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Title: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 03, 2016, 07:03:32 PM
CØSMOS

Building a network of blockchains

Purpose

Cosmos is a project with an ambitious mission: To create a network of distributed ledgers that will solve long-standing problems in the cryptocurrency and blockchain communities.

Architecture

The Cosmos network consists of many independent, parallel blockchains, called zones, each powered by classical Byzantine fault-tolerant (BFT) consensus protocols like Tendermint (already used by platforms like ErisDB). Some zones act as hubs with respect to other zones, allowing many zones to interoperate through a shared hub. The architecture is a more general application of the Bitcoin sidechains concept, using classic BFT and Proof-of-Stake algorithms, instead of Proof-of-Work (see our whitepaper for more details).

Cosmos Hub

The first blockchain in the Cosmos network is the Cosmos hub. The Cosmos hub connects to zones via the novel IBC (inter-blockchain communication) protocol and keeps a record of the total number of tokens in each zone. Because all inter-zone token transfers go through the Cosmos hub, you can transfer tokens from one zone to another, quickly and securely, without the need for a liquid exchange or a trusted third party between zones.

The Cosmos hub can connect to many different kinds of zones, as long as each zone speaks IBC. As a result, Cosmos can support a variety of currencies and scripting languages like those found in Bitcoin, Ethereum, ZeroCash, CryptoNote, and more.


  https://cosmos.network/static/images/ex_dist_exchange_h180.png

Interoperability

Cosmos can interoperate with multiple other applications and cryptocurrencies, something other blockchains can’t do well. By creating a new zone, you can plug any blockchain system into the Cosmos hub and pass tokens back and forth between those zones, without the need for an intermediary.

For example, if you wanted to trade bitcoins for ether today, you would have to sell your bitcoins for a fiat currency on an open exchange and then use that fiat currency to buy ether on another exchange. The problem is, many of our exchanges today are plagued by hacks, theft, and cons. Two prime examples are what happened at Mt. Gox and more recently Bitfinex.


  https://cosmos.network/static/images/ex_evm_sharding_h180.png

Scalability

Scaling is another open issue for blockchains. Both Ethereum and Bitcoin support only a fraction of the transactions seen daily on payment networks like Visa or Mastercard. In contrast, zones allow Cosmos to scale out indefinitely. If your transaction speed slows in one zone because too many people are using it, you simply add another zone to the hub and direct half the users over that zone, thereby doubling your transaction speed. Meanwhile, the Cosmos hub ensures that any zones connected to it remain in sync.


  https://cosmos.network/static/images/ex_evm_upgrading_h80.png

Upgradability

Another problem blockchains run into is how to handle upgrades when new versions come out. Getting all of the validators (“miners” in the case of Bitcoin) to upgrade to a new version of a blockchain simultaneously is tricky, and could lead to hard forks. This is exactly what happened when Ethereum hard-forked into ETH and ETC due to political/governance issues surrounding the DAO hack. With Cosmos, upgrading is not an issue. You simply plug a new zone into the Cosmos hub, and invite users to move their funds over to it at their leisure.


  https://cosmos.network/static/images/ex_network_h200.png

Decentralization

One of the great tragedies of cryptocurrencies today has been their failure to interoperate with existing systems — and each other. Cosmos offers a way to link them together, but without creating a new centralized clearinghouse or exchange.

Cosmos is built on principles of cryptography, sound economics, consensus theory, transparency, and accountability to serve as a new foundation for our future financial systems.

You can use Cosmos as a testing ground for a new cryptocurrency design, an upgrade to an existing cryptocurrency, as a means for decentralized exchange, or as a platform for scalable smart contracts.

Cosmos is not just a single distributed ledger, and the Cosmos hub isn't a walled garden or the center of its universe — anyone can use this protocol to create their own hub to compete with Cosmos in a free market of blockchains

The only question is, what will you build on Cosmos?

Contact

Site - http://cosmos.network
Twitter - http://twitter.com/cosmos_hq
Slack - http://forum.tendermint.com:3000/
Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ytzLX-2EE

Announcements

Watch the Cosmos video!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ytzLX-2EE


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: shadabahmed on September 03, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
dev is there any bounty for translations?
if yes than i will do hindi indian translation.
and goodluck for ur project, seems like it will good


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: notsofast on September 03, 2016, 07:20:08 PM
Hey dev, is this a fork of Blocknet? Or are you creating your own interoperability protocol from scratch?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: fitraok09 on September 03, 2016, 07:22:06 PM
I would reserve to an Indonesian translation.
you can see : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1562709.0
this is my testimonial and reference  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: ocminer on September 03, 2016, 07:33:05 PM
Is there a bounty for posting in this thread?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 03, 2016, 07:40:00 PM
Hey dev, is this a fork of Blocknet? Or are you creating your own interoperability protocol from scratch?

It's an implementation from scratch.  I'm the one of the main devs.  We've been building http://github.com/tendermint/tendermint since 2014.  It's a high performance BFT consensus/blockchain engine written in Golang from scratch, with an eye toward good software architecture.  http://github.com/tendermint/tmsp lets us write the blockchain logic in any language.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 03, 2016, 07:48:34 PM
This project looks really nice. One question for you dev. Will there be any translation bounties?

We will pay for good translations.  If you want to apply, first try translating the introduction of this whitepaper.

https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos/blob/6a15f001eac3cbceb0765b5b03b28a998acdc41a/WHITEPAPER.md

Don't post it here, just email it to us at translations@cosmos.network with subject "Whitepaper intro translation in YOUR_LANGUAGE".

Cheers =J


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: fitraok09 on September 03, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
This project looks really nice. One question for you dev. Will there be any translation bounties?

We will pay for good translations.  If you want to apply, first try translating the introduction of this whitepaper.

https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos/blob/6a15f001eac3cbceb0765b5b03b28a998acdc41a/WHITEPAPER.md

Don't post it here, just email it to us at translations@cosmos.network with subject "Whitepaper intro translation in YOUR_LANGUAGE".

Cheers =J

Interested. I will translate your whitepaper now :)
Indonesian will be reserve to me okay  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: klarki on September 03, 2016, 08:32:59 PM

And would other bounties? (Twitter, avatar)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on September 03, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
Email sent for Filipino translation work request


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: maldini on September 03, 2016, 10:25:26 PM
where link wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: ricku on September 03, 2016, 10:47:49 PM
This announcement look really simple but complex, do you have any bounty ? i cannot see any link to the wallet, have you launched or this is just a pre - announcement thread?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on September 03, 2016, 11:59:24 PM
Done and sent translation of Introduction from whitepaper to Filipino Language


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: ShooterXD on September 04, 2016, 12:03:15 AM
This project looks really nice. One question for you dev. Will there be any translation bounties?

We will pay for good translations.  If you want to apply, first try translating the introduction of this whitepaper.

https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos/blob/6a15f001eac3cbceb0765b5b03b28a998acdc41a/WHITEPAPER.md

Don't post it here, just email it to us at translations@cosmos.network with subject "Whitepaper intro translation in YOUR_LANGUAGE".

Cheers =J

I got this, tomorrow ill work on this.

Cya


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Bannedseller on September 04, 2016, 03:17:59 AM
Very promising project.
Watch today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krAQzN6tbc where Ethan start with Rap bitcoin song  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: MoneyJ on September 04, 2016, 03:20:36 AM
Very interesting concept I may say. I'll be tracking on this.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: dodofelix on September 04, 2016, 01:12:57 PM
Surely I'll follow


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: SONICGEAR on September 04, 2016, 01:33:08 PM
Is there a bounty for posting in this thread?

lol it's fun  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: josefelix on September 04, 2016, 01:36:34 PM
dev looking for more info! twitter or face bounties? thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: playerbtc on September 04, 2016, 01:41:48 PM
Good to see a new concept after a long time. following now,waiting for some airdrop  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Flomess on September 04, 2016, 01:49:04 PM
Interesting project, keeping an eye on this


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: cowboys on September 04, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
is this the cosmos mentioned in the par.io paper? 


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 04, 2016, 08:27:25 PM
is this the cosmos mentioned in the par.io paper? 

Yes


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Bannedseller on September 05, 2016, 04:56:06 AM
is this the cosmos mentioned in the par.io paper? 

Yes
I just read few pages from their whitepaper. PAR already invested in Tendermint.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: lestherat on September 05, 2016, 01:31:12 PM
Looks like decentralized wallets are the hype for the last months.

Your ann need to be more attractive.

You must show your face and the face of your team if exist, man, you want a crowfund of 9 million dollars. Please show who are you.

We are tired of anonymous developers.

Watching this.



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: cryptospreader on September 05, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
Good luck first of all for your venture. I wish to see one another successful crowfunded project from this thread. Keep going. Don't give up.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Cryptorials on September 05, 2016, 03:09:19 PM
Looks really interesting.

I had to read the crowdsale info page a couple of times to understand it though and just to make sure I'm clear now:

 A 'bonded atom holder' is just someone who has voted for a validator, or is a validator, and therefore gets rewards? And getting 'unbonded' just means you don't get those rewards anymore? There is no definition of these terms so its very confusing.

Also there is a section which says: "One third of the total number of atoms will be distributed back to the bonded atom holders for having a stake in consensus. This is a tax (disincentive) for not putting atoms at stake, and not participating in governance during the first two years after genesis. " I presume this actually means one-third of the block reward rather than one-third of the total number of atoms?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Bannedseller on September 05, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Looks like decentralized wallets are the hype for the last months.

Your ann need to be more attractive.

You must show your face and the face of your team if exist, man, you want a crowfund of 9 million dollars. Please show who are you.

We are tired of anonymous developers.

Watching this.



You can have check their web Site
http://tendermint.com/about/
many presentations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFVh1DIKds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYX7VIVz578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krAQzN6tbc
and much more ...


