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I actually mean playing poker professionally,like taking part in tournament's,etc.
Do you think that it is considered all across the world as gambling?

it more job then gambling

If money is still involved then it is still gambling. If you play without any bribe then that's not gambling. Simple as that.

Partially yes.

For example, bluffing is taking a huge gamble. The main difference between professional poker and poker on the internet would probably be reading the cards of the opponents, doing the right betting strategy, et cetera. It it also a psychological game, which takes a lot of time and effort to master.

As long as you cannot predict the outcome, it's a gamble.

I think yes, that is the reason why all the casino has poker game, when it involves betting money is called gambling, but the one you are talking about is the competition so in my point of view its not gambling because the money you can win its the prize money, not the money you win during the game

Well poker is not just a game based purely on luck. That is why if you can master how to bluff and expose people, you will be able to win a lot in poker. There is already a lot of famous world examples that lives purely on pokers.

yes it was a gambling but it also becomes a job because some people don't have the main job besides enrolling world tournaments of poker and also some of them could make living from their poker activities because i was heard too the prizes from poker tournament is so huge

If there is money involve we can say it that its gambling but if there is no money involve and they are just playing for skills .. we can not call it gambling activity they are just having fun without money involve.

Poker is part of gambling which is very poker and played around the world. This is game where heavy money is gambled both online and in physical casinos. Poker is skill based as long as you are playing all time is calculated as gambling activity for sure. There is no question in this.

Poker per se its one of the most truly gambling activity in the world. However if you are being sponsored meaning that someone else pays for your entrance in a tournament or some tournaments in this case for me is a job. You can win the tournament and split the winnings with your sponsor if you are truly skillful. But if you pay money from your own to enter a poker tournament that definitely is gambling.

Poker tournament is just when everyone have limited amount of chips on the table, but any way you buy those chips and you bet on your cards.
Playing poker is gambling activity, and playing professionally means that you make a living with money from poker. Its not easy, and poker requires certain skills. For me poker tournaments are much better then cash game, everyone have same amount of chips, and the one who have the best skills will take chips from everyone. In cash game, the one with biggest bankroll have much more chances to win, cause he can pay everything and eventually he will take your all in.

To me poker is a game. I only play on freerolls so it is not gambling. But I win prizes :)

Yes it's gambling.

It isn't the same as dice sit, roulette, blackjack, and other gambling games because it is possible to be better at poker than your opponents, therefore it's possible to make +ev bets in poker, therefore it's possible to win more than you lose.

It's still gambling because a +ev bet does not guarantee that you will win, because the wrong card can get turned over and cost you everything.

if you are play regularly,  taking part in many official tournaments, are training in poker and you are earning for life with poker, them means its your job and profession, as other sports like football and basketballs and etc.

for me, professional poker is as sport and all professionals are sportsmen

 I think yes, unless you are a really pro poker professional, and you "work" while playing poker! or you can earn the money from your life from poker. But there are 1/100k as professional poker...others are simply "chicken" on a table with some cards .  ::)

I think it is gambling and skill. Probably skill a little more than gambling cause good players seem to always win

I dont think this debate will ever end.  No, its not all luck but even the best players can go on horrible runs so I do believe it to be a form of gambling.

off course playing poker is a gambling activity

All you do in gambling is gambling activity not only in poker but in dice,casino,sports betting,etc anything else you do in a day are your activity. :D :D

Yes it is considered as gambling in my opinion. Freerolls Tournament, Cash Tournament in poker are still gambling. If you win you will get money, If you lose on freeroll you lose nothing but the time you spent playing only and effort, if you lose in cash tournament you lose your buy-in, time and effort. Its like just playing dice with faucet, You still gamble to win.

No. Poker is a skill game. But it can be gambling if you want it to be. Just go all in every hand. ;D

when you don't know what you are doing then everything will turn to gambling , so poker for newbies is gambling but those newbies will have better results and they will start making money when they understand the game
it's possible to make money constantly in poker but you need to have the skills for that , and those skills require experience
so basically in poker every player start as a loser when he just starts playing , but with time and if you study the game you will start making money

It's is both. You cannot be sure of the outcome (except in rare situations when you know you can't lose) so it is gambling.

