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Title: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 18, 2016, 02:01:21 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Jmild1 on July 18, 2016, 02:30:57 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...
Facebook has their own ToS to be follow. We should stick with that because it's their own site and we're just participating with facebook site that Mark Zuckerberg owns. I don't see any reason how facebook is the one responsible in it since we'd give a freedom to use it freely as long as we don't violate any certain ToS.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 18, 2016, 02:44:15 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...
Facebook has their own ToS to be follow. We should stick with that because it's their own site and we're just participating with facebook site that Mark Zuckerberg owns. I don't see any reason how facebook is the one responsible in it since we have freedom to use it and as long as we don't violate any certain ToS.

Totally agree with you! It's their property...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: virtualx on July 18, 2016, 03:55:32 PM
Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?

Yes, because they claim to own the content in their ToS. If you are the owner of data you should be responsible or it. There were a lot of legal issues with a guy from Austria trying to get a copy of his facebooks data.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: designerusa on July 18, 2016, 06:26:22 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

Of course, facebook is completely responsible for the posts of its members..facebook is the biggest and the most powerful social media site for that reason its admins must check all the posts that have been being shared by its users to prevent possible future crimes.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 18, 2016, 09:42:32 PM
Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?

Yes, because they claim to own the content in their ToS. If you are the owner of data you should be responsible or it. There were a lot of legal issues with a guy from Austria trying to get a copy of his facebooks data.


Ahaha this is super smart argument and it could work in my opinion... I love it because it's their own strength used against them... Thank you for sharing it ;-)


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Strongkored on July 19, 2016, 12:26:15 AM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

Of course, facebook is completely responsible for the posts of its members..facebook is the biggest and the most powerful social media site for that reason its admins must check all the posts that have been being shared by its users to prevent possible future crimes.

Yeah i agree with you. facebook admin is supposed to monitor users. To avoid things that are not desirable as fraud or other things. Because we know facebook is a great company. And of course they are responsible for our members. I think what if facebook has moderated as this forum is always supervise members: D


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: escrowboy on July 19, 2016, 05:51:00 AM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

Of course, facebook is completely responsible for the posts of its members..facebook is the biggest and the most powerful social media site for that reason its admins must check all the posts that have been being shared by its users to prevent possible future crimes.
Yes they are responsible with the post but as long as the post doesn't violate and certain tos then it's fine.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: helloeverybody on July 19, 2016, 06:06:00 AM
Facebook should be help responsible and should have to moderate certain things. As it is it already gets bad for so much porn and unwanted videos spread all over the place. Theres no need for that kind of things and worse on facebook. It wasnt designed to be a decentralised source of anything you want to say. Its simply a social site to connect with friends and family, No need to turn it into a cesspool .


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: apollofire on July 19, 2016, 06:07:16 AM
I think so. Facebook should own up the responsibility as they are making profits from their platform.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 19, 2016, 10:13:46 AM
Facebook should be help responsible and should have to moderate certain things. As it is it already gets bad for so much porn and unwanted videos spread all over the place. Theres no need for that kind of things and worse on facebook. It wasnt designed to be a decentralised source of anything you want to say. Its simply a social site to connect with friends and family, No need to turn it into a cesspool .

It's designed to make money for the shareholders...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: groll on July 19, 2016, 01:09:23 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

Yes and no. Yes because Facebook has allowed too much freedom to users to post what they like and their security protocols such as post blockers has not set limits to post that may set damage. No, because Facebook cannot fully control all the messages posted on their site, they also cannot act or make an action if there are no reports. So in short Facebook should increase censorship and the users should also cooperate and report troublesome posts.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 19, 2016, 02:08:54 PM
But if they own the content posted by terror organizations, they themselves become a terror support group? Seems logical  ???