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: join2 on September 05, 2016, 03:35:24 PM
good
i will bookmarks this thread
 ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: quehuaiknrzr602 on September 05, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
I think you should provide more imformation


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Sam123 on September 05, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
I think you should provide more imformation

Check http://tendermint.com/


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 05, 2016, 04:02:29 PM
Looks really interesting.

I had to read the crowdsale info page a couple of times to understand it though and just to make sure I'm clear now:

 A 'bonded atom holder' is just someone who has voted for a validator, or is a validator, and therefore gets rewards? And getting 'unbonded' just means you don't get those rewards anymore? There is no definition of these terms so its very confusing.

Also there is a section which says: "One third of the total number of atoms will be distributed back to the bonded atom holders for having a stake in consensus. This is a tax (disincentive) for not putting atoms at stake, and not participating in governance during the first two years after genesis. " I presume this actually means one-third of the block reward rather than one-third of the total number of atoms?

Thanks for your questions.  A bonded atom holder (or bonded stakeholder) is someone who put their atoms at stake by posting collateral with those atoms.  These atoms are said to be "held in bond".  Bonded atoms can't move unless they've become inactivated, and wait the "unbonding period".  Then they become unbonded and can be moved freely.  This is partially what solves the "nothing at stake" problem.  (Bonding is not a sufficient solution to the nothing at stake problem, the other solution is "fork-accountable" BFT consensus.)

A bonded atom holder earns inflationary rewards and tx fees, in proportion to how many atoms they have bonded (compared to the total number of other bonded atom).  Getting unbonded means waiting the "unbonding period", and yes, during the wait time and afterwards you are no longer earning rewards or tx fees.  In short, you're earning rewards and fees only if you put your tokens "at stake".

Block rewards and transaction fees *only* go to the bonded atom holders.  Besides the tx fees, there are inflationary atoms that are given to the bonded atom holders.  Every year, 1/3 of the total atom supply is inflated and given to the bonded atom holders.  As you can see, atoms are not a good store of value -- if you're not using them, putting them at stake by running a validator or delegating to other validators, you're paying the inflation tax.

Atoms aren't a good store of value, but other tokens on Cosmos may very well be.  If you just want to hodl, atoms aren't for you.  Otoh, if you want to have good op-sec and help secure the Cosmos zones, or if you think you know how to determine which validators are more likely to succeed/get-hacked, then atoms are for you.

Atoms are like virtualized proof-of-work miners.  There's no point holding them if you're not going to use them.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: killerjoegreece on September 05, 2016, 04:23:24 PM
This project looks really nice. One question for you dev. Will there be any translation bounties?

We will pay for good translations.  If you want to apply, first try translating the introduction of this whitepaper.

https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos/blob/6a15f001eac3cbceb0765b5b03b28a998acdc41a/WHITEPAPER.md

Don't post it here, just email it to us at translations@cosmos.network with subject "Whitepaper intro translation in YOUR_LANGUAGE".

Cheers =J

done but have received no answer. waiting on answer :D


EDIT: i got answer on email. the guys are looking into it and are validating my work :D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 05, 2016, 04:23:47 PM
Looks like decentralized wallets are the hype for the last months.

We're not about decentralized wallets :) What makes you say that?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: pugilist555 on September 05, 2016, 04:51:47 PM
Introduction for Hindi (indian) translation has been emailed.

Also, The crowdfund will be uncapped for the first 24 hours, but then capped at $9M equivalent of bitcoins after the first 24 hours. After 24 hours since the beginning of the crowdfund, when the total amount raised exceeds $9M given the price of bitcoin at 9am PDT the morning of, or after 42 days, whichever comes first, the crowdfund will immediately stop.

So the Cap amount is $9m + First 24 Hours funds collected? What is the bonus for investing in the initial 24 hours?



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 05, 2016, 05:06:01 PM
Also, The crowdfund will be uncapped for the first 24 hours, but then capped at $9M equivalent of bitcoins after the first 24 hours. After 24 hours since the beginning of the crowdfund, when the total amount raised exceeds $9M given the price of bitcoin at 9am PDT the morning of, or after 42 days, whichever comes first, the crowdfund will immediately stop.

So the Cap amount is $9m + First 24 Hours funds collected? What is the bonus for investing in the initial 24 hours?

The only way to make sure you get in is by bidding in the initial 24 hours.

BTW, here's an announcement related to the crowdfund.

Announcement

We are currently considering an alternative private funding plan where we start funding with non-US/accredited investors.
If you qualify and are interested in bidding over $50K, please PM me or email us, prefund@cosmos.network.
Alternatively, if you have good-standing public reputation and have excellent op-sec and sys-admin skills, and are interested in running Cosmos hub validators, please PM me.
The ideal candidate meets both requirements, and is a legal entity.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Sam123 on September 06, 2016, 05:55:50 PM
Also, The crowdfund will be uncapped for the first 24 hours, but then capped at $9M equivalent of bitcoins after the first 24 hours. After 24 hours since the beginning of the crowdfund, when the total amount raised exceeds $9M given the price of bitcoin at 9am PDT the morning of, or after 42 days, whichever comes first, the crowdfund will immediately stop.

So the Cap amount is $9m + First 24 Hours funds collected? What is the bonus for investing in the initial 24 hours?

The only way to make sure you get in is by bidding in the initial 24 hours.

BTW, here's an announcement related to the crowdfund.

Announcement

We are currently considering an alternative private funding plan where we start funding with non-US/accredited investors.
If you qualify and are interested in bidding over $50K, please PM me or email us, prefund@cosmos.network.
Alternatively, if you have good-standing public reputation and have excellent op-sec and sys-admin skills, and are interested in running Cosmos hub validators, please PM me.
The ideal candidate meets both requirements, and is a legal entity.

Then there will be no ICO? or this is an addition to the ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: FruitBucket on September 06, 2016, 06:13:47 PM
Tendermint sounds quite similiar to Etherum's Casper https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/08/01/introducing-casper-friendly-ghost/ (https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/08/01/introducing-casper-friendly-ghost/)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Kray on September 06, 2016, 07:50:40 PM
It looks like interesting project with good prospect but i don't know if is it achievable


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 06, 2016, 10:51:34 PM
It looks like interesting project with good prospect but i don't know if is it achievable

It's certainly achievable.  I have a background in programming, so for us, the software isn't the hard part.  Getting the message out is the hardest part.  We need enthusiasts who believe in the formal approach to spread the message.

Slack is our biggest active community.  http://forum.tendermint.com:3000/

Cheers -J


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: rajeshgarnaik on September 07, 2016, 07:26:11 AM
reserve Indian translation (hindi)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: len01 on September 07, 2016, 07:50:34 AM
interesting project, watching


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: rajeshgarnaik on September 08, 2016, 05:39:34 AM
(hindi) Indian translation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1611046.new#new

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: MoneyJ on September 08, 2016, 10:03:55 AM
(hindi) Indian translation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1611046.new#new

thanks

Did the dev let you translate the introduction of whitepaper? Else your work will not be consider.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: rambling chetnik on September 08, 2016, 10:20:05 AM
Sounds like an great project. Ambitious but has a purpose unlike 99% altcoins. Unfortunately looks like small investors won't be able to contribute.

And what's with all the beggjng for bounties. PM the OP, stop crapping the thread.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: .m. on September 08, 2016, 11:16:35 AM
Is this info "CROWD SALE ON OCTOBER 17TH" still valid or the route with private investors is going be taken ?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 08, 2016, 06:00:35 PM
Did the dev give a green light on translations? I dont think he did yet...

No, and please be patient about translations.  It's going to take time to figure out how to vet everything.  Stop posting about translations here, just follow the instructions on this thread and forget about it.  We will email you back with a decision, but it will take time.

Announcement #2

If you are a non-US citizen and non-US resident, or an accredited US citizen who is interested in buying atoms or running a validator, PM me or email us at jae@cosmos.network.

* Who are you?
* Are you a US citizen or do you live in the US?
* How much do you want to buy?
* Are you interested in running a validator?
* Why do you think you'd run a successful validator?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Bannedseller on September 09, 2016, 06:56:05 PM
Is the CROWD SALE ON OCTOBER 17TH still valid ?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
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Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: MoneyJ on September 10, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
Dev is having so much work in this project. It is not your everyday alt coin


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: cyberhacker on September 11, 2016, 08:05:34 AM
is this kinda of Supernet made by JL777? ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: RichDaniel on September 11, 2016, 09:00:48 AM
is cosmos a decentralized network project like maidsafe?   


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 12, 2016, 04:35:37 AM
is this kinda of Supernet made by JL777? ;D

There are some similarities in spirit, and maybe some parts of the multigateway system are similar to the pegging system, but huge differences as well.  I don't see an analog to IBC in supernet.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on September 12, 2016, 03:14:32 PM
is cosmos a decentralized network project like maidsafe?   

It is a decentralized network project, and also a blockchain project, but it's nothing like maidsafe.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: cyberhacker on September 12, 2016, 03:26:16 PM
is cosmos a decentralized network project like maidsafe?   

cosmos is acting like it as network of blockchain.  maidsafe is pretending to be distributed internet.

little tricky words. but very easy to understand.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: coin2.0 on September 14, 2016, 01:06:33 AM
is this kinda of Supernet made by JL777? ;D
JL777 very famous ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: MoneyJ on September 14, 2016, 01:44:35 AM
Im guessing the project is as big or more than Ethereum and Nxt combined . All major crytocurrencies are going to app application platform. What else would they come up for it to be competitive? But I am excited with all those projects that are coming up.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: rendravolt on September 14, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
Cosmos? ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: RichDaniel on September 16, 2016, 03:04:54 AM
is cosmos a decentralized network project like maidsafe?   

cosmos is acting like it as network of blockchain.  maidsafe is pretending to be distributed internet.

little tricky words. but very easy to understand.

