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Title: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on March 16, 2013, 04:26:08 PM Hello there ASIC manufacturers,
I am doing a blog with microscope photos of various microchips: http://zeptobars.ru/ (http://zeptobars.ru/) I would be very interested to publish photo of you chip with active link to your website, and this might prove to someone that you actually have custom ASIC. I can confirm whether it looks like actual bitcoin miner, and it's manufacturing technology. All I need from you is send me 1x your custom chip (it might be preproduction/engineering batch). Please drop me a message to michail@zeptobars.ru PS. Why writing here? Because I couldn't find Avalon email contacts, and I am pretty sure all custom ASIC manufacturers are watching this forum :-D We'll get something like this: http://s.zeptobars.ru/MSP430F122.jpg Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2013, 12:03:26 AM hahahha, keep dreaming.
Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: JusticeForYou on March 17, 2013, 12:07:32 AM Looks like your MCU is rusting, that's dope.
Seriously, why would they do that? Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: invader on March 17, 2013, 12:33:12 AM Saw them before, really like these pictures. I found them very interesting. Thanks for your great work.
But i also doubt if anyone would be ready to sacrifice the chip now to render a whole avalon hashmodule useless. Maybe later, when better chips will appear in customer hands, or if it would be possible to run smaller modules of avalon hashmodule independently. Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on March 19, 2013, 01:06:09 AM But i also doubt if anyone would be ready to sacrifice the chip now to render a whole avalon hashmodule useless. I don't expect end users to sacrifice chips, I expect manufacturers to do so. :) This is in their very interest - they'll get some 50-150k people to see an article about them with a link to their website. Pretty good for a cost of spare chip :-) Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: hardcore-fs on March 19, 2013, 01:16:04 AM Another 'tired' chips under microscope site, but it
Looks more like they are prepared to 'rip off' the ASIC designs. "We are also building an in-house ASIC prototyping line based on maskless lithography and silicon-on-sapphire wafers. Our design goal here is quick turnaround time and reduced number of technological steps rather than top performance or high wafer throughput. " Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: ChipGeek on March 19, 2013, 01:30:40 AM Another 'tired' chips under microscope site, but it Looks more like they are prepared to 'rip off' the ASIC designs. "We are also building an in-house ASIC prototyping line based on maskless lithography and silicon-on-sapphire wafers. Our design goal here is quick turnaround time and reduced number of technological steps rather than top performance or high wafer throughput. " ^^ This. If I were a bitcoin ASIC designer, I'd send them a photo of my chip, but not a chip. Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: Gomeler on March 19, 2013, 06:21:13 PM Another 'tired' chips under microscope site, but it Looks more like they are prepared to 'rip off' the ASIC designs. "We are also building an in-house ASIC prototyping line based on maskless lithography and silicon-on-sapphire wafers. Our design goal here is quick turnaround time and reduced number of technological steps rather than top performance or high wafer throughput. " If that were the case then why not just purchase an Avalon/BFL SC Single, reverse engineer the chips and release your product without original designers knowing? I suppose there is something to be said about a brazen approach, if this is indeed what the OP is trying to do, but I'd be surprised. Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on March 20, 2013, 01:47:04 AM If that were the case then why not just purchase an Avalon/BFL SC Single, reverse engineer the chips and release your product without original designers knowing? I suppose there is something to be said about a brazen approach, if this is indeed what the OP is trying to do, but I'd be surprised. "Ripping-off" modern microchips is not economically viable. Bitcoin asic's are especially simple to design with automatic synthesis tools, could take just 1 week of work for skilled team (and then 1 year to manufacture) - so it's just cheaper to redesign. On the other side, reverse engineering chip of such complexity could easily take several human-years. I guess, no one would buy ripped-off ASIC in 2016? :-D Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on March 20, 2013, 01:52:03 AM If I were a bitcoin ASIC designer, I'd send them a photo of my chip, but not a chip. That will work too, if it's actual hi-res microscope photo, and not an EDA screenshot :-) Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on April 07, 2013, 03:02:52 AM FYI: I've got contacted from everyone except BFL :'(
Can anyone drop them a message? Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: itcamefrommars on April 07, 2013, 03:35:24 AM FYI: I've got contacted from everyone except BFL :'( Can anyone drop them a message? Please tell me this whole thread was a build up to this punchline... that'd be pretty funny. A for Affort :D Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on April 07, 2013, 03:44:50 AM Please tell me this whole thread was a build up to this punchline... that'd be pretty funny. A for Affort :D Nope, I just need the chips to show their photos to the public, that's it :-) Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: r.willis on April 07, 2013, 06:24:18 AM And can we expect photos?
Title: Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos Post by: BarsMonster on April 07, 2013, 07:11:36 AM And can we expect photos? Yes, they will be published as soon as I receive the chips (which can take 1-2 months, Russian post is not in a hurry). |
