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Defcon23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98372) is an unstable child who cannot properly control the way they act on public forums. They collect personal information on users without their permission and later attempt intimidation/scare tactics against users using said information. I would sincerely recommend not dealing with this user, especially if any sort of personal information is involved.

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Yesterday evening (01/10/16) Defcon23 began copy-and-pasting logs about drug related talks even though nobody asked him to do so. When asked to stop he did not and a heated argument broke loose which ended up with Defcon23 insulting members that made comments towards him. He also insinuated something that was way to much, which caused him to be banned instantly.*
I was one of the members who referred to him in a message prior to his banning. Prior to him being removed from the channel, I received this direct threat in a personal message from him:
https://i.imgur.com/UxozhKam.png?1
He had previously logged my IP due to my mistake of incorrectly logging into the IRC channel once. He has repeatedly talked about the negative things that he could do with my IP when I spoke against him, however this is the first direct threat he has sent me. While this is a small case, it is absolutely unacceptable behavior for someone who sells goods to others (such as reselling 'unique' silver bars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1111640.msg11928100#msg11928100) bought for $3.30 each) and has significantly more personal, DOXable information on his customers.
In addition to this, Defcon then proceeded to waste other peoples time with more childish behavior as he continued to rejoin the channels under different usernames (most of which were further insults to the members of the channel - E.G minifdick, smallminifriddick). He did this for a number of minutes until the channel was closed to the public making him unable to join.

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This is the same childish behavior that Defcon has repeatedly shown over and over again. This is not adequate behavior for someone who handles significant amounts of other people's funds, in addition to a significant number of people's personal information. This is not behavior that people should deal with, and is not behavior that should be let off the hook because he is sorry and "won't do it again".

If you have any sort of relationship with Defcon, whether it be personal of business related, I highly suggest that you cut it as soon as possible. He has shown several times that he cannot be trusted to keep composure and act like an adult, and should not be trusted with any information he could later use against you should you disagree with what he thinks.

*This line was edited as per a request to more accurately represent the happenings.

Duly noted,  will keep this in mind though I've not had any dealings with him yet.  That sort of behavior is unfortunately very common around these parts

1rst : i have never got any kind of business with  this user: NEVER .

2: this problem happened cause i was banned from IRC  in following to a starnge attitude about Lauda, who's coming into the Chat , and asking about  drugs into the channel  ( RITALIN).

i have asked to Lauda to confirm if i have well understood... and if he/her searching asking for ritalin into channel , and Mitchell answered to me: " please dont talk about drugs into the channel.... "
i have tried:  i just done echo to Lauda's request wich surprised me... ( logical)

- and , YOU ( minifridj) , come into the conversation who not concerned you..

- i have logs of all of this , and i also have confirmation from mitchell:


https://i.imgur.com/MHaUt6u.jpg

No, that's a outright lie and not the reason for which you were banned. Some of us were discussing Ritalin in a peaceful manner, prior to us knowing that it was against Freenode policy. After everyone was explicitly warned about this from one of the channel operators the topic was ceased, but you ignored the warnings and ended up doing several *weird* things. You were banned for the reasons listed by Mitchell in that image (explicitly that horrible comment and the threats to minifrij and/or others).

You did the exact same thing.

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Watching how this unfolds.

