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Title: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: bb113 on March 23, 2013, 11:34:57 PM
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7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Ekaros on March 23, 2013, 11:36:57 PM
Probably not legally... On other hand it seems to be kinda big for some people here...

So, I wouldn't think it would pass in any court anywhere.

Even if I feel that some people believe in it bit too much...


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: bb113 on March 23, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
Probably not legally... On other hand it seems to be kinda big for some people here...

So, I wouldn't think it would pass in any court anywhere.

Even if I feel that some people believe in it bit too much...

This is kind of what I was getting at. As far as I can tell there is a not insignificant number of people use bitcoin for purely ethical and moral reasons.

edit: edited quote because ekaros edited making it confusing, content pretty much the same


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Mike Christ on March 23, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
The issue with law, it can be interpreted any which ways you want it to be.  If the Supreme Court, as a joke, wanted to make Bitcoin into a religion, they could interpret it as such and legally recognize it as one.

Of course, this may be absurd, but considering the love and worship of the dollar...


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Lethn on March 23, 2013, 11:52:50 PM
Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now :D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: myrkul on March 24, 2013, 12:10:20 AM
Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now :D

At first I was like:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG

But then I

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/085/283/philosoraptor.jpg?1291090164

and now I'm like:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/384/buddy_christ.jpg


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: benjamindees on March 24, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
"Ayn Rand, with trappings"


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Jobe7 on March 25, 2013, 01:07:31 AM
The thinking isn't far off...  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=xnnOtdOcOFk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151820.0
"Bitcoin Millionaire" Max Keiser passionately heralds a 'second coming' in the form of "Cyber Christ", Bitcoin and its anonymous founder Satoshi Nakamoto.

I did laugh my ass off with joy, and actually agree with the sentiment.

Bitcoin has come to free us all with competition against the unchallenged, monopolistic Federal Reserve System.

Cyber Christ has returned, just like all those religions said he would :D

Funny you say that (and now that I've checked the youtube video).

Did you know that there existed a Pope that apparently had the gift of prophecy, back in the 12th Century. He predicted numerous popes through the centuries with often amazing accuracy (though not always correct). However, of note, he predicted the previous 6 Popes spot on, and then after these 6;

"The list ends with a pope identified as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will allegedly bring the destruction of the city of Rome and usher in the beginning of the Apocalypse."

Who is the now the next pope, and I believe it was 2 days after that youtube video was made that it was official.

The Prophecy of Malachi - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

Seriously, it exists, check it out.

I know the Vatican got taken over by the global banking empire during Napoleon's time, and I do think the Vatican has had a hand in altering 'stuff' and screwing around with stuff (I mean, religion, c'mon). So I expect the truth is actually the opposite of 'anti-christ', pfft, more like it was something like a positive great thing, but vatican and such changed it in the public view 'just in case' there was any truth to it and some dodgy geezer with strange powers appeared :D

I'm pretty much an atheist btw, but you gotta admit this shit is weird :D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: GambitBTC on March 25, 2013, 05:27:30 PM
Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now :D

This.


Extremely well put sir.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BADecker on April 05, 2017, 01:17:27 AM
Religion is different for everybody. People can go to the same church, read out of the same holy book, and never have the same understanding of their religion.

Because of this, some people have a religion in Bitcoin, and in others Bitcoin is only a part of their religion of life. Those who don't know about Bitcoin certainly don't have a religion in it.

8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: chris_nor on April 05, 2017, 06:24:47 AM
It's not, unless you're a Bitcoinmaximus. And even then, probably not.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: bra4our on April 05, 2017, 12:22:40 PM
No its not but Satoshi can be a religious figure if people want to worship whoever he is.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: gabmen on April 05, 2017, 01:31:57 PM
No its not but Satoshi can be a religious figure if people want to worship whoever he is.

Well no one considers facebook, or twitter or tge dollar as a form of religion. It doesn't mean that if a lot of people is fond or is using it it can pass as something that's being worshipped. People use these things to better their lives much like their use of bitcoin


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Lancusters on April 05, 2017, 09:10:04 PM
Bitcoin is the only religion which unites people. They are the representatives of all religions and atheists. We argue among themselves there is a God or not, but bitcoin is all we recognize. Maybe our God is a bitcoin?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: JGoRed on April 05, 2017, 09:18:04 PM
I'll answer a question with a question: Is USD or EURO a religion? Bitcoin is no religion, it is a decentralized currency. Although there seems to be a lot of people who treat it as a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: bangjoe on April 06, 2017, 01:10:25 AM
Currency = religion?
there is something wrong with thoughts in your head, this is indeed true, dude !!!
most global human opted for atheists and just assume currency is the best source of happiness in this world, the mindset of hedonic've messed up all physical elements in their bodies.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: GreenBits on April 06, 2017, 01:44:16 AM
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7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

No. Doesn't have a supernatural element (you can jokingly place Satoshi here), or a sacred/profane division. Lacks many other characteristics of a religion is well.

It could be defined as a social movement, however.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: malcovixeffect on April 06, 2017, 01:51:33 AM
Satoshism


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BADecker on April 06, 2017, 02:16:29 AM
Bitcoin, itself, is not a religion. At this stage of the Bitcoin game, there are some who act like it is a religion for them.

8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Nathanz on April 07, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
No. Bitcoin it's not a religion. Its just an extraordinary cryptocurrency. Yeah ,because bitcoin is the most powerful among the others.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Goliaf on April 07, 2017, 03:29:07 PM
I don't think that bitcoin is a religion. Because religion deceives people. Bitcoin is not lying. If he is what he is.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Eternu on April 07, 2017, 07:51:40 PM
I would not agree that Bitcoin is a religion, because for something to be a religion you need something that you believe in to, like higher force or something. And Bitcoin is non of that. Bitcoin is made by humans, so it can't be more than human product. It is maintained by humans and used by they also. There is nothing supernatural about bitcoin that can be worshiped as God or something. That is my opinion at least.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Maximilian_333 on April 07, 2017, 07:57:56 PM
Bitcoin in my opinion is the currency of the future. To religion it has nothing unless of course you are not God. But if so, then you are a heathen and worshiped many gods. Currency in the world a lot.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Kemarit on April 08, 2017, 04:52:54 AM
LOL. bitcoin is far my religion. Satoshi is not supernatural being. Although Satoshi remained to be a mystery, he doesn't qualify to be a or possess any supernatural character. We may have followed what he has started and uses it today but it doesn't mean he is a so called "God".  Even our belief on the scaling issue is different and there is no universal consensus prove that bitcoin is not a religion. As I said before, we just have to enjoy what he has started which is bitcoin and use it to what purpose it has to served us.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: prayogi on April 17, 2017, 04:29:21 PM
Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and worldviews that connect people to the order / command of life. Many religions have narrations, symbols and sacred histories intended to explain the meaning of life and / or explain the origin Life or the universe. From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people acquire the morality, ethics, religious law or preferred lifestyle. According to some estimates, there are about 4,200 religions in the world.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Kyraishi on April 17, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
Probably not legally... On other hand it seems to be kinda big for some people here...

So, I wouldn't think it would pass in any court anywhere.

Even if I feel that some people believe in it bit too much...
We actually have thousands of extremely strange religions, such as Flying Spaghetti Monster ( or something, lol ) or even more weird beliefs.

It is not possible for me to not agree with the part that some people believe in bitcoin domination too hard, we really have many people on this forum saying that bitcoin may destroy banks, and replace the fiat currency all over the world even in 3-4 years, which makes me laugh like a maniac, I cannot even understand how can you believe in such a nonsense?

For me, religion is something you shouldn't talk about, because every human being has right to believe in everything he wants, so I dont really care about it, I prefer to stay as a atheist.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Lancusters on April 17, 2017, 10:46:29 PM
Bitcoin is not a religion. Every religion is built on deception and belief in non-existent. Bitcoin is quite real. Even if for someone money is a religion that is very bad. Any money is evil when you are a slave to them.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: MissGrey on April 18, 2017, 06:35:56 AM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

No. Doesn't have a supernatural element (you can jokingly place Satoshi here), or a sacred/profane division. Lacks many other characteristics of a religion is well.

It could be defined as a social movement, however.

