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Title: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 09:19:18 AM
Ethereum Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Ethereum

Developers will be building on our immutable chain, are you ready? Code is law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxwuoJaJXc


https://i.imgur.com/pUcIIbM.png


Community

http://www.ethereumclassic.org

http://ethcwiki.org/

https://github.com/ethereumproject
https://github.com/ethereumclassic

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/

https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com/ - Slack

https://telegram.me/ethclassic
https://telegram.me/ethereumclassic

https://twitter.com/eth_classic
https://twitter.com/ethereumclassic

https://trello.com/b/aiSzWBm7/ethereum-classic-clients

QQ Groups: 361470220 - 568474359

Russian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328
https://ethclassic.ru

Indonesian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563400

There are no bounties at this time


Exchanges

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc
https://poloniex.com/exchange#usdt_etc
https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ETC

https://www.kraken.com

https://www.bitfinex.com

https://c-cex.com/?p=etc-btc (https://c-cex.com/?rf=135E4D765359D36F&p=etc-btc)

https://shapeshift.io

https://changelly.com

https://bitsquare.io

https://www.bitwa.la

https://www.chbtc.com/etc

https://yunbi.com/markets/etccny?confirm=true

https://bter.com/trade/etc_btc
https://bter.com/trade/etc_eth

https://www.korbit.co.kr/etc_market

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=ETC_BTC

https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETC24H

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ETC/BTC

https://yobit.net/en/trade/ETC/BTC


Wallets and Explorers

https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases
https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip Choose NO fork
You can't have the forked blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

https://info.shapeshift.io/blog/2016/08/03/shapeshift-releases-ethereum-splitter-cleanly-separate-eth-and-etc

https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/
http://classicetherwallet.com

https://etherx.com

http://www.fauceting.com/faucet/74

http://coinmarketcap.com

https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/etc/overview

http://polotrex.com

https://www.etc-eth.com

http://fork.ethstats.net

http://stats.ethc.io

http://etcstats.net

http://www.etcminer.com

http://ethereumwisdom.com/#!/ethclassic (http://ethereumwisdom.com/#!/ethclassic)

https://etcchain.com/

http://blocks.elaineou.com

http://gastracker.io

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com

http://explorer.ethereumclassic.com

https://minergate.com/blockchain/etc/blocks
https://minergate.com/calculator/ethereum


Pools - I can't vouch for any though

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/etc
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/#/pools?f0=ETC

https://etherx.com/pools - Hashrate distribution

http://etc.ethermine.org
https://etc.bw.com
https://f2pool.com
http://ethc.epool.io
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com
https://ethc.coin-miners.info
http://etc.nanopool.org
https://etcpool.io
https://etc.suprnova.cc
https://minergate.com
http://etc.coinpool.biz
http://www.ethteam.com
http://etc.poolto.be
http://yolo.ethclassic.faith
https://ethereum-classic.miningpoolhub.com
http://etc.coinpool.biz
https://www.coinotron.com
http://etc.digger.ws
http://etc.4miners.net
http://etc.akasha-pool.eu
https://aikapool.com/etc
http://etc.pool.sexy
https://pool.zet-tech.eu
https://etcmine.pro


Press

http://fortune.com/2016/09/04/ethereum-fall-out/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxwuoJaJXc - Ethereum Classic Video

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/ethereum-classic-community-navigates-a-distinct-path-to-the-future-1471620464

https://youtu.be/Vgz7k5iTGkI

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@charleshosk/thoughts-on-an-ethereum-classic-roadmap

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/13/ethereum-reputation-has-been-damaged-with-the-finance-and-banking-community/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-the-great-ethereum-schism-can-end-well-for-ethereum-classic-part-2-of-3-cm657748

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/how-the-great-ethereum-schism-can-end-well-for-ethereum-classic-part-of-1469905980

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808

http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/28/ethereum-the-battle-of-the-chains

http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-hard-fork-creates-competing-currencies-support-ethereum-classic-rises/

https://medium.com/@zsfelfoldi/a-tale-of-two-chains-3f6d58a9df4a

https://medium.com/@Stampery/why-stampery-supports-ethereum-classic-4c86ec7cca17

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@cryptorune/a-ethereum-civil-war-is-happening-right-now-and-why-classic-should-win

https://ethereumheadlines.com/2016/07/25/ethereum-classic-is-now-trading-on-poloniex/

http://www.coindesk.com/tale-two-chains-ethereum/

http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/07/26/case-ethereum-classic/

https://steemit.com/dao/@gedae/the-dao-and-the-benefactors

http://themerkle.com/etc-trumps-ethereum-trading-volume-on-poloniex/

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@whalepanda/what-happened-with-ethereum-usdeth-and-ethereum-classic-usdetc


Ideology

We believe in decentralized, censorship-resistant, permissionless, IMMUTABLE blockchains. We believe in the original vision of Ethereum as a world computer you can't shut down, running irreversible smart contracts. We believe in a strong separation of concerns, where system forks are only possible in order to correct actual platform bugs, not to bail out failed contracts and special interests. We believe in censorship-resistant platform that can be actually trusted - by anyone. Code is law.

More: https://medium.com/@bit_novosti/a-crypto-decentralist-manifesto-6ba1fa0b9ede


Motivation

Ethereum Foundation responded to DAO debacle in the worst way possible. Special interests controlling the Foundation are ramming through DAO bailout hardfork against principled opposition of a significant economic minority of Ethereum stakeholders. According to (diligently hidden, pro-fork) coin vote on Carbonvote (http://carbonvote.com/), 19% of ETH holders oppose this hardfork. Also, about 22% of Ethereum miners voted against the previous 'DAO softfork' and would logically oppose hardfork as well. Such a significant minority of stakeholders should not be silenced or intimidated into submission - they should be given a clear choice.

If we want to continue to move forward and guarantee survival of the original Ethereum vision, we must fork Ethereum. This will lay the foundation to build secure decentralized applications that are actually censorship resistant.

More: https://github.com/ethereumclassic/freeworldcomputer-project


Goals

The main goal of the project is to ensure survival of the original Ethereum blockchain. We will strive to provide alternative for people who strongly disagree with DAO bailout and the direction Ethereum Foundation is taking their project. Anyone opting to remain on the original chain should have such opportunity.


Development

We fork Ethereum and maintain upstream patches similar to the relation between Redhat and CentOS, until a community can form around the project and create a road map. Until this happens we can fork multiple existing clients to help prevent a monoculture of clients. We plan to follow https://github.com/ethereum development except for any features they introduce into existing clients that violate the key principles of openness, neutrality and immutability.

Code: https://github.com/ethereumclassic


What can I do?

Please help us spread the word about this project in Ethereum community!


Volunteers

If you feel strongly about the cause, please get involved. With just days before the planned hardfork, we need your support to ensure original Ethereum survival. We need more developers, website designers, people who can write and advocate the need for Ethereum Classic. Please let us know what are your skills and how you would like to contribute. Redditors, please reply here (https://reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4sxupj/making_sure_original_ethereum_survives_please_get/). Github users, please open new issue (https://github.com/ethereumclassic).


Users

In order to remain on the original Ethereum chain, just don't upgrade to hardfork client version pushed by Ethereum Foundation. We will maintain non-fork versions of all major Ethereum clients (as well as other key software), so going forwards all the improvements will be available to you.

Fun fact. If you keep ETH under your direct control (not in a 3rd party wallet or exchange account), you will have two sets of coins instead of one post-fork. You could then install a forked Ethereum client in addition to Ethereum Classic, copy your private keys there and use your coins on both chains! You won't be so lucky if your ETH are locked with 3rd party going into the fork - some exchanges already announced (https://reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4sy7w6/breaking_kraken_on_the_july_20th_ethereum/) that they will only return one type of coin post-fork to its users.


Miners

Miners supporting the original chain should just keep mining with current version of software for now, without upgrading to client version introducing the hardfork code. It will be always possible to download and build latest non-fork version from https://github.com/ethereumclassic.

The difficulty of the original chain will be quite high post-fork, but it will adjust to actual hashrate shortly (just 2048 blocks, a few hours). Since it is expected that most hashrate will move to hardfoked chain, post-adjustment it will be possible to obtain decent mining rewards in classic ethers even with solo mining.

Because the difficulty adjusts quickly, it will be also quite possible to solo mine soon after the fork. If you intend to mine Ethereum Classic, please don't upgrade to geth 1.4.10 just yet, due to potential vulnerability (https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4ti33y/classic_miners_please_use_geth_149/). We will inform you when it's safe to upgrade. For now, just solo-mine with geth 1.4.9 or any earlier version, or use Classic pool.


Traders

https://bitsquare.io/

Most important question for traders is 'will ETHC have market price'? There are all reasons to believe that it will. Essentially, ETHC is an Ethereum 'spinoff coin' with a wide user base of all current ETH users. Some of them will see the value of transacting on a censorship-resistant chain, some won't. This creates interesting arbitrage opportunities for smart traders. Additional reasoning why EHTC is very unlikely to be 'worthless' (https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4sxwo3/ethereum_classic_keep_original/d5dawgg).

Both Poloniex and Bitfinex announced that they will assign their users both ETH and ETHC after the fork. This is a step in the right direction, now it's up to these major exchanges to enable ETH/ETHC trading that will no doubt be demanded by users. Decentralized exchange Bitsquare announced ETHC trading (https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4t30qf/bitsquare_will_add_ethc_trading_immediately/) right after the fork. Other trading venues will follow since there is a strong business case. We are in touch with several other exchanges to add ETHC trading to their platforms. If your exchange is interested in ETHC trading, please contact us (bitnovosti@gmail.com).

Let's make sure original Ethereum vision doesn't just "go gentle into that good night (https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/do-not-go-gentle-good-night)"!


https://github.com/ethereumclassic/README


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 09:28:53 AM
Join the petition at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559622.0 to get our rightful thread


This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

You don't even need to trust us since we're using eth code. Ethf had to get new code not ethc.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 21, 2016, 09:40:08 AM
This is what ethereum should have been.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 09:41:27 AM
This is what ethereum should have been.

Vitalik sold immutable tokens and now the word has been wiped clean. This is false advertising, deceptive and bait and switch. Ethereum Classic believes in the original intent.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: redsn0w on July 21, 2016, 09:50:11 AM
Guess it's time to merge this pull request https://github.com/ethereum/ethereum-org/pull/264/files  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 09:51:43 AM
Go here http://ethc.epool.io/#/help (http://ethc.epool.io/#/help) for help mining

Use port 8008 at us.ethc.epool.io for Stratum miners from MRR or wherever you prefer to rent from.
wallet address for username
Nothing needed for password.

I mined some yesterday and it was quite profitable.

40 MH made me 0.11209467 over 3 hours.



Can we use our old wallets created at "myetherwallet.com"? I did, no withdrawal yet, though.


7-21-2016 9:53 AM EDT
Update #1
First withdrawal to my old Ether wallet from myetherwallet.com
0x6a4b8a06a053cb259471365e180551dc27fdb3bb5f1a428e07cf183bc8613b01

Did not receive it. So I created a new wallet using this zip that the OP suggested.
https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

Will post another update soon.

7-21-2016 2:34 PM EDT
Update #2
I was able to receive ETHC to my wallet using the above version.
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0x48e3200b65223d91e5f2455cbc680b14b6dd798cd653603ca3ec576e11040aca
When installing the wallet I was asked if I support the DAO hard fork and I chose "no". I created a second address for receiving the coins, to make sure address creation works too. It does, I received the coins to my 2nd address.
http://prntscr.com/bvsvtn

I hope this helps some people with mining ETHC.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 09:55:06 AM
Is it safe to mine to bittrex eth adress?
As there is no ETH Classic Wallet available anywhere or am I wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
Is it safe to mine to bittrex eth adress?
As there is no ETH Classic Wallet available anywhere or am I wrong?


From OP

"Both Poloniex a Bitfinex announced that they will assign their users both ETH and ETHC after the fork. This is a step in the right direction, now it's up to these major exchanges to enable ETH/ETHC trading that will no doubt be demanded by users. Decentralized exchange Bitsquare announced ETHC trading right after the fork. Other trading venues will follow since there is a strong business case. We are in touch with several other exchanges to add ETHC trading to their platforms. If your exchange is interested in ETHC trading, please contact us.
"

Maybe Polo has an ETHC address you can mine to?

edit: I logged Polo and I don't have an ETHC address yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
The lesson to be learned from this event is that we need to minimize the points of centralisation in every blockchain.
I am not against hard forks if the decision is achieved in a pure democratic way. Ask yourself whether the ethereum hardfork was done in this way or not and based on that answer choose your chain.

I feel like it wasn't, but I was an outsider looking in, waiting to see the results. My business partner has a few BTC tied in ETH so I've been monitoring the situation for him. I have mixed feelings about the hard fork itself, but from what I've been reading it was not achieved in much of a democratic way.

Here's a great article and interview in Bitcoin Magazine about Ether Classic.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808 (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808)


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: StarenseN on July 21, 2016, 10:12:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aOBu7nr.jpg

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 10:15:08 AM
The lesson to be learned from this event is that we need to minimize the points of centralisation in every blockchain.
I am not against hard forks if the decision is achieved in a pure democratic way. Ask yourself whether the ethereum hardfork was done in this way or not and choose your chain based on the answer.

Coinbase (regulated bank) enjoying the hard fork is a huge red flag while other exchanges were angry. Once gambling, etc get popular vitalik will be held in contempt until he forks again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tn0s3/bitfinex_cso_i_wish_i_never_listed_this_piece_of/


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 10:45:55 AM
Neither has Bittrex... so where should I mine to?
I'm on the http://ethc.epool.io pool, on the help site it only says:

YOUR_ETH_ADDRESS
    This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.
    Example: 0xb85150eb365e7df0941f0cf08235f987ba91506a.

Is it safe to mine to bittrex eth adress?
As there is no ETH Classic Wallet available anywhere or am I wrong?


From OP

"Both Poloniex a Bitfinex announced that they will assign their users both ETH and ETHC after the fork. This is a step in the right direction, now it's up to these major exchanges to enable ETH/ETHC trading that will no doubt be demanded by users. Decentralized exchange Bitsquare announced ETHC trading right after the fork. Other trading venues will follow since there is a strong business case. We are in touch with several other exchanges to add ETHC trading to their platforms. If your exchange is interested in ETHC trading, please contact us.
"

Maybe Polo has an ETHC address you can mine to?

edit: I logged Polo and I don't have an ETHC address yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: CosaNostra on July 21, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
Neither has Bittrex... so where should I mine to?
I'm on the http://ethc.epool.io pool, on the help site it only says:

YOUR_ETH_ADDRESS
    This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.
    Example: 0xb85150eb365e7df0941f0cf08235f987ba91506a.

Is it safe to mine to bittrex eth adress?
As there is no ETH Classic Wallet available anywhere or am I wrong?


From OP

"Both Poloniex a Bitfinex announced that they will assign their users both ETH and ETHC after the fork. This is a step in the right direction, now it's up to these major exchanges to enable ETH/ETHC trading that will no doubt be demanded by users. Decentralized exchange Bitsquare announced ETHC trading right after the fork. Other trading venues will follow since there is a strong business case. We are in touch with several other exchanges to add ETHC trading to their platforms. If your exchange is interested in ETHC trading, please contact us.
"

Maybe Polo has an ETHC address you can mine to?

edit: I logged Polo and I don't have an ETHC address yet.

+1
Give me some address, guys, I'll test my miners  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 11:06:06 AM
Neither has Bittrex... so where should I mine to?
I'm on the http://ethc.epool.io pool, on the help site it only says:

YOUR_ETH_ADDRESS
    This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.
    Example: 0xb85150eb365e7df0941f0cf08235f987ba91506a.

Is it safe to mine to bittrex eth adress?
As there is no ETH Classic Wallet available anywhere or am I wrong?


From OP

"Both Poloniex a Bitfinex announced that they will assign their users both ETH and ETHC after the fork. This is a step in the right direction, now it's up to these major exchanges to enable ETH/ETHC trading that will no doubt be demanded by users. Decentralized exchange Bitsquare announced ETHC trading right after the fork. Other trading venues will follow since there is a strong business case. We are in touch with several other exchanges to add ETHC trading to their platforms. If your exchange is interested in ETHC trading, please contact us.
"

Maybe Polo has an ETHC address you can mine to?

edit: I logged Polo and I don't have an ETHC address yet.

I mined to my ether wallet that I created from myetherwallet.com a long time ago. My balance is still held in "pending payout". Not sure why. Either I'm waiting for a random payout time or specific amount of time to pass, or they can't send to that wallet. Either way, I trust I will be able to withdraw my coins from the pool. At worst, I wasted 100k sats to support the pool which is also fine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:11:20 AM
I'd like to quote this here

I don't follow altcoins at all, but it seems to me that Ethereum's main problem here was that its economy wasn't backed by very many full nodes at all. See:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node#Economic_strength
https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/features/validation

I'd guess that 99% of ETH owners were using EWallets. This is extremely dangerous, since it gives those EWallets massive control over the network. This is exactly the sort of centralization risk that Bitcoin experts are constantly warning about in relation to the max block size. It is absolutely essential that the economy be backed by many independent full nodes so that miners + a small handful of "major players" can't completely change the currency.

I believe 99% of ethf users were in it for the pump and dump. None had an intent to run nodes, create an economy, build contracts, nothing.

Vitalik has set a precedent. If there's ever child porn, drugs, gambling, etc. The fbi can come straight to his house and he has 0 deniability. He'll be in jail for contempt.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:12:45 AM
Can someone send to 0xAD3567CCF6269703C36B73819199B2a9Af5130BD

I installed ethereum wallet and clicked no to fork. I've never used eth before.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
which wallet did you install? mist? jaxx?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kahir on July 21, 2016, 11:18:31 AM
i really like indeed

http://lifeboat.com/board/vitalik.buterin.jpg

http://media1.fdncms.com/portmerc/imager/u/original/10050675/1374622688-d200_dirtyfork_01_huge.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 11:19:01 AM
Can someone send to 0xAD3567CCF6269703C36B73819199B2a9Af5130BD

I installed ethereum wallet and clicked no to fork. I've never used eth before.

http://etherscan.io/tx/0x3e1ffa4361dc85f06a47c14f8c300e7d49619c049f52667b794fcd152b20abe2

Hehe, transaction cost more than I sent. I sent all I had left after dumping my Ether before the DAO hack happened.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: CosaNostra on July 21, 2016, 11:22:10 AM
Can someone send to 0xAD3567CCF6269703C36B73819199B2a9Af5130BD

I installed ethereum wallet and clicked no to fork. I've never used eth before.

Set your address for mining.
Clicked no to fork? Where? Have I missed it?  ???
I want classic!  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 21, 2016, 11:22:51 AM
is there a windows compiled wallet i can use?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 11:25:42 AM
is there a windows compiled wallet i can use?

I'm currently using a wallet from myetherwallet.com, but I'm not sure if a newly created wallet from there would work or not. I also don't know if I am going to receive the coins because they are still pending.

Aside from that I don't know of any way to get a Windows wallet for Ether. I've never seen a qt wallet, don't think it can be done. idk


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 21, 2016, 11:28:06 AM
is there a windows compiled wallet i can use?

I'm currently using a wallet from myetherwallet.com, but I'm not sure if a newly created wallet from there would work or not. I also don't know if I am going to receive the coins because they are still pending.

Aside from that I don't know of any way to get a Windows wallet for Ether. I've never seen a qt wallet, don't think it can be done. idk

maybe the win64 automated build here? https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 11:33:38 AM
is there a windows compiled wallet i can use?

I'm currently using a wallet from myetherwallet.com, but I'm not sure if a newly created wallet from there would work or not. I also don't know if I am going to receive the coins because they are still pending.

Aside from that I don't know of any way to get a Windows wallet for Ether. I've never seen a qt wallet, don't think it can be done. idk

maybe the win64 automated build here? https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum

Maybe that will be on the wrong fork. I'm not very sure about what I'm saying here, but I guess there are two different versions this could be compiled on and it's likely compiled on the newer one. Ends in .10. I think Eth HF went off of .10 and Eth classic off of .9

I downloaded the rar anyways. https://build.ethdev.com/builds/Windows%20Go%20develop%20branch/Geth-Win64-latest.zip (note this will download a file to your PC if you click it)

I get a "geth.exe" in the build. Reading the notes it does appear to be based off of Geth 1.4.10. From my understanding this does not work with ETHC.


https://build.ethdev.com/builds/Windows%20Go%20develop%20branch/

Looks like you can pull an older version too. Maybe try with an earlier version, or maybe the ETHC devs can pull the source and modify it for ETHC.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 21, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
is there a windows compiled wallet i can use?

I'm currently using a wallet from myetherwallet.com, but I'm not sure if a newly created wallet from there would work or not. I also don't know if I am going to receive the coins because they are still pending.

Aside from that I don't know of any way to get a Windows wallet for Ether. I've never seen a qt wallet, don't think it can be done. idk

maybe the win64 automated build here? https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum

Maybe that will be on the wrong fork. I'm not very sure about what I'm saying here, but I guess there are two different versions this could be compiled on and it's likely compiled on the newer one. Ends in .10. I think Eth HF went off of .10 and Eth classic off of .9

I downloaded the rar anyways. https://build.ethdev.com/builds/Windows%20Go%20develop%20branch/Geth-Win64-latest.zip (note this will download a file to your PC if you click it)

I get a "geth.exe" in the build. Reading the notes it does appear to be based off of Geth 1.4.10. From my understanding this does not work with ETHC.


its ok i will be waiting for a 100% answer on this. i dont want to end up on that new eth.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 11:38:43 AM
is there a windows compiled wallet i can use?

I'm currently using a wallet from myetherwallet.com, but I'm not sure if a newly created wallet from there would work or not. I also don't know if I am going to receive the coins because they are still pending.

Aside from that I don't know of any way to get a Windows wallet for Ether. I've never seen a qt wallet, don't think it can be done. idk

maybe the win64 automated build here? https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum

Maybe that will be on the wrong fork. I'm not very sure about what I'm saying here, but I guess there are two different versions this could be compiled on and it's likely compiled on the newer one. Ends in .10. I think Eth HF went off of .10 and Eth classic off of .9

I downloaded the rar anyways. https://build.ethdev.com/builds/Windows%20Go%20develop%20branch/Geth-Win64-latest.zip (note this will download a file to your PC if you click it)

I get a "geth.exe" in the build. Reading the notes it does appear to be based off of Geth 1.4.10. From my understanding this does not work with ETHC.


its ok i will be waiting for a 100% answer on this. i dont want to end up on that scammy new eth.

The OP was just asking for a transaction to test his new wallet, so I don't think he really knows. I think we all need to work together to make this work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:41:59 AM
which wallet did you install? mist? jaxx?

This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 21, 2016, 11:42:44 AM
which wallet did you install? mist? jaxx?

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?

so Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip will work on eth classic?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:43:03 AM
Can someone send to 0xAD3567CCF6269703C36B73819199B2a9Af5130BD

I installed ethereum wallet and clicked no to fork. I've never used eth before.

http://etherscan.io/tx/0x3e1ffa4361dc85f06a47c14f8c300e7d49619c049f52667b794fcd152b20abe2

Hehe, transaction cost more than I sent. I sent all I had left after dumping my Ether before the DAO hack happened.

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:48:03 AM
which wallet did you install? mist? jaxx?

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?

so Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip will work on eth classic?

Seems to work for me. It uses geth 1.4.10 and asks about the fork.



This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork. Also backup your old ones and you'll be safe.

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?


You don't even need to trust us since we're using eth code. Ethf had to get new code not ethc.



Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 12:12:37 PM
http://imgur.com/a/ShmlN

Yes for the ETH Classic ain't it?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Seccour on July 21, 2016, 12:15:48 PM
Ethereum Classic Speculation thread and OTC trading : here (https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4twnxk/ethereum_classic_speculation_thread_otc_trading/).


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
http://imgur.com/a/ShmlN

Yes for the ETH Classic ain't it?

No it's no


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 12:22:10 PM
Forking crime out may have its merits. The only dapp I saw on dao is roulette. Say gambling becomes huge in ethf.

1. Fbi visits vitalik telling him to stop gambling so he forks to ethfbi.

2. Investors want their money back so they want another fork ethf2.

How many forks will it take? All the proforkers will choose which fork? Everyone will be forking everyone else.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kokokoin on July 21, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
If i have some ETH in my wallet does it mean i have same amount of ETHC?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Seccour on July 21, 2016, 12:25:23 PM
If i have some ETH in my wallet does it mean i have same amount of ETHC?

If you have them before the fork, yes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 12:32:13 PM
If i have some ETH in my wallet does it mean i have same amount of ETHC?

Yes It makes no sense to fight ethc. You already have ethc and we're trying to give you value. Anyone with 10k I'll give you $50.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
Bitpop rescuing ETH. I never thought I'd see that.

Luckily I don't have any left but I'll be following this as it's an interesting precedent.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TrueAnon on July 21, 2016, 01:40:22 PM
Here we go lol.  How did I know this would come.
"revolution time"  ::) :-X


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: billotronic on July 21, 2016, 01:42:28 PM
This is great.

bitpop, did you just wake up this morning and decide to stir up shit?

either way, I wish you luck with keeping it real sir.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 01:54:32 PM
This is great.

bitpop, did you just wake up this morning and decide to stir up shit?

either way, I wish you luck with keeping it real sir.

Today we coining the world!


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LucD88 on July 21, 2016, 02:08:25 PM
Bitpop rescuing ETH. I never thought I'd see that.

Luckily I don't have any left but I'll be following this as it's an interesting precedent.
I have to agree with you, let's see how this'll unfold. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 03:22:33 PM
This is great.

bitpop, did you just wake up this morning and decide to stir up shit?

either way, I wish you luck with keeping it real sir.

Today we coining the world!

Who's in charge of the pool? Is it possible to change the wallet payouts are going to? The wallet I mined 3+ ETHC with is not accepting the transactions, trying with the wallet you linked now but it'll be a while until I even know if that will work.

Like this one
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

Also I have sent you a transaction from that wallet so you know it's really mine too.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
How many confirmations are needed until it should show up in the wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 03:49:28 PM
This is great.

bitpop, did you just wake up this morning and decide to stir up shit?

either way, I wish you luck with keeping it real sir.

Today we coining the world!

Who's in charge of the pool? Is it possible to change the wallet payouts are going to? The wallet I mined 3+ ETHC with is not accepting the transactions, trying with the wallet you linked now but it'll be a while until I even know if that will work.

Like this one
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

Also I have sent you a transaction from that wallet so you know it's really mine too.

The pool says they only do payments twice a day


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
Yeah, but it is payed.

" Total Paid: 1.90930108 "

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xb142f995cf3b35d9c10138f472eedc81c76ba81a63694e50f9036b77d6b59fe9



Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 03:56:04 PM
This is great.

bitpop, did you just wake up this morning and decide to stir up shit?

either way, I wish you luck with keeping it real sir.

Today we coining the world!

Who's in charge of the pool? Is it possible to change the wallet payouts are going to? The wallet I mined 3+ ETHC with is not accepting the transactions, trying with the wallet you linked now but it'll be a while until I even know if that will work.

Like this one
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

Also I have sent you a transaction from that wallet so you know it's really mine too.

The pool says they only do payments twice a day

Which is fine, as long as those payments actually make it. What I'm saying is the payments are not making their destination.

http://prntscr.com/bvqsb9


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 03:58:32 PM
Perryl seems to be right...
http://ethc.epool.io/#/account/0x0661ffd11162080e0b833add4d0d70fada98c9c7/payouts


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 21, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Bitpop rescuing ETH. I never thought I'd see that.

Luckily I don't have any left but I'll be following this as it's an interesting precedent.

its also great to see some legendary members coming here supporting this. great work guys. keep it up


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sxafir on July 21, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
What is the algoritm,i can exchange yocoin to ethc,pulse code to ethc,btc to ethc?


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: superresistant on July 21, 2016, 05:10:30 PM
 
Thanks a lot for this thread !

Go ETHC !


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 21, 2016, 05:21:23 PM
Thanks a lot for this thread,
I wish to support this idea but am struggling to install a pre 1.14.10 build of  the wallet , I don't know how to compile stuff , and every version of the wallet I have tried so far sticks me on 1.14.10 with the option to go on the old chain greyed out .

I have a little hash i wish to throw at it to help support ETHC so .....

If any kindly soul could give me any advice on how to get a windows friendly version of 1.14.9 up and running it would be greatly appreciated.

If i can manage to get this sorted you have my hash for a while .

thanks in advance



Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Thanks a lot for this thread,
I wish to support this idea but am struggling to install a pre 1.14.10 build of  the wallet , I don't know how to compile stuff , and every version of the wallet I have tried so far sticks me on 1.14.10 with the option to go on the old chain greyed out .

I have a little hash i wish to throw at it to help support ETHC so .....

If any kindly soul could give me any advice on how to get a windows friendly version of 1.14.9 up and running it would be greatly appreciated.

If i can manage to get this sorted you have my hash for a while .

thanks in advance



Did you already have mist on your PC? You may need to go into your appdata or whatever and changed some folder names.

The windows wallet linked on this thread worked for me. I was able to select to oppose the fork, install the wallet, and create a new address. I do not yet know if I will successfully receive a deposit, but I will update my original post on page 1 with more information as I get it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: minerjoen on July 21, 2016, 05:44:09 PM
Do i understand this well, and nobody knows for 100% how this work? Not even the topicstarter?

Why would u hold a old version from ethereum? This version was sick, ill, not worth it anymore. That's why the hard fork...

Good luck to this anyway, but remember, 99% from the people move to the new release/fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
Mining to bittrex doesn't seem to work (as stated on the pool homepage: This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.)
After 304 confirmations still no deposit.
Will try it with the clean mist version.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 21, 2016, 06:01:28 PM
mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 06:40:32 PM
mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(

Mining to bittrex doesn't seem to work (as stated on the pool homepage: This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.)
After 304 confirmations still no deposit.
Will try it with the clean mist version.

I installed this version here https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

I've never had an ETH wallet on my PC. Only a web wallet. So it was a completely fresh installation. I was able to receive my mining rewards to that wallet successfully. I have a post on page 1 with screenshots and the transaction id.

It's also worth noting, I mined for 3 hours with 120 mh and I actually didn't even get the full hashrate I rented. I received just under 6 ETHC. This is extremely profitable if ETHC survives.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2016, 06:52:59 PM
mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(

Mining to bittrex doesn't seem to work (as stated on the pool homepage: This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.)
After 304 confirmations still no deposit.
Will try it with the clean mist version.

I installed this version here https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

I've never had an ETH wallet on my PC. Only a web wallet. So it was a completely fresh installation. I was able to receive my mining rewards to that wallet successfully. I have a post on page 1 with screenshots and the transaction id.

It's also worth noting, I mined for 3 hours with 120 mh and I actually didn't even get the full hashrate I rented. I received just under 6 ETHC. This is extremely profitable if ETHC survives.

At bitpop's "floor" pricing of $50 per 10k it would take you ~200 days to make that $50. It's not a question of survival (it's done that already).


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 21, 2016, 06:55:25 PM
mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(

Mining to bittrex doesn't seem to work (as stated on the pool homepage: This is your address for payouts, generate one with geth, or mine directly to exchange like Poloniex or Bittrex.)
After 304 confirmations still no deposit.
Will try it with the clean mist version.

I installed this version here https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

I've never had an ETH wallet on my PC. Only a web wallet. So it was a completely fresh installation. I was able to receive my mining rewards to that wallet successfully. I have a post on page 1 with screenshots and the transaction id.

It's also worth noting, I mined for 3 hours with 120 mh and I actually didn't even get the full hashrate I rented. I received just under 6 ETHC. This is extremely profitable if ETHC survives.


I would to thank your for attempting to help , i did the same as you just suggested got the file you mentioned above and it has sync'd , and appears to be the right block height , hope it survives , we can only support and see , good luck to you all!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 07:01:53 PM
Announcing a $20 price floor*!

*per 3k 0xAD3567CCF6269703C36B73819199B2a9Af5130BD


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 21, 2016, 07:08:38 PM
This is great.

bitpop, did you just wake up this morning and decide to stir up shit?

either way, I wish you luck with keeping it real sir.

Today we coining the world!

Who's in charge of the pool? Is it possible to change the wallet payouts are going to? The wallet I mined 3+ ETHC with is not accepting the transactions, trying with the wallet you linked now but it'll be a while until I even know if that will work.

Like this one
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

Also I have sent you a transaction from that wallet so you know it's really mine too.

The pool says they only do payments twice a day

I show full payouts here http://www.epool.io/#/account/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83/payouts


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 21, 2016, 07:13:51 PM
Hey guys payments were on hold for 24 hours while the fork was underway. It is hard to send payments in the beginning to 50 miners when block times where 30-60 minutes. Just not possible. Block times are better now and payments processing. However, the pool only pays twice a day. I'm just sending payments often now to get things cleared out.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 21, 2016, 07:17:52 PM
mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(

Same problem here


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2016, 07:22:43 PM
mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(

Same problem here

Check the block height. At this time it should be ~1921200 for classic and ~1927500 for forkers.

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/ (classic)
https://etherchain.org/blocks (fork)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Ethc is slow and steady to win the marathon. Ethf is pump and dump. Stay on our winning side!

http://lifeboat.com/board/vitalik.buterin.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 21, 2016, 07:46:04 PM
Correct. Also Pool reports the block it is currently mining. So it will be one block higher that the reported block.

mining to an exchange will not work , as they are all likely on the new fork of the chain , my understanding is we need to be on the old chain .

Thanks above for the attempt to help, i have mange to install myth now, when the wallet loads up do not support Dao fork is ticked now but greyed out , but under nodes, it still says Geth 1.14.10 , and another option 1.2.9(c++) no hard fork supported is greyed out and not ticked, No idea if i am doing this right as the node under development tools says node is GETH 1.14.10 and is ticked , which i guess put me on the wrong chain :(

Same problem here

Check the block height. At this time it should be ~1921200 for classic and ~1927500 for forkers.

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/ (classic)
https://etherchain.org/blocks (fork)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 07:49:44 PM
My core forum team includes suchmoon and perryl, thank you for your support


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 07:56:38 PM
Hey guys payments were on hold for 24 hours while the fork was underway. It is hard to send payments in the beginning to 50 miners when block times where 30-60 minutes. Just not possible. Block times are better now and payments processing. However, the pool only pays twice a day. I'm just sending payments often now to get things cleared out.

I think my problem is that I used an invalid wallet address.

http://ethc.epool.io/#/account/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83

I haven't received any of this ETHC to my old ETH address. It was just a test, it's fine if I never get the coins, but using a wallet created on myetherwallet around a year ago I did not receive my mining rewards.

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0x6a4b8a06a053cb259471365e180551dc27fdb3bb5f1a428e07cf183bc8613b01
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

I don't have the link to the 3rd payment to that address.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83

I sent some coin to an ETHC address earlier, but I don't know if it ever made it.

The point of this is just to make sure people don't make the same mistake. I'm not concerned about 3 coins. lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 07:59:03 PM
My core forum team includes suchmoon and perryl, thank you for your support

Thanks, that's unexpected. I'll do what I can to support the project.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 21, 2016, 08:10:48 PM
No, No. I'm very interested in your issue. Can you please verify your block height of your wallet matches that of the explorer and epool?

What client are you using?

Hey guys payments were on hold for 24 hours while the fork was underway. It is hard to send payments in the beginning to 50 miners when block times where 30-60 minutes. Just not possible. Block times are better now and payments processing. However, the pool only pays twice a day. I'm just sending payments often now to get things cleared out.

I think my problem is that I used an invalid wallet address.

http://ethc.epool.io/#/account/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83

I haven't received any of this ETHC to my old ETH address. It was just a test, it's fine if I never get the coins, but using a wallet created on myetherwallet around a year ago I did not receive my mining rewards.

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0x6a4b8a06a053cb259471365e180551dc27fdb3bb5f1a428e07cf183bc8613b01
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

I don't have the link to the 3rd payment to that address.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83

I sent some coin to an ETHC address earlier, but I don't know if it ever made it.

The point of this is just to make sure people don't make the same mistake. I'm not concerned about 3 coins. lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: marky89 on July 21, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Do i understand this well, and nobody knows for 100% how this work? Not even the topicstarter?

Why would u hold a old version from ethereum? This version was sick, ill, not worth it anymore. That's why the hard fork...

Good luck to this anyway, but remember, 99% from the people move to the new release/fork.

If so, ETH Foundation/devs accomplished it in a very deceitful way. Leveraging the hashpower of the silent majority of non-voting miners to enforce the fork was incredibly dishonest. Inaction cannot possibly be construed as voting to change the protocol rules and migrating to a new system. Calling this "consensus" is incredibly insulting to everyone involved.

And the pro-fork vote was set to default in geth and other clients. Again, leveraging non-voters to enforce the fork. Disgusting.

I've also seen reports that in the case of one pool, miners voted against the fork, and the pool admins ignored their vote and built on the forked chain. Trying to find more info on that.

To top it off, consensus among exchanges -- not Ethereum users -- is/was being used to squeeze defectors on the minority chain by removing market liquidity from ETHC. There is something very disturbing about centralized exchanges having such influence over the definition of the best blockchain. This is an FUD tactic that forces investors -- quite possibly against their will -- to support the fork strictly out of fear for capital preservation. There are clear incentives to remain on an exchange-supported fork. Those incentives have absolutely nothing to do with what users want (i.e. user consensus).


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 08:45:30 PM
No, No. I'm very interested in your issue. Can you please verify your block height of your wallet matches that of the explorer and epool?

What client are you using?

Hey guys payments were on hold for 24 hours while the fork was underway. It is hard to send payments in the beginning to 50 miners when block times where 30-60 minutes. Just not possible. Block times are better now and payments processing. However, the pool only pays twice a day. I'm just sending payments often now to get things cleared out.

I think my problem is that I used an invalid wallet address.

http://ethc.epool.io/#/account/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83

I haven't received any of this ETHC to my old ETH address. It was just a test, it's fine if I never get the coins, but using a wallet created on myetherwallet around a year ago I did not receive my mining rewards.

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0x6a4b8a06a053cb259471365e180551dc27fdb3bb5f1a428e07cf183bc8613b01
http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/transaction/0xd47ade368c9be9ffe37dedba3f3e6e92845e28f697943fbf85023f712842e225

I don't have the link to the 3rd payment to that address.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x2cae8ece1a5eb9b668e3f25e42d58d5367c50c83

I sent some coin to an ETHC address earlier, but I don't know if it ever made it.

The point of this is just to make sure people don't make the same mistake. I'm not concerned about 3 coins. lol

I'm using a wallet I generated at myetherwallet.com a while back, maybe a year ago. I don't remember. I never intentionally upgraded it, but the transaction I sent to bitpop was in block    1925409 which I guess means that wallet is on the new chain by default, somehow.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Skyrik on July 21, 2016, 08:48:01 PM
next will be ethereumfuture , retroethereum, cyberpunkethereum............................


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 08:50:46 PM
Do i understand this well, and nobody knows for 100% how this work? Not even the topicstarter?

Why would u hold a old version from ethereum? This version was sick, ill, not worth it anymore. That's why the hard fork...

Good luck to this anyway, but remember, 99% from the people move to the new release/fork.

If so, ETH Foundation/devs accomplished it in a very deceitful way. Leveraging the hashpower of the silent majority of non-voting miners to enforce the fork was incredibly dishonest. Inaction cannot possibly be construed as voting to change the protocol rules and migrating to a new system. Calling this "consensus" is incredibly insulting to everyone involved.

And the pro-fork vote was set to default in geth and other clients. Again, leveraging non-voters to enforce the fork. Disgusting.

I've also seen reports that in the case of one pool, miners voted against the fork, and the pool admins ignored their vote and built on the forked chain. Trying to find more info on that.

To top it off, consensus among exchanges -- not Ethereum users -- is/was being used to squeeze defectors on the minority chain by removing market liquidity from ETHC. There is something very disturbing about centralized exchanges having such influence over the definition of the best blockchain. This is an FUD tactic that forces investors -- quite possibly against their will -- to support the fork strictly out of fear for capital preservation. There are clear incentives to remain on an exchange-supported fork. Those incentives have absolutely nothing to do with what users want (i.e. user consensus).

It was ethermine.org

"According to the voting result (65% in favor of not supporting the fork) the pool is supposed not to support the fork. But as all other major pools (e.g. dwarfpool, ethermine, nanopool) are supporting the fork we can and will not jeopardize any mining income of the pool by mining on a chain that has a very high probability to get orphaned. Therefore, according to our voting policy stated in the announcement, we will support the hard fork."

https://news.bitcoin.com/ethereum-hard-fork-miner-vote-overturned/

Also, this is a pretty interesting quote from Coindesk.

"Though support by the miners does seem to swing toward the hard fork, low turnout has opened the door to criticism that the vote wasn’t representative of the entire network. At least one large mining pool said it would only begrudgingly honor the fork.

Pools like Dwarfpool, which possesses about a quarter of the network’s total hashing power, held a vote in which a majority of participants indicated their support. However, less than 7% of Dwarfpool’s hashrate was accounted for in the vote.

Fourteen percent of Ethermine’s hashrate voted in a similar poll, with a clear majority of those taking part voicing support. 23% of Ethpool’s mining power voted, with a slim majority moving against the hard fork."

http://www.coindesk.com/hard-fork-ethereum-dao/

F2pool said:

"We are as a matter of principle against unduly rushed or controversial hard forks irrespective of the team proposing and we will not run such code on production systems nor mine any block from that hard-fork. I believe this is universal and it could be applied to ethereum, too. I fail to see why we must take such a controversial and risky hard fork. We are not willing to deploy this hard fork unless we have to."


Where is the consensus?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
I'm using a wallet I generated at myetherwallet.com a while back, maybe a year ago. I don't remember. I never intentionally upgraded it, but the transaction I sent to bitpop was in block    1925409 which I guess means that wallet is on the new chain by default, somehow.

A wallet by itself doesn't belong to a specific chain. If you own the private key you can send a TX to either one (or both) of the chains. Did you use myetherwallet website to create the transaction?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: StarenseN on July 21, 2016, 08:57:52 PM
Several Questions:

What about the difficulty bomb, legacy from eth-fork ? Could it be bad for miners in medium-term?

What are the plans with the DAO now?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 08:59:50 PM
I'm using a wallet I generated at myetherwallet.com a while back, maybe a year ago. I don't remember. I never intentionally upgraded it, but the transaction I sent to bitpop was in block    1925409 which I guess means that wallet is on the new chain by default, somehow.

A wallet by itself doesn't belong to a specific chain. If you own the private key you can send a TX to either one (or both) of the chains. Did you use myetherwallet website to create the transaction?


The transaction I sent, yes. The ones I did not receive, no. For the ones I did not receive, I have no idea why they didn't get to me. Maybe I can import the wallet address into my other wallet that is working and it will have the coins? Let me try that.

It's viewing it on the myetherwallet.com website that I cannot see the balance change. Maybe that's why.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2016, 09:07:29 PM
I'm using a wallet I generated at myetherwallet.com a while back, maybe a year ago. I don't remember. I never intentionally upgraded it, but the transaction I sent to bitpop was in block    1925409 which I guess means that wallet is on the new chain by default, somehow.

A wallet by itself doesn't belong to a specific chain. If you own the private key you can send a TX to either one (or both) of the chains. Did you use myetherwallet website to create the transaction?


