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Title: repost for advice (non tech user)solved by psy-"hero"
Post by: reg on March 14, 2013, 05:58:38 PM
hi, I wrongly posted my query in development and tech support . whilst some comments were interesting I am still concerned and need a good talking to! my original post is here:

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quick advice please
March 12, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
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one of my recent transactions showed a weird sign (probably due to a power outage whilst updating) it was a box with arrows in and out? a small deduction on my balance and n/a  in subject?. I did a rescan and expected transactions to appear as it neared completion? its been running a few days and although nearly complete (less than 10000 blks to go nothing shows? yet I have been using client for nearly a year? I am now getting worried I have corrupted my wallet.dat by doing a rescan yet it shows 148 kb's any ideas please (I am not very technical) reg

latest: the rescan is nearly complete  <4000 blks to go but still "0" transactions. Its qt bitcoin 4.7.3

is this normal? I had receiving addresses in my wallet.dat from glbse and receive dividends from them.

I tried to copy my wallet.dat into a blockchain.info but could not do it because I can't get the memory stick and program on at the same time to click and drag? copy and paste does not work for some reason I don't know?.I am using Linux os a basic version! it has been running fine until a week ago? I am out of my depth and need to know if my client can be/will be saved? anyone?. reg      


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: BookLover on March 14, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
What do you mean you did a rescan?  What you are describing sounds nothing like the typical meaning or running Bitcoin QT with the -rescan option.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 01:03:01 AM
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not knowing how to do this I searched online  and found that you have to type in -rescan after the description in the client? so I opened the folder "bitcoin" and typed it in? when I restarted the client another folder was created called bitcoin.-recan and it loaded the blockchain but with nothing in the transaction window?. at first I was not worried because the client has been running 7-8 months but now with less than 3000 blks and still nothing it does not look right?. Also the original file has 68kb size wallet.dat and -rescan has a 148kb wallet.dat? I do not know what I may have done wrong? I have a memory stick with my first wallet.daf file on it and before I started i copied the wallet.dat file on it. it said file exists overwrite or rename so I renamed and its the wallet2.dat that is in the rescan client? I just do not know enough to recover the situation?. reg


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Stephen Gornick on March 15, 2013, 03:04:09 AM
so I opened the folder "bitcoin" and typed it in? when I restarted the client another folder was created called bitcoin.-recan

I've no idea what you did but there should not be a directory called "bitcoin.-recan" or any new directory.  

Your wallet.dat contains the private keys necessary to spend.  As long as you still have that, you should still have access to spend those funds (once you get a client in sync).

At this point you are first simply trying to ascertain that the funds are still there.

In the bitcoin client click on Receive.  Do your addresses show?  If not, you are running the client against an empty wallet.dat.

You can stop the client and swap out wallet.dat files (e.g., rename the current one and restore from backup another one) to see if that shows any different.   With 4K blocks to go, that means if you did ANY spending with your wallet since January you shouldn't trust the balance that shows until it has sync.   Newer versions of the client don't show bogus results when not in sync, so if you had done any spending from your wallet then this is a problem that you see only because you are still on an older client.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 03:06:46 AM
Man, do you have teamviewer installed? Need a remote hand to help you?
If you got to that point by following written instructions I think accepting my remote assistance is your best option.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 06:12:51 AM
Man, do you have teamviewer installed? Need a remote hand to help you?

hi, thanks- that may be the best way forward if I can install that on Linux? I think I am installing a new wallet.dat so I will try and do what was suggested. then look into installing   teamviewer and mail you back. thanks. reg.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 06:37:54 AM
Man, do you have teamviewer installed? Need a remote hand to help you?

hi, thanks- that may be the best way forward if I can install that on Linux? I think I am installing a new wallet.dat so I will try and do what was suggested. then look into installing   teamviewer and mail you back. thanks. reg.

Yes, you can install it in Linux, but you'll probably need wine or mono installed to run it.
I run it in ubuntu myself.

