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Title: World federalism.
Post by: ScoMo on March 29, 2013, 03:50:28 PM
If we inspired people to take pride in the species they were on a huge scale as opposed to nationality, could world federalism ever arise?


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: Mike Christ on March 29, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
Define world federalism


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: ScoMo on March 29, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
Define world federalism
A federation spanning the entire world; where independent nation states cease to exist, every current country becomes a state in the federation with a degree of power, but the central government exercises the most power.


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: Mike Christ on March 29, 2013, 04:37:21 PM
Thats entirely possible, yes. But extremely scary. I'd rather work toward unifying the world under our own individual terms than one global law of fact. Whoever sits at the top of that pyramid you've described will probably not be so benevolent--after all, who will stop him? Mars?


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: myrkul on March 29, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
Define world federalism
A federation spanning the entire world; where independent nation states cease to exist, every current country becomes a state in the federation with a degree of power, but the central government exercises the most power.

Too late.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMF


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: Mike Christ on March 29, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
And of course it's based in America.  :-\


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: benjamindees on March 29, 2013, 05:26:55 PM
If you read the "Federalist Papers" and the "Anti-Federalist Papers", you can see that, under federalism, the central government is supposed to have the least power, not the most.  And the major objection to federalism among the US founders was the possibility of it growing and morphing into exactly what you describe.


Title: Re: World federalism.
Post by: sounds on March 29, 2013, 06:09:05 PM
You mean like the US federal government of today?

The brilliance of the US founders was that they foresaw exactly what is happening and built as many safeguards to hobble, cripple, stifle, and frustrate the federal government in its attempts to grab unlimited power.

The checks and balances are still having some effect even today. That's impressive.

Worldwide the most beneficial setup for individual liberty is probably to have strong nations that avoid "entangling alliances" such as the IMF, UN, NATO, EU, NAFTA, Amero, ITAR, and so forth.

Strong nations that are not entangled into one another will make it difficult for any one organization to seize control of the entire world.

It would also be beneficial for individual liberty if the individual can travel relatively freely around the globe, so that when a nation is suffering from bad leadership, people can move. To be clear, nations should have immigration laws and restrictions as they see fit (and they should enforce the laws they enact – unlike the US). However, nations should not restrict emigration.