Thanks.   :D   Maybe they are both hype project. We need to do more research before we put money.   :D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: cyberhacker on September 16, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
is cosmos a decentralized network project like maidsafe?   

cosmos is acting like it as network of blockchain.  maidsafe is pretending to be distributed internet.

little tricky words. but very easy to understand.

Thanks.   :D   Maybe they are both hype project. We need to do more research before we put money.   :D

can't you see the truth? this project is actually organized by nautilus "team". lol


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on September 18, 2016, 12:23:23 PM
Also, The crowdfund will be uncapped for the first 24 hours, but then capped at $9M equivalent of bitcoins after the first 24 hours. After 24 hours since the beginning of the crowdfund, when the total amount raised exceeds $9M given the price of bitcoin at 9am PDT the morning of, or after 42 days, whichever comes first, the crowdfund will immediately stop.

So the Cap amount is $9m + First 24 Hours funds collected? What is the bonus for investing in the initial 24 hours?

The only way to make sure you get in is by bidding in the initial 24 hours.

BTW, here's an announcement related to the crowdfund.

Announcement

We are currently considering an alternative private funding plan where we start funding with non-US/accredited investors.
If you qualify and are interested in bidding over $50K, please PM me or email us, prefund@cosmos.network.
Alternatively, if you have good-standing public reputation and have excellent op-sec and sys-admin skills, and are interested in running Cosmos hub validators, please PM me.
The ideal candidate meets both requirements, and is a legal entity.

Hi I did email you regarding interested being a hub validator but no reply. Are you still in process?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: blackhawk101 on September 25, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
I want reserve English, French, German, Spanish, Mexican and Esperanto.  I cut-n-paste into Google Translate for high quality translations! ME BEG Bounty PELASE!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: meeekz on September 25, 2016, 07:49:24 PM
Could you please explain the attraction of private money vs ICO?  Are you looking for consult in exchange for equity?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: ecawyna on September 26, 2016, 04:02:28 AM
I want reserve English, French, German, Spanish, Mexican and Esperanto.  I cut-n-paste into Google Translate for high quality translations! ME BEG Bounty PELASE!!!

lol this made my day. All very first pages are all about bounty.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: sulec70 on September 26, 2016, 05:19:15 AM
Can you introduce anyone who is a team of your current project


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Bannedseller on September 26, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
Can you introduce anyone who is a team of your current project

Here some info
You can have check their web Site
http://tendermint.com/about/
many presentations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFVh1DIKds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYX7VIVz578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krAQzN6tbc
and much more ...


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: meeekz on September 27, 2016, 03:12:11 AM
Does Cosmos allow apps to deploy on BTC, ETH, WAVES, etc.? Doesn't this allow all of these guys to be winners?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: bitcoinuserz on September 27, 2016, 03:20:18 AM
I heard about you. So cosmos is basically a DEX or decentralized shapeshift? Seems like a novel idea, but who is doing the front end/UX for your group? Also, is it DPoS and are you still part of BlockchainOS?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: cryptospreader on September 27, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
When do you plan to launch the ICO? How much will you think you need to collect to drive the project? What is the ETA for the launch after the ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on September 27, 2016, 11:01:47 AM
Wow what a rip off of Blocknet. Even using the same tag line:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0)
  "the internet of blockchains".  

They even quote one of the Blocknet devs directly: "An ideal solution is one that allows multiple parallel blockchains to interoperate while retaining their security properties"   Shameless.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] Cosmos, internet of blockchains
Post by: moroseneng on September 27, 2016, 11:06:15 AM
Is there a bounty for posting in this thread?
any bounty for translation? i can translate into zulu ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: arseaboy on September 27, 2016, 11:09:53 AM
When do you plan to launch the ICO? How much will you think you need to collect to drive the project? What is the ETA for the launch after the ICO?
thats a good question hope the dev will give some light about this concern so we can start to invest.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on September 27, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
Wow what a rip off of Blocknet. Even using the same tag line:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0)
  "the internet of blockchains".  

They even quote one of the Blocknet devs directly: "An ideal solution is one that allows multiple parallel blockchains to interoperate while retaining their security properties"   Shameless.

They use the above quote in their cosmos whitepaper.

The blocknet dev actually said this.  They are using someone else's words because they cannot bother writing their own. Very dishonest!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: sfc on September 27, 2016, 11:40:05 AM
Guys, sorry, but its absolutely indecent of you to just copy another ones work and writings without referring to them. I will not invest in projects that are run by sneaky copycats. Furthermore, just to sum your whitepaper up for all the noobs here: Cosmos tech is essentially inferior to Blocknet. Everyone, please, do your research.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on September 27, 2016, 11:45:58 AM
Guys, sorry, but its absolutely indecent of you to just copy another ones work and writings without referring to them. I will not invest in projects that are run by sneaky copycats. Furthermore, just to sum your whitepaper up for all the noobs here: Cosmos tech is essentially inferior to Blocknet. Everyone, please, do your research.


I know right?  The blocknet devs have spent over 2 years innovating this tech and came through some terrible fud and then some selfish fools come along and try to take the credit for their own.  Intellectually dishonest.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: disconnectme on September 27, 2016, 12:13:52 PM
The concept is great bu they need to shed more light on the project, tedermint.com seems good and I read they won award at the just concluded Devcon in China.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: zika7142 on September 27, 2016, 12:16:39 PM
PLAGIARISM IS USUALLY AN INDICATOR OF A PROJECT BEING A SCAM.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on September 27, 2016, 12:56:29 PM
PLAGIARISM IS USUALLY AN INDICATOR OF A PROJECT BEING A SCAM.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Sam123 on September 27, 2016, 04:22:11 PM
PLAGIARISM IS USUALLY AN INDICATOR OF A PROJECT BEING A SCAM.

Not so quick. Devs are very legit. I don't beleive it's a SCAM

http://tendermint.com/about/
many presentations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFVh1DIKds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYX7VIVz578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krAQzN6tbc
and much more ...

PS: I'm not involve in any way on this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on September 27, 2016, 08:13:28 PM
Then they need to explain why they have stolen verbatim the work / words of the blocknet devs.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Sam123 on September 28, 2016, 10:17:36 PM
Then they need to explain why they have stolen verbatim the work / words of the blocknet devs.

I believe they will soon  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: moroseneng on September 28, 2016, 10:34:01 PM
Then they need to explain why they have stolen verbatim the work / words of the blocknet devs.

I believe they will soon  ;)
still waiting for more information, i just bookmark this thread


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Xaltotun on September 30, 2016, 05:30:36 AM
Is it true Donald Trump backs this coin?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: Conic on September 30, 2016, 07:37:00 AM
This project looks really nice. One question for you dev. How do you think about the future of Naut/Par?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: tulipbubble on September 30, 2016, 07:42:13 AM
PLAGIARISM IS USUALLY AN INDICATOR OF A PROJECT BEING A SCAM.

Not so quick. Devs are very legit. I don't beleive it's a SCAM

http://tendermint.com/about/
many presentations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFVh1DIKds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYX7VIVz578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krAQzN6tbc
and much more ...

PS: I'm not involve in any way on this project.

We need their info to know more about the team, anonymity of this project is not good. I don't believe them


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: electronicash on September 30, 2016, 09:07:46 AM
PLAGIARISM IS USUALLY AN INDICATOR OF A PROJECT BEING A SCAM.

Not so quick. Devs are very legit. I don't beleive it's a SCAM

http://tendermint.com/about/
many presentations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFVh1DIKds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYX7VIVz578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krAQzN6tbc
and much more ...

PS: I'm not involve in any way on this project.

We need their info to know more about the team, anonymity of this project is not good. I don't believe them

True. its much safer to see how real the devs are. there are more projects better than this so they might as well try to publish themselves to gain trust from investors, else they may never get much funds for the project. 

To whom did they allegedly copy this project?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on September 30, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
The blocknet: http://blocknet.co/


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: digaran2 on September 30, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
Interesting project, keeping an eye on this


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: MoneyJ on October 02, 2016, 10:37:15 PM
Any new development here ?  It is kinda silent from a potential crypto game-changer.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on October 03, 2016, 01:30:06 PM
I think their silence speaks volumes with regards to not answering why they ripped of other devs without credit.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 05, 2016, 12:01:40 AM
Then they need to explain why they have stolen verbatim the work / words of the blocknet devs.

We didn't steal or copy, though the tagline is coincidentally the same.  We arrived at that tagline because that's literally what we're creating -- and I like to call things for what they are.

In Cosmos, blockchains are light-clients of each other, where the light-client-SPV datastructure is included in another blockchain as a transaction, thereby allowing two blockchains to establish a virtual communication channel between each other.  It's a network of sidechains.

http://cosmos.network/whitepaper#inter-blockchain-communication-ibc

Looking into it, the best thing that I could find on what makes BlockNet an "internet of blockchains" is their XBridge, which I don't see much activity on.  It seems that BlockNet's "internet of blockchains" is about an intelligent wallet crawling blockchain nodes to coordinate cross-chain transactions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg16240226#msg16240226
https://github.com/atcsecure/xbridge-old/blob/master/p2p.scm

Is there anything more to the "internet"-ness of BlockNet than what is above?  Because from what I can see, the way Cosmos is an "internet of blockchains" is completely different than how BlockNet does it.  Cosmos is a network of sidechains.

We're happy to change the tagline if BlockNet asks us to, but it's unfair to say that we copied anyone else's work.  Our work is original.  Our specification is unique, and provides uniquely competitive properties.