Send me a PM if you need help.
I could even write some detailed instructions, but if you got into that mess by following the wiki or some other thread in here I'm really doubting you can advance much more by following anything I write.
With Teamviewer you can see what I'm doing and we can talk in real time while I'm doing it.
I know it's hard to trust unknown folks over the internet, so, no hard feelings if you refuse this kind of help.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 07:28:38 AM
psy Send me a PM if you need help.

hi I have pm'd you. thanks for your offer of help. I gratefully accept and hope you are patient with me. I need to know your time zone for your convienience of slotting me in a time to suit you. Like in the film "a beautifull mind" he said "I can solve this" reg.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
psy

further to my pm I have gone as far as I can with vnc! I typed in:
$ mkdir vnc
and -nothing? the command disappeared and I can't see any evidence it created the directory? so I can't create an initialization file etc etc. reg


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 04:08:14 PM
The dir should have a dot at the beggining: .vnc
If you don't see it, open your file manager, go to your user home dir and press CTRL+H and see if it shows up. files or directories with a dot at the begining are hidden, so they must be unhidden.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
directories with a dot at the begining are hidden, so they must be unhidden.

ok found out how to create a directory but did not put a dot there. Should/could I put one or can we go to the next step? which is create a file xstartup in the directory. The directory exists in home, documents. reg


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 04:30:35 PM
Yes, you should put the dot. The directory should be named .vnc
You'll need to unhide it after, tho.
And yes, create the xstartup file with this in it
Code:
# Execute common xstartup file 
[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup

# Load .Xresources file
[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources

# Run the vncconfig helper to enable clipboard transfers and control of the desktop
vncconfig -iconic &

# Launch a GNOME desktop
exec gnome-session &

Have you already installed the vncserver package for your distro?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
ive changed the directory but now of course its hidden so how do I create a file in that directory and list what you sent? no I haven't done anything else yet? reg


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 05:06:39 PM
You need to press CTRL+H on your home dir, then you'll see all hidden folders, including the .vnc one you created.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 05:29:40 PM
psy
You need to press CTRL+H on your home dir
I cant seem to get that to show anything? do you mean with the cursor highlighting the home directory? because I tried that and pressed ctrl and h together=nothing? reg (I am too overwhelmed to learn how to get a chat prog running just now)


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 05:35:45 PM
No, I mean INSIDE your home dir.
In case CTRL+H doesn't unhide the folders you need to look in your file manager menus for an option to "Show hidden files and folders" or something along those lines.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
psy
No, I mean INSIDE your home dir
I did try that. under view I found "find hidden files alt+" so I tried that in home and documents it does not show the directory?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
psy
No, I mean INSIDE your home dir
I did try that. under view I found "find hidden files alt+" so I tried that in home and documents it does not show the directory?

Well, may I ask in which folder you created the .vnc folder?
It should be in /home/YOUR_USERNAME/ If you created it there it should be there when you unhide files and folders.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 06:01:49 PM
I created it in home /documents and thats where I looked? I also recreated it and it said file exists overwrite so I do not know why I cant see it/


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
first the good news- I checked again and now I see the file plus another called directory! whats next while I have it?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 06:10:24 PM
The .vnc folder should not be in documents. It should be in your user home dir.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
whats the command for create a file? do i then open the file and copy and paste the code you sent?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
open the shell and type
Code:
cd .vnc
touch xstartup

Then open the file, insert the content and save.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
ok I dragen into the home directory


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 06:27:29 PM
when I open the directory the code line $ mkdir .vnc is there? how exactly do I open the shell?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 06:46:52 PM
Are you using a graphic environment? If so you don't need any command to create a file. Just right click, choose "Create file" and give it the name xstartup.

Being someone who isn't a technical user have you thought about using a OS that is more user friendly than what you're using, for example Ubuntu, where you can solve almost any problem you find with a simple google search?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 07:15:31 PM
I don't think I am using a graphic environment. I opened the shell and put in what you said but it inserted not a directory?. I can't change systems now we (my) son asked for advice and was told linuxos. I still need to  create a file when I right click on .vnc there is no   create file option.