The skill part is knowing when the right times to put your money in the pot, but you still need the cards to come out the way you want them to.

No because poker is more skill based and is a sport and just like any other sport its not gambling but rather skill. You wouldn't pay money to watch someone play the slots would you ?

gambling has a clear definition so i think playing poker even professionally falls under the category of gambling. because there are two most important factors of gambling involved in it: Money and Risk even if they are winning.

if anybody is playing poker without involvement of these two then no that is not gambling anymore.

Of course, it is considered gambling. Everything which has betting an amount of money for an unknown outcome is gambling. Professional gambling as well is gambling. Some consider poker as a job if you are doing it professionaly, but it is gambling even though it may be your job. You can count cards, be a professional in poker but you can still lose money in it because you can't 100% know the outcome of the hands.

Definitely is a gambling, it is player vs player gambling game, not a player vs house game, and the house takes rake as the fee, therefore it is a gambling activity.   :D

For online poker yes, very fast and also quickly I enter on tilt. Very skilled players.
Offline poker it like job for me not gamble like online. Most time easy money, real people and slow game do not allow rage a gambling

Poker is gambling, gambling is poker. I don`t know why did you even asked something like this, its common sense. When you say professional poker players that means that people that  play poker live from that, and they don't have any other work.
For me poker is no. 1 gambling activity cause involve more then just clicking and waiting for results. In poker you can take everything with one big lie, or to lose all cause you didn't predict someone else cards. Its not just cards, you need to know how to play the game, you need to have more then one skill, and you can always count on luck like something that happens more or less to anyone of us.
Anytime you put a bet you are gambling, in poker you gambling on your cards. There is no much discussing about this matter.

Even poker is skill based game but it used for gambling, a lot of skilled people making very huge money by playing poker, some are losing with poker there so that we can say this poker is gambling, I am also pretty sure about poker is no more than just gambling.

Of course it is, that's why there is a buy in, and even if its free, there is prize and you are competing with other people as time as your investment.

Poker is one branch or game of gambling like any other. Poker when you are playing with intention of making money then it is pure form of gambling. If you are just playing risk free then this is a simple source of fun. Poker is straight gambling which is skill based and for real players with strategies and tricks to win.

Yes, poker is gambling. Some people have developed more skill and are better at this form of gambling than others.

So do you think that a skill-based game that involves money is not a gambling, and gambling is only about all in? If so, you are wrong. Gambling is something that make us to risk our money in order to get some profit imho, so playing poker is also a gambling activity unless you play it without money.

yeah it is definitely a skill game, but it is like that in real world, but not in online poker i guess.

professional poker players treat it more of a sport than a gambling, but technically it is a gambling in its
basic form. the reason why professional poker player don't treat it as gambling is because it has a ranking
system of 1st-3rd place and have the same rules as any other sports and even if you won the game the total
chips that you earn is not the actual prize they have a different prize for every spot from 1st-3rd place just like
any other sports.

Playing poker is a gambling activity but if you are playing at a professional level then you can also see it as a sport, with poker you can make much money.
Poker is one of the only gambling games that will allow you to make some serious money with it.

Yes it is gambling and no it is not gambling... it depends on your definition and the rules/entry into the activities.

To me, gambling means risking something of value in exchange for a possible payout of a higher value.  The "thing" you risk doesn't have to be btc or money... If you spend time on a new altcoin or website project, aren't you gambling that the time you spent (risked) will produce a higher payout in the future?  It is not casino gambling, but I think there are lots of ways to "gamble".

Back to the original post and technical definition... if the poker players are risking something of value in order to play, and there is something of value being offered as a reward for playing, then yes, it is gambling.  If it doesn't cost anything to play (players do not have to risk something of value), then they are only gambling with time, and to many, this is not gambling at all.