The transaction I sent, yes. The ones I did not receive, no. For the ones I did not receive, I have no idea why they didn't get to me. Maybe I can import the wallet address into my other wallet that is working and it will have the coins? Let me try that.

It's viewing it on the myetherwallet.com website that I cannot see the balance change. Maybe that's why.

Yes, use your own wallet (or two wallets - both chains), import the key, pay attention to the block height, and you should be able to figure out where your coins went.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 21, 2016, 09:13:09 PM
I'm using a wallet I generated at myetherwallet.com a while back, maybe a year ago. I don't remember. I never intentionally upgraded it, but the transaction I sent to bitpop was in block    1925409 which I guess means that wallet is on the new chain by default, somehow.

A wallet by itself doesn't belong to a specific chain. If you own the private key you can send a TX to either one (or both) of the chains. Did you use myetherwallet website to create the transaction?


The transaction I sent, yes. The ones I did not receive, no. For the ones I did not receive, I have no idea why they didn't get to me. Maybe I can import the wallet address into my other wallet that is working and it will have the coins? Let me try that.

It's viewing it on the myetherwallet.com website that I cannot see the balance change. Maybe that's why.

Yes, use your own wallet (or two wallets - both chains), import the key, pay attention to the block height, and you should be able to figure out where your coins went.

I have no ETH anyways, I sold out before the DAO fiasco even happened, but I'm importing the wallet, it's been about 13 minutes and it just says importing. I guess that means it's doing something. lol. We'll see.

No luck, guess I don't remember the key I set to it. Oh well, it's only 3 ETHC. lol. I'll get at it one day I'm sure. I do have the private key, but I guess there is a different password setting as well. idk, I don't really care. It's a waste of my time to do all this for 3 coins. Unless maybe it was 3 BTC. lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 10:18:25 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: NSA360 on July 21, 2016, 11:20:55 PM

ETHc listed on Bitsquare (https://bitsquare.io/)




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: WestHarrison on July 21, 2016, 11:23:04 PM
With the drop in difficulty, could I mine this on my computer?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Seccour on July 21, 2016, 11:26:07 PM
With the drop in difficulty, could I mine this on my computer?

Yes you can.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: manchester93 on July 22, 2016, 12:43:07 AM
I would like to support Ethereum Classic but I've never downloaded or used Ethereum before. Bit of a noob. :-\

Can someone point me to a tutorial on where/how to download and build an Ethereum Classic node? And then how to get started with mining? I'm on Windows 32 at work and Linux/Ubuntu at home.

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: manchester93 on July 22, 2016, 01:15:11 AM
Okay, scratch that. I've managed to get Geth running and am syncing the blockchain. Does Ethminer work for Classic same as before?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: protonn on July 22, 2016, 01:18:45 AM
Okay, scratch that. I've managed to get Geth running and am syncing the blockchain. Does Ethminer work for Classic same as before?

Make use you use the flag --oppose-dao-fork or use the software here https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum which does not contain fork code. I don't know about Ethminer. I use claymore with -allcoins -1


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: manchester93 on July 22, 2016, 01:37:40 AM
Okay, scratch that. I've managed to get Geth running and am syncing the blockchain. Does Ethminer work for Classic same as before?

Make use you use the flag --oppose-dao-fork or use the software here https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum which does not contain fork code. I don't know about Ethminer. I use claymore with -allcoins -1

Thanks. Yeah I got the build from ethereumproject/go-ethereum which contains oppose-dao-fork. I also came across Claymore, working on getting it installed and running now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hdbuck on July 22, 2016, 06:38:48 AM

Also I've never held any eth, ethc, ethf nor dao.


So why the hassle?

Just let Ethereum and its braindead users consumers community cryptonoobs die.

May it be slow, painful, with a lot more hax & forx.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 22, 2016, 06:48:45 AM
I just checked the Blockchain Height to be sure to mine on the right blockchain.
ethc.epool.io states :  Blockchain Height: 1,923,476
Ethereum Wallet states: 1,925,853

While the ETH-HF says 1,930,229

How comes the difference between ethc.epool and my wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Amph on July 22, 2016, 07:00:17 AM
any exchange will listen this or it is a lost case?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: illyiller on July 22, 2016, 07:39:54 AM
any exchange will listen this or it is a lost case?

Only time will tell. I've read that Bitfinex and Kraken will both be issuing ETH token holders with ETHF and ETHC. That's a start. Kraken didn't give a hard yes or no to the notion of allowing trading of the minority chain's tokens. It sounded like they were leaving open the possibility.

For now, just Bitsquare. We just need Classic to survive in the short term -- that's the biggest hurdle. If it's not officially dead in some days or weeks, I believe there will be a resurgence of interest, and the possibility of being listed on exchanges is not unreasonable.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 22, 2016, 09:05:50 AM
hmm. if i had the time shapeshift shouldnt  too hard to do. i was working on a BTC to WDC bridge way before shapeshift. just never went full board. just surve up a wallet address and get price discovery from and api. coins in... calculate..  coins outs.  its so easy you could write it in shell script.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LucD88 on July 22, 2016, 10:19:45 AM
any exchange will listen this or it is a lost case?
Wondering exactly the same, guess it's a matter of time.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: roselee on July 22, 2016, 11:38:44 AM
Bitsquare
its a start


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 22, 2016, 11:43:25 AM
how much is 1 ETHC Coin worth in BTC or USD?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 22, 2016, 12:23:05 PM
Hey dude, did u need a portuguese translation?
Call me with u want this


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 22, 2016, 12:43:27 PM
hmm. if i had the time shapeshift shouldnt  too hard to do. i was working on a BTC to WDC bridge way before shapeshift. just never went full board. just surve up a wallet address and get price discovery from and api. coins in... calculate..  coins outs.  its so easy you could write it in shell script.

Wouldn't that require another exchange as a source for pricing and to actually execute trades?

I just checked the Blockchain Height to be sure to mine on the right blockchain.
ethc.epool.io states :  Blockchain Height: 1,923,476
Ethereum Wallet states: 1,925,853

While the ETH-HF says 1,930,229

How comes the difference between ethc.epool and my wallet?

Not sure where you're getting those high numbers. Wallet with "no fork" option is currently at ~1925000 and that matches epool and the explorer.

Network hashrate is 35 GH/s down from 50 GH/s yesterday.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HCLivess on July 22, 2016, 12:44:12 PM
seems like eth classic is dead for the sole reason of two chains existing (sell twice)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: protonn on July 22, 2016, 01:45:42 PM
seems like eth classic is dead for the sole reason of two chains existing (sell twice)

Classic has around 35GH...far from dead.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 22, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
It just needs a listing on a "real" exchange


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 22, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
It just needs a listing on a "real" exchange

Yes if someone can contact bittrex


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: NSA360 on July 22, 2016, 02:29:38 PM

ETHc listed on Bitsquare (https://bitsquare.io/)




I'm surprised that Yobit still didnt listed ETHc   :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 22, 2016, 02:43:31 PM
Just in time. Maybe yobit will add ethc today or late tomorrow.

Wait and see


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: omarabid on July 22, 2016, 02:50:23 PM
Can I rent hashing power and mine ETHC blocks? If anyone has info please reply. Looking to invest in this with some good $$$


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LucD88 on July 22, 2016, 04:33:18 PM
...

I'm surprised that Yobit still didnt listed ETHc   :D
Yup, but I personally dislike YoBit with their shady tactics. Mehh..


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 22, 2016, 04:35:26 PM
Can I rent hashing power and mine ETHC blocks? If anyone has info please reply. Looking to invest in this with some good $$$

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 22, 2016, 05:02:38 PM
sorry guys. i dropped a few miners, but it was imperative to get the critical apps off the stratums. i needed to reduce the attack surface. us1.epool.io, us2.epool.io, uk1.epool.io, as1.epool.io. old addresses should still work, but if not use the former. little bumb now to avoid a huge mountain later


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: lucky80 on July 22, 2016, 06:02:32 PM
sorry guys. i dropped a few miners, but it was imperative to get the critical apps off the stratums. i needed to reduce the attack surface. us1.epool.io, us2.epool.io, uk1.epool.io, as1.epool.io. old addresses should still work, but if not use the former. little bumb now to avoid a huge mountain later

payment stuck...or block stuck nevermind ...it running well


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: fat buddah on July 22, 2016, 06:08:01 PM
Where to download the wallet? Is there a wallet somewhere that's easy to set up? I don't want anything messy with lots of hacking and clicking through options. Anything ready out of the box?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 22, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Where to download the wallet? Is there a wallet somewhere that's easy to set up? I don't want anything messy with lots of hacking and clicking through options. Anything ready out of the box?

This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?

You don't even need to trust us since we're using eth code. Ethf had to get new code not ethc.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: fat buddah on July 22, 2016, 06:12:54 PM
Where to download the wallet? Is there a wallet somewhere that's easy to set up? I don't want anything messy with lots of hacking and clicking through options. Anything ready out of the box?

This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?

You don't even need to trust us since we're using eth code. Ethf had to get new code not ethc.



ok, thx
I'll see if i can get that working.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LucD88 on July 22, 2016, 07:00:41 PM

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.
Yeah, www.nicehash.com has nice rigs as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 22, 2016, 07:04:40 PM

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.
Yeah, www.nicehash.com has nice rigs as well.

How many ethc can I get with 1 btc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 22, 2016, 08:20:54 PM

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.
Yeah, www.nicehash.com has nice rigs as well.

How many ethc can I get with 1 btc

Let's try mathing a bit...

1 BTC buys about 7 GH/s for a day. Total network hashrate is 31 GH/s so you would have about 23% of the network. I think the total number of coins mined per day is 25k-ish, so you should be able to mine 25,000*0.23 = about 5,000 to 6,000 ETHC for 1 BTC.

I may have messed it up completely though so don't go spending your retirement savings without verifying the numbers yourself.

Edit: actually it's ~18% if we assume that you would add 7 GH/s to the network and make it 38 GH/s total. So roughly 4,000 - 5,000 ETHC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 22, 2016, 08:22:04 PM

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.
Yeah, www.nicehash.com has nice rigs as well.

How many ethc can I get with 1 btc

Let's try mathing a bit...

1 BTC buys about 7 GH/s for a day. Total network hashrate is 31 GH/s so you would have about 23% of the network. I think the total number of coins mined per day is 25k-ish, so you should be able to mine 25,000*0.23 = about 5,000 to 6,000 ETHC for 1 BTC.

I may have messed it up completely though so don't go spending your retirement savings without verifying the numbers yourself.

Thanks that's above my $20 floor

Then again the market seems to be selling at 2000/1btc

Ethc at 33¢ is better than paycoin and just getting started!



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitwonder on July 22, 2016, 10:19:03 PM
hi all, anyone has example connected using nicehash.
been trying without luck

http://ethc.epool.io/#/
stratum+tcp://us1.ethc.epool.io:8008
wallet
port:8008

stratum+tcp://us.ethc.epool.io:8888
198.199.91.114:8888   Remote pool terminated connection. Trying to reestablish soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 23, 2016, 12:28:55 AM
Update OP and Title with new ticker ETC


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitwonder on July 23, 2016, 12:54:11 AM
where could i buy some ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 23, 2016, 12:57:10 AM
where could i buy some ?

no worries... im sure the hacker has a few million to dump ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 01:32:46 AM
where could i buy some ?

Now bitsquare

Possibly soon https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4u45n6/coinexchangeio_is_working_on_adding_ethc_to_their/

Update OP and Title with new ticker ETC

Someone from Reddit needs to tell me but I like ethc or eth


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 23, 2016, 01:33:53 AM
where could i buy some ?

Soon on http://www.Coinexchange.io (http://www.Coinexchange.io)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 01:34:00 AM
where could i buy some ?

no worries... im sure the hacker has a few million to dump ;D ;D

Preferable solution is for white hats to keep them locked up or hacker to donate them, but refunds are not supported on this chain


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: samspaces on July 23, 2016, 01:34:27 AM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 01:35:41 AM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

We'll start at 0 but price now looks to be 33¢, this isn't a pump and dump, we're here long term


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 01:38:17 AM
where could i buy some ?

Soon on http://www.Coinexchange.io (http://www.Coinexchange.io)

I can't vouch for any of these exchanges or pools so be careful, but I'm ready to buy


Much more info at https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: arielbit on July 23, 2016, 09:20:51 AM
where could i buy some ?

no worries... im sure the hacker has a few million to dump ;D ;D

did the hacker offered certain amount of coins to the miners to not fork his stash?...

he/they should find a way to distribute a certain amount to these miners since they are keeping this fork alive and his stash alive (have value)..

just my opinion..


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: paulc010 on July 23, 2016, 10:32:17 AM
pool.ethereumclassic.com doesn't appear to have paid out anything despite finding >680 blocks?

I love the sentiment though. Immutable smart contracts indeed.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 23, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
They are working on it. I am told the funds are secure. My understanding just some technical issues on their end.

There is also http://www.epool.io


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: paulc010 on July 23, 2016, 11:32:05 AM
They are working on it. I am told the funds are secure. My understanding just some technical issues on their end.

There is also http://www.epool.io

It's cool. Not like I'm in a hurry to cash in :D

I'm hashing at epool.io at the moment. For a while at least.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 23, 2016, 11:36:35 AM
They are working on it. I am told the funds are secure. My understanding just some technical issues on their end.

There is also http://www.epool.io

It's cool. Not like I'm in a hurry to cash in :D

I'm hashing at epool.io at the moment. For a while at least.

I've been using epool.io and have received my payouts.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 23, 2016, 12:22:45 PM
I am also on epool.io Payments have been fast and precise with no incidents

working well


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: lucky80 on July 23, 2016, 12:38:23 PM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

We'll start at 0 but price now looks to be 33¢, this isn't a pump and dump, we're here long term

lets start at 0.01 lol this is ethereum classic not ethereum satoshi lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: samspaces on July 23, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
Does Eth classic have an ubuntu graphic wallet? Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: JudgeDredd_ on July 23, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
I can translate the ANN in french. Please pm me.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 05:22:52 PM
Now called ETC

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4u73eg/ticker_migration_from_ethc_to_etc/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jacaf01 on July 23, 2016, 05:26:54 PM
Who is going to be developing this project? this is my concern and since there is no head at the moment, won't there be power tussle later among the early adopter of this project.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 05:29:36 PM
Who is going to be developing this project? this is my concern and since there is no head at the moment, won't there be power tussle later among the early adopter of this project.

https://www.reddit.com/user/bit_novosti


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: PaidFudder on July 23, 2016, 05:31:39 PM
where can i buy motherfuckers


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 23, 2016, 05:49:05 PM
Who is going to be developing this project? this is my concern and since there is no head at the moment, won't there be power tussle later among the early adopter of this project.

There is nothing to tussle about, this is hardcore Immutable Amish Ethereum.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 05:53:39 PM
Who is going to be developing this project? this is my concern and since there is no head at the moment, won't there be power tussle later among the early adopter of this project.

There is nothing to tussle about, this is hardcore Immutable Amish Ethereum.

Here we have no master, just an immutable chain


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 23, 2016, 06:00:21 PM
hi all, anyone has example connected using nicehash.
been trying without luck

http://ethc.epool.io/#/
stratum+tcp://us1.ethc.epool.io:8008
wallet
port:8008

stratum+tcp://us.ethc.epool.io:8888
198.199.91.114:8888   Remote pool terminated connection. Trying to reestablish soon.

stratum+tcp://us2.epool.io:8008
stratum+tcp://us1.epool.io:8008
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008
stratum+tcp://as1.epool.io:8008




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: remistevens on July 23, 2016, 06:23:18 PM
I will gladly buy some ETHC. So many dissenters to the HF, this has more than enough potential backers to succeed. Also I don't agree with what they did and hope the existence of ETHC will send a message to the communities of older coins especially Bitcoin. Don't mess with immutability or you may split the coin in 2!

Its terrible every time investors lose their money from an unseen fault in a coin's code...but that happens to us all from time to time, its the risk we all accept investing in alt coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 23, 2016, 06:25:12 PM
I will gladly buy some ETHC. So many dissenters to the HF, this has more than enough potential backers to succeed. Also I don't agree with what they did and hope the existence of ETHC will send a message to the communities of older coins especially Bitcoin. Don't mess with immutability or you may split the coin in 2!

Its terrible every time investors lose their money from an unseen fault in a coin's code...but that happens to us all from time to time, its the risk we all accept investing in alt coins.

Well said Sir, well said. For the record, it wasn't Eth's code, but TheDao's shitty code.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: remistevens on July 23, 2016, 06:41:02 PM
I will gladly buy some ETHC. So many dissenters to the HF, this has more than enough potential backers to succeed. Also I don't agree with what they did and hope the existence of ETHC will send a message to the communities of older coins especially Bitcoin. Don't mess with immutability or you may split the coin in 2!

Its terrible every time investors lose their money from an unseen fault in a coin's code...but that happens to us all from time to time, its the risk we all accept investing in alt coins.

Well said Sir, well said. For the record, it wasn't Eth's code, but TheDao's shitty code.

Ah yes, of course that is true and helps the argument for ETHC. It has good fundamentals, even if it has an unfortunate theft on its books.

If you think about it. A few days ago people were contributing to this very blockchain we are referring to as ETHC. Theft and all, it had a market cap of a billion dollars. After the HF, a lot of people stopped mining it, and many more stopped paying attention to it, but it remains the same chain that a few days ago was worth an incredible amount of money. No way can that all of a sudden be worthless.

As somebody said earlier, the way to contribute to ETHC is to keep using it as usual- just don't upgrade. This is still the release that a few days ago was worth a billion dollars.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: remistevens on July 23, 2016, 06:47:52 PM
If there are people out there hoping to get some BTC for their "worthless" ETHC- I am happy to buy at that price! ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: idolacchacked on July 23, 2016, 06:51:15 PM
whats the going rate for ethc ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 23, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

I think this will be a big problem for ethc.  Most big holders like ethHF devs will have enough ethc to wipe out any meaningful value for ethc on exchanges.  They can, and likely will, destroy the buy side of the order book because they will be anti ethc.  It will be difficult to build market cap.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 23, 2016, 07:11:10 PM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

I think this will be a big problem for ethc.  Most big holders like ethHF devs will have enough ethc to wipe out any meaningful value for ethc on exchanges.  They can, and likely will, destroy the buy side of the order book because they will be anti ethc.  It will be difficult to build market cap.

This just means potential investors will have the opportunity to buy in cheap, which in turn they will no longer be "potential" investors. 

ETC is exactly the same as ETHF, without mutability. Nothing has changed except the top brass, which is the best thing that could have happened to Ethereum.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hdbuck on July 23, 2016, 07:17:21 PM
a con doesn't work without the con-fidence.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: remistevens on July 23, 2016, 07:27:47 PM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

I think this will be a big problem for ethc.  Most big holders like ethHF devs will have enough ethc to wipe out any meaningful value for ethc on exchanges.  They can, and likely will, destroy the buy side of the order book because they will be anti ethc.  It will be difficult to build market cap.

This just means potential investors will have the opportunity to buy in cheap, which in turn they will no longer be "potential" investors. 

ETC is exactly the same as ETHF, without mutability. Nothing has changed except the top brass, which is the best thing that could have happened to Ethereum.

This is the best thing that could have happened. Especially for those of us who wanted to invest in the ETH tech, but missed the boat and think its over priced.

Long term buy support will wipe out the big holders for sure. If they want to force the price of this in the "scam coin" range to discredit it, they'll sell their entire stash for a few thousand- bring it on!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 07:34:09 PM
I'm ready to buy the dump


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: marky89 on July 23, 2016, 08:38:27 PM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

I think this will be a big problem for ethc.  Most big holders like ethHF devs will have enough ethc to wipe out any meaningful value for ethc on exchanges.  They can, and likely will, destroy the buy side of the order book because they will be anti ethc.  It will be difficult to build market cap.

Yes, this is only natural. It's an uphill battle, but it's one that should be fought. Surviving the fork and making it to the difficulty adjustment was a great start. This will be a matter of endurance. I truly think there is a place in the market for an immutable Ethereum. And yes, ETH foundation and other fork insiders will try to dump Classic to hell. And maybe they will succeed in establishing a perception of worthlessness about Classic. Or maybe they will fail. If we can get listed on a major exchange, I will be market making with emphasis on supporting the bid side.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jc12345 on July 23, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
You must remember that there are cases in history where the inferior technology won the race against superior technology due to market forces and where an ethical decision lost to an unethical decision also due to market forces. e.g. it is good not to cut down trees and destroy the rain forests, but as long as there is a high demand for wood and people that live at the forests don't have alternative income, the forests will be cut down.

Similarly, one can argue ethical and all sorts of arguments for and against the hf, but if the market forces are at the new fork and the VBs dev team, then that fork will be the winning fork. Any alternative forks will just be that - alternative forks that will most probably be on the losing side.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
You must remember that there are cases in history where the inferior technology won the race against superior technology due to market forces and where an ethical decision lost to an unethical decision also due to market forces. e.g. it is good not to cut down trees and destroy the rain forests, but as long as there is a high demand for wood and people that live at the forests don't have alternative income, the forests will be cut down.

Similarly, one can argue ethical and all sorts of arguments for and against the hf, but if the market forces are at the new fork and the VBs dev team, then that fork will be the winning fork. Any alternative forks will just be that - alternative forks that will most probably be on the losing side.

Until developers realize they don't want fbi, vb or ef as their boss.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ph4nt0m on July 23, 2016, 08:58:25 PM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

I think this will be a big problem for ethc.  Most big holders like ethHF devs will have enough ethc to wipe out any meaningful value for ethc on exchanges.  They can, and likely will, destroy the buy side of the order book because they will be anti ethc.  It will be difficult to build market cap.

They will ignore it for now, but sure they can dump big time. If ETHC hits a major exchange, the price will be a small fraction of ETH. That's not a problem, really. It's more important to show the others that ETHC can keep going no matter what Ethereum Foundation gonna do.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jc12345 on July 23, 2016, 09:13:40 PM
You must remember that there are cases in history where the inferior technology won the race against superior technology due to market forces and where an ethical decision lost to an unethical decision also due to market forces. e.g. it is good not to cut down trees and destroy the rain forests, but as long as there is a high demand for wood and people that live at the forests don't have alternative income, the forests will be cut down.

Similarly, one can argue ethical and all sorts of arguments for and against the hf, but if the market forces are at the new fork and the VBs dev team, then that fork will be the winning fork. Any alternative forks will just be that - alternative forks that will most probably be on the losing side.

Until developers realize they don't want fbi, vb or ef as their boss.

People are human beings and human beings have human nature and part of human nature is to take the path of least resistance, blend in under the radar and go with the flow, especially if that path of least resistance puts food on the table. A small percentage will be different and take a stand but it is only in rare cases where resisting the flow will be successful and the attempts usually come at a high cost. e.g. high cost in this case could be mining on a chain that eventually will be dead anyways so why lose all the income between now and then?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 23, 2016, 10:39:17 PM



AHHHH

This is the thread for the new 1sat coin?


Good luck.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: remistevens on July 23, 2016, 10:40:59 PM
ETHC could also see some powerful allies. Consider that ETH is the most credible threat to BTC dominance there has ever been. Some big holders of BTC and LTC would probably love to see ETH's market cap carved up between 2 coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 10:46:23 PM



AHHHH

This is the thread for the new 1sat coin?


Good luck.



It's at 33¢


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: d-trix on July 23, 2016, 11:02:58 PM



AHHHH

This is the thread for the new 1sat coin?


Good luck.



It's at 33¢

The price looks reasonable for me.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ekrem on July 23, 2016, 11:11:29 PM
where to send this coin  pool need wallet  adress???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 23, 2016, 11:31:13 PM



AHHHH

This is the thread for the new 1sat coin?


Good luck.



It's at 33¢

The price looks reasonable for me.

That would give it a market cap of almost 30 million usd.  It would almost be in the top 10.  Ain't gonna happen.  No way it stays at 33¢ once it's on a real exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 23, 2016, 11:37:50 PM



AHHHH

This is the thread for the new 1sat coin?


Good luck.



It's at 33¢

The price looks reasonable for me.

That would give it a market cap of almost 30 million usd.  It would almost be in the top 10.  Ain't gonna happen.  No way it stays at 33¢ once it's on a real exchange.

Exactly I see a $1 value in a few months


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 24, 2016, 12:05:12 AM



AHHHH

This is the thread for the new 1sat coin?


Good luck.



It's at 33¢

The price looks reasonable for me.

That would give it a market cap of almost 30 million usd.  It would almost be in the top 10.  Ain't gonna happen.  No way it stays at 33¢ once it's on a real exchange.

Exactly I see a $1 value in a few months


I'm on board. if/when bittrex lists it ..I will buy.  forking forkers  gonna be sorry  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: reb0rn21 on July 24, 2016, 12:57:18 AM
I like this idea, and I will support it 100%

I hope soon we seen some more development, exchanges accepting this real and fair true fork!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 01:02:07 AM
I like this idea, and I will support it 100%

I hope soon we seen some more development, exchanges accepting this real and fair true fork!!!

An exchange and a market will help insure miner stability then we can continue ethereum's true vision. Once developers realize they need immutablity, they'll join us.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 01:44:39 AM
Check out @Excellion's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/757012405691949056?s=09


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Ned Kelly on July 24, 2016, 04:22:56 AM
Nice project.
However, I think there is a conceptual problem with it.
Vitalik and his team still have a very substantiation holdings from premine in this chain as well.
And if price will rise they can crash it easily and earn on it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: spain cool on July 24, 2016, 04:23:13 AM
ETC listed in polo https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 04:42:45 AM
ETC listed in polo https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc

Poloniex before Yobit, that's a new one. It's currently at ~1/20 of ETH, not bad.

Edit: there is a direct classic/fork market too but not a lot of interest there https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Nick70001 on July 24, 2016, 05:12:28 AM
Awesome that Poloniex has listed ETC. Just waiting for a good price to buy in and I am on board. So hard to figure out what is a good price.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 05:15:29 AM
https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc  

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc

Right trolls time to put your money where your mouths are...go support your coin  

but be warned......
All users who had an Ethereum balance at the moment of the fork now have a matching balance of ETC  

 The only people that have ETC are the ETH fork believers isnt that ironic  
  :P

Bitpoop put up a few buy walls...ill sell to ya   :P
lol



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 05:19:14 AM
Already at 20¢, only way is up


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: blg42598 on July 24, 2016, 05:22:33 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 05:27:30 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

Idk try https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/

ETC is the long term immutable coin already at 26¢


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 05:33:42 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Be a little more helpful thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 05:34:25 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Thanks for the cheap Ethereum.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 05:37:00 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Thanks for the cheap Ethereum.
My pleasure  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 05:37:58 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Thanks for the cheap Ethereum.
My pleasure  ;)

If you were smart, you'd be dumping your ETH, buying ETC, then selling ETC when it goes up. I guess you didn't catch on quick enough. It's the same fucking coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 05:38:46 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

If you had your own wallet (e.g. Mist) then install the classic version, make sure you're in the correct chain, and import the old ETH wallet. Make solid backups before attempting anything. Don't move the coins without fully understanding replay attacks (hint: you can lose your ETH if you move ETC without proper precautions).


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 05:45:05 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Thanks for the cheap Ethereum.
My pleasure  ;)

If you were smart, you'd be dumping your ETH, buying ETC, then selling ETC when it goes up. I guess you didn't catch on quick enough.
wtf lol i wouldve lost all my ETH in 30mins,lol if i did that
ok heres a heads up..  etc went from 0.021 to 0.003 in under 30mins....plus i got all my etc for FREE  :P

what if i told you i sold alot etc under 0.02 and bought at 0.003 and made 10x etc on my FREE etc in under 30mins and can dump this to 0 if i wanted too , would you feel better   :P :P
and i know many more bigger fish than me doing the same.....controlled demolition while making free $$  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 05:48:53 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Thanks for the cheap Ethereum.
My pleasure  ;)

If you were smart, you'd be dumping your ETH, buying ETC, then selling ETC when it goes up. I guess you didn't catch on quick enough.
wtf lol i wouldve lost all my ETH in 30mins,lol if i did that
ok heres a heads up..  etc went from 0.021 to 0.003 in under 30mins....plus i got all my etc for FREE  :P

what if i told you i sold alot etc under 0.02 and bought at 0.003 and made 10x etc on my FREE etc in under 30mins and can dump this to 0 if i wanted too , would you feel better   :P :P
and i know many more bigger fish than me doing the same.....controlled demolition while making free $$  :P

All the smart players are waiting for the whales to dump it. Please do it already. Please. It would make me rock hard.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 05:53:16 AM
Please dump, etc is the long term immutable coin

And mining etc with current difficulty and price may be more profitable so we have security

Ethf bag holders will be moving slowly but surely


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 05:54:46 AM
How do I get my etc? I held eth in my wallet. Also what wallet would I download for etc? Thanks.

you buy or mine it,lol

If you had coins on polo and supported the HF and held ETH their, u get free ETC, and i know peeps that have aloooooooot of free etc , lol
Ive dumped alot of etc just now, and im waiting for noobs to buy so i dump more,  :P
etc coin will die within 30days as ETH moves to Metropolis



Thanks for the cheap Ethereum.
My pleasure  ;)

If you were smart, you'd be dumping your ETH, buying ETC, then selling ETC when it goes up. I guess you didn't catch on quick enough.
wtf lol i wouldve lost all my ETH in 30mins,lol if i did that
ok heres a heads up..  etc went from 0.021 to 0.003 in under 30mins....plus i got all my etc for FREE  :P

what if i told you i sold alot etc under 0.02 and bought at 0.003 and made 10x etc on my FREE etc in under 30mins and can dump this to 0 if i wanted too , would you feel better   :P :P
and i know many more bigger fish than me doing the same.....controlled demolition while making free $$  :P

All the smart players are waiting for the whales to dump it. Please do it already. Please. It would make me rock hard.

I did...didnt you buy?  , i dumped again too,lol and bought a bit cheaper again, this is nuts...lol....heads up...another dump incoming...catch the knives but watch you dont get cut,lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: reb0rn21 on July 24, 2016, 05:55:17 AM
Ethereum classic   -----------> Star trek new generation & original series
Etehreum puppet Vitalik  ----> Star Trek action movie aka reboot/remake


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 05:57:42 AM
Already at 50¢


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 06:02:33 AM
So my drunk math shows that network difficulty for ETC is 200 times lower than ETH, and the exchange rate is about 30-50 times lower (lots of up/down going on still).

Anyway, no idea what that means. Profit?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:08:44 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 06:09:15 AM
So my drunk math shows that network difficulty for ETC is 200 times lower than ETH, and the exchange rate is about 30-50 times lower (lots of up/down going on still).

Anyway, no idea what that means. Profit?

Idk can you call hashking?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 06:10:23 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Great I have limit orders in


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 06:13:02 AM
At now im buying more and more etc in poloniex!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:14:03 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Great I have limit orders in

tell me where , ill fill them just for u  :-*

im using all my free etc btc to pump ETH  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 06:15:09 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Great I have limit orders in

tell me where , ill fill them just for u  :-*

im using all my free etc btc to pump ETH  :P

.0001 thanx


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: altcoinrich on July 24, 2016, 06:15:14 AM
A question: what's ETC total supply? The number of the moment of the hard fork, is it correct?   ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 06:16:05 AM
A question: what's ETC total supply? The number of the moment of the hard fork, is it correct?   ::)

No same as eth, we are the true eth continuing chain


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: altcoinrich on July 24, 2016, 06:18:24 AM
A question: what's ETC total supply? The number of the moment of the hard fork, is it correct?   ::)

No same as eth, we are the true eth continuing chain

Any block explorer? Thx


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:19:31 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Great I have limit orders in

tell me where , ill fill them just for u  :-*

im using all my free etc btc to pump ETH  :P

.0001 thanx

lol but you said this coin is worth so much more,lol cmon be brave...move the walls up  :P



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yubsep on July 24, 2016, 06:20:53 AM
ETC the new of ETH.. Will be 0.015 soon...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:21:29 AM
A question: what's ETC total supply? The number of the moment of the hard fork, is it correct?   ::)

No same as eth, we are the true eth continuing chain

Any block explorer? Thx

since ive become a major share holder in this coin( without even wanting to be ) i feel i can ask anything i want too   :P

whos is etc dev?...

thanks ,lol  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 06:21:33 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Great I have limit orders in

tell me where , ill fill them just for u  :-*

im using all my free etc btc to pump ETH  :P

.0001 thanx

lol but you said this coin is worth so much more,lol cmon be brave...move the walls up  :P



And you said you're dumping


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:23:24 AM
can u imagine hardcore ETH guys waking up and having thousands+ of free coins with 80mill+ in supply overnight on a newly listed coin on polo......

Think about it...thats is what just happened

and this does not include the hacker coins ,lol

etc is doomed


Great I have limit orders in

tell me where , ill fill them just for u  :-*

im using all my free etc btc to pump ETH  :P

.0001 thanx

lol but you said this coin is worth so much more,lol cmon be brave...move the walls up  :P



And you said you're dumping
pumpin n dumpin, lol this party just gettin started ,lol etc guys best have some deep pockets and some really gd poker players to get the etc from the ETH guys ,lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:24:44 AM
go buy guys, theres a buy wall , put your orders above it,lolol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 06:28:56 AM
A question: what's ETC total supply? The number of the moment of the hard fork, is it correct?   ::)

No same as eth, we are the true eth continuing chain

Any block explorer? Thx

http://explorer.ethereumclassic.com


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: coinbiz on July 24, 2016, 06:36:14 AM
Got in at .0008; I am positive this will go to at least .01, not even a question, too many people did not approve of the HF, myself included. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 06:37:56 AM
Hey guys, did etc get the same value if eth? This will be awesome


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 24, 2016, 06:40:43 AM


Nice nice!
A place to dump cloned coins and get free money :D


A coin with NO dev.
NO roadmap.

No future....


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 06:42:44 AM
So my drunk math shows that network difficulty for ETC is 200 times lower than ETH, and the exchange rate is about 30-50 times lower (lots of up/down going on still).

Anyway, no idea what that means. Profit?

Idk can you call hashking?

No need, I think "profit" was right, epool hashrate more than doubled since ETC was listed on Poloniex. Lots of people are gambling with rentals apparently.

It's been 2 hours, volume 1500 BTC, now at 0.0015 BTC per coin (roughly $1).


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:43:27 AM
heres some more cheap etc for u guys,lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: gegebitlover on July 24, 2016, 06:46:06 AM
hi guys Can someone help me write a file stratum fighting for so I am unable to launch it this farm directly after the launch please thank you
sorry for my english


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 06:46:58 AM
heres some more cheap etc for u guys,lol

It's funny how none of what you say is reflected on the actual order books on Polo. Surely you wouldn't be making shit up, would you?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: reb0rn21 on July 24, 2016, 06:47:52 AM


Nice nice!
A place to dump cloned coins and get free money :D


A coin with NO dev.
NO roadmap.

No future....

Vitalik is that you m8?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:48:24 AM
heres some more cheap etc for u guys,lol

It's funny how none of what you say is reflected on the actual order books on Polo. Surely you wouldn't be making shit up, would you?

lol er yes it is m8


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: solid12345 on July 24, 2016, 06:55:49 AM
Just a philosophical question, what makes the true value of ETHC, is it the actual software or the unmolested ledger?

If it's the software then in theory why aren't the multitude of ETH forks like Expanse, Shift or Krypton worth the marketcap of ETC now? I mean after all they have the same use case and an established development team, even albeit if the development is more amateurish compared to the ETH Foundation.

Or are people valuating an untouched ledger as being worth 50 million?

I guess what i'm saying is if the argument for ETHC's value is that it's "the real Ethereum" then can't you make the argument that any of its clones are also "the real" Ethereum too since many are 1:1 copies or are we just highly valuating Ethereum's previous transaction history more than the actual use case of the software?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
The eth salt is already getting strong lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 06:56:55 AM


Nice nice!
A place to dump cloned coins and get free money :D


A coin with NO dev.
NO roadmap.

No future....

what's ETH's roadmap?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 06:59:14 AM
Already at $1! Soon parity with ethf!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 07:13:57 AM
up 343% from an hour ago.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: BurningInside on July 24, 2016, 07:19:30 AM
The Russian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563268


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: altcoinrich on July 24, 2016, 07:22:30 AM
WTF....    :o :o :o :o :o

0.0024 now, damn I didn't buy it when it was 0.0003    >:( >:( :( :( :(   I regret....    :o :o


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 07:22:46 AM
cheers guys... heres some more for y'all  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 07:23:17 AM
WTF....    :o :o :o :o :o

0.0024 now, damn I didn't buy it when it was 0.0003    >:( >:( :( :( :(   I regret....    :o :o
lol it will b back down to 0.003 or lower  soon


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 07:25:46 AM
WTF....    :o :o :o :o :o

0.0024 now, damn I didn't buy it when it was 0.0003    >:( >:( :( :( :(   I regret....    :o :o
lol it will b back down to 0.003 or lower  soon

hurry the fuck up already, I want to go to bed.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ivcelmik on July 24, 2016, 07:26:36 AM
When in mine this coin from where i get an adress to receive my coins or i use Ethereum adress?

Thx in advance for help


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 24, 2016, 07:33:42 AM
When in mine this coin from where i get an adress to receive my coins or i use Ethereum adress?

Thx in advance for help
 

quick search of /r/ethereumclassic

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4uc2hi/how_to_mine_etc/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 07:34:49 AM
Already at $1! Soon parity with ethf!

-10% dump on ETH and now ETC is at nearly $2. A bit surprising I have to admit.

https://i.snag.gy/X6Brof.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: subzero01 on July 24, 2016, 07:35:34 AM
Yo guys, anyone having tips how to catch some more dumps? Maybe new exchanges adding etc? Or should i just put in buy orders at lower prices on poloniex?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ivcelmik on July 24, 2016, 07:39:14 AM
When in mine this coin from where i get an adress to receive my coins or i use Ethereum adress?

Thx in advance for help
 

quick search of /r/ethereumclassic

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4uc2hi/how_to_mine_etc/

Ty sir!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 08:01:14 AM
The Russian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563268

Thanks added


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Vegetablepin on July 24, 2016, 08:03:50 AM
https://i.imgsafe.org/479a022908.png


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 24, 2016, 08:16:38 AM
Can I mine directly to my Poloniex Etherium Classic wallet ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ph4nt0m on July 24, 2016, 09:05:34 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yubsep on July 24, 2016, 09:07:46 AM
Yes.. Read this link http://ethc.epool.io/#/help

Can I mine directly to my Poloniex Etherium Classic wallet ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 09:08:25 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)

Added


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 09:12:43 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)

Added

Did you see the volume already? 10k BTC in trading volume on Polo. Wow! It has only been a few hours too.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 24, 2016, 09:13:56 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)

Added

Did you see the volume already? 10k BTC in trading volume on Polo. Wow! It has only been a few hours too.

Yup wish I could've used bitsquare


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bobmarley650 on July 24, 2016, 09:30:26 AM
Bought a lot


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Embat on July 24, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
Let the hacker hold it all. We want stop it after all. Imutabbility is all we want use your brains .ou. don't respond.

Guys your Idea is so ridiculous. Eth fondation defend your interest by the best possible way. They easy can do the same leave the funds in thief hands. I want to be a part for such community who cares and who can change and fix unfair activities. If you want to start this ok. But most of Eth supporters will remain on the right path. Good luck to all that want to renegate from this project. ETH is one and only and it will build the future of smart contracts - fair smart contracts. Have a nice and sunny day!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 24, 2016, 09:40:55 AM
It's too bad the DAO no longer exists, because we could of used its VC funds to invest in this new project ETC  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ph4nt0m on July 24, 2016, 09:49:11 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)

Added

A mod moved it to Trashcan. WTF? Spent 2 hours on a good translation and it's gone.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Limx Dev on July 24, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
ETH Classic on Polo  :o

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: haendehochueberfall on July 24, 2016, 10:00:53 AM
Will Vitaly Buttercup keep working for mETH even if it wasn't the dominant chain? THAT's the actual question. Not that it means much because it's OS anyways.  ::)

Lots of opportunities for betting with this developements of late.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 24, 2016, 10:02:43 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)

Added

A mod moved it to Trashcan. WTF? Spent 2 hours on a good translation and it's gone.


I cannot access that at all thats odd.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 24, 2016, 10:03:49 AM
520 Block must pass before immature balances update

... whats that now?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: M0ndialu on July 24, 2016, 10:25:17 AM
ETC calculator ? How ETC reward one 7950 ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: BitYoLo on July 24, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
Indonesian Translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563400.new#new
Supporting ETC!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 24, 2016, 10:38:21 AM
ETC calculator ? How ETC reward one 7950 ?

multiples time more profitable than ETH currently. However difficulty is doubling every 2 hours or so.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 10:46:08 AM
Hey guys


Here is a new pool for Ethereum Classic https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/  Payouts run every 2 hours with 0.1 min payout and 1% fee. Server location EU


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 24, 2016, 10:53:16 AM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/miners-attack-ethereum-classic-polonixs-listing/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: faxxer on July 24, 2016, 11:05:33 AM
It's a war, Poloniex VS Miners.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 11:11:08 AM
http://i.imgur.com/PxuC8Eh.png (https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/757121339073306624)


They said....


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 24, 2016, 11:14:44 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ict on July 24, 2016, 11:15:22 AM
so how many of total supply this coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 11:16:05 AM
so how many of total supply this coins?



The same as ethereum hard-fork, it has the same functionality but most important is 'immutable'.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: coinbiz on July 24, 2016, 11:16:35 AM
Is there a 51% attack happening on ETC from ETH groups?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 24, 2016, 11:18:28 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 24, 2016, 11:24:30 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 11:28:09 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: rindo on July 24, 2016, 11:40:20 AM
http://i.imgur.com/PxuC8Eh.png (https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/757121339073306624)


They said....

yeah precisely what they said

#mars im coming


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 24, 2016, 11:42:19 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

ok that would answer my question :D
thanks

what about mrr rigs?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Shkembe on July 24, 2016, 11:42:40 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us2.epool.io:8008 -eworker 1 -ewal Your Address -epsw x


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 11:45:36 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

ok that would answer my question :D
thanks

what about mrr rigs?

mrr is working but all the rigs from mrr are rented right now lol

EDIT: bitpop can you pls add my pool to the op https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 11:45:42 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us2.epool.io:8008 -eworker 1 -ewal Your Address -epsw x
Is that for nicehash?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 11:47:24 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us2.epool.io:8008 -eworker 1 -ewal Your Address -epsw x

Is that for nicehash?

No, is for claymore miner


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 11:48:02 AM
In a few days prob etc will hit 10$.

Lets see;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 24, 2016, 11:52:33 AM
Thanks for doing this ....

I'll start to mine this

now i like ETC .... never liked the ETH owners

can anyone help me start mining it?
I mean reply with links and mine and everything ... at the moment i'm really busy and don't have a lot o time to search or everything


thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 11:56:36 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


Pool is fine. Difficulty is increasing, lots of people mining. lol.

I'm receiving payouts fine. Everything is in order. I have multiple rigs rented from MRR.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 11:58:30 AM
We need a pool compatible with nice hash asap


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hund on July 24, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
Fun fact: Price of Vitalikum is now directly tied to ETC


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 24, 2016, 12:12:34 PM
if the dao hacker moves his coins (which I think he should!) then he will dump and price will go down. right?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ict on July 24, 2016, 12:13:26 PM
In a few days prob etc will hit 10$.