Also, sorry, been busy with the prefunding plan.  We'll post another update soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 05, 2016, 12:08:21 AM
I heard about you. So cosmos is basically a DEX or decentralized shapeshift? Seems like a novel idea, but who is doing the front end/UX for your group? Also, is it DPoS and are you still part of BlockchainOS?

We're not "part" of BlockchainOS.  We advise them on blockchain architecture.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 05, 2016, 12:12:18 AM
Wow what a rip off of Blocknet. Even using the same tag line:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0)
  "the internet of blockchains".  

They even quote one of the Blocknet devs directly: "An ideal solution is one that allows multiple parallel blockchains to interoperate while retaining their security properties"   Shameless.

Those are my words.  You'll have to post the Blocknet dev's words so we can compare the meaning behind them.  But if we're speaking of ideals, and these ideals are true, then it's not surprising that two different people describe the same thing.

By "retaining their security properties", I mean PoS allows you to do this.  Not so with a network of PoW chains, where the miners can be bribed on a whim.  Our proposed solution to that problem is BFT PoS, a constitution, and a governance system to amend the constitution.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 05, 2016, 12:13:33 AM
Guys, sorry, but its absolutely indecent of you to just copy another ones work and writings without referring to them. I will not invest in projects that are run by sneaky copycats. Furthermore, just to sum your whitepaper up for all the noobs here: Cosmos tech is essentially inferior to Blocknet. Everyone, please, do your research.

You'll have to justify that.  Yes, everyone, please do your research :)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: synechist on October 05, 2016, 07:40:30 AM
Wow what a rip off of Blocknet. Even using the same tag line:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0)
  "the internet of blockchains".  

They even quote one of the Blocknet devs directly: "An ideal solution is one that allows multiple parallel blockchains to interoperate while retaining their security properties"   Shameless.

Those are my words.  You'll have to post the Blocknet dev's words so we can compare the meaning behind them.  But if we're speaking of ideals, and these ideals are true, then it's not surprising that two different people describe the same thing.

By "retaining their security properties", I mean PoS allows you to do this.  Not so with a network of PoW chains, where the miners can be bribed on a whim.  Our proposed solution to that problem is BFT PoS, a constitution, and a governance system to amend the constitution.

Hey hey

Thanks for the response. I tweeted at you guys several times about this, to no avail. Glad to see you're around.

To be clear (to all reading), I'm not accusing you of plagiarism or of copying our code. I'm just engaging you in conversation.

Having read your whitepaper, there's no question of your copying the Blocknet's technical approach. You're using DPoS and sidechains/sharding; we're using an inter-chain network overlay, a blockchain router, p2p messaging and atomic protocols.

However, when it comes to how you represent/market yourselves, there's a striking similarity in both concept and wording.
Consider, for example, the third paragraph of your whitepaper (http://cosmos.network/whitepaper): this echoes, almost verbatim, the following:
- a sentence in the second paragraph of our last blog post (http://blocknet.co/?p=265)
- a sentence in our last radio interview (https://soundcloud.com/coremediaradio/blocknet)
- many other instances, over the course of at least the past year, in which we've described our goal as preserving the security properties of blockchains in inter-chain scenarios.

The other, more obvious similarity (note I'm intentionally not using the accusatory word "copying"), is "internet of blockchains." That's effectively our slogan or descriptive title. It's been that for the past two years. If there are two "reserved terms" I'd like not to be used for other projects, they would be
- internet of blockchains
- blockchain router


I can't - and I'm not trying to - stop you from using "internet of blockchains" or phrases about "preserving security properties."
I'm not accusing you of plagiarism either.
But I request, as a matter of prior art, that you both (a) find equivalent but different ways of describing your project, and (b) that consider acknowledging - where relevant - that we precede you in pursuing the vision of inter-chain interoperability and were the first in carving out the concepts that you've arrived at.

Cheers

Arlyn


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: truxton on October 05, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
Wow what a rip off of Blocknet. Even using the same tag line:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0)
  "the internet of blockchains".  

They even quote one of the Blocknet devs directly: "An ideal solution is one that allows multiple parallel blockchains to interoperate while retaining their security properties"   Shameless.

Those are my words.  You'll have to post the Blocknet dev's words so we can compare the meaning behind them.  But if we're speaking of ideals, and these ideals are true, then it's not surprising that two different people describe the same thing.

By "retaining their security properties", I mean PoS allows you to do this.  Not so with a network of PoW chains, where the miners can be bribed on a whim.  Our proposed solution to that problem is BFT PoS, a constitution, and a governance system to amend the constitution.

Hey hey

Thanks for the response. I tweeted at you guys several times about this, to no avail. Glad to see you're around.

To be clear (to all reading), I'm not accusing you of plagiarism or of copying our code. I'm just engaging you in conversation.

Having read your whitepaper, there's no question of your copying the Blocknet's technical approach. You're using DPoS and sidechains/sharding; we're using an inter-chain network overlay, a blockchain router, p2p messaging and atomic protocols.

However, when it comes to how you represent/market yourselves, there's a striking similarity in both concept and wording.
Consider, for example, the third paragraph of your whitepaper (http://cosmos.network/whitepaper): this echoes, almost verbatim, the following:
- a sentence in the second paragraph of our last blog post (http://blocknet.co/?p=265)
- a sentence in our last radio interview (https://soundcloud.com/coremediaradio/blocknet)
- many other instances, over the course of at least the past year, in which we've described our goal as preserving the security properties of blockchains in inter-chain scenarios.

The other, more obvious similarity (note I'm intentionally not using the accusatory word "copying"), is "internet of blockchains." That's effectively our slogan or descriptive title. It's been that for the past two years. If there are two "reserved terms" I'd like not to be used for other projects, they would be
- internet of blockchains
- blockchain router


I can't - and I'm not trying to - stop you from using "internet of blockchains" or phrases about "preserving security properties."
I'm not accusing you of plagiarism either.
But I request, as a matter of prior art, that you both (a) find equivalent but different ways of describing your project, and (b) that consider acknowledging - where relevant - that we precede you in pursuing the vision of inter-chain interoperability and were the first in carving out the concepts that you've arrived at.

Cheers

Arlyn

I can see how the phrase "internet of blockchains" MIGHT, just MIGHT be a coincidence.  But the other examples of text from the white papers posted above are just stealing. There is zero chance that is coincidence. Its plagiarism.  Its what students do when they need to pad out an essay.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 05, 2016, 08:53:31 PM
Having read your whitepaper, there's no question of your copying the Blocknet's technical approach. You're using DPoS and sidechains/sharding; we're using an inter-chain network overlay, a blockchain router, p2p messaging and atomic protocols.

However, when it comes to how you represent/market yourselves, there's a striking similarity in both concept and wording.
Consider, for example, the third paragraph of your whitepaper (http://cosmos.network/whitepaper): this echoes, almost verbatim, the following:
- a sentence in the second paragraph of our last blog post (http://blocknet.co/?p=265)
- a sentence in our last radio interview (https://soundcloud.com/coremediaradio/blocknet)
- many other instances, over the course of at least the past year, in which we've described our goal as preserving the security properties of
blockchains in inter-chain scenarios.

Can you please paste the sentence from the second paragraph of your last blog post that you find strikingly similar?  I just want to make sure we're talking about the same parts.

I can't - and I'm not trying to - stop you from using "internet of blockchains" or phrases about "preserving security properties."
I'm not accusing you of plagiarism either.
But I request, as a matter of prior art, that you both (a) find equivalent but different ways of describing your project, and (b) that consider acknowledging - where relevant - that we precede you in pursuing the vision of inter-chain interoperability and were the first in carving out the concepts that you've arrived at.

I have no qualms changing the phrase.  "Network of blockchains"?  We'll take that then :)
I didn't pursue any vision of blockchains until early 2014.  Well, even before then, if you count the fact that since 2013 I had developed exchange software for a crypto-crypto exchange to compete with Cryptsy.  I abandoned that (https://github.com/jaekwon/ftnox-backend) and started working on Tendermint because it is what enables secure PoS.  And we have to get away from PoW in order for the security of many chains to be independent of each other.

http://tendermint.com/blog/security-of-cryptocurrency-protocols/

Looking at BlockNet's vision, it seems like we're fully aligned.  We're not even competing, we're both developing toward a shared system from different angles.  To call us plagiarizing is a stretch... we've created and proposed solutions to longstanding problems in the crypto space.

Here, I've changed our tagline.  We'll update them on our website too.  I acknowledge that jl777 has had great ideas, inevitable ideas.  I'd like for us to take part in the journey.  The internet of blockchains will not be centralized, or hierarchical.  Like the WorldWideWeb that preceded it, it is connected in every possible way.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: targetmlrd on October 06, 2016, 06:51:02 PM
Russian translation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638305.new#new


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on October 06, 2016, 09:31:35 PM
Network of blockchains tagline seems to be catchy and legit. Nice to see you around . No funfare here but a very huge potential for success. Still waiting for translation assignment. Already done the initial task.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 06, 2016, 10:05:57 PM
Network of blockchains tagline seems to be catchy and legit. Nice to see you around . No funfare here but a very huge potential for success. Still waiting for translation assignment. Already done the initial task.

Thanks.

Sorry about how long its taking about the translation.  We will follow through, but it will take some time to settle all the business.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: synechist on October 09, 2016, 10:22:31 AM
Having read your whitepaper, there's no question of your copying the Blocknet's technical approach. You're using DPoS and sidechains/sharding; we're using an inter-chain network overlay, a blockchain router, p2p messaging and atomic protocols.

However, when it comes to how you represent/market yourselves, there's a striking similarity in both concept and wording.
Consider, for example, the third paragraph of your whitepaper (http://cosmos.network/whitepaper): this echoes, almost verbatim, the following:
- a sentence in the second paragraph of our last blog post (http://blocknet.co/?p=265)
- a sentence in our last radio interview (https://soundcloud.com/coremediaradio/blocknet)
- many other instances, over the course of at least the past year, in which we've described our goal as preserving the security properties of
blockchains in inter-chain scenarios.