So, yes and no.  There are always multiple sides and viewpoints and the only way to decide if it is gambling or not is to define what gambling means to you.

Good Luck All!

poker if no money, then its only a game. but poker with money then its called gambling game. its just my opinion because in my neighborhood, my friend do card game, but with no money, just playing for fun. and sometimes, even if i do not know, they do with the money.

I was asking this question in this topic,because i wanted to know what do people involed in bitcoin think about playing poker for money.
I think it is a job also,because if you a successful player who can really play good poker,then it is possible to make a decent income out of it.
I also think that it is very hard to play poker for a living,you need to be pretty much insane in this game,at least that is my theory :D

though it also requires a lot of luck in my opinion because without luck you cannot win anything in my opinion too, i think that poker is gambling activity too

Basically we first we should consider  the grounds on how things are really considered as gambling.  If we just use a dictionary, we can tell that everything here on earth are gamble. But  we need to take it in to a deeper analysis.  There are grounds where poker are considered gambling when " luck was the predominant element.  In  case like tournament where every one is given a fair chance and not merely base on luck and chance, this is more likely a game of skill. 

first of all not every thing in this world is a gamble, do you know why we have calculation formula?
it is to know what will the outcome be, once you know the outcome it is not a gamble anymore.
second, you're saying that in a normal poker game is based on luck and the tournament is based
on skills right? this element that you are talking about is needed in both tournament or normal poker
game there is no predominant element in this game the only difference is that how people/professional poker
player treat a normal poker game and the tournament poker game.

Well the calculation formula as far as i  know is for risk management.  There are always variable factor that may affect the outcome  of  your so called result in the calculation. You may argue on this but that is the fact.  Using calculation formula has risk itself :D  because it is not 100% reliable. It is a gamble to use that calculation but we do because it mitigate or limit the risk we have to face. as for the normal and tournament i agree that both are the same but in some instance, one player has little knowledge about the game and face with veteran (normal play) that is a gamble on that players part :D

If money is involved then yes it is gambling, I will say not only that, but in any game, if you involve the bet on money in there then you are playing gambling game.

Bad work according to me because of the gambling remain gambling although in made as the work and despite only limited tournament

It is considered gambling only if you are gambling money. There are many different versions of Poker. For example "Strip Poker" which means instead of losing money, you lose your clothes.

Sure calculation is not 100% reliable, Sure using a calculation has its risk but a simple 1+1=2 is a fact that it can give a right outcome and breaking the risk that we have to take its not just limiting the risk we have to take but it can completely remove it :D. now that you clarify between an amateur player and a professional player, an amateur player do need a little bit of luck :D.

You are wrong on this because what i know that everything in this world is sure gambling to achieve something, like in gambling games you need to gamble to get some profit and on work you need it to get some promotion so you need it to get something different. Although you can calculate it doesnt mean that you can predict what is the outcome because there is still house edge that will lessen your winning chanc

All of that can be true and it can still be gambling.

Casino owners make their living via gambling. they are gambling every time they or their employees spin a roulette wheel or deal a blackjack hand.

With poker (and running a casino) it is possible to make "good" bets, and then it's possible to be both a viable "job" and still be gambling.

Yes, i think it's include on gambling, because you also risk your money on that table and it also can be called as a job, because many pro players out there can earn much money from poker.

According to oxford dictionary,
Gamble: Play games of chance for money; bet:

So no matter which game you play(poker or others) and how you play(professionally or just for fun), if you put money on the line on an event with uncertain outcome, it's gambling.

i suggest you read the post above you, i explained the reason why everything in this world not a gambling, sure gambling is
a gamble you cant take that out but, but you are talking about the world which consist everything in this planet, it is impossible that everything in this world is a gamble. i'll give you a simple equation 1+1=2, this simple is very simple yet can be applied on everything that can be calculated it may not always be right but with enough knowledge you can come up with the right answer and expelling the gambling over it.

for me yes because you are aiming to win and their always a money pot from those tournament so we can still consider it as gambling.