 Yeah, I agree with you, I also see it as a social movement and the life of many people practically revolves around Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: omonuyak on April 18, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Bitcoin is not a religion! It is a crypto currencies. Fiats money like dollar has been existing for long and there have never a time there are terms religion. Bitcoin is decentralized crypto currencies and is not issue by government or back up by government laws but by bitcoiners. We should not called thing names there are not.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Rembrandt on April 18, 2017, 09:36:03 AM
Yes, and this religion has their god - mathematics :D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: lousie9 on April 18, 2017, 10:15:58 AM
in world of business and work, we can consider bitcoin as a religion, which is to put it on worldly desires and bodily needs. Many people who live in urban areas and considers hedonist is the only way to satisfy. If we want to take it seriously, then you are one of the Saxon hedonism, it is good to develop a great interest in this business.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: shintosai on April 18, 2017, 10:19:07 AM
so dollars and other currency can be a religion too? well for me its not we are just here because we really seen good potentials coming out from this system and with the way we gain profits its became popular for most investors.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: jorneyflair on April 18, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
It is the same as with the money, because I would not hesitate to call bitcoin as a money. It is just in a different fashion.
The thing is that money can also be a religion, and in many "consumer" communities, it indeed is.
Everything is around the cash, because cash runs the world. People do everything to get it, they doesnt care if they have to do bad things for that.

Not many people will have any remorse to take dirty pile of cash, it is obvious that they dont care if it will give them a good, wealthy life am I right?

Yes, in my opinion bitcoin might be a religion for someone.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: meliodas on April 18, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now :D
hahaha LOL yeah it seems like we are a religion if we are going to put it in your point of view,
But I think Bitcoin is not really a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: pinkpanther03 on April 27, 2017, 08:47:22 PM
Bitcoin is not a religion, as we all know it is connected into a technology where many business are getting in touch with it because of the system it has when it comes to usage and features of bitcoin. Which is very far to religion belief ;)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Lieldoryn on April 27, 2017, 11:53:04 PM
I don't think that money is a religion. The worship of money can end very badly. I think bitcoin is a symbol of change and hope for a better life. I hope bitcoin will free us from the power of our rulers.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: crwth on April 28, 2017, 12:35:59 AM
When I saw this, I got to thinking, is MONEY a religion? I don't think so. Why should you worship something that is just paper with an agreed upon value? I think that's what destroys us as a person, not being able to fully be capable of what to do in our own ways. We get greedy so much that we forget that we shouldn't be like that.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Apened on April 28, 2017, 01:03:27 AM
When I saw this, I got to thinking, is MONEY a religion? I don't think so. Why should you worship something that is just paper with an agreed upon value? I think that's what destroys us as a person, not being able to fully be capable of what to do in our own ways. We get greedy so much that we forget that we shouldn't be like that.
Yes , money is not a religion thats why " money is the root of all evil" , Bitcoins is only created with a digital currency system so how eventually it becomes religion .But to be as one alternative currency in the world can unite us. Bitcoins can never be a religion its just a state of mind.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on April 28, 2017, 01:10:33 AM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

In short, no. Its a question only confused atheist would ask.

Bitcoin is a technological innovation. As such it generates interest as vehicle for quick profit (such is the case of majority of members here), followed by EGO of earlier adopters. Those along with minority of technocrats present sometimes "fetishizes" this technology to the point of obssesion. But that doesnt make it religion. Fashion? Perhaps.

Same thing happened back in the day during dot.com boom, before that to personal computer boom, to firearms boom. Etc. etc.

All of these people above will one day move to the next big thing or just will get old  ;)

Now, organized religion is something entirely different as it is not based around material possesions or avalaible technical equipment. Religion dictates upon indvidual strict belief system, that molds him into part of a community, something greater, that endures time and conflicts.

Bitcoin for the time being can complement religion XY as useful tool and vice versa. But those two are and will be separate things as they appeal to different parts of human psyche.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: SingAlong on April 28, 2017, 04:25:42 AM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

No. Doesn't have a supernatural element (you can jokingly place Satoshi here), or a sacred/profane division. Lacks many other characteristics of a religion is well.

It could be defined as a social movement, however.
Though it is not required having a supreme being known as God in the definition of "religious" and the example given to those still has its traditions like not eating something like that and to those who believe they worship a God. Believing and worshipping are words with different meaning. It does not mean that a lot of people believe in something let's say Bitcoin is still not considered as religion. These Bitcoin users are just hoping and looking forward of the nice future of Bitcoin ahead which they will benefit greatly from it.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Razzoel on April 28, 2017, 08:43:00 AM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

Maybe to some people, but for most of us BTC is a very good currency and investment!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Daniel91 on April 28, 2017, 09:14:14 AM
By definition, religion is an organized faith, an institution.
Faith means to believe in something supernatural, invisible, omnipotent and omnipresent.
By this standard, bitcoin is not faith or religion.
Yes, most of us trust bitcoin, have faith in bitcoin, but bitcoin is not new cult or sect :)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BTC STRATEGIST on April 29, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
A religion may be defined with its three great characteristics:
Believes and religious practices
The religious feeling i.e. faith
Unity in a community of those who share the same faith: the Church. It is what differentiates religion from magic.
 so yes you can consider at least according to me bitcoin as a religion. ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Barrymore on April 29, 2017, 06:10:22 PM
By definition, religion is an organized faith, an institution.
Faith means to believe in something supernatural, invisible, omnipotent and omnipresent.
By this standard, bitcoin is not faith or religion.
Yes, most of us trust bitcoin, have faith in bitcoin, but bitcoin is not new cult or sect :)
To be honest the range of fans bitcoin is very similar to a cult. There are so many people who don't know where it came from but blindly believe that bitcoin will replace all currencies of the world. Agree it is very similar to the belief in the supernatural.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: joromz1226 on April 30, 2017, 04:29:54 AM
Bitcoin is not a religion, nor related into religion no its not! Religion is very far in bitcoin. But the founder or creator of bitcoin can be a religious person or what, still unknown. Just all I know about this virtual currency it can be the world currency someday.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: bitcoinvestor on May 01, 2017, 07:44:09 AM
No its not but Satoshi can be a religious figure if people want to worship whoever he is.
I agree that bitcoin isn't religion but Satoshi can be religious. However, decentralized is a symbol of decentralized thought of the creator


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: zend7 on May 01, 2017, 07:47:43 AM
To me bitcoin is a second religion. I am active daily reading news for bitcoin and learning new things every day about it, just like Christians and Muslims are in their daily prayers.
If bitcoin isn't treated like a religion you won't go far with it, better to start thinking about it as a life savior after a few years when the price surely will skyrocket.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: anasis on May 01, 2017, 07:52:10 AM
No its not but Satoshi can be a religious figure if people want to worship whoever he is.
I agree that bitcoin isn't religion but Satoshi can be religious. However, decentralized is a symbol of decentralized thought of the creator
What can be common between Bitcoin and religion. These are two different things that are surrounded by completely different concepts, because Bitcoin is a high technology, a science that at some points rejects the Faith and the existence of God.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Alfa123 on May 01, 2017, 10:46:50 AM
No its not but Satoshi can be a religious figure if people want to worship whoever he is.
I agree that bitcoin isn't religion but Satoshi can be religious. However, decentralized is a symbol of decentralized thought of the creator
What can be common between Bitcoin and religion. These are two different things that are surrounded by completely different concepts, because Bitcoin is a high technology, a science that at some points rejects the Faith and the existence of God.

I agree. Bitcoin is not a religion and these two things simply can not be compared because of their too different concepts.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: swogerino on May 01, 2017, 10:53:17 AM
Greed nowadays is the prevailing feeling in the world together with envy. People are envious of each other all the time. Rich people like our bosses know only 1 God and that is money for them. For some people bitcoin is money and bitcoin is God for them. I don't think bitcoin is a religion but for some people it may just be.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Prohodimec on May 01, 2017, 11:43:12 AM
Greed nowadays is the prevailing feeling in the world together with envy. People are envious of each other all the time. Rich people like our bosses know only 1 God and that is money for them. For some people bitcoin is money and bitcoin is God for them. I don't think bitcoin is a religion but for some people it may just be.

It can only be for very greedy people who do not have other values other than money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: GideonGono on June 29, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
I think it is not religion. Religion is a community that have Lord who give they time for that. People who have religion follow who give their advice. Bitcoin, i think it is like a work or maybe you are child again that you didnt know everything so you need to study first. when you learn somehow from bitcoin you actually get work like life.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 29, 2017, 11:44:05 AM
Its not, the same political parties are not religions. Vehicle for profit? Yes. Medium of exchange? Yes. Fashionable? Maybe.

When those three intersect in some small-minded individuals - they can exhibit some cultist tendencies, but that still doesnt make for religion.