Can you please paste the sentence from the second paragraph of your last blog post that you find strikingly similar?  I just want to make sure we're talking about the same parts.

Sure: "The Blocknet is an inter-blockchain application platform, devoted to creating solutions to inter-chain interoperability without sacrificing the security properties of blockchains."

Quote
I can't - and I'm not trying to - stop you from using "internet of blockchains" or phrases about "preserving security properties."
I'm not accusing you of plagiarism either.
But I request, as a matter of prior art, that you both (a) find equivalent but different ways of describing your project, and (b) that consider acknowledging - where relevant - that we precede you in pursuing the vision of inter-chain interoperability and were the first in carving out the concepts that you've arrived at.

I have no qualms changing the phrase.  "Network of blockchains"?  We'll take that then :)

Nice one. Sounds good :-)

Quote
I didn't pursue any vision of blockchains until early 2014.  Well, even before then, if you count the fact that since 2013 I had developed exchange software for a crypto-crypto exchange to compete with Cryptsy.  I abandoned that (https://github.com/jaekwon/ftnox-backend) and started working on Tendermint because it is what enables secure PoS.  And we have to get away from PoW in order for the security of many chains to be independent of each other.

http://tendermint.com/blog/security-of-cryptocurrency-protocols/

Looking at BlockNet's vision, it seems like we're fully aligned.  We're not even competing, we're both developing toward a shared system from different angles.  To call us plagiarizing is a stretch... we've created and proposed solutions to longstanding problems in the crypto space.

Absolutely. I'm explicitly not accusing you of plagiarism.

Quote
Here, I've changed our tagline.  We'll update them on our website too.  I acknowledge that jl777 has had great ideas, inevitable ideas.  I'd like for us to take part in the journey.  The internet of blockchains will not be centralized, or hierarchical.  Like the WorldWideWeb that preceded it, it is connected in every possible way.

Onward to a decentralised internet! For the record though, jl777 has nothing to do with the Blocknet. He's behind that SuperNET thing, right?
Anyway, yes, it's great that there are a few projects working toward "web 3.0".

All the best with the project,

Arlyn


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on October 09, 2016, 11:14:57 PM
Sure: "The Blocknet is an inter-blockchain application platform, devoted to creating solutions to inter-chain interoperability without sacrificing the security properties of blockchains."

Nice, well, I think the obvious resolution to this is to cite.  I need to be clear on something though... what do they mean "sacrificing the security properties of blockchains"?  Why would chain interoperability sacrifice the security properties of blockchains?  Are they talking about, like, how metacoins sacrifice the security properties of the underlying blockchain?

Also, interesting that it's called an "application platform".  I don't think we're building the application platform, but rather the blockchain operating system itself, aka the "protocol".

Onward to a decentralised internet! For the record though, jl777 has nothing to do with the Blocknet. He's behind that SuperNET thing, right?
Anyway, yes, it's great that there are a few projects working toward "web 3.0".

Oops, yes, he's behind the SuperNET thing.  Who's behind BlockNet?  You?

All the best with the project,

Danke, to you as well.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: BTC Community on October 13, 2016, 03:17:12 PM
actually ,if post information of your team,maybe higher authoritative


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Pap0u on October 13, 2016, 03:20:36 PM
Can you explain this project in simpler terms? What are you guys trying to do and what value will come out of it? How could the world not go without this project?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: BTC Community on October 14, 2016, 07:45:04 AM
Can you explain this project in simpler terms? What are you guys trying to do and what value will come out of it? How could the world not go without this project?

thats why we need more information


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Norfolk on October 14, 2016, 09:38:08 AM
Can you explain this project in simpler terms? What are you guys trying to do and what value will come out of it? How could the world not go without this project?

thats why we need more information

some samples in real life usability 1 or 2



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: ShooterXD on October 14, 2016, 11:52:43 AM
Hi sir, i had some questiona about translation.

Pm sent.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: meeekz on October 14, 2016, 01:01:04 PM
When will we see a roadmap? What is your time to revenue?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Kaznachej123 on October 15, 2016, 06:44:30 PM
                                   COSMOS: We delayed our crowdfund until Q1 2017
  The going date is now Feb 15th, 2017. That will give us time to finish the production version of Tendermint and an alpha version of the hub.

   Cheers, Jae


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: bagikoin on October 24, 2016, 09:07:32 AM
any bounty for newsletter sub dev???


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dbstmddhks on November 28, 2016, 12:46:31 PM
It's great.


Is there any symbol or icon of cosmos yet ?


From wan.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dbstmddhks on November 29, 2016, 02:08:52 PM
It it great project.

I think the devs need promotion and marketing specialist.

to say the potential of this amazing project to generals.


Wow.


From wan.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: redhero on December 01, 2016, 12:40:33 PM
everyone need 50,000USD to attent pre-sale, it is too much


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on December 01, 2016, 11:44:47 PM
Hi everyone, a couple of announcements:

We will soon reach out to translators.  **PLEASE DO NOT REPLY ON THIS THREAD!  Just PM me.  Also include your price, if you want.**.  If you want to maintain translations subs, please PM me as well.  Thank you for the support and interest!

Also, check out the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ytzLX-2EE

And our official Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/thecosmos

We're getting more interest for Cosmos integration every week.  More announcements coming, please stay tuned!

- Jae



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on December 01, 2016, 11:46:01 PM
everyone need 50,000USD to attent pre-sale, it is too much

Sorry about that, it's just too much work to handle pre-fundraiser agreements manually.  We'll open up the fundraiser to everyone though.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] CØSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on December 01, 2016, 11:47:58 PM
actually ,if post information of your team,maybe higher authoritative

Jae (me) and Ethan from the Tendermint team, are two directors involved in the Cosmos Network Foundation.  There are others involved with Cosmos as well.

http://tendermint.com/about


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on December 01, 2016, 11:50:29 PM
New blog post, BFT: The Most Secure Proof-of-Stake
From https://cosmos.network/blog/bft-the-most-secure-proof-of-stake

Bitcoin brought the world’s attention to the blockchain. But alas, the Bitcoin version of blockchain isn’t sufficient for the world’s blockchain needs. That is because Bitcoin’s proof of work (PoW) consensus requires an enormous amounts of energy. In addition, transactions are painstakingly slow, taking an hour or longer to commit. And because PoW miners have little incentive to be loyal to one chain or other, upgrades are difficult to coordinate.

We need an approach to manage blockchains securely that does not impose a huge energy cost on our planet. That approach is Byzantine fault-tolerance (BFT)-based proof-of-stake (PoS). We call it BFT-PoS.

Before I delve into the merits of BFT-PoS, let me first address the concept of Byzantine faults without going into confusing detail about Lamport’s General and his armies.

In a distributed system, where data is replicated across hundreds or thousands of nodes, there needs to be some type of fault-tolerance or consensus algorithm, for the simple fact that computers break down or go offline from time to time. So if a portion of those nodes fail, the system as a whole still needs to reach a consensus.

Standard fault-tolerant consensus algorithms like Raft and Paxos assume that when a node fails, it simply stops working and doesn’t send back a reply. Google, Facebook, and some existing database products already use this family of consensus algorithms within their firewalls to ensure that services remain available despite faulty computers.

But these algorithms aren’t suitable for public blockchains, because there is no firewall in a public blockchain. Anyone with mining power (in PoW) or staking tokens (in PoS) can participate, or even try to sabotage the network. To reach consensus on a public blockchain, we need Byzantine fault-tolerance. In a Byzantine fault, the faulty node can behave in a completely arbitrary manner. Nodes can even collude to try and maximize the damage they cause.

So essentially, the purpose of a BFT consensus algorithm is to establish trust between otherwise unrelated parties over an untrusted network like the Internet.

BFT is nothing new. The concept was first introduced in an academic paper by Lamport, Shostak, and Pease in 1982. But Lamport et al only demonstrated the theoretical feasibility of the algorithm in a synchronous environment, where all the messages always arrive on time.

But in the real world, you can’t really trust the Internet to deliver anything on time. So in 1988, Dwork, Lynch, and Stockmeyer (DLS) proposed an algorithm that works in mostly asynchronous environments. Later in 1999, Miguel Castro and Barbara Liskov proposed a practical solution for continuous BFT consensus that was, and still is today, the state-of-the-art in BFT algorithms.

But for a long time, the mainstream press ignored these seminal works. Nobody understood the importance of BFT outside academia and major institutions like IBM and DARPA, until 2009 when Bitcoin came along. Bitcoin was the first open decentralized application to provide BFT consensus on a global currency ledger, but using a completely novel solution to the Byzantine general’s problem: PoW.

In PoW, miners compete, based on who has the most processing power, to validate transactions. And for their efforts they are rewarded with transaction fees and newly minted bitcoins. This is how Bitcoin creates new currency. Bitcoin miners around the globe compete in a lottery-like system for these newly issued bitcoins, and the efficient market makes it so that the cost of the energy used by the global mining network is on the order of the block reward (plus transaction fees). Today, that turns out to be around $1M worth of electricity per day. In addition, Bitcoin mining is being commoditized by large data centers in places of the world where electricity is more affordable, making it difficult for laymen to participate.

PoS, on the other hand, does away with the energy dependence of PoW entirely. In PoS, miners are replaced with “validators” who have a stake in the system. Validators don’t have to invest in expensive processing systems but they do have to purchase “staking tokens.” Any normal laptop will suffice to solve the algorithm.

Peercoin, BitShares, Nxt, and others already use some form of PoS, and Ethereum is planning a move to PoS in the near future. Yet, while PoS makes practical sense, many people have rallied against the use of PoS, claiming it is impossible to secure. But that is simply not true. Using BFT, you absolutely can secure PoS. It’s just that we haven’t seen any BFT-PoS public blockchains yet.