Gamble: to play at any game of chance for money or other stakes. 2. to stake or risk money, or anything of value, on the outcome of something involving chance: to gamble on a toss of the dice. verb (used with object), gambled, gambling.

You are playing for the chance to win money or anything else, you are risking anything of value (bitcoin) and the outcome involves chance.
All around the world poker is played with this limits, where I am from we play straight up cash, or even bottles of liquor, vehicles, etc.

To play professionally, well you need talent and practice, reading other people, knowing percentages, when to raise, etc or even something as simple of knowing you have the nuts.

I think it is as their is money involved without any product dealing you are earning or losing it , so whether you are playing with invested or playing freeroll, it will be considered as gambling activity.

Poker is a gambling activity but when you play at professional level then you can also say that it is somewhat of a sport even tho you are sitting on your ass all day.
If they can consider chess a sport then poker should also be called a sport.

To people who say it's gambling....
Oh ok so do we have professional slot and dice tournaments ?
Why do you think that is ? Poker have professional players and it's a sport and on TV and sanctioned and everything. Are slots sanctioned ? Are slots on TV ? Would you pay to watch someone play slots ? No, but you pay to watch poker. If poker were gambling there would be no professionals.

So if you think poker is like gambling then go play against professionals , since its gambling and luck it won't matter who you play against.

Omg some peoples logic outstounds me !  ??? :P

Though i think, gambling is not all about money, i think it is about winning or losing something, regardless of the bet, fighting or looking forward for an outcome with certain chance is gambling. hehe.. 8)

a regular or professional poker players are considered as more than gabling it's a carier due they earn money through this activity for years , for us who only occasionally play poker i think it's what called as gambling. we have no experience and no knowledge to play poker, just bet and waiting for the outcome , rely on luck.

I don't agree with you do you think if you are playing basketball  and you will win or lose do you call it gambling?
For no its a sports that there is win and lose..
Gambling is always involve money to bet that's why we called it gambling..

If they have to pay money to enter the tournament then of course it is gambling.  I don't understand how it couldn't be.  I just looked up the term "gamble" and it says "play games of chance for money; bet."  It doesn't matter if they are doing it professionally for a job, they are still playing a game of chance for money.

What does being professional have to do with it?

There are professional poker players, professional sports bettors, professional horse bettors, etc. They are all still gambling.

noun
1.
the activity or practice of playing at a game of chance for money or other stakes.
2.
the act or practice of risking the loss of something important by taking a chance or acting recklessly:

How does poker not fall into that definition? If you find a poker player that never puts money into the pot when they have a chance of losing, you can say they aren't gambling. But since poker is designed to make that impossible, they are gambling.

If being able to do something makes something not gambling, nothing is gambling because casino owners make all of their money by winning bets. if playing poker isn't gambling, neither is playing blackjack as the house, and that certainly doesn't make sense.

For me it nothing more than gambling, I play poker to make profit but it is very nice way to have fun online, some people say it is skill based game on only few players can make very good profit with very low risk factor, but I am pretty sure playing poker is just another form of gambling.

I am also taking poker to do gamble, I have very simple definition of gambling where we put our money it is gambling, I also like to spend my time on poker sites because it is fun but not easy to beat other experienced players, I am just learning more and more about this at the moment.

I suppose so. Wikipedia says poker is a gambling thing

thinking it needs to be one or the other. It is a skill based form of gambling.

It takes skill to know when to bet, fold, raise, etc. the gambling part is that the results are still determined based on the turn of a card.

if you playing poker just for fun is not gambling
but if you playing poker with money of course it called gambling dude

Well if you play poker with someone and bet your money, well its now called gambling. Any games that has a relation/involve in money is a gambling even though that for you its not. I think casino has a poker game, so it is gambling then. 

when you don't know what you are doing then everything will turn to gambling , so poker for newbies is gambling but those newbies will have better results and they will start making money when they understand the game
it's possible to make money constantly in poker but you need to have the skills for that , and those skills require experience
so basically in poker every player start as a loser when he just starts playing , but with time and if you study the game you will start making money.

