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Title: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: TheIrishman on July 25, 2016, 03:48:35 PM
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Can the internet reboot Africa?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/25/can-the-internet-reboot-africa (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/25/can-the-internet-reboot-africa)

With smartphone use and web penetration soaring, Africa is set for a tech revolution – but only if its infrastructure can support it

<< You can buy sunlight with your phone, conduct an eye test on someone 100 miles away and attend a church service on your iPad. There are apps for investing in cows, for sending parcels and for mapping unrest. And soon you'll be able to deliver blood and medicines by drone. There's free Facebook, mobile banking, and the promise of cashless societies and digitised land records. And from Accra in the west to Kigali in the east, a spray of "tech hubs" talk about "leapfrogging" technology and incubating start-ups.

Such are the giddy promises of Africa's "fourth industrial revolution" – a giant step forward into the digital world which the Guardian is reporting on for the next two weeks. Some are salivating that it will amount to the renaissance of a marginalised continent, while others soberly warn of the hype.

By 2020 there will be more than 700m smartphone connections in Africa – more than twice the projected number in North America and not far from the total in Europe, according to GSMA, an association of mobile phone operators. In Nigeria alone 16 smartphones are sold every minute, while mobile data traffic across Africa is set to increase 15-fold by 2020 (http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/visual-networking-index-vni/mobile-white-paper-c11-520862.html). Twenty per cent of the continent (https://www.gsmaintelligence.com/research/?file=721eb3d4b80a36451202d0473b3c4a63&download) already have access to a mobile broadband connection, a figure predicted to triple in the next five years. The mobile industry will account for 8% of GDP by 2020 – double what it will be in the rest of the world. And internet penetration is rising faster than anywhere else as costs of data and devices fall. >>


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: countryfree on July 25, 2016, 10:55:48 PM
The mobile industry will account for 8% of GDP by 2020 – double what it will be in the rest of the world.

This can be easily explained. To many people in Africa, the cost of owning a mobile phone line is one tenth of their monthly income. Or more to the poorest folks. This isn't like Europe...


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: plpbtc1526 on July 26, 2016, 02:57:20 AM
Internet is now essential to all people. Especially on businesses. Cause its a very powerful way of communicating and also marketing. Since more and more consumers are using the Internet to shop, browse and purchase various products and services, it only makes sense that businesses want to go where their customers are. Africa should develop their technology starting on internet so many establishments will be build and more africans can have work for a living.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: saddampbuh on July 26, 2016, 11:22:17 AM
give them another few billion years

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Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: Losvienleg on July 26, 2016, 11:59:42 AM

This cute ape is a creature of God, and thus is perfect. Comparison to it is not true.

They rejected our colonialism and thus shouldn't be helped in any way. They will never be able to achieve anything if we're not behind planning and organising everything.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: TheIrishman on July 26, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/26/code-club-senegal-where-women-lead-the-way (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/26/code-club-senegal-where-women-lead-the-way)

<< The young female creators of land-rights app Sigeste are part of a push to get girls coding in the west African country. >>


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: Daniel91 on July 26, 2016, 03:09:48 PM
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With smartphone use and web penetration soaring, Africa is set for a tech revolution – but only if its infrastructure can support it
Interesting statement but I don't agree.
For a tech revolution many more things are needed, not only infrastructure.
You need security, stable political system, no corruption, very good education, stable and developed Internet etc.
I'm afraid that still many countries in Africa can't reach that level. 


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: Dank14 on July 26, 2016, 08:29:07 PM


Africans are not as dumb as that!


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: mrhelpful on July 26, 2016, 08:32:09 PM
Its not just africa - its poor countries in general that dont have the resources to know whats going on...

Think about it - if you grew up in a poverish country and expect to know what an iphone 7 youd be way ahead then most in that country since you know the internet.

Its about the resources that is available to them.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: Losvienleg on July 26, 2016, 09:20:15 PM
Its not just africa - its poor countries in general that dont have the resources to know whats going on...

Think about it - if you grew up in a poverish country and expect to know what an iphone 7 youd be way ahead then most in that country since you know the internet.

Its about the resources that is available to them.

Given that, should be colonialism be something good, for both of us ? They wanted a pseudo-liberty and now they pay the fact that nothing changed except than they have now strictly nothing.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: deadsilent on July 27, 2016, 04:21:28 AM
Internet is now essential to all people. Especially on businesses. Cause its a very powerful way of communicating and also marketing. Since more and more consumers are using the Internet to shop, browse and purchase various products and services, it only makes sense that businesses want to go where their customers are. Africa should develop their technology starting on internet so many establishments will be build and more africans can have work for a living.
I agree with you. The Internet has revolutionized the way the world does business on both a local and global level. From recruiting employees to gathering data on the competition, the ways businesses utilize the Internet are numerous, as are the benefits of the Internet to the business community. If only the government of Africa make way for this. Welcome to the future.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: AstralWonder on July 27, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Well, culture is really important. If your culture isn't promoting advancing economics, chances are, there's not going to be progress. Let's see what will happen in Africa though.