Lets see;)
im interesting about this one, so if ETC goes up to 10$, what happen to the ETH and the DAO?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hund on July 24, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
In a few days prob etc will hit 10$.

Lets see;)
im interesting about this one, so if ETC goes up to 10$, what happen to the ETH and the DAO?

Vitalikum goes down in relation - there is now twice as many mETH as before. Both chains have to share capitalisation.

A few days from now people could be panicbuying ETC, who knows?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 12:21:19 PM
Now its time to make much money in long term! Haha, Just holding more and more etc.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Trade_BTC on July 24, 2016, 12:34:36 PM
Wow if etc becomes true eth it will be the most powerful statement I've seen since early btc.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ict on July 24, 2016, 12:36:23 PM
In a few days prob etc will hit 10$.

Lets see;)
im interesting about this one, so if ETC goes up to 10$, what happen to the ETH and the DAO?

Vitalikum goes down in relation - there is now twice as many mETH as before. Both chains have to share capitalisation.

A few days from now people could be panicbuying ETC, who knows?
yeah, people are confusing now, to choose a classic or new ETH.
and now etc have vloume almost 1/2 of eth volume in polo,, idk what happen tomorrow  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 12:38:28 PM
what happens to the hacked coins? will they be set free on the market?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 24, 2016, 12:47:27 PM
Wow if etc becomes true eth it will be the most powerful statement I've seen since early btc.

or at least it will shock that vits world


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4ucrzs/warning_the_owner_of_ethereumclassiccom_domain_is/




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
if the dao hacker moves his coins (which I think he should!) then he will dump and price will go down. right?


Important dates:
First childDAO’s creation period ends: 01.07.2016–16:25:02 CEST
First date for ~2000ETH leaving the system: 16.07.2016–17:04:37 CEST (split proposal #8)
End of creation time for the DarkDAO: 14.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can split: 21.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through proposal: 28.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through split proposal: 31.08.2106 05:34:48 CEST


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krjalone on July 24, 2016, 01:02:07 PM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

ok that would answer my question :D
thanks

what about mrr rigs?

mrr is working but all the rigs from mrr are rented right now lol

EDIT: bitpop can you pls add my pool to the op https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/


OK. I try your pool. Hope you like the ride  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 01:06:20 PM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

ok that would answer my question :D
thanks

what about mrr rigs?

mrr is working but all the rigs from mrr are rented right now lol

EDIT: bitpop can you pls add my pool to the op https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/


OK. I try your pool. Hope you like the ride  :)


If anyone have any problems with my pool just contact me by e-mail : coin.miners.info@gmail.com or sending me a pm here on bitcointalk forum


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LBX on July 24, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
ETC ..good?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: syypro on July 24, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
Great Job~~~~ ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 24, 2016, 01:17:22 PM
if the dao hacker moves his coins (which I think he should!) then he will dump and price will go down. right?


Important dates:
First childDAO’s creation period ends: 01.07.2016–16:25:02 CEST
First date for ~2000ETH leaving the system: 16.07.2016–17:04:37 CEST (split proposal #8)
End of creation time for the DarkDAO: 14.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can split: 21.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through proposal: 28.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through split proposal: 31.08.2106 05:34:48 CEST

so the First date an attackerDAO can sell is the 28.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 01:22:03 PM
wtf? ALL my eth and dao tokens from myetherwallet disapear!

O.o

Anyone has a same problem?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 01:23:35 PM
on this pool the hashrate is 170gh but it shows that the network hashrate is 100gh. http://ethc.epool.io/#/
this pool has 22gh http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/
this pool has 1.5 https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/

isn't the first pool going to fork the coin? shouldn't you spread the hash a bit?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Skyrik on July 24, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
lol wtf polo don't support true devs.......


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: paulc010 on July 24, 2016, 01:38:59 PM
on this pool the hashrate is 170gh but it shows that the network hashrate is 100gh. http://ethc.epool.io/#/
this pool has 22gh http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/
this pool has 1.5 https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/

isn't the first pool going to fork the coin? shouldn't you spread the hash a bit?

ethereumclassic.com isn't actually doing any accounting though, so unlikely to attract any more miners. It has paid out 0 so far :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 24, 2016, 01:39:18 PM
I would love to get into ethc since i dont trust eth at all guys and i have never used it. What I can do here is translate any announcement or related websites to greek. My work is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175769.new#new ( inbox me with a bounty guys) :D
if you guys are interested in this inbox me the details


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tosha566 on July 24, 2016, 01:42:12 PM
and that with a pool pool.ethereum classic ... Che is he does not want anyone to give a coin ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
can someone explain the way the chain is moving?

https://s32.postimg.org/i8xenr6vl/Untitled.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/i8xenr6vl/)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shapeshiftscam on July 24, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
Hope more dumpings will come, cause this coin is not worth so much, and eth is too overvalued, so that we can buy cheaper eth(etc) to profit. ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: blg42598 on July 24, 2016, 01:45:31 PM
Can someone give me an example of their windows claymore .bat file please, I keep getting errors


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 01:45:46 PM
i'd still like to know what happens to the hackers coins. will they go to market?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pandher on July 24, 2016, 01:46:05 PM
I support ETC


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 24, 2016, 01:52:37 PM
I support ETC
Buy from 18 ETC = 18 BTC support.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jacaf01 on July 24, 2016, 01:53:32 PM
if the dao hacker moves his coins (which I think he should!) then he will dump and price will go down. right?

How is that still possible, I thought the DAO attack has been restore by the Hard fork. Please enlighten me


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 01:57:37 PM
http://ethc.epool.io is down


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 02:02:35 PM
http://ethc.epool.io is down

its not down, how ever i have noticed for the past hour that my immature balance has not moved.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 24, 2016, 02:05:59 PM
http://ethc.epool.io is down

its not down, how ever i have noticed for the past hour that my immature balance has not moved.

agree no balance increase for just over an hour, miner says shares accepted


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptolord on July 24, 2016, 02:06:35 PM
I'm starting to accumulate now


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
http://ethc.epool.io is down

its not down, how ever i have noticed for the past hour that my immature balance has not moved.

agree no balance increase for just over an hour, miner says shares accepted

same, all other stats are working, just the immature blocks not increasing, curious whats going on. Still don't think there is a 51% attack going on so maybe a UI bug hopefully.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 02:07:51 PM
i can't connect to the eu server

http://ethc.epool.io is down

its not down, how ever i have noticed for the past hour that my immature balance has not moved.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 24, 2016, 02:08:27 PM
I support this effort. ETC has more legitimacy than ETH. The blockchain should not be edited to suit one's tastes.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 02:11:08 PM
it's back up now


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 24, 2016, 02:15:08 PM
is it forked?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 02:17:16 PM
is it forked?

idk, something dont feel right.

i think something has happened....

Block View information about an Ethereum Block
0x9fb2b44e7833a79af85ae3a538baaeb17ee0394c0a89b069a57dc031a42b534c
1529 Confirmations  0 Gas Used
Summary
Block Number   1937751
Received Time   1469359848
Difficulty   1001333599686
Nonce   0x78e6c91cda965334
Size   540
Miner   0x6b83f808fce08f51adb2e9e35a21a601e702785f
Gas Limit   4712388
Data   0xd78301040a844765746887676f312e352e31856c696e7578
Data (Translated)   ×ƒ „Geth‡go1.5.1…linux
Transactions - contained in current block

the pool is behind, alot


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: embraer on July 24, 2016, 02:17:51 PM
I'm mining since 4 hours and my immature balance remain empty? Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 24, 2016, 02:22:50 PM
Is there anywhere you can go to see total hashrate, or is it just a case of adding up the two major pools for now?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 02:23:17 PM
wtf? ALL my eth and dao tokens from myetherwallet disapear!

O.o

Anyone has a same problem?

What's the address? Check the explorer to see where it's gone to:

https://etherchain.org/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 02:25:00 PM
- Huge discussion for past 2 weeks whether Ethereum should bail-out
  the banks (see the R3 bank ethereum clusterfuck) right after Bit Novosti
  released "A Crypto-Decentralist Manifesto"
https://medium.com/@bit_novosti/a-crypto-decentralist-manifesto-6ba1fa0b9ede

- The Ethereum "community" voted what they call an "hard fork"
  basically a bail-out of the junkie banksters who invested on ETH
  rolling back the last history of DAO meltdown to give the financial
  stooges their money back, after having lost it on stuff they cannot
  understand (ask yourself, has anyone of them read the DAO code
  before putting money on it?? It's the language, stupid!)

- All sorts of G/Sachs and Thiel funded divas went announcing how
  "clean" was the fork, as in a painful chirurgical operation that
  went good, basically betraying their initial marketing point that
  Ethereum is decentralised (ideals? what are "ideals"?). With this
  operation they proved for the first time in blockchain buzz history
  that with a massive media campaign and having bought some leaders is
  possible to have your butt put on your face by crypto-surgery and
  still keep smiling.

- The REAL community of people behind Ethereum is now rejecting the
  bail-out, probably marking in history the first time in which there
  can be a bail-out rejection by grass-roots movements??
  Ethereum Classic is announced https://ethereumclassic.github.io

- All major ether exchanges around the world (Poloniex, Bitfinex, and
  Kraken) have announced they will support Ethereum Classic, starting
  with assigning a wallet containing ETC for ETH, 1 to 1
  Real decentralisation investors have a clear message on what is the
  reliable asset and what not. If you put your money on the buggy code
  you fail, and That's Life! (and the crypto market, likely)

- The banksters/spooks conglomerate sends a weak signal to the
  world by announcing that since yesterday Coinbase includes Ethereum
  (Coinbase is the FEDs friendly exchange which most likely handed
  over KAT torrents private account details to FBI for investigation)

To read more Aaron who seems really to get the grip of what
means journalism in the crypto-assets sphere,
his new article on all this is here:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808


More salty stuff and good reads here

https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1606/msg00050.html


https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1607/msg00006.html


If you like to support our independent efforts at Dyne.org
and fancy a 10% discount on all trade margin fees for a full month
be welcome to use the referral code on Bitfinex: hb0LQuIB0H
Bitfinex opens to Ethereum Classic next week!

Dudes we spent years without a real constituency coming out!
If Bitcoin is GOLD, Ethereum Classic is SILVER  




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: r.o.o.t on July 24, 2016, 02:25:43 PM
I like ETC, but isn't there a risk the attacker is going to dump coins and the price is going to fall ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scaryvirus on July 24, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
I like ETC, but isn't there a risk the attacker is going to dump coins and the price is going to fall ?


maybe for a moment, but it's a finite supply of coins, that will practically give them away far below market value. it's a fair redistribution of coins to people who actually want etc. the price is this low because it is being heavily dumped by many people, and it's holding very steady at near $1 even with almost 12 million usd in volume.

I just wanted to thank the new dev team for supporting this project and giving us miners a real choice away from self-bailout.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 24, 2016, 02:31:57 PM
I like ETC, but isn't there a risk the attacker is going to dump coins and the price is going to fall ?

Sure. Same is true for Satoshi, or any other currency with whales (all of them). If the attacker is smart he will burn most of them.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 02:34:13 PM
I like ETC, but isn't there a risk the attacker is going to dump coins and the price is going to fall ?

Sure. Same is true for Satoshi, or any other currency with whales (all of them). If he's smart he will burn most of them.


if the dao hacker moves his coins (which I think he should!) then he will dump and price will go down. right?


Important dates:
First childDAO’s creation period ends: 01.07.2016–16:25:02 CEST
First date for ~2000ETH leaving the system: 16.07.2016–17:04:37 CEST (split proposal #8)
End of creation time for the DarkDAO: 14.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can split: 21.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through proposal: 28.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through split proposal: 31.08.2106 05:34:48 CEST


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: enhu on July 24, 2016, 02:35:54 PM
I;d be very interested to participate whatever activity the team requires for the bounties :)
Polo seem to load very slow on my end., how much is the value of each ETC for now? IF there is signature or twitter campaign, I'd be glad to join.

edited: i can see its now $ 0.899956    


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 02:36:20 PM
i close all my btc contracts in okcoin, and transfer my money to polo. time to make a good money!

HAHA

I still in luv this ETC!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: paulc010 on July 24, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
I'm off to get a T-Shirt printed:

"You can't mute the immutable"

Congrats guys.

:D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: raphma on July 24, 2016, 02:38:09 PM
that's it, i'm moving my miner to etc!
and bought etc at 110k satos :DD good day


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 02:43:40 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: embraer on July 24, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: freshman777 on July 24, 2016, 02:45:38 PM
go, guys!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: komdo on July 24, 2016, 02:46:42 PM
something wrong with http://ethc.epool.io. back mining eth.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 02:46:56 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

Coinminers is working, always solid pools. People should move


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: embraer on July 24, 2016, 02:48:14 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

Coinminers is working, always solid pools. People should move

url please?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 02:48:21 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

Coinminers is working, always solid pools. People should move

link to their ETC pool?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Sindren on July 24, 2016, 02:48:40 PM
which pool is best for etc?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 02:49:15 PM
https://ethc.coin-miners.info


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 02:50:14 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

Coinminers is working, always solid pools. People should move

url please?

Here is the url https://ethc.coin-miners.info/ and the stratum address stratum.coin-miners.info:8008


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 24, 2016, 02:53:16 PM
Try to reach out to the creators of the Ethereum clones like Expanse. Maybe they can help you to continue the development of Ethereum classic.

I would also like to ask how much is the hashrate of Ethereum classic?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: omnik on July 24, 2016, 02:56:29 PM
Try to reach out to the creators of the Ethereum clones like Expanse. Maybe they can help you to continue the development of Ethereum classic.

I would also like to ask how much is the hashrate of Ethereum classic?

8008 port aint working...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 02:59:02 PM
Anyone plaining dump etc again? I would like buy more! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 02:59:41 PM
Try to reach out to the creators of the Ethereum clones like Expanse. Maybe they can help you to continue the development of Ethereum classic.

I would also like to ask how much is the hashrate of Ethereum classic?

8008 port aint working...

that port is working, its what i have been useing. well a payment has been sent, showed up in my wallet, still no change on the immature balance thou.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: T972 on July 24, 2016, 03:00:02 PM
Is it possible mine directly to a ETC Poloniex address from ethc.epool.io?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: coinbuyer2580 on July 24, 2016, 03:01:38 PM
So is this just an un-forked ETH? Will the blackhat who stole 3,600,000 ETH be able to cash out using your chain?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: plast555 on July 24, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

I received all coins from last night, all confirmed !

says on the main page:
ETC Payouts are once a day. We do not leave unlocked wallets unattended or on full auto. Plus it's cheaper for everyone. Thanks for supporting Ethereum Classic. We build unstoppable applications.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 03:02:59 PM
Is it possible mine directly to a ETC Poloniex address from ethc.epool.io?

I don't know about that pool man, the pool hash rate is higher than the network hashrate. Probly mining eth with your hash power lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

I received all coins from last night, all confirmed !

says on the main page:
ETC Payouts are once a day. We do not leave unlocked wallets unattended or on full auto. Plus it's cheaper for everyone. Thanks for supporting Ethereum Classic. We build unstoppable applications.

i have already recieved 3 payments, last one recently, just noticed that the immature balance has not changed now in well over and hour.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hiddensphinx on July 24, 2016, 03:12:06 PM
would be nice to see ETC price overtake the price of ETH  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: embraer on July 24, 2016, 03:14:57 PM
is anyone else seeing their immature balances increasing at http://ethc.epool.io/?
they are still finding blocks, but does not seem to be adding to immature balance.

Same to me, i'm mining more than 4 hours and my balances are stuck.

I received all coins from last night, all confirmed !

says on the main page:
ETC Payouts are once a day. We do not leave unlocked wallets unattended or on full auto. Plus it's cheaper for everyone. Thanks for supporting Ethereum Classic. We build unstoppable applications.

i have already recieved 3 payments, last one recently, just noticed that the immature balance has not changed now in well over and hour.

Yes, i have the same problem. Any solution please?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 24, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
is this true?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/miners-attack-ethereum-classic-polonixs-listing/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hugabase on July 24, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
ETC : 0x87123b3bea49ec14b137d9fcd26de57f47795deb
bounty please for my married  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 03:16:05 PM
is this true?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/miners-attack-ethereum-classic-polonixs-listing/

try this one, ETC has some serious support.

https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/ethereum-whales-offer-legal-support-for-dao-hacker-challenging-foundation


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: AbsoluteT on July 24, 2016, 03:16:59 PM
ETC to the moon


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on July 24, 2016, 03:20:52 PM
just bought a few etherium classic - looks like an interesting project  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: T972 on July 24, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
Is it possible mine directly to a ETC Poloniex address from ethc.epool.io?

I don't know about that pool man, the pool hash rate is higher than the network hashrate. Probly mining eth with your hash power lol

thanks, and is it possible to do from ethc.coin-miners.info ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Billyboy4022 on July 24, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
Has Any one manage to get nicehash to work on any pool , seam to just sit there

I have used

Stratum hostname or IP
stratum.coin-miners.info
uk1.epool.io/<MY ADDRES> /2

uk1.epool.io

 ports 8008 or 8888

User name my address  and password X


 but nothng seam to work


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: z38630610 on July 24, 2016, 03:24:36 PM
cool ,so cool so 厉害  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 03:26:18 PM
Has Any one manage to get nicehash to work on any pool , seam to just sit there

I have used

Stratum hostname or IP
stratum.coin-miners.info
uk1.epool.io/<MY ADDRES> /2

uk1.epool.io

 ports 8008 or 8888

User name my address  and password X


 but nothng seam to work


Nope


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 03:27:57 PM
Is it possible mine directly to a ETC Poloniex address from ethc.epool.io?

I don't know about that pool man, the pool hash rate is higher than the network hashrate. Probly mining eth with your hash power lol

thanks, and is it possible to do from ethc.coin-miners.info ?

Yes sir, payouts every 2 hours too. I would rather not mine on a pool that pays once a day and has stats that haven't updated for like 6 hours now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 24, 2016, 03:32:55 PM
Bittrex coming soon?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: T972 on July 24, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Is it possible mine directly to a ETC Poloniex address from ethc.epool.io?

I don't know about that pool man, the pool hash rate is higher than the network hashrate. Probly mining eth with your hash power lol

thanks, and is it possible to do from ethc.coin-miners.info ?

Yes sir, payouts every 2 hours too. I would rather not mine on a pool that pays once a day and has stats that haven't updated for like 6 hours now.

Ok thanks, moving 500mh...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sock54321 on July 24, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
What happens when the hacker destroys his coins? Maybe he is not criminal, he could aswell send them to an unspendable adress, right?
He can always hack mETH again and short it again so why would he need to sell his ETC?


edit: and what happens when ETC is the longer chain? Because that's on the table soon. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
Bittrex coming soon?

With this volume I think that's a safe bet


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: plast555 on July 24, 2016, 03:45:13 PM
is this true?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/miners-attack-ethereum-classic-polonixs-listing/

and his farm
http://www.powtopos.com/

poor guy !!

but hashrate is now much higher...216.78 GH, so his 98 GH is 33% now ( 216 + 98 = 314 GH )


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nrg_wolf on July 24, 2016, 03:49:03 PM
is this true?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/miners-attack-ethereum-classic-polonixs-listing/

and his farm
http://www.powtopos.com/

poor guy !!

but hashrate is now much higher...216.78 GH, so his 98 GH is 33% now ( 216 + 98 = 314 GH )

It was just a bluff to try and crash ETC, when you plan on doing something like that you don't go posting that shit online for all to see and point the finger at. I am sensing strong salt from eth fan boys like him.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Nefritox on July 24, 2016, 03:50:02 PM
is this true?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/miners-attack-ethereum-classic-polonixs-listing/

and his farm
http://www.powtopos.com/

poor guy !!

but hashrate is now much higher...216.78 GH, so his 98 GH is 33% now ( 216 + 98 = 314 GH )

too late i guess, he will only support ETC more if he blow that hashrate on network ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Flomess on July 24, 2016, 03:53:05 PM
Thanks for developing a Classic version of ETH, i really dislike the hf policy


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ph4nt0m on July 24, 2016, 03:58:46 PM
Any clues on this stuff? Is it bullshit or real thing?

https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/ethereum-whales-offer-legal-support-for-dao-hacker-challenging-foundation

Quote
Hello puppets,

[edit] Share this on your reddit channels and other media outlets.

What a time to be alive. If your new to crypto go get yourself some fresh air and a glass of water. This sort or craze has been happening since 2009 and it only gets better. Just remember, your emotions will destroy you in this game.

Now again, we have work to do and need to make it snappy. Our previous long positions are closed over .021 (thanks for the confidence) and bag-holders are now left scratching their heads. "What happened?" Just another day...

Im gonna bang this out and get back to the markets.

Put simply: The Ethereum Foundation is bound by the original contract that we Genesis investors supported. They are legally obliged to support the chain and develop constructively.

The Foundations funding is also tied to this contract and they must act responsible with allocated funds.

The ETH DEVS, unknown to them at this moment, are owned by the original chain that is trading as ETC on the Poloiniex exchange.

The offending hardfork clone, trading fraudulently as ETH on the exchanges was a major mistake. The original chain with integrity was never going to fade away and die. Slock.it's selfish, greedy and entitled arrogance have now cost the Ethereum community over $800M USD in losses.

The ETH logo, branding, domains, github and funds belong to the original Ethereum chain. The Hardfrok has no entitlement and must seek alternative options.

The positive to come out of this is that we now have a new authority in town. Before the drama our $USD position was commendable but has now grown beyond our forecast to include a rather ludicrous appreciation.

Did we know something before you all again? Yes we did. Poloniex supporting ETC was no surprise but we explicitly state, no information was willingly passed to us of this revelation.

Our trading activity? An 8hr liquidation of our ETH holdings and subsequent 3 hours building short positions across the 3 major exchanges.

Once the ETC was listed on Poloniex, we purchased X amount over 3 hours under .0012. As you are aware, we are defending the .001 area on the market from those who wish to harm price discovery. We wish you the best. Under a 10-1 dilution, we have enough BTC to absorb attempts and will

This may well be the most epic battle of all time but unfortunately we will win the war. What makes me so confident? Besides crypto morals and ethics (those new to crypto and ETH have no idea) we have the law in our hands. Any foolish cries about some "hack" are outlandish and crude. If BTC hardforked for every transaction we disagreed with it would be worthless by now. This is happening with the Ethereum hardfork as we speak and we reminisce of the Vericoin mintpal HF.

Fortunately for us, when we provided our BTC for the luscious 1BTC-2000ETH there was a nice little spiel that we had to agree to before ploughing BTC into the ETH foundation.

This foundation, as much as they might not like it, have a legal obligation to support and develop on this chain. The Foundations ETH funds, are not a slush fund or "free money" to do so as they please. They are there because people like me provided our support a year ago for them to do something for us on a blockchain. Develop it.

Its the funding we provided and that equity has purpose. The Clone (ETH) on the other hand has no obligation from the foundation regardless of community consensus. The foundation is bound to the original chain. They are welcome to work on the fork in their spare time but it is no priority.

We expect a statement from the Foundation within the next 72hrs expressing their support.

Now that the tables have turned and you all realise "forking" doesn's solve shit your all back to square 1. Can you fork back and recover the $USD?

We reach out to the individual/collective group who rightfully and legally claimed the DAO funds. We express our full support and offer our backing with any funding/legal support necessary. Please contact us and we will fly to your destination to begin counsel.

 

We are holding our ground and will challenge the Ethereum foundation to any objections to the above claims. We would also like to speak with any individuals that hold interest in launching action.

Our next blog post will detail our trading activity and demonstrate our influence within the ecosystem. We now reach out to collective mining pools and will be providing support and incentives for early switches back to the original network.

Due to recent success and popular demand, we will be providing an email subscription allowing access to our trade alerts and information pool. Please keep updated and follow along. I will add this feature within the next 3 hours.

Time is of the essence and I need to get back to the books -Enjoy the moment

If you found this helpful or wish to show your support, goodluck

1KbugBjuBddAhrvCUdjjjxNg6Mmy4aU9M2

thank you,

gtg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: racezefi on July 24, 2016, 04:01:00 PM
So, regarding the wallet.

Should I use the 0.80 from Ethereum Classic:
https://github.com/ethereumclassic/mist/releases/tag/0.8.0

Or use the 0.8.1 from Ethereum Fork and chose to not fork?
https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: plast555 on July 24, 2016, 04:06:10 PM
So, regarding the wallet.

Should I use the 0.80 from Ethereum Classic:
https://github.com/ethereumclassic/mist/releases/tag/0.8.0

Or use the 0.8.1 from Ethereum Fork and chose to not fork?
https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

first page, first post after OP
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 04:16:34 PM
Just made first payouts on coinminers ETC pool , just let me know if you guys received your payments :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 04:20:49 PM
What will happen now? Dump or pump?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 04:23:59 PM
Try to reach out to the creators of the Ethereum clones like Expanse. Maybe they can help you to continue the development of Ethereum classic.

I would also like to ask how much is the hashrate of Ethereum classic?

You should read up on how it works. I doubt ETC needs any help from Expanse.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: komdo on July 24, 2016, 04:24:36 PM
two payments so far from coinminers ETC pool.  :D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 04:26:44 PM
Just made first payouts on coinminers ETC pool , just let me know if you guys received your payments :)

Yep they're confirming right now, thanks man


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Tripjammer on July 24, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
It's starting to dump hard on polo, but I see bots and whales are controlling this. This will get epic bros! Looks like ETC is going to be a very good coin to trade on Poloniex!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 24, 2016, 04:43:19 PM
@ bitpop

only 2   pools exist?

if exist more pools  ,please update the OP, for all the HForkers to see that this is very serious....


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 04:46:35 PM
@ bitpop

only 2   pools exist?

Yep, people really need to spread the hashrate around. Really there's only one reputable pool that I've used for a long time, I don't use random pools that pop up like that. Learned my lesson on that deal way back. It would be cool if we could get coin-miners.info on the op


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: samspaces on July 24, 2016, 04:58:01 PM
Why isn't it possible to mine to an exchange address?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 04:58:37 PM
@ bitpop

only 2   pools exist?

if exist more pools  ,please update the OP, for all the HForkers to see that this is very serious....

There are 3 pools , my pool is not added to the OP


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 04:59:50 PM
It's amazing how clueless the forkers are about ETC:

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8590/ethereum-classic-etc

Quote
Upon it's inception, miners instantly attacked it and made it so there was little to no security and transaction verification, to the point where it was about to fail entirely



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
If you using Telegram, please join ethclassic group:

 - https://telegram.me/ethclassic  or simple search @ethclassic on telegram


95 members joined in less than 24 hours of the group creation.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 05:04:09 PM
It's amazing how clueless the forkers are about ETC:

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8590/ethereum-classic-etc

Quote
Upon it's inception, miners instantly attacked it and made it so there was little to no security and transaction verification, to the point where it was about to fail entirely



I know dude just straight up bullshit all through that article. . I guess they think in life, like eth, they can just fork shit and change the past lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krjalone on July 24, 2016, 05:04:45 PM
Just made first payouts on coinminers ETC pool , just let me know if you guys received your payments :)

Received payments and pool is working fine.  Thanks  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: YIz on July 24, 2016, 05:15:41 PM
If I have an old eth address created long ago, but I updated to the fork, can I use the same address to store fork and non-fork coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jpdorn on July 24, 2016, 05:21:51 PM
Such controversy Poloniex listing ETHC, tough they said thats was a "keepsake" and would allow people only withdraw them... #moneyrules


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: BitcoinNational on July 24, 2016, 05:26:36 PM
Such controversy Poloniex listing ETHC, tough they said thats was a "keepsake" and would allow people only withdraw them... #moneyrules

ETC has greased the Polo palms [on day 1] sufficient to stay on the board long time baby ... also http://coinmarketcap.com has given a nod ... Top10 market cap ... it maybe a bumpy ride so HODL on ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 05:29:29 PM
Such controversy Poloniex listing ETHC, tough they said thats was a "keepsake" and would allow people only withdraw them... #moneyrules

ETC has greased the Polo palms [on day 1] sufficient to stay on the board long time baby ... also http://coinmarketcap.com has given a nod ... Top10 market cap ... it maybe a bumpy ride so HODL on ;)


This whole thing is goddamn hilarious


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jpdorn on July 24, 2016, 05:36:39 PM
Such controversy Poloniex listing ETHC, tough they said thats was a "keepsake" and would allow people only withdraw them... #moneyrules

ETC has greased the Polo palms [on day 1] sufficient to stay on the board long time baby ... also http://coinmarketcap.com has given a nod ... Top10 market cap ... it maybe a bumpy ride so HODL on ;)


This whole thing is goddamn hilarious

Beyond hilarious and tragic...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Tripjammer on July 24, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Such controversy Poloniex listing ETHC, tough they said thats was a "keepsake" and would allow people only withdraw them... #moneyrules

By at least Poloniex gave everybody who had Eth when it hard fork equal etc! That is epic. You got to respect Poloniex. But yeah it's all about the money. Remember Poloniex made Eth trading what it is today...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 24, 2016, 05:46:33 PM
best forking crypto drama in awhile....
 incoming cliche....

grabs popcorn


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Tmdz on July 24, 2016, 05:46:51 PM
Anyone mining at http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/   ??

Seems the blocks are getting found but nothing happens after that, no balances or anything.  Waste of hash power?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jmpFCE2 on July 24, 2016, 05:48:12 PM
lol , the douchebags just dont want to let it go

HF Girls


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hdbuck on July 24, 2016, 05:56:04 PM
Such controversy Poloniex listing ETHC, tough they said thats was a "keepsake" and would allow people only withdraw them... #moneyrules

By at least Poloniex gave everybody who had Eth when it hard fork equal etc! That is epic. You got to respect Poloniex. But yeah it's all about the money. Remember Poloniex made Eth trading what it is today...


the sweet smell of volatility... and the bloody trading fees.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: billotronic on July 24, 2016, 05:58:17 PM
wow this shit just got a whole lot funnier.... two points to polo


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nethack on July 24, 2016, 05:59:03 PM
i still watching on polo etc price up and down lol im so lucky buying etc at 0.0003 and sell it at 0.003 lmao!! ;D


etc and polo just made my day today  :-* :-* :D :D :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: risinhigher on July 24, 2016, 05:59:38 PM
this is so sad ..


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptodv on July 24, 2016, 06:01:55 PM
Polo, this is one for the record books!!!  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 24, 2016, 06:03:54 PM
Some fees to poloniex, and some profit to expertise  is a good trade for all! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 24, 2016, 06:07:24 PM
How to mine in radeon 7850 1 gb?Download eth client,create bat,and click bat and disaper.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: AbsoluteT on July 24, 2016, 06:17:01 PM
https://steemit.com/ethereum/@cryptorune/a-ethereum-civil-war-is-happening-right-now-and-why-classic-should-win


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 24, 2016, 06:17:19 PM
How to mine in radeon 7850 1 gb?Download eth client,create bat,and click bat and disaper.


u need minimum 2GB cards ( because of DAG file ))


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 06:21:14 PM
We need a pool that works with nicehash


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 06:21:31 PM
20k BTC volume!!!!! https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc
120k ETH volume!!!! https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc



Note that this is NOT Ethereum Classic on Yobit.
https://yobit.net/en/trade/ETC/BTC

People were posting that ETC has been added to Yobit, it has not.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 24, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
So let me understand this correctly. ETC is in fact ETH but only 10% of the coins are still on that chain, and out of those 10% we have the stolen $50M, so basically this is a coin that holds the stolen ETH coins and a few people that didn't swap? Why is there so high volume on Poloniex if more then 80% of those 10% are in hands of the so-called 'thief'? Is that volume on Poloniex not just created by the thief? I will pass on this project. The only real project is ETH and this will never work.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 24, 2016, 06:53:09 PM
Quote from: Momimaus on Today at 06:45:52 PM
Whether you want to follow ETH or ETC, here is a guide for splitting easily and secure:

https://steemit.com/trading/@volka/easy-money-for-ethereum-holders-moneybag

Easy Money for Ethereum holders
59 minutes ago by volka in trading

Hey guys,

Almost everybody in Crypto knows there was a hardfork in Ethereum-land just a week ago.

Today something unbelievable happened. Poloniex added trading for the loosing chain, which is still alive.

Now the great thing for all holders of Ether at the point of the hardfork.
You have got 1 ETC (Ethereum classic) per Ether!!!

The main question burning a hole in every holders pocket: How can I simply and fast sell these ETC-coins without being in risk of loosing my regular Ether-tokens?

The simple and secure solution is sending the Ether to Poloniex. After depositing them you have automatically both coins separeted. Now you can sell your ETC coins.

For your regular ethers (ETH). You should send them back to a newly created address in Mist/Ethereum wallet.
That´s it. Secure and simple. I converted all my ether and send them back. No replay attack, nothing.

One last tip, hurry up. The majority of the holders haven´t figured it out yet or are to scared. But when they realise how easy it is, the price will decrease significant.

Congratulations for the free money and have a nice day

Greetinx Volka


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jmpFCE2 on July 24, 2016, 06:54:14 PM
pump the free ETC , enjoy the fail!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 06:54:22 PM
If I have an old eth address created long ago, but I updated to the fork, can I use the same address to store fork and non-fork coins?

Don't do that. Separate your coins and make sure to do that safely to avoid replay attacks.

So let me understand this correctly. ETC is in fact ETH but only 10% of the coins are still on that chain, and out of those 10% we have the stolen $50M, so basically this is a coin that holds the stolen ETH coins and a few people that didn't swap? Why is there so high volume on Poloniex if more then 80% of those 10% are in hands of the so-called 'thief'? Is that volume on Poloniex not just created by the thief? I will pass on this project. The only real project is ETH and this will never work.

Not 10%. All pre-fork coins are in both chains, and both chains are being mined post-fork. There is no "swap", any pre-fork bagholder has both.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: samspaces on July 24, 2016, 06:57:04 PM
We need a pool that works with nicehash

Any idea why pools don't work with nicehash?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killa-007 on July 24, 2016, 06:57:23 PM
I would need some help to mine too. when i open bat file it also dissapear, i have 3 gb memory on gpu. I can normally mine eth. And how to crate etc address.
i am trying to mine with claymore.
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 06:58:32 PM
I would need some help to mine too. when i open bat file it also dissapear, i have 3 gb memory on gpu. I can normally mine eth. And how to crate etc address.
i am trying to mine with claymore.
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/

don't mine that pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 24, 2016, 06:58:41 PM
okay my question is obsolent ... ethc death due exchange ....
would have setup a etc pool but not for a crash coin ...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 24, 2016, 06:59:33 PM
i have an old Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-3-2. and geth version 1.3.1.
havnt synched since around millionth block. (sold all my eth)
if/when I fire it up, can anyone tell me
what chain will it synch to by default when it reaches HF?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 24, 2016, 07:00:44 PM
We need a pool that works with nicehash

Any idea why pools don't work with nicehash?

nicehash means that they will have to rule everyone to use an own stratum protocol, why should poolholders implement infrastructur for them free ?
Nope, have a expanse nicehash stratum support ready but no response from nicehash for a bounty ... so that i will not implement and also not publish it...
This one could be easy addopted to eth and etc ...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Zywiec on July 24, 2016, 07:03:41 PM
However you like or dislike what happened to ETHEREUM it is fact the truly winners are miners.

Thay can mine separatey two coins with good ratio. Also double top if poloniex was choosed as primary exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Amph on July 24, 2016, 07:12:53 PM
wtf i was on whattomine, and suddenly another eth appear, it is ethc, 33% more profitable than original ethereum

this is amusingly unexpected


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gramas on July 24, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
Let me see if I get this right:

I have lots of ethereum since months, if now I start one Ethereum client with the option YES, I can start ethereum classic and I will be able to spend the same coins on both chains?

So anyone now is able to spend their ethereums 2 times if they had ethereums before the fork?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: plast555 on July 24, 2016, 07:18:24 PM
20k BTC volume!!!!! https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc
120k ETH volume!!!! https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc



Note that this is NOT Ethereum Classic on Yobit.
https://yobit.net/en/trade/ETC/BTC

People were posting that ETC has been added to Yobit, it has not.

yeah, some EtherCoin from September 2014 !!! full POS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798031.0


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 07:19:01 PM
i have an old Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-3-2. and geth version 1.3.1.
havnt synched since around millionth block. (sold all my eth)
if/when I fire it up, can anyone tell me
what chain will it synch to by default when it reaches HF?


I would guess it would stay on Classic but if i were you I would just download 0.8.1 and make an explicit choice.

Let me see if I get this right:

I have lots of ethereum since months, if now I start one Ethereum client with the option YES, I can start ethereum classic and I will be able to spend the same coins on both chains?

So anyone now is able to spend their ethereums 2 times if they had ethereums before the fork?

Read the Yes/No options carefuly. Yes is fork, No is classic.

And yes, if you had ethereum before the fork you will be able to spend those coins on both chains.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Amph on July 24, 2016, 07:23:09 PM
well in the end it's like your ethereum are worth 140k satoshi more, not really a big deal, if you had sold them when they were above 3M satoshi, it would have been much better


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: coinbuyer2580 on July 24, 2016, 07:26:23 PM
the word "classic" gives the initial impression of something old or outdated, maybe change it to something like "continuum".


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
https://twitter.com/erikvoorhees/status/757290185893699585

In my opinion miner consensus on hardfork along with hardcoded carbon vote is centralized not decentralized. I am in support of classic.

Along with Nick Szabos original ideology of decentralized consensus mechanisms through smart contracts.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gramas on July 24, 2016, 07:29:58 PM
Let me see if I get this right:

I have lots of ethereum since months, if now I start one Ethereum client with the option YES, I can start ethereum classic and I will be able to spend the same coins on both chains?

So anyone now is able to spend their ethereums 2 times if they had ethereums before the fork?

Read the Yes/No options carefuly. Yes is fork, No is classic.

And yes, if you had ethereum before the fork you will be able to spend those coins on both chains.

How do I do this right without messing it all up?

1. I start the normal ethereum, I select the YES option

2. I install ethereum classic and I copy the keysote files to the ethereum classic keystore folder

3. I send transaction from the normal ethereum to my ETH address on polo

4. I send transaction from the ethereum classic to my ETC address on polo

5. I can sell both?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jc12345 on July 24, 2016, 07:34:23 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 24, 2016, 07:36:53 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.

Hey jc congrats to legendary :)

ETC (re-)earned my respect for doing this, it's a pretty good choice IMHO.

Loading up the blockchain currently for a dedicated ETC pool


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 07:38:00 PM
https://medium.com/@zsfelfoldi/a-tale-of-two-chains-3f6d58a9df4a#.l4d3b088u


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 07:38:28 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.

Hey jc congrats to legendary :)

ETC (re-)earned my respect for doing this, it's a pretty good choice IMHO.

Loading up the blockchain currently for a dedicated ETC pool

A Suprnova dedicated ETC pool? Great news.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: megadestruct61 on July 24, 2016, 07:39:43 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.

Hey jc congrats to legendary :)

ETC (re-)earned my respect for doing this, it's a pretty good choice IMHO.

Loading up the blockchain currently for a dedicated ETC pool
Sweet will be mining once its open!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 07:43:30 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.

Hey jc congrats to legendary :)

ETC (re-)earned my respect for doing this, it's a pretty good choice IMHO.

Loading up the blockchain currently for a dedicated ETC pool

Right on


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 24, 2016, 07:47:32 PM
I've heard that BitFinex will list ethereum classic ETC very soon....


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 07:48:16 PM
Let me see if I get this right:

I have lots of ethereum since months, if now I start one Ethereum client with the option YES, I can start ethereum classic and I will be able to spend the same coins on both chains?

So anyone now is able to spend their ethereums 2 times if they had ethereums before the fork?

Read the Yes/No options carefuly. Yes is fork, No is classic.

And yes, if you had ethereum before the fork you will be able to spend those coins on both chains.

How do I do this right without messing it all up?

1. I start the normal ethereum, I select the YES option

2. I install ethereum classic and I copy the keysote files to the ethereum classic keystore folder

3. I send transaction from the normal ethereum to my ETH address on polo

4. I send transaction from the ethereum classic to my ETC address on polo

5. I can sell both?

Roughly - yes. There is however a risk of a replay attack when you send the coins so make sure you understand that part. Unfortunately I can't help you much there as I don't have any forked ETHs and didn't have to worry about that.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 24, 2016, 07:49:11 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.

Hey jc congrats to legendary :)

ETC (re-)earned my respect for doing this, it's a pretty good choice IMHO.

Loading up the blockchain currently for a dedicated ETC pool

believe also in the idea behind etc but was torpedoed with the doubled ammount of eth and etc ...
85 % loss rate ... seams to be dead before living


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 07:49:20 PM
ETC being on Polo adds an interesting dynamic to the saga.

Hey jc congrats to legendary :)

ETC (re-)earned my respect for doing this, it's a pretty good choice IMHO.

Loading up the blockchain currently for a dedicated ETC pool

This is good news for ETC, you're running solid pools.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 24, 2016, 07:54:45 PM
Someone is playing dirty :)

Both ETC pools are under ddos. My rig will not connect anymore...

Anyone knows of a third one?

http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/
http://ethc.epool.io/

Edit: working now on: https://ethc.coin-miners.info/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 07:58:39 PM
Someone is playing dirty :)

Both ETC pools are under ddos. My rig will not connect anymore...

Anyone knows of a third one?

http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/
http://ethc.epool.io/

Suprnova pool is coming soon. Be patient.

Rumor has it ethereumclassic.com is phishing and not paying out.

epool.io payouts decreased so much, idk what happened there. Ocminer runs great pools. Wait for his and you will definitely have a good pool.

coins-miners has a pool too I believe. They are a trustworthy pool. I have used them before.

edit: https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/

Can't be sure this is the same coins-miners I used before, but this is another ETC pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 07:59:49 PM
I've heard that BitFinex will list ethereum classic ETC very soon....

Don't know who "Zane" is but he confirms it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4uc61e/daily_discussion_24jul2016/d5optu0


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 24, 2016, 08:01:58 PM
Someone is playing dirty :)

Both ETC pools are under ddos. My rig will not connect anymore...

Anyone knows of a third one?

http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/
http://ethc.epool.io/

Suprnova pool is coming soon. Be patient.

Rumor has it ethereumclassic.com is phishing and not paying out.

epool.io payouts decreased so much, idk what happened there. Ocminer runs great pools. Wait for his and you will definitely have a good pool.

coins-miners has a pool too I believe. They are a trustworthy pool. I have used them before.

Payouts dont concern me right now, I just want to throw every hash I have towards ETC ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gramas on July 24, 2016, 08:03:24 PM
Let me see if I get this right:

I have lots of ethereum since months, if now I start one Ethereum client with the option YES, I can start ethereum classic and I will be able to spend the same coins on both chains?

So anyone now is able to spend their ethereums 2 times if they had ethereums before the fork?

Read the Yes/No options carefuly. Yes is fork, No is classic.

And yes, if you had ethereum before the fork you will be able to spend those coins on both chains.

How do I do this right without messing it all up?