Is that tournament also need a buy-in or pay some money for join that tournament ? If yes, i think yeah playing poker is also a gambling, because you bet with your money too.

Of course it's gambling.  You're betting money in a game, and any game that you can find in a casino is gambling.   

I assume that religions that prohibit gambling include poker as a subset of that, though I've not talked to god lately.

Some people say that poker is gambling and there are some people say that poker is art counting (can be predicted), what ever your opinions it has high risk so do it with you can lost it.

Not sure why is this even a topic in here. Anyone who has a functioning brain knows that the answer to this question is "Yes." Playing poker is a gambling activity for you are risking your money in hopes that you'll win and the money would return with profit.

OP's asking if it's still a gambling activity if it's in a tournament. Of course, no matter what type of round that is, as long as you risk money, poker is still a gambling activity.



Why wouldn't it be considered as gambling on the other part of the world? The same thing applies to any part of the world. Poker is gambling.

Um...I think it is still a gambling activity, as you don't know the result and betting money on that...

Its known as advantage gambling, i used to play serious and never considered it gambling at all even though money would go up and down.  At the end of the month i was always up since i played so many tables/hands.

Yes , if you playing with money as a bet it's called gambling.
It's doesn't matter playing poker , dice , or sports betting as you deposited your money for betting.

Poker is one of the oldest gamble game, I also like to consider it like other gambling games, it is a little bit a different when we play against other players not with machine, I like to enjoy to play poker but not on regular with my daily routine only when I have nothing to do.

i play poker many times.
but didn't involved money in this game.so it's just a game for me.

Well, poker is a game that comes from the casino, and it is a game that is commonly used for gambling. but if you do not use the betting in play, I think it's just a mind game and not gambling. but this is just my opinion, it is not gambling if you're not risking anything in it

Are you playing on other place than online casino, maybe you are playing with free-rolls tournaments so there you can play the poker without taking risk of money, poker is favorite game of gambling so that I think so playing poker is gambling.

Free roll tournaments are the best, you have fun for free and make a small profit so nice. Playing poker is not gambling entirely. You have a certain level of control over the outcome unlike gambling where you have none.

Sure there's a certain level of control, but in the end whether you lose or not is defined by your luck.

No amount of bluffing or skill is gonna win you any money if you constantly get low cards, luck plays a very important role in poker.

yeah you can call all these games whatever you like, you can call them gambling or you can call them money making machine.
but at the end of the day they are all following the same rule, and that is the rule of luck and it doesn't matter how skilled you are there will always be someone else more skilled than you which will beat you.

Obviously poker itself is know as a best casino games and how can we say its tournament's are not gambling, yes its a gambling with no doubts as we pay/risk something for money !

You risk your time if you play free roll. Everything in life is a gamble really.  Lets say you can multi table 20 freerolls per hour and you average earnings = $5 per hour its a waste of time for most people.

Yes of course,, some this last day in income poker very bad leading up, need refresh first let not too saturated also when playing

poker its all in one. Gambling, job, sport

It Depends Upon the Situation that Poker is Gambling Or Not?
 If you Play With Money Then it is a Gambling Activity But If You Play Without Money Then  it is Not a Gambling Activity....

I think it has been asked in context of putting some money when you are playing poker. Poker is famous game of gambling and as long as you are playing to get some benefit or has chance to win or loose any valuable thing by poker all this thing is considered gambling activity without any doubt.

Well said mate , I agree to this . Many people are of the opinion that poker is based on luck but the professionals know that its a mixture of skill and luck . Yes it is gambling , but its more of a profession for serious players .


Glad that you mentioned , Poker is considered as MIND SPORT .

playing poker is not gambling, but if you bet, of course it is a gambling game. even when you're watching the ball and bet on a particular team, I think it is a gambling game. because everything that has betting is gambling, especially poker games that have been made in public places gambling. This is my opinion

yeah almost game is not gambling if there is no money involve while you are playing.. thats why they are calling it gambling because of we are using money as our bet so that its more trill while you are playing..  poker is use buy casino because more people are playing it its skill base game and depends how you manage your play to win..