You see religion isnt merely faith. It is also organized value system, that puts human existence in the context of cosmic order. It gives belivers both rights and reponsibilities.

Bitcoin has none of that and never will.



Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: msarro on June 29, 2017, 12:12:47 PM
For me bitcoin is just an way of earning money which is possible today and may not be possible in future if it disappears and its not that big that it can become religion as religion is something more important to me then money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: kodes88 on June 29, 2017, 05:26:04 PM
this is kind of a joke? how can bitcoin become religion?whats the god is bitcin become religion?
bitcoin new era of technology,for payment,investement and research,this is should be a wonderfull ages for us,if bitcoin really used by all people and country,please don't talk unlogical things about bitcoin,it will give bad effect for bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Idrisu on June 29, 2017, 05:46:07 PM
I think bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and not set of spirit and because it a coins we should just limit it to money instead of spiritual it. Many experts that has analyze bitcoin find out that bitcoin is transparent and because of this any person with little knowledge of computer can easily make money from bitcoin without mystery.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Vika0170 on June 29, 2017, 07:29:51 PM
I think bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and not set of spirit and because it a coins we should just limit it to money instead of spiritual it. Many experts that has analyze bitcoin find out that bitcoin is transparent and because of this any person with little knowledge of computer can easily make money from bitcoin without mystery.

I, too, do not see any reason to compare bitcoins with religion. Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, that is, some good that makes the material life of people better.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: icol333 on June 30, 2017, 06:22:08 AM
But how if someday the currency of btc is extremely drop?  ??? How could we suffer such pain as buying a pizza with 10,000 btc  :'(

But yet, IN BITCOIN WE TRUST!!  ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on June 30, 2017, 08:48:14 AM
Bitcoin is not a religion but the most convenient and powerful form of payment ever created until now. Because of this many people see it as a religion in the sense that they follow it everyday just like it was a religion and are in touch with it every day just like religious people go to praying everyday.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Lancusters on June 30, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
It seems to me that you are not quite right. Actually between bitcoin and religion have in common. Both people come up with. Only there is a significant difference. Bitcoin brings benefits to their owners, and from religion, only one hurt.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: iram3130 on June 30, 2017, 11:25:27 AM
I think the OP meant in a different way like we say Cricket is a religion in India.
I don't think Bitcoin has developed itself to that stage now but hopefully in the future it'll be a religion and people from every race will support it's unique features.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Daniel91 on June 30, 2017, 02:47:50 PM
First, we have to answer question what is religion?
In my opinion, it's instituted form of faith.
Faith means to believe in something invisible, spiritual, something to gives us purpose of life, our creator...
With bitcoin, I don't think that we have instituted form of faith or something invisible, spiritual, that we are receiving purpose of life here.
So, bitcoin is not a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: ImHash on June 30, 2017, 04:52:46 PM
Satoshi was the prophet, Gavin and Roger were the traitors :D little Wu is the anti Satoshi and I am the wh*re of crypto instead of Babylon :D
Read the white paper for salvation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Eminem23 on June 30, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Satoshi was the prophet, Gavin and Roger were the traitors :D little Wu is the anti Satoshi and I am the wh*re of crypto instead of Babylon :D
Read the white paper for salvation.

And everyone is waiting for the second coming of Satoshi.
With a great desire, any phenomena can be built into the cult. And come up with a religion and rules. But I do not think that we need it


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BingoDog on June 30, 2017, 07:37:05 PM
How can bitcoin be religion, does it have a Good or some beliefs, prophets, saints? It has nothing to do with any kind of religion but with economy and the best way is to stay so. With so many religions in the world we realy don't need another usless one, don't you think so?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: popcorn1 on June 30, 2017, 07:42:29 PM
How can bitcoin be religion, does it have a Good or some beliefs, prophets, saints? It has nothing to do with any kind of religion but with economy and the best way is to stay so. With so many religions in the world we realy don't need another usless one, don't you think so?
does it have a Good or some beliefs, prophets, saints? ..YES

Loads of PROFITS and i am a SAINT ;D..

Always asking for a UNIVERSAL INCOME to help the poor and everyone on this planet ..
YES bit like JESUS ..

So you can call me saint popcorn1

UNIVERSAL INCOME for all thank you..
I wont ever forget NOT EVER.. A UNIVERSAL INCOME drum it in your BRAINS..


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: zhuiyi on July 01, 2017, 01:57:40 AM
I think it is a religion, because I see a lot of people believe it, such as the forum people, we are in the Cong Cong believers.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: hyunee on July 18, 2017, 11:46:03 PM
For me, it is not right to treat bitcoin as a religion. Yes, bitcoin helps you financially but does it helo you spirituality? Of course not. It is a legalized way in which your hard work really pays off.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: SugoiSenpai on July 19, 2017, 12:29:55 AM
A religion cannot be called a religion if it does not have God(s). We must not believe all words people say to us, sometimes they do not know the whole truth. From my studies Atheist religions such as Buddhism, Taoism, don't have any God(s) rather they believe in themselves, they philosophize. This is from my present learning from religions.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: lovesybitz on July 21, 2017, 06:10:36 AM
Bitcoin can never be a kind of religion, this maybe depend on the belief of the bitcoin enthusiast here.
And obviously it is not a religion or better yet it can never become a religion in the future. Because bitcoin is a type of business where anybody can had a chance to fulfill their dreams in life.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: nappoleon on July 21, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
No, but ETH is and their leader is Lord Vitalik.  ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: byusboy on July 21, 2017, 09:06:45 AM
religion is not based on science. so bitcoin is not.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Mr. Legendaris on July 21, 2017, 09:17:26 AM
It seems too much to make bitcoin as a religion, I think it is nothing more than money to pay and buy anything.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
bitcoin is a currency not religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: WallSinger on July 21, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
sure, I pray Bitcoin every day.......... WTF ?????


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: WallSinger on July 21, 2017, 02:25:54 PM
Satoshi was the prophet, Gavin and Roger were the traitors :D little Wu is the anti Satoshi and I am the wh*re of crypto instead of Babylon :D
Read the white paper for salvation.

Ethereum, Litecoin, Stratis, Lisk, Ripple, Monero, Dash, Waves, Aragon, SingularDTV, Komodo and Iconomi are apostles :-D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: WallSinger on July 21, 2017, 02:28:31 PM
Satoshi was the prophet, Gavin and Roger were the traitors :D little Wu is the anti Satoshi and I am the wh*re of crypto instead of Babylon :D
Read the white paper for salvation.

Ethereum, Litecoin, Stratis, Lisk, Ripple, Monero, Dash, Waves, Aragon, SingularDTV, Komodo and Iconomi are apostles :-D

I forget : Dollar is Devil, Fiat courrencies are demons !!!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: WallSinger on July 21, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Satoshi was the prophet, Gavin and Roger were the traitors :D little Wu is the anti Satoshi and I am the wh*re of crypto instead of Babylon :D
Read the white paper for salvation.

Ethereum, Litecoin, Stratis, Lisk, Ripple, Monero, Dash, Waves, Aragon, SingularDTV, Komodo and Iconomi are apostles :-D

I forget : Dollar is Devil, Fiat courrencies are demons !!!

Mmmm...... All that is becoming realistic........  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 03:54:02 PM
I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual. The longer you have spent in the cryptocurrency community, the more you will be able to identify with these statements.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Cyberbits on July 21, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
The Bitcoin network is simultaneously one of the most advanced motivation and incentive systems ever built, and one of the simplest ideas ever. Everyone remains an individual, but everyone contributes to the collective of an entirely independent monetary system. Nobody is in charge of Bitcoin, except cryptography and math. And mathematics, as Einstein famously said, is our insight into the mind of god.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: atago on July 21, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
It can be for some people, like everything can be.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Kotone on July 21, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
As the topic stated i don't think that bitcoin is a religion currency it is independed currency that the price are depends on dollar ,maybe there are some religion that believe into bitcoin also a religon as distinct religious of it as users it is the best to remain solo mode you gonna use it as individual person.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: therewolfslim on July 21, 2017, 11:38:39 PM
I think nowadays there are many ways to turn idea/things to a religion or cult. At least bitcoin is not "legally" a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: identifyuser on July 22, 2017, 06:16:57 AM
Yeah.. bitcoin is a new religion really, such as dollar


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: leirou on July 22, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

I don't agree with bitcoin being a religion it is just like a dollar being a religion then. But I think other people really worship money so does this bitcoin also symbolizes a currency .


