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Here is the proof that Primedice is a scam

Today I found out about www.primedicestrategy.com where there are  few Methods listed on how to beat Primedice.

I used 1 Method and kept it running for about 3 hours, where i went up a few thousand sats

I kept playing and than I lost 3 times in a row and primedice stopped the game,even though i had enough coins for the next bet.

The Martingale Betting System works but primedice is rigged

go to imgur to see the proof

http://imgur.com/XxnjdoF

You lost 3x in a row and thats your scam proof? your just unlucky.. there are more people have more longest redstreak even at that 1.10 odds.

What?  You just lost 3 times in rows at 90% , and you said primedice is rigged? OP, its normal, im ever had 5 loses in a rows at that chance, you just unlucky.

you didnt get the picture
I played on autobet and i had enough money on the account to wager a 4th bet but Primedice stopped the game therefore I lost

Hahahahahahaha! When will you people learn that it's a gambling method. It's not by any means fool proof. If you raise your bet exponentially eventually if you lose enough times you won't have enough to bet anymore and you'll go broke.

Martingale is th oldest, stupidest betting method. It's been around for hundreds of years and doesn't work. Bet for fun and get a job. Don't rely on betting money to be your income. It will never work out.

Martingale will never work in any real case scenario, period.

The chance of that happening is equal to 1 / 10³, which is 0.1%.

The chance of that not happening is 99.9%. You said that you have kept it running for 3 hours, so assuming that there is 1 bet / second, the chance of not having 3 in a row is:

(0.999^{3 × 60}) × 100 = 83.51%

And that is just for 180 bets. You probably had a lot more bets than that.

(my calculations might be off)

Autobet only stops because you didn't have enough balance for the next bet. All sites with autobet feature are like this, and it's pretty normal.
Losing three in a row is common for a 1.1x autobet, so you're unlucky.

What is this you got just 3 red in a row but I think with 90% win chance you can get up to 9 red in a row, I think that is just a bad luck while you can confirm the outcome of each bet result than there is no problem with betting result, anyway sorry for you lose by betting on very low odds.

Again the same story someone lost his few faucet money and now claim primedice it's a scam  ::).

It's GAMBLING either you have luck or not, they are so long online and 100% not need to scam you a few cents.

He said he got 3 reds at a row and the game stopped while he still had enough satoshi for the next roll. Maybe the auto bet stopped due to some error. It can be his connection or something else. But I think he can continue his last bet manually with the amount that can cover his last lost.

Whats wrong with you guys??
Don't you know how to read??

It has nothing to do with the martingale system

What I show or describe here is that Primedice stopped the automated game after 3 losses even though i had enough money for a 4th bet
thats what this post is about

I know that its possible to loose 5 times in a row

The point here is Primedice stopped the game so i couldnt even play a fourth bet, Primedice pretty much robbed me of a chance to win

They can scam bingo. No one know when it will payout. It can delay forever.

Huh? Seems you were used after lose around 1000%, weren't you? your last bet lost was 60k sat, so you need around 650k sat for the next bet, but from your screenshoot you just had 300k, thats why your bet at 4th was stopped

Looking at the bets, it seems that you used a 10.99× multiplier.

0.00060390 × 10.99 = 0.006636861

Which is higher than your balance. So Primedice stopped the game.

Multiply your last bet to whatever settings you have on loss and you will see your balance is not sufficient to continue rolling. Next time do the math first so you won't look like a clown here

Edit: confirmed clown, you can go now

Please click THIS LINK (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542033.msg15502408#msg15502408) so that your concern regarding your case answers your question. And you are wrong, it really has to do with martingale you made.

EDIT: More answers here, plus they are quicker than me a minute ago.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542033.msg15502441#msg15502441
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542033.msg15502447#msg15502447

Maybe this is a chance to turn your life around. Stop gambling and start something meaningful. What are you good at? Try and sell a service on bitcointalk or sell products. It's a better way to make money than rolling some dice (figuratively) and hoping for the best.

What if you lost your 4th bet? Would you be any happier? Just stop gambling and you won't have to worry about ever losing again.

