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Title: 2013-03-21 National Journal "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: mccorvic on March 21, 2013, 09:04:20 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/how-washington-plans-to-regulate-your-bitcoins-20130321

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In plain English, if you were to buy this man's house for 6,750 bitcoins like he's asked for, nobody will swoop down on you and tell you "no." On the other hand, if you're a middleman and you help transfer the currency as part of the transaction, you'll be treated just like any other intermediary using paper money


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: aigeezer on March 21, 2013, 09:28:39 PM

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if you were to buy this man's house for 6,750 bitcoins like he's asked for,

The house in question is in Alberta, Canada, so if Washington somehow finds a way to insert itself into the transaction it would be, umm, an interesting development.


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: solex on March 21, 2013, 09:51:55 PM

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if you were to buy this man's house for 6,750 bitcoins like he's asked for,

The house in question is in Alberta, Canada, so if Washington somehow finds a way to insert itself into the transaction it would be, umm, an interesting development.


Indeed. Likely scenario: Canadian citizen buys house off another Canadian citizen, in Canada, with Bitcoins. No foreign government intervention is permitted under Canadian law!


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: nimda on March 22, 2013, 03:00:15 AM

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if you were to buy this man's house for 6,750 bitcoins like he's asked for,

The house in question is in Alberta, Canada, so if Washington somehow finds a way to insert itself into the transaction it would be, umm, an interesting development.


Indeed. Likely scenario: Canadian citizen buys house off another Canadian citizen, in Canada, with Bitcoins. No foreign government intervention is permitted under Canadian law!

U.S. intervenes anyway, both citizens are unlawfully extradited to the U.S. in the name of the war on terror.


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: Mike Christ on March 22, 2013, 03:59:19 AM

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if you were to buy this man's house for 6,750 bitcoins like he's asked for,

The house in question is in Alberta, Canada, so if Washington somehow finds a way to insert itself into the transaction it would be, umm, an interesting development.


Indeed. Likely scenario: Canadian citizen buys house off another Canadian citizen, in Canada, with Bitcoins. No foreign government intervention is permitted under Canadian law!

U.S. intervenes anyway, both citizens are unlawfully extradited to the U.S. in the name of the war on terror.

And then they both get evaporated by drones :P


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: Sage on March 22, 2013, 04:09:37 AM
Regulate Bitcoins?  Good luck on that one.

Decentralized systems cannot be regulated or controlled.

It's only central points such as the exchanges that can.

Once we get a viable decentralized exchange going any attempts of government regulation will simply be weekend armchair entertainment for Bitcoin users.

Programmers, developers, what's it going to take to create that system?


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: aigeezer on March 24, 2013, 04:48:16 PM

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if you were to buy this man's house for 6,750 bitcoins like he's asked for,

The house in question is in Alberta, Canada, so if Washington somehow finds a way to insert itself into the transaction it would be, umm, an interesting development.


Indeed. Likely scenario: Canadian citizen buys house off another Canadian citizen, in Canada, with Bitcoins. No foreign government intervention is permitted under Canadian law!

U.S. intervenes anyway, both citizens are unlawfully extradited to the U.S. in the name of the war on terror.

And then they both get evaporated by drones :P

The plot thickens. Apparently the man who owns the house was born in the USA and lives near Nashville, so even though the house for sale is in Canada, Washington may take an interest after all.

http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/21/canadian-bitcoin-house-for-sale/



Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: Haole on March 24, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
If he sells for Bitcoin he will not come under even FinCEN regulations unless he exchanges the Bitcoin for Fiat at some point.   Even if "Washington" is interested, all they can do is sit a watch regardless of his "citizenship" until such time as he potentially converts any Bitcoin to Fiat currency.


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: cypherdoc on March 24, 2013, 05:58:39 PM
If he sells for Bitcoin he will not come under even FinCEN regulations unless he exchanges the Bitcoin for Fiat at some point.   Even if "Washington" is interested, all they can do is sit a watch regardless of his "citizenship" until such time as he potentially converts any Bitcoin to Fiat currency.

Good luck trying to figure that one out.


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Review "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: odolvlobo on March 24, 2013, 07:35:55 PM
Decentralized systems cannot be regulated or controlled.

Each person is the U.S. is regulated and controlled by the U.S. government to some extent, and you can't get more decentralized than that. You can argue that the Bitcoin itself can't be regulated or controlled, but that is irrelevant if the people that are using it are regulated and controlled.


Title: Re: 2013-03-21 National Journal "How Washington Plans to Regulate Your Bitcoins"
Post by: jgarzik on March 24, 2013, 09:05:46 PM
Fixed thread title to read "National Journal" (as opposed to "National Review")