1. I start the normal ethereum, I select the YES option

2. I install ethereum classic and I copy the keysote files to the ethereum classic keystore folder

3. I send transaction from the normal ethereum to my ETH address on polo

4. I send transaction from the ethereum classic to my ETC address on polo

5. I can sell both?

Roughly - yes. There is however a risk of a replay attack when you send the coins so make sure you understand that part. Unfortunately I can't help you much there as I don't have any forked ETHs and didn't have to worry about that.

What is a replay attack exactly? How does that work?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitChipper on July 24, 2016, 08:03:50 PM
Someone is playing dirty :)

Both ETC pools are under ddos. My rig will not connect anymore...

Anyone knows of a third one?

http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/
http://ethc.epool.io/

Edit: working now on: https://ethc.coin-miners.info/

Not surprising, I would anticipate more and more dirty play in this. Apposing sides just going to go back and forth, personally I am staying out of both until things clear up.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killa-007 on July 24, 2016, 08:04:48 PM
I would need some help to mine too. when i open bat file it also dissapear, i have 3 gb memory on gpu. I can normally mine eth. And how to crate etc address.
i am trying to mine with claymore.
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/

don't mine that pool.

where then? I wanted to use claymore(since it works on newer drivers) since its easy but whatever I do miner just closes,
where do you suggest to mine?
Do i just open geth 1.4.9 and sycn it and write geth new account ? and mine to that address or there is something mroe i need to do -.-


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 24, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
I would need some help to mine too. when i open bat file it also dissapear, i have 3 gb memory on gpu. I can normally mine eth. And how to crate etc address.
i am trying to mine with claymore.
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/#/

don't mine that pool.

where then? I wanted to use claymore(since it works on newer drivers) since its easy but whatever I do miner just closes,
where do you suggest to mine?
Do i just open geth 1.4.9 and sycn it and write geth new account ? and mine to that address or there is something mroe i need to do -.-

Coin-miners.info man been around for a long time, suprnova will have a pool up in a bit also


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: loutchano on July 24, 2016, 08:10:53 PM
hi all :)

i have some problems try mining bud i cant .. every time same error clenqueuewritebuffer
i have 2 gpu nvidia 650 ti and 650 1 gb each  and amd 8 cores and same problem with cpu miner

help me please thx .


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 24, 2016, 08:17:06 PM
hi all :)

i have some problems try mining bud i cant .. every time same error clenqueuewritebuffer
i have 2 gpu nvidia 650 ti and 650 1 gb each  and amd 8 cores and same problem with cpu miner

help me please thx .

i dont think those nvidia cards have enough memory to mine eth.
as far as cpu mining ? you maybe better off searchin for pennies on the sidewalk. :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: berk90 on July 24, 2016, 08:18:48 PM
Help pls. How can I do solo mining if possible? Thank you guys.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tageeboy on July 24, 2016, 08:27:35 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 08:29:50 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?

ETH is not ETC - you cant send ETH to ETC wallets and vica versa they are different chains.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 08:30:00 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?

You could try installing the mist wallet in a VM and selecting no to hard fork and then importing an old backup of your wallet, if you have one. You may have ETC in your wallet on the other chain, if that makes sense.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 08:32:11 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?

ETH is not ETC - you cant send ETH to ETC wallets and vica versa they are different chains.

That's not what he means, though. He means when he sent his ETH to his Polo wallet that he sent ETH to his ETH wallet and ETC to his ETC wallet in the same transaction. He tried to replicate this with a larger transaction and didn't get the same results. So, I guess he needs to find a way to open his wallet on the other chain.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 24, 2016, 08:33:34 PM
Ascic can now buy.200 mhs in hardware found post.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 24, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
So does ETC plan to fork to avoid the difficulty bomb? Will it move to PoS when ETH does?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 08:36:07 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?

ETH is not ETC - you cant send ETH to ETC wallets and vica versa they are different chains.

That's not what he means, though. He means when he sent his ETH to his Polo wallet that he sent ETH to his ETH wallet and ETC to his ETC wallet in the same transaction. He tried to replicate this with a larger transaction and didn't get the same results. So, I guess he needs to find a way to open his wallet on the other chain.

Sorry I might have misunderstood it is a very complicated post. He needs to sync to the original blockchain. You need to create a new instance with this software:

https://github.com/ethereumclassic

Try installing on a new computer.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: go6ooo1212 on July 24, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Getting this type of error , on Getwork network of this pool http://ethc.epool.io:

Code:
Found suitable OpenCL device [Tahiti ] with 3221225472 bytes of GPU memory
  m  23:35:42|main  Getting work package...
  X  23:35:52|main  Failed to submit hashrate.
  X  23:35:52|main  Dynamic exception type: class jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 28 -> Operation timed out

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...

.. On every slots
Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: marky89 on July 24, 2016, 08:44:42 PM
Really glad to see support for ETC taking off! Not only have we saved the true, immutable ETH blockchain, but we've ripped the BTC hard-fork-at-any-cost camp's arguments to shreds.

Good times! :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 24, 2016, 08:47:12 PM
Getting this type of error , on Getwork network of this pool http://ethc.epool.io:

Code:
Found suitable OpenCL device [Tahiti ] with 3221225472 bytes of GPU memory
  m  23:35:42|main  Getting work package...
  X  23:35:52|main  Failed to submit hashrate.
  X  23:35:52|main  Dynamic exception type: class jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 28 -> Operation timed out

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...

.. On every slots
Any ideas?

They are probably still under DDOS.

Try this pool: https://ethc.coin-miners.info/

Its working for me atm.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 08:48:25 PM
Really glad to see support for ETC taking off! Not only have we saved the true, immutable ETH blockchain, but we've ripped the BTC hard-fork-at-any-cost camp's arguments to shreds.

Good times! :D

Blockchains are inherently decentralized - immutability and aversion to attack and persuasion is the security methodology this is why we are all here in the first place my friend.  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: go6ooo1212 on July 24, 2016, 08:51:31 PM
Getting this type of error , on Getwork network of this pool http://ethc.epool.io:

Code:
Found suitable OpenCL device [Tahiti ] with 3221225472 bytes of GPU memory
  m  23:35:42|main  Getting work package...
  X  23:35:52|main  Failed to submit hashrate.
  X  23:35:52|main  Dynamic exception type: class jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 28 -> Operation timed out

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...

.. On every slots
Any ideas?

They are probably still under DDOS.

Try this pool: https://ethc.coin-miners.info/

Its working for me atm.

thanks , Im on coin-miners also...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 24, 2016, 08:52:22 PM
Not surprising, I would anticipate more and more dirty play in this. Apposing sides just going to go back and forth, personally I am staying out of both until things clear up.

The amicable Ethereum community that Gun Sirer et al like to brag about revealed for the hollow reverberation it actually is.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killa-007 on July 24, 2016, 08:54:24 PM
i should be getting same hashrate as I would on normal eth right? Just to make sure all is ok :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: chivaki on July 24, 2016, 08:54:44 PM
There is missing EU pool
OCminer ?  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 24, 2016, 08:55:25 PM
There is missing EU pool
OCminer ?  8)

syncing the chain... 60%


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hdbuck on July 24, 2016, 08:55:30 PM
Really glad to see support for ETC taking off! Not only have we saved the true, immutable ETH blockchain, but we've ripped the BTC hard-fork-at-any-cost camp's arguments to shreds.

Good times! :D

Blockchains are inherently decentralized - immutability and aversion to attack and persuasion is the security methodology this is why we are all here in the first place my friend.  8)

true bitcoiners are immutability freaks.

you dont wanna give them the opportunity to drive a speculative attack once you breach the immutability of any alleged system.

bitcoin rules. shitcoin dies.  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ayiphelmy on July 24, 2016, 08:57:29 PM
There is missing EU pool
OCminer ?  8)

syncing the chain... 60%
can't wait


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: teamcryptonator on July 24, 2016, 09:01:40 PM
You can place free ETC price ticker on your website https://www.cryptonator.com/widget and style it to match your design.

GL guys!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 09:07:36 PM
There is missing EU pool
OCminer ?  8)

syncing the chain... 60%
can't wait

Maybe we can get some new mining optimization for this chain :)

hehe


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: klbax381 on July 24, 2016, 09:14:16 PM
I mining classic chain and will support it. Blockchain must be immutable


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tageeboy on July 24, 2016, 09:15:50 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?

ETH is not ETC - you cant send ETH to ETC wallets and vica versa they are different chains.

That's not what he means, though. He means when he sent his ETH to his Polo wallet that he sent ETH to his ETH wallet and ETC to his ETC wallet in the same transaction. He tried to replicate this with a larger transaction and didn't get the same results. So, I guess he needs to find a way to open his wallet on the other chain.


Thanks, I am in the process of syncing the chain on another pc so I can at least recover some of the ETC. The ETH appears to be sitting in the contract that Polo was using to convert, I am hopeful their support will either manally process or return. Thanks again for the suggestion. that will get the ETC, sometign is better than nothing


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 24, 2016, 09:16:10 PM
https://ethstats.net/

Did the ETH hash rate just drop by 1 TH/s?

It was above 4 TH/s an hour ago :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 09:17:38 PM
I mining classic chain and will support it. Blockchain must be immutable

If it's not it is just a centralized database with "phantom" decentralization.

This is not true immutability or security methodology.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: GenTarkin on July 24, 2016, 09:25:04 PM
So is running the official "mist" wallet w/ rejecting the DAO fork the same thing as ETC?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: liotmaan on July 24, 2016, 09:25:16 PM
Decentralized crypto-currencies are the main reason why blockchains are actually worth anything (right now anyways) and most people should know this. It will rise to 4-5$ within the next week because of all the people who are upset about the hard fork and being let down about not being ran by a big brother sort of figure.

The best way to make money trading is to bank on feelings because that is the only reason why prices of stocks, coins, etc are given their value.

Also if you're a true believer of blockchain, do not think traders have forgotten about you because without you guys, none of us would be here and we truly do believe in the work you guys have put in.

Ethereum Classic will still reign


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 09:29:01 PM
So is running the official "mist" wallet w/ rejecting the DAO fork the same thing as ETC?

I would run this: https://github.com/ethereumclassic

Check the blocks between the two to compare if you are on the right chain.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: National on July 24, 2016, 09:29:50 PM
How a second vitalik may arise from ETC and why that new vitalik could be you:

https://steemit.com/money/@sensus/the-ethereum-power-void-how-etc-will-grow-and-why-you-could-be-the-next-vitalik-very-short-point


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 09:30:20 PM
So is running the official "mist" wallet w/ rejecting the DAO fork the same thing as ETC?

That's what I did. Worked like that for me, but I didn't have a previous "mist" installation. I think if you did you would need to rename the folder in appdata or whatever the equivalent is on your particular OS.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
So is running the official "mist" wallet w/ rejecting the DAO fork the same thing as ETC?

That's what I did. Worked like that for me, but I didn't have a previous "mist" installation. I think if you did you would need to rename the folder in appdata or whatever the equivalent is on your particular OS.

Clean install and sync correct blockchain is what is needed. Using classic software.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sock54321 on July 24, 2016, 09:31:52 PM
ETC has much broader support than the scamtoken that forked from it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: GenTarkin on July 24, 2016, 09:34:24 PM
So is running the official "mist" wallet w/ rejecting the DAO fork the same thing as ETC?

I would run this: https://github.com/ethereumclassic

Check the blocks between the two to compare if you are on the right chain.

Problem is I cant find windows builds anywhere =( ... are there any?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 09:35:40 PM
So is running the official "mist" wallet w/ rejecting the DAO fork the same thing as ETC?

I would run this: https://github.com/ethereumclassic

Check the blocks between the two to compare if you are on the right chain.

Problem is I cant find windows builds anywhere =( ... are there any?


I used this build here
https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

Remember to select "no" to dao fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 24, 2016, 09:36:37 PM
I finally managed to get connected to a pool at pool.ethereumclassic.com.  However I don't see it updating the immature and mature counts for my address.  Anyone else run into this issue?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 09:37:23 PM
I finally managed to get connected to a pool at pool.ethereumclassic.com.  However I don't see it updating the immature and mature counts for my address.  Anyone else run into this issue?

Supposedly nobody has been paid by this pool. Use the coin-miners pool for now.

https://ethc.coin-miners.info/

Suprnova pool coming soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Skyrik on July 24, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
lol this is ridiculous all forked coin didn't  be splited


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 09:42:28 PM
lol this is ridiculous all forked coin didn't  be splited

Not all forks are the same, though.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 24, 2016, 09:43:13 PM
I finally managed to get connected to a pool at pool.ethereumclassic.com.  However I don't see it updating the immature and mature counts for my address.  Anyone else run into this issue?

Supposedly nobody has been paid by this pool. Use the coin-miners pool for now.

https://ethc.coin-miners.info/

Suprnova pool coming soon.

Anyone know the syntax to get Claymore working on ethc.coin-miners.info?

All I keep getting is "ETH: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec..." when I try to use this pool...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 24, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?blockchain complete now? :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 24, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?blockchain complete now? :)

Nope, i'm at block 120.000 currently... Takes hours to sync even though I used the --fast option..


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TR8888 on July 24, 2016, 09:58:48 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?blockchain complete now? :)

Nope, i'm at block 120.000 currently... Takes hours to sync even though I used the --fast option..

Should I stay up another hour and wait or just go to bed now? lol  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 24, 2016, 10:00:55 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?blockchain complete now? :)

Nope, i'm at block 120.000 currently... Takes hours to sync even though I used the --fast option..

Should I stay up another hour and wait or just go to bed now? lol  ;D

yes tell us...this is what i want to know^^

~1.940.000 is the blockcount...so we need few more time...maybe an hr or 2


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 24, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?blockchain complete now? :)

Nope, i'm at block 120.000 currently... Takes hours to sync even though I used the --fast option..

Should I stay up another hour and wait or just go to bed now? lol  ;D

yes tell us...this is what i want to know^^

It'll probably take more than an hour, go to bed and tomorrow everything will be up and running :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 10:13:13 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?blockchain complete now? :)

Nope, i'm at block 120.000 currently... Takes hours to sync even though I used the --fast option..

Should I stay up another hour and wait or just go to bed now? lol  ;D

yes tell us...this is what i want to know^^

It'll probably take more than an hour, go to bed and tomorrow everything will be up and running :)

 8) We are waiting for one of your beautiful pools my friend.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: metropolit on July 24, 2016, 10:13:51 PM
I have restored my DAO tokens on a new blockchain.
Can i restore them on the classic blockchain as well?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
I have restored my DAO tokens on a new blockchain.
Can i restore them on the classic blockchain as well?

Yes of course.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gramas on July 24, 2016, 10:25:41 PM
Where can I get the windows client for ethereum classic?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 10:32:21 PM
Where can I get the windows client for ethereum classic?

I used this one.

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You need to do a clean install. Make sure to backup your ETH wallet if you already have one. You need to select "no" to fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kirilvvbg on July 24, 2016, 10:41:28 PM
Before you flame me, yes, I have screwed up bad. That being said, is there any way to fix this situation?

I sent a test to Polo from what I though was pre hf mist. It worked and I was given 13 ETC for the 13 ETH i sent along with my ETH. So I sent 400 eth but apparently something went wrong, user error I am sure. It looks like I sent 400 ETH to the polo ETC wallet address. My test worked, but the big transfer didn't. So now I can see 400 eth that was sent to the Polo ETC wallet address successfully but no conversion of any sort. this also took the ETH from my post HF wallet as well. I have a ticket with Polo open but wanted to ask if there was anything I can do on my side to recover the 400 ETH? Any ideas? I later found a splitter contract that apparently is designed to avoid this exact situation but I am a day late and a dollar short.

I am willing to offer up a reward to anyone who can help me recover. Any ideas?

ETH is not ETC - you cant send ETH to ETC wallets and vica versa they are different chains.

That's not what he means, though. He means when he sent his ETH to his Polo wallet that he sent ETH to his ETH wallet and ETC to his ETC wallet in the same transaction. He tried to replicate this with a larger transaction and didn't get the same results. So, I guess he needs to find a way to open his wallet on the other chain.



Thanks, I am in the process of syncing the chain on another pc so I can at least recover some of the ETC. The ETH appears to be sitting in the contract that Polo was using to convert, I am hopeful their support will either manally process or return. Thanks again for the suggestion. that will get the ETC, sometign is better than nothing

Man, I did the same mistake. From my mobile (freewallet) ETH address I sent ETH (thankfully only 10) to my polo ETC address.
Please let me know if you have any success.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 10:48:44 PM
For those who want to mine on https://ethc.coin-miners.info/ by using claymore miner software dont use -esm 1 use -esm 0 the eth-proxy mode


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 10:49:57 PM
https://twitter.com/NiceHashMining/status/757346816283344896

Pools are now Nicehash compatible!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nicehash on July 24, 2016, 10:54:45 PM
If you would like to mine on http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ by rented hashing power you can now do it so with NiceHash:

1. register an account at https://www.nicehash.com
2. go to Account / Manage my pools, enter pool details:

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://pool.ethereumclassic.com
Pool PORT: 8008
Username: your ETC address
Password: # (you actually have to put # char for password, see here for details: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=91)

3. go to Account / New Order and place new order.

Keep on hashing!


Best regards,
NiceHash team.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gramas on July 24, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
Can someone explain me what they mean by the first point here:

https://github.com/ethereumclassic/README/issues/3

"First of all, it is advisable to use two separate sets of private keys for operations on each network: one set for Ethereum, another for Ethereum Classic. Don't reuse the same key on the other network, even though they have the same format."

It means I cannot use the same Address for transactions on both chains? I'm confused with that


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Wolf Rainer on July 24, 2016, 10:59:55 PM
You must think about this... ETH can only pump 1.5X, but ETC can pump 15X. So whos the winner? ETC will win this battle.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 11:00:46 PM
You must think about this... ETH can only pump 1.5X, but ETC can pump 15X. So whos the winner? ETC will win this battle.

Always remember centrally controlled and manipulated things are bad as we saw with carbonvote.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 24, 2016, 11:05:53 PM
If you would like to mine on http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ by rented hashing power you can now do it so with NiceHash:

1. register an account at https://www.nicehash.com
2. go to Account / Manage my pools, enter pool details:

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://pool.ethereumclassic.com
Pool PORT: 8008
Username: your ETC address
Password: # (you actually have to put # char for password, see here for details: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=91)

3. go to Account / New Order and place new order.

Keep on hashing!


Best regards,
NiceHash team.



I can confirm that nicehash is working with coinminers pool but dont forget tu use this char as a password # , if you dont use # as a password won;t work


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Trade_BTC on July 24, 2016, 11:06:11 PM
You must think about this... ETH can only pump 1.5X, but ETC can pump 15X. So whos the winner? ETC will win this battle.

Agreed and after bitfinex adds etc it should start to find a much higher price it looks heavily held down right now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 24, 2016, 11:06:30 PM
If you would like to mine on http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ by rented hashing power you can now do it so with NiceHash:

1. register an account at https://www.nicehash.com
2. go to Account / Manage my pools, enter pool details:

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://pool.ethereumclassic.com
Pool PORT: 8008
Username: your ETC address
Password: # (you actually have to put # char for password, see here for details: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=91)

3. go to Account / New Order and place new order.

Keep on hashing!


Best regards,
NiceHash team.



Only problem is a lot of users report not getting payouts from that pool, one user also reported a social engineering attack.

Better if people use the coinminers pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 24, 2016, 11:20:28 PM
ocminer how long do u need for the new pool?[Suspicious link removed]plete now? :)

Why do we need a new pool? ETC should not be launched in the first place.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on July 24, 2016, 11:21:06 PM
If you would like to mine on http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ by rented hashing power you can now do it so with NiceHash:

1. register an account at https://www.nicehash.com
2. go to Account / Manage my pools, enter pool details:

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://pool.ethereumclassic.com
Pool PORT: 8008
Username: your ETC address
Password: # (you actually have to put # char for password, see here for details: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=91)

3. go to Account / New Order and place new order.

Keep on hashing!


Best regards,
NiceHash team.



Only problem is a lot of users report not getting payouts from that pool, one user also reported a social engineering attack.

Better if people use the coinminers pool.

suprnova is coming soon I believe.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 24, 2016, 11:24:08 PM
What is a replay attack exactly? How does that work?

The transactions you broadcast to one chain can be replayed on the other chain and cause your ETH to move when you move ETC and vice versa. Best is to move the coins to new addresses and stop using prefork addresses.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Majormax on July 24, 2016, 11:25:41 PM
I have restored my DAO tokens on a new blockchain.
Can i restore them on the classic blockchain as well?

Yes of course.

So the Dao persits in the Classic Blockchain, with all it's vulnerabilities to legal manipulation.

The outcome here would seem to depend on the degree of infrastructure written for the ETC chain. Can the old versions of Mist etc and wallets be used (for ETC)  without any updating ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 24, 2016, 11:33:08 PM
I have restored my DAO tokens on a new blockchain.
Can i restore them on the classic blockchain as well?

Yes of course.

So the Dao persits in the Classic Blockchain, with all it's vulnerabilities to legal manipulation.

The outcome here would seem to depend on the degree of infrastructure written for the ETC chain. Can the old versions of Mist etc and wallets be used (for ETC)  without any updating ?

Some updating will be necessary for ETC chain because ETH has difficulty bomb coded into into it.  It will have to choose to follow ETH dev's PoS path or stay with PoW. 

As for DAO, maybe the hacker can fulfill its mission and fund some startups with ETC?  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: coinbiz on July 24, 2016, 11:50:37 PM
Will any Chinese exchanges support ETC?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: merc84 on July 24, 2016, 11:53:24 PM
Is there anyway to see if the hacker has moved funds on the etc chain?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: visaco on July 24, 2016, 11:56:52 PM
what is the correct wallet for ubuntu.  I have ETC on poloniex....i prefere to have them on my computer ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Wolf Rainer on July 25, 2016, 12:08:24 AM
Is there anyway to see if the hacker has moved funds on the etc chain?

Lol, that was an inside job. That hack was the perfect excuse for Vitalik to fork Ethereum and make a lot of money. Classic false flag attack.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: capone1340 on July 25, 2016, 12:12:47 AM
Will any Chinese exchanges support ETC?
because this is not a problem of Chinese or btc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: trincaxt on July 25, 2016, 12:34:51 AM

kindly as I could mine solo and possible?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: alesx.onfire on July 25, 2016, 12:39:18 AM
I'm downloading the blockchain (still 300.000 blocks pending).. totally a "pain in the ass"...
The last time i downloaded a full one was in 2014, with btc (took me like 16hrs).

Support the idea.
(i saw your avatar on reddit, lol)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 12:41:31 AM
NO DAPPS ON ETC & ETC WILL HAVE TO FORK SOON

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

We discourage any attacks on ETC and encourage everyone to keep calm and not act emotionally. Our attitude towards ETC is the same as our attitude towards Rootstock was: it is useful for our dapps to the extent that we can perform cross-chain logic to interact with their ecosystem.

Digix Team and Maker Team

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 12:45:09 AM
Congrats everyone, coup d'etat was successful! Tyranny and dictatorship of vitalik is over!

So much crying here from oligarchs. ETC is the original chain and is rock solid. ETH is burning to the ground for their decision for a centralized bail out.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 12:47:11 AM
I have made a better Russian thread (no Google Translate used):

[ETC] Ethereum Classic: неизменяемые "умные" контракты (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328.0)

Added

A mod moved it to Trashcan. WTF? Spent 2 hours on a good translation and it's gone.


Ask in meta


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 12:52:48 AM
can someone tell me what i need to fill in on nicehash for mining this on ethc.pool ?

filled in something like this
stratum+tcp://uk1.epool.io:8008

and in username i put my wallet address but what to do next?password x ? i cant get a pool connection

Looks like the chain is under attack.
The pools having problems accepting all packets.

This might be the result of DDoS and mining attacks.


This coin will probably fork to shit too..


ah ok but can u tell me a full line for nicehash to mine etc

You can't mine with nicehash on that pool same for my pool is not compatible with nicehash

ok that would answer my question :D
thanks

what about mrr rigs?

mrr is working but all the rigs from mrr are rented right now lol

EDIT: bitpop can you pls add my pool to the op https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/

Done

We have mining pools supporting Ethereum Classic:

http://ethc.epool.io
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com - might be a scam
https://ethc.coin-miners.info


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: gross on July 25, 2016, 12:57:56 AM
no  Immature Balance from ethc.epool.io and no payout  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: greenuser on July 25, 2016, 01:04:08 AM
I would love to mine ETC but have no wallet.  I don't want to download the whole blockchain and have ethereum running on my computer again.  I started mining ETH solo to a geth instance way back but ended up mining ETH (up until the fork) at nanopool using a web based wallet MyEtherWallet.com but that is ETH yes?  

I don't want to support ETH so I will keep my hashpower pointing at feathercoin until there is a "lite" wallet for ETC... but as soon as... I will pool mine ETC 24/7.  You have my support.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 01:08:43 AM
Ill swap my dao tokens now. and ill buy more etc after that


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hund on July 25, 2016, 01:11:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/x0px1mK.png


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 25, 2016, 01:13:34 AM
https://twitter.com/Perryll/status/757381725941104640 (https://twitter.com/Perryll/status/757381725941104640)

Tweet to @richiela to add ETC to Bittrex!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 01:22:46 AM
We're #6! http://coinmarketcap.com


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: raphma on July 25, 2016, 01:27:25 AM
Tomorrow will be a great day! the first 24h of ETC were about dumping and fear/FUD, now people are seeing ETC is here to stay.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 01:34:01 AM
Really glad to see support for ETC taking off! Not only have we saved the true, immutable ETH blockchain, but we've ripped the BTC hard-fork-at-any-cost camp's arguments to shreds.

Good times! :D

Blockchains are inherently decentralized - immutability and aversion to attack and persuasion is the security methodology this is why we are all here in the first place my friend.  8)

true bitcoiners are immutability freaks.

you dont wanna give them the opportunity to drive a speculative attack once you breach the immutability of any alleged system.

bitcoin rules. shitcoin dies.  8)

Exactly exactly why I'm here


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bistrobit on July 25, 2016, 01:36:20 AM
ETC this week 0.005 btc _it will be epic , eth will go down till 7 $
better time to buy etc  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 01:37:56 AM
I would love to mine ETC but have no wallet.  I don't want to download the whole blockchain and have ethereum running on my computer again.  I started mining ETH solo to a geth instance way back but ended up mining ETH (up until the fork) at nanopool using a web based wallet MyEtherWallet.com but that is ETH yes?  

I don't want to support ETH so I will keep my hashpower pointing at feathercoin until there is a "lite" wallet for ETC... but as soon as... I will pool mine ETC 24/7.  You have my support.  

You can try using a Poloniex deposit address for mining. Normally I would advice against using exchanges as wallets but this shitty blockchain that takes days to sync is getting on my nerves too.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: rindo on July 25, 2016, 01:38:20 AM
We're #6! http://coinmarketcap.com

Very nice so far

I think it would be much better in the next few days in the top 5


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 25, 2016, 01:43:09 AM
Grabs the popcorn  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:17:01 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after  Tongue

bitpoops self mod forum is the best place for etc...wtf is that the best you guys can do ??


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: chickenfried12 on July 25, 2016, 02:20:06 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.
  That is assuming no development  for etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:21:56 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding, we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 25, 2016, 02:22:12 AM
Payouts are once a day

no  Immature Balance from ethc.epool.io and no payout  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:22:39 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:23:22 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:24:27 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TrueAnon on July 25, 2016, 02:25:14 AM
ALL HAIL THE NEW ETC!!!

Or no? :D

LOL I just love seeing the ETH vs. ETC battle for bullshit-over-priced shitcoin supremacy of scam and whale bot pump manipulation champion!!!

 8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:25:59 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

What's the dao have to do with forking?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Omega.SportSciencie on July 25, 2016, 02:26:03 AM
So this ETC holders continuing the old block chain also preserved their forked ETH? They multiplied their ETH by 2x?
If this is true then your ETC doesnt sounds legit.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:26:44 AM
ALL HAIL THE NEW ETC!!!

Or no? :D

LOL I just love seeing the ETH vs. ETC battle for bullshit-over-priced shitcoin supremacy of scam and whale bot pump manipulation champion!!!

 8)

lol orite m8...long time, hope your doin well... :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 25, 2016, 02:27:03 AM
Well its been over 24 hours and the price still hasn't crashed. Many people just sold their "free" ETC balance and price still held up. Must be a major player buying up all this. Maybe its the Chinese.

Very bullish indicator.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:27:51 AM
So this ETC holders continuing the old block chain also preserved their forked ETH? They multiplied their ETH by 2x?
If this is true then your ETC doesnt sounds legit.

No ethf isn't legit, etc is the true original chain


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:28:34 AM
Well its been over 24 hours and the price still hasn't crashed. Many people just sold their "free" ETC balance and price still held up. Must be a major player buying up all this. Maybe its the Chinese.

Very bullish indicator.

People bought a fuck load last night including me


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 02:30:20 AM
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

You can ask even if you aren't the imaginary "holder". But what difference does it make? Whenever it gets forked you can choose whichever fork you prefer. That's how crypto works, not by Vitalik's decree.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:31:50 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

What's the dao have to do with forking?

so i guess thats a no fork until after he gets his funds...if you dont understand why im asking then be prepared to lose alot of $$.

dapps wont work until you fork....when will this happen?
who will write the fork?
who will verify the fork code?
are you sure you can get consensus?
will the fork make etc into another 2 chain coin?
will metropolis wrok with etc?
why does the etc blockchain take soo long to sync?

i have many more but ill ask them tommrow...gotta keep you guys busy,lol  :)





Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Omega.SportSciencie on July 25, 2016, 02:32:37 AM
So this ETC holders continuing the old block chain also preserved their forked ETH? They multiplied their ETH by 2x?
If this is true then your ETC doesnt sounds legit.

No ethf isn't legit, etc is the true original chain

You are not legit supporting a scammer who hacked DAO holders.
Yes supporting because the no-action equals support.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:32:48 AM
My etc synced in an hour

There is no dao fork ever


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:33:12 AM
So this ETC holders continuing the old block chain also preserved their forked ETH? They multiplied their ETH by 2x?
If this is true then your ETC doesnt sounds legit.

No ethf isn't legit, etc is the true original chain

You are not legit supporting a scammer who hacked DAO holders.
Yes supporting because the no-action equals support.


Wrong we're following the law, code is law. The ONLY value of a blockchain and smart contracts.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 25, 2016, 02:33:49 AM
Wait sorry not my pool

If you would like to mine on http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ by rented hashing power you can now do it so with NiceHash:

1. register an account at https://www.nicehash.com
2. go to Account / Manage my pools, enter pool details:

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://pool.ethereumclassic.com
Pool PORT: 8008
Username: your ETC address
Password: # (you actually have to put # char for password, see here for details: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=91)

3. go to Account / New Order and place new order.

Keep on hashing!


Best regards,
NiceHash team.



Only problem is a lot of users report not getting payouts from that pool, one user also reported a social engineering attack.

Better if people use the coinminers pool.

suprnova is coming soon I believe.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:35:01 AM
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

You can ask even if you aren't the imaginary "holder". But what difference does it make? Whenever it gets forked you can choose whichever fork you prefer. That's how crypto works, not by Vitalik's decree.

wake up m8...to be given a large qauntity of coin for free on an exchange is not goood for the coin.  
wait till the etc miners and noobs that paid real $ for etc begin dumping,lol where is the buy support gona come from?
if it does go up a bit in price, there is 80mill+ coins that people got for free ready to dump on y'all


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Game_Seller on July 25, 2016, 02:35:03 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

What's the dao have to do with forking?

so i guess thats a no fork until after he gets his funds...if you dont understand why im asking then be prepared to lose alot of $$.

dapps wont work until you fork....when will this happen?
who will write the fork?
who will verify the fork code?
are you sure you can get consensus?
will the fork make etc into another 2 chain coin?
will metropolis wrok with etc?
why does the etc blockchain take soo long to sync?

i have many more but ill ask them tommrow...gotta keep you guys busy,lol  :)





I can help you answer all questions with one line, eth devs clearly already stated they will support both chains. Now go home you're drunk.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 25, 2016, 02:36:14 AM
So this ETC will never go POS but will stay on Metropolis POW forever?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Omega.SportSciencie on July 25, 2016, 02:37:06 AM
Well then this looks funny, let's fork again so we can have now the three of a kind.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
Is http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ legit?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:38:13 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

What's the dao have to do with forking?

so i guess thats a no fork until after he gets his funds...if you dont understand why im asking then be prepared to lose alot of $$.

dapps wont work until you fork....when will this happen?
who will write the fork?
who will verify the fork code?
are you sure you can get consensus?
will the fork make etc into another 2 chain coin?
will metropolis wrok with etc?
why does the etc blockchain take soo long to sync?

i have many more but ill ask them tommrow...gotta keep you guys busy,lol  :)





I can help you answer all questions with one line, eth devs clearly already stated they will support both chains. Now go home you're drunk.
wrong eth devs wont help to fork the old chain when it fks up....dapps dont work...etc will have to hardfork...  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Game_Seller on July 25, 2016, 02:38:36 AM
Is http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ legit?

Reports of no payments from them.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 02:39:14 AM
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

You can ask even if you aren't the imaginary "holder". But what difference does it make? Whenever it gets forked you can choose whichever fork you prefer. That's how crypto works, not by Vitalik's decree.

wake up m8...to be given a large qauntity of coin for free on an exchange is not goood for the coin. 
wait till the etc miners and noobs that paid real $ for etc begin dumping,lol where is the buy support gona come from?
if it does go up a bit in price, there is 80mill+ coins that people got for free ready to dump on y'all

Keep talking pumpy, you still fail to fill my orders


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Omega.SportSciencie on July 25, 2016, 02:39:22 AM
I'm selling the domain name Ethereum.link for ETCs. Pm


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Game_Seller on July 25, 2016, 02:40:00 AM
@Bitpoop
i dont know why your trying to delete the fact that etc will need to FORK for dapps to work and prob die when Metropolis comes out.

You're just fudding

no its the truth..tell me where im wrong please?

we'll fork when it's needed if no balances are changed, what's the problem? You haven't stated a problem
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

What's the dao have to do with forking?

so i guess thats a no fork until after he gets his funds...if you dont understand why im asking then be prepared to lose alot of $$.

dapps wont work until you fork....when will this happen?
who will write the fork?
who will verify the fork code?
are you sure you can get consensus?
will the fork make etc into another 2 chain coin?
will metropolis wrok with etc?
why does the etc blockchain take soo long to sync?

i have many more but ill ask them tommrow...gotta keep you guys busy,lol  :)





I can help you answer all questions with one line, eth devs clearly already stated they will support both chains. Now go home you're drunk.
wrong eth devs wont help to fork the old chain when it fks up....dapps dont work...etc will have to hardfork...  

Look if they say they will support it they will there's a group of people that won't let the price of etc fall so any fud won't make eth go up or etc fall just give it up.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:40:49 AM
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

You can ask even if you aren't the imaginary "holder". But what difference does it make? Whenever it gets forked you can choose whichever fork you prefer. That's how crypto works, not by Vitalik's decree.

wake up m8...to be given a large qauntity of coin for free on an exchange is not goood for the coin. 
wait till the etc miners and noobs that paid real $ for etc begin dumping,lol where is the buy support gona come from?
if it does go up a bit in price, there is 80mill+ coins that people got for free ready to dump on y'all

Keep talking pumpy, you still fail to fill my orders

obs you value etc at 0.0001 lol , thats like 2cents, id rather keep them to torture you lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 25, 2016, 02:41:51 AM
Is http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ legit?

NO ITS A SCAM


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:43:27 AM
ok guys, im gona back off a bit as long as you guys back of from eth thread..
please work hard to make etc price go up  :)


ill be nice if you are  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 25, 2016, 02:44:46 AM
All I know is everytime I see your name I think it says mr. Pumpertits


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 02:46:34 AM
All I know is everytime I see your name I think it says mr. Pumpertits

lol u need to get out a bit more


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hund on July 25, 2016, 02:47:22 AM
ok guys, im gona back off a bit as long as you guys back of from eth thread..
please work hard to make etc price go up  :)


ill be nice if you are  :)


lol, what a fag


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: basyaru on July 25, 2016, 02:54:57 AM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 25, 2016, 02:57:03 AM
Is http://pool.ethereumclassic.com/ legit?

I can't believe people have thrown that much hash at that pool and kept it there with no payout or comment from the pool. Could have smashed alot of blocks on coinminers. The whole thing is odd.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 03:15:07 AM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Added, I can't vouch for any of the pools, be careful


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 25, 2016, 03:16:12 AM
All I know is everytime I see your name I think it says mr. Pumpertits

lol u need to get out a bit more

Shit I'm good brother, I got better things to do than fud on shit so I can make 50 bucks. Really you seem like a bit of a rookie man. Fudding is an artform. Don't be so damn transparent. If your gonna operate that way at least be good at it lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: greenuser on July 25, 2016, 03:18:30 AM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Added, I can't vouch for any of the pools, be careful

I can vouch for nanopool.org  They are good people.  That is where i will mine, i have mined there before.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 03:20:57 AM
As a major etc holder im sure i can ask if you plan on forking before the dao hacker receives his coins or after?

You can ask even if you aren't the imaginary "holder". But what difference does it make? Whenever it gets forked you can choose whichever fork you prefer. That's how crypto works, not by Vitalik's decree.

wake up m8...to be given a large qauntity of coin for free on an exchange is not goood for the coin.  
wait till the etc miners and noobs that paid real $ for etc begin dumping,lol where is the buy support gona come from?
if it does go up a bit in price, there is 80mill+ coins that people got for free ready to dump on y'all

Well, that's your problem then. Nothing to do with any forks. ETC isn't forking to save bagholders from their stupidity, ETH is.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Jacques21 on July 25, 2016, 03:23:00 AM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Added, I can't vouch for any of the pools, be careful

I can vouch for nanopool.org  They are good people.  That is where i will mine, i have mined there before.



Yeah id rather go with nanopool then the others. Nanopool have never let me down.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 25, 2016, 03:24:16 AM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Added, I can't vouch for any of the pools, be careful

I can vouch for nanopool.org  They are good people.  That is where i will mine, i have mined there before.



Yeah id rather go with nanopool then the others. Nanopool have never let me down.

Same here


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 25, 2016, 03:26:40 AM
No doubt, fuck that dude and his stolen coins, that's crypto...you don't pack up your morals and everything people have worked hard to build because of one ordeal. Guess what, there's gonna be plenty more. What are they gonna do fork everytime they lose? Then what? Call a meeting and try and police crypto and decide who gets a bail out and who doesnt? Nah man...fuck all that.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: zavage on July 25, 2016, 03:28:26 AM
Whatch out with pool.ethereumclassic.com, rigs did whole night and nothing earned.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Jacques21 on July 25, 2016, 03:29:39 AM
Whatch out with pool.ethereumclassic.com, rigs did whole night and nothing earned.

Yeah they havent paid anyone yet, dont think theyre gonna pay.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: greenuser on July 25, 2016, 03:30:38 AM
I would love to mine ETC but have no wallet.  I don't want to download the whole blockchain and have ethereum running on my computer again.  I started mining ETH solo to a geth instance way back but ended up mining ETH (up until the fork) at nanopool using a web based wallet MyEtherWallet.com but that is ETH yes?  

You can try using a Poloniex deposit address for mining. Normally I would advice against using exchanges as wallets but this shitty blockchain that takes days to sync is getting on my nerves too.

If I mine to an exchange address they will charge me for each deposit.
As I will be pool mining and the payments will be small and frequent, the exchange will take a large chunk.

There needs to be a lite wallet if you want people to support Classic.  Can we get MyEtherWallet.com on board?

I don't want to support ETH and am currently mining at eth.nanopool.org.
I will swap my hashpower to  point at feathercoin until there is a "lite" wallet for ETC... but as soon as this happens I will pool mine ETC 24/7 at etc.nanopol.org  You have my support.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Qbanow on July 25, 2016, 03:51:37 AM
What's happening with https://ethc.coin-miners.info/ stop payments as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: greenuser on July 25, 2016, 03:53:07 AM
Maybe ETH will win just off the back of wallet availability.  https://www.whattomine.com show ETC is more profitable than ETH at the moment.  But not by much.  I would sooner mine ETC but have no choice other than to mine ETH if i want to make money.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 25, 2016, 03:57:38 AM
What is the latest news on the Chinese guy Chandler Guo? He threatened Ethereum classic that he will do a 51% attack on it and even posted a photo of himself with his mining farm. Do you think he will really do it? Isn't more profitable for him to instead mine and earn ETC and ETH side by side? What is his motivation?

I have a feeling that it is possible that he is paid by one of Ethereum Foundation cohorts to wreak havoc on Ethereum classic.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Tmdz on July 25, 2016, 04:00:13 AM
Whatch out with pool.ethereumclassic.com, rigs did whole night and nothing earned.

Yeah they havent paid anyone yet, dont think theyre gonna pay.

Pretty good scam going on there, they have raked in a good $9'000 in just a few short days and likely to be even more.

Nano is up and running now and they have always been good.

----

Never expected this to take off like it is, personally I think the support will only grow from here.  Look at the huge positive, we can finally get eth er etc coins much cheaper and this chain could overtake the forked one.   There really is no reason that it should not being this is the original chain that sticks to its core values.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 25, 2016, 04:01:51 AM

Nanopool is always legit. And their servers are more robust than most.




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: greenuser on July 25, 2016, 04:03:19 AM
What is the latest news on the Chinese guy Chandler Guo? He threatened Ethereum classic that he will do a 51% attack on it and even posted a photo of himself with his mining farm. Do you think he will really do it? Isn't more profitable for him to instead mine and earn ETC and ETH side by side? What is his motivation?

I have a feeling that it is possible that he is paid by one of Ethereum Foundation cohorts to wreak havoc on Ethereum classic.

I think that threat came and went already.  His miners are all rented out to cloud miners and from that pic it looks like the algorithm is all wrong anyway. SHA 265 rather than Ethhash


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 25, 2016, 04:05:11 AM
https://www.f2pool.com says classic coming soon on their page.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 25, 2016, 04:11:19 AM
What is the latest news on the Chinese guy Chandler Guo? He threatened Ethereum classic that he will do a 51% attack on it and even posted a photo of himself with his mining farm. Do you think he will really do it? Isn't more profitable for him to instead mine and earn ETC and ETH side by side? What is his motivation?

I have a feeling that it is possible that he is paid by one of Ethereum Foundation cohorts to wreak havoc on Ethereum classic.

Lol!! Yeah...let's fork, you know because we're involved with big time business people that don't like theft...then we're going to publicly announce that we're going to attack another group in the community in order to ruin they're currency because they believe when we said no do overs that we should not go back on our word a few months later and throw the one thing in crypto that's solid right out the window...for our own financial benefit lol!!! Way to earn their respect...and awesome job representing the crypto community and not making us look shady at all.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: leathan on July 25, 2016, 04:18:36 AM
@eth

For the record my clans will murder all cheating nodes.

@etc

Im mining now via 50.154.27.194.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: visaco on July 25, 2016, 05:36:53 AM
etc wallet for linux users?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 05:39:29 AM
etc wallet for linux users?

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-linux64-0-8-1.zip


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: beyinsi on July 25, 2016, 05:44:02 AM
etc wallet for linux users?

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-linux64-0-8-1.zip

hey, https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/ this pool not paying balance.. whats happening?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: r.o.o.t on July 25, 2016, 05:51:19 AM
Would be reasonable to try to solo mine ETC with GTX1070 ? Would you recommend any good starting point ?

on https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc) it seems like going up from the bottom 0.0012
well done devs !