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 19, 2016, 02:13:07 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

They could try. But what if the terrorists or people who support the terrorists set up a node and fund it themselves? How can they stop P2P networks when more and more people will get serious in using it? If they attempt to criminalize running a P2P node then they will push it to the underground. That is something they don't want to happen because it woild even more impossible for them to stop it.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: coinzat on July 19, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
Facebook is not responsible for every single content is written on it. they have more than billion accounts so how is it possible to control all of these people ? you can help FB by reporting any harmful content you see


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 19, 2016, 02:18:44 PM
Facebook is not responsible for every single content is written on it. they have more than billion accounts so how is it possible to control all of these people ? you can help FB by reporting any harmful content you see

Because they chose to own the content... In a p2p node you don't own the content and most of the time you can't even know what is transiting through your node... Completely different situation.

Facebook is providing an information technology platform to terrorists and are owner of the content published on it... They are active participants in the support of terrorist organizations ;-).

1billion seems low... The plaintiffs should raise to 100billions ;-).


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: electronicash on July 19, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
they also give the users the duty to report whenever there is something that isn't right.
so users are also responsible to the contents they posts.  so its never facebook's fault if their platform is use by terrorist. the authorities should have the chance to monitor then becuase they are jsut on facebook. its a lot harder for them if they stay on dark web.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 19, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
they also give the users the duty to report whenever there is something that isn't right.
so users are also responsible to the contents they posts.  so its never facebook's fault if their platform is use by terrorist. the authorities should have the chance to monitor then becuase they are jsut on facebook. its a lot harder for them if they stay on dark web.

The duty... Lol you get robbed from your content and have the "duty" to police the site... What a value losing proposition... Synereo or a competitor has a great future;-)


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 19, 2016, 03:27:52 PM
I think yeah but i think facebook have own TOS that we should follow but many people are against of the tos..
So the posted of terorist attack they can not seen it fast so bot can not block their post.
Its not fault by facebook..


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: nururochac on July 19, 2016, 04:22:06 PM
Facebook should be help responsible and should have to moderate certain things. As it is it already gets bad for so much porn and unwanted videos spread all over the place. Theres no need for that kind of things and worse on facebook. It wasnt designed to be a decentralised source of anything you want to say. Its simply a social site to connect with friends and family, No need to turn it into a cesspool .
You should be aware too that there's a report button on the option of the post where you can do it and be seen by Facebook, don't expect that Facebook can easily detect because this site is not perfect as what you think. They still need a notification of a reported post if it do really violated their ToS.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: J Gambler on July 20, 2016, 02:07:30 PM
Of course not!  It is a social networking site and anyone can post whatever, whichever topic they like.  It is our fault of course if we make awful things reflecting ourselves.  It is like you are giving people a chance to know ypu and to judge you as a human.  And you post what you like others to see you or whatnothers would think about you.  Not the real you.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Jmild1 on July 20, 2016, 02:11:34 PM
Of course not!  It is a social networking site and anyone can post whatever, whichever topic they like.  It is our fault of course if we make awful things reflecting ourselves.  It is like you are giving people a chance to know ypu and to judge you as a human.  And you post what you like others to see you or whatnothers would think about you.  Not the real you.
What others cannot understand is Facebook is just a way for you to give freedom and post things that you know doesn't violate their rules and regulation, if you know somehow you violated it then you should expect your post and might also your account to be suspended.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: jupiterdianysa on July 20, 2016, 11:35:43 PM
i cantt really believe that people can take this into consideration :D


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 20, 2016, 11:53:55 PM
i cantt really believe that people can take this into consideration :D

