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Title: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: xorxor on March 25, 2013, 12:49:24 AM
notroll.in : heavy ddos, page down, stratum massive rejects and long stops
coinotron : heavy ddos, page down,  long stops , ddos protection failed
litecoinpool : pool down , page up.
newozcoin : under attack, slow like snail massive rejects but some kind of working
ltcmine.ru :  down.  update : look's ok!


WTF!!!


edit:

look's like attack is over. for now.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: bitcoinnix on March 25, 2013, 12:50:36 AM
notroll.in : heavy ddos, page down, stratum massive rejects and long stops
coinotron : heavy ddos, page down,  long stops , ddos protection failed
litecoinpool : pool down , page up.
newozcoin : under attack, slow like snail massive rejects but some kind of working
ltcmine.ru : completely down


WTF!!!
Indeed.  Can confirm notroll.in and coinotron.  Sad.  Watch the notroll.in pool thread in this subforum for updates.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: qxzn on March 25, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
ltc.kattare.com seems ok


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: xorxor on March 25, 2013, 12:52:50 AM
kattare had 25% stales before attack so no need to attack there. of course correct me if those problems where corrected so i can jump to kattare[burnside's].


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Arbitrageur on March 25, 2013, 12:57:39 AM
so what does it mean? no LTC mining, no inflation, price goes up... :)


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Anon136 on March 25, 2013, 01:00:48 AM
doesnt seem to be effecting the price much.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: chriswen on March 25, 2013, 01:01:16 AM
so what does it mean? no LTC mining, no inflation, price goes up... :)

no it means someone can pump and dump  or double spend.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: tgsrge on March 25, 2013, 01:17:10 AM
no it means someone can pump and dump  or double spend.
no.  pools being ddosed !=51% attack being successfully pulled off. pools have been ddosed before, this is not the first and will not be the last pools are ddosed. people should always setup automatic failover (even to solo mining). the network hash rate does not seem to have been affected, as far as i can tell


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: xorxor on March 25, 2013, 01:20:46 AM
no it means someone can pump and dump  or double spend.
no.  pools being ddosed !=51% attack being successfully pulled off. pools have been ddosed before, this is not the first and will not be the last pools are ddosed. people should always setup automatic failover (even to solo mining). the network hash rate does not seem to have been affected, as far as i can tell

I have a failover and its not working now, also I just finished pool testing so i have 20 configuration files for many combination of pools and... cant find working one.

I'm on ozcoin now, which is under attack for a long time now, and getting 7% rejects + 4% fee its a drastic 89% efficiency.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: cdog on March 25, 2013, 01:25:32 AM
coinotron does appear to be processing shares now, but the website is up and down.

This looks like a major coordinated attack. But even if we all have to solomine until eternity, they cant stop the Litecoins from flowing...


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: tacotime on March 25, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
ltcmine.ru is up, been accepting shares throughout the attack too

Someone's trying to game the difficulty, looks like it's not working all that well as many pools are surviving, coinotron and notroll are all still accepting shares, all the other pools are still giving/accepting work


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: FTWbitcoinFTW on March 25, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153460.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153460.0)

http://ano.lolcathost.org/thumbs//costanzaPopcorn.gif


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: tacotime on March 25, 2013, 01:32:58 AM
Lame 51% attempt is lame


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: xorxor on March 25, 2013, 01:33:36 AM
ltcmine.ru is up, been accepting shares throughout the attack too

Someone's trying to game the difficulty, looks like it's not working all that well as many pools are surviving, coinotron and notroll are all still accepting shares, all the other pools are still giving/accepting work


yes, read the OP. they are accepting some but have a lot of long pauses , up to few minutes.   and even when accepting the rejects rate is really bad.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Amitabh S on March 25, 2013, 01:37:08 AM
Can such a thing happen to btc? Why (not)?


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: xorxor on March 25, 2013, 01:40:33 AM
ltcmine.ru seems fine, switching


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: tgsrge on March 25, 2013, 01:43:51 AM
Can such a thing happen to btc? Why (not)?
yes. bitcoin is atleast theoretically even more vulnerable to this due to all the centralization and fewer and fewer pools and people having bigger and bigger share of the total network hash rate. all it would take is a few pool operators colluding (or even a few pools having their systems compromised/taken over) to potentially 51% the bitcoin network.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: jasinlee on March 25, 2013, 02:20:47 AM
http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,54 (http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,54)

Just solo mine, no ddos worries then.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: xorxor on March 25, 2013, 02:26:40 AM
litecoinpool hashrate is up, coinotron page is up.   looks like its over. massive but short.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: hope2907 on March 25, 2013, 02:28:41 AM
notroll still accept share =)) if some one plan to ddos all pool and think they have a change to 51% attack, think about it=))


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: allthingsluxury on March 25, 2013, 04:44:48 AM
http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,54 (http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,54)

Just solo mine, no ddos worries then.