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gramas on July 25, 2016, 06:14:49 AM
Can someone clarify me this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1564448.0


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 06:42:27 AM
 :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ayiphelmy on July 25, 2016, 06:44:17 AM
wf with ETC price? hakers sold eth ttrouggh etc??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Billyboy4022 on July 25, 2016, 06:46:13 AM

Nanopool is always legit. And their servers are more robust than most.




I can confirm that Nanopool work heaps better with nice hash, both the  EU  and USA




I am  seeing that these pool are stopping and crashing every 15 min on EU
stratum.coin-miners.info:8008
uk1.epool.io:8008

uk1.epool.io:8008 is the only one working ok on the USA but it dipping every 15 min  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 07:04:16 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 25, 2016, 07:07:18 AM
wf with ETC price? hakers sold eth ttrouggh etc??? ??? ??? ???

It still very high considering the situation


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Billyboy4022 on July 25, 2016, 07:09:10 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Lets find our first block old friend


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 07:17:09 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Added


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 25, 2016, 07:19:27 AM
I see that the Ethereum classic is gathering momentum. Why don't you recruit your compatriots from the other side of the fence to start pointing their miners to the original chain. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 07:24:13 AM
ETC is only getting started. We're all stacking while the price is low.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: lucky80 on July 25, 2016, 07:25:25 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

lol that is eth price in your pool mate ....


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

lol that is eth price in your pool mate ....

Ah lol yeah, let me fix that :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 07:31:35 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Lets find our first block old friend

Yes, i'm pushing some rigs in too, thanks ! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: johnp on July 25, 2016, 07:32:54 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Hi will this pool work with nicehash if so what are the settings. Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 07:35:17 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Hi will this pool work with nicehash if so what are the settings. Thanks

Not yet, i've seen nicehash has added support for a new stratum variant, i spent half weekend getting support for the old variant and i'm now restarting my work to get the new variant working.. I think in 1-2 days it'll be done.

However you can use MRR (Mining Rig Rentals) until then.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kirilvvbg on July 25, 2016, 07:36:29 AM
Let me see if I get this right:

I have lots of ethereum since months, if now I start one Ethereum client with the option YES, I can start ethereum classic and I will be able to spend the same coins on both chains?

So anyone now is able to spend their ethereums 2 times if they had ethereums before the fork?

Read the Yes/No options carefuly. Yes is fork, No is classic.

And yes, if you had ethereum before the fork you will be able to spend those coins on both chains.

How do I do this right without messing it all up?

1. I start the normal ethereum, I select the YES option

2. I install ethereum classic and I copy the keysote files to the ethereum classic keystore folder

3. I send transaction from the normal ethereum to my ETH address on polo

4. I send transaction from the ethereum classic to my ETC address on polo

5. I can sell both?

Roughly - yes. There is however a risk of a replay attack when you send the coins so make sure you understand that part. Unfortunately I can't help you much there as I don't have any forked ETHs and didn't have to worry about that.

Will all this works if my ETH are in Kraken and I try to send them to "normal (YES) ethereum" wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: johnp on July 25, 2016, 07:36:40 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Hi will this pool work with nicehash if so what are the settings. Thanks

Not yet, i've seen nicehash has added support for a new stratum variant, i spent half weekend getting support for the old variant and i'm now restarting my work to get the new variant working.. I think in 1-2 days it'll be done.

However you can use MRR (Mining Rig Rentals) until then.

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jokumat on July 25, 2016, 07:36:49 AM
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.

The economically stronger fork kills weaker fork. However honest the weaker fork can be    


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: syypro on July 25, 2016, 07:48:17 AM
mark....the etc/btc price on poloniex is 0.00094381


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ict on July 25, 2016, 07:50:56 AM
mark....the etc/btc price on poloniex is 0.00094381
just relaxx, Price of this coin never can be predicted, but im think its gonna be pump


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ferdz on July 25, 2016, 07:54:29 AM
 :-*
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 07:55:33 AM
Very strong sentiment even in https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/

Wait until ethf has to fork again, vitalik gets a court order, etc. ETC is immune and will function forever with no centralization.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 07:57:38 AM
I am really curious to see how the DAO hacker reacts with this. If he is a smart and ethical person and not a total idiot he would commit to either supporting ETC and returning part of the money or using it for funding or something. It's in his interest and we have to admit ETC has a good decentralized crypto-anarchist heart


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jokumat on July 25, 2016, 08:06:47 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Wolf Rainer on July 25, 2016, 08:08:16 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.



They love money, so it will be stupid to sell for cents if you can sell for millions.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 25, 2016, 08:10:55 AM
etc wallet for linux users?

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-linux64-0-8-1.zip

hey, https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/ this pool not paying balance.. whats happening?

Sorry about that , the wallet stop synncing last night and the payments has stop because of that and got a lot of orphaned blocks , now i have re-enabled the payments


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Billyboy4022 on July 25, 2016, 08:14:04 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Hi will this pool work with nicehash if so what are the settings. Thanks

Not yet, i've seen nicehash has added support for a new stratum variant, i spent half weekend getting support for the old variant and I'm now restarting my work to get the new variant working. I think in 1-2 days it'll be done.

However, you can use MRR (Mining Rig Rentals) until then.

Thanks

FYI  mining rental is a bit over price atm. Aug about 0.44 BTC per Gh  - I don't think you're going to make any profits


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 08:22:08 AM
https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETC24H


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nicehash on July 25, 2016, 08:24:13 AM
OK the chain is finally synched and the pool is up:

https://etc.suprnova.cc

please add to OP, thx !

Hi will this pool work with nicehash if so what are the settings. Thanks

Not yet, i've seen nicehash has added support for a new stratum variant, i spent half weekend getting support for the old variant and i'm now restarting my work to get the new variant working.. I think in 1-2 days it'll be done.

NiceHash supports several stratum variants (we're mentioning also Ethereum pools below, just for reference, we're aware that this thread is about ETC, but pool technology is the same)

0- the "early stratum" (it was used by ethpool, ethermine, coinotron, mph, nanopool)
1.1- the eth-proxy (aka dwarfpool) style (used by dwarfpool and some other pools)
1.2- the eth-proxy-sammy (used by all pools, based on open-source https://github.com/sammy007/open-ethereum-pool; for example https://ethc.coin-miners.info, http://ethc.epool.io/, etc.)
2- the standardized EthereumStratum/1.0.0: this is the preferred one, documented here (https://github.com/nicehash/Specifications/blob/master/EthereumStratum_NiceHash_v1.0.0.txt), supported by coinotron, hitchpool, etc.)

Best regards,
NiceHash team.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: freshman777 on July 25, 2016, 08:26:08 AM
How's the hash rate? What's that link to compare them from Classic's and Vitalik's?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: dagi on July 25, 2016, 08:28:15 AM
Hi all  :)
I'm on the board.

Is there any chart with etc hashrate ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: paulc010 on July 25, 2016, 08:36:30 AM
How's the hash rate? What's that link to compare them from Classic's and Vitalik's?

http://fork.ethstats.net/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: m4nki on July 25, 2016, 08:38:50 AM
if the dao hacker moves his coins (which I think he should!) then he will dump and price will go down. right?


Important dates:
First childDAO’s creation period ends: 01.07.2016–16:25:02 CEST
First date for ~2000ETH leaving the system: 16.07.2016–17:04:37 CEST (split proposal #8)
End of creation time for the DarkDAO: 14.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can split: 21.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through proposal: 28.07.2016–05:34:48 CEST
First date an attackerDAO can withdraw through split proposal: 31.08.2106 05:34:48 CEST

Good overview, thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 08:44:16 AM
How's the hash rate? What's that link to compare them from Classic's and Vitalik's?

http://fork.ethstats.net/

Not bad. With more pools coming up the hash rate shuld go up further.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ondar82 on July 25, 2016, 08:49:26 AM
Hi all  :)
I'm on the board.

Is there any chart with etc hashrate ?

look at this
http://slacknation.github.io/medium/13/13.html


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitcoinbox on July 25, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 08:51:36 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 25, 2016, 08:54:18 AM
I'm trying to send ETC to poloniex and I can't or I don't know what to do. I've sent the transaction twice already for the same amount i had in my wallet. doesn't show up on the blockchain and doesn't get any confirmations(0). What should i do?

L.E. second attempt failed as well so i restarted the wallet and now it went through. it shows 12 confrimations. shows up in polo as well. all good!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 25, 2016, 08:55:24 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

Its speculated that the reason its not completely dumped yet is because most ppl dont even know they have ETC in their accounts yet..


https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/757476468695891968


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitcoinbox on July 25, 2016, 08:57:32 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

So an attack followed by a hard fork can make a dev team way much richer? Is that a fair concept? If it is the case, I'm gone and I lost all my faith in crypto!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: fredeq on July 25, 2016, 08:59:53 AM
exactly

ocminer, please check my priv message


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 09:03:39 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 09:11:21 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 09:16:55 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 09:22:51 AM
I don't understand why you think the HF chain (Eth) is the legit chain and that his is extra money.
Eth is extra money that emerged from hard forking to bailout their asses in a banker's way. Just the notion of a team controlling which chain is legitimate is wrong.

How can you exist in crypto world without understanding these concepts? Go back to your stock market


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Majormax on July 25, 2016, 09:22:57 AM


But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

The 'thief' is not stealing, just exploiting a flawed set of rules within TheDao only....The 'second' coin is the fork created to reverse TheDao (and foil the'attack') , changing rules 'arguably' for the better. That will be accepted by the majority of course.

Within ETC, the Dao will be drained of Ether, but after that the original chain will still have value.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 09:24:19 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

You understand that the thief doesn't have access to his funds and cannot dump right? right??  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 25, 2016, 09:24:54 AM


But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

The 'thief' is not stealing, just exploiting a flawed set of rules within TheDao only....The 'second' coin is the fork created to reverse TheDao (and foil the'attack') , changing rules for the better. That will be accepted by the majority of course.

Within ETC, the Dao will be drained of Ether, but after that the original chain will still have value.



"No i didnt steal your car. I just abused the fact that u forgot to lock your garage"

Its abuse no matter how u turn and twist it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 09:28:03 AM


But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

The 'thief' is not stealing, just exploiting a flawed set of rules within TheDao only....The 'second' coin is the fork created to reverse TheDao (and foil the'attack') , changing rules for the better. That will be accepted by the majority of course.

Within ETC, the Dao will be drained of Ether, but after that the original chain will still have value.



"No i didnt steal your car. I just abused the fact that u forgot to lock your garage"

Its abuse no matter how u turn and twist it.


Have you read the DAO initial announcement about saying the code is the law? Forgetting your car keys is very different that seeing the keys on your unlocked car and saying "yes this is correct, I will leave my car like that".


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitcoinbox on July 25, 2016, 09:29:02 AM
You understand that the thief doesn't have access to his funds and cannot dump right? right??  ???

Do you mind to explain a bit more about that?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Majormax on July 25, 2016, 09:30:53 AM
I don't understand why you think the HF chain (Eth) is the legit chain and that his is extra money.
Eth is extra money that emerged from hard forking to bailout their asses in a banker's way. Just the notion of a team controlling which chain is legitimate is wrong.

How can you exist in crypto world without understanding these concepts? Go back to your stock market

The Legit chain is ultimately the one accepted by the majority, and that is probably a long term decision. Most people in Crypto dont really understand it of course, or maybe it's just levels of understanding.

The support for ETC will focus attention on the issue of control, and will be helpful to people's understanding (but it might take some time for the penny to drop)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 09:32:15 AM
You understand that the thief doesn't have access to his funds and cannot dump right? right??  ???

Do you mind to explain a bit more about that?

Just read up the thread and see the dates


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 09:34:52 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

You understand that the thief doesn't have access to his funds and cannot dump right? right??  ???

Then this coin will be worthless, if the thief doesn't have access to the coins now and still need to dump all his coins then the price will drop to 10000sats?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 25, 2016, 09:36:31 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jiR4nct.png (https://twitter.com/Pangu_exe/status/757508862710784000)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 09:38:25 AM
I don't understand why you think the HF chain (Eth) is the legit chain and that his is extra money.
Eth is extra money that emerged from hard forking to bailout their asses in a banker's way. Just the notion of a team controlling which chain is legitimate is wrong.

How can you exist in crypto world without understanding these concepts? Go back to your stock market

The Legit chain is ultimately the one accepted by the majority, and that is probably a long term decision. Most people in Crypto dont really understand it of course, or maybe it's just levels of understanding.

The support for ETC will focus attention on the issue of control, and will be helpful to people's understanding (but it might take some time for the penny to drop)

I like your input. It's like a theorhetical issue. The majority could be for example a 51% attack on bitcoin. We would call it an attack but is it really? It is just the way it was designed. Same with the theft. Was it a theft really?

So if that was a theft and a 51% is an "attack" then the hard fork majority is a result of extortion. The dev team gave no choice but a directive: Let's vote but we are pro fork and all our wallets are ready so if you don't want to create a mess and you want your money to have value and keep us happy to provide you with software (which is supposedly open source) then you know what to vote.
So about 5% of eth holders voted (which in democracies would null the voting process) and some whales had 25% stake of that vote (apparently from the foundation).

Sorry about ranting all over the thread but I really have strong feelings over this.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 25, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Try to rent some rig witch pool and miner i rent?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Majormax on July 25, 2016, 09:50:55 AM

So if that was a theft and a 51% is an "attack" then the hard fork majority is a result of extortion. The dev team gave no choice but a directive: Let's vote but we are pro fork and all our wallets are ready so if you don't want to create a mess and you want your money to have value and keep us happy to provide you with software (which is supposedly open source) then you know what to vote.
So about 5% of eth holders voted (which in democracies would null the voting process) and some whales had 25% stake of that vote (apparently from the foundation).

 

All fair...These points need airing.

The reason ETH will probably win out over ETC is the same as one of the obstacles to mass adoption of Crypto. Most laypersons (general population) want to be assured against loss (including from their own stupidity) and have become accustomed to Govt looking after them.  They need a trusted team of 'leaders' to advise them . Open Source works not because the majority can read and vet the code, but because they trust a minority to oversee it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 25, 2016, 10:05:54 AM
price is skydiving.  ???
what do you guys think about etc?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: AKKP on July 25, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Here is my opinion

The problem was DAO because it has been hacked and now it is a problem of Ethereum because there was a fork ...
DAO is the problem and the price of DAO is still nothing! DAO must disappear from the market!!!
Only the old ETH chain is the only true and real chain!!!
Best regards


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kirilvvbg on July 25, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
Hm, no one is answering my question about ETH in exchanges, in my case Kraken, but isn't it possible that the exchange(s) can dump my ETH prior the fork (converted into ETC) at the Polo exchange?
I am not that good in crypto, but I found out some strange (at least for me) transactions:
1. My ETH Kraken address according to etherchain.org has only the amount I mined/deposited after the HF;
2. I seems to have 1 (one) transaction 6 days ago (19.07) - to the following address: 0x53d284357ec70cE289D6D64134DfAc8E511c8a3D. The amount is 2144.0360455659216 Ether. For sure I did not have so much ETH at that time. I suppose it is the overall amount of ETH I have deposited in my Kraken account.
3. As you can see, the "recepient" address is empty - with one big transaction (8335689 Ether) to 0x341e790174e3A4D35b65fdC067B6b5634A61caEA. This has do something with fork, but as I said, I am not that good in crypto, I am just an ordinary miner.
4. This second address is empty too. But the balance is difficult the "read and understand", at least for me. Anyway some coins are heading to Poloniex in the last hour.

So, is this all normal?
Beside other things, at the moment my ETH address in etherchain.org shows 50ETH when Kraken shows 325?! And since these 50ETH are from after HF, where are my rest 275ETH?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: snowboard789 on July 25, 2016, 10:22:19 AM
I also wrote this on the subject:

https://medium.com/@arisAlexis/painfully-strict-logic-d0d1cd0a0a27#.7uhws8d6x


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 25, 2016, 10:49:37 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

Can you explain the math behind your logic here? I'm curious, how does the "thief" now own 80% of ETC?



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ecawyna on July 25, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
So it's scam or not?
Or this is the original plan of the attacker?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 25, 2016, 11:09:38 AM
Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 25, 2016, 11:12:27 AM
Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hiddensphinx on July 25, 2016, 11:16:49 AM
Quick question: Is there a way to mine ETC without downloading Vitalium blockchain?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: appbox on July 25, 2016, 11:18:33 AM


ETC QQ Group: 568474359




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
The hashrate still rising?
Anyone have idea what cause this dump?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 25, 2016, 11:23:26 AM
What dump? the price has been holding like a champ whatever has been thrown at it. don't you see it? it's beautiful!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 25, 2016, 11:23:54 AM
Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

Yes thats true , but think about it for each transaction i pay fee and for the second thing what is your address that you used to mine on my pool ??


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 11:37:09 AM
ETC price rock solid! Get in while you can and you'll be an ethereum whale while the forked shitcoin dies.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

Can you explain the math behind your logic here? I'm curious, how does the "thief" now own 80% of ETC?



So much misinformation out there... He probably wanted to say 80% of the DAO ETH, not all the ETH (or now ETC) that exists.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 11:37:56 AM


ETC QQ Group: 568474359




Added


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 11:47:51 AM
This is a really good idea for DAO holders that want to go with ETC: https://steemit.com/ethereum/@logical/miscalculations-about-the-endgame-of-the-ethereum-fork-it-ain-t-over-til-it-s-over

Dump the forked ETH and buy cheap ETC. Genious  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 25, 2016, 11:55:52 AM
same thing happened to me. mined all evening and last night and i got squat

Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

Yes thats true , but think about it for each transaction i pay fee and for the second thing what is your address that you used to mine on my pool ??


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 12:01:38 PM
Nanopool is giving me much less shares than other pools.
Someone else has the same "effect"?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 25, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
same thing happened to me. mined all evening and last night and i got squat

Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

Yes thats true , but think about it for each transaction i pay fee and for the second thing what is your address that you used to mine on my pool ??


Last night my wallet got out of sync and mined stale blocks, i was sleeping while the problem come up, when I woke up i restarted the wallet , right now i see the wallet is stable, i will keep an eye on it all the day so this problem wont happen again


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: denverb on July 25, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

You may have something wrong with your config. All of the ETC I have mined on coin-miners are in my wallet.
Been on there for about 18 hours now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 25, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
can't believe my effing luck... mined free all night


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 25, 2016, 12:14:59 PM
For the next 24 h the fee on Coin Miners pool will be 0% due to the last night problem.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ondar82 on July 25, 2016, 12:15:46 PM
etc is on cryptowat.ch
https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/etcbtc/3m
 :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 25, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
too late, moved to other pool and sticking to it! we're talking 10-12hours of no profits here.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 12:18:55 PM
Volume is incredible! 13,000,000 ETC 13,000 BTC

Seems like they dumped all they could and the smart ones bought ETC.

Keep it up, more exchanges coming soon! Poloniex supported us and did extremely well.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 12:28:28 PM
Ill buy more now. Thats a cheap price


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: flowerpots on July 25, 2016, 12:29:15 PM
Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

Can you explain the math behind your logic here? I'm curious, how does the "thief" now own 80% of ETC?



So much misinformation out there... He probably wanted to say 80% of the DAO ETH, not all the ETH (or now ETC) that exists.

The calculations are totally wrong. The "thief" (I would not call him a thief btw) had around 3.500.000 Ether before the hard fork. So now he has 3.5000.000 ETC. So around 3.500 BTC. Still around $2.275.000. Or maybe he sold it already. Can anyone see if there's activity from  the "thiefs" addresses?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: YIz on July 25, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
Anyone knows why the price is so low? did he dump the DAO coins yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
too late, moved to other pool and sticking to it! we're talking 10-12hours of no profits here.

Hi there, which pool did you choose?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Anyone knows why the price is so low? did he dump the DAO coins yet?
Just wait a little more. Prob some people Discover ur new coins in wallet and still selling it. Just hold ur btc and buy more when it down


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 12:41:26 PM
Quick question: Is there a way to mine ETC without downloading Vitalium blockchain?

All you need for mining is a pool and an address (unless you want solo but that's another story). You can generate an address with any Ethereum tools - even e.g. MyEtherWallet if you trust it - but to spend the coins you will need to broadcast the TX to the ETC chain. I don't know if there is an easy way to do it without installing and syncing your own client. Technically it should be possible though.

Another option is to use an exchange address but some posters earlier in this thread didn't like this suggestion.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 12:50:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3eh2X58.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Videodrome on July 25, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Some ETH bag holder are trying to push down the price, but they do not know they are selling off to new investors who will cut them out soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 01:03:34 PM
I have to admit pool results overnight are pretty disappointing.  I will let my miners keep cranking for a full 24hrs and if the results don't improve then I will have to move back over to the HF coin... :(  If there is a pool that is getting decent results please do share.  So far it isn't panning out so well. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 25, 2016, 01:05:38 PM
I have to admit pool results overnight are pretty disappointing.  I will let my miners keep cranking for a full 24hrs and if the results don't improve then I will have to move back over to the HF coin... :(  If there is a pool that is getting decent results please do share.  So far it isn't panning out so well. 

I would trust OCminers pool.
The other pools mentioned here has been accused of all kinds of stuff since the start of this thread.

https://etc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 25, 2016, 01:07:29 PM
For the next 24 h the fee on Coin Miners pool will be 0% due to the last night problem.

Thanks for the gesture but i wont waste another nights hash on nothing , as everyone is reporting similar results but your pool was finding blocks at roughly 2-3 a minute i guess you have a shit load of ETC right now .. nice


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: r.o.o.t on July 25, 2016, 01:14:06 PM
I jumped in too soon probably :( https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc) is down 25% to 0.00097, but the volume is impressive @ 15300 BTC !!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: remistevens on July 25, 2016, 01:14:28 PM
This is the software people were running last week, DAO theft and all, and it was worth over a billion. Nothing changed except who is using it. ETC is the new name for what we were calling ETH last week.

All that actually happened here was that a new fork was created based on an earlier state of the ledger and a significant group that includes main devs, miners and investors left to follow that new creation. They were also backed by strong voting majority, but in a very low turnout vote.

What we are seeing is price discovery for ethereum without its previous big investors or devs. They brought ETH over 1 billion in the first place...BUT...the spite money will be hard to predict. There are a lot of rich BTC and other alt coin supporters who are in competition and would like to see the ETH devs and their investors fail.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 01:20:19 PM
Ethf believed they can dump is to 0. They're dead wrong. ETC is just getting started. We're all stacking.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 25, 2016, 01:24:55 PM
shouldn't there have been a lot of orphans if that happened?

For the next 24 h the fee on Coin Miners pool will be 0% due to the last night problem.

Thanks for the gesture but i wont waste another nights hash on nothing , as everyone is reporting similar results but your pool was finding blocks at roughly 2-3 a minute i guess you have a shit load of ETC right now .. nice


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 01:27:42 PM
I have to admit pool results overnight are pretty disappointing.  I will let my miners keep cranking for a full 24hrs and if the results don't improve then I will have to move back over to the HF coin... :(  If there is a pool that is getting decent results please do share.  So far it isn't panning out so well. 

I would trust OCminers pool.
The other pools mentioned here has been accused of all kinds of stuff since the start of this thread.

https://etc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

Thanks mate, I appreciate.

I'm setting fee to 0% fee now, finally we got our first block  :)

I'm integrating claymore's stratum protocol along with nicehash currently, will be ready soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 01:31:44 PM
I have to admit pool results overnight are pretty disappointing.  I will let my miners keep cranking for a full 24hrs and if the results don't improve then I will have to move back over to the HF coin... :(  If there is a pool that is getting decent results please do share.  So far it isn't panning out so well. 

I would trust OCminers pool.
The other pools mentioned here has been accused of all kinds of stuff since the start of this thread.

https://etc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

Thanks mate, I appreciate.

I'm setting fee to 0% fee now, finally we got our first block  :)

I'm integrating claymore's stratum protocol along with nicehash currently, will be ready soon.

Yes, please let us know when the stratum is ready so we can use Claymore's miner.  Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hiddensphinx on July 25, 2016, 01:46:57 PM
I'm setting fee to 0% fee now, finally we got our first block  :)

Do we need to download the ETC blockchain in order or mine on your pool ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bobmarley650 on July 25, 2016, 01:56:04 PM
Any price prediciton?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: mitache365 on July 25, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
Any price prediciton?
0.005


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Tmdz on July 25, 2016, 02:01:36 PM

There is no prediction only speculation


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: raphma on July 25, 2016, 02:03:20 PM
This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

are you sure?.. i have a slow miner running in a vps using minergate, and every payment it sends to my poloniex wallet is only available when reaches 1 eth.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 25, 2016, 02:03:46 PM
polo should burn all old eth coins  so less supply :) moon :D :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Game_Seller on July 25, 2016, 02:19:18 PM
Lower price goes less miners if you want to have a shot at success keep this in mind.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
It's really taking a dive atm


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: vdramaline on July 25, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Please forgive my ignorance.

This is the chain where the hacker has control of millions of etc correct?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hiddensphinx on July 25, 2016, 02:25:11 PM
Please forgive my ignorance.

This is the chain where the hacker has control of millions of etc correct?

yes it sure is  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: samspaces on July 25, 2016, 02:25:51 PM
Please forgive my ignorance.

This is the chain where the hacker has control of millions of etc correct?

I believe after July 27th, yes.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
I'm setting fee to 0% fee now, finally we got our first block  :)

Do we need to download the ETC blockchain in order or mine on your pool ?

No, just point ethminer to the pool like it is described in the header of the pool


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 02:28:26 PM
ocminer, any eta when Suprnova will support stratum proxy?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 02:31:01 PM
ocminer, any eta when Suprnova will support stratum proxy?

Working on it atm, there are several different flavours, which miner would you like to use ? Claymore ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
claymore or ethminer, doesn't matter much to me, both ok


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Oldeth on July 25, 2016, 02:34:31 PM
ocminer, any eta when Suprnova will support stratum proxy?

Working on it atm, there are several different flavours, which miner would you like to use ? Claymore ?

Claymore dual miner would go down a treat Oc ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 02:35:58 PM
ocminer, any eta when Suprnova will support stratum proxy?

Working on it atm, there are several different flavours, which miner would you like to use ? Claymore ?

Claymore please  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: rahmad2nd on July 25, 2016, 02:36:24 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: vdramaline on July 25, 2016, 02:36:24 PM
Please forgive my ignorance.

This is the chain where the hacker has control of millions of etc correct?

I believe after July 27th, yes.

thank you so that is when i buy in after he has finished his dumping. must admit what you are doing here is something i back. well done


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: liotmaan on July 25, 2016, 02:38:25 PM
Buying back into ETC after the huge dump on 27th is going to be the smartest thing anyone can do right now. I started mining ETC again and thats what you should all be doing.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
still ddos attacks to pools?  >:(


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TrueAnon on July 25, 2016, 02:45:53 PM
LOL how will realworld investors/stakeholders/business and even everyday users take crypto and alt coin seriously with ETH/ETC actions and craziness happening like this?!?!  It's like BTC stupid annoying lil bother that keeps fucking things up always for the family!  Nobody will take seriously now!!  LMAO.  I can see poloniex taking a big hit too.

LTC is just the retarded lil brother now for BTC haha.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptomark23 on July 25, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Buying back into ETC after the huge dump on 27th is going to be the smartest thing anyone can do right now. I started mining ETC again and thats what you should all be doing.
True i just bought a cheap bunch. Yum ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 02:51:08 PM
U think etc gonna be afected directly when hack sell or swap ur dao token?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: lokojones on July 25, 2016, 02:54:12 PM
who with the right mind could even concider to buy those coin, unless you are here for a short gain. This chain will be not supported by anyone serious...

but congrants to the hacker, as he achived alot with his propaganda.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 02:57:51 PM
This is the software people were running last week, DAO theft and all, and it was worth over a billion. Nothing changed except who is using it. ETC is the new name for what we were calling ETH last week.

All that actually happened here was that a new fork was created based on an earlier state of the ledger and a significant group that includes main devs, miners and investors left to follow that new creation. They were also backed by strong voting majority, but in a very low turnout vote.

What we are seeing is price discovery for ethereum without its previous big investors or devs. They brought ETH over 1 billion in the first place...BUT...the spite money will be hard to predict. There are a lot of rich BTC and other alt coin supporters who are in competition and would like to see the ETH devs and their investors fail.

Nice summary although I don't quite agree with the conspiracy part. ETH devs and investors dug their hole entirely on their own and I doubt someone hates them so much that they would spend millions of dollars to make it fail. Some opportunist pump-n-dumpers might fuel the mayhem but I'm quite certain ETHers are fully capable to self-destruct if they try hard enough.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 03:03:10 PM
Hodl, ethf will continue to fork, but we have purity

https://i.imgur.com/3eh2X58.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 25, 2016, 03:04:43 PM
another eth-DAO scam...

Hong Coin, a post-DAO Organization on Blockchain


https://medium.com/@hongcoin/hong-coin-a-post-dao-organization-on-blockchain-cf88605cede5#.nz7i5e56j


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 03:08:03 PM
another eth-DAO scam...

Hong Coin, a post-DAO Organization on Blockchain


https://medium.com/@hongcoin/hong-coin-a-post-dao-organization-on-blockchain-cf88605cede5#.nz7i5e56j

Yup and they'll fork again to bail out idiot investors

Incredible opportunity to get into the immutable chain users and devs will flock to


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 03:09:48 PM
What is the best move now? Open long or short in etc?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 25, 2016, 03:19:33 PM
True story about a 'fake' consensus:


http://i.imgur.com/PxuC8Eh.png (https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/757121339073306624)


They said....


http://i.imgur.com/sfwtPm9.png (https://twitter.com/MrChrisEllis/status/757293299426271232)

https://medium.com/@zsfelfoldi/a-tale-of-two-chains-3f6d58a9df4a#.i1bqxthn7


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitfish on July 25, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
Volume is incredible! 13,000,000 ETC 13,000 BTC

Seems like they dumped all they could and the smart ones bought ETC.

Keep it up, more exchanges coming soon! Poloniex supported us and did extremely well.

Whether those buying ETC were "the smart ones" will be seen in the future.
There are still a hand full of ETC eventually soon owned by the hacker waiting to dilute ETC value.

Polo didn't "support" ETC. Polo has been making a lot of commissions on trading ETC.
BTW: Polo's interests are not congruent with folks trading at Polo. ;)  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 25, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
Tinderbox: Ethereum Classic, Insider Trading, and Social Justice


http://forklog.net/tinderbox-ethereum-classic-insider-trading-and-social-justice/






Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: colombuszka on July 25, 2016, 03:36:22 PM
What is your realopinion: is there any future for etc with any chance of 51% attack and a lot of ddos?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 25, 2016, 03:38:00 PM
What is your realopinion: is there any future for etc with any chance of 51% attack and a lot of ddos?

That's just fud


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 25, 2016, 03:39:39 PM
@ocminer

yr pool dont axept my addr, why?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 03:56:33 PM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Would it be possible to get the stats page calculator updated on etc.nanopool.org?  Looks like it is estimating ETC earned based on the old ETH numbers.  This would be very helpful when tracking what is going on. Thanks.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 04:04:04 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: samspaces on July 25, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: niiiro on July 25, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Freefall!!!  :( :( :(


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 25, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
ETC at 73k sat. wot?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Yes, in fact everybody has free coins. so it is all free money for ETH holders. In fact terrible that this is even allowed, but in crypto everything is possible.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
I think we will have to be patient for all the "free ETC" to be cashed out, and then see where we stand.  It is probably a good time to keep adding to your stash at these prices.  Once they figure out that they cannot kill ETC then the real battle begins... It is a civil war for sure... Got my musket, sword, and bayonet ready to rumble...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 25, 2016, 04:25:22 PM
I think we will have to be patient for all the "free ETC" to be cashed out, and then see where we stand.  It is probably a good time to keep adding to your stash at these prices.  Once they figure out that they cannot kill ETC then the real battle begins... It is a civil war for sure... Got my musket, sword, and bayonet ready to rumble...

So how many ETC do you have in your stash?  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Marvell1 on July 25, 2016, 04:26:16 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Yes, in fact everybody has free coins. so it is all free money for ETH holders. In fact terrible that this is even allowed, but in crypto everything is possible.

how do you get the free ETC coins ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 04:26:33 PM
I think we will have to be patient for all the "free ETC" to be cashed out, and then see where we stand.  It is probably a good time to keep adding to your stash at these prices.  Once they figure out that they cannot kill ETC then the real battle begins... It is a civil war for sure... Got my musket, sword, and bayonet ready to rumble...

ETC will never be accepted anywhere... Just a premine coin based on ETC holders + the thief that can dump his coin. Most likely ETC is created by the thief himself.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Marvell1 on July 25, 2016, 04:27:52 PM
Oh nm i logged into polo and saw my ETC tokens , how about the DAO tokens in classic when will we get those ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 04:31:19 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Yes, in fact everybody has free coins. so it is all free money for ETH holders. In fact terrible that this is even allowed, but in crypto everything is possible.

how do you get the free ETC coins ?

I could be wrong, but I believe anyone who was holding ETH on Polo at the time of the ETC rollout received equivalent in ETC to what they held in ETH.  So if you were/are holding ETH on Polo, go look at your balances and you should see that you were given an allotment of ETC to match what you had in ETH.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Marvell1 on July 25, 2016, 04:34:26 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Yes, in fact everybody has free coins. so it is all free money for ETH holders. In fact terrible that this is even allowed, but in crypto everything is possible.

how do you get the free ETC coins ?

I could be wrong, but I believe anyone who was holding ETH on Polo at the time of the ETC rollout received equivalent in ETC to what they held in ETH.  So if you were/are holding ETH on Polo, go look at your balances and you should see that you were given an allotment of ETC to match what you had in ETH.

yeah i got mine but most of my Eth holdings are in DAO tokens there should be equvialent of of those tokens on ETC as well right ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 04:36:19 PM
I think we will have to be patient for all the "free ETC" to be cashed out, and then see where we stand.  It is probably a good time to keep adding to your stash at these prices.  Once they figure out that they cannot kill ETC then the real battle begins... It is a civil war for sure... Got my musket, sword, and bayonet ready to rumble...

ETC will never be accepted anywhere... Just a premine coin based on ETC holders + the thief that can dump his coin. Most likely ETC is created by the thief himself.

You calling Vitalik a "thief"?   :o


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 04:39:00 PM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Yes, in fact everybody has free coins. so it is all free money for ETH holders. In fact terrible that this is even allowed, but in crypto everything is possible.

how do you get the free ETC coins ?


I could be wrong, but I believe anyone who was holding ETH on Polo at the time of the ETC rollout received equivalent in ETC to what they held in ETH.  So if you were/are holding ETH on Polo, go look at your balances and you should see that you were given an allotment of ETC to match what you had in ETH.

yeah i got mine but most of my Eth holdings are in DAO tokens there should be equvialent of of those tokens on ETC as well right ?

I don't know any of the details of the DAO.  I haven't heard anything about trying to get the DAO back as part of the ETC introduction.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 25, 2016, 04:42:21 PM
Added another pull request:

 -  https://github.com/ethereumclassic/ethereumclassic.github.io/pull/5

This has been merged:

 - https://github.com/ethereumclassic/ethereumclassic.github.io/pull/4


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Alao on July 25, 2016, 04:43:03 PM
I think we will have to be patient for all the "free ETC" to be cashed out, and then see where we stand.  It is probably a good time to keep adding to your stash at these prices.  Once they figure out that they cannot kill ETC then the real battle begins... It is a civil war for sure... Got my musket, sword, and bayonet ready to rumble...

ETC will never be accepted anywhere... Just a premine coin based on ETC holders + the thief that can dump his coin. Most likely ETC is created by the thief himself.

I read somewhere that the "theif" will reward miners that process transactions on the new chain. If he gives back al of what he stole to miners then ETH will have a really big problem.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 25, 2016, 05:02:56 PM
I've never mined or supported ETH. I saw it for the centralized pre-mined bank supported system it is right off the bat, but I have now sparked up a ETC miner. If Eth survives (long run as in decades) It will be the ETC chain. I believe the ETH holders know this and will migrate slowly to the ETC chain. The smart ones will do that slowly to mitigate their losses. There is too much cap for a quick move to happen.

Show some love guys. :)

I am in for the long game as anyone can see by my post history.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Gaglam on July 25, 2016, 05:03:38 PM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Would it be possible to get the stats page calculator updated on etc.nanopool.org?  Looks like it is estimating ETC earned based on the old ETH numbers.  This would be very helpful when tracking what is going on. Thanks.



You're right I think  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: husky1971 on July 25, 2016, 05:17:42 PM
Joke ??
Transfer youre ETH to exchange. computer 1 after block blok. 1920000 transfer to your wallet own choice wallet

Re-scan the blocks before block 1920000 Computer 2 choice no -fork transfer your ETC to exchange. after before block1920000
buy eth.  transfer to your wallet own choice wallet

So ETH scam ??


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 05:28:18 PM
Nanopool opened ETC pool.
Now you can mine Ethereum Classic with us!

http://etc.nanopool.org


Would it be possible to get the stats page calculator updated on etc.nanopool.org?  Looks like it is estimating ETC earned based on the old ETH numbers.  This would be very helpful when tracking what is going on. Thanks.



You're right I think  ;D

Looks like I just needed to wait for the hash rate to be normalized.  It looks like it is still climbing so it just takes a while.   ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 05:29:30 PM
Joke ??
Transfer youre ETH to exchange. computer 1 after block blok. 1920000 transfer to your wallet own choice wallet

Re-scan the blocks before block 1920000 Computer 2 choice no -fork transfer your ETC to exchange. after before block1920000
buy eth.  transfer to your wallet own choice wallet

So ETH scam ??

Not sure what you're trying to say here but if it's some sort of  double spend attempt - won't work.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 25, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
you get only the ETH before block 1920000 transfered into ETH and ETC, that is the problem why etc dumps so hard


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 25, 2016, 05:47:49 PM
Unbelievable... i bought at 66k, a few coins, sold with a $ profit and now it is almost 50% higher, i should have made a nice Monday workday day profit.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ayiphelmy on July 25, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
you get only the ETH before block 1920000 transfered into ETH and ETC, that is the problem why etc dumps so hard
i got 19 etc from nowhere... idk id this is from stake or whatt?? before i got 8 etc and another 19 now


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 25, 2016, 05:57:29 PM
i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Not really. 10 million have been traded in the first day alone. The market can absorb it. If I had to guess, I'd say 40-50k sats is the sweet spot. This thing is easily worth more than WAVES in marketcap.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 05:58:05 PM
you get only the ETH before block 1920000 transfered into ETH and ETC, that is the problem why etc dumps so hard
i got 19 etc from nowhere... idk id this is from stake or whatt?? before i got 8 etc and another 19 now

ETC does not stake.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 06:13:48 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/17xqqm.jpg

scnr :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Crpto4$ on July 25, 2016, 06:16:35 PM
They are saying that ETC will be like Litecoin.

ETC is the BTC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 06:17:41 PM
So etc trolls....heres when the fun begins...

How long will you bag hold before you dump your dying shitcoin? ( no pressure on us to sell as we got em free  :P, only those that paid are under pressure )
Those mining etc...how long will you mine an unprofitable coin...
This is like stabbing yourselfs and slowly killing yourself to prove a point...how long can you last lol
Right now there is no profit in mining etc...the race is on..either you guys buy up or your finished....FACT


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: BETAWI on July 25, 2016, 06:18:39 PM
By the way...how many total coins supply of Etherum Classic?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 06:20:19 PM
By the way...how many total coins supply of Etherum Classic?
80mill+ vast majority are held by ETH holders, they got them all for free


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:25:17 PM
So etc trolls....heres when the fun begins...

How long will you bag hold before you dump your dying shitcoin? ( no pressure on us to sell as we got em free  :P, only those that paid are under pressure )
Those mining etc...how long will you mine an unprofitable coin...
This is like stabbing yourselfs and slowly killing yourself to prove a point...how long can you last lol
Right now there is no profit in mining etc...the race is on..either you guys buy up or your finished....FACT

Actually, you get the same return per MH/s in $ value.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 06:26:02 PM
So etc trolls....heres when the fun begins...

How long will you bag hold before you dump your dying shitcoin? ( no pressure on us to sell as we got em free  :P, only those that paid are under pressure )
Those mining etc...how long will you mine an unprofitable coin...
This is like stabbing yourselfs and slowly killing yourself to prove a point...how long can you last lol
Right now there is no profit in mining etc...the race is on..either you guys buy up or your finished....FACT

Actually, you get the same return per MH/s in $ value.


are you mining $ or etc  ? lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:27:32 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dapps first worked and were developed on ETC (back then it was still just ETH). They were adapted to work on (the current) ETH....FACT

Reverting back is an easy process.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 06:27:59 PM
So etc trolls....heres when the fun begins...

How long will you bag hold before you dump your dying shitcoin? ( no pressure on us to sell as we got em free  :P, only those that paid are under pressure )
Those mining etc...how long will you mine an unprofitable coin...
This is like stabbing yourselfs and slowly killing yourself to prove a point...how long can you last lol
Right now there is no profit in mining etc...the race is on..either you guys buy up or your finished....FACT

Actually, you get the same return per MH/s in $ value.


are you mining $ or etc  ? lol


ETC = ETH ... Dapps, contracts, rewards etc... all works... on both chains...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:29:40 PM
So etc trolls....heres when the fun begins...

How long will you bag hold before you dump your dying shitcoin? ( no pressure on us to sell as we got em free  :P, only those that paid are under pressure )
Those mining etc...how long will you mine an unprofitable coin...
This is like stabbing yourselfs and slowly killing yourself to prove a point...how long can you last lol
Right now there is no profit in mining etc...the race is on..either you guys buy up or your finished....FACT

Actually, you get the same return per MH/s in $ value.


are you mining $ or etc  ? lol

If you have to pay your electricity at the end of the month you usually look at the $ value.

Every mining profitability calculator is based on the $ or BTC value.

I was just trying to debunk your claim that it is an unprofitable coin. At the moment the profitability is actually slightly higher than mining ETH.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 25, 2016, 06:29:49 PM
HOLY shit! It's over 90 outside and was 75 with full AC but after 3 hours of GPU's cranking it's 84 and rising! gonna have to suspend operations until this heat passes. Stupid time for a heatwave! Looks like I'm gonna miss low diff again. Doesn't the earth know the world revolves around crypto? :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ph4nt0m on July 25, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cohnhead on July 25, 2016, 06:31:26 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT
is it the wont work or don't work.
I think its been established forks are planned for etc...but I guess since they are to be planned and they don't roll back anything they are ok.
still wondering how people think etc can sustain itself.
price seems to be going down so without miner support how long can die hards subsidize network? 1 month ....3 months ...6 months... a year


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jdc4429 on July 25, 2016, 06:32:09 PM
Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.


Clearly states on Poloniex when you CLICK Deposit:

The minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC. Smaller deposits will be credited once they total this amount.

Got it. Show me the Deposit Address.