Anything that you've bet on becomes a gambling activity. Even if the people that you are betting on have no idea that they are being bet on, what you're doing is a gambling activity. As soon as you say the amount of money you want to bet on a certain person or team, then you're already gambling. But if you're just playing, then it's not gambling at all. It's just a game.

Yes that is the difference between the two which I believe. If money or anything with value is involved then I think it is gambling.Playing alone with it is just play like for example just for entertainment,or for family bonding.

Yes I think it still is. They are professional gamblers, but it's still gambling. Of course they are in completely different levels, it's like soccer for example. I play it for leisure but it's still soccer, and then there is Ronaldo and Messi, etc. They are professionals, but they are still playing soccer, but in a level I can't even imagine.

So, is poker "gambling"?
• Semantically, 'yes' because poker, like most other activities involves taking risks for possible ultimate reward.
• Legally, the answer used to be 'yes' but slowly it is becoming 'no.'
• Pragmatically, 'yes' and 'no' depending on the player's ability to exploit the inherent flexibility in the game.
 from http://www.pokerlistings.com/is-poker-gambling

But well most poker where played in gambling activity, so i think it is yes.

Well poker is a good and challenging game that needs skills to play but many people are playing this without betting something so if there is money involve in the game for me i consider it as gambling activity but if you are playing without any bet its just a game..

Yeah as long as there's money involved it then poker can be considered as a gambling activity.. but if there are none, then it's for fun and entertainment. Just my thoughts on gambling.

Most users here are  saying   the same   thoughts  regarding with this matter , and  im  included  to it also.  Poker is  just a game    for me  but   some people  tend to  put  money  on  it and   this means  its already a gambling  game hence you are already risking  money.

Of course, the topic is like that, so everyone thoughts are same on this topic, even me also the Poker is just a game, but whenever the money is included then, we call it gambling. If we put our money in a risk, it's gambling. So according to me, Poker game is a gambling activity.

Yes it is gambling. Putting a bet in a game is already gambling. There is much money that is taking place on that game so it is considered a high grade of a gamble. Millions are in the pot at the last rounds of the game.

It not the amount of money that makes it gambling, you can gamble for penny stakes at many sites.

The answer to the question is always it depend.  People like tom dwan aren't "gambling" really, just seems like it.  People like guy laliberte are always "gambling".

Yes playing poker is number 1 gambling activity and most of people are love playing poker because it really easy to win and understand the mechanics and if you are playing tournament and then buy the fee then you are playing with money even it's free it's always a gambling because you will win money and so that we considered that poker is gambling.

Some people said poker is game of skill and the other people said it is gambling, but in my opinion poker is play gambling because it can not be predicted and depend on my lucky.

Well if money is involved no matter how small, as some online tournaments have very small buy ins, it's gambling, but it's the only game that's based on your skills and you're fully in control and you are playing against other players and not the house so the saying that the house always win doesn't apply here. Also it can be the most profitable among casino games and even sports betting, specially if you're playing professionally.

Gambling or a game is not determined by lucky or prediction, but it is more about money. You can play poker without money and maybe you win because you are lucky, in this case you are playing a game instead of gambling because no money involved.

I don't know if there is a poker game that doesn't have bet because all gambling activities requires money and bet with it. Playing poker is just not going to be a gambling activity if you are just going to play with your friends and no stake at all. But with stake, then for sure playing poker is a gambling activity and will remain as it is.

Yes playing poker is a gambling activity, being part of a poker tournament is a gambling also because you are competing to win the tournament prize. Just remember any game that has a risk of gaining money or losing money is gambling. Even investing is a gambling also.

Actually being professional poker player is the only serious job I consider serious when someone is taking about gambling.
You can't be professional Dice, Roulette or Slots player - with Poker it is different because - it is probably the only card game where your sill actually matters.

