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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: johnyj on March 15, 2013, 12:06:03 AM



Title: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: johnyj on March 15, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
"Swedish government today made a decision about a new law that is called short-time-work, or so-called crisis contract

The recommendation about short working time means that in a crisis time where the general business condition worsened greatly, people get a temporary lowered salary and lowered working hours, combined with government taking 1/3 of the cost for the involved company

The purpose is to give support to avoid large scale layoff of employee..."

http://www.gp.se/ekonomi/1.1404677-regeringen-beslutar-om-krisavtal (http://www.gp.se/ekonomi/1.1404677-regeringen-beslutar-om-krisavtal)

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Currently the swedish jobless rate is 8.5%, and many young people can not find a job. Several of my colleagues have problems with their kids, and they typically send them to other countries like Australia/China after they gradudated from high school

At least the government has realized that mass scale layoff will create a self supported downward spiral. Sweden is a small country and have about 4 million working, the effect is very quick to be felt

I always think that the right solution for today's jobless problem is to continuously reduce working hours,  let's see if sweden can create a first example of full employment through lower working hours  :)


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: inge on March 15, 2013, 08:04:51 AM

government taking 1/3 of the cost for the involved company



That’s mean that the government debt (national debt) will increase and so the probability that the krona inflates….we will see if, in the long term, this political decision will help getting Swedish economy back on track.

Regard, Inge


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: hazek on March 17, 2013, 11:53:14 PM
But.. but.. but.. I thought Sweden was such a marvelous example of economics success through heavy government involvement in the economy taking up a large % of GDP (and down right socialism)?! What in the world happened?





.. ::)


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: Lethn on March 18, 2013, 09:45:55 AM
What I find depressing is that these welfare schemes etc. could work but when these ideas get put in everyone including the people who voted for these guys get so spend happy and they don't care where the money comes from as long as they get it.


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: hazek on March 18, 2013, 10:35:14 AM
What I find depressing is that these welfare schemes etc. could work but when these ideas get put in everyone including the people who voted for these guys get so spend happy and they don't care where the money comes from as long as they get it.

So they could work if they didn't have a fatal flaw, a source of which is human nature? Well as long as they could work in theory!  ::)


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: Lethn on March 18, 2013, 10:54:19 AM
LOL That's basically it though, I've always known the communist ideology etc. could work but it just couldn't work for humans, maybe robots perhaps or some other alien civilisation but not us because you basically need to give up the idea of owning anything or having wealth etc.


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: Mageant on March 18, 2013, 03:10:57 PM
Germany has had this law for a long time now.


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: stevegee58 on March 18, 2013, 03:32:05 PM
Maybe Sweden could do something sensible like cut back (or eliminate) their silly government-mandated minimum vacation days of 25 f@#$%& days.

Of course if they did that there'd be civil war.


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: wachtwoord on March 18, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
Maybe Sweden could do something sensible like cut back (or eliminate) their silly government-mandated minimum vacation days of 25 f@#$%& days.

Of course if they did that there'd be civil war.

*Cough* Mutli-year pregnancy holidays *cough*


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: lebing on March 18, 2013, 03:42:39 PM
Uh, this is actually a really good move by Sweden (not surprising among the politics in scandinavia in general).

http://www.inc.com/laura-entis/25-hour-work-week-an-argument-for-redistributing-working-hours.html
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13339-the-25-hour-work-week


Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: johnyj on March 19, 2013, 01:51:22 AM
But.. but.. but.. I thought Sweden was such a marvelous example of economics success through heavy government involvement in the economy taking up a large % of GDP (and down right socialism)?! What in the world happened?

.. ::)

Sweden is highly dependant on export and also highly automated, its industry have not been heavily affected by WWII, so it is not very meaningful to evaluate such a special economy and get some general conclusion. Since it is heavily dependant on external market, EU situation affect it a lot





Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: inge on March 19, 2013, 08:43:56 AM


 Since it is heavily dependant on external market, EU situation affect it a lot





Well, this is true for all EU countries…Interdependency of economics and financial markets are, between EU countries, very high. That was also the main reason to have a common currency…



Title: Re: Swedish government's new crisis strategy
Post by: KSV on June 05, 2013, 03:50:58 PM
But.. but.. but.. I thought Sweden was such a marvelous example of economics success through heavy government involvement in the economy taking up a large % of GDP (and down right socialism)?! What in the world happened?





.. ::)


still better than the USA by far . . .