?  ???
It's possible he doesn't.

He says his mtgox account got hacked.  How is that possible unless he shared his password?


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Lethn on March 10, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
It amazes me how often people try to cover up their own incompetence and stupidity by blaming it on an inanimate object, or in this case, one that's just made up of algorithm's and numbers which isn't even in the physical world.

BLEHHHH! >_<

Edit: I'll be honest, I didn't have the patience to listen all the way through, it's the exact same accusations you see troll spammed on these boards.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: molecular on March 10, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
what a bunch of jerks!

lol, "in the chatroom they're calling me a fucking idiot". lololool!


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Richy_T on March 10, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
Cool. Dvorak is to computers what Proudhon is to bitcoin speculation.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: molecular on March 10, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
Cool. Dvorak is to computers what Proudhon is to bitcoin speculation.

Really? Lol. Is that why or because we mostly use qwerty keyboards?



Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: elux on March 10, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
Cool. Dvorak is to computers what Proudhon is to bitcoin speculation.

Really? Lol. Is that why or because we mostly use qwerty keyboards?



Different Dvorak.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Charlie Prime on March 10, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
They don't even appreciate listeners.  Here Curry throws a fit and curses listeners because he is only making $150,000 per year doing a twice per week clip show...

5 minutes, 5 megabytes

Warning: VERY foul language.

http://flowthego.com/na/NA-F-U-20130307.mp3


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Lethn on March 10, 2013, 05:40:20 PM
'Only' $150,000 a year? What an ungrateful cunt!


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: dotcom on March 10, 2013, 05:55:26 PM
Adam Curry tells the world how angry he is about having 143 Bitcoins he can't sell...

http://flowthego.com/na/NA-Bitcoin-Sucks-20130307.mp3

Very sad.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/24016000/ngbbs4fd60186c11ae.jpg


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Transisto on March 10, 2013, 10:23:36 PM
RELATED : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150742


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Transisto on March 10, 2013, 11:29:54 PM
BTW this is today's show : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LShUiOJuGrY

I'll point out to parts where they talk about bitcoin ,,, (in an edit)


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Charlie Prime on March 11, 2013, 12:20:19 AM
What did they say this time?


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 11, 2013, 12:28:09 AM
What did they say this time?

More of the same. John pouring on the hate, Adam showing his astonishing level of ignorance.

The show is usually really good, but on some things, they completely miss the point. (Dvorak, famously once said the mouse would never catch on - though this was well before NA.)


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Charlie Prime on March 11, 2013, 02:52:38 AM
Ah thanks.  I've been a listener for a year, but quit today.

Five minutes into today's I deleted the episode and removed their feed from my podcatcher.

I realized they are a huge waste of my time.  Last year they did interesting media deconstructions.

This year it's:

- 20% bitching about not getting enough money
- 50% low-brow Perez Hilton style celebrity/politician ridicule.
- 20% reading donator shout-outs
- 10% interesting news angles

Suffering 140 minutes of crap to get 10 minutes of value is foolish.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Lethn on March 11, 2013, 03:14:05 AM
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Suffering 140 minutes of crap to get 10 minutes of value is foolish.

Reminds me of how I feel when I play MMORPG's :P


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Mike Christ on March 11, 2013, 03:21:44 AM
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Suffering 140 minutes of crap to get 10 minutes of value is foolish.

Reminds me of how I feel when I play MMORPG's :P

So true.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 11, 2013, 04:24:45 AM
curry and dvorak are not 1337.  They are exa-laymers until they

Quote
Take the time to understand how the internet destroys everything on its path;

Take the time to understand that gov'ts have crossed a bridge then burned it, they can't shut down the internet without major infrastructure and supply chain cascading collapses; the Internet is now one of those "hubs" described in the FEASTA "trade-off"paper;  

Take the time to understand one-way cryptography and public key cryptography;

Take the time to understand that if you want to steal a bitcoin, it's as easy as breaking the RIPEMD function of the result of the SHA256 function of the result of the private key; you might as well be the greatest discrete mathematician of all time if you can break these three tried-and-proven methods **simultaneously**. 
Take the time to understand that govt's transferred the risks from banks to fiat, and high inflation and banking holidays lie ahead;

Take the time to understand that 1 bitcoin is (today) as scarce as 10kgs of gold.  (5 Billion above ground gold ounces versus 10,881,100 bitcoin). 

Basically, you have to be at the intersection of understanding the antifragility of the internet, the robustness of cryptography, the fragility of fiat, the skin in the game that people into bitcoin have and the zero skin in the game of those in the halls of fiat power---all at the same time.  I talk to cryptographers that simply can't/won't listen to the fragility of the fiat regime; and I talk to major gold bulls that simply don't understand the difference between a bernanke buck that can be created with the stroke of a pen and a bitcoin that takes extreme negentropy to create.


Gold is valuable money because of negentropy, as the 2nd law of thermodynamics tries to destroy it, gold ignores it.  People have realized this intuitively over the centuries, and gold will always be good money.  


Bitcoin has even more negentropy, and absolutely zero use value.   

/best zerohedge comment all weekend


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Transisto on March 11, 2013, 04:26:22 AM
Today's update ,,, ( >:( I quit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LShUiOJuGrY#t=5905s


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 11, 2013, 04:34:25 AM
don't waste your precious time listening to these clueless buffoons. 

Download the latest mp3s from kingworldnews.com and learn something valuable instead.   8)


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: CharlesPonzi on March 11, 2013, 10:06:25 AM
The trouble is hes trying to cash out to fiat and not looking for something to buy within the economy. Even buy some gold at coinabul since hes a gold nut.

Fail.



Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: myrkul on March 11, 2013, 01:19:17 PM
The trouble is hes trying to cash out to fiat and not looking for something to buy within the economy. Even buy some gold at coinabul since hes a gold nut.

Fail.

Coinabul would probably be his best bet, but he was looking for things to buy. The choices just suck.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: molecular on March 11, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
The trouble is hes trying to cash out to fiat and not looking for something to buy within the economy. Even buy some gold at coinabul since hes a gold nut.

Fail.

Coinabul would probably be his best bet, but he was looking for things to buy. The choices just suck.

The choices on milkraod are overwhelming. Someone said he liked to smoke the bong... maybe he should pick up the habit again.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Nancarrow on March 18, 2013, 10:53:18 AM
Cool. Dvorak is to computers what Proudhon is to bitcoin speculation.

Really? Lol. Is that why or because we mostly use qwerty keyboards?



Different Dvorak.

I liked his Hovis ad, though.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Charlie Prime on March 18, 2013, 12:20:17 PM

Now they are saying Bitcoin is a pump-n-dump scheme owned by Max Keiser.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: molecular on March 18, 2013, 10:39:56 PM

Now they are saying Bitcoin is a pump-n-dump scheme owned by Max Keiser.

Lol. Other people say Max Keiser is Satoshi and Bitcoin can't be a world currency because there only will be 21 million of them and there are 7 billion people on earth... how the hell should that work.

Some people should read and think first, then talk.


Title: Re: Adam Curry & John Dvorak Bring the Hate for Bitcoin
Post by: Lethn on March 19, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
I'll tell you one thing, when I did bother to listen, it was like listening to my parents when they pretend to know anything about computers, exactly like that.