Me neither ;-) it was a joke! Facebook innocent... It's completely nuts to even think to attack them... Why? 1. It's groundless and 2 they are gonna crunch their opponents under such legal power that nothing left from them will be once the best lawyers money can buy will have finished with those lunatics... Get real. Those people wanna steal one billion from the claws of the shareholders of Facebook, that's it.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: escrowboy on July 21, 2016, 05:29:47 AM
i cantt really believe that people can take this into consideration :D
How can you say so? People who agree and disagree on their statement give a valid reason why they said it. And I think this is to draw a line what should we think in facebook's responsibility.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: hase0278 on July 21, 2016, 10:16:42 AM
In my opinion facebook is not responsible for the content posted by their users because of several reasons. The first reason is that the user is the one who post not them so they should not be responsible for the content posted by their users. The second reason is that since facebook is automated the posting filter is done by bots. The third and last reason is that they have the ToS, and the users must have read it and they should follow according to it. I suggest facebook though to prioritize moderation than advertisements.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: nururochac on July 21, 2016, 01:56:44 PM
Well in my opinion facebook is not responsible for the content posted by their users because of several reasons. The first reason is that the user is the one who post not them so they should not be responsible for the content posted by their users. The second reason is that since facebook is automated the posting filter is done by bots. The third and last reason is that they have the ToS, and the users must have read it and they should follow according to it. I suggest facebook though to prioritize moderation than advertisements.
They are not responsilble when it comes to freedom of the user trying to post things but they should be held responsible for a user that violated rules on his post and yet it didn't get removed by Facebook.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: jupiterdianysa on July 21, 2016, 03:17:36 PM
How anyone could think facebook is responsible for what they say! Its funny :D  if you cant defend  your words its better not to say it tho! Its for stupid people who always blaim other people for their own mistakes...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: virtualx on July 21, 2016, 05:04:44 PM
How anyone could think facebook is responsible for what they say! Its funny :D  if you cant defend  your words its better not to say it tho! Its for stupid people who always blaim other people for their own mistakes...
If you create a file sharing site (like facebook) it's very usual that owners of the site are responsible. Sometimes the owners go to jail for hosting illegal content, even if users upload it.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: entrepmind23 on July 21, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
I think facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users because it is their website and property but we can't deny the fact that though there are admins that will monitor the posts, there are millions of users so they cannot monitor it one by one. We can help them by reporting some contents if we think there is a violation of their TOS.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: RealityTruth on July 21, 2016, 05:49:20 PM
yes it is.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: bitdumper on July 21, 2016, 06:29:37 PM
no, i think Facebook can only make its security primitives stronger by using a good infrastructure but as because it is used a lot of people around the world so there are  a lot of chances then someone can damage our nature


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 21, 2016, 11:07:43 PM
Well in my opinion facebook is not responsible for the content posted by their users because of several reasons. The first reason is that the user is the one who post not them so they should not be responsible for the content posted by their users. The second reason is that since facebook is automated the posting filter is done by bots. The third and last reason is that they have the ToS, and the users must have read it and they should follow according to it. I suggest facebook though to prioritize moderation than advertisements.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: jupiterdianysa on July 22, 2016, 01:16:21 AM
How anyone could think facebook is responsible for what they say! Its funny :D  if you cant defend  your words its better not to say it tho! Its for stupid people who always blaim other people for their own mistakes...
If you create a file sharing site (like facebook) it's very usual that owners of the site are responsible. Sometimes the owners go to jail for hosting illegal content, even if users upload it.

yea thats true but most of time person who typed there is sued, not the facebook or twitter or any other sharing platform itself.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: romero121 on July 22, 2016, 05:54:02 AM
Facebook and most other social networking websites have made a perfect infrastructure in their security features. The problem is with the user who without knowing the using access just makes problem.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Maesters1- on July 22, 2016, 05:14:22 PM
will i do not believe that face book will have such a big role in this issue. because it is a mixture of every kind of people just posting most of their local issues. so i dont think so that face book will be responsible for that.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: CroSany on July 24, 2016, 06:00:15 PM
I think that they are rensposinble.That is their mystake.I think that CIA controll facebook so facebook maybe help to therorists because of America influence.Facebook was added that we must have messanger so poor decide.Thes should better add signature campaign.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Hirose UK on July 24, 2016, 10:40:22 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