While the theory may be difficult to explain or understand, the ultimate results provided by proper BFT algorithms are simple to grasp. Unlike PoW blockchains, BFT-PoS blockchains do not fork (i.e. get double-spend attacked) at all unless ⅓ or more validators coordinate such an attack. And, when 1/3 or more validators do cause a double-spend attack, we can computationally determine which validators were responsible for the attack, destroy their staking tokens and eject them from the network. It’s as if the staking tokens are virtualized PoW miners that blow up when used to attack the system. No other blockchain consensus algorithm, including PoW, can provide the level of collateralization that is possible with BFT-PoS.

BFT-PoS performs extremely well. Today, in global public blockchain with a few hundred validators, you can get transaction finality on the order of 3 seconds, easily – no need to wait for additional block confirmations! The theory has proven to us that these are optimal fault-tolerance thresholds for “instant-finality” blockchains. While more validators does slow down consensus, if Nielsen’s law continues to hold, we’ll even be able to support an exponentially increasing number of validators every year with the same performance.

In addition, BFT-PoS will also increase the security of mobile wallets. Few of the mobile wallets in existence today take full advantage of the security offered by Bitcoin, for the simple fact that nobody is willing to wait an hour for a transaction to clear. Instead, most wallets just assume that the person sending the money isn’t trying to double spend it. And, though we don’t have time to dive into it here, efficient mobile wallet protocols, or “light client SPV” protocols are the key to future blockchain interoperability.

While PoW worked well for Bitcoin, it’s costly, slow, and environmentally unfriendly. The best alternative out there right now is BFT-PoS. It’s an enduring, energy efficient solution that works well in asynchronous environments. And best of all, because BFT was developed by the best and the brightest in the computer science industry, it’s provably secure. You can’t do any better than that.



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: kamiyama on December 02, 2016, 01:14:20 AM
I am looking forward to new information coming out.
Good luck on your development.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dbstmddhks on December 02, 2016, 09:23:01 AM
New blog post, BFT: The Most Secure Proof-of-Stake
From https://cosmos.network/blog/bft-the-most-secure-proof-of-stake

Bitcoin brought the world’s attention to the blockchain. But alas, the Bitcoin version of blockchain isn’t sufficient for the world’s blockchain needs. That is because Bitcoin’s proof of work (PoW) consensus requires an enormous amounts of energy. In addition, transactions are painstakingly slow, taking an hour or longer to commit. And because PoW miners have little incentive to be loyal to one chain or other, upgrades are difficult to coordinate.

We need an approach to manage blockchains securely that does not impose a huge energy cost on our planet. That approach is Byzantine fault-tolerance (BFT)-based proof-of-stake (PoS). We call it BFT-PoS.

Before I delve into the merits of BFT-PoS, let me first address the concept of Byzantine faults without going into confusing detail about Lamport’s General and his armies.

In a distributed system, where data is replicated across hundreds or thousands of nodes, there needs to be some type of fault-tolerance or consensus algorithm, for the simple fact that computers break down or go offline from time to time. So if a portion of those nodes fail, the system as a whole still needs to reach a consensus.

Standard fault-tolerant consensus algorithms like Raft and Paxos assume that when a node fails, it simply stops working and doesn’t send back a reply. Google, Facebook, and some existing database products already use this family of consensus algorithms within their firewalls to ensure that services remain available despite faulty computers.

But these algorithms aren’t suitable for public blockchains, because there is no firewall in a public blockchain. Anyone with mining power (in PoW) or staking tokens (in PoS) can participate, or even try to sabotage the network. To reach consensus on a public blockchain, we need Byzantine fault-tolerance. In a Byzantine fault, the faulty node can behave in a completely arbitrary manner. Nodes can even collude to try and maximize the damage they cause.

So essentially, the purpose of a BFT consensus algorithm is to establish trust between otherwise unrelated parties over an untrusted network like the Internet.

BFT is nothing new. The concept was first introduced in an academic paper by Lamport, Shostak, and Pease in 1982. But Lamport et al only demonstrated the theoretical feasibility of the algorithm in a synchronous environment, where all the messages always arrive on time.

But in the real world, you can’t really trust the Internet to deliver anything on time. So in 1988, Dwork, Lynch, and Stockmeyer (DLS) proposed an algorithm that works in mostly asynchronous environments. Later in 1999, Miguel Castro and Barbara Liskov proposed a practical solution for continuous BFT consensus that was, and still is today, the state-of-the-art in BFT algorithms.

But for a long time, the mainstream press ignored these seminal works. Nobody understood the importance of BFT outside academia and major institutions like IBM and DARPA, until 2009 when Bitcoin came along. Bitcoin was the first open decentralized application to provide BFT consensus on a global currency ledger, but using a completely novel solution to the Byzantine general’s problem: PoW.

In PoW, miners compete, based on who has the most processing power, to validate transactions. And for their efforts they are rewarded with transaction fees and newly minted bitcoins. This is how Bitcoin creates new currency. Bitcoin miners around the globe compete in a lottery-like system for these newly issued bitcoins, and the efficient market makes it so that the cost of the energy used by the global mining network is on the order of the block reward (plus transaction fees). Today, that turns out to be around $1M worth of electricity per day. In addition, Bitcoin mining is being commoditized by large data centers in places of the world where electricity is more affordable, making it difficult for laymen to participate.

PoS, on the other hand, does away with the energy dependence of PoW entirely. In PoS, miners are replaced with “validators” who have a stake in the system. Validators don’t have to invest in expensive processing systems but they do have to purchase “staking tokens.” Any normal laptop will suffice to solve the algorithm.

Peercoin, BitShares, Nxt, and others already use some form of PoS, and Ethereum is planning a move to PoS in the near future. Yet, while PoS makes practical sense, many people have rallied against the use of PoS, claiming it is impossible to secure. But that is simply not true. Using BFT, you absolutely can secure PoS. It’s just that we haven’t seen any BFT-PoS public blockchains yet.

While the theory may be difficult to explain or understand, the ultimate results provided by proper BFT algorithms are simple to grasp. Unlike PoW blockchains, BFT-PoS blockchains do not fork (i.e. get double-spend attacked) at all unless ⅓ or more validators coordinate such an attack. And, when 1/3 or more validators do cause a double-spend attack, we can computationally determine which validators were responsible for the attack, destroy their staking tokens and eject them from the network. It’s as if the staking tokens are virtualized PoW miners that blow up when used to attack the system. No other blockchain consensus algorithm, including PoW, can provide the level of collateralization that is possible with BFT-PoS.

BFT-PoS performs extremely well. Today, in global public blockchain with a few hundred validators, you can get transaction finality on the order of 3 seconds, easily – no need to wait for additional block confirmations! The theory has proven to us that these are optimal fault-tolerance thresholds for “instant-finality” blockchains. While more validators does slow down consensus, if Nielsen’s law continues to hold, we’ll even be able to support an exponentially increasing number of validators every year with the same performance.

In addition, BFT-PoS will also increase the security of mobile wallets. Few of the mobile wallets in existence today take full advantage of the security offered by Bitcoin, for the simple fact that nobody is willing to wait an hour for a transaction to clear. Instead, most wallets just assume that the person sending the money isn’t trying to double spend it. And, though we don’t have time to dive into it here, efficient mobile wallet protocols, or “light client SPV” protocols are the key to future blockchain interoperability.

While PoW worked well for Bitcoin, it’s costly, slow, and environmentally unfriendly. The best alternative out there right now is BFT-PoS. It’s an enduring, energy efficient solution that works well in asynchronous environments. And best of all, because BFT was developed by the best and the brightest in the computer science industry, it’s provably secure. You can’t do any better than that.



The BFT-POS is impressive and dynamic algorithm.

It is worth to look in

from wan.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dbstmddhks on December 08, 2016, 06:29:42 AM
The slack of cosmos and tendermint is very busy.

But this thread is some cold now.

If you want to know more about his prjoect, Go to slack.


From wan.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dbstmddhks on December 14, 2016, 10:38:39 AM
Can I get the strong points of BFT-Pos ?

and what is different points between BFT and PBFT ??


from wan.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Sinone on December 18, 2016, 06:44:07 PM
 :)

Hello Cosmos I would like to contribute in any way, if you wish some translation in Greek Language - I would like to support@!

Next ICO ----?

X.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: YNWA2806 on December 25, 2016, 07:37:13 PM
Didnt understand the status here...is this going to an Ico or is it self funded?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: logictense on December 25, 2016, 07:58:20 PM
Tell me brats if is it poised to reach the cosmic heights. Id love to see unimaginable galaxies, giant nebulae hidden somewhere along the central axis of universe where no human being has ever had a pleasure to travel to coz of distance barriers.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Mgrover on December 26, 2016, 04:34:11 AM
waiting for ICO.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: MorAltsPlease on January 01, 2017, 09:34:34 PM
waiting for ICO.

Is it going there???


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: MorAltsPlease on January 01, 2017, 09:35:41 PM
Surely there is a different main thread, can someone post a link?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: pineapples on January 02, 2017, 08:31:20 AM
any new sidechain project really needs to be able to integrate existing chains,
there are a few projects that have tried to create their own closed eco system of chains, but without bringing other players in, seems like a waste of effort :(

abc coin springs to mind
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780422.0


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dbstmddhks on January 05, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
There is a new post about cosmos network written by devs

https://cosmos.network/blog/purpose-of-cosmos


From wan.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: MorAltsPlease on January 09, 2017, 06:46:42 PM
So is this going to be an ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: meeekz on January 16, 2017, 12:24:08 PM
Big project. Do you have a fairly detailed roadmap?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: meeekz on January 16, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
What is your primary Use Case?
Who benefits most from the proposed development of Cosmos?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: sulfurtank on January 16, 2017, 01:11:53 PM
The slack of cosmos and tendermint is very busy.