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Emadm on July 22, 2017, 12:03:51 PM
This has been of interest to us as we are actually modelling ideologies and religions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2035149)

Religion comes from the Latin religare, meaning to bind together.

There are formal beliefs that make these up, but more than that typically a structure for these beliefs to shape the way that believers understand the world.

However, religions are typically founded on a belief in superhuman laws outside of observational experience, ie there is a greater order to things that we humans did not invent and cannot change (immutability!).

There is a line here, between laws that are considered divine, which formulate classical religions, and those that are viewed as natural, which inform modern ideological movements (for example, natural selection for the Nazis).

Against this backdrop I would say that there is an emergent religion of scientism in technology, specifically sub-churches in areas like AI where the singularity promises salvation for example in a techno-utopian way.

Bitcoin I don't think fits in to religion as there is not a belief in a divine law that underlies it, nor is there a belief that it is the "natural" way things should be.

It is definitely an ideology as the boosters of Bitcoin believe that this a superior mechanism for achieving certain goals (the only one of which is objectively certain is a non-censorship characteristic).

I'm looking forward to analysing this in more detail as we build the Ananas platform though, will be fascinating to pinpoint what differentiates belief in Ethereum from belief in Bitcoin and so on.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: The_prodigy on July 22, 2017, 12:16:02 PM
This has been of interest to us as we are actually modelling ideologies and religions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2035149)

Religion comes from the Latin religare, meaning to bind together.

There are formal beliefs that make these up, but more than that typically a structure for these beliefs to shape the way that believers understand the world.

However, religions are typically founded on a belief in superhuman laws outside of observational experience, ie there is a greater order to things that we humans did not invent and cannot change (immutability!).

There is a line here, between laws that are considered divine, which formulate classical religions, and those that are viewed as natural, which inform modern ideological movements (for example, natural selection for the Nazis).

Against this backdrop I would say that there is an emergent religion of scientism in technology, specifically sub-churches in areas like AI where the singularity promises salvation for example in a techno-utopian way.

Bitcoin I don't think fits in to religion as there is not a belief in a divine law that underlies it, nor is there a belief that it is the "natural" way things should be.

It is definitely an ideology as the boosters of Bitcoin believe that this a superior mechanism for achieving certain goals (the only one of which is objectively certain is a non-censorship characteristic).

I'm looking forward to analysing this in more detail as we build the Ananas platform though, will be fascinating to pinpoint what differentiates belief in Ethereum from belief in Bitcoin and so on.

I think bitcoin is more of a currency a way to earn money and profit. I think for jow it is too early to tell that it can form a cult or a following or a religion. This is kore of a ways to earn money that gives people something to work hard for.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: justmint on July 22, 2017, 12:35:21 PM
Bitcoin a religion ?
It is only a religion, if you want it to happen.
I think "cults" generally are a bad thing.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Armando on July 22, 2017, 12:41:30 PM
No, but ETH is and their leader is Lord Vitalik.  ;D

Well at least ETH has no units named "Vitaliks" as far as I'm concerned  ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mklost on July 22, 2017, 01:07:42 PM
Not like a religion but is a life style to some people with it everyday in mind.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Daniel91 on July 22, 2017, 01:50:39 PM
Purpose of religion is to connect humans with their origin, creator or God.
So, religion have spiritual purpose.
Bitcoin is not spiritual thing, faith or God.
It's simple virtual currency.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: AmiranAbdul on July 23, 2017, 12:16:13 PM
Perhaps for some, bitcoin will become a religion, but for me it is only a new generation currency and an opportunity to invest. For religion, a creator is needed, and this is only a coin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: jilin on July 23, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
Bit currency is a currency of circulation, people can use it to buy things, religion can be used to buy things, obviously not, so Bitcoin is not a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: elisabetheva on July 23, 2017, 02:49:34 PM
Does anyone think like that? It does not close the possibility of something like that !! But very unfortunate if you want to do and do things like that, do not run out thinking if you want to do like that?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Supreemo on July 23, 2017, 04:30:20 PM
,Why would such ideas such as this is a kind of religion come to mind? Anyway i think this is not one, as time also passes by, people want to survive this cruel world, this is not to say that they are giving importance about money but not. Most people also wants to earn just to survive poverty that kills humanity, as we could observe in our society in order to survive we need money, but how are we going to have them without risking their lives illegally? Well they have to work, and that's the reason why some strive here.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mostkey on July 23, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
Bit currency is a currency of circulation, people can use it to buy things, religion can be used to buy things, obviously not, so Bitcoin is not a religion.

It sounds very funny, when one considers bitcoin as a religion, and either on what basis it can say that, it is not logical, when others consider bitcoin as income, he says bitcoin is a religion  ???


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: 2pal34u on July 23, 2017, 06:35:19 PM
bitcoin is science, religion isnt.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: yohananaomi on July 23, 2017, 06:45:39 PM

Does anyone equate religion with bitcoin? maybe !! If for that I do not want to talk because for me bitcoin can not be equated with religion.
Religion is not and should not be traded like bitcoin. Religion is too sacred because it is the belief of someone who can not be traded.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: memephistopheles on July 23, 2017, 07:12:44 PM
BTC is far away from being a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: MySharktank5 on July 23, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
People now worship anything they want, so i don't see how BTC can't be turned into a religion. I mean, believe in what you want but don't try to introduce me to your "beliefs".


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: bcnaranjo on August 14, 2017, 08:11:42 AM
Bitcoin is not a religion, it is cryptocurrency which has been very promising. It raises the awareness of the block chain technology.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: neya on August 14, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
no its not a religion. because its not an spiritual porpuse.  its juag a superb virtual currency that help people to earn.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mvidetto on August 14, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
We can't call everything new "religion" guys. Come on


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: RVRovin on August 14, 2017, 04:22:14 PM
Satoshi is our Savior!!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Senkuli on August 14, 2017, 04:56:53 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html
Bitcoin is not a religion, bitcoin is a new breakthrough currency, where the development of bitcoin is good and begin to be recognized in various countries.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mickeybuddy27 on August 17, 2017, 06:12:41 PM
Bitcoin is not a religion, it is cryptocurrency which has been very promising. It raises the awareness of the block chain technology.

Right, bitcoin is a digital money. Money cannot be a religion, it produces by advance of technology. Bitcoin is not something to praise. We just believe that earning it will change the way we live along.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: SecretAgent000 on August 17, 2017, 06:34:23 PM
If bitcoin is a religion - I am a believer. Did I just stopped being an atheist?  :o


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Skillboard on August 17, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now :D

This topic title actually makes sense now.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Oo ako to on August 24, 2017, 01:49:45 AM
No. But I won't be surprised if some people started to worship bitcoin. Bitcoin has a really big impact to me especially when it comes to financially. Maybe some crazy group would create some cult and treat bitcoin like a creation of God or something like that.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: r0ach on August 24, 2017, 01:53:48 AM
Well lets see how religion is defined...

religion -

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods:
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms: faith ∑ belief ∑ worship ∑ creed ∑ sect ∑ church ∑ cult ∑ denomination
a particular system of faith and worship:
"the world's great religions"
a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance:
"consumerism is the new religion"


The passion that some people have about bitcoin can essentially be described as the last definition under religion...


so yeah bitcoin is a region to some people


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: StevenRA on August 24, 2017, 12:54:53 PM
Not for 99% of us.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: KrLos on August 24, 2017, 01:42:55 PM
Kind of! BTC affects the life of people , they wake up and go to sleep thinking about BTC


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: sukiho on August 24, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Bit coin at the moment is considers as the highest currency in the word and people tend to worship wealth, so why not considers bit coin as religion, people mining and trading should be considers as worship and praying.  8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Pasaway2701 on August 24, 2017, 05:33:16 PM
no its not a religion. because its not an spiritual porpuse.  its juag a superb virtual currency that help people to earn.

Right that bitcoin is not a religion to worship and praise. The use of bitcoin and its benefits give us hope to gain money that can support our needs. Bitcoin is just digital money


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: wh04m1 on August 24, 2017, 06:59:45 PM
It is not right to define Bitcoin as faith. Religions are dogmatic concepts. But we can question the bitcoin. We can change its source code the way we want it. But we can not change their religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: PanGiMoon on August 24, 2017, 07:29:45 PM
It is not right to define Bitcoin as faith. Religions are dogmatic concepts. But we can question the bitcoin. We can change its source code the way we want it. But we can not change their religion.