But so is technology. (See: ethereum)


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: BitcoinPaw on July 27, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
Africa is very interesting without internet, people who don't have any education have many different cultures and traditions, internet will kill this stuff at my opinion.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: countryfree on July 27, 2016, 10:34:23 PM
Internet by itself is neutral.   

No, it isn't. Far from it. Today's Internet shows the dominating culture. When you anything on google, it gives you results related to the context, built from your previous searches, or pages you've already visited, or results which are trending at the particular time of your search. facebook is even worse. The Internet will only accelerate the destruction of African culture, but that had started way before the Internet was invented.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: TheIrishman on July 28, 2016, 12:06:02 AM
Africa's top 10 tech pioneers: "We have become an internet-consuming culture"

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/25/africas-tech-pioneers-we-have-become-an-internet-consuming-culture (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/25/africas-tech-pioneers-we-have-become-an-internet-consuming-culture)

<< Africa's digital transformation would be nothing without the tens of thousands of people who have invested, and continue to invest, energy into propelling it forward. They are the leading lights driving change in infrastructure, mobile connectivity, online activism, e-commerce and financial services. Some are opening up digital cultural spaces or working to bring in investment for tech startups.

As part of the Guardian's focus on technology in Africa we've listed 10 individuals who've been pioneers in the transformation from Tanzania to Tunisia, with the three of sub-Saharan Africa's big tech hitters – South Africa, Nigeria and Kenya – particularly well represented. And in a bid to look forward we asked each of the 10 pioneers to predict the next development in Africa's digital transformation and to each nominate an emerging talent to watch. >>


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: Sontoloyo on July 28, 2016, 07:36:04 AM

I more like Africa without internet, sometimes I dislike internet and smartphone and back to natural, like real social, cultures, religions and traditions


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: countryfree on July 28, 2016, 11:16:54 PM
There are theories and then, there are facts.
African culture is losing ground fast all over the continent, and part of that change take its roots on the web.

In most markets in Africa nowadays, you see products to whiten the skin, or hair products, so that black women can have their hair look like a white woman, or Obama's wife. African women watch Sex and the city on TV, and they've changed their behavior. In many African countries, there used to be nothing wrong between a 40-year old man and a 12-year old girl, but nowadays white man's culture, which the Internet brings, say it's bad.

In Kenya, there are muslim preachers who say Internet's evil, like everything which comes from white men, but the young adapt to the foreign ideas brought by the Internet, and they dump their traditional culture.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: gilangIDR on July 28, 2016, 11:22:27 PM
on the internet we can get all the information we wanted. I believe if the internet in Africa will now be able to give change to people africa. africa will begin to escape poverty. I believe.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: virtualx on July 29, 2016, 06:40:30 PM
on the internet we can get all the information we wanted. I believe if the internet in Africa will now be able to give change to people africa. africa will begin to escape poverty. I believe.

Africa is changing. Life quality for Africans could increase, but it depends on wars and foreign influence.

Look at a typical African city:
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visitcapitalcity.com%2Fimagens%2Fcity%2FDar-es-Salaam%2FDar-es-Salaam.jpg&f=1

GDP of African countries:
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pPsx3OFFxzM%2FTklts5DRYQI%2FAAAAAAAABQU%2FFaZLqk9lQHs%2Fs1600%2FEast%2BAfrica%2BGDP%2Bgrowth.png&f=1



Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: countryfree on July 29, 2016, 11:25:03 PM

No, sir. This isn't your typical African city. Far from it. Is this Lagos? That's only the bright side. There are some rich folks there, I know Honda has a factory which assembles Accords in Nigeria, but there are also millions of people who barely have anything but the clothes they're wearing. And the poor vastly outnumber the rich. Internet will help, but much more is needed to make Africans richer.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: resilientknight on July 29, 2016, 11:33:27 PM
No doubt the Bitcoin can make things much better there, through a more dynamic and fair economy.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: RealBitcoin on July 30, 2016, 06:56:59 PM
I just hope more people join us from Africa and other places.

Seems like the 1st world cant appreciate bitcoin enough, and many shills are against it, but the 3rd world that needs money will love it.