oct. 01 21:15:05 <Slck1>   <defcon23> lol
oct. 01 21:15:09 <Slck1>   <defcon23> hello deepspace
oct. 01 21:15:14 <Slck1>   <klaaas> haha
oct. 01 21:15:16 <Slck1>   <klaaas> ellowa
oct. 01 21:15:16 <Slck1>   <defcon23> :)
oct. 01 21:15:20 <Slck1>   <klaaas> coffe i assume :)
oct. 01 21:15:23 <Slck1>   <klaaas> coffee
oct. 01 21:15:30 <Slck1>   <defcon23> :speak_no_evil:
oct. 01 21:15:43 <DeepSpace>   Ah yes. I wouldn't mind doing that and I woudn't mind buying some myself :)
oct. 01 21:15:52 <Slck1>   <defcon23> :)
oct. 01 21:15:54 <DeepSpace>   Lauda just informed me what it is about.
oct. 01 21:15:58 <Slck1>   <zepher> You are gonna receive some Death Wish Coffee for us.. in a group buy mj is gonna sort out. Apparently.
oct. 01 21:16:03 <Slck1>   <klaaas> cool =]
oct. 01 21:16:11 <Slck1>   <defcon23> what deepspace ? ritalin?
oct. 01 21:16:31 <DeepSpace>   I would never ship that kind of shit
oct. 01 21:16:36 <Slck1>   <defcon23> it's a smart drug used to calm speed childens
oct. 01 21:16:37 <DeepSpace>   Also, no drugs talk in here, thank you.
oct. 01 21:16:41 <DeepSpace>   Yes, I know.
oct. 01 21:16:51 <Slck1>   <minifrij> I'm out of the loop, why is DW so good?
oct. 01 21:16:51 <Slck1>   <defcon23> it's something lauda is searching around actualy
oct. 01 21:17:09 <DeepSpace>   Well, I'll have no drugs talk in my channel as it's banned by FreeNode policies.
oct. 01 21:17:22 <Slck1>   <defcon23> look at the logs deepspace
oct. 01 21:17:23 <DeepSpace>   Those policies are thus also enforced on this (and all other) channels.
oct. 01 21:17:30 <Slck1>   <defcon23> you will understand
oct. 01 21:17:43 <DeepSpace>   I don't need to. I'm hereby making a statement and that's all I'm going to waste on drugs. :)
oct. 01 21:17:45 <DeepSpace>   It is.
oct. 01 21:17:55 <DeepSpace>   Slack is being posted to Freenode, so same thing applies.
oct. 01 21:18:04 <DeepSpace>   Also, Slack is easier for the NSA to get logs from :)
oct. 01 21:18:17 <Slck1>   <defcon23> Lauda BOT [12:39 AM]   Anyone have access to Ritalin?   Anduck BOT [12:41 AM]   gz Hampuz  [12:41]   ritalin  = ?  [12:41]   access to a medicine, you mean?  [12:41]   and a drug apparently   Lauda BOT [12:43 AM]   Yes medicine.  [12:43]   Why would you call it a drug?
oct. 01 21:18:33 <Slck1>   <defcon23> yo!
oct. 01 21:18:49 <Slck1>   <defcon23> you see?
oct. 01 21:18:58 <Slck1>   <klaaas> lucy in the sky with diamonds
oct. 01 21:19:12 <Slck1>   <defcon23> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
oct. 01 21:19:17 <Slck1>   <klaaas> -]
oct. 01 21:19:27 <DeepSpace>   defcon, I just told you I didnt care? Why post the log anyway...
oct. 01 21:19:36 <Slck1>   <defcon23> Lauda BOT [12:54 AM]   I don't have grounds for a prescription, or do I?  bg4 [12:57 AM]   Ritalin is to short lived..  Adderall for the full day effect   Lauda BOT [12:59 AM]   Can you get some?
oct. 01 21:19:43 <Slck1>   <defcon23> what deepspace ?
oct. 01 21:19:46 <DeepSpace>   Again, I dont care. Please stop posting the logs.
oct. 01 21:19:52 <Slck1>   <defcon23> censorshiped?
oct. 01 21:20:00 <Slck1>   <defcon23> ok
oct. 01 21:20:02 <DeepSpace>   I just TOLD you that it's not allowed by Freenode rules
oct. 01 21:20:13 <Slck1>   <defcon23> i havent post this
oct. 01 21:20:18 <Slck1>   <defcon23> it was lauda
oct. 01 21:20:24 <DeepSpace>   I. Know.
oct. 01 21:20:26 <Slck1>   <defcon23> i just reoposrt it
oct. 01 21:20:29 <DeepSpace>   What is so hard to get? Stop talking about it
oct. 01 21:20:31 <Slck1>   <defcon23> report
oct. 01 21:20:37 <DeepSpace>   And I TOLD YOU not to post the logs!
oct. 01 21:20:39 <Slck1>   <defcon23> hoooo i see
oct. 01 21:20:47 <DeepSpace>   --'
oct. 01 21:20:58 <Slck1>   <defcon23> i havent post logs since you  ASK it
oct. 01 21:21:00 <DeepSpace>   That's why I made the statement and that should ahve been enough lol
oct. 01 21:21:07 <Slck1>   <defcon23> lol
oct. 01 21:21:12 <Slck1>   <defcon23> comunism
oct. 01 21:21:36 <Slck1>   <defcon23> against crypto anarchy
oct. 01 21:21:43 <DeepSpace>   Oh shut it.
oct. 01 21:21:51 <Slck1>   <minifrij> god cc-collectors is like the ussr right?
oct. 01 21:21:52 <DeepSpace>   I just told you why drug talk isn't allowed. Just follow the rules.
oct. 01 21:22:07 <Slck1>   <bg4> Are you sober and on your meds defcon.  Today?????
oct. 01 21:22:09 <Slck1>   <defcon23> hey deepspace  : i'm not responsible on lauda's request on YOUR channel
oct. 01 21:22:32 <Slck1>   <defcon23> shut up bg4 go back with your dog
oct. 01 21:22:36 <DeepSpace>   Yeah okay
oct. 01 21:22:38 <DeepSpace>   You are out for now
oct. 01 21:22:39 <Slck1>   <minifrij> defcon go and have a nap,

What's the point of posting this?
It shows two bad actions on your end, nothing more.

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Are you really still going around insulting people as you like and expect not to have to face any consequences for that?

