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Title: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Abiego on July 27, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
Hey,

Bitcointalk is a big forum, and will help to grab the scammers on Google when someone write in Google "Payza" hopefully will appear this thread.

https://i.gyazo.com/0fe9fc1db96298c2279190e707956f0a.png


Four days ago I received money from a friend, he is NOT involved in fraudulents transactions, I know him. Basically he sent me $900 USD coming from his bank account and I checked it , was directly uploaded from his bank account. Then he send me the $900 USD , then I decided to withdraw it... Waited 3 days and I got this email:

https://i.gyazo.com/11c081117f0374a1c14342a400789f35.png

Then I go to check my Payza balance, according what they said in the email it has been returned to "my balance"
https://i.gyazo.com/e155301458756e91439574de081d9701.png

As you can see, is not in my balance. Then now they say it has been reversed back to my friend's payza balance.

So, I ask him and I really tust him its my friend, we talk in Facebook, whatsapp and even skype everyday. So I ask him if he can see the payment returned to his account, he check it really quickly for me and it is not in his balance, and not even returned to his bank account.

Logic? Payza = SCAM

The funds just dissapear in the air, is not in my account, not in my friend's account, and not in his bank.

I have now just to say, IF YOU WILL USE PAYZA , USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: codehtcmail on July 28, 2016, 06:32:01 AM
Same happened to me a few months ago, when I requested a Bitcoin withdrawal they decilned it and reversed the transactions and said money comes from fraudulent sources, evryone in the chain has been reversed and the first sender is the only one who did not receive the money, so where did it go ? nobody knows.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: zazarb on July 28, 2016, 09:24:31 AM
you should  contact payza support first,
and  I think that the return to the bank need some time , as I see not yet passed even 24hours,
so a little patience :)


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 28, 2016, 12:27:00 PM
Payza has been scamming people ever since the dawn of bitcoins.After verifying my passport/driving license ,they never processed my funds,when I sent them a huge email saying I should take legal actions,they banned my account with a further notice that They are not allowed to talk to me anymore and only if my lawyer contacts them,they can solve the matter.I wasn't really jobless to hire a lawyer for 0.05 bitcoins anyway but the support they have and the way transactions are processed,I feel like we're living in 1930.Give up on payza or take a legal action.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: JaHitler on July 28, 2016, 12:45:21 PM
Yea i think also that payza,paypal and perfectmoney are scam.Paypal dont want remove my account if i donz have about couple $ to pay fee that isnt fairbit is maniulpulation,and perfectmoney feezes my funds it loooks same scam like payza.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: adoell on July 28, 2016, 12:51:20 PM
Yea i think also that payza,paypal and perfectmoney are scam.Paypal dont want remove my account if i donz have about couple $ to pay fee that isnt fairbit is maniulpulation,and perfectmoney feezes my funds it loooks same scam like payza.
there's nothing wrong with perfect money....


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: zend7 on July 28, 2016, 01:00:53 PM
I heard tha payza started to involve themselves into bitcoin a little while ago.
I have never register with them so I don't know if they only would do that because it was for a large sum of money.
So did Neteller but I never trusted them either.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Payza on July 28, 2016, 02:19:59 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/0fe9fc1db96298c2279190e707956f0a.png


Four days ago I received money from a friend, he is NOT involved in fraudulents transactions, I know him. Basically he sent me $900 USD coming from his bank account and I checked it , was directly uploaded from his bank account. Then he send me the $900 USD , then I decided to withdraw it... Waited 3 days and I got this email:

https://i.gyazo.com/11c081117f0374a1c14342a400789f35.png

Then I go to check my Payza balance, according what they said in the email it has been returned to "my balance"
https://i.gyazo.com/e155301458756e91439574de081d9701.png

As you can see, is not in my balance. Then now they say it has been reversed back to my friend's payza balance.

So, I ask him and I really tust him its my friend, we talk in Facebook, whatsapp and even skype everyday. So I ask him if he can see the payment returned to his account, he check it really quickly for me and it is not in his balance, and not even returned to his bank account.