Why can not we change our religion? Some people abandon the Christian faith and accept Buddhism. And this is their own choice.
But bitcoin can not be called a religion. It's just a way to earn and payment system


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: eagleman on August 24, 2017, 08:21:35 PM
Damn what is with you people, anything that becomes popular you are putting some anything related to religion. And soon you'll say that Satoshi is a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: colossus on August 24, 2017, 10:09:01 PM
Bitcoin is real stuff. Isnt a religion a trust in something what u cant see?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: angaper on August 24, 2017, 10:20:54 PM
Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now :D

I would add the following:

-It was conceived to save the world from evil and secure a future of prosperity for those who accept it fully: -Check

-Believers tend to label nonbelievers as confused people who go the wrong way that leads to (financial) destruction, and their only hope is to repent and accept the new creed: -Check

-Those who have accepted the new creed make up a superior caste of Chosen who will one day reign over the unconverted: -Check


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: *MrPiP* on August 25, 2017, 01:20:48 AM
I think that bitcoin IS a religion. You hold it because you believe in the technology which brings a lot of value to the project. Biggest projects in human history became real only because of faith!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: supine on August 25, 2017, 01:37:40 AM
Probably not legally... On other hand it seems to be kinda big for some people here...

So, I wouldn't think it would pass in any court anywhere.

Even if I feel that some people believe in it bit too much...

I agreed sir, not a religion it's an example of people who wanted to earn. they can even work for it as real or a side job depend's on what they want it to be. some people believe it to be the real next generation but some are against it, but we don't know what they liked and dislike about bitcoin thinking of its a religion or not.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: linenoise on August 25, 2017, 02:24:27 AM
Anyone can become a minister by visiting the Universal Life Church website. Ulc.org  I"m sure with a little work you could actually make a church of the Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: SweZ on August 25, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
it would be a pretty young god but whatever ^^


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: dream_maker82 on August 25, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Bitcoin is a crypto currency, not a religion. In religion there must be a god and a scripture, and bitcoin can not provide it and it was created for a different purpose.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: wh04m1 on August 25, 2017, 08:03:44 PM
It is not right to define Bitcoin as faith. Religions are dogmatic concepts. But we can question the bitcoin. We can change its source code the way we want it. But we can not change their religion.

Why can not we change our religion? Some people abandon the Christian faith and accept Buddhism. And this is their own choice.
But bitcoin can not be called a religion. It's just a way to earn and payment system


We can change our religion. But religions generally refuse to interrogate. They want us to accept all existing teachings as they are.

Christianity, Islam and Judaism are all the same.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: SIMUEC on August 25, 2017, 08:51:07 PM
It's an addiction and a lifestyle, but real money, that can be raised with bitcoin, are.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BADecker on August 25, 2017, 11:45:48 PM
Is Bitcoin a religion?

Not for those who believe that God is controlling Bitcoin for their benefit.

8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: icol333 on August 27, 2017, 03:06:42 PM
If THIS "religion" can teach us how to be a good person, teach us how success can be achieved through a lot of hard work and patience, maybe it COULD be a new religion  ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: yakushev on August 27, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
Bitcoin can not be a religion as well as any other currency. In religion there must be rules, God, scriptures and places for prayers. No currency can provide this, because it is only a means of payment.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Skyrah2008 on August 27, 2017, 03:41:20 PM
Bitcoin is the only religion which unites people. They are the representatives of all religions and atheists. We argue among themselves there is a God or not, but bitcoin is all we recognize. Maybe our God is a bitcoin?
What are you talking about? Do you know what are you saying? God is not a bitcoin, bitcoin is just a digital currency where it can gives everbody an opportunity to have source of income but not creator of nature, neither the galaxy of the universe, bitcoin is maybe god in terms of technology but not in natural things made by God.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Coinmyjob on August 27, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
Is Bitcoin a religion?

Not for those who believe that God is controlling Bitcoin for their benefit.

8)

Bitcoin has his own god. Maybe his name is Saint Satoshi)))
But I would not have made a crypto currency religious


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Pandu Gleen on August 29, 2017, 10:20:47 AM
bitcoin is not a religion to worship and praise. The use of bitcoin and its benefits give us hope to gain money that can support our needs. Bitcoin is just digital money
Bitcoin It's an addiction and a lifestyle, but real money, that can be raised with bitcoin, are.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: FunshareNesialMLMPenipu on August 29, 2017, 10:29:47 AM
bitcoin not related about religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mobilezz on August 29, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
Bitcoin is a means of earning, not religion. Bitcoin believes that he can provide them with a better life. Gold also brings good profits, but it's not equated with religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: dali_masmoudi on August 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
We believe in it, but it is not a religion.
We believe that it is the greatest thing happened the last five years, but it is not qualified as a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Andy.P.GReen on September 26, 2017, 09:51:33 PM
NO


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: kkent on September 26, 2017, 11:46:42 PM
Absolutely not, USD and Euro aren't religion. BTC is just another currency, nothing of a religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: kie on September 27, 2017, 12:26:03 AM
Bitcoin will never be a religion because its all about works, money, exchange, services , all thing have an equal value to any services and the works of religion never depends on money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: ChopChops on September 27, 2017, 12:27:20 AM
Lol is obvious that is not, is more likely a payment method than a Religion, is an online payment decetralized method peer to peer, that's what it is


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: LeonardoDiCrypto on September 27, 2017, 01:13:17 AM
Satoshism

That's a nice one. It would deserve a thread of itself. Hey, perhaps I'll do it!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: coiner27 on September 27, 2017, 05:15:12 AM
no its not cuz bitcoin is digital coin not religion funny bro


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: hkg60796 on October 01, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
I do not think there is a religion to me religion that has a great spiritual meaning as well as faith for it. Bitcoin is a currency only if it is possible that it will replace gold if its price is more stable  :D :D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Daniel91 on October 01, 2017, 01:37:51 PM
I do not think there is a religion to me religion that has a great spiritual meaning as well as faith for it. Bitcoin is a currency only if it is possible that it will replace gold if its price is more stable  :D :D

I agree with you.
Religion is connected with our spiritual life, relationship with God, purpose of life etc.
Religion have purpose to give us internal guidance based on holy books and tradition.
We have faith in bitcoin, of course, but we also have faith in our country president, sport club, friend, our business etc.
We can't call it religion, of course.
It's different kind of faith.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Douglasyukanov on October 01, 2017, 01:52:43 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html
no, definitely not, bitcoin is not a religion, bitcoin is just a digital currency of human creation that is famous in some countries in the world which is indeed very good developments and is in demand by investors and bitcoin users.
bitcoin is not a religion and is not the same as religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: wRex on October 01, 2017, 02:18:26 PM
Bitcoin is not a religion, bitcoin is a cryptocurrency created by humans, used for transactions digitally. I am confused how bitcoin can be said as religion? may be able to say as our digital era now is ERA BITCOIN not religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: saffira on October 01, 2017, 02:22:41 PM
No, bitcoin is not a religion. For me, when you say religion, the first thing that comes in my mind is holyness, I mean, God.
Bitcoin is money , it is just a currency. There is no use to relate it with religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Nambuwan on October 26, 2017, 12:17:05 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.

I believe not, because a religion must have a god that they can worship. Yes bitcoin was kade by a group of people that has a goal to make the currency bigger but still it does not count as a religion.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: swordling143 on October 26, 2017, 02:14:04 PM
I don't think so. Religion is a very deep subject matter, and we should not compare or relate bitcoin to religion. Bitcoin is a form of online money or electronic money. It is far too relevant to religion. That's why I disagree. Although, I respect the beliefs of others with regards to this matter.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: crwth on October 31, 2017, 08:42:58 AM
I don't think so. Religion is a very deep subject matter, and we should not compare or relate bitcoin to religion. Bitcoin is a form of online money or electronic money. It is far too relevant to religion. That's why I disagree. Although, I respect the beliefs of others with regards to this matter.
It's just funny to think that a thing is a religion, maybe if you are talking about having a higher "Bitcoin God" then probably it could be considered as a religion but there is nothing like that. The creator of it is also just human and can't make anything about it but if there are people who treat Bitcoin as a religion, all out respect to you guys.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: AMHURSICKUS on October 31, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
No, its not, bitcoin is a type of crypto currency. And it is the most powerful in all crytocurrencies. Unless you call it a god then it will become a religion. Bitcoin is a verrg popular crypto currency and maybe that's why many people call it religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mikki14 on October 31, 2017, 10:10:28 AM
Nope, I don't see bitcoin as a religion. And why would it be? Who will you worship? Bitcoin? Satoshi? Will they save your souls??