Feels bad man
Lol scam for 60k sat, you can go to micro earning and get more than it again lols
Or just join primdice giveaways and they give money more than they scam you

Really a lol on this one.

Your coins is really not enough to continue to the 4th bet based on your bet history.

Haven't heard of a "multiplier"?

lmao . it is just a part of gambling , do you expect that it is easy to win at gambling or do you think that you cannot encounter a lost . stop crying for your lost it is not a scam it is just a gambling of course you risked your money so you should expect that you could lose your money . you just got a lost 3x in a row well i've got a 7x lost in a row before and i've lost most of my coin .  ;D ;D

I am seeing nowadays the users when loosing on continuous streak they start to blame the gambling sites why when they are winning continuously for more than 10 times did you come here and start a thread regarding winning high on continuous streaks.  you lost 3 times continuously but what others told are correct their are players who lost on 10 or above streak also. why i was playing on one site at 99% winning chance after 22nd bet i lost 4 times continuous , i lost most but i never complained because i know that when the system knew my betting will surely beat me in game.

if you cannot afford to bear the loss then better to leave the gambling and do some other work.

Its just unfortunate for you, losing 3 times in a streak is not a big deal i ever lost 12 times in a row eventhough its not 90%, you can always check their fairness with provably fair
Primedice is one of the oldest dice site and one of the most trusted site, so i dont think they are scamming you

Even if he used a x10.99 or any kinds of multiplier it should be betting without any errors maybe its on your connection sometimes i experience this kind of error in other dice sites when i leave the bot for hours trying to hit the jackpot.

Maybe its just a visual bug on his browser side or primedice's side. The picture shows enough balance for the said bet though.

Didn't you check what you quoted? It stopped because of insufficient balance. nothing related to internet connection or whatsoever

All these allegations which OP stated have nothing to prove his claim in my opinion as well. What I see when you go with fix idea that you have some working method of strategy or relay too much on martingale.If results are not according to your expectations then you just throw some words in accusation. Primedice is trustworthy and undisputed dice site everyone here knows this.You need to know gambling is sure way of loosing with small chances on winning everywhere.

that website that you have posted here in your first post is a scam website and i suggest anybody else egainst ever clicking on that link because that is at the very least a bad strategy just trying to do some advertising on the site and at worst case scenario it is a mlicious site and will infect your computer.

Martingale isn't a good strategy, you always can have a bad strike row with more than 3 losings. As i see on the image is that you haven't enought bits for next bet.

lost in 3 times,and use strategy to play on primedice,then you said primedice is scam?its not make sense,peope will not believe in you,you should blame people who create www.primedicestrategy.com,i think they not happy with primedice succesfull.
and now primedice going better.

"The Martingale Betting System works but primedice is rigged" Lol yes ! Martingale so works you are a genius. How is it you found out this wonderful martingale but not a single person on this entire forum has not. Wow you are special !! Mr newbie with a whole entire 14 posts. Clearly you are an advanced mathimatician and have discovered a breakthrough. Amazing ! Maybe you should sell your method. Clearly your method proves fairness and legitimacy of a site.

All gambling games at every site is a scam and but using your advanced method we can prove this. You truly are a highly evolved being. With your fail safe methods and intelligent comments.....  ::)

i wont say you are moron... but you are, today you came on pd chat and you spammed with that 2$ domain like its pure gold!

and on this picture you showed us... you started with basebet 500, next one was aprox 900% UP, then after that to 60k raise, THEN HOW THE HELL YOU THINK YOU HAD BALANCE for next bet when you would need aprox 600k+ if you went with patern aprox 900% raise on lose? :)

tctctc

edit: today you have found out that you are not so smart when it comes to numbers :)

That is not fair when we lost than this casino suddenly turned into scam, while when we enjoying winning streak than everything looking wonderful with betting there, we must learn what is responsible gambling and how big risks it have there.

This is what happens when you don't stay in school kids!