nope. facebook or Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have any responsibble if the content posted by facebook users. I've ever heard in Indonesia, a man insulted mr. president and then he was arrested for a few days/weeks.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 25, 2016, 02:40:51 PM
The real problem that Facebook may face in this is that they own the contents... A classical case of too much greed...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Jmild1 on July 25, 2016, 03:44:35 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

nope. facebook or Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have any responsibble if the content posted by facebook users. I've ever heard in Indonesia, a man insulted mr. president and then he was arrested for a few days/weeks.
A rant should be a freedom and never be a violation, if that guy harms no one and just speak his opinion then what's wrong with that? You should also counter it with argument not a physical action.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 25, 2016, 05:51:30 PM
There is an anticonstitutionalist organization that what to make Facebook pay for what the users post on it... They believe Facebook is responsible for terrorists attacks ???

 In my opinion it is insane. Beside the assault of the second amendment there is a strong community worldwide fighting to dismantle freedom of speech too...

Anyway good luck censoring steem, synero or what ever uncensorable networks... What I fear is that once they get Facebook responsible they could then censor and make everyone hosting a node on a p2p network responsible...

nope. facebook or Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have any responsibble if the content posted by facebook users. I've ever heard in Indonesia, a man insulted mr. president and then he was arrested for a few days/weeks.
A rant should be a freedom and never be a violation, if that guy harms no one and just speak his opinion then what's wrong with that? You should also counter it with argument not a physical action.

I strongly agree with you!! Speech what ever the content should be protected worldwide. O RESTRICTIONS. it's just words!!! There is no responsibility in words... For example the constitution is just words, it's the actual backing that make it into reality...


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: Masha Sha on July 25, 2016, 05:57:44 PM
When it comes to censoring wiki leaks email of the demonistas they are fast... So if they can censor for their political agenda but not terrorist groups what does it means???


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: jupiterdianysa on July 26, 2016, 11:58:36 PM
There are some borders,  cant write whatever they think just bc its virtual
People have right to sue written content such as abusing


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: gabmen on July 27, 2016, 02:00:22 AM
Facebook should not be responsible for each content posted by their users. People should know their limitations. On the other hand, Facebook should also have additional security protocols when signing up which limits under aged individuals in using the service.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: zeaderza on July 27, 2016, 02:45:11 AM
Facebook should not be responsible for each content posted by their users. People should know their limitations. On the other hand, Facebook should also have additional security protocols when signing up which limits under aged individuals in using the service.

well facebook already have this under aged rule . less then 18 years can't join facebook. but facebook is just a software. it is not a humen. I see lots of kids joining facebook but they add their age more then 18 years then facebook can't do anything. people should know their on responsibility and stop making facebook fool.

and yea facebook have other rules too.
your account will surley get banned if you do, Abuse, if you copyright other's content .


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: BADecker on July 27, 2016, 10:38:27 AM
Here is what this is all about.

If someone can make Facebook liable for the content of the people posting thereon, then everybody can be made responsible for the content of everybody else in one way or another.

The significance of this is, then government is responsible for everybody.

Why should I care if government people are responsible for everyone? If they are responsible, then they have the authority to get into the lives of everyone in a personal way. And freedom goes out the window.

8)


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: oOxenonOo on July 28, 2016, 01:46:15 PM
No everyone is responsible for posting content about his self, but i agree there need to be psycho test in account registration, some people will regret posts they published in their puberty..


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: wxa7115 on July 28, 2016, 03:47:35 PM
No, Facebook is not responsible for the opinions of others; it’s just that the users can be extremely irresponsible.


Title: Re: Do you think Facebook is responsible for the content posted by their users?
Post by: wowanstrong on July 30, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Facebook is not responsible for the content, content, user pages. But the administration Facebook reserves the right to close the access to certain times of the page. Either can always close to the user page, which violated the rules of Facebook or the country where the registered user.