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: OSISzig on October 31, 2017, 11:53:03 AM
I sue bitcoin to pay my bills, and transfer money. I don't really care if the value goes up or down, as long as it lessens my cost.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: topse on October 31, 2017, 11:56:09 AM
How could be?
Dear,  it never thought in my mind.
I just think that bitcoin is one of way to earn money,  it can be kind of job.
If it's religion,  what kind of religion is it.
No god,  no holy book even the  prophet.
It's like too much if some people thought bitcoin is a religion.
Lol.  If the cristians go to church,  moeslim go to mosque,  hindustan go to their own holy place.
So,  where should the bitcoiners go?  :D
But i really respect them who believe in it.
Whatever their belief,  but don't forget to think many tines and doing result.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Vilagra on October 31, 2017, 02:01:53 PM
Well kid, you should differentiate between belief and religion. I don't understand how this thought could ever come to your mind


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Ailmand on October 31, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html


I don't think so, laws, although are written exactly, can be interpreted in so many different ways, and the supreme court of each country being the primary tribunal to interpret a law ultimately. I think how they defined religion does not correlate with people who uses or supports bitcoins. It's not a matter of belief or morality why they do so follow the bitcoin market, but as a means to earn and to ultimately make a living. Therefore, it does not make it a religion, but more of a business or job.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Herdawnia on October 31, 2017, 03:45:40 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

Seriously? As far as I know Bitcoin is cryptocurrency , so technically a Currency. Your question is Currency a Religion? Well you cannot worship any other things except God, maybe in some prespective but for me its one way to earn money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Daniel91 on October 31, 2017, 04:11:26 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

Seriously? As far as I know Bitcoin is cryptocurrency , so technically a Currency. Your question is Currency a Religion? Well you cannot worship any other things except God, maybe in some prespective but for me its one way to earn money.

For individuals, purpose of life can be to earn money for their luxury life and they can believe that money can solve all their problems :)
Of course, it's very far from real religion, worship, temples or churches etc.
Still, in today's world for the most people money is more important than their own family or own faith.
So, bitcoin can be life purpose or goal for some people but still we can't call it religion.




Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Ahmiel1118 on October 31, 2017, 04:18:37 PM
no,bitcoin is a bussiness, to make the person got what they need in there everyday life,bitcoin is just like working in companies but the difference of bitcoin is you can work at home...


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Gosha.day on October 31, 2017, 04:33:35 PM
The BITCOIN is open to all, no matter what race or creed.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: wang_site on October 31, 2017, 05:50:21 PM
It could be that way, depending on every person in the bitcoin zone.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: exhu83 on October 31, 2017, 08:05:15 PM
Bitcoin is clearly an ideology for a lot of people. It was the first one, there are clearly better alternatives as far the technology is concerned, so yes not far away from a religion !


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: LeonardoDiCrypto on October 31, 2017, 10:17:57 PM
For some, Bitcoin is a coin. For others, Bitcoin is an illusion. For others, bitcoin is a dream coming true. For others, Bitcoin is a cult, aka a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: MommyElsa on October 31, 2017, 10:47:20 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

Definitely bitcoin is not religion, we do believe in bitcoin but we don't worship anything here. Religion tackles about the goodness of God and how does He works in our lives. Bitcoin is a digital currency that we do believe is our future that can provide us with a nice life in terms of financial status.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: salinizm on November 01, 2017, 04:38:36 AM
Naturally, bitcoin is not a religion but people believe bitcoin thanks to its great power of making people rich easily. Bitcoin gives people hope to become a rich person . That's why, people believe in bitcoin but they do not worship to it.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: st.lollipop91 on November 05, 2017, 11:00:10 AM
wow that's just wrong, guys. money can't be a religion  :o


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: CryptoEffective on November 05, 2017, 11:43:18 AM
Yes, for me its a religion.
I follow their rules. <3


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: SamPo on November 05, 2017, 12:18:26 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html


Ofcourse not bitcoin is not a religion. Bitcoin and religion is a different thing. Bitcpon is for financial support while religion includes GoD. We cannot compair the two because they are very different things.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mimibug on November 05, 2017, 12:34:04 PM
No, I don't think so  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: sana gull on November 05, 2017, 01:05:32 PM
Yes, for me its a religion.
I follow their rules. <3

i think you are wrong bitcoin is not like religion but yeah i agree with that bitcoin can help and makes life better but we cant compare it with religion. religion teach us how to have a good life while bitcoin only help when we work for them and religion doesn't need us.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BitSat on November 05, 2017, 03:40:55 PM
Yes, for me its a religion.
I follow their rules. <3

i think you are wrong bitcoin is not like religion but yeah i agree with that bitcoin can help and makes life better but we cant compare it with religion. religion teach us how to have a good life while bitcoin only help when we work for them and religion doesn't need us.
Yea Bitcoin is life changer for many peoples like me also but I never think this is religion because money never been on this place we need to have settle things for better life and society religion never need us to do any thing its doing by nature for centuries bitcoin is just for better life and independence in finances


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: soupyyo on November 07, 2017, 12:29:24 PM
I think nowadays there are many ways to turn idea/things to a religion or cult. At least bitcoin is not "legally" a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Mark Promo on November 07, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
Some people believe in bitcoin as sincerely as they do in God. Therefore, we can say that the crypto currency is a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Hendralam18 on November 07, 2017, 01:07:19 PM
Bitcoin is not religion, maybe some of us believe in Bitcoin will change our life or you can say can leads us to become success.  I could say bitcoin is some digital money without central bank and not controllable by any bank or government. Probably bitcoin will change our mindset so many person become addicted to earn bitcoin so some of them say bitcoin has become our religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: TraderRay on November 07, 2017, 01:21:54 PM
Bitcoin cult. Virgin offering to Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Bitcoininspace on November 07, 2017, 02:21:06 PM
Correctly am I understand that if I say that I have religious beliefs this will not mean that I am committed to any religion? so, bitcoin is a religion?  ???


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: CryptoX006 on November 07, 2017, 02:51:21 PM
I guess it could be a religion because religion is very subjective. Maybe it would be a religion for all of us if we actually invested when it all started and earned like 40 million... ;)?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: DRVX on November 23, 2017, 01:43:43 PM
I cannot refer Bitcoin to any religion. Even the greates fan of crypto consider it the best science.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: roshanfious on November 23, 2017, 01:51:13 PM
bitcoin is not a religion, we is a currency that can be used by us, so something can be used to do investment is not a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: nagatraju on November 23, 2017, 02:08:15 PM
it seems to me that bitcoin is more a philosophy than a religion) it unites gambling and money-loving people


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Master Third on December 11, 2017, 06:13:21 AM
For me absolutely not.
Since bitcoin is not for the religion why is it created .


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Yalovtsev on December 11, 2017, 07:27:23 AM
I don't consider it a religion,it's a new financial world order is a global sphere that completely minaet whole system familiar earlier,the age of automation,criptografice and digital technologies, and so on


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: berrygood on December 11, 2017, 07:36:02 AM
am I atheos ? I don't believe in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: FriddickPrime on December 11, 2017, 07:49:16 AM
As someone who is a Christian I can tell you 100% that bitcoin is NOT a religion

its just an investment tool or way to make payments


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: karabasss on December 11, 2017, 07:51:10 AM
For someone, it's just a religion or even a drug, although it's almost the same. People pump up the price by their demand for it and do not even see the real things, but they believe in what will be even better still. So it's like religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: congresowoman on December 11, 2017, 08:01:25 AM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html
No. Bitcoin is not a religion. Religion can only be for belief in God. That is my take. I don't worship bitcoin nor give praise to it. But I thank God for bitcoin because it had helped me a lot me and my family


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BitcoinFrik on December 11, 2017, 08:22:30 AM
I'd say it has similarities as a religion. It has value because we believe it has value :P


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: JDacer on December 11, 2017, 09:08:11 AM
no its the kind of fucking money up and down :p


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: ivan_8d on December 11, 2017, 10:31:15 AM
Is freedom religion? What is religion? I do not understand, because this quastion incorrect.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: NikitaSkublov0202 on December 11, 2017, 10:47:47 AM
The issue with law, it can be interpreted any which ways you want it to be.  If the Supreme Court, as a joke, wanted to make Bitcoin into a religion, they could interpret it as such and legally recognize it as one.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: xena2 on December 11, 2017, 10:55:59 AM
Probably not legally... On other hand it seems to be kinda big for some people here...