I'm convinced. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Nice one and nice proof.. i think i experience it also when i was winning something and lose 3 times a wrong i thought that it was normal but as you said its a scam.. maybe i will contact the primedice because i always experience it..  :D

if autobet stoped without reason thats not end of the world you can manualy play fourth bet easily

First of all, martingale doesnt work forever, sooner or later you will go bust. And besides that, how does autobet stopping mean PD is scam ?
btw your "proof" is mindblowing, just like your math obv :/

yeah, thats true and he would have most probably did that in my opinion, its nice to see those newbie accounts popping up from time to time saying that the most reputable dice game is a scam :D

Based on your picture, you set increase on lose more than 1000%. While your 3rd bet was 60k+ sat means that your 4th bet should be 600k+ sat while your balance left is 300k+ sat.
How could you say that you have enough balance for the 4th bet? You need new calculator imho :)

That's what a bad loser is. Still laughing. I'm stuck in a > 1250 red streak on 99x payout --> that's a much smaller probability than your 3 loses on <10. So stop qq.

That is bad example of martingale with low bankroll because low payout does not give guarantee to make 100% sure profit with betting on luck based games, I am pretty sure there is no hole and no way exist into primedice to cheat players by changing the roll result.

LOL, just LOL, you dont have enough balance for a 4th bet, better compute it again my friend.. 8)

fyi theres no strategy exist that gives you solid profit all of those will only work in a short period of time. In remember house always win in gambling no matter what method is that. Theres a lot gambler who lost far higher than you lost but didnt complain. That is just a penny compared to them(even for me). If you cant afford to lost even a small amount then better stay away from gambling and just go full-time in collecting faucet.

I think the guy who started this thread has never lost in any gambling game. Claiming that you got 3 reds on 90% win chance is complete ignorance of the meaning of gambling. I once had 6 straight reds on the same win chance and I lost 0.017 btc in those 6 red rolls. What is that amount compared to less 80k satoshi that he lost. Its good he was using a very conservative strategy and he could recover so easily other than making noise claiming a scam.

You do know that you can manually bet after it stopped (for any reason) right? Also you didn't have enough for the 4th bet... You should actually take the time and do the maths before making baseless complains.

I just...
Everything is summed up here : "The Martingale Betting System works but primedice is rigged"

The Martingale works... I don't even know how to explain you that it's not the case. Martingale does not work, otherwise everyone would earn money at the casino guy ^^

The reason primedice bot stop is because you assigned that when you lose it will multiply to 11x than the actual bet you have. That's why it shows that the time you lose 500 satoshi it is being multipled by 11 that is equal to 5495 satoshi  and you lose on 2nd bet again that multiply your actual bet to x11 again that is equal to .00060390 and the 3rd bet is you lose again that multiply your actual bet to x11 again that is equal to 0.0066429. And obviously seeing in your funds you don't have enough money to multiply your actual bet to x11 that's why the bot stop.

FUNDS LEFT:
.00302654

1st lose on bet: .00000500 > 2nd bet ready and multiplied 11x = .00005495
2nd lose on bet: .00005495 > 3rdbet ready and multiplied 11x = .00060445
3rd lose on bet: .00060445 > the bot can't manage to multiply your funds to x11 because it is way higher than the funds that is left.
ASSUME YOU WANT TO CONTINUE 4th bet:
.00060445 x 11 = 0.00664895 (THIS IS THE BITCOIN YOU NEED TO CONTINUE) ==> but your actual fund is .00302654 >That's why the bot stopped.

It's not scam OP it's just that you don't know how to calculate the betting system.

The best proof i am convinced too :P

I know my math was off a bit ;)

while i do believe primedice is a scam due to recent events, you losing on 1.1x 3 times in a row is very common and is no way any proof that they're a scam.
and no, martingale is not a working system.

Your bet so much. Primedice not scam. Just unlucky. Good luck for u !!

You didn't had funds to continue autobet as told above you needed around 0.006 but actual funds in your account were 0.003

What actually happened is that your balance went below the amount calculated for the next bet. The next bet was more than the balance in your account that why a popup "Insufficient funds" would also pop up and the autobet will stop.

This is no reason to call PrimeDice a scam site.

You didn't have enough money for next bet. It would take like 600k satoshi while your balance was only 300k satoshi.

there's no wrong with that.. i think you didnt calculate it correctly.