I need to go out soon I will see what I can do tommorow thanks for your patience. reg       


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
Is that linuxos this one: http://linuxos.sk/ ?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 15, 2013, 07:28:09 PM
i don't know- I did read somewhere how to find the version I am using. I will look it up and post a where I am now update. and decide if we can progress or not? thanks reg.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
i don't know- I did read somewhere how to find the version I am using. I will look it up and post a where I am now update. and decide if we can progress or not? thanks reg.

Can you do the following in the command line and paste the result here, please
Code:
uname -a


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 12:31:15 AM
this is my frustration- I can't any response from inputting the command? I have tried executing-saving and opening the file? i have tried to open a shell and type in the command but no result appears whatever I do and it is never explained if the version is supposed to appear or is viewed elsewhere.  the command just disappears and I have a blank screen? so I do not know how to run or execute the command and get a result? reg.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
psy

I am in Spain gmt+1. my bitcoin client-rescan finished updating and shows 0 transactions? the other original client is still in my home directory but the run icon on my desktop points to the rescan client. I only had 0.09xxxxxx btc so not concerned about that but my receiving address from glbse still has dividends paid in. I have an original wallet.dat in the uk but was not going home until the end of April. meanwhile I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. If I cant get a response to my command what do I do? I tried it in run command box -nothing, I tried it in Kwrite- nothing, I tried in the shell= pc,terminals,console-nothing?  reg.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 08:43:04 AM
On PCLinuxOS TeamViewer can be installed from the repository. The package is provided by the PCLinuxOS team.
 If you remember I sent a request to access teamviewer from a "repository" but have had no reply?.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 04:06:01 PM
OK, now I know your exact OS.
Let's see if we can advance further.

If Teamviewer is available on PCLinuxOS repositories why can't you install it?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 04:40:32 PM
If Teamviewer is available on PCLinuxOS repositories why can't you install it?

hi, I got the impression the linux team had to give you access to the repository? so if I can access it I will try to download it. reg


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
psy which one please??/


   
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Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
None of those. Install it from the Synaptic package manager or open your Konsole and type
Code:
sudo apt-get install teamviewer

If the above code tells you the package teamviewer doesn't exist try using
Code:
sudo apt-get install teamviewer7
or
Code:
sudo apt-get install teamviewer8


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 05:27:14 PM
psy

in the console the first two saidcommand not found"
the third command just stays there?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
psy

I just looked in the synaptic   path viewer and it has "teamviewer7" in there? is that any help?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 06:11:51 PM
psy

I just looked in the synaptic   path viewer and it has "teamviewer7" in there? is that any help?

Install teamviewer7 from Synaptic then.

BTW, reg, I'm in Portugal, so my timezone is GMT. But I have strange schedules lol
Like waking up at 4PM and going to bed at 6AM ;D


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 06:23:32 PM
psy

ok I have marked it for use but never used this package what do I do to enable it?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
psy

ok i have just applied it and it is dowloading now (9 programs) associated to teamviewer!


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 06:28:45 PM
AFAIK, you should mark it(teamviewer7) for Install and then Apply Changes and Synaptic will install it.
Long time since I've used synaptic and don't even have it in this computer, but the process should be how I described.

When Synaptic finishes installing it, just look for Teamviewer in your Programs menu and start it

Then, when you open it, it will show you your ID and a one-time password for remote access. Send me those in a PM.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
it says some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server , ignor? or not?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 06:32:35 PM
it says some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server , ignor? or not?

Ignore it and see if Teamviewer works. But some of those should be dependencies, so probably it won't work. Nothing like trying. You can always go back later and try to fix broken packages.

One question, did you update the packages list when you opened Synaptic? can't remember if it does it by it's own or not.
Just searched, and you need to press the "Reload" button on Synaptic for it to download updated package lists.
Then you can install Teamviewer, after the package information is current.


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: reg on March 16, 2013, 06:48:24 PM
ok remarked and reloaded- updating now. going out in about an hour how about you?


Title: Re: repost for advice (non tech user)
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 06:49:54 PM
ok remarked and reloaded- updating now. going out in about an hour how about you?

I'm staying for long hours. My work day just started 3 hours ago ;D

But I think you should Reload first and then mark Teamviewer for installation.
Now it's probably only updating what needs to be updated in your computer.