So, I wouldn't think it would pass in any court anywhere.

Even if I feel that some people believe in it bit too much...

This is kind of what I was getting at. As far as I can tell there is a not insignificant number of people use bitcoin for purely ethical and moral reasons.

edit: edited quote because ekaros edited making it confusing, content pretty much the same
No. But i have faith on it that it can help me in my financial struggles. And i really hope it does.But bitcoin is not a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: youarehere on December 24, 2017, 07:26:28 AM
no bitcoin its not a religion because bitcoin is community to help people to earn a better source of income and have a better life


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: darklus123 on December 24, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
The question is that are we worshiping bitcoin? Obviously  not then it is obviously not a religion. This ideas are just making those newbies more dumb rather than giving them a useful information. Don't complicate things man bitcoin is simply a currency, a platform


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: djangocoin on December 24, 2017, 02:41:26 PM
No. It's not a religion. It's a currency.

Now that that's settled ;)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: donnie.darko on December 24, 2017, 02:45:13 PM
Perhaps for some, bitcoin will become a religion, but for me it is only a new generation currency and an opportunity to invest. For religion, a creator is needed, and this is only a coin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BADecker on December 24, 2017, 08:32:20 PM
Is bitcoin a religion?

Not for ISIS. For ISIS it's a play thing. Why? Because they have all the money they want through U.S. funding.

8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: salamyman on December 24, 2017, 10:21:23 PM
LOL - you had to use the word religion - and BADecker is here for the fun.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Good tbc on December 24, 2017, 10:30:42 PM
No bitcoin is not a Religion It is a Currency, a cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: readygoaw on December 25, 2017, 08:14:25 PM
For me absolutely not.
Since bitcoin is not for the religion why is it created .

I think that bitcoin is not a religion. For me it is a tool for investment, and no more. If bitcoin disappears I will be upset, but not much.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: salamyman on December 25, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
Is religion a bitcoin? That's what I want to know.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: IntuitiveCoins on December 25, 2017, 08:28:05 PM
No, Bitcoin is a digital currency. The vast majority of people use it, buy it hoping that it will go up in value one day. They are not praying for it, nor will kill in the name of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Orino Suimuri on December 25, 2017, 11:17:21 PM
Of course it's not a religion, moreover that it not implies any kind of "god".
But in can be considered a "cult" as we all here are sharing a vision about a better future, with less power to banks and governments.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: tuliobrothers on December 26, 2017, 12:14:29 AM
Lol! Bitcoin is digital currency while religion is not a currency it's an organization that talks about the word of Jesus Christ.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Cryptophorus Columbus on December 26, 2017, 02:09:32 AM
Actually, what is a religion? Is something in which you trust.
In this sense, bitcoin could be a religion that promises to save you from banks domination.
Well, may be :-)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Naoko on December 26, 2017, 05:25:02 AM
religion implies a belief in the supernatural...bitcoin is too real, so that you can't call it a religion))


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Daytus on December 26, 2017, 05:30:07 AM
Really you ask that question?
Off course not. Bitcoin just a phenomenon in our generation I guess.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: FiveReels on December 26, 2017, 12:41:20 PM
I don;t think so. Religion I believe requires a God to worship. Are people already praising Bitcoin> What in the world and how did this happen?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: salamyman on December 26, 2017, 12:45:45 PM
Wi-fi is a religion - people gathering in groups and worshiping it.
Bitcoin not yet - we should make a bitcoin church for those that want it.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: DesmondHayes on December 26, 2017, 07:55:14 PM
I personally don't consider Bitcoin as the religion. It is the cryptocurrency that is situated in the money spot. Our world is very big and the population is rising every day and with that kind of rise, there are also many new religions that people are creating on their own. Everything can be considered as a religion but just a few of this religions are accepted by the government. Few percent of the people believes that the money is the religion for them cause they have plenty of it and their minds have absorbed the thoughts about the newly created religion that are overwhelming their minds without the real facts.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Musia on December 26, 2017, 08:11:11 PM
No way!!! It can not be a religion, it's just a way to make money, invest it and then, buy something for it. But this is only my point of view, no more. But I know many people, for whom it is still a religion and they refer to the means as to God. I think that this is not correct :(


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: salamyman on December 27, 2017, 02:34:30 PM
Why shouldn't it be?
I've heard the expression "the holy dollar" many times - so why not?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: doraegun on December 27, 2017, 04:13:40 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

Based on what you posted, it will,  but not totally a religion. maybe there are many people who are believing on it but I don't think that It will be a legal or accepted religion. There are many things here on Earth that we believed buit not a religion rather, as simple as that.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: JesusCryptos on December 27, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
The higher the price of bitcoin, the higher the hopes of the people that Bitcoin will make them rich, the more Bitcoin is turning into a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: salamyman on December 27, 2017, 10:17:24 PM
All hail bitcoin.
All bow.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: _Maksanter_1 on December 29, 2017, 12:50:55 AM
Never thought about it is that way, but you're right, now the more I thinking the more I tend to agree that bitcoin indeed has a lot of common with religion!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Godofblitzen on December 29, 2017, 07:15:31 AM
It's easy to make a religion from anything, as long as there are people that NEED it to be a religion. There are such people for BTC for sure, but that's the least of it's problems. And anyway, anything you call "religion" is fine as long as it's adepts act sane and don't start, let's say, human sacrifices (to the spirit of BTC... oh my!).


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Snub on December 29, 2017, 09:21:49 AM
Bitcoin is not exactly a religion. These are completely different concepts. You can not put them together.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Guapongbadoy on December 29, 2017, 12:08:10 PM
The word religion is a practice of spiritual things while bitcoin is investment and more on how to earn money not all about sptliritual. So bitcoin is not a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: DiabolicAnt on December 29, 2017, 12:12:17 PM
No, finally, I think it is not! Some just are too thankful to it...


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: GCP17 on December 29, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
I know what you mean... people are starting to act fanatic and preaching everywhere.

At the same time... it is kind of a big global event, so a reaction like this was expected.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Naoko on December 29, 2017, 04:16:53 PM
yes, fanaticism is sometimes present...but it is much where there...bitcoin is not a religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: domerosan10 on December 29, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
I think religion is a place where human collections are organized from beliefs, cultural systems, and worldviews that connect people to the order of life.  :)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Anco_Marzio on January 12, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
Well, may be it's not a religion, but sure bitcoin has some aspects of a cult: a lot of people - out of profit - are sharing a vision about a different and better world without slavery by banks and governments.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Tharel on January 12, 2018, 09:55:43 AM
Bitcoin is never a religion. Religion is a belief of how humanity starts, it also includes ritual practices which are widely acceptable and beliefs of the earth origin. While bitcoin is a way of making money online and it will never be a religion even if it makes a person the richest man on earth. No one should sacrifice their religion for the sake of money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: PIR on January 13, 2018, 05:39:51 AM
 I don't think it is a religion, as far as I know it's a new created system for the currency, a new way of investing, saving and trading money.. not through bank or paper money but digital currency..and its not a thing to be worship but rather to appreciate its system, and acknowledge the founder of it.. it's not a religion to have it own standard to belief with..it's just a plain crypto currency.. nothing more nothing less.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: red00 on January 14, 2018, 07:22:16 AM
for me no bitcoin is not a religion because bitcoin is digital currency that you can earn alot in many ways


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: pprun on January 14, 2018, 09:11:39 AM
Religion is a gods teachings and principles. Bitcoin is cryptocurrency one world crypto. Bitcoin is not a religion but rather coins of moneys and the world of total business.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: davidmike04 on January 14, 2018, 11:27:08 AM
Hell no, Though i think some people might worship it, because if u dont worship with any other religion or pratice and rather you dedicate your whole life to bitcoin you might as well be worshipping the said bitcoin.. Though i dont really think of Bitcoin as been a religion, but just as a means to greater economic evolution


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Andrej Peiboski on January 16, 2018, 10:25:48 AM
Of course bitcoin is not a religion, but a lot of people have a cultish approach, hoping in a kind of salvation or a better world from bitcoin


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: boakyei on January 16, 2018, 10:32:01 AM
I don't think so , how can bitcoin be a religion. Yes I understand that bitcoins get some people addicted but to say is a religion seems ridicules. What do you call your work you are so committed to a religion?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: yanxuanyunshan4 on January 22, 2018, 09:13:53 AM
I don't think bitcoin is a religion.