Logic? Payza = SCAM

The funds just dissapear in the air, is not in my account, not in my friend's account, and not in his bank.

The Payza Privacy Policy prevents me from discussing the specifics of your case, but a quick check in our system shows quite a few inconsistencies between the story you are telling and what actually happened. Here is the story your screenshots tell:
1) Screenshot 1 shows that the transfer you received was reversed.
2) Payza informed you by email that your withdrawal was declined and the funds were returned to your account. When they reached your account, they were returned to their source when the initial transaction (from screenshot 1) was reversed.
3) The funds are not in your account and your account has been placed on hold.

Nowhere in your screenshots do you show that the source of these funds are legitimate although you make that claim. Nowhere do you show that the funds were not returned to their proper source, although you make that claim as well.

When fraud funds are discovered, we have no choice but to return them to their original source. In most cases this would NOT be the account that sent you the funds, but the actual funding method from where those funds originated (that is, the original credit card or bank account). Nowhere do you show that Payza has scammed anybody, in fact, the story you tell can be interpreted to show that Payza PREVENTED a scam by discovering and returning suspect funds.

Same happened to me a few months ago, when I requested a Bitcoin withdrawal they decilned it and reversed the transactions and said money comes from fraudulent sources, evryone in the chain has been reversed and the first sender is the only one who did not receive the money, so where did it go ? nobody knows.

Similar to OP, if those funds were reversed due to fraud, they would not be returned to the original sender's account, they would be sent back to their proper source.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Abiego on July 28, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/0fe9fc1db96298c2279190e707956f0a.png


Four days ago I received money from a friend, he is NOT involved in fraudulents transactions, I know him. Basically he sent me $900 USD coming from his bank account and I checked it , was directly uploaded from his bank account. Then he send me the $900 USD , then I decided to withdraw it... Waited 3 days and I got this email:

https://i.gyazo.com/11c081117f0374a1c14342a400789f35.png

Then I go to check my Payza balance, according what they said in the email it has been returned to "my balance"
https://i.gyazo.com/e155301458756e91439574de081d9701.png

As you can see, is not in my balance. Then now they say it has been reversed back to my friend's payza balance.

So, I ask him and I really tust him its my friend, we talk in Facebook, whatsapp and even skype everyday. So I ask him if he can see the payment returned to his account, he check it really quickly for me and it is not in his balance, and not even returned to his bank account.

Logic? Payza = SCAM

The funds just dissapear in the air, is not in my account, not in my friend's account, and not in his bank.

The Payza Privacy Policy prevents me from discussing the specifics of your case, but a quick check in our system shows quite a few inconsistencies between the story you are telling and what actually happened. Here is the story your screenshots tell:
1) Screenshot 1 shows that the transfer you received was reversed.
2) Payza informed you by email that your withdrawal was declined and the funds were returned to your account. When they reached your account, they were returned to their source when the initial transaction (from screenshot 1) was reversed.
3) The funds are not in your account and your account has been placed on hold.

Nowhere in your screenshots do you show that the source of these funds are legitimate although you make that claim. Nowhere do you show that the funds were not returned to their proper source, although you make that claim as well.

When fraud funds are discovered, we have no choice but to return them to their original source. In most cases this would NOT be the account that sent you the funds, but the actual funding method from where those funds originated (that is, the original credit card or bank account). Nowhere do you show that Payza has scammed anybody, in fact, the story you tell can be interpreted to show that Payza PREVENTED a scam by discovering and returning suspect funds.

Same happened to me a few months ago, when I requested a Bitcoin withdrawal they decilned it and reversed the transactions and said money comes from fraudulent sources, evryone in the chain has been reversed and the first sender is the only one who did not receive the money, so where did it go ? nobody knows.

Similar to OP, if those funds were reversed due to fraud, they would not be returned to the original sender's account, they would be sent back to their proper source.

My post was very clear when I said my friend funded his account with his bank and not from other sources, there is also a random restrictment in my account which I don't think I deserve it but however I'm not longer interested in using a service who do this kind of things and make funds dissapear in the air unless Payza give it back to me or to my friend's account.