But this thread is some cold now.

If you want to know more about his prjoect, Go to slack.


From wan.

This thread is just one of the many garbage threads. I suppose there's nothing new going on in slack channel because it's empty. It's pointless to post this in every altcoin thread. Just join in to their slack and u will see that no one is sitting there.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: maknyos on January 17, 2017, 12:58:54 PM
follow thread about bounty...


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Hhampuz on January 18, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
I have not gone through all the pages here, but I heard about Cosmos the other day at a bitcoin conference in Miami. DAG - Digital Assets Group were talking about it, and they are going to back you?

That got me excited, and I think you'll have a promising future. Please let me know if this is the right one or not, would appreciate that.

Will not go through the earlier pages of this thread and will edit this post if I find anything interesting that contradicts my post.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: bitcoinsforall on January 20, 2017, 02:01:41 PM
any bounty for this project?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on January 20, 2017, 05:52:29 PM
We're releasing a preliminary roadmap document soon.  Stay tuned.

Wanted: Someone to manage this community and relay w/ our Slack @ forum.tendermint.com:3000 . You will be responsible for being active on our Slack channel and asking questions, to bridge the knowledge gap.

Pay: $30/hr paid in BTC.  You will be required to document your hours worked and send us an invoice.  Mutual at-will consultation, may be terminated at any time.

To apply, please send me an email @ jae@tendermint.com w/ something interesting about Cosmos, internet of blockchains.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on January 25, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
Fellow bitcointalk users. Cosmos is going to have its launching soon. I am pretty sure that you are wondering what Cosmos is and how is the dynamics of its operations will affect the decentralized ecosystem. If you have further questions or clarifications, reply to this thread and we will do our best to give you knowledge about cosmos hub, atom, sharding and the other terms that are synonymous to the overall operation of cosmos.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on January 25, 2017, 08:43:30 PM
Didnt understand the status here...is this going to an Ico or is it self funded?

No its not self funded. It is going to launch soon and better keep track on this thread. You might be surprise how fast the development will be.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on January 25, 2017, 08:52:58 PM
Big project. Do you have a fairly detailed roadmap?


Roadmap is still in the works but the technicality of Cosmos and how it would be used are all available on its whitepaper. Go to this link https://cosmos.network/whitepaper to further understand.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on January 27, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
any bounty for this project?

Just stay tune on this thread . Please visit the official website and learn how cosmos work.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: JanDzban on February 05, 2017, 05:15:05 AM
What is better to invest, COSMOS or PRO?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on February 07, 2017, 03:58:15 AM
What is better to invest, COSMOS or PRO?

Both have potentials. They have different approach with regards to implementation of software application using blockchain technology. Cosmos focuses on the improvement of blockchain infrastructure by introducing a series of blockchains govern by a hub. This minimizes the burden of  third party exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: kamiyama on February 07, 2017, 04:03:15 AM
updated  FAQ

https://cosmos.network/faq


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jwiz168 on February 07, 2017, 04:19:42 AM

Announcements

Cosmos Fundraiser has been delayed and was pushed further to mid / last week of March . Click on this link (https://cosmos.network/blog/fundraiser-delay-announcement) to read the blog about it . Stay tune for further announcement.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: iambitcoin5 on February 10, 2017, 11:49:48 PM
Waiting for ICO. How realistic is the roadmap getting finished on time?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: drays on February 13, 2017, 12:55:08 AM
Who is behind this project?

Sorry if this sound blatantly straight... I mean who are the promoters (and/or early investors) - are there people with enough money and influence?

Technically the idea seems to be good, and I actually think developers are doing great work, but the problem with things of this kind is the adoption. Even if COSMOS is great and potentially very useful, it can be largely ignored, if there is nobody pushing towards using it. It could be community (if its really big and enthusiastic enough) or business (money). I see no big and excited community on this yet, hence is my question...
There are so many useful things which remain in 'academic' state forever...

So... who is going to push this into adoption? Any specific names?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: ArabMist on February 15, 2017, 06:15:30 AM
Who is behind this project?

Sorry if this sound blatantly straight... I mean who are the promoters (and/or early investors) - are there people with enough money and influence?

Technically the idea seems to be good, and I actually think developers are doing great work, but the problem with things of this kind is the adoption. Even if COSMOS is great and potentially very useful, it can be largely ignored, if there is nobody pushing towards using it. It could be community (if its really big and enthusiastic enough) or business (money). I see no big and excited community on this yet, hence is my question...
There are so many useful things which remain in 'academic' state forever...

So... who is going to push this into adoption? Any specific names?

I ditto this. Good technology, sound and innovative idea, nice marketing and active slack to some degree but this is the place that should be utilized to drive adoption. An ICO needs the community as a whole for a unified success so for me,  I'm fence sittingnas a result.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: aguila on February 17, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
Who is behind this project?

Sorry if this sound blatantly straight... I mean who are the promoters (and/or early investors) - are there people with enough money and influence?

Technically the idea seems to be good, and I actually think developers are doing great work, but the problem with things of this kind is the adoption. Even if COSMOS is great and potentially very useful, it can be largely ignored, if there is nobody pushing towards using it. It could be community (if its really big and enthusiastic enough) or business (money). I see no big and excited community on this yet, hence is my question...
There are so many useful things which remain in 'academic' state forever...

So... who is going to push this into adoption? Any specific names?

I ditto this. Good technology, sound and innovative idea, nice marketing and active slack to some degree but this is the place that should be utilized to drive adoption. An ICO needs the community as a whole for a unified success so for me,  I'm fence sittingnas a result.


I had the same question so I start digging and found the answer in Reddit -> https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCosmos/comments/5tparu/please_introduce_yourself_before_you_raise_money/ddo5729/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCosmos/comments/5tparu/please_introduce_yourself_before_you_raise_money/ddo5729/)

"Tendermint:
Jae Kwon and Ethan Buchman are authors of the Cosmos whitepaper.

They are also founders of All in Bits, Inc, AKA Tendermint. http://tendermint.com/about

We will have more information up on http://cosmos.network prior to the fundraiser."


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: xtyling on February 17, 2017, 07:21:37 PM
Any signature campaign ?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: leero9 on February 18, 2017, 11:41:56 AM
When is ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: bitcoinsforall on February 20, 2017, 11:50:01 AM
I see on icocountdown ,the ico start date is 15th march?

So why this thread is not updated?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: vagoptc on February 26, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
The cosmos ICO has already started. I like the concept and the idea, but i don´t really like the page; it´s very unprofessional and doesn´t inspire confidence (I am not saying than this proyect is fake or something like that, but i want to know what do you think about it). Anyway. Are you going to invest in cosmos? why? Thanks  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: xtyling on February 26, 2017, 06:03:35 PM
Looks promising project. Any idea if there is a signature bounty ?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Bannedseller on March 01, 2017, 12:47:38 AM
Looks promising project. Any idea if there is a signature bounty ?
Very promising 2017 project indeed.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: sotisoti on March 06, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
The cosmos ICO has already started. I like the concept and the idea, but i don´t really like the page; it´s very unprofessional and doesn´t inspire confidence (I am not saying than this proyect is fake or something like that, but i want to know what do you think about it). Anyway. Are you going to invest in cosmos? why? Thanks  ;)
Already started? Link?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Anarchy101 on March 06, 2017, 04:28:31 AM
The cosmos ICO has already started. I like the concept and the idea, but i don´t really like the page; it´s very unprofessional and doesn´t inspire confidence (I am not saying than this proyect is fake or something like that, but i want to know what do you think about it). Anyway. Are you going to invest in cosmos? why? Thanks  ;)
Already started? Link?

ICO is not yet started so don't worry mate
they pushed the ICO date to last week of March or so you can read it here https://cosmos.network/blog/fundraiser-delay-announcement


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Alonzo Ewing on March 07, 2017, 12:18:42 PM
The cosmos ICO has already started. I like the concept and the idea, but i don´t really like the page; it´s very unprofessional and doesn´t inspire confidence (I am not saying than this proyect is fake or something like that, but i want to know what do you think about it). Anyway. Are you going to invest in cosmos? why? Thanks  ;)
Already started? Link?

ICO is not yet started so don't worry mate
they pushed the ICO date to last week of March or so you can read it here https://cosmos.network/blog/fundraiser-delay-announcement

where is the thread for bounty for this project and why the team members are not active here?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Betomania on March 08, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
The cosmos ICO has already started. I like the concept and the idea, but i don´t really like the page; it´s very unprofessional and doesn´t inspire confidence (I am not saying than this proyect is fake or something like that, but i want to know what do you think about it). Anyway. Are you going to invest in cosmos? why? Thanks  ;)
Already started? Link?

ICO is not yet started so don't worry mate
they pushed the ICO date to last week of March or so you can read it here https://cosmos.network/blog/fundraiser-delay-announcement

where is the thread for bounty for this project and why the team members are not active here?

This is a ghost topic....


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: JanDzban on March 08, 2017, 09:45:07 PM
The cosmos ICO has already started. I like the concept and the idea, but i don´t really like the page; it´s very unprofessional and doesn´t inspire confidence (I am not saying than this proyect is fake or something like that, but i want to know what do you think about it). Anyway. Are you going to invest in cosmos? why? Thanks  ;)
Already started? Link?

ICO is not yet started so don't worry mate
they pushed the ICO date to last week of March or so you can read it here https://cosmos.network/blog/fundraiser-delay-announcement

where is the thread for bounty for this project and why the team members are not active here?