Religion is different for everyone. People can go to the same church, read from the same bible, and not have the same understanding of religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: _SENA_ on January 22, 2018, 09:51:42 AM
No bitcoin is not religion bitcoin is a source of money where we can earn in a good way and easy way.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: LexLuther on January 22, 2018, 12:51:44 PM
Seems so far like BTC HODL'ers are pretty religious about not selling...


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: oyeade56 on March 28, 2018, 07:52:03 PM
No,  it's a currency and nothing more but most investors took it as a way of life


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Pemburu1 on March 28, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
no, bitcoin is not a religion, religion is a belief and belief someone will be the creator. while bitcoin is a business / work that can make money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: toyski501 on March 28, 2018, 08:49:31 PM
This is a very weird question. Believing in the power of bitcoin is a lifestyle not a religion.  It's just like having a very good hobby that will let you earn.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Betheng10 on March 28, 2018, 09:01:08 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

I don't think we have a Bitcoin God that we worship. Religion is having beliefs based from Gods in which Satori is not. We believe in bitcoin's technology and it could affect our lives financially but it does not affect our beliefs and values.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: us11csalyer on March 29, 2018, 12:41:00 AM
I think there is too much hype around the bitcoin, but considering it a religion is too much. Indeed, many people go crazy because of crypto currency, but it's just big money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: udroxz on March 29, 2018, 01:07:40 AM
What are you talking about BTC is not a religion its is currency can trade its is a business please mention that business have no religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: reality18 on March 29, 2018, 02:01:30 AM
The ideology behind the invention of Bitcoin was not to create a religion but to create a revolutionary world where decentralization will gain root in financial transactions most especially in the digital world. However, some people acknowledge bitcoin and its concept as something with supreme power, thus, seeing Bitcoin as a God in their life. Perhaps, to such people, it is a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: tprabash on March 29, 2018, 03:41:36 AM
BTC is not a religion its is a investment instrument so don ask like this questions  :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: WorldBiz project on March 29, 2018, 04:27:24 AM
Would be fun to launch the ICO for a religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: saras008 on March 29, 2018, 05:02:32 AM
the da had anything to do at all between these two things. bitcoin is a part of the economy, while the private affairs of religion that we have with God. If these two things are connected then it will have no meaning at all.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BHX91 on March 29, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
Bitcoin is just a tool to support, to trade, to sell, and to trade. Maybe you do not believe bitcoin, maybe you do not have bitcoin, but the religion you have to believe, you must have religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: ayaayapotpot on March 29, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
Nope. Bitcoin is type of digital currency in which encryption techniques are used to regulate the generation of units of currency and verify the transfer of funds, operating independently of a central bank. bitcoin has become a hot commodity among speculators a unit of bitcoin.bitcoins can be used for online transactions between individuals. While religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: LovellaSai on April 01, 2018, 06:42:55 PM
I dont think we have reached that level where we could say that yes bitcoin is a religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: BADecker on April 01, 2018, 09:21:44 PM
Some people treat Bitcoin as though it were a religion.    8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Goethe on April 01, 2018, 11:26:03 PM
There is a good reason that explain that.
Bitcoin has shown that is possible to use a network of computers,connected via Internet,to build and maintain a set of valuable shared data without they need for a trusted authourity
Think about that:from a bunch of anonymous computers that have no reason to trust one other,an ironclad network has emerged that can support a whole currency.Literal money.
For some people money is a religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: ununoctiumprecipitate3 on April 02, 2018, 12:56:09 AM
It would be the shame to call a volatile and unrealiable preposterous as a religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: ayaayapotpot on April 02, 2018, 01:10:08 PM
Nope because A Religion is a set of beliefs that is held by a group of people. There are many different religions, each with a different set of beliefs. The beliefs are about the world and the people in it, about how they came into being, and what their purpose is. These beliefs are often linked to supernatural beings such as God, a number of gods or spirits. They may also be linked to an idea such as a path that the spirit of each person should take towards goodness, truth and duty. This is called spirituality. Each religion has different ideas about these things. Each religion also has a "moral code" which is a set of beliefs about how humans should act. Each religion usually has their own type of "devotions" when people worship or pray. They often have rituals (special things that are always done in the same way) for certain times of the year or certain times of a person's life.Other words that are used for religion are "faith" and "belief system. While bitcoin is Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and worldwide payment system. It is the first decentralized digital currency, as the system works without a central bank or single administrator. These two are two different thing.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: allergyunhappy on April 06, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
We worship everytime so that price falls down to the lowest at dip and highest at peak just like worshiping GOD


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: butlar44 on April 06, 2018, 12:24:28 PM
I don't think bitcoin is a religion. In fact, it has nothing to do with religion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: octagonsaute on April 06, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
Btcs was made by some extraordinary man who showed the way to use it and vanished. The man may be the GOD of btc


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: hotimbineh on April 08, 2018, 09:37:11 PM
do not go too far to interpret bitcoin because until now I know bitcoin can only be used in charity / project to help less fortunate people
not a religion and will never be a religion


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: nastthathapul on April 08, 2018, 09:52:08 PM
Quote
7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individualís eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

Really do applaud the effort and i'm loving the initiative....but there is no way in hell the IRS will ever let bitcoin or crypto be classified as a religious entity and be tax free. Think of how much tax revenue the money machine would miss out on if they did that.

Fiat corrupts all, the IRS is one of the most corrupt organizations in the US government.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: HelperAdvisorsLLP on April 10, 2018, 09:14:00 PM
well, we get the profit from bitcoin and it's not in our minds because of the traditions
there are also no rituals


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Jeffcwen on April 10, 2018, 10:23:10 PM
It is not a religion but most of its defenders are very dogmatic. And against dogma you can not have a reasonable discussion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: omozie on April 10, 2018, 11:16:29 PM
nah, there is no way bitcoin is a religion. At the time that law was made, bitcoin had not been created so it is out of the religion league.

THose some laws are restrospective, bitcoin is a controversial issue to be classified as a religion.

HMMM if it is, there will be religious fanatics all about.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: D Figgeroa on April 11, 2018, 12:09:38 AM
This was actually funny to read. It definitely could be because of how many people have faith and believe in it though.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Aristus on April 11, 2018, 11:14:10 AM
You know what? Bitcoin will never be a religion.Bitcoin is a "thing" not a belief system or a philosophy where in you can find it and here all the time in all religious group existing in this world. Also when we talk about religion we are talking about a group with rituals, traditions and some other activities.
If this is not the definition of bitcoin it is very clear that connecting religion to bitcoin is useless.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: squog on April 12, 2018, 04:43:20 AM
I don't think you could say that bitcoin or any other crypto currency is actually a religion. Maybe we could say that it is but only on the simplest and basest of criterions. There are no moral principles, guidelines, traditions and otherwise that could include bitcoin as a religion. Maybe if you actually worship money and you put a very high value on money then any form of money making endeavor is a religion to you. But otherwise, I'd stick with your garden variety Christianity or Islam


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Strongball on April 12, 2018, 04:26:37 PM
I think it doesn't quite resemble in any way. A lot are super supportive and loyal to bitcoins,
because it's a profit making tool. It does not relate and has nothing to do with each other.
Bitcoin helps and it provides, that's the best thing about it and it delivers. Though people
are drawn to it and it's growing in numbers. People pray for price increase and they keep
their hopes high. Sounds like religion. But not entirely, more like devotion.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Larster on April 12, 2018, 05:34:53 PM
This is the best insight I have heard off this week. It really is. It is all about the believers and prophets and no-logic dogma and masses. Satoshi is the new Jesus.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Da2ja3 on April 12, 2018, 06:10:56 PM
More of a movement


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: mmfiore on April 12, 2018, 09:55:17 PM
In a way i believe it is.

But only because the way it works (today!), is only within the liberal capitalist system which is himself impregnated with protestant culture.

So yeah.  8)


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Lehbane on April 12, 2018, 10:42:09 PM
For God's unbeliever then perhaps they considered it as one but for me it's not!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: spongegar on April 12, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
I mean if you treat money as a diety snd you actually think that bitcoin could save your very soul if you believe i one then bitcoin is a religion. It has like principles like stock going up, increasing gains, if you don't work you'll be punished by decreasing value of your portfolio. It alsk has a moral background, like HODL until your faith in that coin is rewarded. I know it could be kind of twisted and i over simplified the meaning of religion but then again, if you value money that much then it is a religion of sorts.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin a religion?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on April 19, 2018, 01:30:25 AM
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