Poker is a gambling activity if you are playing with money, and it was created to become gambling games, but poker can become games if you are playing without the real money, so it depends on how you play and in my opinion joining poker tournament is consider as gambling activity

Those people are right about that but it is combination of both things, skill and luck. That is poker, and when there is luck associated with monetary value involved for it then surely that is gambling. I don't know if there is a poker game that is not gambling at all.


It is not called a job either because you are not assured and compensated as you play poker.

Playing poker is not to be called gambling it is gabling games , but playing with a bet will be gambling now .
If you played proffesionally it depends on how you will play if you will play to represent a country it is not a gambling.
if you played in a company it is called a job .
I think this 3 is the differences .

-Silverpunk-

Even if you are not giving in any input of bitcoin but you are giving your time to play the tournaments, so i think it will be considered as gambling. As their the winning the bitcoins or the prize money is matters.

Very well said   , these  things  i could  also to think off  about playing  poker. I want to add its  just really a card  game  which does people would really to  put  up   money on  it   to increase  the   thrill and entertainment   thats  why  its  already called  a  gambling game  hence   it already  involves money  and as we all know   in  gambling   youare risking your  money to earn  money .

No Bro Playing Poker is Only Considered as Gambling when Someone Start Betting Money In It Otherwise It can Not Be Considered as Gambling......
Its Just a Game Which Can't Be Play For Money......

Not at all times .,as long as there is no money involved it will not be gambling at all .when you or i put a bet it is gambling ,but playing professionally on gambling needs a good skills a veteran skills and that will depends on how a professional poker player will play a game in a tournament.

Well that could be right but in my life I have not played poker without bet, even with fake money that is just considered as you are betting. And with money at stake that is a good think to exercise your  skills and to improve it because you are surely gonna take it seriously.

Actually playing poker is not necessarily gambling. Because if we play poker without betting it can not be called gambling. I often play cards with my friends, but there was no betting, it can not be called gambling. If we play poker with bets that include gambling, because I bet with money belonging to the gambling.

You're both right.i also played some card games and not betting at all with my friends just to kill some time on boring thats not gambling .putting a bet like Chief Positid said is a good then for you to be serious in playing so you will think more than like a pro to win on a bet .but it isn't conncted with playing a professional .

What?!!!! When you put money in a game it is gambling. Hell, even those who just shoots the last ball in a gameplay is just a gamble. Try just playing a game without money example is dice. Will it still be fun for you just rolling that dice?

Yes playing is a party of gambling activity. Everything about life is gambling, even Poker. It is all matters with anticipating outcome of winning that you do by chance. Pokers require a skill, a very serious one. Poker is a form of gambling and a game of skill as well. Actually almost every competition is gambling.

Just playing poker game is not a gambling activity, while playing poker if you put your money in a risk then it is gambling activity. Yes, Poker game requires more knowledge to win this game. But many people play this game without money just to learn this game for them this game is not gambling activity.

Not everything in life is gambling, you can't call picking a banana a gambling, you can't call harvesting as gambling, they are all part of survival, but, if you are putting a bet in it, or there is risking involved... For example, you want to pick banana, but you want to compete with others or you dare them that you could pick certain number of banana in an hour with the bet of $1, then that's gambling. But anyway, poker, if you are playing against yourself in real life, that's not gambling, and in online you are playing with bot and no money involve, that's not gambling.

To simplify your statement, anything that's competition and there's money involve is considered as a gambling activity and most gamblers do it because it will give more value of the things you will do. Poker is not gambling is no money involved as we can still play it without a bet. Besides, it's just a game.

Remember that even the elections can be a gambling as we are betting between Hillary and Trump now.

Playing poker is a gaming cause you are still leaving a large chance of result to luck. However, poker also relay on the skill of the players to have an edge over the others. So in this case, unless you are very capable of using your skills to increase the winning chances by a lot, otherwise it will be a gamble.

i agree with this because as long as we don't use money then its only a game and we play poker to increase our skill and we need to practice more and more so that can be useful when we are playing with other opponent and we can use our skill if we want to playing poker gambling with others player.