Now I have sent smaller amounts to have them rejected so I believe it should be set to 1 as I don't believe the second part holds true.
My deposits were with ETH but don't see that anything would have changed for ETC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 06:32:18 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:35:32 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

Well if the hash rate of ETC surpasses ETH at some point, they will probably have to re-evaluate that statement :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: husky1971 on July 25, 2016, 06:36:31 PM
Joke ??
Transfer youre ETH to exchange. computer 1 after block blok. 1920000 transfer to your wallet own choice wallet

Re-scan the blocks before block 1920000 Computer 2 choice no -fork transfer your ETC to exchange. after before block1920000
buy eth.  transfer to your wallet own choice wallet

So ETH scam ??

Not sure what you're trying to say here but if it's some sort of  double spend attempt - won't work.

the answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 06:36:49 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

If it's open source - which should be the only thing to accept - it's easily deployable on the un-censored chain, no matter what someone else (tries) to decide - and this is how crypto should be !


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 25, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


You can verify the height. ETH chain is higher...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Crpto4$ on July 25, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Bitfinex to list Ethereum Classic soon


https://steemit.com/ethereum/@bitek/bitfinex-to-list-ethereum-classic-soon (https://steemit.com/ethereum/@bitek/bitfinex-to-list-ethereum-classic-soon)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptomark23 on July 25, 2016, 06:44:23 PM
What happens if I buy ETH on some other exchange and just deposit to Poloniex? Will I get free ETC too?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:47:26 PM
What happens if I buy ETH on some other exchange and just deposit to Poloniex? Will I get free ETC too?

No. They had to be bought before the fork.

And its not free


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:51:07 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

Well if the hash rate of ETC surpasses ETH at some point, they will probably have to re-evaluate that statement :)
lol after hearing that , i think its you that needs your meds m8  :P

Well thats just hypothetical.  That is why i used "if" and "at some point".


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptomark23 on July 25, 2016, 06:52:33 PM
What happens if I buy ETH on some other exchange and just deposit to Poloniex? Will I get free ETC too?

No. They had to be bought before the fork.

And its not free

But what If i buy some ETH which was not used to move ETC yet? (Like on some forgoten exchange)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
What happens if I buy ETH on some other exchange and just deposit to Poloniex? Will I get free ETC too?

No. They had to be bought before the fork.

And its not free

But what If i buy some ETH which was not used to move ETC yet? (Like on some forgoten exchange)

Once you move it the ETC will stay at the address you moved it from.

You would have to get a private key that had ETH on it before the fork to have both on that address now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ph4nt0m on July 25, 2016, 06:59:18 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

Pre-fork smart contracts exist on both chains even if their devs support only one. If they have vulnerabilities by design, that's their problem. If they don't care to have their ETC in these contracts protected, why anyone else should?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 06:59:51 PM
What happens if I buy ETH on some other exchange and just deposit to Poloniex? Will I get free ETC too?

No. They had to be bought before the fork.

And its not free

But what If i buy some ETH which was not used to move ETC yet? (Like on some forgoten exchange)

look m8, if you want etc so bad...BUY IT, theres plenty for sale  :P

etc rules

buy buy bye buy lol



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 07:19:50 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

If it's open source - which should be the only thing to accept - it's easily deployable on the un-censored chain, no matter what someone else (tries) to decide - and this is how crypto should be !
cheers,
ok if etc does fork in future will that mean my etc will split into 2coins aswell...and i get a free balance again?



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: mitache365 on July 25, 2016, 07:23:00 PM
coinbase? bitfinex? whats going on?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 25, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

If it's open source - which should be the only thing to accept - it's easily deployable on the un-censored chain, no matter what someone else (tries) to decide - and this is how crypto should be !
cheers,
ok if etc does fork in future will that mean my etc will split into 2coins aswell...and i get a free balance again?



Not necessarily, it depends on when the fork occurs. If you spend your ETC/ETH before a fork happens, of course you'll be having balance on both chains. If you've already spend your coins, there won't be any on either fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 25, 2016, 07:26:13 PM
This coin could actually have a long term future if when ETH moves to PoS it remains PoW.  The ETH mining pools might jump right over.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 07:27:22 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

If it's open source - which should be the only thing to accept - it's easily deployable on the un-censored chain, no matter what someone else (tries) to decide - and this is how crypto should be !
cheers,
ok if etc does fork in future will that mean my etc will split into 2coins aswell...and i get a free balance again?



If its a hard fork and the exchange where you hold the coin adds the forked coin to the exchange...then yes.

But I think the idea of ETC is not to make controversial forks like ETH did. Only necessary forks that would be necessary to ensure the stability of the network (and not help bail out services running on top of the network and have nothing to do with the protocol itself).


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 07:27:34 PM
Yes, if ETC were to stay POW that would rattle some cages and get a lot of attention.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 25, 2016, 07:32:02 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


You can verify the height. ETH chain is higher...


cloned go-ethereum from github.com/ethereumproject
Compiled and start syncing

info from eth.syncing is:

{
  currentBlock: 197,
  highestBlock: 1951540,
  knownStates: 223170,
  pulledStates: 113620,
  startingBlock: 0
}

hmmm highest Bloch: 1941540, is this ETC or ETH, not sure because ETCPool shows 1947306 as highest block....
is there a setting to sync to ETC blockchain ?



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Dapps dont work on etc....etc must fork....FACT

Dude, get your meds right. They will work just fine when their devs add them to this chain. Give'em some time to sort out their stuff.

@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

If it's open source - which should be the only thing to accept - it's easily deployable on the un-censored chain, no matter what someone else (tries) to decide - and this is how crypto should be !
cheers,
ok if etc does fork in future will that mean my etc will split into 2coins aswell...and i get a free balance again?



Not necessarily, it depends on when the fork occurs. If you spend your ETC/ETH before a fork happens, of course you'll be having balance on both chains. If you've already spend your coins, there won't be any on either fork.
kl cheers again, i dont spend much, prefer to accumulate.
So i should get etc + the new etchf ,as  long as it  survives and someone helps deploy the new code ( with some other trusted sources to verify it )to prevent replay attacks on dapps


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 25, 2016, 07:35:03 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


You can verify the height. ETH chain is higher...


cloned go-ethereum from github.com/ethereumproject
Compiled and start syncing

info from eth.syncing is:

{
  currentBlock: 197,
  highestBlock: 1951540,
  knownStates: 223170,
  pulledStates: 113620,
  startingBlock: 0
}

hmmm highest Bloch: 1941540, is this ETC or ETH, not sure because ETCPool shows 1947306 as highest block....
is there a setting to sync to ETC blockchain ?

You're on ETH.

Use this to sync to ETC:

Code:
geth --oppose-dao-fork


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 25, 2016, 07:36:15 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


You can verify the height. ETH chain is higher...


cloned go-ethereum from github.com/ethereumproject
Compiled and start syncing

info from eth.syncing is:

{
  currentBlock: 197,
  highestBlock: 1951540,
  knownStates: 223170,
  pulledStates: 113620,
  startingBlock: 0
}

hmmm highest Bloch: 1941540, is this ETC or ETH, not sure because ETCPool shows 1947306 as highest block....
is there a setting to sync to ETC blockchain ?



At the moment:

ETC: 1947323

ETH: 1951583

So you are on ETH


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: olib123 on July 25, 2016, 07:40:25 PM
Can i solo mine this coin ?  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bigs21024 on July 25, 2016, 07:41:29 PM
glad i dumped mine last night haha


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 07:44:14 PM
afaik most of the support for etc is from myself and bitpoop...under 0.0003.... :o


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 25, 2016, 07:55:52 PM
Is dificulity not changed,then it will be perpetummobile.Price even can be 1 etc=1 BTC but i dont now i have hole my life to wait to long.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 25, 2016, 08:00:46 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


You can verify the height. ETH chain is higher...


cloned go-ethereum from github.com/ethereumproject
Compiled and start syncing

info from eth.syncing is:

{
  currentBlock: 197,
  highestBlock: 1951540,
  knownStates: 223170,
  pulledStates: 113620,
  startingBlock: 0
}

hmmm highest Bloch: 1941540, is this ETC or ETH, not sure because ETCPool shows 1947306 as highest block....
is there a setting to sync to ETC blockchain ?

You're on ETH.

Use this to sync to ETC:

Code:
geth --oppose-dao-fork
geth --oppose-dao-fork
flag provided but not defined: -oppose-dao-fork

get the go-ethereum like mentioned from ethereumclassic ... strange that it will only sync eth and not etc ...
which one was the last from ethereum at github that will sync to etc chain ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Crpto4$ on July 25, 2016, 08:20:14 PM
Is the number of Ethereum Classic coins going to be capped or it will go for infinity??


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 25, 2016, 08:41:28 PM
how to verify on which chain i am ? could someone make a hash from a block of etc chain after the fork ?


You can verify the height. ETH chain is higher...


cloned go-ethereum from github.com/ethereumproject
Compiled and start syncing

info from eth.syncing is:

{
  currentBlock: 197,
  highestBlock: 1951540,
  knownStates: 223170,
  pulledStates: 113620,
  startingBlock: 0
}

hmmm highest Bloch: 1941540, is this ETC or ETH, not sure because ETCPool shows 1947306 as highest block....
is there a setting to sync to ETC blockchain ?

You're on ETH.

Use this to sync to ETC:

Code:
geth --oppose-dao-fork
geth --oppose-dao-fork
flag provided but not defined: -oppose-dao-fork

get the go-ethereum like mentioned from ethereumclassic ... strange that it will only sync eth and not etc ...
which one was the last from ethereum at github that will sync to etc chain ?

got now geth from official ethereum repo , this version accept --oppose-dao-fork ...
will let it sync and take a look


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 09:35:19 PM
Just wanted to give a shout out to the OP and those who have helped support getting ETC on the roadmap and helping make this happen.  I am thrilled so far and am very hopeful for a bright future for ETC.  This ANN has been very helpful.  Thank you!  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 25, 2016, 09:40:02 PM
@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

From my perspective, none of this matters. This coin seems like a great candidate for a pump by scavenging off ETH fomo and offering "cheap" ETH to those who missed out on the bubble. Probably more dumpage yet to come, but to hastily dismiss this coin seems unwise.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: starsnshamrocks on July 25, 2016, 09:41:06 PM
Do know if the ETC balances were granted to ETH holders on poloniex, who were lending all of the coins when the "gift" was sent out?
I guess that happened to me.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 09:44:10 PM
@VladZamfir Ethc will need to hardfork to isolate itself from Eth. Its Dapps will be hampered by replay attacks.
https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/757287474850848768

&

 https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4udq75/joint_statement_from_digix_and_maker_regarding/
Joint Statement from Digix and Maker Regarding Hard Fork

Wherever it makes sense to do so, the "true" version of any deployed contract related to the Digix or Maker contract systems should be interpreted as residing on Ethereum (ETH) "pro-fork" chain. Any system updates will proceed as planned on ETH.

We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.

From my perspective, none of this matters. This coin seems like a great candidate for a pump by scavenging off ETH fomo and offering "cheap" ETH to those who missed out on the bubble. Probably more dumpage yet to come, but to hastily dismiss this coin seems unwise.
i hope this pumps so hard...but i got a feeling it will be skilled traders trading on a permanent downtrend that will take all the btc and hold the etc at the same time...then once its real cheap it will go back to current price...rinse repeat until coin dies


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 25, 2016, 09:46:41 PM
Bitfinex to list Ethereum Classic soon


https://steemit.com/ethereum/@bitek/bitfinex-to-list-ethereum-classic-soon (https://steemit.com/ethereum/@bitek/bitfinex-to-list-ethereum-classic-soon)

LOL, funny after owner said he wishes he never listed shitcoin ETH. :)

Guess he like me sees this as the real ETH.

 
Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth.




<redacted> Damn almost posted how the ETH Devs can really hurt ETC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: solid12345 on July 25, 2016, 09:51:05 PM

Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth.


I laughed when he posted Seaman's crying emo editorial on Huffington Post to make a case, I mean really :p


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 10:01:03 PM

Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth.


I laughed when he posted Seaman's crying emo editorial on Huffington Post to make a case, I mean really :p

fun fact...all ETH SHILLS have all the etc lol  :-*


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 25, 2016, 10:01:35 PM

Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth.


I laughed when he posted Seaman's crying emo editorial on Huffington Post to make a case, I mean really :p
i laughed when i saw etc price go down 50% today and the hashrate went down too,lol...are your bags feelin heavy yet m8, or you trying to average out by buying more now,lol
I laugh when people...BUY etc ,lol something thats free for all ETH holders

Hash is gonna be down in a heat wave, that is not bought hash it is principle hash. Something you know nothing of.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 25, 2016, 10:01:41 PM

Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth.


I laughed when he posted Seaman's crying emo editorial on Huffington Post to make a case, I mean really :p
i laughed when i saw etc price go down 50% today and the hashrate went down too,lol...are your bags feelin heavy yet m8, or you trying to average out by buying more now,lol
I laugh when people...BUY etc ,lol something thats free for all ETH holders
If etc is a shit coin like u keep talking, what are u doing here? U dont have wife or girlfriend? Go make sex and stop complain about our money.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 25, 2016, 10:05:25 PM

Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth.


I laughed when he posted Seaman's crying emo editorial on Huffington Post to make a case, I mean really :p
i laughed when i saw etc price go down 50% today and the hashrate went down too,lol...are your bags feelin heavy yet m8, or you trying to average out by buying more now,lol
I laugh when people...BUY etc ,lol something thats free for all ETH holders
If etc is a shit coin like u keep talking, what are u doing here? U dont have wife or girlfriend? Go make sex and stop complain about our money.
sorry break this to you, but i became a major etc holder without buying any,  (on day1, the first few hours of listing i 10x my etc from my polo account alone  :P )i had no choice and you guys helped me get the etc, so thanks for the $$ :P 
long live etc, now buy buy


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kahir on July 25, 2016, 10:16:30 PM
dayyym that dump at morning 1500 btc in 10 mins ...mm someone really angry


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 25, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
The sooner people who are hating on ETC dump the better... I wish they would hurry up! LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Waldozaur12 on July 25, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
I bought TON's ETC around 20-30K sat. I'm still holding. Everything is possible.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: crazyearner on July 25, 2016, 10:52:51 PM
How do I know what chain my wallet is on. I have followed all instructions on creating new and backing up old, yet I see all history of transactions going out but old wallets not listed? I have created new wallet but on old fork or so How do I check this is correct?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 25, 2016, 10:59:59 PM

[/quote]
sorry break this to you, but i became a major etc holder without buying any,  (on day1, the first few hours of listing i 10x my etc from my polo account alone  :P )i had no choice and you guys helped me get the etc, so thanks for the $$ :P 
long live etc, now buy buy
[/quote]

You and every ETH holder Mr Tits I sold all my ETH for BTC and kept the ETC so who got more money out of the deal when your ETH is going down since the fork ?? Stop spamming this thread nothing here for you


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: compmaster on July 25, 2016, 11:06:17 PM


https://twitter.com/GirlCrypto/status/633804308060835841

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMu5qOaUcAAiXhF.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: basyaru on July 25, 2016, 11:09:22 PM
Do know if the ETC balances were granted to ETH holders on poloniex, who were lending all of the coins when the "gift" was sent out?
I guess that happened to me.

I've asked the Poloniex support about my ETH placed in lending at the fork time and got the answer:

"When you loan funds, you forfeit possession and control to a borrower in exchange for a debt owed to you. If your funds were on loan when the fork occurred, whoever was in possession of them at that time received the ETC. This may have been the borrower, or it may have been another trader the borrower sold the ETH to. A trader buying from the borrower may even have withdrawn that ETH from Poloniex before the hard fork."


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cohnhead on July 25, 2016, 11:33:59 PM
the difference in blocks is growing larger...the eth chain is currently 4,493 blocks ahead of etc....wassup...I thought longest chain wins


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 12:06:48 AM
Sooo, why do the last three blocks on suprnova show this:

Block   Validity   Finder   Time   Difficulty   Amount   Expected Shares   Actual Shares   Percentage
1948184   142 left   anonymous   01/19/2038 03:14:07   1,215.2467   5.0000   311,103   474,127   152.40
1948135   Orphan   anonymous   01/19/2038 03:14:07   1,222.9979   5.0000   313,087   960,041   306.64
1947911   Orphan   AxlSaddek   07/25/2016 22:23:23   1,336.1854   5.0000   342,063   73,221   21.41


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 12:09:34 AM
Someone was flooding the pool with invalid shares - banned now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 12:12:24 AM
Someone was flooding the pool with invalid shares - banned now.

Thanks for the fast response, impressive!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 12:25:05 AM
The most stupid coin ever, i want to see this Scam coin die.

I dont know why Poloniex add this shit coin.

This Scam coin is only to support the Thief of Dao, is the only way he can cash out, why you dont see the truth.

Team of Scammers.

Not as stupid as you comment. Calling the original chain that didnt bail out ignorant investors that put money on a contract they did not understand a scam really shows your understanding of what is happening so please show your ignorant self the way out

Terms accepted by investors that got bailed out

"...When you click the “I Accept” button or check box presented with the terms you are agreeing that you are taking part in The DAO’s Creation under the terms set forth in The DAO’s smart contract code at your own risk. If you are entering into The DAO’s Creation Phase for another entity or any third-party, such as the company you work for, you represent to The DAO, you warrant that you have legal authority to bind that entity to these terms as set forth in The DAO’s smart contract code.

By Creating DAO tokens through interaction with The DAO’s smart contract code, you expressly agree to all of the terms and conditions set forth in that code. If you do not understand or do not agree to those terms, you should not Create DAO tokens.

The use of The DAO’s smart contract code and the Creation of DAO tokens carries significant financial risk, including using experimental software. This document does not constitute a Prospectus of any sort, is not a solicitation for investment and does not pertain in any way to an offering of securities in any jurisdiction.  ..."

If you were stupid enough to put money on a code you did not understand and could have been exploited then you shouldnt have invested simple !!

I didnt see MtGox users getting bailed out did you ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 26, 2016, 12:45:31 AM
http://vessenes.com/do-not-mess-with-eth-classic-it-will-f-you-up/

Simplest Example: Selling Coins at Poloniex

You wish to get a little Bitcoin in exchange for your Classic coins,  You send them to Poloniex, at their ETC deposit address.

You sell the coins, withdraw Bitcoin, and are happy. Until.. you log back in to your client tracking the non-Classic fork and see that your coins are gone. Where did they go?

Some ETH-Classic supporter has sent them on to the same address as Poloniex' ETH-Classic deposit address, but this time on the main chain, by simply replaying the transaction in the main chain.

If you are very, very lucky, Poloniex may be able to keep track of these coins on the main chain for you. But, probably, they are going to be lost until and unless someone can manually see what's going on and help you out.

So if your mining etc and sending to an exchange..beware... :o



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 26, 2016, 01:00:02 AM
DAO Attacker Has Drained ETC DAO (Classic)
4 hours ago by eeks in crypto-news

Here is The DarkDAO address on the Ethereum Classic chain. It occurred earlier today. The Ethereum Classic blockchain explorer only goes back 256 blocks, but you can see that the Classic DarkDAO is now drained. No one knows where her ETC has gone but per the current price of ETC, her 3.6 million ETC would be worth $2.3 million USD if she were to sell them today, magically without moving the market at all. Still a huge haul for a few hours of her time and effort. Yes, she. Women can be DAO attackers, too.

https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@eeks/dao-attacker-has-drained-etc-dao-ethereum-classic



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 01:06:37 AM
http://vessenes.com/do-not-mess-with-eth-classic-it-will-f-you-up/

Simplest Example: Selling Coins at Poloniex

You wish to get a little Bitcoin in exchange for your Classic coins,  You send them to Poloniex, at their ETC deposit address.

You sell the coins, withdraw Bitcoin, and are happy. Until.. you log back in to your client tracking the non-Classic fork and see that your coins are gone. Where did they go?

Some ETH-Classic supporter has sent them on to the same address as Poloniex' ETH-Classic deposit address, but this time on the main chain, by simply replaying the transaction in the main chain.

If you are very, very lucky, Poloniex may be able to keep track of these coins on the main chain for you. But, probably, they are going to be lost until and unless someone can manually see what's going on and help you out.

So if your mining etc and sending to an exchange..beware... :o


You forgot to mention one crucial detail. This can only happen if one mines to an old ETH address. Create a new address for ETC mining and this won't happen.

But then again, we're talking about people who had to be bailed out of their own mess  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 26, 2016, 01:11:18 AM
The most stupid coin ever, i want to see this Scam coin die.

I dont know why Poloniex add this shit coin.

This Scam coin is only to support the Thief of Dao, is the only way he can cash out, why you dont see the truth.

Team of Scammers.

2 chains really ?, nobody will support this coin, just wait till the hacker dump over you millions of etc.

http://i.imgur.com/qyusZ8i.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptolord on July 26, 2016, 01:25:21 AM
Since ETH and ETC are siblings, i think the price will be about the same in the near future



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: nonlinearboy on July 26, 2016, 01:28:15 AM
buy some in P, wait for the next plan.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 01:52:53 AM
http://vessenes.com/do-not-mess-with-eth-classic-it-will-f-you-up/

Simplest Example: Selling Coins at Poloniex

You wish to get a little Bitcoin in exchange for your Classic coins,  You send them to Poloniex, at their ETC deposit address.

You sell the coins, withdraw Bitcoin, and are happy. Until.. you log back in to your client tracking the non-Classic fork and see that your coins are gone. Where did they go?

Some ETH-Classic supporter has sent them on to the same address as Poloniex' ETH-Classic deposit address, but this time on the main chain, by simply replaying the transaction in the main chain.

If you are very, very lucky, Poloniex may be able to keep track of these coins on the main chain for you. But, probably, they are going to be lost until and unless someone can manually see what's going on and help you out.

So if your mining etc and sending to an exchange..beware... :o


You forgot to mention one crucial detail. This can only happen if one mines to an old ETH address. Create a new address for ETC mining and this won't happen.

But then again, we're talking about people who had to be bailed out of their own mess  ;D

theres alot more there, i just took out a small extract...
gd luck m8 now ETH guys and DAO hacker have 80mill+ etc coins

You seriously need to go start your own post "How ETC will ruin your life, make your penis fall off, and give you fleas".  

It is time to ask yourself.  Was ETH hacked????  The answer is NO!  The DAO was hacked, specifically a contract mechanism that was poorly implemented was exploited in the DAO.  ETH was NEVER in any danger.  If you are not aware of how ETH was affected then what in the world are you doing holding a LOT of ETH in the first place if you thought it was in imminent danger????

Now seriously if your want to ramble on about replay attacks that never happened in ETH, or 51% attacks it would be best to move over to another post/thread and repeat this to the less informed instead of trying to FUD everyone here.  

If your in this thread I assume you have done your homework, or are about to do your homework regarding ETH(now ETC).  If any of this BS that is repeated had any truth to it anyone who owned ETH prior to the hard fork would have been ROBBED.  Simply didn't happen because ETH was not in any danger.  

If your here because you want to know more or have questions please feel free to ask.  Right now I can honestly say that most of the nonsense being repeated is absolutely baseless, and it really drives home the point that you can probably trust about 1/10th of what you hear.  

If your not going to add to the conversation please go start the "Missing penis" thread and give us a break...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 02:35:03 AM
ETC is having a serious hard on. Must be that "bumper tits" kid buying it up.

https://i.snag.gy/6ir48B.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 02:38:44 AM
WoW price dying time for buy more lol
 :)

i will start buying at 50,000 sats. Price is way too high.

You don't think that is a bit high, considering all EtHF holders doubled their tokens?

Yes, in fact everybody has free coins. so it is all free money for ETH holders. In fact terrible that this is even allowed, but in crypto everything is possible.

You're forgetting that many lost it in the dao, so we'll have to see if the attacker helps etc or ethf


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 02:40:11 AM
Some eth fanboys come here and talk shit.
Go back to ur eth, and go make money.
The market is free.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 02:47:22 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/tale-two-chains-ethereum/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 02:48:48 AM
what's the fastest way to get a fully synced wallet with a new address to mine to on this chain?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: The Bitcoin Co-op on July 26, 2016, 02:50:52 AM
So awesome that Poloniex added this coin. Can't speak on behalf of the whole Bitcoin Co-op on such a controversial issue, but I think it's fair to allow the free market to decide. This is how we maintain consensus while disagreeing on things; it is a natural counter-reaction to the forces (investors in the DAO Project) who incentivized the fork. You don't want ETH's value to be higher for the reason that your ideological opponents are forced to play along


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 02:53:18 AM
what's the fastest way to get a fully synced wallet with a new address to mine to on this chain?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 02:53:56 AM
Ethf shitcoiners can only dump once, they've tried crashing etc and they've failed


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Dev_Sempak_coin on July 26, 2016, 02:56:00 AM
http://ethc.epool.io/#/account/0xff454ada227fdae6efcdebf7c1ead630c794c161
i can't ceck my stat's ??? what's wrong ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 02:57:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 02:58:31 AM
what's the fastest way to get a fully synced wallet with a new address to mine to on this chain?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614

Thanks for the reply. I've had it synchronizing for a few hours now. Was just looking for an even quicker way  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ErnieRox on July 26, 2016, 02:58:55 AM
cant say i disagree this is the real eth, go etc!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 02:59:31 AM
what's the fastest way to get a fully synced wallet with a new address to mine to on this chain?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614

Thanks for the reply. I've had it synchronizing for a few hours now. Was just looking for an even quicker way  :P

We will have a myetherwallet soon


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 03:00:25 AM
Ethf miners must support etc if etc doesn't go POS or they have no future.


Title: Re: [ANN] Ethereum Classic: The Original
Post by: JackLondon on July 26, 2016, 03:01:56 AM
Join the petition at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559622.0 to get our rightful thread

Note, I don't intend on moderating ethf trolls for the most part.

Also I've never held any eth, ethc, ethf nor dao.


This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

You don't even need to trust us since we're using eth code. Ethf had to get new code not ethc.

Guys, I first want to congratulate all of you for standing up for what you believe to be right. I am with you 100%. I was building an Ethereum Blog 'Ethereum Headlines' https://ethereumheadlines.com and had given up on it basically due to this hard fork and then I found out about Ethereum Classic'. I notified the dev team that I wanted to do what I can to help. After being in Bitcoin for nearly 6 years now there is a lot I can do. For now I am going to try to get the word out to people like us or those that are unaware or on the fence about crossing over and standing behind true integrity which I believe 'Ethereum Classic' and all of you to be of that ilk. I am slammed with major commitments now however I will do my best to get some original content posted instead of just reposting others content. If I can build even the slightest of a following I am hoping to open up the blog to be used by anyone that wants to add their own content on the blog that supports this great project. Of course your free to put your ETC/BTC Address at the bottom of that vetted content for yourself of course. The Ethereum Headlines Blog does not ask for any money or have annoying advertising and I hope to keep it that way and have some good original content that supports all this. If anyone wants me to identify myself please private message me and that will not be a problem unless your a troll which I frankly have no time for dealing with that.

BTW- I have a small mining rig running 4 MSI R7 370 4GB DDR5 GPUs with dual OS Ubuntu 15.1 & Windows 8.1 and am having trouble getting this to mine solo in Ubuntu 15.1 (I know, I know) or in a Pool. If anyone could write me up some instructions and shoot me a private message how to get mining in Ubuntu 15.1 preferably or Windows I would appreciate it very much. Thanks!!

Great work guys!!!

Best,

~jacklondon

https://ethereumheadlines.com





Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 26, 2016, 03:13:10 AM
So you guys gonna mine ETC or not?  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: chivaki on July 26, 2016, 03:14:33 AM
Hi
Where from can I take windows wallat?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 03:15:13 AM
So you guys gonna mine ETC or not?  ;D

Already mining... Wore out 2 shovels, a pick axe, and a rubber band... Don't ask! LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 03:16:40 AM
what's the fastest way to get a fully synced wallet with a new address to mine to on this chain?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614


Thanks for the reply. I've had it synchronizing for a few hours now. Was just looking for an even quicker way  :P

We will have a myetherwallet soon


Is there any way to see my address before it synchronizes fully? I'm trying to begin mining right away  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
Hi
Where from can I take windows wallat?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 03:20:22 AM
what's the fastest way to get a fully synced wallet with a new address to mine to on this chain?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15657614#msg15657614


Thanks for the reply. I've had it synchronizing for a few hours now. Was just looking for an even quicker way  :P

We will have a myetherwallet soon


Is there any way to see my address before it synchronizes fully? I'm trying to begin mining right away  :D

Does it let you launch the application?

You can also try https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4uhhds/ethereumclassic_clientside_wallet/
Or use a poloniex address but you must mine over 1 etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: qumatru on July 26, 2016, 03:58:12 AM
Why are you lying?

the address is right here and the balance is all there:
https://etherchain.org/account/0x304a554a310c7e546dfe434669c62820b7d83490

DAO Attacker Has Drained ETC DAO (Classic)
4 hours ago by eeks in crypto-news

Here is The DarkDAO address on the Ethereum Classic chain. It occurred earlier today. The Ethereum Classic blockchain explorer only goes back 256 blocks, but you can see that the Classic DarkDAO is now drained. No one knows where her ETC has gone but per the current price of ETC, her 3.6 million ETC would be worth $2.3 million USD if she were to sell them today, magically without moving the market at all. Still a huge haul for a few hours of her time and effort. Yes, she. Women can be DAO attackers, too.

https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@eeks/dao-attacker-has-drained-etc-dao-ethereum-classic




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Dev_Sempak_coin on July 26, 2016, 04:01:04 AM
http://ethc.epool.io/#/account/0xff454ada227fdae6efcdebf7c1ead630c794c161
i can't ceck my stat's ??? what's wrong ?

anyone can help me? must i move my mining to other pool? or the pool will back and my mining can be paid ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 26, 2016, 04:09:17 AM
Thought this was useful, a comparison of ETC/ETH price and hashrate: https://slacknation.github.io/medium/13/13.html


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 26, 2016, 04:21:10 AM
Pump and dump is over. Good to see ETC up trend. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 26, 2016, 04:24:08 AM
Why are you lying?

the address is right here and the balance is all there:
https://etherchain.org/account/0x304a554a310c7e546dfe434669c62820b7d83490

DAO Attacker Has Drained ETC DAO (Classic)
4 hours ago by eeks in crypto-news

Here is The DarkDAO address on the Ethereum Classic chain. It occurred earlier today. The Ethereum Classic blockchain explorer only goes back 256 blocks, but you can see that the Classic DarkDAO is now drained. No one knows where her ETC has gone but per the current price of ETC, her 3.6 million ETC would be worth $2.3 million USD if she were to sell them today, magically without moving the market at all. Still a huge haul for a few hours of her time and effort. Yes, she. Women can be DAO attackers, too.

https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@eeks/dao-attacker-has-drained-etc-dao-ethereum-classic



Get to quote myself. :D

...

 
Lots of folks here don't know mrpumperoids is a straight ETH shill that can not be trusted to tell the truth....


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 04:30:50 AM
ETC doing well in this "crash"


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 04:40:25 AM
I have a request... Can we keep the price of ETC low for a while so we can buy a pile of it for cheap?  I mean what's the harm in a little ETC accumulation before letting the dogs out and watching the price skyrocket... Just sayin...  LOL



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 04:45:47 AM
I have a request... Can we keep the price of ETC low for a while so we can buy a pile of it for cheap?  I mean what's the harm in a little ETC accumulation before letting the dogs out and watching the price skyrocket... Just sayin...  LOL



mr pumper tits promised we'd get good pricing but he lied


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: SparkyU on July 26, 2016, 04:55:58 AM
I think I'll wait a month before I decide which direction to go.  Sometimes tells me the price will be wildly in one direction or the other, but certainly not what it is now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 26, 2016, 04:58:07 AM
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New sharediff stratum for riggs over 500MH on US3

HOST: us3.epool.io, PORT: 8008 and your WALLET.


Ξpool Support

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Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cohnhead on July 26, 2016, 05:11:47 AM
some questions...
how much eth classic does DAO hacker have?
will eth classic move to POS as was planned with eth?
and if so doesn't that give dao hacker major portion of pos coins
and are implications of this already factored into price or is etc community planning to continue with pow


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 05:21:02 AM
some questions...
how much eth classic does DAO hacker have?
will eth classic move to POS as was planned with eth?
and if so doesn't that give dao hacker major portion of pos coins
and are implications of this already factored into price or is etc community planning to continue with pow


Doesn't matter.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, as far as I know PoW is planned. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: dannygroove on July 26, 2016, 05:40:04 AM
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INFO --> https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=91

New sharediff stratum for riggs over 500MH on US3

HOST: us3.epool.io, PORT: 8008 and your WALLET.


Ξpool Support

http://www.epool.io

For single rigs of over 500 MH/s or for people who have more than 500 MH/s combined between workers?
Thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptmebro on July 26, 2016, 06:00:44 AM
I finally received payout from pool.ethereumclassic.com


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ict on July 26, 2016, 06:02:06 AM
Im confusing, Op are you a Dev off this coin?
because you say never held etc, eth, or dao. how you do this?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 26, 2016, 06:05:19 AM
Coinexchange adedd etc to exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 26, 2016, 06:06:49 AM
Did anyone try to communicate with the attacker? I think it is a wise thing to do if you want stability and security for the original chain. He has a degree of power on the platform and it would be ideal if he comes out and communicates to the ETC supporters what are his motives and his plans.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 26, 2016, 06:08:15 AM
What is the miners opinion on ETC?


The hash rate is dropping although the price is quite stable and going up...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 26, 2016, 06:11:03 AM
i heard the walls are gona move up...no more cheap etc, best buy asap


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 06:12:34 AM
What is the miners opinion on ETC?


The hash rate is dropping although the price is quite stable and going up...

Right now its the most profitable Ethash to mine.

IF:
Your pool pays all your hashes.  

(read the reports in this thread for stats on the pools, some shady things there... GO SUPRNOVA if poolmining, thats my suggestion.)

But there seems to be something weird in the blockchain... or its just lagging (attacks maybe?)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 06:16:23 AM
Im confusing, Op are you a Dev off this coin?
because you say never held etc, eth, or dao. how you do this?

Now i hold etc. I'm just the bct manager of the team


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: krile on July 26, 2016, 06:22:34 AM
What is the miners opinion on ETC?


The hash rate is dropping although the price is quite stable and going up...

Right now its the most profitable Ethash to mine.

IF:
Your pool pays all your hashes.  

(read the reports in this thread for stats on the pools, some shady things there... GO SUPRNOVA if poolmining, thats my suggestion.)

But there seems to be something weird in the blockchain... or its just lagging (attacks maybe?)

I experienced some ddos issues with some pools. Currently mining on https://ethc.coin-miners.info/ and the payouts are on schedule.

I am just wandering why more miners arent joining. Its not so difficult to find a good pool. Or go solo if you have a serious farm...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: whiteorg72 on July 26, 2016, 06:27:37 AM
To store ETC coins which is better to choose wallet - Ethereum wallet or Mist wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 06:33:00 AM
To store ETC coins which is better to choose wallet - Ethereum wallet or Mist wallet?

I've been using Mist on my Windows PC. I had one error, my balances weren't updating and I know epool pays so I restarted the wallet and had to wait for it to sync again. Took like 5 mins or so. My balances updated after sync. I don't know why my wallet stopped syncing, but it definitely could be an issue on my end. I think I need to replace an ethernet cable.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 06:35:33 AM
To store ETC coins which is better to choose wallet - Ethereum wallet or Mist wallet?

I use ethereum wallet, never figured out the difference


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 06:37:30 AM
On the mining side it appears pools rushed to get something setup and there have been problems.  I am sure over time those issues will be sorted out, but it can make it tough to get on a pool that is consistent and paying.  Also I have seen a lot of DDOS on the pools affecting connectivity.  Kind of a rocky start.

It will just take some time for things to settle down is all.  We are seeing well known pools starting to offer ETC pools now so it is just a matter of time before we have options and things will be ironed out.  

If you're an early adopter and willing to put up with some growing pains the water is fine.  If your adverse to the risk then hold off for a week or two and most of these issues will likely be addressed.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 26, 2016, 06:38:07 AM
Why did i sold my stake with only $10 profit :D i should have made $700 profit :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: enhu on July 26, 2016, 06:40:40 AM
do you guys think etc will surpass the ETH price later? i'll  be buying if your advices will convince me. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 06:41:46 AM
Why did i sold my stake with only $10 profit :D i should have made $700 profit :D

There are going to be some pull backs in price, buy the dips and make some money.  ETC is in this for the long haul. A year from now we will look back at these prices and say "Why didn't I buy a LOT more?".


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kahir on July 26, 2016, 06:43:38 AM
Did anyone try to communicate with the attacker? I think it is a wise thing to do if you want stability and security for the original chain. He has a degree of power on the platform and it would be ideal if he comes out and communicates to the ETC supporters what are his motives and his plans.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c5/c5b15c90f333616ec7e33d60d5ee091966651015a2b251bb5b1983f13e21ef13.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yubsep on July 26, 2016, 06:47:34 AM
It is easy to attack ETC.. but it will certainly affect the innocent ETC holders...
My principle is don't be evil... (Chandler Guo) !!!
https://twitter.com/ChandlerGuo/status/757737096668848128


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: wendy107th on July 26, 2016, 06:51:08 AM
do you guys think etc will surpass the ETH price later? i'll  be buying if your advices will convince me. :)
yes
BTC no DEV
ETHC NO DEV
al other coins DEV
ETHC NEW BTC  ;)
HOLD THIS 1


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 07:04:00 AM
Let's show eth who the real ethereum is, etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tinaken_v on July 26, 2016, 07:07:42 AM
do you guys think etc will surpass the ETH price later? i'll  be buying if your advices will convince me. :)
yes
BTC no DEV
ETHC NO DEV
al other coins DEV
ETHC NEW BTC  ;)
HOLD THIS 1

Love this

DLISK DEV and cheap BUY THAT ONE.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 07:20:10 AM
First we beat litecoin, then we destroy ethf

We're already doing extremely well absorbing dumped etc plus paying miners


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 07:37:10 AM
Nicehash Support added @ https://etc.suprnova.cc:

You can rent at Nicehash and point it to: stratum+tcp://etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333

Claymore is next, expect it by the same time tomorrow


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Wolf Rainer on July 26, 2016, 07:38:17 AM
First we beat litecoin, then we destroy ethf

We're already doing extremely well absorbing dumped etc plus paying miners


Fucking team of Hackers and Scammers. Go to the hell with your scam coin.

Lol, so you loses the boat?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: beyinsi on July 26, 2016, 07:51:03 AM
When will Bittrex add the ethereum Classic ? Is there any news about that?
 
Maybe bittrex supports vitalik...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HCLivess on July 26, 2016, 07:52:52 AM
This coup needed to have been done


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 08:01:41 AM
This coup needed to have been done

Coup against tyranny and dictatorship of centralized ethf


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
Back at $1! Get your decentralized presale! Don't support centralized premine of ethf!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: coinbiz on July 26, 2016, 08:12:55 AM
Someday I'll tell my kids about this.  We are the new elite  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 08:14:23 AM
After every ethf fork more will join us! Every time a developer realizes they need immutable smart contracts, they will join us!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: jkoin on July 26, 2016, 08:27:02 AM
After every ethf fork more will join us! Every time a developer realizes they need immutable smart contracts, they will join us!

and what will happen when ETC needs to be forked?

I suppose ETC will hard forked only for bug in the "core ethereum protocol". Never hard forked for reverse or invalidate smart contracts. IMO


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 08:40:42 AM
Current trading volume on Poloniex ETH 24.4K ETC 20K
ETH dump is imminent smart investors are slowly dumping ETH and moving to ETC

Poloniex is making a killing in fees and people still wonder why they listed the coin LOL






Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 26, 2016, 08:40:59 AM
After every ethf fork more will join us! Every time a developer realizes they need immutable smart contracts, they will join us!

and what will happen when ETC needs to be forked?


PS: AND PLEASE DON'T DELETE MY POST AGAIN!!!! IT IS A VALID QUESTION!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Jacques21 on July 26, 2016, 08:41:10 AM
It is easy to attack ETC.. but it will certainly affect the innocent ETC holders...
My principle is don't be evil... (Chandler Guo) !!!
https://twitter.com/ChandlerGuo/status/757737096668848128

He had his chance to do it, he doesnt have the hashpower to do it now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 26, 2016, 08:49:10 AM
Nicehash Support added @ https://etc.suprnova.cc:


You can rent at Nicehash and point it to: stratum+tcp://etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333

Claymore is next, expect it by the same time tomorrow

@ocminer

why i cant update my account?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 08:55:36 AM
put some hashes to suprnova pool..best pool ever!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 26, 2016, 08:58:45 AM
im waiting for claymore miner....

the thing is that i cant update my account...?>


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 09:10:42 AM
After every ethf fork more will join us! Every time a developer realizes they need immutable smart contracts, they will join us!

and what will happen when ETC needs to be forked?


PS: AND PLEASE DON'T DELETE MY POST AGAIN!!!! IT IS A VALID QUESTION!!!

Then it'll fork without changing immutablity or balances

Stop concern trolling, read the op


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 09:13:07 AM
Nicehash Support added @ https://etc.suprnova.cc:


You can rent at Nicehash and point it to: stratum+tcp://etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333

Claymore is next, expect it by the same time tomorrow

@ocminer

why i cant update my account?

which error do you get ? are you trying to use the same payout address as for eth ? not working - you'd have to use a new address.

testing claymore currently, should be ready in a few hours


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
Nicehash Support added @ https://etc.suprnova.cc:


You can rent at Nicehash and point it to: stratum+tcp://etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333

Claymore is next, expect it by the same time tomorrow

@ocminer

why i cant update my account?

which error do you get ? are you trying to use the same payout address as for eth ? not working - you'd have to use a new address.

testing claymore currently, should be ready in a few hours

oc pls edit eth to etc in the dashboard if u got time for it :D thanks^^


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 26, 2016, 09:24:47 AM
etc at .0017  ... up 47% 55%

great job pumpy ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 09:25:48 AM
Mr pumper tits did a good job with reverse psychology and pretending to dump

Get your fair and decentralized presale https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4un8oi/etc_presale_is_running_right_now/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 09:30:06 AM
Mr pumper tits did a good job with reverse psychology and pretending to dump

Get your fair and decentralized presale https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4un8oi/etc_presale_is_running_right_now/

;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 09:34:45 AM
No premine, no forks here, you get pure ethereum


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hiddensphinx on July 26, 2016, 09:35:19 AM
Got a feeling more and more hash coming to ETC from you know who  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ElitistCA on July 26, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Got a feeling more and more hash coming to ETC from you know who  :P

I dont know who.
Who are devs in ETC btw?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 09:39:54 AM
Got a feeling more and more hash coming to ETC from you know who  :P

I dont know who.
Who are devs in ETC btw?

This is one https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4un8oi/etc_presale_is_running_right_now/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Kartoff on July 26, 2016, 09:40:02 AM
NanoPool so laggy now... WTF  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 09:41:51 AM
Wow, if etc is a dead coin, thats a crazy zombie coin in a rocket


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitcoinuserz on July 26, 2016, 09:57:09 AM
https://s32.postimg.org/cf4z451o5/ethereumfoundation.jpg

Ethereum Foundation is like WUT?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 10:00:27 AM
Jokes on them, ethf is dumping


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: vit0z on July 26, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Wow, if etc is a dead coin, thats a crazy zombie coin in a rocket

Maybe ETC and ETH prices will be equal soon?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: redsn0w on July 26, 2016, 10:02:59 AM


http://i.imgur.com/WhwlG4M.png (http://imgur.com/a/0tFoX)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 10:07:15 AM
WOW, what is this!