True.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Balthazar on March 25, 2013, 06:46:13 AM
I think that it was just a free DDoSer services test. They will back soon, when attackers will be paid for the real attack. So, switching to solo or p2pool is recommended as soon as possible, for the next few days.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: szita2000 on March 25, 2013, 07:42:08 AM
Notroll is accepting shares, but website is still down.
Wonder what will this do to the price.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: cdog on March 25, 2013, 07:53:40 AM
Price looks healthy, I think this all was just a blip in the litecoin rocketship exiting the atmosphere


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Scratch on March 25, 2013, 11:13:27 AM
Tenner says Knowledgeable got pissed off when we slagged him for his 51% thread and thus DDOS'd everything. 


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: FixDragonsTalePlease on March 25, 2013, 11:17:29 AM
If only you knew  ::)


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: shinkicker on March 25, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
If only you know  ::)

I also had the same thought. There seems to be a loit of animosity to litecoin, which has just made me even more interested in litecoin now.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: FixDragonsTalePlease on March 26, 2013, 07:55:26 AM
Typo there..

I mean If only you knew...

As in I know who DDoSed the pools...

anyways...  ::)


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Rubberduckie on March 26, 2013, 08:18:36 AM
Typo there..

I mean If only you knew...

As in I know who DDoSed the pools...

anyways...  ::)

Do tell, is it our bible bashing friend Luke?


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: FixDragonsTalePlease on March 26, 2013, 08:24:02 AM
Nope and I'm not gonna tell you who it is  ;D


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: hanzac on March 26, 2013, 08:40:35 AM
So this is the fresh team for DDoS?


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: sd on March 26, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
So this is the fresh team for DDoS?

At the risk of stating the obvious peer2peer is inherently DDOS resistant. The problem is mining pools.

Solo mine or use p2pool and you don't have to spend a second worrying about DDOS attacks. Or configure a failover to p2pool or solo mining if you must use a mining pool.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: hanzac on March 26, 2013, 09:41:08 AM
Right, p2pool is one choice.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: bitcoinnix on March 26, 2013, 12:45:05 PM
Right, p2pool is one choice.

Replying with p2pool website as a note to self for when I get home:  http://www.p2pool.org/static/


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Scratch on March 26, 2013, 01:35:13 PM
Notroll is very slow for me today and having slow submits from my miners....another attack?


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: wtfvanity on March 26, 2013, 01:52:31 PM
WTF!!!

Sorry, I don't follow the alt currencies sub forum too much, did you call my name? What's up?


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Nicksasa on March 26, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
Notroll is very slow for me today and having slow submits from my miners....another attack?
Yep.   :-[


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Bitobsessed on March 26, 2013, 02:52:57 PM
I have a feeling it is someone with a pool attacking these larger pools to get more for themselves.  Just a guess...


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: yochdog on March 26, 2013, 03:12:29 PM
Motherfucker.  Now all my pools, including fail overs are down.  When are the big operators going to get some decent DDOS protection? 


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: coinotron on March 26, 2013, 03:46:46 PM
Motherfucker.  Now all my pools, including fail overs are down.  When are the big operators going to get some decent DDOS protection? 

DDOS protection costs a lot. Only biggest BTC pools can afford it.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Nicksasa on March 26, 2013, 03:50:33 PM
Motherfucker.  Now all my pools, including fail overs are down.  When are the big operators going to get some decent DDOS protection? 

DDOS protection costs a lot. Only biggest BTC pools can afford it.
Exactly, and even then, even btcguild has no *paid* ddos protection.


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: Deslock Darkstar on March 26, 2013, 04:05:28 PM
Well, that would explain why my connection conked out last night while I was at work, and I guess why my results have been pitiful so far (just started mining a couple days ago). What a time to start, huh? Here I was thinking I must have had my settings all screwed up or something.... though, I probably still don't have them set right. :-/


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: coffeebee on March 26, 2013, 04:23:17 PM
P2Pool FTW  ;D


Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: bitcoinnix on March 26, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
CloudFlare.com has a free plan:
https://www.cloudflare.com/plans



Title: Re: WTF! all ltc pools under attack!!!
Post by: wtfvanity on March 26, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
CloudFlare.com has a free plan:
https://www.cloudflare.com/plans



Read the plans better, the free plan has no DDoS mitigation.