This is a ghost topic....

or sociological experiment


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Pipesnake on March 09, 2017, 10:10:51 AM
Where can i get more details of this project,do they have slack?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: amintek15 on March 11, 2017, 07:02:46 AM
hello, any news about the fundraising date ??
Is there any bounty campaign?
how to be a pré-fundraiser and get 12,5% discount ? :)
Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: JariKriting on March 11, 2017, 07:29:48 AM
project still run or die dev
any update about project and roadmap, total suply coin, about ico selling and bounty
and when added cosmos coin to exchanger


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: amintek15 on March 11, 2017, 08:18:30 AM
project still run or die dev
any update about project and roadmap, total suply coin, about ico selling and bounty
and when added cosmos coin to exchanger


coins will be released progressively after genesis, and genesis won't be here before Q3. I think you shouldn't wait any exchange before Q4 2017


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: kamiyama on March 11, 2017, 12:04:40 PM
Where can i get more details of this project,do they have slack?

Contact

Site - http://cosmos.network
Twitter - http://twitter.com/cosmos_hq
Slack - http://forum.tendermint.com:3000/
Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ytzLX-2EE


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on March 12, 2017, 07:09:24 AM
Update:

We've been busy crossing the t's and dotting the i's with legal.  We have the answers now, and agreements etc are forthcoming.

Early contributors, we will be contacting you shortly.

Meanwhile, there's a bug bounty contest for the fundraiser flow:

https://cosmos.network/blog/fundraiser-flow-bounty

New announcements forthcoming early next week.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on March 15, 2017, 02:35:12 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: amintek15 on March 15, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

finally ! great news I save the date !


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: minorman on March 16, 2017, 09:03:45 AM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

Are you planning to do any campaigns here?,many people do not get much to know about Cosmos.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: miramare on March 16, 2017, 09:22:15 AM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

The coin name is cool!
Besides coding, dev, you also need promote it.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: ICOindex.com on March 16, 2017, 01:41:32 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

When does the crowdsale/ICO end ?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: wrxbuzz on March 16, 2017, 01:47:01 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

Are you planning to do any campaigns here?,many people do not get much to know about Cosmos.

I also focus on the bounty, without bounty, the project won't be succeed in the future, we need to focus on the project, and the hunt for the bounty, to promote their words.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: minorman on March 16, 2017, 01:51:19 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

Are you planning to do any campaigns here?,many people do not get much to know about Cosmos.

I also focus on the bounty, without bounty, the project won't be succeed in the future, we need to focus on the project, and the hunt for the bounty, to promote their words.

Projects like this need good promotion and signature campaign will be the best one on BCTalk


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: schnötzel on March 17, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
bounty for german translation? pm me!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: sarfield on March 17, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
bounty for german translation? pm me!

Are you a translator sir???
I think many translations project if you interest


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: daylox on March 17, 2017, 12:00:02 PM
Another great ICO will start very soon, OP has been published long time ago, and they have developed for serious time, so it is time to make the altcoin great again!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: dragonchopper9 on March 17, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!

We are waiting for more information from you. I was waiting for this project at the beginning of the year, but it's been three months already, but still the excitement did not go away


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: mattaero on March 17, 2017, 03:12:15 PM
I think this is a great project and helps mitigate some serious issues with current block chain technology.  I also note that several other upcoming, and existing, projects have mentioned potentially working with you (Aeternity being one, which I also think is a great project).  However, it seems that you are relatively dependent on 3rd parties, one of which being Rootstock.  How would your ability to continue to develop the software be impacted if Rootstock takes significantly longer than expected to be completed?

Thank you.



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: jaekwon on March 17, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
I think this is a great project and helps mitigate some serious issues with current block chain technology.  I also note that several other upcoming, and existing, projects have mentioned potentially working with you (Aeternity being one, which I also think is a great project).  However, it seems that you are relatively dependent on 3rd parties, one of which being Rootstock.  How would your ability to continue to develop the software be impacted if Rootstock takes significantly longer than expected to be completed?

Thank you.

Hi Mattaero,

We are prepared to develop our own BTC peg solution.  There should be some options for pegging to BTC.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: mattaero on March 17, 2017, 03:48:08 PM
I think this is a great project and helps mitigate some serious issues with current block chain technology.  I also note that several other upcoming, and existing, projects have mentioned potentially working with you (Aeternity being one, which I also think is a great project).  However, it seems that you are relatively dependent on 3rd parties, one of which being Rootstock.  How would your ability to continue to develop the software be impacted if Rootstock takes significantly longer than expected to be completed?

Thank you.

Hi Mattaero,

We are prepared to develop our own BTC peg solution.  There should be some options for pegging to BTC.


That is very helpful, thank you.



Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: blocks.explorer on March 18, 2017, 12:52:05 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!


Do you have more details about the fundraiser? How much do you plan to raise - minimum & maximum?
What is the pricing - any bonuses for early birds?
What coinds can be used for investing?
Who is escrow?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: testerx on March 18, 2017, 12:56:06 PM
I think these guys have been working away quietly with private funding on tendermint and now cosmos but they really need to improve their marketing.  Everything so far seems technically impressive but almost nobody knows about tendermint or cosmos or what they are.  Hopefully the ico will allow them to actually market this aggressively because otherwise better marketed competitors may win.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: hgfcjfuik on March 18, 2017, 04:40:24 PM
Who is escrow?
 we need to know


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, internet of blockchains
Post by: amintek15 on March 18, 2017, 09:00:19 PM
Announcement:

https://cosmos.network/blog/cosmos-fundraiser-date

Cosmos fundraiser date set to March 31st, 2017!


Do you have more details about the fundraiser? How much do you plan to raise - minimum & maximum?
What is the pricing - any bonuses for early birds?
What coinds can be used for investing?
Who is escrow?

well if you read this text you will see that they will give all informations before ICO, just wait


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: minorman on March 20, 2017, 08:36:39 AM
Just 10+ days for the ICO and not much information nor OP is available to give an update


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: dragonchopper9 on March 20, 2017, 10:08:20 AM
Just 10+ days for the ICO and not much information nor OP is available to give an update

A bit of peace, the information will soon be. The Cosmos is more interesting than Qtum and there are no problems with reputation.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: rubiprojects on March 20, 2017, 10:19:49 AM
Just 10+ days for the ICO and not much information nor OP is available to give an update

A bit of peace, the information will soon be. The Cosmos is more interesting than Qtum and there are no problems with reputation.

Exactly, it looks like the team is still not well prepared the pre-ico campaign, not everyone on the forum know this project, it may cause the project abortion and failure. No escrow, no bounty. End of story.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Saturday97 on March 20, 2017, 01:27:31 PM
Just 10+ days for the ICO and not much information nor OP is available to give an update

A bit of peace, the information will soon be. The Cosmos is more interesting than Qtum and there are no problems with reputation.

Exactly, it looks like the team is still not well prepared the pre-ico campaign, not everyone on the forum know this project, it may cause the project abortion and failure. No escrow, no bounty. End of story.

What happened? I thought this goes to ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Pipesnake on March 20, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
Hope the team posts an update here on the readiness for the start of ICO


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: mattaero on March 20, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
While I tend to agree that this could use more updates from the developers, as well as being promoted better, the project itself is still a good one.  It helps solve some significant issues in the cryptocurrency markets.  Cosmos has been mentioned by other projects as well, which suggests that there may be a strong long term benefit to Cosmos.  (Wings and Aeternity both mentioned Cosmos, and potentially working with the project). 

While I do wish there was more engagement from the team, my opinion regarding its viability and potential have not changed. 


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Hhampuz on March 20, 2017, 04:24:08 PM
I prefer it not being marketed too heavily right now, at least not here OK the forum. They should be focusing on the right things right now and judging by everything so far they have, and I don't mind getting a good rate for my investment either D


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: snowyNNN on March 20, 2017, 04:43:47 PM
What might be the minimum amount of Bitcoin/Ethereum to take part in the ICO?

I hope there´s a chance to get in for a microlevel investor/gambler.


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: schnötzel on March 20, 2017, 08:49:48 PM
bounty for german translation? pm me!

Are you a translator sir???
I think many translations project if you interest

pm me!


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Saturday97 on March 20, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
What might be the minimum amount of Bitcoin/Ethereum to take part in the ICO?

I hope there´s a chance to get in for a microlevel investor/gambler.

Is there a serious talk about ICO??


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Saturday97 on March 20, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
reserving Slovak translation if there is any bounty...


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: amintek15 on March 21, 2017, 06:52:16 AM
What might be the minimum amount of Bitcoin/Ethereum to take part in the ICO?

I hope there´s a chance to get in for a microlevel investor/gambler.

If you are a micro investor you should search for a fast money.. I don't know if you read the whitepaper but Atoms will be released in late Q3-Q4 and it won't be released all at once but progressively for about 2 years ! So you need to be ready to hold at least a part of your tokens for 2 years


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: Betomania on March 21, 2017, 02:16:06 PM
Liked the idea at first, to bad these guys never thought it through...


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: frankkkkkkk on March 21, 2017, 02:33:11 PM
Is Cosmos a project of decentral exchange?Need more imformation about the development team


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: amintek15 on March 22, 2017, 07:16:33 AM
There is life on their Slack, you should go there if you have questions.
I don't understand why they are not responding here


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: MorAltsPlease on March 22, 2017, 07:14:43 PM
reserving Slovak translation if there is any bounty...

You guys are killing me.... ;D
no one of the team was here in months and you are reserving translation bounties


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: MoveCrypto on March 22, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
look interesting, I will read more


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: legera on March 23, 2017, 01:34:36 AM
More info on ICO available? Any early buyer bounties?


Title: Re: [ANN][COS] COSMOS, network of blockchains
Post by: iop on March 23, 2017, 04:10:09 AM
It is D-8. No any more information...????