Buyers keep smashing sellers!

HAHA, maybe etc of dumpers are all gone!

Time to rise boys!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: The Bitcoin Co-op on July 26, 2016, 10:08:20 AM
You're welcome, guys http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/07/26/case-ethereum-classic/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 10:09:02 AM
Well well well
If you have 13 dollars ... what would you buy?

1 ETH or 12 ETC?

P.S. from the last 2 photos i see that ETH devs are really mad at ETC .... why is that? I mean if they know they did the right think why they look at another altcoin??? one word

ENVY


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 10:13:46 AM

Nicehash Support added @ https://etc.suprnova.cc:


You can rent at Nicehash and point it to: stratum+tcp://etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333

Claymore is next, expect it by the same time tomorrow

@ocminer

why i cant update my account?

which error do you get ? are you trying to use the same payout address as for eth ? not working - you'd have to use a new address.

testing claymore currently, should be ready in a few hours

oc pls edit eth to etc in the dashboard if u got time for it :D thanks^^


Fixed :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: OSMIUMCOIN on July 26, 2016, 10:21:22 AM


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: superresistant on July 26, 2016, 10:22:57 AM
No premine, no forks here, you get pure ethereum

No Ethereum community. Perfect.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 10:24:32 AM

And i would like to reserve portuguese translation pls!

This will be a great new sensation!

Release the ETHC (beast)!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 26, 2016, 10:37:34 AM
Sweet


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cohnhead on July 26, 2016, 10:41:26 AM
some questions...
how much eth classic does DAO hacker have?
will eth classic move to POS as was planned with eth?
and if so doesn't that give dao hacker major portion of pos coins
and are implications of this already factored into price or is etc community planning to continue with pow


Doesn't matter.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, as far as I know PoW is planned. 
can anyone answer question about how many etc DAO hacker has?
why doesn't it matter


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 10:45:55 AM
some questions...
how much eth classic does DAO hacker have?
will eth classic move to POS as was planned with eth?
and if so doesn't that give dao hacker major portion of pos coins
and are implications of this already factored into price or is etc community planning to continue with pow


Doesn't matter.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, as far as I know PoW is planned.  
can anyone answer question about how many etc DAO hacker has?
why doesn't it matter

How is that important ? Theres no bailouts here and how is it better then the DAO investors dumping everything they have in ETH and moving into ETC at a profit ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 10:46:10 AM
We have no bounties at this time

I can link to your services though


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 10:46:31 AM

Any richlist?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 10:47:18 AM
some questions...
how much eth classic does DAO hacker have?
will eth classic move to POS as was planned with eth?
and if so doesn't that give dao hacker major portion of pos coins
and are implications of this already factored into price or is etc community planning to continue with pow


Doesn't matter.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, as far as I know PoW is planned.  
can anyone answer question about how many etc DAO hacker has?
why doesn't it matter

That's not our business. Show us your bank account? Now if he decides to donate or burn his coins we would destroy ethf.

https://steemit.com/dao/@gedae/the-dao-and-the-benefactors


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
No fudsters around ? Guess they are all busy selling ETH LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 11:12:08 AM
No fudsters around ? Guess they are all busy selling ETH LOL

It's happening, coup d'etat! Remember etc is the exact same coin that was selling for $20 last month. Soon they'll each be on parity at $10 each.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 11:16:32 AM
No fudsters around ? Guess they are all busy selling ETH LOL


Its more like a grown up thing. ETH ppl stay in their thread, ETC stays here.



Anyways..

Anyone got a richlist?
I wanna see where i am before deciding what to do.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 11:17:16 AM
ETC volume on Poloniex now higher then ETH  LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: streetlight on July 26, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
https://twitter.com/AngeloBTC/status/757897499914805248/photo/1


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 11:19:43 AM
Frost no disrespect but if you haven't realized what to do yet think you are in the wrong thread


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 11:23:39 AM
only 800k etc on polo ...

someone is buying up all etc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 11:24:20 AM
Frost no disrespect but if you haven't realized what to do yet think you are in the wrong thread

So i should dump?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LADAcoin on July 26, 2016, 11:24:25 AM
Awesome. Nice try reborn almost dead coin (or borndead). But not try again enter new scam like DAO


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 26, 2016, 11:27:17 AM
oh great. price has skyrocketed.. Where's the ETC bashers now?  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Golstrim on July 26, 2016, 11:31:14 AM
my coins ethereum (ETH) are on the my wallet. How do I get new coins Ethereum Classic (ETC) ?

I have to move their coins ethereum (ETH) on polo and and I will be have Ethereum Classic (ETC)?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 11:31:47 AM

Im watching this guy, waiting a bit more.

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/address/1b3cb81e51011b549d78bf720b0d924ac763a7c2


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 11:35:22 AM
etc 400-500k by end of the day...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 11:37:27 AM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 11:43:23 AM
where fud now?

making money with etc too?

lol, this is a dead coin, or better, this is a astronaut zombie coin... In the moon


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 11:51:19 AM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 26, 2016, 12:05:39 PM
Hom much ETC in gtx 750ti?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cohnhead on July 26, 2016, 12:13:10 PM
some questions...
how much eth classic does DAO hacker have?
will eth classic move to POS as was planned with eth?
and if so doesn't that give dao hacker major portion of pos coins
and are implications of this already factored into price or is etc community planning to continue with pow


Doesn't matter.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, as far as I know PoW is planned.  
can anyone answer question about how many etc DAO hacker has?
why doesn't it matter

How is that important ? Theres no bailouts here and how is it better then the DAO investors dumping everything they have in ETH and moving into ETC at a profit ?
thought it matters when ETC goes POS


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: killerjoegreece on July 26, 2016, 12:18:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565824.0

this just appeared. I dont think it has any merit tho.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
Yunbi listing soon in China https://yunbi.com/bulletins


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 26, 2016, 12:21:10 PM
So, since 2 hrs. my Ethereum Classic Pool is up and running

etc.coinpool.biz

Mining-Fee only 0,5 %
Fullpayout incl. Uncle-Rewards every 2 hrs.
TX-Fee payed by Pool

Also pools aviable for Ethereum and Expanse.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:25:26 PM
So, since 2 hrs. my Ethereum Classic Pool is up and running

etc.coinpool.biz

Mining-Fee only 0,5 %
Fullpayout incl. Uncle-Rewards every 2 hrs.
TX-Fee payed by Pool

Also pools aviable for Ethereum and Expanse.


Added


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
http://themerkle.com/etc-trumps-ethereum-trading-volume-on-poloniex/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pawel7777 on July 26, 2016, 12:35:04 PM
as per coinmarketcap:

Available supply of ETH: 82,359,361
Available supply of ETC: 82,297,453

What does the ~62k difference relate to? Shouldn't both numbers be identical?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: denverb on July 26, 2016, 12:35:23 PM
Glad to be part of this@!

 ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 12:35:30 PM
http://themerkle.com/etc-trumps-ethereum-trading-volume-on-poloniex/

And I'm fucking proud to be part of it!

Classic is the way!
Oh boy I am so glad I always liked you bitpop since the day I registered here ! And of course because I bought and I mine the classic Ethereum


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:37:34 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565824.0

this just appeared. I dont think it has any merit tho.

What kind of idiot preannounces a dump and wants to lock up coins to decrease our supply which helps us

Secondly, how's he planning to dump and lock


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:38:31 PM
as per coinmarketcap:

Available supply of ETH: 82,359,361
Available supply of ETC: 82,297,453

What does the ~62k difference relate to? Shouldn't both numbers be identical?

No our blockchain wasn't mining for a while and supply = coins * blocks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:39:26 PM
http://themerkle.com/etc-trumps-ethereum-trading-volume-on-poloniex/

And I'm fucking proud to be part of it!

Classic is the way!
Oh boy I am so glad I always liked you bitpop since the day I registered here ! And of course because I bought and I mine the classic Ethereum

We are an immutable family


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: CoinExchange.io on July 26, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
ETC/BTC market has been added to CoinExchange.io

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ETC/BTC


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Abiego on July 26, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
ETC/BTC market has been added to CoinExchange.io

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ETC/BTC


Thank you for supporting the right project.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 12:45:06 PM
ETC/BTC market has been added to CoinExchange.io

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ETC/BTC


Thank you for supporting the right project.

Added


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TrueAnon on July 26, 2016, 12:51:06 PM
LOL wow look at those polo charts go...."so natural"  ::) :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 12:52:51 PM
Check out this email from BitMex

http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=db45c09bdf20e1866bb32123f&id=f15a87988e&e=0f6795f899 (http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=db45c09bdf20e1866bb32123f&id=f15a87988e&e=0f6795f899)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 12:55:27 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 01:00:06 PM
If 300k wall be broken this etc going to other galaxy!

HAHA
thats will be a very nice!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 01:03:35 PM
292k :) 300k easy


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:03:49 PM
Fbi asks vitalik to fork out rouleth? Centralized, forks, law. Other countries ask to fork out Jews or women. Then what? Immutable is the only thing that stands in their way. Its the only reason for crypto.

Why do you think coinbase, a bank, would love forks? Proforkers need to stick with lawyers, mysql and fiat.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptodv on July 26, 2016, 01:06:12 PM
What is the end result of ETC? So ETC is going to trump over ETH? Is this just a pump and dump, or is there real value in ETC? I wake up this morning and ETC is up over 200%  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:06:42 PM
What is the end result of ETC? So ETC is going to trump over ETH? Is this just a pump and dump, or is there real value with ETC? I wake up this morning and ETC is up 200%  ??? ??? ???

Immutable is the key and only point of crypto.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
300k there it is :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: _Django05_ on July 26, 2016, 01:09:27 PM
Someone doens'nt want ETC on 300k sat. :D
Bring ETH to the ground.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 26, 2016, 01:09:42 PM
What is going on in the Ethereum community? What are the miners saying? They will be the key to victory. The supporters of ETC must appeal to them to find it in their hearts to do the right thing.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 01:09:54 PM
my coins ethereum (ETH) are on the my wallet. How do I get new coins Ethereum Classic (ETC) ?

I have to move their coins ethereum (ETH) on polo and and I will be have Ethereum Classic (ETC)?

Some users have reported that if you send your old ETH to Poloniex ETH (not ETC!) deposit address they will replay it on the other chain and credit you both ETH and ETC.

I have NOT confirmed this so please use at your own risk. Perhaps send 1 ETH + fees first.

as per coinmarketcap:

Available supply of ETH: 82,359,361
Available supply of ETC: 82,297,453

What does the ~62k difference relate to? Shouldn't both numbers be identical?

The chains have been mined separately since the fork so no, they won't be identical.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 01:11:30 PM
6 hours

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565824.0

Do not believe bitpop.

The only reason the fork happened was because the community as a whole decided to do it.

This would not happen when the FBI or whoever goes to Vitalik.

There has to be consensus, there has been consensus and there will be again.

The only popularity Ethereum Classic now has comes from its temporary monetary value. Which we will take before the devs get a chance to do so.

G.G

Can you elaborate on your ingenious plan? How does locking coins up help you? Can you sign a message with the address(es)?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:12:18 PM
I sent etc to polo and they found eth someone accidentally sent me but better to use one of the tutorials on Reddit


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 26, 2016, 01:14:46 PM
Where's pumpy? ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:16:07 PM
Where's pumpy? ;D

He should wake up soon, I should get his number. This will make his head explode


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 01:16:16 PM
Pumper tits is hiding LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 01:16:32 PM
Well another night of problems with pools.  This time it is etc.nanopool.org.  First they weren't making payments, then at 3am my time they finally made a payment, and since then they claim I haven't mined but .48 ETC, and are not showing my miners hashing.  So I don't know what is going on with nanopool, but this isn't cool.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 01:18:12 PM
Archive.is doesn't play nice with Poloniex so I'll just use a picture for archival purposes:

https://i.snag.gy/pJ9U1y.jpg

Never thought I'd see ETC volume overtake ETH on Poloniex. But then again, I never thought I'd see bitpop doing this thread so I have an abysmal track record on thinking  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: FgTeamBR on July 26, 2016, 01:22:59 PM
Where is the @Mrpumperitis RIP Hatter


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
Archive.is doesn't play nice with Poloniex so I'll just use a picture for archival purposes:

https://i.snag.gy/pJ9U1y.jpg

Never thought I'd see ETC volume overtake ETH on Poloniex. But then again, I never thought I'd see bitpop doing this thread so I have an abysmal track record on thinking  ;D

i don't know how much passed since you made this screenshot but now it at 341%




Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 01:25:51 PM
I sent etc to polo and they found eth someone accidentally sent me but better to use one of the tutorials on Reddit

Here is one (I have NOT tried this - use at your own risk):

https://m.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4uo5iz/the_nobrains_trick_to_separate_your_eth_and_etc/

The one I tested - but still use at your own risk ;-) - and you can see the source code of the contract, which is fairly simple:

http://etherscan.io/address/0xaa1a6e3e6ef20068f7f8d8c835d2d22fd5116444#code


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kirilvvbg on July 26, 2016, 01:27:05 PM
Well another night of problems with pools.  This time it is etc.nanopool.org.  First they weren't making payments, then at 3am my time they finally made a payment, and since then they claim I haven't mined but .48 ETC, and are not showing my miners hashing.  So I don't know what is going on with nanopool, but this isn't cool.

Yep, pool owners - wake up...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 01:27:12 PM
https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/07/26/onward_from_the_hard_fork/

Vitalik speaks on ETC

Value is about to fly.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 01:27:25 PM
i don't know how much passed since you made this screenshot but now it at 341%

10 minutes. Looks like panic buying now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 01:28:10 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!

Thats normal, you just did some stale work and that share got rejected - as long as your hashrate is correct and shares after that get accepted all is fine.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 01:30:01 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 01:35:54 PM
Man there will be many burned ppl here, very scary to think. :(


We all know the rules of the game. Burning is part of it.

Some people even like it hot and risky.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 01:37:45 PM
ETC coming to Bittrex

http://prntscr.com/bxq22f


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:39:09 PM
Archive.is doesn't play nice with Poloniex so I'll just use a picture for archival purposes:

https://i.snag.gy/pJ9U1y.jpg

Never thought I'd see ETC volume overtake ETH on Poloniex. But then again, I never thought I'd see bitpop doing this thread so I have an abysmal track record on thinking  ;D

When paycoin was foaming at the mouth thinking they'd beat bitcoin i joined in. When ethf started foaming also and looked like gawtards and losing immutability, I declared war. Even Homero didn't pull a centralized coin like ethf or onecoin. Or maybe he was just too dumb.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:40:27 PM
ETC coming to Bittrex

http://prntscr.com/bxq22f

Bittrex is my favorite! Though polo was nice and first time using it. But bittrex doesn't require verification and may have more traders.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: kirilvvbg on July 26, 2016, 01:44:07 PM
I sent etc to polo and they found eth someone accidentally sent me but better to use one of the tutorials on Reddit

Here is one (I have NOT tried this - use at your own risk):

https://m.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4uo5iz/the_nobrains_trick_to_separate_your_eth_and_etc/

The one I tested - but still use at your own risk ;-) - and you can see the source code of the contract, which is fairly simple:

http://etherscan.io/address/0xaa1a6e3e6ef20068f7f8d8c835d2d22fd5116444#code

I've checked my address on both chains (like in reddit was advised) and I don't have any balance at ETC chain. But I do have ~300ETH in Kraken. Should I ask them? What I suppose to do? Or my ETC now belong to Kraken?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?



Hmm, when you use this genoil:

https://github.com/nicehash/cpp-ethereum

It works 100% as it's the native implementation for nicehash's stratum.

I'll try Claymore now again, and adapt my stratum to the native claymore protocol too, the problem is just, that it uses Wallet adresses instead of usernames which is a bit uncommon on MPOS pools but i'll get something around it... 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
ETC coming to Bittrex

http://prntscr.com/bxq22f

Bittrex is my favorite! Though polo was nice and first time using it. But bittrex doesn't require verification and may have more traders.

The only regret I have about not having a ton of ETH is I didn't get a ton of ETC for "free" like so many others. lol

Don't get me wrong, I profited, but nowhere near as much as so many other people did, and they didn't put in the work to keep the chain alive for days before it got added.

Well, that leads me to another regret. Selling around 200k. lol. It hit 500k briefly. Let's see what happens when it hits more exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 01:51:32 PM
I sent etc to polo and they found eth someone accidentally sent me but better to use one of the tutorials on Reddit

Here is one (I have NOT tried this - use at your own risk):

https://m.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4uo5iz/the_nobrains_trick_to_separate_your_eth_and_etc/

The one I tested - but still use at your own risk ;-) - and you can see the source code of the contract, which is fairly simple:

http://etherscan.io/address/0xaa1a6e3e6ef20068f7f8d8c835d2d22fd5116444#code

I've checked my address on both chains (like in reddit was advised) and I don't have any balance at ETC chain. But I do have ~300ETH in Kraken. Should I ask them? What I suppose to do? Or my ETC now belong to Kraken?

It depends if Kraken decides to award their users with the ETC they rightfully own.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: JUSTDLISK on July 26, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
I am confused as not all Eth was stolen from the DAO. What happens with the rest of the ETH? how would a DAO holder claim the other fraction of ETH classic which was locked up in the DAO.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?



Hmm, when you use this genoil:

https://github.com/nicehash/cpp-ethereum

It works 100% as it's the native implementation for nicehash's stratum.

I'll try Claymore now again, and adapt my stratum to the native claymore protocol too, the problem is just, that it uses Wallet adresses instead of usernames which is a bit uncommon on MPOS pools but i'll get something around it... 

Tried low diff too (3332) but got even lower rate.

But!!!

Isnt this just the reported rate. The miner mines at 125mh, even tho the pool says 55mh.
And it finds share like f**k.. every 5th second or something.

Isnt it the shares that count? I dont get any rejected.. just low reported hashrate, but still finding shares (locally) very fast.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:53:51 PM
Governments can make addresses valueless

http://bitlegal.io/2016/07/24/eu-commission-to-propose-central-database-of-virtual-currency-users/

Will vitalik be forced to fork addresses out? Civil asset forfeiture is a crime against humanity and the only thing cryptos have is being immutable.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TrueAnon on July 26, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
You delete my msg of just "ppl may be burned here!"...really?!?!?

Now we know you guys are scammers! HAHA


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 01:55:23 PM
You delete my msg of just "ppl may be burned here!"...really?!?!?

Now we know you guys are scammers! HAHA

Depends on if you are an ethf shill


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: fuze0000 on July 26, 2016, 02:01:04 PM
Another day in crypto! Go ETC GO!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
I sent etc to polo and they found eth someone accidentally sent me but better to use one of the tutorials on Reddit

Here is one (I have NOT tried this - use at your own risk):

https://m.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4uo5iz/the_nobrains_trick_to_separate_your_eth_and_etc/

The one I tested - but still use at your own risk ;-) - and you can see the source code of the contract, which is fairly simple:

http://etherscan.io/address/0xaa1a6e3e6ef20068f7f8d8c835d2d22fd5116444#code

I've checked my address on both chains (like in reddit was advised) and I don't have any balance at ETC chain. But I do have ~300ETH in Kraken. Should I ask them? What I suppose to do? Or my ETC now belong to Kraken?

It depends if Kraken decides to award their users with the ETC they rightfully own.

I'm sure they will. There were some posts on Reddit or somewhere to that effect, I just can't find it now. So the advice for kirilvvbg would be to sit tight, and maybe google around or contact Kraken support about it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ingiltere on July 26, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
You delete my msg of just "ppl may be burned here!"...really?!?!?

Now we know you guys are scammers! HAHA

Everybody knows who's the scammer here. Vitalik and his friends! Ethereum is going on with Classic mode, Ether-fork worth nothing. Don't support scammers and their forked-coins and go back to Ethereum Classic or you may be burned there. ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 02:08:45 PM
You delete my msg of just "ppl may be burned here!"...really?!?!?

Now we know you guys are scammers! HAHA

Everybody knows who's the scammer here. Vitalik and his friends! Ethereum is going on with Classic mode, Ether-fork worth nothing. Don't support scammers and their forked-coins and go back to Ethereum Classic or you may be burned there. ;)

true true true!!!

I really don't get it why they forked!!!!

It's against crpto rule!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: randayh on July 26, 2016, 02:09:12 PM
Ξpool.io

Payments and Block unlocking paused while difficulty radically adjusts. <EOM>


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: DeCrypterManiac on July 26, 2016, 02:11:23 PM
@ocminer is API enabled on your Pool ? I'd like to compare ETH/ETC and mine what is more profitable automatically


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 02:11:54 PM
Coinbase, banks, vitalik, foundation, forks, premine, presale, not immutable, seizable, no smart contracts. What does ethf have?

Bitcoins foundation was burned to the ground because centralization is not tolerated in crypto.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ingiltere on July 26, 2016, 02:13:08 PM
ETC mining hashrate is going 350 Gh/s to 437 465 Gh/s and rising. Price is still cheap, you can buy for less than 4 mBTC. It should be over 15 mBTC in 24 hours. Eth-fork will match-up ETC's price and gonna die eventually. I guess the match-up price will be 10 mBTC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 02:13:49 PM
https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/07/26/onward_from_the_hard_fork/

Vitalik speaks on ETC

Value is about to fly.

This guy doesn't seem to be very popular on twitter, some of the replies are somewhat... impolite, to put it mildly ;D

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/757389562964545537

When paycoin was foaming at the mouth thinking they'd beat bitcoin i joined in. When ethf started foaming also and looked like gawtards and losing immutability, I declared war. Even Homero didn't pull a centralized coin like ethf or onecoin. Or maybe he was just too dumb.

Funny you should say that - I was thinking of Garza when I looked at Vitalik's twitter above. Garza was getting similarly ridiculed when the Paycoin "empire" started to collapse and he was still tweeting arrogance and ignorance.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: chivaki on July 26, 2016, 02:14:34 PM
So all pools are dossed ??  >:(


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: knobson on July 26, 2016, 02:15:47 PM
As the ETH community ignores ETC, coin supply will go down and price will go up. Hashrate will fluctuate accordingly. No surprise.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: risinhigher on July 26, 2016, 02:16:57 PM
The only people who win here

1, The DAO THIEF
2. THE DAO THIEF

and
3.THE DAO THIEF


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 02:17:21 PM
So all pools are dossed ??  >:(

No problem on https://etc.suprnova.cc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: DM0000 on July 26, 2016, 02:21:25 PM
I really like how ETC operates! This is what crypto is all about!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
So all pools are dossed ??  >:(

No problems for me on epool.

I couldn't connect to suprnova for some reason.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 02:23:03 PM
The only people who win here

1, The DAO THIEF
2. THE DAO THIEF

and
3.THE DAO THIEF

Well the DAO thief can look me up on Twitter and find my donation address. lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 02:23:46 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?



Hmm, when you use this genoil:

https://github.com/nicehash/cpp-ethereum

It works 100% as it's the native implementation for nicehash's stratum.

I'll try Claymore now again, and adapt my stratum to the native claymore protocol too, the problem is just, that it uses Wallet adresses instead of usernames which is a bit uncommon on MPOS pools but i'll get something around it... 

Tried low diff too (3332) but got even lower rate.

But!!!

Isnt this just the reported rate. The miner mines at 125mh, even tho the pool says 55mh.
And it finds share like f**k.. every 5th second or something.

Isnt it the shares that count? I dont get any rejected.. just low reported hashrate, but still finding shares (locally) very fast.



Yes, it's the share that count but your hashrate should also match.

For me my Rig which was mining with this:

https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/110

(with -SP 2)

And is now mining with Claymore has no problems (4 x 280x) and the hashrate matches.

Even when I test-rent at nicehash and point it to the dedicated nicehash port, my hashrate matches the one displayed at nicehash's site.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Maicol792 on July 26, 2016, 02:23:57 PM
hello, where i can create one ETC wallet address? thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: denverb on July 26, 2016, 02:26:23 PM
hello, where i can create one ETC wallet address? thanks

Go to normal Mist download and select "NO" after sync.

If you have Windows

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 02:29:20 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?



Hmm, when you use this genoil:

https://github.com/nicehash/cpp-ethereum

It works 100% as it's the native implementation for nicehash's stratum.

I'll try Claymore now again, and adapt my stratum to the native claymore protocol too, the problem is just, that it uses Wallet adresses instead of usernames which is a bit uncommon on MPOS pools but i'll get something around it... 

Tried low diff too (3332) but got even lower rate.

But!!!

Isnt this just the reported rate. The miner mines at 125mh, even tho the pool says 55mh.
And it finds share like f**k.. every 5th second or something.

Isnt it the shares that count? I dont get any rejected.. just low reported hashrate, but still finding shares (locally) very fast.



Yes, it's the share that count but your hashrate should also match.

For me my Rig which was mining with this:

https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/110

(with -SP 2)

And is now mining with Claymore has no problems (4 x 280x) and the hashrate matches.

Even when I test-rent at nicehash and point it to the dedicated nicehash port, my hashrate matches the one displayed at nicehash's site.

Genoils works nicely. The pool even reports higher hashrate than the miner.
Claymores still very low... but the shares fly by.

Miner 3 is R9 380s
Miner 5 has R9 390s


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: firmas on July 26, 2016, 02:35:27 PM
can i use my old eth addr? it is about 3 months  old


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 02:36:28 PM
can i use my old eth addr? it is about 3 months  old

The address should be fine but you will need to install the proper fork of the wallet to actually see the coins. You'll need your private key and whatnot.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hatshepsut93 on July 26, 2016, 02:39:21 PM
Sorry if it was already asked, but is ETC planning to go PoS or will stay PoW forever?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 02:42:02 PM
can i use my old eth addr? it is about 3 months  old

Does it have any ETH in it? Make sure to do a split:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15715049#msg15715049

And then use new addresses on separate chains. Do NOT keep using old pre-fork addresses on either chain unless you fully understand and accept the consequences of potential replays.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: DM0000 on July 26, 2016, 02:43:02 PM
The only people who win here

1, The DAO THIEF
2. THE DAO THIEF

and
3.THE DAO THIEF
How much did the dao hacker/thief walk away with?
Well at the very least the The Dao hacker/thief actions is one of the reasons for ETC!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 26, 2016, 02:43:25 PM
i heard the walls are gona move up...no more cheap etc, best buy asap

told y'all lol
now heres comes.....  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 02:44:02 PM
Sorry if it was already asked, but is ETC planning to go PoS or will stay PoW forever?

I don't think any decision has been made yet and PoS for Ethereum doesn't even exist. "Forever" is a long time though. Stay tuned.

i heard the walls are gona move up...no more cheap etc, best buy asap

told y'all lol
now heres comes.....  ;D

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I'm still waiting for your numbers on how ETC is being mined at a loss.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
Pump her tits is still holding his ETH bag LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: asnghost on July 26, 2016, 02:59:10 PM
now also on https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/ethereumclassic


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 03:01:32 PM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I'm still waiting for your numbers on how ETC is being mined at a loss.

lol u r sooo stupid.... ;)   

Indeed, that' why I'm asking the smart guy. Please enlighten us and show the numbers proving the massive conspiracy of ETC being mined at a loss.

Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Unless of course you're talking out of your ass and don't have the numbers. In which case feel free to continue trolling with inane "lols" and other assorted bullshit.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 26, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
Pump her tits is still holding his ETH bag LOL
+ his free etc bag + fresh btc from here lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 26, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
So all pools are dossed ??  >:(

No problem on https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: firmas on July 26, 2016, 03:04:57 PM
can i use my old eth addr? it is about 3 months  old

Does it have any ETH in it? Make sure to do a split:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15715049#msg15715049

And then use new addresses on separate chains. Do NOT keep using old pre-fork addresses on either chain unless you fully understand and accept the consequences of potential replays.

i dont have any ether on this account but also i cant see any etc on this addr,   so i will delete all ethereum files from my pc and i will install new one ? i didnt use fork on my pc before


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: denverb on July 26, 2016, 03:06:28 PM
can i use my old eth addr? it is about 3 months  old

Create a new address though before sending and receiving from an exchange. ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 03:08:21 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?



Hmm, when you use this genoil:

https://github.com/nicehash/cpp-ethereum

It works 100% as it's the native implementation for nicehash's stratum.

I'll try Claymore now again, and adapt my stratum to the native claymore protocol too, the problem is just, that it uses Wallet adresses instead of usernames which is a bit uncommon on MPOS pools but i'll get something around it... 

Tried low diff too (3332) but got even lower rate.

But!!!

Isnt this just the reported rate. The miner mines at 125mh, even tho the pool says 55mh.
And it finds share like f**k.. every 5th second or something.

Isnt it the shares that count? I dont get any rejected.. just low reported hashrate, but still finding shares (locally) very fast.



Yes, it's the share that count but your hashrate should also match.

For me my Rig which was mining with this:

https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/110

(with -SP 2)

And is now mining with Claymore has no problems (4 x 280x) and the hashrate matches.

Even when I test-rent at nicehash and point it to the dedicated nicehash port, my hashrate matches the one displayed at nicehash's site.

Genoils works nicely. The pool even reports higher hashrate than the miner.
Claymores still very low... but the shares fly by.

Miner 3 is R9 380s
Miner 5 has R9 390s


Ah, I think I found the problem, should be ok now


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 03:14:20 PM
can i use my old eth addr? it is about 3 months  old

Does it have any ETH in it? Make sure to do a split:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.msg15715049#msg15715049

And then use new addresses on separate chains. Do NOT keep using old pre-fork addresses on either chain unless you fully understand and accept the consequences of potential replays.

i dont have any ether on this account but also i cant see any etc on this addr,   so i will delete all ethereum files from my pc and i will install new one ? i didnt use fork on my pc before

Yes, if you don't have any coins just start fresh with a new install and a new address.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: revelacaogr on July 26, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
What happened with Ethereum $ETH and Ethereum Classic $ETC?


https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@whalepanda/what-happened-with-ethereum-usdeth-and-ethereum-classic-usdetc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
Ethf running out of dumps, hodl

How wrong they were

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/1CnE7Mi.png

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/WP4alZy.png


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 03:24:24 PM
I just realized it's already possible to mine with latest Claymore on Suprnova's Nicehash Port..


./ethdcrminer64 -epool etc-eu.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


Is there any disadvantage of using it like this ? Seems to work fine for me...

Hmm, earlier there were some reports that "extranonce.subscribe disabled", when mining with claymore on nicehash, reduced speed.


Edit:
Gotta walk the dog.. but i can put some rigs to test with claymores.

Should i mine on the nicehash settings or regular?

Regular won't work, but Nicehash Mode should work fine.. (-esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1)


Seems ok.

I got this line on of the miners. But only once.. and its finding shares right after. So i guess its ok. Ill watch it for  while to compare reported and actual hashrate.

ETH: Received error: {"id":4,"result":null,"error":[21,"jobnotfound"]}
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:34 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4)
ETH: Share accepted (62 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:36 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 6)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!
ETH: 07/26/16-14:52:39 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 3)
ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)!


Update.

@ ocminer
I noticed a "problem"

Im not sure if its the claymore miner or the nicehasd stratum.
But the hashrate is 40-50% lower there.

Example pic.
http://imgur.com/a/g4p97

Miner 1 = genoils
Miner 3&5 = claymores

They should all be 110-130
As u can see the claymores are way lower.


Should i test the low diff?



Hmm, when you use this genoil:

https://github.com/nicehash/cpp-ethereum

It works 100% as it's the native implementation for nicehash's stratum.

I'll try Claymore now again, and adapt my stratum to the native claymore protocol too, the problem is just, that it uses Wallet adresses instead of usernames which is a bit uncommon on MPOS pools but i'll get something around it...  

Tried low diff too (3332) but got even lower rate.

But!!!

Isnt this just the reported rate. The miner mines at 125mh, even tho the pool says 55mh.
And it finds share like f**k.. every 5th second or something.

Isnt it the shares that count? I dont get any rejected.. just low reported hashrate, but still finding shares (locally) very fast.



Yes, it's the share that count but your hashrate should also match.

For me my Rig which was mining with this:

https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/110

(with -SP 2)

And is now mining with Claymore has no problems (4 x 280x) and the hashrate matches.

Even when I test-rent at nicehash and point it to the dedicated nicehash port, my hashrate matches the one displayed at nicehash's site.

Genoils works nicely. The pool even reports higher hashrate than the miner.
Claymores still very low... but the shares fly by.

Miner 3 is R9 380s
Miner 5 has R9 390s


Ah, I think I found the problem, should be ok now


3334 works nicely now.

Retrying claymore.


Edit:

Claymore good too!  (port 3333)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 26, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
Ethf running out of dumps, hodl
This is the most beautiful retaliation I have ever seen! The Ethereum Foundation are losing control of their ecosystem!! They completely destroyed their first principles by hard forking for a bailout, and now the exchanges and old time Bitcoiners, and even the miners are going to make them pay.

It bears repeating: The immutability of the blockchain is what gives it value. All trust follows from that.  ETC is on the right path.  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 03:32:48 PM
Ethf running out of dumps, hodl
This is the most beautiful retaliation I have ever seen! The Ethereum Foundation are losing control of their ecosystem!! They completely destroyed their first principles by hard forking for a bailout, and now the exchanges and old time Bitcoiners, and even the miners are going to make them pay.

It bears repeating: The immutability of the blockchain is what gives it value. All trust follows from that.  ETC is on the right path.  8)



Ppl should really not jump the gun here.


Tomorrow or next week a lot of people are gonna look dumb as fuck.
The question is who.




Tip: Wait.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 26, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
Ethf running out of dumps, hodl
This is the most beautiful retaliation I have ever seen! The Ethereum Foundation are losing control of their ecosystem!! They completely destroyed their first principles by hard forking for a bailout, and now the exchanges and old time Bitcoiners, and even the miners are going to make them pay.

It bears repeating: The immutability of the blockchain is what gives it value. All trust follows from that.  ETC is on the right path.  8)



Ppl should really not jump the gun here.


Tomorrow or next week a lot of people are gonna look dumb as fuck.
The question is who.




Tip: Wait.
Agreed. By any and all means, hedge your bets. Pre-bailout ETH holders should probably do nothing, seeing as they have both ETH and ETC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: E1337 on July 26, 2016, 03:45:37 PM
Thank you. ETC made me richer  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
Still holding, remember last night was .0008


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: shimlbit on July 26, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
Still holding, remember last night was .0008

and yesterday buy support 1k btc now 5600 btc


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 03:51:50 PM
I get lots of PM's asking for Claymore, use:

ethdcrminer64 -epool etc.suprnova.cc:3333 -ewal suprnova.1 -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -allcoins 1


replace suprnova.1 with your username/worker


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 26, 2016, 04:03:57 PM
It just occurred to me that NONE of the former TheDAO investors received any ETC. Hmm, the panic buying will likely continue.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: mitache365 on July 26, 2016, 04:04:25 PM
Still holding, remember last night was .0008

0.01 maybe theese days!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Nefritox on July 26, 2016, 04:05:35 PM
x millions dolars worth stealed by unknown robber.
Ethereum logic: Let's fork dolar!  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 26, 2016, 04:06:39 PM
ETC / CNY Trading Pair Listing Announcement (https://yunbi.com/bulletins/2016-07-26%20Announcement)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 04:10:27 PM
It just occurred to me that NONE of the former TheDAO investors received any ETC. Hmm, the panic buying will likely continue.  

Yup I'm happy to see non dao users are automatically hedged since they didn't cause this, hopefully they keep etc to stay hedged


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: DM0000 on July 26, 2016, 04:19:57 PM
Another day in crypto!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 04:27:48 PM
So to mine to the Ethereum Wallet specified in this post, I can point the mining address as the address I see labeled as "Account 1"?, NOT the etherbase account correct?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 26, 2016, 04:28:42 PM
From my perspective, none of this matters. This coin seems like a great candidate for a pump by scavenging off ETH fomo and offering "cheap" ETH to those who missed out on the bubble. Probably more dumpage yet to come, but to hastily dismiss this coin seems unwise.
i hope this pumps so hard...but i got a feeling it will be skilled traders trading on a permanent downtrend that will take all the btc and hold the etc at the same time...then once its real cheap it will go back to current price...rinse repeat until coin dies

Yefi: 1
MrPumperitis: 0

;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 04:29:25 PM
Thats would be nice!

When chinese guys wake up, prob etc will get a dumb, but, after this all sell wall gona be in flor.

Tomorow we will see etc pass galaxy!

ETC = Dead coin (astronaut zombie coin!)



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: vectisitch on July 26, 2016, 04:33:51 PM
hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 04:34:28 PM
24h ETC volume on Poloniex breached 100k BTC (that's 60-something million USD).

Not sure what's the all-time record but this the highest I've ever seen.

hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???

Keep in mind that the exchange rate is volatile, and so is the difficulty. This calculator seems fairly accurate:

http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_ethereum%20classic

But make sure to double check the values with the pools/exchanges/block explorers.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
Is the address I see under "Account1" in the ethereum wallet one I can mine to? I'm talking that address, NOT the etherbase one it displays.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 04:37:49 PM
Someone can help me?

How i can mine etc in minergate with my 9600gt?

I know, is too low, but i had this card away, and i want use that!

help me pls


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
 Can anyone tell me how much did poliniex won from fees?
I'm not interested in about this much as I can do that myself!

I would like to know how much they made from sells and from buys as they make ETC and BTC

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: FgTeamBR on July 26, 2016, 04:47:20 PM


Yefi: 1
MrPumperitis: 0

;)

Where is my friend @MrPumperitis

Missed with hashrate and eths.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Cheena on July 26, 2016, 04:49:42 PM
Is anyone having issues with ethpool.io, I see a blank page but my miners are hashing away


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 26, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
24h ETC volume on Poloniex breached 100k BTC (that's 60-something million USD).

Not sure what's the all-time record but this the highest I've ever seen.

Pretty sure it's the highest too. Not even the dump from the DAO caused this much volume.  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 04:54:14 PM
Someone can help me?

How i can mine etc in minergate with my 9600gt?

I know, is too low, but i had this card away, and i want use that!

help me pls

Miner gate looks easy


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 04:55:15 PM
Record breaking launch! Volume: 44,000,000 ETC, 140,000 BTC!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 26, 2016, 04:55:46 PM
Is anyone having issues with ethpool.io, I see a blank page but my miners are hashing away

You can mine on other pools , just check the OP for the pools list :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 26, 2016, 04:57:25 PM
hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???
What to buy to mine etc gtx 1080 or radeon r9 390x?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 26, 2016, 04:59:04 PM
hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???
What to buy to mine etc gtx 1080 or radeon r9 390x?

Don't mine if you haven't before


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 05:00:52 PM
Someone can help me?

How i can mine etc in minergate with my 9600gt?

I know, is too low, but i had this card away, and i want use that!

help me pls

Miner gate looks easy

ill take a look


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: szachta on July 26, 2016, 05:06:35 PM
hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???
What to buy to mine etc gtx 1080 or radeon r9 390x?

Don't mine if you haven't before
Why not mine,i have gpu in warranty,idont change any parapametrs gpu.I have 5 years gwaranty.I now i have gtx 750ti but even this is profit.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: paulc010 on July 26, 2016, 05:11:57 PM
Is anyone having issues with ethpool.io, I see a blank page but my miners are hashing away

They're not accepting any new miners but your stats page should work (but not the home page).


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: vectisitch on July 26, 2016, 05:22:52 PM
hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???
What to buy to mine etc gtx 1080 or radeon r9 390x?

Don't mine if you haven't before
Why not mine,i have gpu in warranty,idont change any parapametrs gpu.I have 5 years gwaranty.I now i have gtx 750ti but even this is profit.

my preference is the 7970 or 280x. although the 290(non x) gives 30 mh/s


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: starsnshamrocks on July 26, 2016, 05:23:38 PM
Do know if the ETC balances were granted to ETH holders on poloniex, who were lending all of the coins when the "gift" was sent out?
I guess that happened to me.

I've asked the Poloniex support about my ETH placed in lending at the fork time and got the answer:

"When you loan funds, you forfeit possession and control to a borrower in exchange for a debt owed to you. If your funds were on loan when the fork occurred, whoever was in possession of them at that time received the ETC. This may have been the borrower, or it may have been another trader the borrower sold the ETH to. A trader buying from the borrower may even have withdrawn that ETH from Poloniex before the hard fork."

Thank you basyaru! That is a true pitty - that happened to me too.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
someone know about bittrex?

Etc just hit trex or is in a few hours?

this gonna pump so hard etc!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Judge-Dredd on July 26, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
My nicehash order on suprnova is showing as dead. Mistake on my end?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: DM0000 on July 26, 2016, 05:48:36 PM
Well ETC is going to pay my bills today!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: LeChuckDE on July 26, 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Well ETC is going to pay my bills today!

got 100 ETC at 0.00066 BTC nice profit, but will hold until reached 0.01 BTC...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: DM0000 on July 26, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
Well ETC is going to pay my bills today!

got 100 ETC at 0.00066 BTC nice profit, but will hold until reached 0.01 BTC...
Congrats!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 06:02:58 PM
hmmm, giving this a go. i have roughly 165mh/s and on suprnova it's saying i should get around 10 etc . the minergate calc says i should get 14 etc???
What to buy to mine etc gtx 1080 or radeon r9 390x?

R9 380 is quite cheap and does 20 MH/s but I would suggest not to invest in hardware just because ETC is profitable now. Do it only if you have a long term plan on mining.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitcoinuserz on July 26, 2016, 06:08:55 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/17yx1d.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 26, 2016, 06:11:23 PM
In order for ETC to remain completely immutable it should ride straight into the difficulty bomb  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 06:13:21 PM
W000t


https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ETC

Suddenly i have a ton of ETC    ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: promomei on July 26, 2016, 06:14:48 PM
GUY LOOK PLZ

https://imgur.com/a/DHexx#4I1WrPY


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 26, 2016, 06:39:45 PM
In order for ETC to remain completely immutable it should ride straight into the difficulty bomb  :)

LOL!
I bet ETC will update to continue PoW. Can't do PoS with TheDAO attacker at the helm.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 06:42:56 PM
I think it is starting to look realistic that ETH and ETC will trade places... ETC is going to be the big dog...  The other guys are just going to be "forked up"...  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Facira on July 26, 2016, 06:46:04 PM
What is wrong with http://ethc.epool.io/ ??? can't load???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 06:47:40 PM

Prices on bittrex is way higher than polo now


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Piston Honda on July 26, 2016, 06:47:44 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 06:49:37 PM
GUY LOOK PLZ

https://imgur.com/a/DHexx#4I1WrPY

Interesting, so they not only clearly are attacking ETC, but they have started their own internal purge of anyone they suspect might be favoring ETC.  Blood in the streets...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 07:09:03 PM
how mane time take to transfer etc?

Im make a transfer minutes ago, but dont appear confirmations.

Blockchain?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 26, 2016, 07:10:45 PM
Any reliable pools out there?

Suprnova doesn't support Stratum yet
Nanopool has 10000 ms pings
ethpool.io is constantely being DDOS


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 07:12:56 PM
We are pleased to announce that Coinbase has added support for Ethereum.
With support for Ethereum on Coinbase, consumers can now easily and securely trade, send, and store Ether. To get started, visit the “Trade” page on coinbase.com or tap on the “Buy” or “Sell” options on our iOS and Android apps.
Of course, all our services will continue to support bitcoin and we look forward to adding additional digital currencies in the future.
Kind regards,
The Coinbase Team


so eth got listed on coinbase to counterbalance the volume on polo? :))))

hahahahaha what a good joke! :)))))


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 07:14:25 PM
Any reliable pools out there?