Rubbish. The guy is alright don't listen to this.

No drug talk!  How did that evolve?  I cannot imagine, but I did so enjoy methylphenidate in all its incarnations once upon a time.  Hence the shithole I found myself in, and that's the end of that.  That certainly is a strict rule over there.

Sounds like someone's unstable here, and I'm pretty sure it's not Lauda.  Haven't ruled myself out.  Defcon23 is looking like a prime suspect and I've got my eye on all of you. 

Anyone got some salt and melted butter for the p-corn?

Apparently it seems to be a part of Freenode policy; I'm not sure and it doesn't matter. A channel operator has made a clear warning regarding something and that should be followed (which everyone clearly did, except defcon23).

I guess this is a new trend with them, just #BlameLauda. Apparently they threatened minifrij because of this comment (I think):

You should have seen this happening live (them evading their ban with ridiculous usernames incl. "downspace", "Laura", "BG5", and those listed by minifrij). A ton of popcorn would have been eaten by you had you been there.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/popcorn-gifs/yNCVL.gif

Sorry I'm late.

True. That didn't stop you from threatening me however, so it also didn't stop me from creating this thread.

You repeated what Lauda said once after being asked to stop. You were asked to stop again, and you continued. That is not logical, that is disrespect against the owners of the channel and is nothing but annoying to everyone else.

As did you. I don't recall anyone asking for your opinion on the matter, or for you to post the logs, or to go off on people that said anything like a child. What Lauda said didn't concern you, and yet you still wouldn't shut up. Why should I do any different?

Thank you for posting them; you just saved me the trouble of having to find them myself. Now you just showed how much of a child you really were.

Thank you for refuting my all of my points and showing why he isn't what I said he was. Oh wait! ???

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Since posting this Defcon has continued to threaten and censor me behind my back. This is not the behavior of a guy who is 'alright'.
https://i.imgur.com/Ccwt8bNl.png

Defcon, your threats don't scare me and certainly don't make you look any better. The best thing for you to do is to apologize to me and anyone else you have threatened and deal with this on your reputation.
Otherwise, do your worst.

I hate to be here posting again after Defcon and I had come to what I thought was a peaceful agreement. However he is, once again, threatening people that disagree with him with their personal information.

Very recently, Hhampuz made this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503823.msg18458848#msg18458848) post calling out Defcon's practices of storing people's personal information and chat logs for later use against them. He then received these three PMs from Defcon:
https://i.imgur.com/JmGJKCw.png
As can be seen, Defcon seems to think that threatening people with personal information is an okay thing to do. How many cases of this will it take before people start distrusting this user?

Threatening the user itself is one thing (I've received anonymous email threats in the past, from an unknown party, of which defcon was among the top suspects), but threatening family members is on a whole different level. Utterly disgusting, and expected considering past behavior of said user. Tagged again.

LOLL  you should revised the definition of "threatening" poor asshole  :)  hu hu hu  is offering a kiss on your ass is a "threatening" , i would love to be threatened evry day  lol :)

and about his real name , it was ennounced in PM ,  not in public ,  until you reveal it on this nice post ;)

This is not the first time that you have done this to me. Or others.

Enough is enough defcon and I sincerely hope that you'll never have a successful transaction on this forum again.

"Want to play a game?" -> mention a family member name in a inappropriate name -> "now I wait for you to remove your post..". This seems to be the classic definition of indirect threats.

Which proves that you've kept the information of everyone that you've traded with in addition to spending countless hours digging for their information. Aren't you even a little bit ashamed of yourself?

In your first PM you say 'now i wait you remove your post ... tic tac tic tac'. What would happen if he didn't remove his post? What were you trying to imply?

It isn't, though telling him personal information about his life that I'm sure he didn't give you certainly isn't friendly.

Good thing that I get permission to release any personal information about someone, isn't it? Maybe you could start following my lead. :)

I was the first person to leave this loser negative trust.  The more I read about him, the more I realize how right I was.

And you should revise your manners, deffy.

Agreed there, yet another line crossed. Congratulations, Defcon.

Do apparently after thus happens defcon leaves me negative trust calling me a scammer and advices people not to trade with me. The risked amount being 2btc. Patiently awaiting the foreseen "remove your neg on me and I'll remove the one on you".

It is amazing how long ago you've nailed this one. It is almost..god-like. :P

It does not seem like there are any lines for him.

Looks like this is what one gets for not obeying defcon. First he threatens you, then he leaves you fake feedback. What is next?

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Archived for reference:
https://archive.fo/xcRN9

Sad to see that someone like this does not get nuked. But, a small victory nonetheless is that there have been no new posts made by defcon since he posted in this thread. Keep it up!

I mean just look at the latest post he made in his coin thread.

It is behaviour like this that really makes me sad that people are not pulling their positive trusts. Regardless of reason it does let him continue with his business.