So bitcoin has better chances in Africa than anywhere else.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: virtualx on July 30, 2016, 08:00:00 PM

No, sir. This isn't your typical African city. Far from it. Is this Lagos? That's only the bright side. There are some rich folks there, I know Honda has a factory which assembles Accords in Nigeria, but there are also millions of people who barely have anything but the clothes they're wearing. And the poor vastly outnumber the rich. Internet will help, but much more is needed to make Africans richer.
Its Dar-es-Salaam. What I meant to say is Africa is changing. There are more cities like this.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: countryfree on July 31, 2016, 11:50:28 AM

No, sir. This isn't your typical African city. Far from it. Is this Lagos? That's only the bright side. There are some rich folks there, I know Honda has a factory which assembles Accords in Nigeria, but there are also millions of people who barely have anything but the clothes they're wearing. And the poor vastly outnumber the rich. Internet will help, but much more is needed to make Africans richer.
Its Dar-es-Salaam. What I meant to say is Africa is changing. There are more cities like this.


Never been to SE Africa, but there are also nice places like this in Lagos or Abidjan. But you never have to go far to find yourself on a dirt road where the houses don't have running water. Yes, Africa's changing. Fast.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: StingrayX on July 31, 2016, 09:37:02 PM
I think that Internet can be useful for some individuals who use it appropriately but at a large scale (African countries), I think it's more complicated than that because corrupted systems will control any use of technology against them to maintain their power on oppressed people and nothing will change  :-\


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: RealBitcoin on July 31, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
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So bitcoin has better chances in Africa than anywhere else.

Africa has less access to computers and internet, and less individual wealth, fiat, to invest in crypto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Internet_usage

Very possibly new coins, issued in Africa, will solve some distribution issues. The first African coins will probably be issued by the people who send emails about the rich Nigerian prince. Then probably a wave of "national coins" etc.

Best solution would be for an NGO to set up an infrastructure, like an exchange that also provides information, to smooth crypto in Africa.

There is still cheap labour there and any bitcoin company can hire workers from there.

There are job opportunities there, not just online but physical too. Some african farmers setup a shop in bitcoin and sell the vegetables.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: RealBitcoin on August 01, 2016, 01:28:08 AM


I don't find information on African farmers selling with bitcoin, maybe it is a wholesaler who accepts bitcoin.

Africa is important because its resources, compared to its level of industrialization, are significant. Most countries and regions consume a lot and produce little, Africa the opposite.

Outsiders want to maintain access to African resources, prevent development that might threaten that. Africa, as a region, has the potential to become a power center similar to what the west has been for many decades. Once there is a more developed uncentralized global economy, with commodities having a more consistent value across borders, Africa will become disproportionately powerful.

Yes there is a lot of resources there that can be used, and if not for the wars and gangs, africa would already be very rich.

Hopefully they dont fall into the shitty socialist illness that the west has.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2016, 05:21:56 PM
The place to start is Western Sahara. Those people are so low in poverty that they will do anything to get out of their hole.

8)


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
The place to start is Western Sahara. Those people are so low in poverty that they will do anything to get out of their hole.

8)

What do you mean? Poverty by itself does not help a new economy develop. And for crypto there has to be some level of education.

When there are coins with productive algorithms requiring direct human interaction to mine, like artificial intelligence coins, then there will be more opportunities in places like that. Right now the poorest places depend on 'charity' that does not produce anything useful.

Nobody said it would be easy. But you know how it goes... no pain, no gain.

8)


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: Daniel91 on August 01, 2016, 06:49:54 PM
Internet alone can't reboot africa.
In order to really help this content we have to solve really a lot problems.
Political corruption is the biggest problem.
Political instability is second biggest in my opinion.
Other problems are hunger, AIDS, no education for the most people, undeveloped countries, no infrastructure necessery for business like electricity, Internet etc.
I can continue here but already enough said.
Internet alone really can't help them.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: RealityTruth on August 01, 2016, 08:19:44 PM
facebook is having it's own agenda in africa


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: countryfree on August 01, 2016, 10:37:57 PM
The place to start is Western Sahara. Those people are so low in poverty that they will do anything to get out of their hole.

8)

There are much poorer places in Africa. The coast of Western Sahara is under Moroccan control, then there's a war zone. It's a road and you can't put a foot out of that road because there are mines. Also, there are terrorists out there.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: groll on August 03, 2016, 07:03:25 AM
Maybe.  This country will be more informed, people will know their rights, will be aware of their surroundings by the use of modern technologies like smartphones.  And since they will know what a smartphones capable of, bringing anything and everything on just a touch, there will be lesser crimes, less case of HIV.  Africans will know everything and anything.  These things will help their country and of course their lives to reboot again.


Title: Re: Can the internet reboot Africa?
Post by: waszurHölle on August 03, 2016, 02:45:49 PM
all the technology is wortheless if they still promoting the same despots who sell out the country.