I'm also paying high fees when using Payza , fees means I'm paying you for using the service and getting support which I'm not getting yet, not me and not even my friend who's asking the same question.

There is nothing to discuss, if you take only 10 seconds to go to google and write "Payza scam" there's a lot of cases like mine -> funds dissapear in the AIR after trying to withdraw them.

Instead of trying to fix this issue, or keep hidding a scam service, why don't payza act as a DECENT and LEGIT company? The fees are pretty high and I'm sure you can still earn money without stealing money from customers.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Dyatrev on July 28, 2016, 11:37:02 PM
question to payza where is your proof that show you send money to source?


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: StarsValley on August 02, 2016, 11:38:20 AM
Payza is considered as involved in shady activities, in the pas I was using it for my payment and at that time my income was lower and once I requested $50 from them to my bank and I received that to my bank but when My income increased I studied about that I found that we do not have to trust on payza for bigger amount, so now I am using Okpay.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Abiego on August 03, 2016, 05:52:01 AM
I'm still waiting the response of the ticket, NOT EVEN TOLD ME WHY I'M RESTRICTED.



Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Slow death on August 03, 2016, 01:11:34 PM
I'm still waiting the response of the ticket, NOT EVEN TOLD ME WHY I'M RESTRICTED.

...your account has been placed on hold.


I think that's the least of your problems, the real problem you should worry about is:

Ask your friend to show evidence of the origin of the money he sent you, so simple.

Ask your friend to make bank statement and print screen of his historical account of Payza which confirms that the money was his before sending you.

If you have nothing to hide, your problem will be resolved quickly.



Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: vodaljepa on August 03, 2016, 02:48:42 PM
Payza is a big scam when it comes to bitcoin, I also have been fucked by them for a lot of money


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on August 03, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Similar to OP, if those funds were reversed due to fraud, they would not be returned to the original sender's account, they would be sent back to their proper source.
Is this what a proper Payza account ? You're their official support ? Man fuck you and fuck Payza you guys are nothing less but bunch of scammers.All you have done is scamming poor people off their hard earned money.I worked almost 72 hours a week for my client and he paid me through Payza.When I requested my funds to be sent as bitcoin payment ,you guys asked me for a hell lot of details to which I provided my passport/driving license!After verification,you said the documents seemed to be false and asked me to provide legitimate documents.Now I wonder,what more legitimate documents can I provide ? This whole process took 35 days and on the 38th day I was finally paid after getting my account blocked by you scum fucks.Glad you don't have office in India,I'd put your company behind the bars in no time.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: erikalui on August 03, 2016, 04:36:08 PM
Payza lets people lose their money as they don't care about users and fraudsters escape easily without Payza taking any legal action against them.  Payza just tells me that the funds have been reversed and the sender is not responsible. Really? He's a scammer and I got to know this afterwards. It's sad that Payza doesn't share with me the fraudsters details to sack him and punish him so that he continues using their services to scam more people. I agree that Payza is trying to protect users whose funds were fraudulently take but why not punish the culprits too who robbed those funds? This is really an irresponsible thing to do where wallets raise up their hands even after their services were used for illegal transactions. They make victims suffer and be cheated.

Scammer's Skype ID: farawi14 (He's the fraudster and he is continuing to use Payza and other wallets to scam)


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: 1kaday on January 20, 2017, 09:50:49 PM
Payza is a big scam when it comes to bitcoin, I also have been fucked by them for a lot of money

I recently did a withdrawal to bitcoin, waited however many day they "need" to do the transaction. Got email stating it was completed yet no funds in my account! Been over a week now since I brought it to their attention still not resolved. I HATE Payza plus their stupid errors when you try to verify a bank account or withdrawal to a debit card ::) that have been going on for months. Once (if ever) I get my money i'm never using them again.


Title: Re: PAYZA SCAM | Payment processor | Scammed by Payza.com $900 USD
Post by: faradayz on January 20, 2017, 10:16:11 PM
Funds getting reversed is not that rare at all, any payment processor is reversing payments reported as fraudulent or using hacked CC's and it's not just PayPal but Skrill, Neteller and Payza as well. using a Payment processor is just not safe IMO.