Suprnova doesn't support Stratum yet
Nanopool has 10000 ms pings
ethpool.io is constantely being DDOS

I think supernova has something figured out.  He posted a little while ago about it.  I haven't had a chance to try it yet.  The others are in various states of "mess".  Had problems over night with nanopool and no response from them and was not given credit for over 6 hours of mining and problems with connectivity.  Been using coin-miners, but not getting the hash rates I expect.  So I will try Suprnova tonight.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 26, 2016, 07:16:42 PM
We are pleased to announce that Coinbase has added support for Ethereum.
With support for Ethereum on Coinbase, consumers can now easily and securely trade, send, and store Ether. To get started, visit the “Trade” page on coinbase.com or tap on the “Buy” or “Sell” options on our iOS and Android apps.
Of course, all our services will continue to support bitcoin and we look forward to adding additional digital currencies in the future.
Kind regards,
The Coinbase Team


so eth got listed on coinbase to counterbalance the volume on polo? :))))

hahahahaha what a good joke! :)))))


Coinbase consistently pumping ETH after HF while Polo does ninja ETC addition and now has greater ETC volume than ETH.  Maybe it will become ETC exchanges vs ETH exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 07:17:02 PM
Stratum is fully supported on stratum, just check the header of the pool or even the getting started pages...

You can use nicehash, claymore, genoil...  Let me know if you need to mine with a client that is not yet supported


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: borzalom on July 26, 2016, 07:18:24 PM
Alternative Ethereum Discussion Board http://aedb.eu/


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 07:19:35 PM
All I can say is if you see ETH break down through the .014-.015 btc it is going to be a long ride down... The rats fleeing the sinking forked ship are going to cause a massive explosion in ETC.  All I can say is have your life boats ready cause I think it is gonna happen and possibly sooner than anyone expects!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Marvell1 on July 26, 2016, 07:33:49 PM
All I can say is if you see ETH break down through the .014-.015 btc it is going to be a long ride down... The rats fleeing the sinking forked ship are going to cause a massive explosion in ETC.  All I can say is have your life boats ready cause I think it is gonna happen and possibly sooner than anyone expects!

I think this will happen but it will be a temporary deal, the foundation will probbaly fork again to separate the networks and then when Auger and other working DAPS are released on the forked network we will see another value transfer.  For now i sold 60% for my eth and moving my portfolio into ETC as well as my 2GH hash rate


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: serje on July 26, 2016, 07:41:26 PM
We are pleased to announce that Coinbase has added support for Ethereum.
With support for Ethereum on Coinbase, consumers can now easily and securely trade, send, and store Ether. To get started, visit the “Trade” page on coinbase.com or tap on the “Buy” or “Sell” options on our iOS and Android apps.
Of course, all our services will continue to support bitcoin and we look forward to adding additional digital currencies in the future.
Kind regards,
The Coinbase Team


so eth got listed on coinbase to counterbalance the volume on polo? :))))

hahahahaha what a good joke! :)))))


Coinbase consistently pumping ETH after HF while Polo does ninja ETC addition and now has greater ETC volume than ETH.  Maybe it will become ETC exchanges vs ETH exchanges.

fuck this shit ... i mean coinbase ...


https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/758011228304257024

kraken is going for ETC!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bigs21024 on July 26, 2016, 07:45:47 PM
i will be riding this wave


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: hashmaster1 on July 26, 2016, 07:45:56 PM
This is great new coin to mine im running 2 x 7970 getting 46.15 mh/s b nice to see how much i make in 24 hours.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
Looks like they are not going to admit they were wrong until they have their faces rubbed in it...

http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-vitalik-buterin-classic-blockchain/ (http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-vitalik-buterin-classic-blockchain/)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 26, 2016, 08:08:20 PM
This is great new coin to mine im running 2 x 7970 getting 46.15 mh/s b nice to see how much i make in 24 hours.

There is no way you are getting 46.15mh/s with 2x7970. Maybe 36.15mhs


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: riskyfire on July 26, 2016, 08:08:52 PM
Is there a blockchain source / bootstrap file I can download for classic?
My wallet is taking forever to sync.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Atomjuice on July 26, 2016, 08:09:57 PM
It's all over but the hymns, for the forked eth.... :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: HinnomTX on July 26, 2016, 08:17:09 PM
We are pleased to announce that Coinbase has added support for Ethereum.
With support for Ethereum on Coinbase, consumers can now easily and securely trade, send, and store Ether. To get started, visit the “Trade” page on coinbase.com or tap on the “Buy” or “Sell” options on our iOS and Android apps.
Of course, all our services will continue to support bitcoin and we look forward to adding additional digital currencies in the future.
Kind regards,
The Coinbase Team


so eth got listed on coinbase to counterbalance the volume on polo? :))))

hahahahaha what a good joke! :)))))


Coinbase consistently pumping ETH after HF while Polo does ninja ETC addition and now has greater ETC volume than ETH.  Maybe it will become ETC exchanges vs ETH exchanges.

fuck this shit ... i mean coinbase ...


https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/758011228304257024

kraken is going for ETC!!!!
All existing ETH exchanges are obligated to deliver the new/original ETC asset to their clients. It's like a public company spinoff. Expect a LOT more exchanges to follow suit (basically all of them).
Coinbase is in an unusual position since they had no ETH clients until today, so they don't need to support ETC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TrueAnon on July 26, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/66675929.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Atomjuice on July 26, 2016, 08:19:40 PM
....and way over yonder..in the faded distance...what is that sound from the forked eth crowd?...is that an axe I hear grinding in the background??


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: MysterE on July 26, 2016, 08:21:13 PM
I asked this on ETH thread but I will ask it here as well:

If you had ETH in a wallet before the fork and took a copy,
used one on the fork and the other on non-fork you would
get the same amount of ETC keeping your ETH on different
wallets, yes/no?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
All I can say is if you see ETH break down through the .014-.015 btc it is going to be a long ride down... The rats fleeing the sinking forked ship are going to cause a massive explosion in ETC.  All I can say is have your life boats ready cause I think it is gonna happen and possibly sooner than anyone expects!

I think this will happen but it will be a temporary deal, the foundation will probbaly fork again to separate the networks and then when Auger and other working DAPS are released on the forked network we will see another value transfer.  For now i sold 60% for my eth and moving my portfolio into ETC as well as my 2GH hash rate

Looks to me like Vitalik basically said that today that they will fork again... I don't know if that was intended to be a threat or just how he intended for people to take it.  Funny thing is the fork bailed him and his buddies out.  The ETC launch they get a TON more coin and are even richer now.  No matter how this shakes out they walk away FATTER CATS.  It is really sad.  They bailed themselves out and still get a windfall from ETC.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 26, 2016, 08:24:59 PM
....and way over yonder..in the faded distance...what is that sound from the forked eth crowd?...is that an axe I hear grinding in the background??


As said earlier.. this is really early to say anything.

ETH still has 500% higher pricing, and a muuuuuch safer network.

Also, the hacker has like 13% or more of the total supply. Very much depending on him.
Also, people are noticing now that they have a ton of ETC.. Very much depending on them.


There are 80ish million ETC out there somewhere... which is like 8000% more than the total ETC for sale on polo/bt.


This could be a 1 day adventure... or a long journey.



Some people are going to look REALLY REALLY fucking dumb after this.
The question is ... who.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 08:33:36 PM
....and way over yonder..in the faded distance...what is that sound from the forked eth crowd?...is that an axe I hear grinding in the background??


As said earlier.. this is really early to say anything.

ETH still has 500% higher pricing, and a muuuuuch safer network.

Also, the hacker has like 13% or more of the total supply. Very much depending on him.
Also, people are noticing now that they have a ton of ETC.. Very much depending on them.


There are 80ish million ETC out there somewhere... which is like 8000% more than the total ETC for sale on polo/bt.


This could be a 1 day adventure... or a long journey.



Some people are going to look REALLY REALLY fucking dumb after this.
The question is ... who.

I ask the question... Will justice be served?  Will we allow Ethereum to be "managed" and "centralized" for the benefit of the few?  We are voting right now with our wallets, and miners... 

If ETH wins well those of us mining won't be profitable for much longer at the rate of diff increases so it won't matter.  Most of us will be out in a couple of months anyway at the current rate of diff. 

If ETC wins this battle for hearts, minds, wallets, and miners then almost anything can happen next... 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: monsanto on July 26, 2016, 08:34:25 PM
All I can say is if you see ETH break down through the .014-.015 btc it is going to be a long ride down... The rats fleeing the sinking forked ship are going to cause a massive explosion in ETC.  All I can say is have your life boats ready cause I think it is gonna happen and possibly sooner than anyone expects!

I think this will happen but it will be a temporary deal, the foundation will probbaly fork again to separate the networks and then when Auger and other working DAPS are released on the forked network we will see another value transfer.  For now i sold 60% for my eth and moving my portfolio into ETC as well as my 2GH hash rate

Looks to me like Vitalik basically said that today that they will fork again... I don't know if that was intended to be a threat or just how he intended for people to take it.  Funny thing is the fork bailed him and his buddies out.  The ETC launch they get a TON more coin and are even richer now.  No matter how this shakes out they walk away FATTER CATS.  It is really sad.  They bailed themselves out and still get a windfall from ETC.  

Well they are richer in ETC, but since they would have had to be holding ETH at fork to have said ETC, they would have taken significant losses on their ETH holdings.  The only way they are getting a "windfall" is if ETC price + ETH price is greater than what ETH price would have been had ETC never happened, or if they dump their ETC and then ETH price recovers.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
i just wait chinese dump to buy more etc!

carefull, they ill get ur profit in a few hours.
then is time to buy again!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 08:42:44 PM
I asked this on ETH thread but I will ask it here as well:

If you had ETH in a wallet before the fork and took a copy,
used one on the fork and the other on non-fork you would
get the same amount of ETC keeping your ETH on different
wallets, yes/no?


Not sure if I understand that question correctly but you will have the same number of ETC tokens as the number of ETH tokens before the fork. Just make sure you DON'T send coins out from any of the pre-fork addresses. Split the coins and use new addresses.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Lazarus2016 on July 26, 2016, 08:43:13 PM
This one is really moving like crazy.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cryptodv on July 26, 2016, 08:45:58 PM
I'll wait till the Chinese wake up to buy some more Etc....


BTW PEOPLE....PICK YOUR POISON!  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Arvesen on July 26, 2016, 08:48:29 PM
bitpop is my hero, He wrote about ETC pre-sale and He gave us a chance to buy lower befor price goes up! Thanx a lot,  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: VenMiner on July 26, 2016, 08:53:44 PM
feel so good, i bought yesterday for 90k....   8)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 09:13:25 PM
....and way over yonder..in the faded distance...what is that sound from the forked eth crowd?...is that an axe I hear grinding in the background??


As said earlier.. this is really early to say anything.

ETH still has 500% higher pricing, and a muuuuuch safer network.

Also, the hacker has like 13% or more of the total supply. Very much depending on him.
Also, people are noticing now that they have a ton of ETC.. Very much depending on them.


There are 80ish million ETC out there somewhere... which is like 8000% more than the total ETC for sale on polo/bt.


This could be a 1 day adventure... or a long journey.



Some people are going to look REALLY REALLY fucking dumb after this.
The question is ... who.


Sadly this will likely be a long journey, which means longer time before there is healing and recovery for Ethereum.  I don't think there is going to be a "winner" when it is all said an done.  I can only hope for a speedy and decisive move that puts this on a path to healing sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: vectisitch on July 26, 2016, 09:22:54 PM
well at me hash rate of 165 mh it looks like ill make around 6 etc for 24 hours on suprnova. that cant be right?????


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Beachguy on July 26, 2016, 09:24:11 PM
My head is starting to spin...I'm a small gpu miner and was using my original basic ehtereum wallet from git hub.
First, as advised on the ethereum forum I changed from wallet version 6_1 to 8_1 to follow the fork (even though I didn't like it) coins I have on bittrex are showing as ethereum classic. I've shut my mining rig down from ethermine.org since I wasn't sure what it's mining.
I'm inclined to put things back like they were but tbh...I don't know wtf to do.

To make matters worse.....the devs at yocoin are trying to use the ethereum chain (the forked one I think) to run their yocoin/ethereum token from.
I managed to sell alot of what I had in the old scrypt yocoin before they went haywire but still have a fair amount.
If I swap to the new forked eth/yocoin token.....what do I do with it.

Stanley....Here's a another FINE mess you've gotten us into.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: wendy107th on July 26, 2016, 09:36:27 PM
do you guys think etc will surpass the ETH price later? i'll  be buying if your advices will convince me. :)
yes
BTC no DEV
ETHC NO DEV
al other coins DEV
ETHC NEW BTC  ;)
HOLD THIS 1

Love this

DLISK DEV and cheap BUY THAT ONE.
told you and its not gonna stop  ;)
and it wil make me A lot of money  ;) don't sell hold it


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ep1989 on July 26, 2016, 09:39:39 PM
hi everybody
anybody can tell me why did i have json-rps probleme my settings are ethminer.exe -F uk1.epool.io:8888/0xb5dfbf2b889350a89dd2927d5009b3a6a5bbd1ca -G im (im in eu so im sure the ip of the pool is correct and i know json-rpc problem are from probleme with adresse so i don't understant why that didn't work that's why i come to you guys to help me to set it correctly and sorry for my bad english its not my main language


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adaseb on July 26, 2016, 09:41:26 PM
....and way over yonder..in the faded distance...what is that sound from the forked eth crowd?...is that an axe I hear grinding in the background??


As said earlier.. this is really early to say anything.

ETH still has 500% higher pricing, and a muuuuuch safer network.

Also, the hacker has like 13% or more of the total supply. Very much depending on him.
Also, people are noticing now that they have a ton of ETC.. Very much depending on them.


There are 80ish million ETC out there somewhere... which is like 8000% more than the total ETC for sale on polo/bt.


This could be a 1 day adventure... or a long journey.



Some people are going to look REALLY REALLY fucking dumb after this.
The question is ... who.

Yeah but many are suspecting that China is buying ETC. And $50,000,000 of the stolen funds is nothing to the Chinese. They will have no problem absorbing all that dumping. BTC has a market cap of $10 billion and $50 million is nothing.


ETC was suppose to crash but didn't , somebody filthy rich out there must of been buying and still is.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: yefi on July 26, 2016, 10:10:23 PM
As said earlier.. this is really early to say anything.

ETH still has 500% higher pricing, and a muuuuuch safer network.

Also, the hacker has like 13% or more of the total supply. Very much depending on him.
Also, people are noticing now that they have a ton of ETC.. Very much depending on them.


There are 80ish million ETC out there somewhere... which is like 8000% more than the total ETC for sale on polo/bt.


This could be a 1 day adventure... or a long journey.



Some people are going to look REALLY REALLY fucking dumb after this.
The question is ... who.


The DarkDAO held 3.6M ETH which is about 4.4% of supply, ETH's price is about 400% more, and total ETC is about 5,000% of the ask side on Polo, compared to 12,500% for ETH.

Btw, volume is way more important than the orderbook - and there's been nearly 50M ETC traded today on Polo.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 26, 2016, 10:17:49 PM
Yefi, what u think:
When chineses guys come to trade hard, this will dump or pump?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pjr77 on July 26, 2016, 10:31:10 PM
Nanopool estimate earnings negative ? No shares last 6 hours ? No reply to emails ? very disappointing better stay away from them


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: daboehla on July 26, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
For Etc hashrate decentralisation I set up a pool:
1% Fee, High Share Diff(4G), Fast Node i7 & Gbit.
All Etc miners are welcome Wink
Website: www.ethteam.com
Stratum: etc.ethteam.com:8008


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 10:49:38 PM
Nanopool estimate earnings negative ? No shares last 6 hours ? No reply to emails ? very disappointing better stay away from them

Yes, I had them just stop crediting me last night about 1am, and when I looked this morning my miners were still hashing... but I was not earning any ETC.  Something seriously broken at nanopool.  And no responses to emails at all. 

I like that Suprnova is here and responding to requests and issues, so I will give that a try tonight. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 26, 2016, 10:52:36 PM
awful quiet on the "other thread"   gee i wonder why?   :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: loveyouforever on July 26, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
I deposited some ETC to my Poloniex account with non-forked 0.8.1 wallet, but it shows successful in wallet but can't see them in polo, how to track this issue? Is there something wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: cloverme on July 26, 2016, 11:06:14 PM
This has the feel of a mining pump and dump to it. Seems like an awful way that will dilute value and cause confusion for Eth.  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Jacques21 on July 26, 2016, 11:07:46 PM
Fix your shit nanopool  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Jacques21 on July 26, 2016, 11:10:18 PM
For Etc hashrate decentralisation I set up a pool:
1% Fee, High Share Diff(4G), Fast Node i7 & Gbit.
All Etc miners are welcome Wink
Website: www.ethteam.com
Stratum: etc.ethteam.com:8008

ill put 700mhs on it to test  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: RedRockMining on July 26, 2016, 11:13:34 PM
I deposited some ETC to my Poloniex account with non-forked 0.8.1 wallet, but it shows successful in wallet but can't see them in polo, how to track this issue? Is there something wrong?

Similar situation here. Bought 1 ETC on Polo, created deposit address and started mining on Suprnova. So far I've had 6 payouts over the past few hours and none have shown up yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 11:14:21 PM
Nanopool estimate earnings negative ? No shares last 6 hours ? No reply to emails ? very disappointing better stay away from them

Yes, I had them just stop crediting me last night about 1am, and when I looked this morning my miners were still hashing... but I was not earning any ETC.  Something seriously broken at nanopool.  And no responses to emails at all. 

I like that Suprnova is here and responding to requests and issues, so I will give that a try tonight. 

thanks for the props, i'm usually always around and you can dm me on twitter (http://twitter.com/SuprnovaPools) if you have any issues or PM me here as well.. IRC freenet #suprnova would also be possible... It just depends how you like, have a look in my sig :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ocminer on July 26, 2016, 11:15:13 PM
I deposited some ETC to my Poloniex account with non-forked 0.8.1 wallet, but it shows successful in wallet but can't see them in polo, how to track this issue? Is there something wrong?

Similar situation here. Bought 1 ETC on Polo, created deposit address and started mining on Suprnova. So far I've had 6 payouts over the past few hours and none have shown up yet.

you can check your transaction ID's in "My Account" -> "Transactions". Send them to Polo so they can look them up, they're all confirmed from my side.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 26, 2016, 11:19:41 PM
I deposited some ETC to my Poloniex account with non-forked 0.8.1 wallet, but it shows successful in wallet but can't see them in polo, how to track this issue? Is there something wrong?

Similar situation here. Bought 1 ETC on Polo, created deposit address and started mining on Suprnova. So far I've had 6 payouts over the past few hours and none have shown up yet.

you can check your transaction ID's in "My Account" -> "Transactions". Send them to Polo so they can look them up, they're all confirmed from my side.

I think the hang up is on Polo.  I noticed that payments hadn't posted for quite some time on Polo for me after they were sent.  Maybe related to the transaction volume or something, but clearly took longer than I expected.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: thinkpad99 on July 26, 2016, 11:22:48 PM
I have not received, please help me.
Wallet  etc poloniex:  0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d


https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d/payouts


http://etc.nanopool.org/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d#paymentsTab


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: RedRockMining on July 26, 2016, 11:24:37 PM
I deposited some ETC to my Poloniex account with non-forked 0.8.1 wallet, but it shows successful in wallet but can't see them in polo, how to track this issue? Is there something wrong?

Similar situation here. Bought 1 ETC on Polo, created deposit address and started mining on Suprnova. So far I've had 6 payouts over the past few hours and none have shown up yet.

you can check your transaction ID's in "My Account" -> "Transactions". Send them to Polo so they can look them up, they're all confirmed from my side.

I think the hang up is on Polo.  I noticed that payments hadn't posted for quite some time on Polo for me after they were sent.  Maybe related to the transaction volume or something, but clearly took longer than I expected.

Thanks ocminer and longsnowsm. I'll take a guess that they're just backlogged for now and give it some time. If it's not resolved soon I'll go transaction ID route.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: RedRockMining on July 26, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Fix your shit nanopool  ;D

Me too. Tried nano this morning. Took about an hour for my hashrate to even show up and then no shares or estimated profits after two hours so I moved over to supr which is running fine. Emailed nano to alert them, but haven't heard back.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: scorpio18 on July 26, 2016, 11:37:12 PM
I have not received, please help me.
Wallet  etc poloniex:  0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d


https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d/payouts


http://etc.nanopool.org/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d#paymentsTab

Contact polo , the transactions has been sent  and confirmed check the address http://gastracker.io/addr/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d the coins are there


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: pengumpulreceh on July 26, 2016, 11:41:42 PM
I have not received, please help me.
Wallet  etc poloniex:  0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d


https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d/payouts


http://etc.nanopool.org/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d#paymentsTab

Contact polo , the transactions has been sent  and confirmed check the address http://gastracker.io/addr/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d the coins are there

Poloniex :
"The minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC. Smaller deposits will be credited once they total this amount".

So, wait until 1 ETH/C.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: RedRockMining on July 26, 2016, 11:44:06 PM
I have not received, please help me.
Wallet  etc poloniex:  0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d


https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d/payouts


http://etc.nanopool.org/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d#paymentsTab

Contact polo , the transactions has been sent  and confirmed check the address http://gastracker.io/addr/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d the coins are there

Thanks for the gastracker link. Very helpful.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mr.Pro on July 26, 2016, 11:45:06 PM
thx for the x3 profit.. glad i entered this shit hole while it was around .0011BTC and im out of this shit.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 26, 2016, 11:46:39 PM
hi everybody
anybody can tell me why did i have json-rps probleme my settings are ethminer.exe -F uk1.epool.io:8888/0xb5dfbf2b889350a89dd2927d5009b3a6a5bbd1ca -G im (im in eu so im sure the ip of the pool is correct and i know json-rpc problem are from probleme with adresse so i don't understant why that didn't work that's why i come to you guys to help me to set it correctly and sorry for my bad english its not my main language

You should post a screenshot or at least a detailed description of the issue and the exact error message. Then someone might be able to help you.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: thinkpad99 on July 26, 2016, 11:54:19 PM
I have not received, please help me.
Wallet  etc poloniex:  0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d


https://ethc.coin-miners.info/#/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d/payouts


http://etc.nanopool.org/account/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d#paymentsTab

Contact polo , the transactions has been sent  and confirmed check the address http://gastracker.io/addr/0x02f31ce08080a649f2e593270f4cfb299f1be35d the coins are there

Thanks for the gastracker link. Very helpful.

thank all


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Brewins on July 27, 2016, 12:38:28 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic. 

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 27, 2016, 12:42:46 AM
thx for the x3 profit.. glad i entered this shit hole while it was around .0011BTC and im out of this shit.

door, ass, etc (not the coin btw, in this thread its an unintended pun)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Bitcoin-2018 on July 27, 2016, 12:46:27 AM
any news on person hacked the DAO?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ep1989 on July 27, 2016, 12:56:45 AM


You should post a screenshot or at least a detailed description of the issue and the exact error message. Then someone might be able to help you.
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hey thx for the answer but ive retry with same setting and now that work i think the pool was momently down


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: sirazimuth on July 27, 2016, 12:59:27 AM
any news on person hacked the DAO?

I'll go out on a limb here and say he/she probably wants to remain anonymous


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: neolinkhati on July 27, 2016, 01:02:19 AM
ETC is a big crazy...



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: crazyearner on July 27, 2016, 01:02:44 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 27, 2016, 01:02:56 AM
hope y'all havin fun.....i am  :P ... thanks guys  :-*    



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: TraderETH on July 27, 2016, 01:09:41 AM
In my opinion the coin will growing up and will there are people who use it for instrument of Investment. Although it is new coin it will become big coin because of failed dao.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Perryl on July 27, 2016, 01:11:38 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-gdax-ether-classic


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: raphma on July 27, 2016, 01:13:10 AM
In my opinion the coin will growing up and will there are people who use it for instrument of Investment. Although it is new coin it will become big coin because of failed dao.
tecnically, ETC is the old one and ETH is the new coin...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 27, 2016, 01:24:39 AM
woa and now my bittrex acc just got loaded with free etc,lol  ill set up some sell walls, if you manage to eat em and push higher, ill bring out my cold ETH and get more etc for everyone to buy  :)

if you let it drop too much..ill be reloaded too  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 27, 2016, 01:38:59 AM
In my opinion the coin will growing up and will there are people who use it for instrument of Investment. Although it is new coin it will become big coin because of failed dao.
tecnically, ETC is the old one and ETH is the new coin...

For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Affilate User on July 27, 2016, 01:40:55 AM
ETC super free money :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 27, 2016, 01:48:19 AM
In my opinion the coin will growing up and will there are people who use it for instrument of Investment. Although it is new coin it will become big coin because of failed dao.
tecnically, ETC is the old one and ETH is the new coin...

For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.

In other words Vitalik and everyone lied and ETH was never safe... Gotcha... 

I really wish you would hurry up and sell your massive hoard of ETC and old cold ETH and push down the price of ETC.  Can you get a few of your "forked" friends to join in also?  I mean I really need you to push the price of ETC down a LOT.  I really am looking for a great buying opportunity and if you can scare enough people with your nonsense and selling pressure then maybe some of us can build a nice stash before your staying power to depress prices vanishes...

You see if Vitalik and the foundation was lying about the safety of ETH pre-fork then you really can't trust anything they say now can you?  I mean that entire time you were holding all that precious ETH and they were telling you it was safe as long as it wasn't in the DAO... HMMMM

So I am waiting, let me know when you start your whale push to crush ETC.  I have my buy ETC ready to roll as soon as you get it done...

You think those DEV's aren't going to jump ship to whatever chain has the support???  LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Bl4ckw00d on July 27, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
I must have missed something.  Went to bed and work and came home.  What did I miss to cause the price to go this far up?   Don't get me wrong I don't mind at all.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 27, 2016, 02:14:22 AM
any news on person hacked the DAO?

I'll go out on a limb here and say he/she probably wants to remain anonymous

I'm pretty sure mrbumpertits is the hacker. Brimming with intelligence and charisma.


http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-vitalik-buterin-classic-blockchain/
Further, Buterin encouraged the Ethereum Classic team to execute an additional hard fork that would guard its blockchain from ‘replay attacks’ by moving classic ethers, or the currency units on the alternative blockchain, to new accounts.

So etc got a choice,
fork to avoid replay attacks but if they do another chain will be created...the current etc chain will still be active and i will keep it alive and rename it etcf and get free etcf to match my etc balance  :o

if they dont fork then they will suffer loss of funds and no dapps ever  8)

Case in point. So ETC should fix what Vitalik failed to do, i.e. a clean replay-proof fork? Why don't you have another vote and fork ETH once again. Better for everyone.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 27, 2016, 02:15:55 AM
In my opinion the coin will growing up and will there are people who use it for instrument of Investment. Although it is new coin it will become big coin because of failed dao.
tecnically, ETC is the old one and ETH is the new coin...

For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.

In other words Vitalik and everyone lied and ETH was never safe... Gotcha... 

I really wish you would hurry up and sell your massive hoard of ETC and old cold ETH and push down the price of ETC.  Can you get a few of your "forked" friends to join in also?  I mean I really need you to push the price of ETC down a LOT.  I really am looking for a great buying opportunity and if you can scare enough people with your nonsense and selling pressure then maybe some of us can build a nice stash before your staying power to depress prices vanishes...

You see if Vitalik and the foundation was lying about the safety of ETH pre-fork then you really can't trust anything they say now can you?  I mean that entire time you were  :Pand they were telling you it was safe as long as it wasn't in the DAO... HMMMM

So I am waiting, let me know when you start your whale push to crush ETC.  I have my buy ETC ready to roll as soon as you get it done...

You think those DEV's aren't going to jump ship to whatever chain has the support???  LOL
im in no need or hurry to sell,lol holdin that precious ETH is the reason i got me alot of free etc shitcoin, so thanks to all.
As for whale crush,lol i told everyone here 12hours ago, buy as walls are moving up...now tell me how many times did i say that here before?
The best way to deal with trolls is make them buy and hold heavy bags..the heavier the better  :P 

Nah, I don't want anyone to buy something that is obviously morally compromised like ETC.  I would prefer to have you help me get some cheap coin.  That way you have the moral obligation lifted off your back of telling me how bad ETC is at the same time helping me to realize my goal of obtaining more ETC.   So it is a win-win really.  You can have what you want, I can have what I want and besides you will feel so much better having that burden lifted from your shoulders.

You can stockpile that ETH to your hearts content with all that free ETC you just cashed out and for those of us that want ETC we can pick some up cheap so that we can hand it to the evil Hacker, in a replay attack while under a 51% attack, and without any hope of ever seeing a dapp or smart contract ever for ETC that I no longer have because I was ripped off...  

I heard somewhere that if you own ETC you will get fleas, the zika virus, HIV, your bank account will be robbed, your spouse will cheat on you, and your genitals will fall off...  

So far it all seems to be true.   I will be in the market as soon as I take some profits from ETC for a prosthetic penis since mine fell off shortly after Polo gave me some free ETC.  So I am just trying to save you here.  Nobody warned me in time so here I am, and I think I just saw a flea crawling up my leg...  So as a humanitarian I am just trying to save you from the horrors of owning ETC.   Consider it my good deed of the year.   ;D

It really is a shame that Vitalik and the Foundation lied about ETH this entire time...  Who would have thought?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 27, 2016, 02:21:53 AM
In my opinion the coin will growing up and will there are people who use it for instrument of Investment. Although it is new coin it will become big coin because of failed dao.
tecnically, ETC is the old one and ETH is the new coin...

For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.

In other words Vitalik and everyone lied and ETH was never safe... Gotcha... 

I really wish you would hurry up and sell your massive hoard of ETC and old cold ETH and push down the price of ETC.  Can you get a few of your "forked" friends to join in also?  I mean I really need you to push the price of ETC down a LOT.  I really am looking for a great buying opportunity and if you can scare enough people with your nonsense and selling pressure then maybe some of us can build a nice stash before your staying power to depress prices vanishes...

You see if Vitalik and the foundation was lying about the safety of ETH pre-fork then you really can't trust anything they say now can you?  I mean that entire time you were  :Pand they were telling you it was safe as long as it wasn't in the DAO... HMMMM

So I am waiting, let me know when you start your whale push to crush ETC.  I have my buy ETC ready to roll as soon as you get it done...

You think those DEV's aren't going to jump ship to whatever chain has the support???  LOL
im in no need or hurry to sell,lol holdin that precious ETH is the reason i got me alot of free etc shitcoin, so thanks to all.
As for whale crush,lol i told everyone here 12hours ago, buy as walls are moving up...now tell me how many times did i say that here before?
The best way to deal with trolls is make them buy and hold heavy bags..the heavier the better  :P 

Nah, I don't want anyone to buy something that is obviously morally compromised like ETC.  I would prefer to have you help me get some cheap coin.  That way you have the moral obligation lifted off your back of telling me how bad ETC is at the same time helping me to realize my goal of obtaining more ETC.   So it is a win-win really.  You can have what you want, I can have what I want and besides you will feel so much better having that burden lifted from your shoulders.

You can stockpile that ETH to your hearts content with all that free ETC you just cashed out and for those of us that want ETC we can pick some up cheap so that we can hand it to the evil Hacker, in a replay attack while under a 51% attack, and without any hope of ever seeing a dapp or smart contract ever for ETC that I no longer have because I was ripped off...  

I heard somewhere that if you own ETC you will get fleas, the zika virus, HIV, your bank account will be robbed, your spouse will cheat on you, and your genitals will fall off...  

So far it all seems to be true.   I will be in the market as soon as I take some profits from ETC for a prosthetic penis since mine fell off shortly after Polo gave me some free ETC.  So I am just trying to save you here.  Nobody warned me in time so here I am, and I think I just saw a flea crawling up my leg...  So as a humanitarian I am just trying to save you from the horrors of owning ETC.   Consider it my good deed of the year.   ;D

It really is a shame that Vitalik and the Foundation lied about ETH this entire time...  Who would have thought?
damn your soo sweet ,lol  :-*  there is a few negatives to etc yes, but overall from a personal pov its been very gd to me. Free coins, big sells then rebuys on first few hours of launch giving me more etc & BTC too. Along with a whole new group of ethereum lovers...what else could i possibly ask for  :-* :-*


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 27, 2016, 02:42:38 AM
24h volume 150k BTC (52 million ETC, 100 million USD), twice the volume of ETH.

Exchange rate ~$2, up by nearly 200% for the day, compared to 10% down for ETH at ~$12.

Network hashrate 600 GH/s, roughly 15% of ETH hashrate, so mining profitability should be similar.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adiosrubixi on July 27, 2016, 02:44:59 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic.  

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?

Good point! I'm wondering too what the hell is he doing... Knowing the character, the only possible explanation is: ulterior motives...

Bitpop: go back to Paycoin... They are missing your legendary dark humour  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adiosrubixi on July 27, 2016, 02:52:24 AM

Exchange rate ~$2, up by nearly 200% for the day, compared to 10% down for ETH at ~$12.


Time to dump and kill ETC.... All this non sense will profit whoever hacked the DAO... Suddenly down to $1.82


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: basyaru on July 27, 2016, 02:59:54 AM
Today was a hard day for etc.nanopool.org

Lot's of rejects, Statistic server crash and some other stuff.
But we've recovered statistic and resolved other issues.

Come mine with us!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: suchmoon on July 27, 2016, 03:00:36 AM

Exchange rate ~$2, up by nearly 200% for the day, compared to 10% down for ETH at ~$12.


Time to dump and kill ETC.... All this non sense will profit whoever hacked the DAO... Suddenly down to $1.82

As opposed to profit for ponzi schemes like yours?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: adiosrubixi on July 27, 2016, 03:16:28 AM

Exchange rate ~$2, up by nearly 200% for the day, compared to 10% down for ETH at ~$12.


Time to dump and kill ETC.... All this non sense will profit whoever hacked the DAO... Suddenly down to $1.82

As opposed to profit for ponzi schemes like yours?

Yeah you should try it... I've made a lot with Ponzi schemes and I'm proud of it... You too by the way, what the hell are you doing here? From Paycoin to ETC... Is this thread your new jumpoff?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ecawyna on July 27, 2016, 03:22:16 AM
So people speculating on the chain with no developer and app support? Pfff lmao


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: WaffleMaster on July 27, 2016, 03:26:58 AM
I'm very confused about all of this. But one thing I'm not confused about is that objectively ETC is winning over ETH-HF. By an extremely large margin... I was absolutely baffled at how nearly the entire ETH community sold their soul for coins that were rightfully obtained and were unscathed for the first day or however long. Now I see karma is truly catching up. Good job ETC community. Continue to stand up for what all Crypto Currency stands up for regardless of the majority of the ETH community trying to line their pockets with a hard fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 27, 2016, 03:29:49 AM
Thanks to OCMiner at Suprnova for hanging in here with us and responding to questions and issues.  That is the real difference between pools is when you get real help when you need it and have been sticking with us through the growing pains of a coin launch.  

So I setup my miners with Claymore on Suprnova and so far they connect and appear to be hashing away.  Now to watch and see if I get the hash rates and coin that I should be earning.  So I will glady report back in the morning how things went overnight.

Oh, the other thing is that I noticed that Suprnova is NOT charging a fee right now to mine with them.  If you decide to mine with a pool and they do something like this where they don't charge a fee that is great for giving them a try, but if you decide to hang around and use the pool please consider a donation.  

It takes lots of time, energy, effort to run something as complex as a pool and given how many times we have had to yell for help and someone came to the rescue don't you think that is worth something to you?  Please consider a donation.  



Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 27, 2016, 03:30:46 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic.  

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?

Good point! I'm wondering too what the hell is he doing... Knowing the character, the only possible explanation is: ulterior motives...

Bitpop: go back to Paycoin... They are missing your legendary dark humour  :D

He is proving a point that blockchains should be immutable and free from tinkering from the powers that be. Vitalik because of his panic wanted to create a quick solution before the attacker can dump his coins in the exchanges. But this backfired on him because now there are two chains. The way it was done is very sloppy. Now a lot of bitcoin supporters are enjoying this because Vitalik in his quest to outdo bitcoin has failed. So Bitpop started this thread as a "Haha I'm laughing" for all of you. The joke is on you.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: WaffleMaster on July 27, 2016, 03:45:48 AM
Any word on the pools that switched to hard fork ETH switching back to the original and superior ETC chain now that mining on it is vastly more profitable than forked one? I mean, they forked for profit so why wouldn't they switch back for profit?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: fuze0000 on July 27, 2016, 03:48:55 AM
ETC will only grow this week!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 27, 2016, 03:50:26 AM
ETC will only grow this week!
nice ...hope your buying...nobody else is, lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 27, 2016, 03:53:03 AM
Today was a hard day for etc.nanopool.org

Lot's of rejects, Statistic server crash and some other stuff.
But we've recovered statistic and resolved other issues.

Come mine with us!

Still looks broken for me.  I just pointed a couple of miners your way just to see if your were reachable and reporting my hashes on the web page.  NOPE!  Nothing registers on the web page for me, but I see the miners hashing away.  Let us know when it is fixed and I will check again.  


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 27, 2016, 04:08:09 AM
Today was a hard day for etc.nanopool.org

Lot's of rejects, Statistic server crash and some other stuff.
But we've recovered statistic and resolved other issues.

Come mine with us!

Still looks broken for me.  I just pointed a couple of miners your way just to see if your were reachable and reporting my hashes on the web page.  NOPE!  Nothing registers on the web page for me, but I see the miners hashing away.  Let us know when it is fixed and I will check again.  

Wow, I disconnected my miners and went to another pool.  I hit the refresh on nanopool just now and finally my hashing shows up.  BIG delays in when the hashing occurs and when it is reported on the page.  So maybe it is working.   ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 27, 2016, 04:09:06 AM
I was lucky with my dump :D
Bittrex suddenly gave me a shitload of ETC

I sold at
Limit Sell   0.00500002

I wasnt the lucky one selling at 0.01020 right before me.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: frostminer on July 27, 2016, 04:10:02 AM
Today was a hard day for etc.nanopool.org

Lot's of rejects, Statistic server crash and some other stuff.
But we've recovered statistic and resolved other issues.

Come mine with us!

Still looks broken for me.  I just pointed a couple of miners your way just to see if your were reachable and reporting my hashes on the web page.  NOPE!  Nothing registers on the web page for me, but I see the miners hashing away.  Let us know when it is fixed and I will check again.  

Wow, I disconnected my miners and went to another pool.  I hit the refresh on nanopool just now and finally my hashing shows up.  BIG delays in when the hashing occurs and when it is reported on the page.  So maybe it is working.   ???

Delays are very normal at pools.
The short avg. is usually visible after 15 mins,

edit:
but 2 hours should be more accurate


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Mrpumperitis on July 27, 2016, 04:10:08 AM
I was lucky with my dump :D
Bittrex suddenly gave me a shitload of ETC

I sold at
Limit Sell   0.00500002

I wasnt the lucky one selling at 0.01020 right before me.
very very nice  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 27, 2016, 04:15:00 AM
Now is a good time to buy some etc? Haha 250k.
What i say? Dump in chinese market!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Game_Seller on July 27, 2016, 04:18:12 AM
Now is a good time to buy some etc? Haha 250k.
What i say? Dump in chinese market!

They always dump on everyone like Asian buffet.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: ShooterXD on July 27, 2016, 04:23:31 AM
Now is a good time to buy some etc? Haha 250k.
What i say? Dump in chinese market!

They always dump on everyone like Asian buffet.

They dump and i buy.
Im short and they dump.
I love chinese market. Só agressive!

S2


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Affilate User on July 27, 2016, 04:37:22 AM
Now is a good time to buy some etc? Haha 250k.
What i say? Dump in chinese market!

They always dump on everyone like Asian buffet.

They dump and i buy.
Im short and they dump.
I love chinese market. Só agressive!

S2
buy hight sell low :D :D :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 27, 2016, 04:50:01 AM
Can't wait till ETH is worthless and ETC is mooned, and I dan't even have any! Lol

This scene just keeps me smiling. :)

BTW, who was right?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558315.0


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 27, 2016, 04:52:45 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic. 

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?

I am a bitcoin extremist and nothing will beat bitcoin. But if there's a second coin it sure as hell won't be a mutable, centralized, premined


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: P E K K A on July 27, 2016, 04:58:33 AM
This is awesome coin, thanks etc
I Profit 2 BTC


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 27, 2016, 05:13:00 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic. 

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?

I am a bitcoin extremist and nothing will beat bitcoin. But if there's a second coin it sure as hell won't be a mutable, centralized, premined

Hey now this is pretty awesome really, I mean how appropriate is it that this fiasco lives up to the usual premine coin scam business model by forking out the problem they created in the first place and ruining any integrity they had? Lesson here...don't mess with premined coins kids.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: tylerderden on July 27, 2016, 05:15:41 AM
Speaking of integrity...ladies and gentleman it's pumpertits, the pillar of all honesty


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: bitpop on July 27, 2016, 05:23:35 AM
https://www.etc-eth.com

https://shapeshift.io

https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ETC


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 27, 2016, 05:35:31 AM
ETC over 2x ETH volume on polo!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: plast555 on July 27, 2016, 05:37:43 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic. 

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?

I am a bitcoin extremist and nothing will beat bitcoin. But if there's a second coin it sure as hell won't be a mutable, centralized, premined

don't full yourself here, you really think that Vitalik and his crew didn't predict this scenario ?
I mean, we are talking about biggest project in crypto and more, project worth a millions and millions of dollars, this is not children in playground, so I'm very sure that this crew make ETC on purpose and at the end who has the most ETC ?? who will earn one more time from 0 to xxxxx BTC ? We will get just crumbs. And we can make a stories like this until they make a serious profit one more time.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: Hueristic on July 27, 2016, 05:41:00 AM
I am wondering about the the point of this thread.  Bitpop is a BTC purist and overt Ethereum Hater but now has a moderated thread advocating Eth Classic. 

Are you actually promoting Eth Classic or do you have ulterior motives?

I am a bitcoin extremist and nothing will beat bitcoin. But if there's a second coin it sure as hell won't be a mutable, centralized, premined

don't full yourself here, you really think that Vitalik and his crew didn't predict this scenario ?
I mean, we are talking about biggest project in crypto and more, project worth a millions and millions of dollars, this is not children in playground, so I'm very sure that this crew make ETC on purpose and at the end who has the most ETC ?? who will earn one more time from 0 to xxxxx BTC ? We will get just crumbs. And we can make a stories like this until they make a serious profit one more time.

LOL, of course they didn't. go back and look at the leaked screenies. they dumped ETC like fools and are stuck with a fucked chain that has to fork again. Do you even try to keep up or just blindly worship at the fools alter?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts
Post by: dinofelis on July 27, 2016, 05:52:03 AM
This is brilliant, I fully support the ETC chain !

Moreover, this is an unprecedented experiment with a genuine hard fork (that is, with two viable chains) where real money is involved - this never happened before to my knowledge.

This is "consensus" in a new daylight.  It is individual right over "democratic dictatorship", in the same way as when a region gains independence from a larger country.  This is the crypto equi